(AOT) A reflection on shock value, morality, and human nature- Video Essay

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  • Опубліковано 28 лип 2023
  • I wanted to preach at you about attack on Titan and the whole point of the show, as well as some dead characters
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    Jadencoremusic / @jadencoremusic
    Also thanks for 1000 subs and a 100k view video, enjoy the ads losers
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  • @loganshalloe5927
    @loganshalloe5927 10 місяців тому +24

    The Jaden-core bg music is perfect

  • @muneebhaider104
    @muneebhaider104 10 місяців тому +89

    Bro really understands AOT more than 99.999% of aot viewers. Great video.

    • @collateral8920
      @collateral8920  10 місяців тому +3

      I appreciate that!

    • @muneebhaider104
      @muneebhaider104 10 місяців тому

      @@collateral8920 Keep up the good work. I am subscribing.

    • @lifeisberserk9566
      @lifeisberserk9566 10 місяців тому +6

      Alot of people understand it it's the ones that say it's overrated or mid that don't have a brain

    • @muneebhaider104
      @muneebhaider104 10 місяців тому +1

      @@lifeisberserk9566 They are totally mentally retarted. I meant that that most of them don't understand the "depth" it goes to

  • @semaj6308
    @semaj6308 10 місяців тому +9

    100% under rated, even though its 2 weeks old, i was surprised when i scrolled down to 7k veiws, i was expecting about a million. +1 sub

  • @sugimoto4734
    @sugimoto4734 10 місяців тому +8

    That typo worked cuz thats the only reason i clicked on the video lol

  • @DieFarbeLila88
    @DieFarbeLila88 10 місяців тому +13

    Damn that snake analogy was good! Loved it! ❤️

  • @icantpursuewhatimtrulypass7335
    @icantpursuewhatimtrulypass7335 10 місяців тому +98

    But maybe the snake doesn’t bite. That’s what I wanted Isayama to explore. To me the greatest scene in season 4 is Willy’s declaration of war and Eren’s attack, precisely because of how its shock value deceived me. I found myself rooting for a mass murderer because I was caught up in the same mentality: “You say you’ll kill me and my people? Fine, I’ll kill you first”. But later I realized that through that sudden attack on Liberio the Eldians lost one last opportunity for a peaceful resolution: because yes the international diplomats who were present, applauded the declaration of war, but what about the rest of the world? They had just been told that the Eldian threat had been a lie, that until Marley’s attack nine years earlier, there were no Eldians scheming to flatten the world, because the power lay in the hands of a pacifist bloodline. If Eren didn’t attack that night, the world- which also distrusted Marley, mind you - might have reacted very differently to Willy’s reveal. They didn’t invade Eldia, after all, why should they go along with Marley’s destructive rhetoric? But Eren’s attack was enough to finally unite the world against Eldia.
    Like the real Armin said: “There must have been another way”

    • @collateral8920
      @collateral8920  10 місяців тому +37

      It all boils down to the fact that Eren wanted the war and he wanted to flatten the outside world. It also leads to very entertaining results!

    • @ZoiusGM
      @ZoiusGM 10 місяців тому +23

      @@collateral8920 Let's not forget that Eren was predetermined to do what he did, adding another layer on the debate of the morality of his actions.

    • @odasengoku7314
      @odasengoku7314 10 місяців тому +10

      Man that is simply not the case did you forget that Willy specifically mentioned how the Tyburs have been improving relationships world wide simply put had Willy been allowed to live he would have contunied to stir the pot and Paradis still would have been razed to the ground by a International Coalition

    • @marinecomponentvandefensie5351
      @marinecomponentvandefensie5351 10 місяців тому +10

      @@odasengoku7314 politicians aren't the only voices in the world

    • @noone-fl3eq
      @noone-fl3eq 10 місяців тому

      @@marinecomponentvandefensie5351 yet look at our world for comparison, all of the wars we have waged, most of them boil down to the deceit and lies told by a few to stir the pot and breed hatred against another group of people
      there were no nukes in Iraq and yet hundreds of thousands of people died for this
      yes they aren't the only voice but hell if their voices don't speak loud

