I've used a Neo tech II for years, and I find very little to no noise, of course im riding a Goldwing. The comfort for me gets (5) 🌟 the fit gets (5) star 🌟 the ventilation gets (4) star 🌟 overall it's the best helmet I've owned in 49 years of riding
Used the Neotech ll for 5 years, very nice helmet. Upgraded to the lll & the wind noise is much louder. Ear plugs are essential. The first lll I picked up had an issue with the visor not latching and the chin bar wouldn't stay locked. It was also loud. The replacement is no quieter. I'm disappointed with wind noise considering the reviews were suggesting that the lll was quiet.
I had been using Shoei for over a decade and loved them but when they tried lock me into a comm system of their preference instead of the Cardo units I decided to switch. I had hoped that they would eventually return to making helmets that were comm system neutral but it doesn't look like that is happening. Luckily, there are other great helmets out there that are comm system neutral and ECE 22.06 rated.
That’s a common beef I’m noticing in comments. The sena not as good then? I’ve just added a fodsports fx6 to an ageing AGV lid. Need plugs and volume won’t drown the wind above 67mph on a tiger 1200 with big screen. Looking to upgrade lid with new coms and have a flip front. Both neotech and Schubert both run the sena integrated coms. Any pointers appreciated..
I had the Sena SRL2 for 5 years with no issues. But when it came time to replace it, I was not going to spend $300 for old technology. I bought the Cardo Packtalk Edge for $312 (magnet unit) and absolutely love all the voice commands. Yes, it has to be mounted further back, but it's hands-free. 👍 👍
I completed a 4600km trip with the Neotec 3. Overall, it was a solid helmet. However, it is awful for wind noise when compared to my Arai RX7-V Evo - I wear airplugs with both helmets.
I own a Neotec 2,and just placed a PO with ForteMoto for a Neotec 3. 2 main reasons, the ability to crack open the visor a bit to let air in (it's hot over here in the middle east) and the 0.5 extra depth of the visor, it is sunny over here too!
I noticed that comparing 2 and 3 too! Does the cracked open position hold near the top of the cracked position or closes itself at speed on your neotec 3?
@@FortaMoto To improve an already great helmet it is necessary to take up every little thing you can find to do so. And in my opinion - just relying on your fabulous review with a good eye on details and some others here on YT - it seems to me that Shoei may has achieved that. The whistling noise from the small winglets (gone) for example and the 2-step front air inlet now at ne Neotech 3 are some of these. You mentioned the wide field of view of the PinLock visor. Is that a larger version of the one in the Neotec 2? The one at the NT2 as its mounting points quite a bit more in the field of view compared e.g. to the AGV.
@@TecTurtle3 Thank you for your kind words on our review, they are much appreciated. As mentioned in the video, we are not speaking of a revolutionary new design. We are, however, speaking of very welcome updates and of course the new ECE 22.06 certification. Not everybody buying a Neotec 3 will have owned a Neotec 1 or 2 - that’s why this is more of a specs overview and review than a comparison video. The wide field of view is the same as on the Neotec 2, but it is still a big plus compared to many other helmets - and thus is worth mentioning.
I dont know, if i should go for the neotec 2 or 3 ... the two has some issues for sure... but still a good helmet and probably gonna be on Sale now... maybe the 3 is "updatet" there are no longtime reviews jet so it comes maybe with other problems...anyway .. i will try the 3 and then i will see which one is better for me
Ventilation is so poor when closed. The chin vent has low air flow, maybe its because of the insect mesh. The top vent has whistling sound and you have to close it when riding faster and it's so annoying and noisy . I'm have Shoei GT Air 1 as well and ventilation is superior in comparison to Neotec 3
So Shoei ADDED the winglet things just below the chin bar release on the Neotec 2, and now has decided to eliminate them. Guess that falls under the category of a failed experiment. It doesn't look as though there is a great deal of difference between the 2 and the 3. A more recessed lever for the sun visor, a central lip for the visor, a longer sun visor, an improved chin strap and two vent positions in the chin bar. And elimination of the winglets. No real reason to upgrade yet.
