Brawl For All - The "Real" WWF Tournament
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Wrestling Bios Presents - Brawl For All: The Real WWF Tournament
When many think of World Wrestling Entertainment or American professional wrestling as a whole, the general public's first thoughts are that wrestling is scripted and pre-determined, and they aren't wrong. Wrestling has rose in popularity despite not being legitimate and fans of pro wrestling have always understood that their favourite encounters in the ring are planned well ahead of schedule. But what if the WWE allowed their wrestlers to have real showdowns in the ring? That is excactly what the Brawl For All tournament was, a chance for professional wrestlers that worked for the WWF to compete in real and legit encounters.
This video takes an in-depth look at the Brawl for All tournament held on WWE Raw back in 1998. From competitors like Dan Severn and Steve Williams being hot favourites to win the whole thing, to the underdog Bart Gunn rising up to surprise everyone. Topics covered include:
00:31 - What was the Brawl for All tournament?
03:31 - Why the Brawl For All didn't sit well with wrestling fans
05:37 - Vince Russo creates the Brawl for All to get back at JBL
08:01 - The Brawl for All entrants and the lack of Ken Shamrock
11:35 - Brawl for All rules
16:24 - Dan Severn's first Brawl for All match
18:10 - Steve Williams becomes the favourite
24:08 - The Brawl for All Final
24:51 - Bart Gunn vs Butterbean
- Loads more!
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It's a real shame what they did to Bart in the end. SOOOO unfair that they put Butterbean in there to kill him. I have a feeling you are right, that this was literally "punishment" for beating Dr. Death earlier on in the tournament. I feel like JR himself may have had some pull in making that Butterbean thing happen.
Agreed. U couldn’t expect him to hold a candle to Fcking butterbean
My thoughts exactly
Definitely a punishment, but I don't think JR came up with the idea
@@RobCrowley85Dr. Death getting pushed as JR’s idea, so it’s definitely a possibility that JR wanted to punish Gunn.
@@onesaucynougat7471It was definitely Vince. Guy is sadistic
Steve Blackman was so ripped during the Brawl for All that he looks like an action figure of himself.
He was on roids
@@Dreamerland101 no he wasn't
@@Dreamerland101 yeah in 87-88 but Steve had an allergic reaction and never took them since, so no he wasn't roided during this time
@@Dreamerland101 So what.
I sweah to Cohny! How many 'Steves' were in the WWF t that time?!
It's insane to think Shamrock, Severn and Blackman were all on the WWE roster at the same time
If it was a straight up striking tournament Marc Mero would have won, as he was a legit Boxer. However, it was a bizarre hybrid of striking and takedowns.
It was set up for dr death to win, watch the dark side of the ring episode on it
@@PeaceDweller if striking includes kicks, Blackman still beats him. Can't box without knees.
I would say definitely yes if Marc Mero was his young Golden Gloves age (you can include all of them in their prime) but I am not sure he would even be able to beat everybody with boxing cause it did seem like he lacked power, possibly cause Marc Mero said he had 5 surgeries on his shoulders & elbows not to mention, he was up there in age. Bart might of still won even though he definitely does not have the boxing skills as Maro Mero has, but win on power punches alone.
@@hoscoepcoltraneYou couldn't kick in the Brawl for All.
The mistake was making Bart go against butterbean
I actually remember that pay per view, it went black for 20 seconds and the next you know, Bart Gunn was knocked out cold.
A legit boxer against a pro wrestler who got lucky and ko'ed a couple of his buddies, what could go wrong?
@@Supervillain725
Couldn't they have bribed him to take it easy on him?
@@molasorrosalom4846 maybe he was paid to destroy Bart Gunn a quickly as possible.
@@Supervillain725
Sounds kind of illegal. I wonder if Bart signed a waiver.
I always thought the brawl for all was a really cool concept. My friends all likes it a lot too so when social media became a thing I was surprised as hell how many people hated it.
Watching terrible fighting in a fixed tournament was a really cool concept? How?
