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- In this episode of Hebrew Voices, Was the Last Supper a Passover Sacrifice, Nehemia Gordon and Professor Shaye Cohen of Harvard University give an overview of the Passover sacrifice from Biblical times up until the destruction of the Temple, how it evolved into the modern-day Passover Seder, and use that as a foundation for looking at the nature of the Last Supper in the New Testament.
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Yeshua showed that he was after the order of Melchizedek, who gave bread and wine to abraham.
What an amazing presentation - Thanks so very much for sharing this...
Thank you for your continued educating the masses
Thank you bro. NehemiYAH ! I find this very informative.
Great video Nechemya! Blessings from Boone Iowa 😊
thanks that was great, very enlightening and informative! is there a follow up part two?
Keep up the good work Nehemiah
I wish if this is a video not only audio blog
Thank you, Nehemia :)
The last meal of Yahshua with his disciples was held on the tenth of Aviv the weekly Sabbath before the 14 day preparation and the annual Sabbath on them15th. The Passover meal is held after sunset as the 15th begins. Yahshua had to fulfill Exodus 12:2-6 where the lamb is selected on the tenth and held until the 14th where it is killed at the same time as Yahshua died. The evening following the 3 pm sacrifice is now the 15th.
This is a very good point! However, if so, how about being rohaka? Jews were to keep hands on the head of the Pesach lamb in order to feel it suffering. That who did not do that was called rohaka, i.e. being spiritually far away from the event, and had to repeat the sacrifice next month. Did apostles know that Yeshua was to be their Pesach Lamb? Were they all rohaka since they escaped from the Cross?
Hello from Shanghai, China. I would like to add my two cents comment. It is true that the sixth day of the week in Greek it is called Paraskevi which means in the ancient and modern Greek , the time to prepare, the time for the things to be done. Regarding the Afikomen, based on my knowledge and study of ancient Greek,it is a Greek word meaning "what is left behind",. In the ancient Greek Afike means to leave , to let go. Modern Greek as replaced the k with a sigma (s) so now they say afisse. . Ancient Greek says Edoke for giving, modern Greek says edosse. The addition of men or meno or meni makes it a past tense like the one that was left. That is the best i can explain something not easy to explain.
Great topic, thanks.
Thank you.
No, Yehoshua didn’t lead a Passover Seder with his disciples on the night he was betrayed. You are right. He didn’t even have a Passover meal. No lamb or bitter herbs are mentioned. Plus the bread was leavened and he ate this meal on the night before the Pesachim were slaughtered.
Preparation Day is prior to all Sabbath days. Yahshua did not eat lamb with his taught ones. They were eating "leavened bread."
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oh yeah they ate lamb
it was the passover lamb
TorahTV you say it was the Passover lamb. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but the Passover lambs were sacrificed while Yeshua was being crucified, fact no discussion. That is why Yeshua was considered the perfect Passover lamb. Yeshua & his disciples couldn't possibly be eating the Passover lamb the evening before it was to be slaughtered. Scripture doesn't say that bitter herbs or lamb were being eaten by Yeshua or the disciples that evening. They were consuming unleavened bread & drinking wine. We need to not add unto scripture, take away from it, nor mix up the chronology. Saying the last supper was a Passover Seder is like putting a cart before a horse. It is illogical & no one is going anywhere with it. Leavened bread would probably have already been removed from most, if not all, households. The Passover Seder & the Feast of the Unleavened Bread were very important holy days. Preparations had probably been going on for some time. Preparation Day would have been the day to double check the residence for leaven, sweep it clean, & finalize preparations. No one wise waits until the last minute.
I do appreciate that people want to believe that the last supper was a Seder, but much of what people believe has to do with the traditions of men, culture, or modern Judaism in contrast to biblical instruction. We must be careful to rightly divide scripture. With so much tradition being brought up by Cohen, scripture is clearly being blurred. Nehemia, as a Karaite, is supposed to be scripture only, discarding the traditions of men.
+WatchingMyLifeFlashB actually last supper had LEAVENED bread. Artos in greek. John13:18
Not so TorahTV, because we learned that they ate leavened bread, and also, how could Yahshua fulfill Pasach on any other day? That is impossible.
I am someone who removes the leaven on Passover Day. :) There is so much to every day, so I do do it last minute.
