2018 Volvo S90 Long Term Review
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- Опубліковано 7 кві 2020
- This is a 2018 Volvo S90 T5 long term review. Family driven commuter car, Momentum Plus package. We live in Dallas, TX, USA and I daily drive the car a short distance (less than 10 miles) on a mix of street and highway. We have a car seat in the back and love to take this on longer road trips. Adaptive cruise control is an incredible feature that makes the miles melt away!
Our other cars are a Lexus NX200 and a Honda S2000.
0:10 Exterior walk around
0:25 Driver Position
2:09 Rear seats (long wheelbase)
4:17 Trunk room
4:47 Road Test
9:03 Pilot assist
I haven't seen many real world long-term review for this car. Thought I would post my impressions of the car since its the first generation Chinese made Volvo! - Авто та транспорт
UPDATE: Added a massive convertible Graco with her own cupholders--fits just fine. Added tint and windshield tint too. Halfway through a 3,000 mile road trip and car has been perfect, avg 32 mpg
Volvo #1 in technology satisfaction by JD Power www.autoblog.com/2020/08/19/jd-power-tech-experience-study-volvo-hyundai/
I have the S90 D5 inscription. Everything about it is top notch. LOVE IT!
Thank you so much for making these videos
I hope you find them useful! I'll keep updating the long term quality as I'm nearing 50,000 miles
I owned a 750 Li and S 550 but this car eventhough don't compete with them is top notch. Luxurious for half the price. I would recommend the T6 inscription which I just bought. Very very please with the the level of tech and safety. Kiss goodbye to my bummer and benz
Exactly! I think this was the goal for Volvo, that plus attractive styling that is modern and uniform across the platform. Its an "entry-level luxury" for US buyers. Internationally, its a luxury car though.
That is a smart move man. I wish you many miles 👍😎
I am a 2017 Volvo XC90 T6 R-Design owner and I think the newer S90's are such an underrated premium sedan. I would spec mine as a T6 Inscription with air suspension and the Bowers & Wilkins audio system (like my XC90) and the dark brown interior.
Yeah nice specs! Definitely going for a consistent update with the S60s, XC60/40 etc. If you don't need the full size SUV, this is a great large sedan!
Best s 90 review I have seen.
Well done sir!
thank you so much! Polestar 2 reviews coming soon
2:20 4.72 inch in precise. S90L is first released in China. The reason behind the wheelbase extension is primarily due to the fact that Audi A6, BMW 5 Series and Mercedes E class only provide long wheelbase version in China. So in China, the four of them are in the same category.
3:40 The Daqing Volvo Factory (China) actually have the second most advanced equipments and best build quality among all Volvo plants.
6:30 Audi A6 of the same class also is, by default, FWD. FWD is in fact safer when you run into rain and snow.
6:40 S90 only provides optional air suspension for the rear. If you don't have that, this luxury sedan would ride like a Tesla Model 3, that is very sporty and not comfortable at all.
7:08 Most SPA and CMA Volvo cars, except PHEV and EV Models (e.g. S90 t8, XC60 Recharge, XC40 BEV), sucks at providing a quiet cabin. Without any use of suppressing foams, which are toxic, the engine noise, road noise, and wind noise will certainly be obvious.
7:17 Hybrid model s90 t8 actually has a 0-96 of 4.9s. Note: the t8 model weighs over 4400lb.
9:46 The current pilot assist is most similar to the basic version of Tesla Autopilot. However, due to the limited angle of the front camera and millimetre wave cam, pilot assist can't deal with large angle turns and lanes that are not clearly marked. So definitely don't rely on it. If you want a cam approach Volvo, the refreshed XC90 actually has cam configuration that is similar to Tesla, despite none of those extra cams are utilised. If you don't have good faith in cam approach, wait for the 2022 SPA2 S90 that utilises Luminar Lidars.
