I have not really been into CNC machines because the parts are usually small and can’t see anything going on with the coolant, but love seeing the big jobs like this.
Gosto muito dos seus videos poderia fazer um vídeo completo sobre fixações de peça mostrando sua experiência de vivencia ,dando exemplos de como fixar diferentes tipos de peças ,e mostrando seus fixadores e como usa-los da melhor maneira .Desde já agradeço se poder vai ser mais um a grande vídeo de ensino e pratica .Obrigado !
Bro, I watched the video you made very carefully, the technique is very good, I'm not only talking about your processing technique, but also your filming technique, I'm very sincere to ask you, do you buy your steel offline or online, I very much need an online platform to buy steel, I'm looking forward to your reply.
Я неточно выразился - встроенную опцию симатрона. Там в tapping есть user parameters, где можно выбрать фрезерование резьбы, шаг, диаметр, направление фрезерования, кол-во зубов и т.д.
Hello. Good work as always. But i was always wondering why you leave so much rest material to be machined after the hardening? Is there any special reasoning. Thanks and keep the good work
The thing is that heat treating cause material to warp, deflect and sometimes even sink due to changes in material crystallographic structure and post hardening stress relaxation hence it's a good practice to leave a bit more than less. when you work with the same material and treat it the same you can reduce it but with funny shapes and one offs better to stay on the safe site.
@@0PcHeLkaaI work in the automotive industry building moulds big moulds we cut All ofmoulds with h13 steel .100 safe then we send it out for heat treat because it comes back warped and then we finish it to size after heat treated to RC 45 my mould contains anywhere between 6 to 8 inserts 7000 pounds
with many modern carbide grades and coatings, generally in steels, the coolant causes micro thermal cracks due to the heating / cooling cycle. The through tool air blast he is using is much more beneficial, it allows the tool to remain a constant temperature and blasts the swarf away from the cut.
Number one rule to avoid tention in metal when cutting it is avoiding the use of tools with inserts. They're great tools but if used with hardening the part can and will warp. This is especially important with mold components
Another good looking job done. It always makes me wondering when watching your videos guys why do you use such a long tools to machine not so deep pockets and you get all that tool chatter. That 20mm cutter you used looks like it's 2x longer than necessary.
I think if its not broke dont fix it. If the part is in tolerance its fine. There are enough operation changes flipping the part at 3 axis i think i would also leave the tools alone.
@@wrighty338, @CncFrezar I see you point guys, it works, we are all lazy but there is a lot of chatter on many of your jobs you share with us and it kills cutters/ inserts much faster than it should so you might see some savings in tools that you can spend to buy more tools better fit for the job though.
If they can run the tools dry for so long for such a complex toolpath I guess the chatter is acceptable. An insert costs like 3 to 8 euros, even if it breaks, well replace it
@@Orakwan yeah, "just 3-8€ times 4-5 inserts. 3-5 inserts changes and you have a new milling head. Not mentioning time to stop the machine, change and remeasure tool, rerun program. Look at the bigger picture and you will hopefully see the benefit of picking the right tool for the job. If you are a CNC operator then "well replace it, who cares" but if you run a place and productivity is the key to make money then you appreciate little improvements like that.
Big deal. Its called work and you enter numbers into a computer. Not that impressive..... donit all layout by hand and use the old bridgeport and then you can talk
A bridgport works fine, but it's nowhere near as fast, efficient, or repeatable. Why don't you show us your all-manual mold and die work, if it's no big deal?
Open up your own shop and see how faryou come with your bridgeport😂 Are you seriously yapping about how easy work quick cash is not worth it? Other than that, there are demanding parts that require you stare at the drawings for an hour before you start. You still have to fight chatter, tooling management and how to clamp, the only thing that got easy is not slowly wanking and spinning wheels to move the spindle. But you couldnt know, to your gay bridgeport times you never had to manufacture anything demanding, all squares and lines😂
I have not really been into CNC machines because the parts are usually small and can’t see anything going on with the coolant, but love seeing the big jobs like this.