  • @maruseyes1320
    @maruseyes1320 10 місяців тому +8

    yeah except isayama sells whole eren's character for some shock value in 139

  • @stilldamaged3945
    @stilldamaged3945 10 місяців тому +19

    Bit of a shame you didn't cover Zeke's side and his own snake. Personally I see his vision as being the safer path for humanity as a whole, as it completely removes titan's and their warfare capability's. Not to say the plan is a happy or nice one, but it is the one that would leave humanity in a better place as apposed to Erin's plan to wipe everyone who is not on the island out.

    • @collateral8920
      @collateral8920  10 місяців тому +5

      I agree, I’ll definitely go if zeke and his plan at some point on this channel!

  • @lyme1030
    @lyme1030 7 місяців тому +11

    "It allows you to selfreflect on your own capacity for evil."
    Me, nervoisly sweating because i would have gone 100% with Zeke's plan, no hesitation: "let's take 'em balls!"

  • @daddy_1453
    @daddy_1453 9 місяців тому +11

    Eren also did it to ensure his friends will live long and free after him. He said it himself in season 3: “I would give my life in a heartbeat if it meant I could save Historia from a cruel fate”

    • @collateral8920
      @collateral8920  9 місяців тому +1

      This won’t age well

    • @daddy_1453
      @daddy_1453 9 місяців тому +1

      @@collateral8920 Hmm, I'm not an anime only and am aware about "10 years at least" simp Eren and what he did to Carla.
      But If he truly did it for 100% selfish reasons to make his empty world dream a reality... then why did he leave his friends with Titan powers? No titan powers for them means Eren 100% guaranteed wins and its dream come true.
      Why did he go out of his way to antagonise Armin and Mikasa.... but worked perfectly fine with say Zeke and Floch? Why bother waste time talking to Armin in Paths, only to say "Bruh, there will be no negotiation so don't bother"?
      Leaves them with free will. Antagonises them. Forces them to fight him.
      Then when you combine his past statements from S3 and S4 ("I love you guys" to his friends). The pattern seems to be clear.
      This mf recreated the "Helos" legend from the last Titan War. But this time Helos is real and its his Paradis buddies. This allowed Armin to finally have the legitimacy (same as Willy Tybur once had) to negotiate a peace deal with the outside world and Yeagerists which lasted decades. Therby ending the previous deadlock that prevented any talks.

    • @collateral8920
      @collateral8920  9 місяців тому

      If you watch the first video on my channel it goes over my views for why I believe Eren was not doing things for his friends

    • @jakob9323
      @jakob9323 7 місяців тому +2

      Eren outwardly admitted the rumbling wasnt the only way to save his friends

  • @bored_us3r
    @bored_us3r 6 місяців тому +1

    thay quote at the end was crazy, matter of fact the whole video was amazing, you truly understand the whole of AOT👏

  • @crowsva
    @crowsva 10 місяців тому +9

    what a coincidence! i was thinking of starting my own video essays on different anime and video games and stuff! love your video, and the neutral perspective you have! i agree with it all!

  • @daddy_1453
    @daddy_1453 9 місяців тому +3

    “Never underestimate humanities infinite potential for malice”

  • @alanklm
    @alanklm 7 місяців тому

    You are doing really good job talking to and understanding our audience.

  • @Dylbz-ne8st
    @Dylbz-ne8st 10 місяців тому +4

    Woooooo a collateral vid lets go my day is gonna be goood

    • @collateral8920
      @collateral8920  10 місяців тому +2

      That's really good to hear, thanks for watching!

    • @Dylbz-ne8st
      @Dylbz-ne8st 10 місяців тому +1

      @@collateral8920 your very welcome. ❤️

  • @Richchi001
    @Richchi001 9 місяців тому +2

    With this you've earned another sub
    🎉

  • @apurplenova
    @apurplenova 10 місяців тому +4

    this is crazy underrated

  • @rob2540
    @rob2540 10 місяців тому +13

    eren had no choice but to start the rumbling peace with the outside world was impossible as told in the story.

