Shoei Neotec 3 helmet review
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- Опубліковано 30 сер 2023
- In this review, we talk through the differences between the new-for-2023, ECE 22.06 approved, Shoei Neotec 3 flip-lid motorcycle helmet with its predecessor, the Shoei Neotec 2 helmet.
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Using Sena again. What a disappointment. Great way to listen to customer feedback Shoei. 👍
Sena is the motorcycle standard as for intercom systems... Why use a different brand?
If this was 10 years ago, then yes.@@chiefpepdesign
I have a Sena SRL2 and it works just fine
What brand did you want to use?
@@chiefpepdesignbecause Sena sucks.
Thanks Chris. Nice review and info as usual. I'm still loving my Neotech 2 and SRL2 Comms so I won't be changing up to the 3 just yet...but it will be my preferred option now for another helmet.
Thanks Chris. Fantastic review as always
Excellent review, thank you Chris. When you take into account the amount of design work, the amount of features, the superb quality and the custom fit options. then this helmet starts to look fantastic value for money.
I’m on my second neotec 2 the first one was a medium and I really needed a large. I really like my lid. Thanks for the review.
Exciting to see Neotec 3 suddenly pop up after almost no news on it. I had to come to the Motolegends review first 😁
A useful review. Very happy with my Neotec 2, but good to know what might be the replacement when I need it. Some nifty small improvements alongside the safety increase.
A 5% cost increase given the recent inflation situation isn’t bad at all.
Well done. Very informative.
As a feedback, I didn't find a good alternative to Shoei quality and confort. I will certainly return to NeoTec III soon.
Fantastic review Chris very interesting and informative . I will have to come down from South Wales to see you and the amazing shop
Thanks for the review of that hemet.
I was anxious to hear about this new strap. I still rock my Neotec (1) from 2015. Bought the Neotec 2 last year but had to return it after 2 or 3 rides because that strap and latch always felt like it was choking me. Might give this one a try before I look for a new modular helmet elsewhere.
Thanks for sharing your expertise Chris. We are currently riding to Austria with our Neotec 2s and, having worn different makes for the past 6 months, we discussed at length just how comparatively quite and comfortable the Shoei lids are, especially on longer rides. My only requirement for the Neotec 3 was that crack visor position and I’ll take any further improvements to noise reduction and comfort I can get. So I’m a little bit unsure where we are on the visor. I’ll have to come in and discuss this with you.
Yes, crack visor position is important! Tell us what you learned afterwards please.
I currently use a Neotec 2 and because I care about my noggin I'll probably buy one of these when it's time to replace the 2, although there's two reasons why I might not...
The two things that are really dissapointing me on first review are: Not consciously addressing the crack position seems unbelievable considering the amount of feedback in this area. From my perspective it's the worst feature of the 2. The other disappointment is the comns system they've chosen, or at least, the lack of options. I'm sure I am not alone in omly needing satnav, radio/ music and calls, so the pricey features of mesh and even top spec branded speakers are wasted. The cost of the mesh sytsem, and lack of compatibility with the Slr2 is enough to make me seriously consider other lids.
Great review as always Motolegends; thanks.
Here's hoping they retain ECE 22.06 compliance for the U.S. version.
Few months back I bought the Schuberth C5 vs the Shoei Neotec 2. Had some issues with face shield closure on the Schuberth and opening the top vet is difficult. Finding the slide for the sunglass shade is difficult to. I decided to but the Shoei Neotech 2 and am so glad I did. Much better quality and ease of use and feels more aerodynamic. If I was to score the Neotec 2 at 9.8 on scale of 10, I would have to score the Schuberth C5 at around 8.
I do need a new flip to replace my old very much loved, but crash tested, Neotec 2:
Safety - My Neo2 performed superbly in a crash so no complaints on the old one. Safer is always better of course.
Soundproofing - Always nice to see improvements although I was very happy with the Neo2. It will be interesting to see/hear how much quieter.