I know that many people say it was the Passover lamb. I'm sorry to burst their collective bubbles, but the Passover lambs were sacrificed while Yeshua was being crucified, fact no discussion. That is why Yeshua was considered the perfect Passover lamb. Yeshua & his disciples couldn't possibly be eating the Passover lamb the evening before it was to be slaughtered. Scripture doesn't say that bitter herbs or lamb were being eaten by Yeshua or the disciples that evening. They were consuming unleavened bread & drinking wine. We need to not add unto scripture, take away from it, nor mix up the chronology. Saying the last supper was a Passover Seder is like putting a cart before a horse. It is illogical & no one is going anywhere with it. Leavened bread would probably have already been removed from most, if not all, households. The Passover Seder & the Feast of the Unleavened Bread were very important holy days. Preparations had probably been going on for some time. Preparation Day would have been the day to double check the residence for leaven, sweep it clean, & finalize preparations. No one wise waits until the last minute.
I do appreciate that people want to believe that the last supper was a Seder, but much of what people believe has to do with the traditions of men, culture, or modern Judaism in contrast to biblical instruction. We must be careful to rightly divide scripture. With so much tradition being brought up by Cohen, scripture is clearly being blurred. Nehemia, as a Karaite, is supposed to be scripture only, discarding the traditions of men.
WatchingMyLifeFlashB I disagree. I think the last supper dinner was Nissan 14 Thursday evening. after the dinner Jesus went to the mt. of Olives to pray and early morning he was arrested and crucified which was Friday. Then Friday before sundown Sabbath was coming they have to put the body of Jesus in the tomb because it's going to be Sabbath, no work.
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Nisan 14 is commanded to remove all the leaven. The last supper had LEAVENED bread artos, (john13:18) therefore it was on the 13th.
No you are not correct. That idea is only based on the Gospel of John, however the Synoptic's all say it WAS the evening of the 15th of Nisan and was therefore a Passover Seder. Sorry mate. Three VS One!
Three Gospels in the Bible SAY IT WAS PASSOVER EVENING, one does not.
The three Gospels do not record the entire meal in dotpoint form, they simply record what the Authors thought was important (because it was what Jesus altered). The sharing of the Matzos bread and the Drinking of the Third Cup, with the altered meaning Jesus gave to these sections of the meal.
Its been pointed out that the bread they were eating at the last supper was, in greek 'arton' which is ordinary bread. the command is to get rid of all leaven before the first day of matza so this could have been part of the big clean up.
What does twilight mean? Between the two evenings. The Passover meal is to be eaten between the two evenings or at Twilight.
The three Synoptic Gospels say "Yes it was a Passover Seder", the Gospel of John says it was the day beforehand, but most historians believe the chronology of the Synoptic gospels was more accurate than John, due to John being written much later on. The Synoptic's say it was a Passover Seder.
the writer of jhon had a teological agenda.
Our Messiah was the Lamb who died on the same day as the Passover lamb and could not eat the same lamb
there is no lamb, so can't be a seder. if it's pesach, he can't messiah.
Great episode! I listened to it twice already. Funny how people impose modern practices on the 1st Century people without knowing what they actually did. Not blaming them, I didn't know any better either. I have to tell you Nehemia, one thing I've learned from you over the years is to not "assume" things in the text of the Bible. If it doesn't say something don't put that in. If it does say something, don't leave it out to fit your beliefs. I have always been bothered that the word for "bread" eaten at the last supper was "artos" which many say is "leavened bread". But I think you guys brought out what I think has to be true. It was Passover time and Unleavened Bread time, no Jew would have had leavened bread for the meal that close to the feast days. Not a huge thing, but I think it takes something away from Yeshua and his disciples if we think they would not be "observant" enough to have gotten the leaven out by then. It doesn't bother me that it was not a seder. I do find it very odd that it is repeatedly called the Passover meal - in the different gospel accounts. Yeshua had them prepare for the Passover meal. Did not one of his disciples point out that it was a day too early ?!! I can't believe that. Either Yeshua knew exactly what he was doing, and it was "biblically okay" to eat the Passover at the end of the 13th (start of the 14th of Aviv), or there was some other practice they had in that time period that fit the criteria mentioned in the gospels. I always appreciate your insights and work. I like this professor Cohen - sounds like a funny guy and very informative. YEHOVAH bless you and keep you both! Gregg
Jesus and the disciples did not eat the Passover at the end of 13th (Thursday) at night it is on the 14th of Friday eve. The time of Day in Jewish it begin at sunset/twilight that mean the first day of 14th begin at night, unlike in Gentile calendar it begin on sunrise the beginning of Day (-light).