  • @christopherallard1693
    @christopherallard1693 10 місяців тому +10

    Erens motivation never changed, he said he was gonna kill everything outside the walls. In the beginning it was titans, now its everyone else we know. As far as Eren is concerned nothing has changed. Whatever the scapegoat was he wanted it to not exist.

    • @loayzc10
      @loayzc10 10 місяців тому +1

      Uhg that's so shallow an interpretation, why oh why do people believe things like this? Cries*

  • @JohnnyRumpassBuns
    @JohnnyRumpassBuns 2 місяці тому

    I agreed with Eden, the rumbling was nessasary to keep his people safe from the outside world, so they could finally have peace. But then when the rumbling started and I started to see the cost of peace, I changed my mind- by then it was to late- the cost of peace was far to high. And I had to live with myself and at what that decision wrought.

  • @icantpursuewhatimtrulypass7335
    @icantpursuewhatimtrulypass7335 10 місяців тому +8

    If Collateral has 100 000 fans, I’m one of them. If Collateral has 10 fans, I’m one of them. If Collateral has 1 fan, it’s me. If Collateral has no fans, I’m dead.

    • @collateral8920
      @collateral8920  10 місяців тому +2

      Appreciate it!

    • @krookodilegang6192
      @krookodilegang6192 10 місяців тому +4

      If Collateral has 0 fans, You were secretly reiner and somehow survived being erased from existance again

    • @bigboi7817
      @bigboi7817 10 місяців тому

      Bet

  • @lifeisberserk9566
    @lifeisberserk9566 10 місяців тому

    One of my top 5 favorite shows ever

  • @Joshua-vo4dz
    @Joshua-vo4dz 9 місяців тому +2

    Sub earned my friend

  • @OneMinuteMunchies
    @OneMinuteMunchies 7 місяців тому +1

    congrats on 5k!

  • @calebrodriguez6744
    @calebrodriguez6744 10 місяців тому

    Wow. I am really enjoying your analysis videos. Do you happen to have a Discord or a way to DM you? There are a lot of subjects in Attack on Titan I'm interesting in hearing your thoughts on. Either way, great video!

  • @codyd7841
    @codyd7841 10 місяців тому

    was that light of the seven for background music i think it sounded great whatever you where using.

  • @TheFoshaMan
    @TheFoshaMan 7 місяців тому

    8:25 Damn...

  • @bonnieuniverse3883
    @bonnieuniverse3883 9 місяців тому +2

    Bro I agree I think there is deep down a version of us that is selfish🐸

  • @muratbayraktar5035
    @muratbayraktar5035 10 місяців тому

    Bruhh you are gonna be sad when you see the proper ending.

  • @mexicandog5224
    @mexicandog5224 14 днів тому +1

    Why does the snake thing remind me of Adam and Eve….

  • @frankman1998
    @frankman1998 10 місяців тому +6

    I wish youd make more content on other anime as well. I really like one piece for some reason

    • @collateral8920
      @collateral8920  10 місяців тому +3

      I’m still at the start of one piece so it will be a minute before that, but I have plans to talk about other anime for sure!

    • @frankman1998
      @frankman1998 10 місяців тому +1

      @@collateral8920 good to hear haha I'm looking forward to it

  • @DarkBykeTwitch
    @DarkBykeTwitch 10 місяців тому +8

    Blood in AoT isn't shocking or gory. It's realism.

    • @theboyinthedark6521
      @theboyinthedark6521 10 місяців тому

      It’s realism but how isn’t it gory? You got plenty of body parts tore off on this show

    • @theboyinthedark6521
      @theboyinthedark6521 10 місяців тому

      2:24 ketchup according to you

  • @Garytheblastoise
    @Garytheblastoise 7 місяців тому

    No way I was watching aot and twd when I was 12 too wassup twin

  • @daddy_1453
    @daddy_1453 9 місяців тому +2

    Besides Petra, I didn’t like Squad Levi. Purely due to their trust issues with Eren at the start

    • @collateral8920
      @collateral8920  9 місяців тому

      I’m mean at the end of the day they were kind of right not to trust him lol

  • @loayzc10
    @loayzc10 10 місяців тому +1

    I 100% disagree that Eren's actions were unjustifiable, I think they were very much justifiable. TRULY

  • @mcbaws21
    @mcbaws21 9 місяців тому

    imo the 30 year plan or whatever it was called would have almost certainly worked if eren and zeke went along with it. once eren attacked liberio it was all over.