Very good jbb CncFrezar
Thanks
Gosto muito dos seus videos poderia fazer um vídeo completo sobre fixações de peça mostrando sua experiência de vivencia ,dando exemplos de como fixar diferentes tipos de peças ,e mostrando seus fixadores e como usa-los da melhor maneira .Desde já agradeço se poder vai ser mais um a grande vídeo de ensino e pratica .Obrigado !
Спасибо большое, отличная работа, поздравляю
bilgi paylaştıkça çoğalır.
tam bir usta işi ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
peki teşekkür ederim
I also program thread milling, but in Worknc. This strategy is very useful.
I constantly see these types of videos and wonder why people dont use tools that are of appropriate length for the job...
Longer the tool makes it more flexible for other work
Spindle doesn’t reach to the table with short holder more thank likely. A lot of 50 taper machines can’t get much closer than 12 inches from the table
Impressive, good tooling, job well done, and video well made
Хорошая работа, молодцы❤
Another nice part, very satisfying!
Muy buen trabajo solo una pregunta como haces tus calculos para un cortador de 35 diam le des S1800 y F 5000 de antemano muchas gracias!!!
Bueno, gracias. Siempre uso estas condiciones de corte para este material en particular. Trabajamos con él a menudo.
Bro, I watched the video you made very carefully, the technique is very good, I'm not only talking about your processing technique, but also your filming technique, I'm very sincere to ask you, do you buy your steel offline or online, I very much need an online platform to buy steel, I'm looking forward to your reply.
Hi. Thank you. My boss buys the steel, I'm just a worker
programing, tooling amazing!
Скажите, почему не используете встроенную опцию фрезерования резьбы? Есть какие то плюсы в прорисовывание спирали?
Я не знаю. Программируем все в Cimatron
Я неточно выразился - встроенную опцию симатрона. Там в tapping есть user parameters, где можно выбрать фрезерование резьбы, шаг, диаметр, направление фрезерования, кол-во зубов и т.д.
Excellent work!
Hello.
Good work as always. But i was always wondering why you leave so much rest material to be machined after the hardening? Is there any special reasoning.
Thanks and keep the good work
For sure :-)
i would ges, that if you give the tool not enoght to eat, it just bounce of your material, and won't cut.
The thing is that heat treating cause material to warp, deflect and sometimes even sink due to changes in material crystallographic structure and post hardening stress relaxation hence it's a good practice to leave a bit more than less. when you work with the same material and treat it the same you can reduce it but with funny shapes and one offs better to stay on the safe site.
@@0PcHeLkaaI work in the automotive industry building moulds big moulds we cut All ofmoulds with h13 steel .100 safe then we send it out for heat treat because it comes back warped and then we finish it to size after heat treated to RC 45 my mould contains anywhere between 6 to 8 inserts 7000 pounds
Thanks for share@@0PcHeLkaa
One other thing - why everything is machined dry? is this dictated by the cutters/ materials you use or is there some other reason for that?
with many modern carbide grades and coatings, generally in steels, the coolant causes micro thermal cracks due to the heating / cooling cycle. The through tool air blast he is using is much more beneficial, it allows the tool to remain a constant temperature and blasts the swarf away from the cut.
Good video🤟
super good jod 😀😀😀👍👍👍👍👍👍looks nice🤘
Очень красиво сделана работа
Отлично. В какой CAM готовите уп?
Cimatron
What is the material of the mold insert you machine? Have you heat treat it?. If so, to what condition?
Everything is described in detail during the video.
Hi! i'd be happy to see the cad/cam simulation in some small side window. i'm getting into CAM-ing and i am very interested.
Maybe in the future if they allow me to.
good job !
Хорошо когда есть чем работать 😅
jak zwykle dobry film ,
There appeared to be some pretty bad burs on the threads, how did you fix that?
We left it at that
4:52 Do you dial the job after flipping it over against the pressure put from the vice?
No other way
Sprawdzasz czujnikiem czy detal dobrze leży w imadłach? czy po prostu mocujesz i obrabiasz?
B jest poprawny.
@@CncFrezar B? A co to jest B?
@@snejku Zaciskam imadło i robię to😀
@@CncFrezar dzięki za odpowiedź 👍😊
for a ball mill the spindle speed is 5500 rpm. is this because the machine does not give more?
Maximum 8000 rpm, but at these speeds the machine has SpaceX launch sounds
👌
Pekná práca.