Interesting idea on whether the Disciples noticed that the Passover meal was one day off......Probably they were so amazed by how rapidly things were moving in their lives that they rightly prepared for a meal, and then as the meal developed got the symbolism and significance either then or later. I'm still mulling over how so many things happened in such a short time. Glad to know that Nehemia and Professor Cohen agree that the Last Supper was not a Seder.
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@@yowwwwie The reason Nehemiah and Dr. Cohen do not believe that Yeshua's meal was Pesach is because it does not agree with their pre-conceived ideas and Jewish traditions that relegate the Pesach meal to the evening (beginning) of the 15th of the Abib. Moses clearly states that the Pesach was to be offered on the 14th and eaten on THAT NIGHT (the 14th) and that on THAT NIGHT (the 14th) YHVH would 'pass-over'. Furthermore, they were COMMANDED to remain inside their dwellings THAT NIGHT (the 14th) until daybreak. The Torah also clearly states that it wasn't until the following evening (the 15th), the First High-Day of Unleavened Bread, that He, YHVH, began to bring their armies, Yisrael's, out of the land of Egypt BY NIGHT!
And if a clear and simple reading of the Torah, without the added Jewish tradition, isn't enough for you to understand that THE PESACH (the sacrifice, the meal, and the event) was on the 14th, then you also have the example of YESHUA HIMSELF who clearly said that the meal He prepared and had WAS A PESACH SACRIFICE AND MEAL multiple times in several Gospel accounts, and that He held that symbolic sacrifice and meal on the EVENING BEGINNING THE 14TH OF ABIB approximately 20 hours before BECOMING IT!
Follow Yeshua and not Rabbinic or Karaite Jewish traditions!
@@michaelstaggs1880 hello Michael...huge family secret that I found out when I had my DNA>>>>I am a woman of Hebrew matriarchal descent. So, being a good Catholic-Hebrew hybrid I am still open to studying and learning.
God Bless,
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I was put off a little with this work your doing Nehemiah... your awesome teachings freed me from Christian/ jesus slavery and brought me to truth in Judaism. For a while I was yelling at my screen "why continue working with these Christians!, they will end up hating you soon since your not converting to jesus! " thank you though brother you opened my eyes to Torah..... hopefully more sincere followers of Yehovah will drop the Hellenic religion for Judaism. May Yehovah bless you and keep you safe! Thank you for doing what so many can't!
Those i know of who reject yeshua later also end up forsaking Yehovah.
Yeshua lived torah and tought thousands of jews to be faithful to torah and healed them in the power of Yehovah your healer, while opposing the hijacking of rabbis who's doctrines add to and take away from torah.
Rejecting Yeshua is spilling the blood of the innocent.
Yes, the church is bad and even some of his disciples were idiots. He knew that while working with them. It doesn't mean he was bad.
Bob Irving stop worshiping a man.
bigjoeflashy he was the word of Yehovah made flesh
As a Catholic (convert) I find Nehemia's inquiry into biblical sources Universal, hopeful and blessed. I do not care about changing anything about him. Your religion should be one of the best things about you.
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There was NO lamb at that meal , It was only bread and wine .
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It is a struggle, for some, to think that certain people who knew Yahshua is Moshiach intimately then and do so also to this day, that he did make complete the shadow picture of our Exodus, that he pretty much became a human sacrifice of pagan Rome, approved by religious Jews, that he didn't eat pasach that year, because if so, then he could not have made complete that picture on that very day. (Rood does the best teaching on this by far), and that Yahshua was exactly 3 nights and three days in the tomb beginning with the night everyone was eating lamb, bitter herbs, and unleavened bread, all pointing to that fulfillment, and knowing that no Jew, even a bad one who is trying to save face (Juds Ascariat), would go out to buy anything on the High Sabbath which is when the lamb was eaten with "unleavened bread," and knowing that our Scriptures tells us that they ate "leavened bread" at that last supper. WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO GRASP?
Looking at a a Hebrew day, it certainly seems like the very 1st hour of the day after sunset is twilight. For educational purposes, How can we prove or disprove this?
Nehemiah, please tell us what is written in the, Hebrew text, of the book of Matthew regarding Yeshua's time with his disciples in the upper room. I'm very interested in learning that.
In George Howard's Hebrew Gospel of Matthew, it uses the Hebrew word לחם (lechem) in Matthew 26:26, which according to Strong's H3899 is usually translated as "bread."
The last supper was done Tuesday evening on the 13th.