I’m wondering where you tried the helmet during daytime over 100km/h in the Netherlands 😂😉 This said I had a sportmodular: disappointing quality compared to Arai, Shoei and Schuberth. I bought an E1 whilst the AGV was back to the factory because of a rusted visor screw on the shield. Yep no joke. Took them 3 months to change a screw. The E1 only complain was about fogging other than that very comfy. I just ordered a Neotech 3. In the end there’s an international consensus that the II was the best modular and the new Schuberth C5 seems to have some defects making my choice obvious. Just to be clear I would have loved a HJC or a LS2 (seems a bang for the bucks). Unfortunately both brands just don’t suit my head shape. As for the noise no helmet is quiet to the point you don’t need earplugs. And as a bonus if you listen to music like me the sound is much better with plugs as you don’t hear the wind. Finally for the trac I have an Arai. Thanks for your reviews 😊
Thank you for your kind words and your personal experience. Always interesting to read! When testing helmets, we never exceed 100 km/h... we're law abiding citizens! Anybody who says different is lying, including the speedometer.
Looks nice ! 😀👍🏻👍🏻 And as a public health adviser, I can recomend to stuff in some absorbant tissue paper ( of hand drying type - that doesn't loose much pulp ) after the ride. It will prevent moisture to do its' thing. The lining stays "fresh" much longer, without gathering bad smells. The paper can then be used for cleaning the bike.... ☝🧐
This is just a simple REV'IT! neck collar/tube. I wear it mainly to keep flies out of my mouth when riding with the chin-bar up. Any simple neck tube or balaclava will set you on your way, though.
You could have measured the chin guard depth it looks a lot deeper than my n2 also the eye port looks smaller ? and I have read comments where if you put that pin lock in (i prefer snake oil ) you can see both ends as your ride ? Re vents I never get any air on chin vent and a tiny bit on top vent. I have had 4 N2 all the same Great helmets but a long way to go.... I was hoping far better venting, and bigger eye port and possibly a lighter e.g. carbon option.I have a question will the new sena 3 headset pair up with th new Go Pro Hero 12 now thats what I want. Good review though stay safe.
Almost! I said there should be an adapter coming out that allows you to mount the SRL1/2 systems. That's the information we were given by Shoei. However, it has not yet surfaced...
Neotec 2 had a poor hinge system with a 30% failure rate as Sharp tested. This is much better at a 7% fail rate. The other key difference in the new ECE rating system is angular strike safety : IE - you hit the ground while moving and how does the helmet react in protecting you head from rotating forces. That's why you're seeing rounder helmets and more side protection. The 2 was also mediocre in this area. Nolan outperformed it in every metric. The 3 seems to be a major safety upgrade. Kind of wish the hinge was 100% failure proof.
I will be most upset if my SRL, which is a great comms system, can’t be fitted to the helmet. I’m a bit miffed that Shoei changed the fitting for the SRL3. So the adaptor is a must otherwise the change will just be seen as a ripoff by those that have the current SRL
I have been a Neotec 2 user and have been very happy with it. The rip-off pricing of this new Neotec 3 ensures that I will never own one. At some point you have to say "enough is enough".
The Neotec 2 is a great helmet and doesn't necessarily need replacing or upgrading if it's still fairly fresh. However, considering the price rise in almost every industry worldwide, the helmet doesn't cost that much more compared to its predecessor. When the time is right for a fresh lid, I'm sure there will be a good deal knocking about for a no. 3.
My GT-Air (yea, an original version) is over due for a retirement. Looks like the Neotec 3 won't be in the States until spring. Legality aside, If you are looking at 5-6 years of use, did you find the new 3 superior enough to pick one up when I'm in Europe, or just get the 2? I'm not worried about safety or having a cop bother me about the DOT sticker. I'm more concerned with getting the 2 this fall and realizing that the 3 would have been a far better choice. The only thing I had an issue with the GT-Air was a minor comfort thing. There was a liner seam high on my forehead that caused discomfort after over an hour of use. The solution was to press it into the EPS foam a little bit so that it wasn't as noticeable. That did the trick. Does the Neotec have a similar shape? And from what I could see, that seam seems to be no longer there. Can you confirm?
Got a Neotec I and tried the 3 in the store. To my suprise I did not like it. The fit just didn't feel right, where I do really liked the fit of the Neotec I. Weird 😮
This helmet with a peak would be my ideal helmet. Apart from Schuberth and Scorpion no helmet has a flip up chin, integrated sun shield and a peak. I own the Scorpion one which is fine but pretty loud and made from thermoplastic, Schuberth is better but apparently gets pretty hot and the visibility seems worse from earlier models. But, both this helmet and the Schuberth seems less interesting when hearing about the built is comms pockets, I rather see they make a helmet and then let me add my own better comms from Cardo than buying a rebranded Sena just because Sena spends their entire time selling custom systems to helmet manufacturers instead making new and better products.