Sun visor - I was happy with the Neo2 so this isn't a big deal for me. Maybe it was only an issue on the larger sizes?
Vents - Extra stages for the vent is always good. But I was very happy with the Neo2 venting (it was better than my GT Air 2).
Chin strap - This does look a big improvement although I did get used to the strap on the Neo2 after a while.
Visor lock - I open and close the visor a lot at traffic lights. So an annoying front opening, where I could hit the vent button could drive me nuts.
Comms - I'm betting this is a very expensive option. It is likely to push the combined cost of a Neo3 and comms out of my range.
Given the last two downsides of the Neo3 (high cost when new comms added and a potentially annoying visor opening) then a Neo2, while there are still a few around, combined with a soon likely to be discounted Sena SRL2 comms may be the way to go. I guess the issue here is the Neo2 was just so good to start with.
So good to see Neotec 3. Still riding an original Neotec much like the one in this video. Comfortable but it taught me I have a oval shaped head not round. Still it fits very nice. Huge vent on the top of helmet not many complaints about air but it definitely adds some noise but the chin vent doesn't let enough air in imo. At the moment favorite helmet is an Arai XD-4, waiting for an XD-5 if thats possible. Watching closely the Neotec 3, not sure how feel about it. Also I prefer a little more graphics on helmet but possibly seems to take awhile with new release helmets.
It would be interesting to find out if the new larger sun visor will retro fit to a NeoTech 2 the visor on which I’ve always thought was too short as you’ve mentioned.
That was very interesting. I’d not considered a flip before, but it’d be great in hot climates. This helmet has it all covered, including comms. Great review as usual. I enjoy your style.
Good timing, was about to buy a Neotec 2 or J Cruise 2. Any perspective on the shell shape for the new series 3 helmets - same as series 2’s or different?
I bought a neorc 2 from Moto legends the other week and got a good deal on it.
Nice review. Is there any news from Shoei regarding a nee Hornet ADV? Trying to decide to go for a leftover current model or wait.
A very welcoming video, can I pop in and try one out for size? I’m an Arai man but have been watching Shoei for some time. Up for making the switch.
Mike
I just purchased one. I went from the RF1200 to Neotec3. It’s a nice helmet. Comfy and quality. If I have a gripe it’s the fact it keeps fogging up on me. I need to keep the visor open a crack. I ride a 2018 BMW R1200RT. I’m stuck with it now. I am annoyed with the fogging issue.
Is the Gloss Grey in your video available at the moment please...many thanks
Thanks Chris, very informative as always. I'll be coming down from Inverness sometime soon for a new flip-lid. If the Neo3 proves to be the best for head shape, when do you think that you'll have the custom pads and comms?
This guy is never Informative. He thinks a pair of Kevlar jeans is as good as kangaroo leather. Donkey
Will I be able to fit my Cardo Packtalk Edge to the 3?
If I lived in the UK I would buy everything from you.
Could you please state the colour of the helmet during the conclusion part at 9:14 seconds please? It looks like a gloss Anthracite? Thanks
I bought my Shoei Neotec 3 and Sena coms from Motolegends a couple or maybe 3 months ago
the fit was good as standard in size large and the Neotec 3 has several small improvements over my Neotec 2
Yesterday I went back for the Fitting service which wasn't available at the time of purchasing
I had to have a thiner scull cap pad which I had to paid for as I had been using the original for a while but would have wanted to keep it as it was no use to anyone else being second hand
In my Neotec 2, I fitted a thicker scull cap as the helmet sat too low over my eyebrows for my liking
The new fit with the extra pads feels quite different from the original fit. It feels like there's is more pressure on my forehead, but it's early days, so will take a bit of time to bed in
I'm not sure about having to pay over £90 to get a better fit but will, see how it goes and if it's worth the extra cost
Hi Chris, nice overview. Thanks! 👍🏻 Now then, Shoei have a strong reputation of BSing it’s customers on how quiet the Neotec 2 is, although many, including myself, on their FB page clearly stated it was hogwash! Hopefully they have addressed this for real this time? Have you had the chance to live test it yet? Love the space grey? option you are demonstrating!