I thought so too. I still think it could be a nice spin off sport. Just needs open hand gloves.
The rules are very similar to those back yard boxing matches Kimbo Slice used to do. Takedowns and boxing.
@@kkimber359 it wasn't fixed tho. That's why Bart Gunn got buried.
It buried the entire rest of the roster by saying these guys are legit fighters, the rest are not.
I thought it was cool
Poor Bart Gunn. He was the tournament winner but still ended up a loser.
He still made good $ and destroyed the brawl for all plans ;)
He definitely was one tuff sumbitch
Not to much of a loser, he made 75 grand !! Nice chunk a dough!!
Then he went to Japan. I'd think he made some good money there, being the guy who beat tf out of Dr. Death.
Bart Gunn got knocked out worse than Johnny Knoxville did lol
Watching JBL getting KTFO by a jobber made this the greatest thing ever on WWE TV.
Joey styles punched out a drunk jbl in a Tribute to the Troops overseas trip. Wish they had footage of that.
@@ed-roc2054 its recently been revealed that was a lie and a publicity stunt as they were trying to give Joey credibility for a world title run
@@ed-roc2054 I doubt joey styles could generate enough punching power to knock someone down, Much less out.
@@hell-sol5240 if brawl for all was still around in 2020 who do you want in it and who do you think would win
@@cratus2748 its not even a debate Lesnar would destroy absolutely everyone
Never forget when it happened and Blackman vs Mero was the first fight I saw. I looked at my uncle and said “are they really fighting?” And they were.
Dan Severn earned his name The Beast for a reason. He was a badass dude
With all the hate this tournament gets, its nice to hear someone else have some good things to say, despite its obvious problems. btw, amazing to see you now getting plugs from good ol JR.
@Darrell Williams agreed. Couldn't say it better myself lol
When did he get plugged? Am i missing something
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@@WaqarAhmed786
But,
Jonathan Coachman did introduce the Steve Blackman video.
I agree as a young teenager i LOVED it
I dont know how much of the dark side of the ring can be taken as gospel but it certainly did alot of harm to these men.
Bart most defintely got ribbed on that match against butterbean. BB had some of the strongest punches in boxing and a tough chin and to expect Bart to even make it competitive is insane
ribbed? I’m pretty sure it wasn’t a joke lol
I remember this whole tourney. I thought Bart Gunn was going to take off after this
The tournament should have ended there. Having him get decapitated by Butterbean so quickly really hurt the brand.
No, Dr Death was supposed to win.
I would have pushed him to at least an IC title run.
Ken Shamrock doesn't enough respect. I respect and agree with his decision to not enter.
He Tamed the Beast at UFC 6
He had nothing more to prove
@@ComicBookGuy420, exactly!
@@ComicBookGuy420
Shamrock lol!
Dan Severn is not only a super fight champion, he's first and only triple crown UFC champion. Severn won 2 UFC tournaments, and also held the UFC heavy championship.
What has shamrock achieved in the UFC? Just that one fluke guillotine choke on Dan Severn, his only legitimate competition victory.
Most of shamrock's opponents were tomato cans, and whenever he stepped up against a quality opponent he'd be made humble.
Severn did beat shamrock in their second fight. If not for that fluke guillotine victory, shamrock wouldn't have any accolades in the UFC.
He's not on Severn's level, he's not enough to even lace Severn's boots.
Get outta here with that BS. You haven't a clue what you're talking about.
Look and compare their records in MMA, then come and talk to me.
@@igorivanov299 the were both top MMA competitors at their time. Shamrock lost to Gracie and then took Gracie to a draw, where Severn lost to him in their one fight (although Severn was inexperienced at that time). Shamrock also beat Kimo fairly easily, where Gracie had had trouble with him. Shamrock also had a very good run in Pancrase in Japan, beating Bas Rutten for example. You can argue that Severn was greater and maybe he was, but it´s far fetched to say Shamrock couldn´t lace his boots, especially since in their two fights, Shamrock won one by submission and Severn won a long and drawn out second fight on points.