These new EC ratings are making manufacters add weight to pass. It seems like all the Helmets that have new models coming out are heavier than the previous generation unfortunately.
I love NOT all these helmet videos showing models not in the website of some makers and for sure not on resellers , then theres NO XXXL helmets. Japanese engineers think ALL humans are 5 feet tall and have little heads on top and below.
I was really dissapointed with my Neotec 2. The pinlock never worked good. I buy new vizors and pinlocks but they never worked. I think I had one of the first Neotec2. Making a lot of noise and fogging up all the time. Had to replace the Sena four times. Everytime it breaks. Don't buy this helmet...!
I've used a Neo tech II for years, and I find very little to no noise, of course im riding a Goldwing. The comfort for me gets (5) 🌟 the fit gets (5) star 🌟 the ventilation gets (4) star 🌟 overall it's the best helmet I've owned in 49 years of riding
Used the Neotech ll for 5 years, very nice helmet. Upgraded to the lll & the wind noise is much louder. Ear plugs are essential. The first lll I picked up had an issue with the visor not latching and the chin bar wouldn't stay locked. It was also loud. The replacement is no quieter. I'm disappointed with wind noise considering the reviews were suggesting that the lll was quiet.
He's back ! ❤️ Great, also a Neotec2 rider during the past years, will try this soon
Thanks for sharing. Glad to know they have improved the inner visor.
I had been using Shoei for over a decade and loved them but when they tried lock me into a comm system of their preference instead of the Cardo units I decided to switch. I had hoped that they would eventually return to making helmets that were comm system neutral but it doesn't look like that is happening. Luckily, there are other great helmets out there that are comm system neutral and ECE 22.06 rated.
That’s a common beef I’m noticing in comments. The sena not as good then? I’ve just added a fodsports fx6 to an ageing AGV lid. Need plugs and volume won’t drown the wind above 67mph on a tiger 1200 with big screen. Looking to upgrade lid with new coms and have a flip front. Both neotech and Schubert both run the sena integrated coms. Any pointers appreciated..
I had the Sena SRL2 for 5 years with no issues. But when it came time to replace it, I was not going to spend $300 for old technology. I bought the Cardo Packtalk Edge for $312 (magnet unit) and absolutely love all the voice commands. Yes, it has to be mounted further back, but it's hands-free. 👍 👍
Always enjoy your honest reviews! Good idea for a rider to give his or her point of view on any gear ! Thank you
You're very welcome! Stay tuned for even more of this.
I completed a 4600km trip with the Neotec 3. Overall, it was a solid helmet. However, it is awful for wind noise when compared to my Arai RX7-V Evo - I wear airplugs with both helmets.
I own a Neotec 2,and just placed a PO with ForteMoto for a Neotec 3. 2 main reasons, the ability to crack open the visor a bit to let air in (it's hot over here in the middle east) and the 0.5 extra depth of the visor, it is sunny over here too!
I noticed that comparing 2 and 3 too! Does the cracked open position hold near the top of the cracked position or closes itself at speed on your neotec 3?
The apple phone of helmet design .. very much the same as my Neotec 2 .. still waiting for my Jarvis Ai .. no I’m not kidding .
Basically it's just a slightly better helmet than the neotec 2 so just get the neotec 2 when it's on sale
That's one way of putting it. To be better than the Neotec 2 is quite an achievement, though - even if it is only "slightly".
@@FortaMoto To improve an already great helmet it is necessary to take up every little thing you can find to do so. And in my opinion - just relying on your fabulous review with a good eye on details and some others here on YT - it seems to me that Shoei may has achieved that.
The whistling noise from the small winglets (gone) for example and the 2-step front air inlet now at ne Neotech 3 are some of these.
You mentioned the wide field of view of the PinLock visor. Is that a larger version of the one in the Neotec 2? The one at the NT2 as its mounting points quite a bit more in the field of view compared e.g. to the AGV.
@@TecTurtle3 Thank you for your kind words on our review, they are much appreciated. As mentioned in the video, we are not speaking of a revolutionary new design. We are, however, speaking of very welcome updates and of course the new ECE 22.06 certification. Not everybody buying a Neotec 3 will have owned a Neotec 1 or 2 - that’s why this is more of a specs overview and review than a comparison video. The wide field of view is the same as on the Neotec 2, but it is still a big plus compared to many other helmets - and thus is worth mentioning.