Foot note: as for the noise insulation he had the screen open on the panoramic roof which makes quite a different.
hello, have you experiencing any droning noise or vibration when driving? thanks
No droning or vibration. We did a long (3,000 mile/4800 km) road trip at speeds between 60-80 mph/96-128 kmh, but the roads were very smooth, recent asphalt.
Been seeing nice examples of these cars used going for less than $20k, strongly considering one.
Yes, thats probably high miles, but get the lowest miles for 20k www.carmax.com/cars?search=Volvo+S90
Do it. I got me one. Look at my avatar
I just got a low miles S60 for about 22k. Happy with my purchase so far.
Just got this car a couple days ago for $20k and i love it
Nice car, Sir.
Thank you! Preparing for some summer road trips as we speak.
Have you ever had any issues with the front parking sensor becoming loose over time? Every 5-6k miles it falls out of it socket and I have pop it back in.
YES! I've documented it several times in my channel. Dealer didn't fix it! see my fix here ua-cam.com/video/xSKd7IeQiQ4/v-deo.html
I'm trying to buy a volvo s90 t5 momentum used you think its a good idea? How many milage does your car have?
I have just over 30,000 miles (48,000k) I think its a value car, luxury for most of the world market. Less luxury in the US. I've had reliable technology and love the interior space (car seat or adults in rear). My 2.0 gets 35+ mpg as well
Hey your videos have been very informative. I’m thinking of purchasing a 2018 Volvo s90 low mileage I’m on the fence cause this would be my first import vehicle. Are they worth it?
Appreciate it! Whats low miles? How many owners? its a very reliable vehicle thats easy to work on vs BMW/MB etc. Maybe not quite Japanese level but luxury is better
Love it! Great choice. This is a car for smart people
Haha, I like to think so. It serves a specific niche, I like it much more than a Hyundai/Genesis/Acura platform. Its not nearly as overpriced as someone leasing a 7/8/ S class either. Going to publish soon a review of interior touch points. See exactly where its held up and what to look for otherwise!
@@RonRohde Absolutely, This is one of the best used car options for people too! You can get an inscription S90 with low miles for around 30-35k. Entry cars these days are priced that high(a well equipped one anyway). This is more luxurious than most German rivals and is cheaper. just hold on to it till it dies( a decade later at least)
Buying one tomorrow.
My big concern about getting this car is about long term maintenance. What is your experience with this? I’d like to have this car for the next decade, through grad school and beyond, but I am worried about constantly needing replacement parts and paying an arm and a leg for them
I don't think we'll know that answer for another 8 years. The main drivers of repair costs seem to be popularity of the car + replacement production. And finding independent shops to do the work. That said, Volvo has never had the volume to produce cheap repairs comparable to a Honda or Toyota. I do think the smaller, "standard 2.0T" engine that is finding its way into everything will help though. Since these are new models with unknown track records, we just don't know what the future holds. If you're set of owning a car for a decade with lowest risk of running costs, better to get a Lexus ES or Camry.
Well… I considered this last week when I purchased a certified 2020 momentum with 29k miles for 34k 7 services along the way 7 years was 4,200.
Seven services are around 4,200 anything it would call for…
Yes!
I was totally blanking on "the ultimate driving machine"
How about the screens loading? Any major delays or concerns
There was a major software update for Sensus that really sped up any lag. I have only seen videos of the old lag, but I only have it lag maybe once a month.
Ron Rohde thanks for the response
I am Choon Leng from Singapore driving S90 T5 Momentum (2019).
Currently my steering wheel gets stuck every day and this is very dangerous.
The steering wheel gets stuck from 60km/h - 90km/h, particularly on rough roads and steering wheel will vibrate and causing it to stuck.
Singapore Volvo dealer cannot find the problem.
I changed all brakes and rotors but the problem is still not solved.
I may be the first in Volvo history to get this problem.
The problem may be steering wheel, drive shafts, suspensions.
That means Pay and Pay for trial and error to solve the problem.