@@rokkvi1
"Pancrase" oh you mean those slapping matches. lol.
Bas Rutten another overrated fighter, what's his UFC record, I dare you to look.
Kimo isn't really in the top echelon of fighters. Shamrock hasn't beaten anyone worthwhile besides his first encounter with Dan Severn, and by which he fluked.
The second match against Gracie was pathetic, he just layed there looking for the draw, didn't attempt anything the whole match. Shamrock is one of the biggest frauds in MMA history. In professional wrestling on the other hand I believe he was underrated and deserved a title shot and more recognition, but for his name to be spoken within the same breath as legends like Dan Severn, Royce Gracie, Oleg Taktarov, Don Frye, Mark Coleman, Marco Ruas is a travesty and MMA historical revisionism. Those aforementioned fighters all did something shamrock couldn't get close to, actually winning the UFC tournament. That was the goal was it not in the early days?. The super fight match was created specifically because shamrock couldn't get it done, so they created that spot for him. We have to be honest here, shamrock gets underserved recognition for something he hasn't really achieved in.
Not to speak ill of the dead, but Ken Shamrock would have killed Dr Death in a straight one-on-one. Ken never backed down from anything (as proven in his later MMA career when he really should have).
Brutally. It may have been a different story if it was a prime vs prime fight, but at this time Ken would have shattered him.
Shamrock would destroy Steve... SeRiOuSLY?!?!?
@@01dirtydirk Do you eally think Blackman would beat Shamrock in a fight? Please tell me how.
@@JamesMMcCann Aikido and Kenpo
Just two martial arts disciplines Blackman has a proficiency in
I don't think he'd destroy shamrock,
Shamrock beat Severn to win UFC 6
Severn is a tough SOB
but I think it'd be a close fight
I think both in their prime I'd love to see a best of 7 series of original UFC rules, Shamrock's shoot fighting skills vs Blackman's Martial Arts skills
@@ComicBookGuy420 I know he'd done Kenpo, didn't realise Aikido. In a one-to-one MMA fight, Shamrock would win,but either guy would be good to have on your side.In a pro work environment, Blackman after a year travelling with Bret, Owen, Davey would have been something spectacular
Bart Gunn really could've done so much after this. He got cheered like hell when he was given those golden gloves by JR.
I always love how when Vince Russo has a good idea everyone is so quick to say well " that's just cuz he had Vince McMahon to run the ideas through as a filter". But soon as 1 of his ideas is 💩 McMahon's name is never brought up".
This comment is on point 💯
I wish we would have got a brawl for all mode in one of the smackdown vs raw games
Slobberknocker mode is on a few of the early SD games.
Wcw v Nwo had a boxer character
@@insignificantaftermathPROJECTSSlobberknocker mode was a gauntlet-style match.
that would’ve been sicc
They should have just pushed Bart as a decent mid-carder after he won. He had a pretty good hardcore match with Bob Holly. JR just had to get his revenge. 💲⬇🚽
I always said McMahon should’ve made him his personal bodyguard. Maybe put him in a feud against his former tag team partner Billy Gunn.
6:30 I don't believe that was a quote from Vince Russo, there was no use of the word "bro" before and after each sentence.
😂
Thoroughly recommend Bob Holly's book. His take on this is really fascinating and he gives a lot of details on what it was like backstage.
No thanks
Would've been weird to see steve Williams vs steve austin. Seeing that steve Austin's name is really steve williams. Jesus it took me 22 years to see that
I always feel sorry for Bart Gunn in this.. he earned 75k as the winner.. instead of a WWE Championship shot, he got thrown with a Pro KO artist and then get's dropped. Total BS!
Unfortunately, I was also hurt in the brawl for all...watching it!