I know this is kind of off subject but does baking powder count as leaven?
sarah wieder In my house, it is considered leaven. I can not speak for all homes.
Sarah Wieder, yes, but, apparently, there has been a kosher for Pasach form available for many years. I, personally, cannot justify it as I believe the point of the command is to not cause the product to rise, but many Rabbis interpret it as not having any "grain-based" leavening agents.
Some say the hebrew words specifically mean yeast and bread that was raised by it, so if the bread fluffs from just cooking, or air, or another reason it is ok
Bob Irving, that is interesting. I'll have to look into that. I forgot to add that I think adding egg white, etc. Is ok. This is how many people lighten a heavy recipe, just a little. I do, however, remain skeptical about adding seltzer water to lighten Matzo ball mix.
It is simple to know. Exodus 12 explains Passover begins the night of the 14th of Nissan which begins not only Passover but the sabbath on that calendar. The lamb was to be chosen and brought to the priest for inspection on the 10th of Nissan kept for 4 days and slaughtered by 3 PM on the 14th, begin roasting before the sabbath and consumed totally during the Seder (Means order: reciting of the exodus story) next evening. Begins the week of unleavened bread! No Chametz (Leaven is not to be in a Jewish home or consumed during this time). Jesus rode into Jerusalem on the 10th on a Ass and to face scrutiny by the religious leaders, tried and put to death and buried on the 14th before the sabbath comes. He died at 3 pm per the scriptures. The Last supper had to take place the evening of the 13th - they did not observe Law of Pesach per Exodus 12, Leviticus 23 or Numbers 9! He introduced the washing of feet and the Eucharist to be included with the new law of loving everyone in his name!
The Eucharist as it is practiced by R.C. today was introduced in the 13th century at the Fourth Lateran Council.
I agree with all of what you said expect for Jesus implementing foot washing and the Lords Super as a perpetual sacrament. The text just does not support that. If you want to practice those that way because it brings in closer to God, go ahead, but Jesus did not command them and they do not earn salvation of play any part, the passover feast plays the sale role in Christianity as it did for the Jews, it is a remembrance of the past and a celebration of God. Jesus was the final passover lamb.
I'd love more videos on the Jewish traditions throughout the centuries on the Feasts Days. Can't find anyone doing something similarly or I just don't know where to look.
I’ve also heard The Last Supper was a chagiga?
That painting (is it form Leonardo da Vinci)always give me a smile as the bread in this painting are like leavened loaves which could not have been if they were doing the Passover Seder. It also shows daylight in the background, which again the seder should have been at night.
That is funny. I never looked at that.
And that these people are pale skinned. That should give it away that these are not native Yisraelites and that is not ha’Mashiyach.
Question is, who are these people?
who told you the painting was true to holy scripture
Nehemia, again absolutely great, and again you don't know it but you will be at our house for Shabbat meal some time in the near future. Yes, here in Jerusalem. I am M.R.s friend. See you soon brother.
Are you saying that when we were captive in babylon with no temple, that we didn't celebrate passover with the feast of unleavened bread? I find that difficult to believe.
Nice discussion; However how do you sidestep Yeshua and his most likely observance of the 'fast of the first born'. As well as square the legal Priestly precepts with the Gospel accounts of his prosecution (IE: how could they have been conducted on the day following the 1st Seder Dinner by a very observant Priesthood)
YeHoVaH Bless ..
I've heard that the word for bread could technically be used for leaven or unleavened.
And another word was specifically unleavened bread.
That is true. In hebrew lechem is bead (can also be food in general or any kind of bread). The hebrew word matza is unleavened bread.
This is Greek, not Hebrew.
@@nickjane8079 same apply to the Greek word artos. Artos means bread in general, can be leaven or unleavened. Artos is used in LXX for the showbread that we know it was unleavened.
only bread without yeast. nothing more
so this is probably a picky little observation: If the whole point of eating unleavened bread is because from the flight from Egypt, they did not have time for the bread to rise, that does not necessarily mean the leaven had not been added. If it was added, then kept too long and not baked after rising, the rising gasses would have dissipated after enough time had elapsed, the bread dough would collapse, and it would end up kind of like a pita bread after baking. So is the prohibition against having the leaven in the house, is that biblical or priestly in nature?
It’s Biblical that no leaven is to be found in your house.
Shalom! Exodus 12:24 indicates that placing the blood of the sacrifice on the lentil and doorposts was an ordinance forever I thought... your thoughts? Shalom!
No, it was a one time deal. Reread the purpose of it.