No helmet is quiet, if you ride at above commuting speeds use ear plugs.
@@hiddendragon415 I found the Neotec 2 particular noisy and stopped wearing it for that reason. It was certainly louder than any of my other helmets.
@@markwood9755 Overall the Neotec is rated as one of the quieter helmets but the Schuebeth is also and I found it noisy because it didn't match my head shape. Even a helmet that suits can be noisy when the air for want of better words is thick. Earplugs makes a world of difference. Very cheap re usable rubber ones from Ebay are great.
What other helmets are quiter? I am new and want a quiet helmet
They did not have to make the 'old' com system obsolete though. It is disappointing, not surprising, but disappointing. What it is surprising is that most people don't seem to care. Perhaps I'm in the wrong? Clearly Shoei don't care, they still sell helmets and dedicated com systems by the boat load. I won't be buying them though. Excellent video as usual! Your channel has to be THE best one out there. Cheers, Ray.
Can the new Neotec be adapted to someone with a long oval head?
Hi Chris, does your company facilitate delivery to South Africa Africa
I'm interested in the Neotec 3 with comms
Regards Clive
Is this also asia fit ?
These helmets won't reach the USA until spring I've been told. May have to find me a European seller and see if they'll ship it here.
Seems like a few nifty innovations on top of the Neotec 2 and a higher level of safety for minimal extra price. It is steep at about £600 but what price do you put on having your brain and face protected and comfortable?
If you are concerned about protecting your face do not buy a flip front helmet.
Is it me or is the Neotec 3 smaller than the Neotec 1 on the inside?
I went from Large on the N1 to XL on the N3. So either my head is getting bigger or the new ones run a bit smaller.
What is the name of the color for the glossy Neotec seen from 9:40 onwards? Thanks!
It looks like the anthracite to me.
Could be, but the Anthracite version on the webshop looks almost matte. Definitely not as glossy as in the frame here.@@tnetroP
Anthracite. CP
Schuberth makes a drop down sun visor and integrated coms and flip front
And your point is ? CP
Not throwing shade or insults, just mentioning since you said Shoei was by itself @@Motolegends
so the big ask is: do i buy the Neotec 3 or do i get the Neotec 2 (wich can't be sold in the eu anymore after december 31) at a hugh discount?
Be quick. The Neotec 2 is already sold out in many sizes and colours. CP
Don’t think you’re right on not being able to buy the Neotec 2 after December. 22-06 helmets will be legal to sell for many years yet. As to what you should do, that’s up to you, and your view on value. What may be true, though, is that finding a Neotec 2 will get harder, as many colours and sizes are already sold out. CP.
Very happy owner of a Neotec 2 here, have it for nearly 4 years and wear it every day on my commute and in the holidays on motorcycle trips. Only subjective comment, I also have a GT Air 2 which gets worn much less as the Neotec is my go-to helmet. You have stated several times when reviewing flip-up helmets that they're quieter than full-face helmets. I find my GT Air 2 quieter than the Neotec. Don't you think that the fact that the helmets has to "slices" that have to fit into each other entails more wind noise? Kind regards
Why did they stopped making solid yellow color Neotec helmets?
Hi-viz is kind of out of fashion these days, even with the IAM! CP
@@Motolegends I guess its because with HiViz you hardly get crashed so they can't prove their point of better impact protection LOL.
IMHO there should always be at least the HiViz option.
I have a Schuberth C3 Pro and a Shoei NEOTEC II both with their respective integrated Comms systems. I was surprised to hear you say hear Shoei are the best. I suppose it comes down to head shape and other preferences but, though older, Schuberth is the better helmet in a number of ways. It's quieter; it's easier for me to use with glasses; It's easier to operate the sun visor; it's easier to open the visor (I note this is changed for the NEOTEC III); it's easier to remove both visors; like the NEOTEC II it has an integrated Comms system which in some ways is better and also worse than the Sena SRL_Mesh; few, if any, critters get in via the top air vent (I had to retro-fit a fine mesh on my NEOTEC II to stop this). The list goes on...