A career look at Bob Backlund would be very intriguing as well
I met Mr backland in ac once with my girlfriend he gave a promo
Lol. I called.him Bob by accident. He cut ar backlund to you promo. Amazing
@@greenshirtandtuxedopantsmo1015 Lucky Bastard
It's a humble brag, but Shamrock's statement is totally valid IMO. You saw what happened when Gunn fought Butterbean. And Butterbean is a butter bean! Plus according to Severn, the money was kind of a joke compared to actual pro fights. Don't blame them one bit.
Just think how awkward it would have been for Jim Ross & Vince Russo If JBL was the one who knockout Steve Williams instead of Bart Gunn? lol
Much respect to Hawk and Droz for that moment. Doesn't salvage this shitstain, but good on them and others for trying to keep it interesting regardless.
Vince Russo was at least satsified seeing the douche get mauled at the end haha
I don't remember watching any of these fights live so I was probably watching more WCW at the time...
Same
i think warrior just came to WCW around the same time
@@wagwagz6062 This was after that
Nobody was watching, I had seen better skill in bum fights
So we really have JBL to blame for the Brawl For All 😁
16:28 listing Dan Severn’s credentials 😍
He somehow forgot to mention his biggest credentials, he was an All American wrestler and AAU Champion..facepalm
I was literally just watching the Steve "Blackman" story. Awesome
@Edd 1 2020 is all about vibes and "things just hitting different", I wanna jump in head first towards the here and right now with a Steve Williams like confidence. Brace yourself World🌎, I got a stiffy for being cutting edge and contemporary and I'm ready to shoot👉🏿.
To be honest i loved the concept.
Seeing JBL getting knocked out alone was worth it!
I'm Surprised That It Wasn't Undertaker Who Knocked JBL Out
Bart Gunn went on to fight in mma at 44 years old he went 1-1 Bart beat Wesley corriera by TKO who has 21-16 record in mma and fought in the UFC Aginist fighters like Tim Sylvia Andrei arlovski tank Abbot Joe Riggs and Wesley actually fought butterbean in mma 5 months before he fought Bart Gunn mma and he knocked out butterbean in a kickboxing match. Bart Gunn other mma fight was a loss to ikuhisa minowa who was a legend in Pride Fc Fighting fighters like MIRKO Cro Cop, sakurba rammpage Jackson wanderlei silva. So Bart acc fought some really good guys later on
I was introduced to UFC when i was 6, some early fights featuring my uncle's buddy Keith Hackney.
Edit: that was 23 years ago. Holy sh**
The giant killer!
Man I was glued to wrestling back in 98
Me too! Channel flipping between wcw and wwf on monday nights lol. Ahh good times
Vince Russo can say he did this to humiliate Bradshaw but ultimately Bradshaw got to the final round
It was rigged though. Droz beat Bradshaw in the semifinals but they gave the points to Bradshaw.
@@dariog36th well I just watched that fight and they both threw a lot of punches but I think Bradshaw won by punches landed more or less though in the 2nd round it was close. Droz scored a takedown but only one
Only because Blackman got hurt and Dan The Man pulled out
@@grammysworld5449 actually Dan Severn didn’t pull out, he was taken out of it by some backstage politic stuff. Regardless though Bradshaw found himself in the final round
@@TheMan-je5xq it's still an asterisk..Also neither side of that can be confirmed.. Dan, shamrock, the higher ups, and even JR himself have differing opinions on what happened
It was a good idea, in theory, in practice, having some of your "toughest" guys get knocked out on live tv wasn't such a good idea, it killed Mero's and Gunn's careers
Old School Uncensored they shoulda neva signed up fa it🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Nixkrude79 ego demanded they did
@Darrell Williams nobody took Mero seriously after BFA
@Darrell Williams nobody took him seriously after BFA, up till then he had the fact that he was a golden gloves boxer
After BFA it proved pickings must've been slim when he got em
@@ComicBookGuy420 how do you figure? The man is a boxer. How does a boxer train for takedowns before MMA training? Please tell me
This is by far the best Wrasslin channel on YT
Great job as usual!!
What I loved the most from Brawl For All was the theme music it had.
Wrestling Bios > Oscars
@Gene Bone Video dropped the same time as watching the Oscars.