What is the depth of cut for facing?
1mm
Isn’t it easy to get cutter with big inserts for milling outside walls? Something like Kennametal 4-15 with 15mm step down (az)?
They are inclined surfaces
Krásná práce ;)
Покажите цех термообработки: печи, ванны, механику...
у нас этого нет
حلم حياتي ان اقف ورا الماكنة هذه
Ile czasu zajęło wykonanie takiego detalu ?
Bardzo długo. Ale nie wolno mi mówić o czasie.
Good job watch is treapy
Bravo 🤙
buen trabajo
👍👍👍🤘
very good
Hello, which Cam program do you use?
Cimatron
@@CncFrezar thank you enjoy your work
kolko mm pridavky pred kalenim?
Podla rozmeru. Tu asi 2mm
Где калибровка?
GOOD...^^
Hi i didnt understand what did you mean ae for example you wrote ae %70 in 1:07 minute what is that mean?
Track overlay
70% from cutter ø, so in this case 24.5mm. so 10.5mm overlapping
Number one rule to avoid tention in metal when cutting it is avoiding the use of tools with inserts. They're great tools but if used with hardening the part can and will warp. This is especially important with mold components
LoL this guy somehow
There are inserts designed specifically for hardened material.
Never heard of that rule. Used to work in a mold shop.
Yeah, don't jive. You can rough with whatever you want. Can you explain why?
This guy sounds like an engineer
Привет)) какое время обработки Фрезой диаметром 8?)))
Около 2 часов
@@CncFrezar и как износ пластины? спасибо за ответ ))
Ждём ещё видео)))
@@Ripple589X длится около 5-6 часов
А для чистовой обработки, фреза диаметром 8R4 подойдёт? Можно узнать, какая от неё поверхность получается? Интересно увидеть)))
What is the name of the program you use?
Cimatron
thank you :)
@@frankf.7970
не ясно как сделали отверстия под толкатели
у нас предварительно сверлили и потом на проволочной эрозии получали размер
Да👍
There'is some vacancy CNC milling operator
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
👍
Another good looking job done. It always makes me wondering when watching your videos guys why do you use such a long tools to machine not so deep pockets and you get all that tool chatter. That 20mm cutter you used looks like it's 2x longer than necessary.
You are right. But we mostly machine deep shapes, so we don't have the tool set up with a long holder.Since I'm lazy, I don't want to rebuild it :-)
I think if its not broke dont fix it. If the part is in tolerance its fine. There are enough operation changes flipping the part at 3 axis i think i would also leave the tools alone.
@@wrighty338, @CncFrezar I see you point guys, it works, we are all lazy but there is a lot of chatter on many of your jobs you share with us and it kills cutters/ inserts much faster than it should so you might see some savings in tools that you can spend to buy more tools better fit for the job though.
If they can run the tools dry for so long for such a complex toolpath I guess the chatter is acceptable. An insert costs like 3 to 8 euros, even if it breaks, well replace it
@@Orakwan yeah, "just 3-8€ times 4-5 inserts. 3-5 inserts changes and you have a new milling head. Not mentioning time to stop the machine, change and remeasure tool, rerun program. Look at the bigger picture and you will hopefully see the benefit of picking the right tool for the job. If you are a CNC operator then "well replace it, who cares" but if you run a place and productivity is the key to make money then you appreciate little improvements like that.
Big deal. Its called work and you enter numbers into a computer. Not that impressive..... donit all layout by hand and use the old bridgeport and then you can talk
A bridgport works fine, but it's nowhere near as fast, efficient, or repeatable. Why don't you show us your all-manual mold and die work, if it's no big deal?
Open up your own shop and see how faryou come with your bridgeport😂
Are you seriously yapping about how easy work quick cash is not worth it?
Other than that, there are demanding parts that require you stare at the drawings for an hour before you start. You still have to fight chatter, tooling management and how to clamp, the only thing that got easy is not slowly wanking and spinning wheels to move the spindle.
But you couldnt know, to your gay bridgeport times you never had to manufacture anything demanding, all squares and lines😂
Yeah...show us your work....we're all keen to see it...
Nice nice work I’m lucky I have a very big electromagnets instead of using vices made in France I’m from Canada