I haven't tried the Schuberth C5 yet but will be buying on soon as, for me, the Schuberth is a better "lid".
We can make much more of a difference with the liners in the Shoei than we can with the Schuberth. The C5 only comes in two shell sizes, which is not what you’d expect of a premium brand, the main issue being the huge gulf between the L and XL sizes. Having fitted hundreds of both on customers, the Shoei is still the better-made and designed helmet. Some will prefer the Schuberth, but overall the Shoei is the more complete package, in our view. CP
@@Motolegends having travelled over 100,000 miles wearing Schuberth C3 Pro helmets I think we will have to agree to differ.
Looks good but the lack of weight reduction compared to the competition is poor. It's a heavy helmet. I think a few people will be disappointed by that. On another note, I'm curious why Motolegends completely ignores HJC helmets?
We are quite selective about the helmets we offer. I am sure HJC make some nice lids, but as they don’t offer a facility to fit different liners and cheekpads. This is an off-the-shelf brand that we can add nothing to, so you might as well go to one of the chains. Not sure the comments about weight make much sense. A good-quality flip, pre-wired for comms., and with things like a drop-down sun visor is never going to be the lightest helmet, but it would be nigh on impossible to go to 22-06 from 22-05, and save weight! As it is, Shoei has done an amazing job to keep the new model pretty much the same as the old one. CP
@@Motolegends Carbon fiber? My Sportmodular is 1300 gramms so something in between that record low weight and the heavy 1700 gramms of the Neo3 should be possible and aimed for. Maybe they are working on it already...
Schuberth C5 vs Shoei?
2:13 Talks about flipfront and flips the finger 😅
I have upgraded from Neotec 1 to 3. N3 is much much more quiet than N1. Unfortunately that is the only positive aspect I found. The redesigned front chin vent on N3 is much worse than the one on N1 and blows almost no air inside the helmet. The first locked position of visor on N3 is much higher than on N1. So in attempt to compensate for ineffective front chin vent when you open the visor you get too much air. N1 was far superior with that respect. So although N3 is very quiet in comparison to N1 , I am not really satisfied with N3 ….
I had a Neotec 2 which had an internal seam that ran right across my forehead. After 30 mins of riding it started to be a real problem and not long after was so painful I had to stop and take the helmet off. Needless to say I sold it and would never buy a Shoei helmet again.
I am waiting for a reduction of weight (e.g.AGV Sportmodular: 1295 gramms) and maybe a decent crack open visor.
Shoei, please listen!
The only problem I have with my Neotec 2 is the weight.... I would pay extra for a lighter weight Modular flip up... I had an AGV Carbon fiber flip up but except for the super light weight it was a cheaply made and uncomfortable for me helmet....
I have no problem with the weight of my neotec 2. It barely weighs more than others
@@alrightdave6135 The AGV Carbon lid comes with 1295 gramms. Its quite a difference and I feel it very much after s day of riding.
So it's been clearly prooven - by tests - that the 2 is less safe than the new 3 ❓ Did anyone run the 2 through the new tests ? What if the 2 is even better from the safety aspect, and it's rated 22.05 only, because it hasn't been tested for 22.06 ? 🤔🤔
ECE 22-06 places so many new demands on a helmet that one can be sure that the Neotec 3 will be more protective than the Neotec 2. Now Shoei always tests to higher than the statutory standard, and that applies equally to 22-06. So yes, the new helmet is more protective. I can’t quite understand where this question is coming from, and why anyone would challenge this assertion. And as there are tests under 22-06 that weren’t even a consideration under 22-05, then yes the new helmet will be a safer one. Perhaps not on every dimension, but overall certainly so. CP
Well, I personally acknowledge this to be a pertinent question. Would be nice to know, even it doesn’t make much sense.