Sweet! I've been waiting to see this since the last video (Blackman) when you said you'd be making it! Didn't think it'd be so soon, thankya! Severn shoulda followed Shamrock's lead, neither should've been allowed to compete.
He's very quick with the videos! In great detail too!
@@kodiiayyeee256 I know and they're the perfect length and always something I've always wanted to know more about OR something I didn't even know I wanted to know about lol. #WrestlingBios is the man!
As much as I dislike JBL I kind of wish he won, especially if it meant he faced Butterbean because it would have been great to see JBL get destroyed instead of poor Bart Gunn lol.
Droz seems like a good dude
CM Punk would of probably lost at this too
Lmao cm punk is never real athlete has zero backgrounds
It was amazing to see jbl get knocked out 😂
Who's here after Dark Side of the Ring?
Dr. Death. RIP old friend.....
Crazy you are almost at 100k subscribers I remember when I first subscribed I think you were like in the ones or twos lol awesome
Should be at least a million
@@davidquinn7822 agreed
Me too. This guy is on the rise. Best damn wrestling channel
I remember a few of these fights but this was back in the era of changing the channel back and forth to WCW, so I don’t remember seeing a lot of these, but I knew Bart won.
While going against the grain of being a scripted show, Brawl for All did really test the abilities of the talent WWE/WWF had, and it really highlighted who really had ringsmarts.
The smartest guys were the ones who didn't participate.
Brawl For All is one of my favorite laugh out loud behind the scene stories. They paid winner purse twice, first to Steve Williams, then to Bart Gunn. JR hyping Steve because he's Boomer Sooner. It pretty much ruined almost everyone's career whoever was involve in it. We saw the last of Brakkus and PCO after this. Henry Goodwin, who still got messed up neck, didn't last long after this. Williams never recovered. As punishment for winning Bart got fed to Butterbean
We saw the last of PCO
He was on his way out anyway, due to his issues with other company guys
JR was Hyping Williams because he was his guy, he brought Williams in
The winner was always going to face Butterbean at WM
Otherwise yeah, spot on
Butterbean was definetly a punishment, you think Dr.Death would have gotten butterbean at mania if he won?
Butterbean said on darkside he was brought in as a punishment for bart winning. Death was never gonna fight him at mania. Death was expected to win and that be used as the spring board to Stonecold. They give him the prize money before he even won. But then ended up looking real dumb when it was over. Killed Williams career right there.
@@lonnynix9362Butterbean, within the boxing world, was kind of a sideshow. He only fought 4 round fights generally.
But he was still a pro boxer. He went 10 rounds with Larry Holmes (Holmes was in his sixties).
And the match at Wrestlemania actually prohibited takedowns.
Butterbean would have destroyed Williams or anyone else in the tournament.
Should've put old Haku & Barbarian in there. Would've been a nice pay day for the Polynesian brothers🤙🏾
I remember this tournament Bart Gun was no joke
Always nice to hear a fellow wrestling fan who loves boxing too. Nigel Benn was class. His tragic war with Gerald McClellan is one of the best fights ever.🥊
Bart Gunn is a beast. I just got here on my peacock Raw rewatch. This is GOLD to watch still.
I don't care what anybody else says. I absolutely loved the Brawl for all.
I especially enjoyed seeing Bradshaw getting beaten and humilliated by Bart Gunn. 😈
He deserved it!! 👍
You could certainly enjoy it and it was interesting in a way to see the wrestlers fight in (sort of) real fights. It´s pretty obvious that it was not good for biz though, or for the wrestlers.
Now I'm not accusing of you being Vince Russo, but, that IS exactly something he would say. LOL
Exactly! What's the problem with it! There's plenty of segments that I and other wrestling fans don't like, it's not like it took up the whole show or something. As for the I juries etc, well what do they thinks going to happen if its a shoot fight... Acting as though they only realised AFTERWARDS that there was a potential for injuries. Also as u say Bradshaw got humiliated lol who wouldn't want to see that except his wife maybe... Or maybe even she would like to see him silenced occasionally I bet lol so perhaps his mother.... But anyone else would be happy to see the bullying asshole knocked out! They only moan about it because Jr's lover didn't win it so he buries it now.