I am a small so this would be bobblehead on me with a medium shell. Shame on the three shell sizes.
I dont know, if i should go for the neotec 2 or 3 ... the two has some issues for sure... but still a good helmet and probably gonna be on Sale now...
maybe the 3 is "updatet" there are no longtime reviews jet so it comes maybe with other problems...anyway .. i will try the 3 and then i will see which one is better for me
Can you get the new sun visor (larger) replacement and will it fit the Neotech 2? 👍
Ventilation is so poor when closed. The chin vent has low air flow, maybe its because of the insect mesh. The top vent has whistling sound and you have to close it when riding faster and it's so annoying and noisy . I'm have Shoei GT Air 1 as well and ventilation is superior in comparison to Neotec 3
So Shoei ADDED the winglet things just below the chin bar release on the Neotec 2, and now has decided to eliminate them. Guess that falls under the category of a failed experiment. It doesn't look as though there is a great deal of difference between the 2 and the 3. A more recessed lever for the sun visor, a central lip for the visor, a longer sun visor, an improved chin strap and two vent positions in the chin bar. And elimination of the winglets. No real reason to upgrade yet.
This video says you can switch the chin strap... Are there instructions on how to do that?
I’m wondering where you tried the helmet during daytime over 100km/h in the Netherlands 😂😉
This said I had a sportmodular: disappointing quality compared to Arai, Shoei and Schuberth. I bought an E1 whilst the AGV was back to the factory because of a rusted visor screw on the shield. Yep no joke. Took them 3 months to change a screw.
The E1 only complain was about fogging other than that very comfy.
I just ordered a Neotech 3. In the end there’s an international consensus that the II was the best modular and the new Schuberth C5 seems to have some defects making my choice obvious.
Just to be clear I would have loved a HJC or a LS2 (seems a bang for the bucks). Unfortunately both brands just don’t suit my head shape.
As for the noise no helmet is quiet to the point you don’t need earplugs. And as a bonus if you listen to music like me the sound is much better with plugs as you don’t hear the wind.
Finally for the trac I have an Arai.
Thanks for your reviews 😊
Thank you for your kind words and your personal experience. Always interesting to read! When testing helmets, we never exceed 100 km/h... we're law abiding citizens! Anybody who says different is lying, including the speedometer.
@@FortaMoto 🤣
Looks nice ! 😀👍🏻👍🏻 And as a public health adviser, I can recomend to stuff in some absorbant tissue paper ( of hand drying type - that doesn't loose much pulp ) after the ride. It will prevent moisture to do its' thing. The lining stays "fresh" much longer, without gathering bad smells.
The paper can then be used for cleaning the bike.... ☝🧐
Sound advice from this proper geezer!
@@FortaMotoThat escalated quickly.
Great news! can you advise what ear plugs you find the best?
What balaclava are you wearing or do you recommend with a modular?
This is just a simple REV'IT! neck collar/tube. I wear it mainly to keep flies out of my mouth when riding with the chin-bar up. Any simple neck tube or balaclava will set you on your way, though.
You could have measured the chin guard depth it looks a lot deeper than my n2 also the eye port looks smaller ? and I have read comments where if you put that pin lock in (i prefer snake oil ) you can see both ends as your ride ? Re vents I never get any air on chin vent and a tiny bit on top vent. I have had 4 N2 all the same Great helmets but a long way to go.... I was hoping far better venting, and bigger eye port and possibly a lighter e.g. carbon option.I have a question will the new sena 3 headset pair up with th new Go Pro Hero 12 now thats what I want. Good review though stay safe.
NEED TO SHOW UP ABOUT HOW TO OPERATE THE VENTS FRONT AND TOP
Shown at 2:22.
The helmet allows the inside to be removed for washing?
Perhaps I misunderstood but did you say the SRL2 will fit the Neotec 3?
Almost! I said there should be an adapter coming out that allows you to mount the SRL1/2 systems. That's the information we were given by Shoei. However, it has not yet surfaced...
Enjoyed your video. Can the visor be cracked open in stages? Thanks
Cheers! Yes, it can :).
I purchased the 1st neotec helmet and they improved it the following year ?????
Neotec 2 had a poor hinge system with a 30% failure rate as Sharp tested. This is much better at a 7% fail rate. The other key difference in the new ECE rating system is angular strike safety : IE - you hit the ground while moving and how does the helmet react in protecting you head from rotating forces. That's why you're seeing rounder helmets and more side protection. The 2 was also mediocre in this area. Nolan outperformed it in every metric. The 3 seems to be a major safety upgrade. Kind of wish the hinge was 100% failure proof.