Worse than my BMW 523i F10 (2012).
hello! thats quite scary. I haven't heard of that problem from any other owners in the US. Do you think its electric steering related? a short in the wiring? or possibly gear indicator? Those are the only situations I can think of that would cause a locked wheel.
Hi Ron, should I buy a bmw f10 or an S90? is the S90 better than the f10-Audi A6 C7-Mercedes C and E 2016 models? thanks
Thats a great question. The main differences are technology and size. My mom has a 2015 535i, and its a much sportier, regular sized sedan. It doesn't have many of the technology that my S90 has, but RWD vs. FWD.
Whats important to you?
@@RonRohde technology is quite important for me, along the interior materials and its degree of quality and durability. The thing I cannot withstand is the kind of car that gets interiors broken down after the 6th year of use.
Helpful review! How’s the car doing lately? I’m considering a precertifed one from 17 or 18.
Car has been solid. We actually just drove 1,500 miles in 3 days on our current road trip. Car performed perfectly, the comfortable seats, lumbar support was critical. I used adaptive cruise or Pilot Assist nearly the entire drive. Tank was getting 480 miles per fill up.
Ron Rohde That’s awesome! I’m glad to hear that. Here in Northeast you can get a CPO for $24-28k. So many cool features included at a good price. Plus the Volvo warranty will provide good assurance.
Hi Ron, Still have the Volvo? I have a T5 Polestar going on 76K mi. Relatively problem free! I’m starting a channel for my ‘04 LS and would be interested in your UA-cam experiences.
Yes, I do. Really meaning to do an update long(er) term review. No major mechanical issues. Front sensors and some plastic fitment is less than perfect. Feel free to email me about your channel, happy to connect/chat!
First of congrat. having a very classy car! I have a S90 D3, and have a lot of road noice from the wheels at 40 mph and over. Have you noticed the same?
Thank you! Which tires do you have? They will contribute 90% to the noise...I don't have any problem with road noise
Check your tires. Some S90 have the Volvo-customized PS4 tires with noise-cancelling foams inside. You should be able to get them at Volvo dealerships.
@@yuhufeng5370 Here's a great thread on debating foam vs no foam forums.swedespeed.com/showthread.php?621297-foam-or-nofoam-tires
@@Jkp564 oh no!
Thinking of getting a used S90. How’s ur car holding up so far ? Any major repair or fault that will cost a maintenance bomb? Considering this S90 or Lexus ES250
My car has been awesome. I need to do another 2 year update review. Few service calls, brakes, fluids, etc. The interior is holding up great (even with two kids), my worst complaint is the front bumper sensors. They come loose, I fix them, they come loose, dealer fixes them, its a little frustrating to say the least. S90 is going to be much bigger than an ES. Everything else is on par--is the Volvo cheaper? This 2.0L has been bullet proof...
@@RonRohde Thanks for the review! I'm really considering this car because of the price on a used one 26-30k and the space is great in the back. Low miles for that 26-30k range.
@@alexwensjoe Happy to help. I still daily this S90. Love it to pieces. Only car we're considering as a replacement is an XC90
@@RonRohde yeah i was looking at that one too but the S90 falls on my budget perfect. Going back today to see it!! May take it home 😄 I checked out the 5 series, Gs 350 & Genesis G80 and none have the comparable leg room like this one. My circle of friends and family are very big tall people. I need the space
@@alexwensjoe nothing in that list will compete on leg room for the rear! Its quite a roomy backseat. Its comparable to S class, 7 series, A8L, etc.
As a new father I'm into safety, but il drive one handed and film when driving , and take my eyes off the road,
Way to go , lmao
I can definitely be a safer driver! But are you always at 10 and 2? One handed is pretty normal IMO
@@RonRohde illegal here you use mobile , cell when driving.