Please take my money
Sounds like a bit of a sales pitch for me
I just wish that helmet manufacturers stop having integrated comms, no I’m not interested in your rebranded Sena stuff, cardo is better and I wanna keep using the stuff I already own. Designing the helmet to fit their stuff makes it harder for us to easily install our own.
Not sure this is better than the considerably cheaper Caberg Levo.
That’s a bit like saying a Fiat is better than a Ferrari. There is simply no comparison. The Caberg is an okay budget lid. The Shoei is the best helmet on the market. Cp
@@Motolegendsah but a Ferrari is faster, more comfortable and aerodynamic than a Fiat...a Shoei functionally performs no better than a Levo, including in safety tests. So what is the point in paying more?!
@@jptwaite7899 exactly, it's all marketing, like buying stuff with the 'Goretex' label, no better than other products now but it has the name people have been brainwashed to think is worth paying 50% more for.
Not good they have change the coms so I can't use what I already have
Shoei quality is getting bad. My drop down visor broke after 4 years. I just bought the Neotec 2 and hate having an intercom in it because I don't own a phone and have no use for it. Weight is getting bad too... 4lbs for an XL Neotec.
I own a Neotec 2 and have tens of thousands of miles on it but will never own another Shoei or recommend them for one reason: the moronically complex visor connection system. I can change an Arai or Schuberth in 15 seconds. I average five minutes on a Shoei. This is so bad there are times I've convinced it was done as a practical joke on customers.
Don’t know about moronic. I’m not the sharpest tool, and I can take one off and put it back inside 15 seconds. Happy to do a video to demonstrate. CC
I've watched every video I could find and they didn't help. It's particularly bad with tinted visors where you can't see through it. I could understand if there was some advantage to counterbalance the complexity of the system, but there's not. @@Motolegends
@@DrSKMetzhow often do you change visor ffs?
I like to take them off once a week during peak bug system to clean with Plexis. And I have a mirrored vistor for my Shoei that I only use on bright days. But that's really not the point--it wouldn't make sense for a company to decide to make a horribly complex system since people don't need to change them that often anyway. But like I said, the visor connection mechanism will keep me from considering the Neotec 3.@@alrightdave6135
In response to @DrSKMetz, please see the video in this link - www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/m5z3tc4vk2w6vs60i8uu2/IMG_8343.MOV?rlkey=5i03t4ofx3lnugnhewtx7257o&dl=0
Show us the helmet instead of talking about the features
Shoei "Showay" not "Shooee"
Well, when the design team from Japan came to see us a couple of years ago, that’s not how they pronounced it! CP
@Motolegends Well then, they pronounced it in a way that made you guys comfortable. They're good at that. For some context, I live in Japan. Some UA-camrs at least get the first syllable right.
@@ernieschatz3783 Not sure that your point is even an interesting one. I’m not attempting to sound like I’m from Japan, in the same way that when I talk of the french capital I don’t drop the ‘s’. That just sounds a bit pretentious, in my view. Everyone over here, including the importer, seems to pronounce the brand name the same as I do. CP
I made a statement for whoever's benefit. By your reaction, not for yours. Here is another nugget: My wife laughed at me the first time she heard me say "Mazda." Don't we all say Mazda? Welp, in Japan, it's "Matsuda." There is no consonant Z in their language. Feel free to wonder what my point is, or go through whatever thought process you like.@@Motolegends
'Spent the last 5 years developing the Neotec 3'🤩🤩 this guy talks sh1te for a living.
Also name drops Arai here😜 Arai won't even make a helmet with an internal sunvisor never mind make a flip front helmet they are so concerned with safety,
these flip fronts are just about safe for people who ride scooters round town.
Everything's fine, but drop the habit of picking up boogers out of your 👃🏻while makin a video
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Better out than in, and i didn’t have time for another take! CP.