According to scripture the slaughter and eating of the lamb of Passover occured on Nisan 14 (sundown ended a old day and marked a new day to sundown repeating the cycle) .
There were also immediately after the Passover meal, a simple celebration of only wine and unleavened bread. This was the new meal that Yahoshua set in place and told the disciples to commemorate.
communion is pagan. it was invented to take away the passover
@@marcusgomez3307 Yes! Thank you for that information.
The 14 th didn't begin until after sundown and the lamb was killed at twilight or * "between the two evenings". It continued to be the 14th until sundown the following evening. Jesus was tried in the morning and died on the same day he ate the Passover, Nisan 14. He was also was entombed after his death before sundown on Nisan 14.
John Tingle, so this confirms that the last Passover supper which is Nisan 14 was Thursday evening, and the next day which was Friday, which Christ died in the afternoon. Before, Nisan 15 comes which is Friday evening Sabbath day, they have to hurry down the body of our Lord Yeshua before Sabbath begins, right?
Not Friday! Check out the sign of Yonah!
Yes. Finally the Truth.
The last supper was the Messiah's passover cultic meal where he instituted the meaning of his sacrifice upon the typology of the passover seder
How does the sacrificial Lamb eat the Passover lamb
Does that means that during the 40 years that the israelites were in the desert, they were doing the passover sacrifice? And if it does, where does it says?
I do not believe that Yeshua's Last Supper was a Passover meal of any sort. He died during the Passover sacrifice the following day. There is much more symbolism involved in the Last Supper that is related to Chag Matzot, but that meal wasn't Passover.
He was the Passover sacrifice, hence the lamb of God.שת בנ־אברהם
Deals Durban - He said "I am the bread of life" for a reason. Like the bread is without leaven - so was He without sin. As it is usally pierced, so was his body - and as the bread is set at the start of day 15 - so was his body laid in tomb on that exact time.
"I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world." John 6:51
Deals Durban actually His body was raised in incorruption, it was raised in glory and in power, and finally it was raised a spiritual body to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. For Christ has not entered the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us.(Hebrews9v24). If you remember, Hebrews10-there was always a reminder of sins every year, for it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins. The Father did not desire nor had pleasure in them so the Father prepared a body for Jesus, because He is without blemish. When you sacrificed for sin atonement you weren't suppose to pick any lamb, bull or goat it was to be the best of the flock hence Christ among men was sinless thus after resurrecting He told Mary do not cling to Me for I have not yet ascended to My Father. Christ is the first of mankind to attain that of which we are promised, to become as He, Gods if we endure to the end.
Totally agree ,The last supper was on the 13th of the moon ,And Yahushua was crucifeid on the 14th , He ( HA, MASHIACH ) knew he would not be at the passover ,because He was the passover lamb .
Interesting ...I've always wondered because He said"I DESIRED to eat the Passover with you"...almost as if,He "Couldn't"...???
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These guys are teaching against Moshe and YHWH. Throughout your generations! How about that part? Yeah. Temple isn't in the commandment. The temple got torn down twice. Strangely, Pesach remained since it is an eternal commandment but temples (which get filled with perverts and then torn down) are never mentioned in the commandment. What happened when we had a mishkan in Shiloh. No temple there. 🤔
It could not have been Friday! Check the sign of Yonah!
I wonder, if the Pesach lamb is a 'sacrifice.' Is it in the text??
it should be slauthered, but a sacrifice?????
Yikes ! ..When The Temple was destroyed, (not a stone left upon another), it was not only the ‘infrastructure’ that was gone, but what that represented... the very presence of God Himself. Perhaps instead of remodeling the Passover, they might have given the Messiah second look.
Victoria Layrisse the temple wall is still there. Nice try
How can, (on Aviv 14) the people sacrifice the lamb/goat at 3:00 p.m.? Because when evening approached, it ushered in Aviv 15? If they were to remain in their homes till morning (as was commanded), that means that they left at night or evening on Aviv 16? However, the scriptures say, “They set out from Rameses in the first month, on the fifteenth day of the first month. On the day AFTER the Passover...That means they left on the Feast of Unleavened Bread which is Aviv 15. Therefore, they sacrificed the lamb when Aviv 14 began, which was right after Aviv 13 ended. THAT was why Yahshua followed the original time frame set by Yahveh in Exodus 12:6. Since they “kept it from the 10th till the 14th” obviously when Aviv 13 turned to Aviv 14, they obviously followed the command to “kill it at twilight.” That is what it means in Hebrew, “between the TWO evenings” that is, Aviv13 and Aviv 14. To sacrifice the lamb at 3:00 pm is NOT logical...impossible.