@@cutekanjii i hope it's not too late, or maybe you got it squared away by now, but damn dude, you had INSANELY high blood pressure. hope you got it fixed, otherwise try quaaludes.
If Blackman and Hawk weren't injured and if Severn didn't withdraw then the favorites to win the tournament would be:
1) Steve Blackman
2) Dan Severn
3) Bart Gunn
4) Road Warrior Hawk
5) Dr Death Steve Williams
Props to Godfather. He wasn't scared of the Beast. He had no chance and he had to know it, but he wasn't scared.
Russo seems to only have tunnel vision. He does something for one reason, but fails to think of the consequences and how it will effect other people’s careers
Nither does Vince the owner...As Russo was pitching it to him...He was probably like, "Yes!, that's it dammit!...it'll make me millions!"
Russo is a creative genius bro
This was outstanding, very detailed
I would buy a PPV if they did this again, highlight of my childhood
I remember this PERFECTLY well, Bart Gunn looked like a million dollars when this thing happened. People LEGITIMATELY we looking forward to following him, but idiots thought lets keep him off TV for a few months, then take him to WM and get him knocked out. Fools tripped over a Golden nugget, and decided to pick it up and flush it. Absolute Morons...
@Rich Affinito 😭😭😭😭 it's true lol good wrestler though but just boring lol
@Rich Affinito I mean I remember him from his work in Japan, but ok
@Rich Affinito Its not about being bland. Matt Hardy was Bland as F in 1999/2000, but they gave him a chance here and there, and look at him now. One of THE MOST recognised. Bart could have picked up on it potentially. whether he would have or not is debatable, but the fact that he got shafted for accidentally getting over is obvious as daylight. Case in point RUSEV...
@Rich Affinito again dude not COMPARING. it's giving something a chance. Not all 5 fingers are the same, all wrestling fans have varying tastes and different perceptions. One perception is that the brawl for all exposed Bart Gunn with more TV time than ever before, but rather than experimenting, after huge investment in tv terms, they rather decided to scrap it and flush him. Again just a perception. By the way i like rusev and matt.
Not even gonna lie, Droz was the real MVP of this tournament. He was the only one who tried to make the matches remotely entertaining rather than just a punchfest. Plus the images of him hugging Hawk & Savio after the matches brings a tear to my eye.
His matches were the best ones.
I been waiting on this one can we get Adrian Adonis when you got time
I know this is ultimately seen as a fail, but as a 12 year old who had no access to any sort of mma, I thoroughly enjoyed this.
They thought Steve Williams was going to win the whole thing, which baffled me because Dan Severn was in there [...]
THANK YOU!!
If Severn or Blackman were allowed to fight for real, they'd have had an easy time. But since kicking wasn't allowed and you can't do shoot wrestling in mittens, they were hampered.
Antonio Inoki would have approved this since he put his wrestlers in real MMA fights in Japan.
I haven’t been a big wrestling fan since the early 90’s, and yet I absolutely love this channel and watch every single video! That says a lot for how well made these videos are. Keep up the great work! 👍🏼
According to Severn himself, HIS deal was for one fight, and when he won the road agents were kind of sketchy about telling him he had to fight again. That and the glove thing. Hearing it from him, it makes sense. Yes, he talks big, y'know, "let me take these gloves off and I'll show the world what real wrestling is," blah blah blah, but I do believe him.
Hardcore Holly on how hard Bart Gunn punches. "I was on one side of the ring, he punched me and I was on the other literally wondering how I go over here"
Just finished up the Dark Side of The Ring about the Brawl, this is a fantastic follow up piece.