I will be most upset if my SRL, which is a great comms system, can’t be fitted to the helmet. I’m a bit miffed that Shoei changed the fitting for the SRL3. So the adaptor is a must otherwise the change will just be seen as a ripoff by those that have the current SRL
I have been a Neotec 2 user and have been very happy with it. The rip-off pricing of this new Neotec 3 ensures that I will never own one. At some point you have to say "enough is enough".
The Neotec 2 is a great helmet and doesn't necessarily need replacing or upgrading if it's still fairly fresh. However, considering the price rise in almost every industry worldwide, the helmet doesn't cost that much more compared to its predecessor. When the time is right for a fresh lid, I'm sure there will be a good deal knocking about for a no. 3.
Thank you for the video... great info ❤❤❤❤
I can't wait for its US release date
Well, it's finally there! Albeit quite a bit more expensive than here in Europe.
My GT-Air (yea, an original version) is over due for a retirement. Looks like the Neotec 3 won't be in the States until spring. Legality aside, If you are looking at 5-6 years of use, did you find the new 3 superior enough to pick one up when I'm in Europe, or just get the 2? I'm not worried about safety or having a cop bother me about the DOT sticker. I'm more concerned with getting the 2 this fall and realizing that the 3 would have been a far better choice.
The only thing I had an issue with the GT-Air was a minor comfort thing. There was a liner seam high on my forehead that caused discomfort after over an hour of use. The solution was to press it into the EPS foam a little bit so that it wasn't as noticeable. That did the trick.
Does the Neotec have a similar shape? And from what I could see, that seam seems to be no longer there. Can you confirm?
I’ve been looking online to purchase one of these but I can’t find the three. Does anybody know where they’re being sold?
As mentioned in this video: we sell them. Head over to www.fortamoto.com to find them.
Got a Neotec I and tried the 3 in the store. To my suprise I did not like it. The fit just didn't feel right, where I do really liked the fit of the Neotec I.
Weird 😮
Have you tried the different paddings? I use others than the standard thickness and that is changing the fit noticeably to the better.
WHYYYY, why are they using a Sena system..... just leave it blank so we can attach anything.
You can still do that. Why wouldn't you be able to?
@@FortaMoto you can. But it gets pushed further back of the helmet
And generally requires that you use the stick-on attachment rather than the more secure clipon.
Does the chin strap sit further forward then the Neotec 2 ?
The difference in position is not very noticeable. The strap is definitely much slimmer, though.
What kind of scarf are you you using to cover your mouth?
A windcollar!
@@FortaMoto I meant make and model
Hi id like to ask if you ship to philippines?
Sure, no problem!
This helmet with a peak would be my ideal helmet. Apart from Schuberth and Scorpion no helmet has a flip up chin, integrated sun shield and a peak. I own the Scorpion one which is fine but pretty loud and made from thermoplastic, Schuberth is better but apparently gets pretty hot and the visibility seems worse from earlier models.
But, both this helmet and the Schuberth seems less interesting when hearing about the built is comms pockets, I rather see they make a helmet and then let me add my own better comms from Cardo than buying a rebranded Sena just because Sena spends their entire time selling custom systems to helmet manufacturers instead making new and better products.
When perfection can’t be topped, you create a helmet with a different number but no better than the one before- hence the Neotec 3.
These new EC ratings are making manufacters add weight to pass. It seems like all the Helmets that have new models coming out are heavier than the previous generation unfortunately.
That does seem to be the case with some new lids. Except this one! It's a little bit lighter than my Neotec II was.
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You didn't say anything about peripheral vision.
That's true! It's good, though. Decent enough to see all you need to see.
I love NOT all these helmet videos showing models not in the website of some makers and for sure not on resellers , then theres NO XXXL helmets. Japanese engineers think ALL humans are 5 feet tall and have little heads on top and below.
I was really dissapointed with my Neotec 2. The pinlock never worked good. I buy new vizors and pinlocks but they never worked. I think I had one of the first Neotec2. Making a lot of noise and fogging up all the time. Had to replace the Sena four times. Everytime it breaks. Don't buy this helmet...!
Um you can adjust the Pinlock if it's fogging. Iv'e owned a number of GT Airs and Neotecs and never had a problem with the Pinlock.