What day was Jesus Crucified and when was He placed in the Tomb?
A question on the time line for the crucifixion of Jesus. If we take the Gospels of Matthew Mark and Luke the following order of events is revealed:-
On the 10th day of Nissan Jesus made His Triumphal Entry into Jerusalem.
Matt 21:1 - 17, Mark 11:1 - 11, Luke 19:28 - 46
On this same day Jesus cleanses the Temple (Matt and Luke) but Mark has it on the next day.
The 11th day, Jesus curses the Fig Tree.
Matt 21:18 - 19, Mark 11:12 - 14
The 12th day
In the morning Peter commented that the Fig Tree had withered away. Mark 11:20 - 24...
This is the same comment stated in Matt 21:20 - 22 but dose not clarify it was in the morning after the curse...
Jesus leaves the Temple and predicts the destruction of Jerusalem Matt 24:1 - 2 just after His comment on the widow's two mites Mark 13:1 - 2 Luke 21:5 - 6. This would possibly be the end of the day and the Mount of Olives discourse on the signs of the times and the end of the age came that night or the next day. Matt 24:3 to 25:46 Mark 13:3 - 37 Luke 21:7 - 36
The 13th day the plot to kill Jesus. "You know that after two days is the Passover, and the Son of Man will be delivered up to be crucified" Matt 26:2. Day 1 the 13th and day 2 the 14th.
And the chief priests and elders plotted to take Jesus and kill Him but they said, "Not during the feast, lest there be an uproar among the people" Matt 26:3 - 5 Mark 14:1 - 2 Luke 22:1 - 2
The Anointing at Bethany Matt 26:6 - 13 Mark 14:3 - 9
The 14th day Passover
Preparation for the Passover and the start of the meal. Matt 26:17 - 30 Mark 14:12 - 26 Luke 22:7 - 38
It is now the 15th day and the 1st day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread and Jesus is still alive and at liberty so what did I get wrong? Can Jesus in some way be both dead and alive at the same time.
The Gospel of John 19:14 states "And it was the preparation of the Passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!"
If this was the day of the crucifixion then it must be early in the morning because:-
Matthew 27:45 "Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour." Mark 15:33 "And when the sixth hour was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour." And Luke 23:44 "And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour." All state that at the sixth hour it went dark so this must have been at least 12 hours after John 19:14 as Jesus hung on the cross for three hours before it went dark. But Jesus lives for another three hours into the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, again no preparation day burial.
The problem is not an apparent contradiction but a lack of understanding of all the events that take place around the Passover and the Feast of Unleavened Bread. The killing of the Passover Lamb and the preparation for the meal is done on the 14th day of the month but there is another Day of Preparation when the High Priest goes out into the fields and binds a sheath that will be cut down for the Wave Offering on the morning after the High Sabbath. This day would normally be a Friday unless the Passover Lamb was killed on a Friday then it would be on the Thursday as Friday would be a ceremonial sabbath the seventh day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread.
I believe the last supper was the traditional feast/fast of the Firstborn, which was referred to as the “last supper”. This was the last meal eaten until the Passover meal, to commemorate Yah’s deliverance of the firstborn in Egypt. As a first born, it would have been Yeshua’s responsibility to host the meal. It couldn’t have been a Passover meal because they ate leavened bread at the meal and could not have eaten lamb because the lambs were not yet slain.
,where can we find the historical reference to the feast of the firstborn ?
@@chadashkraniak4701 You can do an internet search for Fast of the Firstborn. I believe Chabad.org has info on it, as well as many other sites. Interesting for sure.
@@abba2me That is interesting. I have not heard of that before. Does this fast however derive from the Talmud (Soferim 21:3). Its interesting that Yeshua and his disciples would be undertaking this.
So,... The "BHD's" "Preparation Day" would be correct. Todah!
John 19: 14
YES. those who published the bible changed the Passover meal to the last supper
Strange discussion. There is no necessary connection between the Pascal sacrifice and the temple or Jerusalem. The Passover stands on its own.
I wonder if these guys are Reed Sea or Red Sea guys.