In this modern age, this tournament will be talk of the year and made millions for company and fighters
Like UFC
I was introduced to UFC the same way. I friend of mine in school lent me the Second UFC PPV on tape. Except mine was a good copy, it was years later in 98' after the original event so the tapes were all being sold in stores at that point.
Closed captions: “...the torn hamstring that he suffered at the brothel...”
If Brawl For All was in 1988 instead of 1998, Haku wouldve won....... by forfeit
They could've done it as a work, just pay the guys equal money, that way Dr death wins and builds up to Williams vs Austin
One good thing you could say about the Brawl For All was the tournament-style format. WWE (or any promotion really) should really consider doing something like this to determine No. 1 Contenders for championships. It would give wrestlers more exposure and make the matches more meaningful instead of just random filler.
Agreed.
The Gold Rush tournament in 2005 was good.
I like the Brawl For All but all the takedowns and the writers and Vince punishing a guy that “wasn’t suppose to win” really killed it for me. If they deducted points on takedowns and the people setting it up wasn’t trying to script the outcomes it would’ve been better than it actually was
Most hate on the brawl for all but I like you liked, & like it. I also was a wrestling & boxing fan who was introduced to early UFC. I enjoyed all three so brawl for all was right up my alley.
And justice for Bart Gunn...❤
A Brawl for All would be the only reason I would tune in today. Imagine having the legitimate tough guys with skills mind you face off, but this time fix what was done wrong in the past like Not giving Bart Gunn his proper due in his chosen career.
Ok so, how did Steve Williams get embarrassed by Bart Gunn? He lost, he got ko'd. Those are two large men throwing meat and bone at each other's face. Anyone can get their lights turned out if they catch one on the spot.
"Tough" has nothing to do with winning or losing a fight, it's the willingness to square up and go when it's time, knowing how those chips might fall.
Dude looked horrible
I admit i enjoyed watching the Brawl for Alls (excluding the take downs.) May be because i loved Toughman style boxing tournaments back in the day.
Poor Bart, Vince really can be ruthless lol
Between yesterday and today, Steve Blackman has a new fan!
This almost sounds like a cowardly way for Vince to hurt people he had a problem with, surely I'm wrong and it's a stupid thought...I hope.
A thing that popped into my head watching this, and now I can't get it loose: "Huh, I guess WWF sorta-kinda tried Inokism before Inoki did."
Surprised you didnt mention Hawk vs Droz being unique due to Droz temporarily replacing Hawk in LOD during that infamous angle.
I think this tournament was a very interesting idea ! Nowadays That kind of tournament Would have more success
I always wanted more info on this tourney, I really enjoyed this detailed vid!!
Thanks for posting!
Yea I liked the concept too but they just needed to tweak a few things. 1. Do not have a real super heavyweight champion box the first brawl for all winner at WrestleMania. Because no matter who won and how badass they thought they were,the chances of beating a legit world champion were extremely slim so that's a lose lose situation. Also do not try to shoehorn in your picked winner like Dr death. They set the whole thing up as a way to push him in his wwf debut as a legit badass but You can't push someone in a real SHOOT style tournament because you cannot predict the outcome. They should have just picked all the guys and let it go the way it goes tournament style, And then when you have the winner, have something figured out for him in a big payoff match.
Brock vs Riddle for the 2020 Brawl For All Finale
Lol riddle would die. Brock made it to the top of the UFC, riddle didn't come close.
My god I hope your joking
A nobody welterweight failure vs the former 2x defending ufc heavyweight champion?
You want riddle to die?
In all honesty, WWF wrestlers are overall bigger and stronger than most boxers so any real blows from them would be devastating. Thumbs up to them for having this tournament.
Jim Ross made sure Bart Gunn would not succeed in the company after the BFA tournament for beating Dr. Death.