Disappointed with review ..
Why did you not show the extent of “flap up” utility?
Is it easy/ practical to ride with front up ?
This is not a review of how you can use a flip lid. It is purely a comparison of the 3 against the 2, which was made very explicit at the beginning. CP
Absolute crap lid don’t bother waste your money it’s the noisiest lid I’ve ever had and the vents are terrible
So Shoei want us to place our hand in front of our eyes to flip up the clear visor? Pure marketing. We have always had a left sided tab to gently lift or lower the visor. This is nonsense. My Neotech II is absolutely utterly silent, cool to wear and fits perfectly. I can perceive no rambunctious air noise disturbing my journey as my Neotech II also fits absolutely snug. Obviously Shoei need to move product however the Neotech II was more than enough to ensure our 2022 lids are actually superior to any other flip lid and better than 90% of the one piece full face junk on the market. This guy is just selling helmets. Nothing more.
Not a very nice comment at the end mate... Motolegends are a great company to deal with and ofcourse they want to sell stuff but they'll help anyone make the best choice for their own requirements and budget.
I am an extremely happy customer of Motolegends. Yes of course they want to sell product, otherwise they would go out of business. But from my dealings with them face to face, including Chris, I really do believe they want to give good service. When I went in to buy a Neotec 2 they suggested trying cheaper products which seemed to meet my needs, before we came back around to the Neotec which I did buy. Almost a year later they changed the pads in it for free because I wasn't quite happy.
I once spent about an hour with one of their sales ladies trying to find the right jacket for my very petite daughter before agreeing none were right for her. They could have just sold us the nearest fitting jacket to get a sale but they didn't.
They also try to work with manufacturers to make suggestions on how to improve products.
They are a great company that does try to focus on customer service, which is a rare thing nowadays. It is a real shame that they no longer open at weekends though.
Always interesting to hear the views of somebody who bases his opinions on a sample of one. You may find your Neotec quiet, but as you can read from some of the comments here not everybody does. I also find it bizarre that anybody should be dismissive of a company’s attempt to improve the quality of its products. Do you really think it’s impossible to make this helmet quieter? And what makes you think that you are the definitive arbiter on whether a helmet is quiet enough? As far as the locking mechanism is concerned, one in the centre is better than one the side for the reasons I outlined. And having used the same mechanism on the NXR, there’s no need to put your hand in front of the visor. The button is below it. The other issue with a left-hand lift mechanism is that if you’re in town using the clutch, you can’t open the visor so readily. A centre lift means that you can choose either hand. Overall, I am left with the view that you have absolutely nothing insightful or even interesting to contribute to the matter. It’s as though you think the the world should come to a standstill because you are happy with your Neotec 2. It is oft cited that opinions are sometimes better held than expressed, and given the unsubstantiated nature of yours, I feel this might be wise counsel for you. As for your rudeness, it adds little; and again paints you as someone prepared to express unsolicited views based on little more than a vanity, tinged with a dose of unpleasantness. CP
If companies like Shoei didn't continually improve their products we'd be stuck with a cork, piss pot helmet, also this upgrade has been partly forced by the new regulations. I've been buying Shoei's for decades, each time the new helmet is n improvement from the previous model, quieter, lighter, better ventilation and generally nicer to wear. Do you think they should stop now you've got a Neotec 2?
Why not? It's superb.@@medler2110
This guy thinks Kevlar jeans are better than leather. He's lost his mind.
Can’t stand kevlar jeans. But can substantiate with test results that a modern jean made with a high-tech UHMWPE fibre can be way more abrasion resistant than leather. Put simply, the arse of a cow hasn’t changed in 500 years. Is it too difficult to accept that in a world where we travel around the universe, and build bridges a mile long, that we have not created something stronger than the arse of a cow? You really need to get out more! CP.
@@Motolegends Got his ticket. What Kevlar jeans do you recommend? Prospective new rider here.