LUKE 22 ... they eat it 🤦🏻♂️
After all we know today, why is there still a question of rather the so called Last Supper is Passover? Yeshuah stated plainly what it is and it is incumbent upon us to listen to Him and try to find out WHY. So then we know that this shadow picture IS IN FACT Passover kept in the same 24 hour period as when the lamb was slain. HINT: There are therefore two passovers. WHY? Another HINT: There are two trees of life in the garden. WHY? The answer IS the answer!! Blessed be our God and savior for His mercy and grace for when we still had murder in our hearts, He still died for us!
Gen 1:14 and Amos 8:5 shows us that the biblical calendar of YaH is according to the planets. Not any pagan calendar with pagan named days.
Josephus and Phillo both agree with the calendar that goes along with Amos. Any child could know when a sabbath would end. If it’s a morning to evening or evening to evening, anybody can know when it’s over. But in Amos they did not.
In between the months are days not counted in the 30 day month. There would be 4 sabbaths per month at the looking up at His planets according to Gen 1:14. If the month starts at a crescent 🌙 and ends on a sabbath then there is a day or two until the next crescent moon that could have been called The New Moon Festival, between the months. A long sabbath.
Josephus as a historian also says the 15th is the middle of the month at the full moon at its brightest.
As for the problem with the Passover and unleavened bread issue....
If we look at the Renewed Covenant ( cut the meat/heart/foreskin/hymen/ birth canal/sacrifice/ monthly cycle of a woman) scripture.... Our Messiah died on Pesach, Messiah sacrificed on only the cleansed alters.
The body had to be taken down before sabbath, mankind after the blood covenant has 7 days as a thousand years to be sinless.
Then on the 3rd day is the wave offering representing His resurrection.
This altogether is 8 days not including preparation day before Pesach as the disciples also prepared before the lamb is slaughtered on the day of Pesach.
If it is evening to evening, then Messiah did the Seder that evening on the 14th day of the first month when the barley is abib from the (usually February) rain, then in the later evening taken and beaten and that late afternoon was hung on the TREE( almond maybe?) and taken down before the first day of unleavened bread and sabbath, also shown in Acts 20.
In Acts 20:7 ; the word WEEK is actually plural Sabbaths. It’s the first day of unleavened bread which is the first sabbath for the countdown to Shavuot( Pentecost). In Acts 20 Pesach is over and not mentioned. They are separate holidays, likely because Pesach is the day we are brought into blood covenant with Messiah by Our Messiah and no leaven on that day either.
Then the 7 days unleavened bread depicts being forever without sin. Yeast represents sin. They went the entire 40 years without yeast and told not to bring the yeast of the nations back into the camp after crossing over.
Unfortunately they rejected Messiah ( Rock) who was with them in the wilderness and seen face to face in the wilderness as per 1 Corinthians 10.
Messiah is the Angel ( King) of the Lord(YHWH)...and so actually He is King YHWH seen face to face.
Much Ahabah! And Shalom Shalom..perfectness, wholeness and completeness in YaH! ...whose mind is stayed on THEE (YHWH)!
Hugs! And a Holy KISS! My Mishpacha!
No Mask! Revelation 9 and Revelation 18...sorcery is pharmaceuticals!
The nations are deceived by sorcery and sorcerers will NOT NOT NOT inherit the kingdom of heaven!
The City of Neom is Daniel 11:45 and Revelation 17 and 18. We must not be deceived.
The tabernacle will be built BUT... The City of David where the tabernacle was, is owned by the wicked parasite elitist Rothchilds.
Which makes sense in prophetic passages that Hasatan could get away with going in and ending the Holy days and sacrifice in the future, just like Constantine did in the 300’s.
And Antiochus Epiphanies also did, showing a picture of Hasatan trying to steal Salvation from all mankind, which is prophecy in our exposed and hidden history and repeating itself.
Thank you for YaH showing you these wonderful writings!
It makes me upset that Constantine followers could put a stamp of ownership on YaH’s Set Apart Words. But I’m thoroughly glad that the Hebrew crossed over Words are being revealed!
Thank you for looking for them! We are all being Blessed!
1Corinthians5:7-8
(Apostle Paul tells a grafted-in formerly-gentile church)
"Yeshua is our Passover Lamb.
Therefore LET US KEEP the festival...."
But how? Is the question I have after 70AD.
Test Paul.