Would your lawyer go for a driver driving into you when using a camera with your child in it . You'd go for him or her for dangerous driving
@@davidwarnes5158 where is that? In Texas we have no such laws (well, cell phone is prohibited if driving in an active school zone) we live in a free state!!! haha
@@RonRohde so why push safety in a car and do nothing . Ye ha cavalry are a coming big hat , big car small brain
@@davidwarnes5158 I will definitely drive more safely while recording videos in the future. I agree
My 2020 momentum T6 has been really flawless 31k miles. Only thing that I would recommend to Volvo would be that over uneven or rough cityscape, she freaks out- suspension acts like a Kia sometimes. Doesn’t seem as heavy as it should during..
Yes, thats great to hear. what city ? grooved concrete or potholes? Steering can definitely be light too
@@RonRohde sometimes potholes can sound like an explosion
Uneven roads it’s fine
Hi, I am looking to buy a volvo s90! But one of my concerns is the length of the car. Do you notice any difficulties trying to park it, etc? Thanks!
What city do you live in? Garages can be tight, but I rarely parallel park on the street. You'll have to rely on the parking sensors or 360 cameras to get closer to walls. If you just casually pull in, you'll notice the car sticking out. That said, I've never had frustration trying to park in Dallas, Texas
You also get used to the size of it 👍
May ask ith yous how can you lose on in if you invest in all companys
way to go Volvo
❤Volvo
Very good very solid & undeniably an executive car !
Yes! proving to be a valid contender in this space and an alternative to Japanese luxury
Agreed
Hi Ron my name is lourance and I am an Arabic doctor living in Saudi Arabia asking to porches volvo xc40 car her in meddle East , and I afraid of spare parts cost can you give advice for me
Hi Lourance, Is it a new Volvo? Reliability for late models has been very good for me. Once outside of warranty becomes somewhat unknown. The engine also matters.
Someone told me that upper slot by the cup holders is for
The keys...I bought one 2 weeks ago
hmmm, I don't think the key fits very well in there. Do you have additional keys on a ring or just the fob?
@@RonRohde if you look at the first cup holder nearest the infotainment screen you will see a picture of a key, the key is designed to fit side on between the little wings that support your cup. Difficult for me to explain in writing. In this cup holder the key is effectively turned off which prolongs the battery on your keyfob
@@FinleyESB I will check it out!!!
@@FinleyESB just posted a video trying to slot the key. Can you help?
The fact it is made in China is what puts me off.
I hear ya, lots of concerns for build quality and long term reliability, but so far its been as good as an iPhone!
2018 Bought in 2019 video made in 2021.. has 24,000 miles on it..Says daily driver.. where ? To the mailbox
hey Warren, if you're referring to this video, it was early 2020. I now have 43k miles :)
@@RonRohde oh ok. How’s it doing? Any repairs or recalls?
@@PNWBigDubz yeah, its great!! just recently out of full maintenance coverage, I have had issues with a front parking sensor coming loose. No recalls, but did have SENSUS updated for free ua-cam.com/video/MNLBofdasGQ/v-deo.html
Volvo make great cars. Way better than american cars.
haha, I agree! Nothing American right now would compete for this long wheelbase sedan!
@@RonRohde - dude, you have a sense of humour and great taste!. Respect. I have said before American cars are not particularly good and a lot of Americans became very offended. I'm glad you are not like that. I live in England and I love Volvo and Saab cars. They are the best cars.
@@RonRohde - I was thinking of buying the VW Phaeton (beautiful car and engineering miracle) instead of an S60 or S90, but the road tax for the V6, 3L diesel Phaeton is £600pa and it is insurance group 45e (about £1500 pa), which is very high. Also, fuel economy for even the V6 3L diesel Phaeton is not particularly good. Combined only about 30mpg.
@@beachboy_boobybuilder Thats also a beautiful car. What year? It would be older, right? I do think the I4 for Volvo has taxes in mind. Good luck either way!
@@RonRohde - hey dude. I found a 2012 model, but insurance and road tax is a turn off. I'm going to look at the S90 and compare running costs