@Rich Affinito that and the fact that he was a legit tough guy, rare in the wrestling business, I mean he got messed up going against Butterbean, but he showed he had some power in that big left hand
Just because you don't like him doesn't mean others don't
@Rich Affinito Stan Hansen is still talked about today, as is Meng, top guys or not they were memorable, hell, Mengs still going strong
@Rich Affinito wait, did you say Vader wasn't a top guy😂
Sure he never won the title, but in the 80's and 90's he feuded with most of those that did
Like Dr. Death, Bart Gunn, he was huge in Japan
@Rich Affinito Bart was remembered for knocking out Dr. death, who was a legend in Japan
Vader and Meng were both remembered for being tough guys, and an asshole in Vader's case
Honestly when it was happening I was also pretty interested in it but I do see the problems with it. I think Scott Hall said it best that “wrestlers are built for show not for a go” there is a huge difference in working out too heavy good looking body for television versus working out and exercising and training for a combat sport.
The main problems with it I saw besides it being a stupid idea is how mainly Bruce Prichard keeps saying that everyone was chosen at random and they weren’t really trying to fix it so Steve Williams would win.
I rewatched A few of the brawl for all fights earlier this week and honestly there were at least two fights I remember watching where you could tell that they were trying to rig the fight with their point system. I forget which fight it was I was watching but the guy that was really winning the fight that have actually landed like four punches had zero points and there was his opponent who had landed one punch and he had 20 points.
I want to see the other fight that I watched was actually the one with Steve Williams and Bart Gunn I want to see that one they had Steve’s points ridiculously high to the point that if Bart did not knock him out he was going to lose that fight on points.
The other thing that I thought was stupid about it was they shouldn’t have had it takedowns be a thing in it. This should’ve just been a straight up tough man contest we’re all you did was punch. You’re going to award points for takedowns but everyone’s going to be wearing boxing gloves? That just made the WWE look so socially awkward to me like the really don’t have any hip to them at all and they know nothing about real sports.
You can’t put those boxing gloves on guys and say it’s a mixed fighting style tournaments because if guys can’t really use their fingers to grapple than your takedowns are really just guys wrapping their arms around each other and trying to throw them.
And if they were going to do a point system they should’ve had a third-party come in if this was going to be a shoot and everything was going to be on the up and up then it wouldn’t have mattered if a third-party was there or not if you weren’t trying to fix this thing. I have someone that actually knows how to keep points do this and not just have WWE put who they want out there so they can try to fix the fight.
The other thing that I thought was very low class of them was once things didn’t start going their way was that they felt the need to have to start punishing people who they talked into doing this. So you tell a guy to go into the ring and fight for real but he’s not the guy you want to win so when a real fight he wins you get your panties in a bunch? I’m sorry but the idea of real life pussies like Bruce Prichard and Vince Russo, guys like that that would get their manhood took in less than a minute if they were in prison being able to dictate what happens to someone’s career either by burying them or putting them in the ring with someone hoping they would get seriously hurt really is irritating to me. Butterbean straight up said that he was brought in by WWE to basically ruined Bart‘s career. If you don’t like the guy because he embarrassed the guy you thought was going to win then just be a man about it and tell him to his face and send him at home. Honestly that’s what they should’ve done with all the WCW and ECW wrestlers. Just be honest and say that you’re a little bitch and you can’t get over the fact that as a grown man you worked had another company because at the time you didn’t have an opportunity to work here but since I’m a bitch I’m not going to tell you that to your face but I’m just going to bury you for the next year on television so you’ll be worth nothing for the rest of your career.
Such a shame Haku wasn’t in the WWF at the time he would have been a perfect fit for this
Or he would've gotten exposed like Dr Death.
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I would LOVE to see a reboot of it, albeit a modified version with an exclusive roster with those who have MMA backgrounds. Reboot Saturday Night Main and & make it a WWE version of UFC with Brawl for All rules and utilizing the Lions Den. Even allow crossover from the main roster.
As for the whole thing, it was actually set up for Steve Williams to win & get a MAJOR push...
With as many superstars have MMA background now
Imagine trying it again
when I saw this on tv I just thought it was a work like the rest of the show, I had forgotten about the Butterbean punishment beating lol.
Brawl For All was a good concept...I liked it ....I wish they had did it every year...