  • @shady2toxic379
    @shady2toxic379 10 місяців тому +4

    It’s not so simple eren doesn’t see it black and white he knows the true horrors of the world he knows that they will never stop killing his ppl so he really has no other choice it’s not about killing the snake it’s about protecting his loved ones

  • @hectorhomero3789
    @hectorhomero3789 10 місяців тому +3

    You want AOE?

  • @loayzc10
    @loayzc10 10 місяців тому +1

    Man there is so much I think you have wrong here, I'm at a loss if I even want to get into it :(
    I've talked about it so much over the years, but I really do think you misunderstand Eren if you think he really he just selfishly wanted everyone dead. How can they think this about you, Eren, my boy 😢

  • @art4anj
    @art4anj 7 місяців тому

    Imo, Eren ACHIEVED HIS GOAL which was to give HIS FRIENDS a chance for a LONG & PEACEFUL life without war because war was coming for them no matter what! This definitely includes Titan-users because they only have a lifespan of 13yrs (eren, armin & even reiner and others)
    Seeing how Eren’s character developed, it’s obvious that he knew the cycle wasn’t gonna stop. He couldn’t care less anymore for the future generations of humanity, the only thing that mattered now was HIS FRIENDS’ FUTURE. As seen in the ending they did live their LIFETIME in old age, including Mikasa 😌

  • @jeffreyhendrix5153
    @jeffreyhendrix5153 Місяць тому

    Yo check out Android 17 at 7:35

  • @Italian_Isaac_Clarke
    @Italian_Isaac_Clarke 8 місяців тому

    Eren is not a monstrous psychopat you Invaderzz enjoyer.
    With all the RetCons implemented since the manga returned from Liberio, the worst ones in 139 (Eren killed him mom just to see some water), a lot of stupid people suddently forgot the rest of the story.

  • @_Circus_Clapped_
    @_Circus_Clapped_ 10 місяців тому +5

    I would end AoT right when S3 P2 ends, anything beyond that is a mess and it was clear Isayama retconned in the last chapters just to reach the mythical 139
    13 years for each shifter, with a total of 9 shifters

    • @_Circus_Clapped_
      @_Circus_Clapped_ 10 місяців тому

      @@theredstarr8965
      sorry, I don't enjoy subpar story endings

    • @theredstarr8965
      @theredstarr8965 10 місяців тому

      @@_Circus_Clapped_ 🫵🏾👉🏾🏕️

  • @NeonParadox_--_
    @NeonParadox_--_ 10 місяців тому

    Don't you know the ending of AOT why eren did what he did, he finished his goal he set from the first episode spoilers ahed!
    He removed all titans powers from the world never to return again all the marley didn't die many of them survived.
    He did the right thing he didn't kill the people for his personal hate against them , he had to he was fully aware what awful thing he is doing but it had to be done so it can never be done again

    • @marinecomponentvandefensie5351
      @marinecomponentvandefensie5351 10 місяців тому

      and yet it happens again

    • @NeonParadox_--_
      @NeonParadox_--_ 10 місяців тому

      @@marinecomponentvandefensie5351 what

    • @collateral8920
      @collateral8920  10 місяців тому +2

      the first video on my channel goes over the ending if you want to know my stance, also did you see the last page, the titans come back lol

    • @marinecomponentvandefensie5351
      @marinecomponentvandefensie5351 10 місяців тому

      @@NeonParadox_--_ what

    • @NeonParadox_--_
      @NeonParadox_--_ 10 місяців тому

      @@collateral8920 wasn't just a big tree on the last page I don't know what you're talking about man