5:32 lev 23. it is quite clear that the lamb was sacrificed in the afternoon on passover (nisan 4) and eaten on the evening of the15th of nisan, which is the first day of observance of the seven-day commanded of eating of unleavened bread. jesus had his meal with the apostles on the night of passover. he became our passover lamb the next day and breathed his last in mid-afternoon of passover day while the passover lambs were being slaughtered. so what he had was not the passover meal which was to be eaten on the first day of unleavened bread, nisan 15 the night after his last meal with his disciples, nisan 14. note jesus did not use the lamb which he was a symble of but used instead the bread which according to the greek was "artos" leavened, not "azumos" unleavened. he could not have the lamb during that meal because the lambs were still to be sacrificed the next day, the day declared by god as the passover.
i am totally convinced that our lord's last supper which we are enjoined to do as often as we can was separate and distinct from the passover meal which god commanded to be observed once a year. i still have not found a study that would satisfactorily explain why we should observe the seder, a jewish developed custom. i believe we need to observe the lord's supper on the night of passover and do this memorial as often during the rest of the year; and, just continue to eat the commanded unleavened bread every day for seven days after the day of passover.
Jesus, knowing that he will die, said, when you do the sacrifice at the altar and remember that you have problems with your neighbor... Hence, he did not mean the sacrifices to cease.
Both Christian, Messianic, and Jews are arguing about keeping the commandment because of a missing temple. Now, temples both got destroyed yet they kept Passover at both. So how does it go away when these people and history clearly show that these people have gone and eaten the leaven of the Pharisees. Keep the passover. "Throughout your generations".
@@jukeboxhero1649 let's look at history. What happened with the sacrifice between the first and second temple?
Also Jesus said no commandment will fade away until the earth pass, hence sacrifice must continue. Also he said to do everything Moses commanded...
@@radostinvasilev599 I agree with you 110%. And, the scriptures plainly state what you wrote. I just finished doing Passover here at my house and I had a lamb and we roasted him on the fire he was an intact male one year old or almost a year and I made matzah and had bitter herbs and my nephew even came I thought I was going to be alone but it's better to obey there's more in that than there is in a song or a sacrifice or any other activity
@@jukeboxhero1649 i went yesterday to jewish passover seder as there's nothing else in darwin, australia. I told them im not jew and im christian, and they didn't mind me. It was interesting.
@@radostinvasilev599 you have many sheep and you can do a real Passover. Also, Passover represents Yeshua the Messiah so it should be clear to anyone with an open mind. You know that one day ol Satan will get flung to earth and go out to make war on those have the testimony of Yeshua and keep the Commandments of YHWH. Yeshua bless you and make you twice as strong this year in his word in faith and in the gifts that He has given you and also that you may acquire more gifts and that no one can argue with you because your testimony is solid and let every enemy that tries to rise against you be turned back before he comes near you and that you will enjoy the visitation of the Holy Spirit of Yeshua twice as frequently this year, my brother!
God is not the destroyer, neither decieves or entices.. He permits/allows/removes the hedge of protection so He takes responsibility but others do it.. what did He do with the blood of the lamb.. He protected. Guarded, covered the houses.. so the destroyer can not enter in..
Did Yeshua eat lamb or no?
No temple needed for the 12-day-spring-moed blood...Deut.15:23 ,Only thou shalt not eat the blood thereof; thou shalt pour it upon the ground as water....As David did, start the sacrifice shortly after sundown the 13th, killing it in the OTHER evening of the 14th leaves no cooking time.
No such thing as a one day Matzah-fest, a 7 day Matzah-fest, NOR an 8 day event but rather 12.
Yeshuah came into Jerusalem on Aviv 10 n His disciples all asked where to go to prepare, totally logical n done just as commanded.
Nehemia, I once heard you make a comment that you thought Yeshua could’ve been Karaite. But have you heard that arguments that Yeshua was a rabbinic Jew? The first century was so messy. Seems like a hodge podge of many different “christianities” and “Judaisms” and I’m trying to figure out the boundaries. Today, Christians don’t keep Passover. However, the Jewish followers of Yeshua did keep Passover. I dont think the gentiles ever kept Passover. I know this might be far fetched, but possibly the Seder came from the Jews who followed Yeshua?
As a Christian, I disagree with most of my Christian brothers and sisters about this event. I do not believe Jesus was eating the Pasach meal that evening. Many reasons, but I think the most obvious is that He was crucified on a day that was NOT "Sabbath", but the next day was described as "Sabbath". Passover was a High Sabbath, and was celebrated as that, no matter what day it fell on. (I also disagree that He was crucified on a Friday--gross misunderstanding by the Christian church about what a "Sabbath" is...) Throw in that the Jewish leaders specifically did NOT want to do their deed "during the feast" so as not to upset the people, and other details, and it is clear to me that Jesus/Yeshua, AS the Pasach Lamb (not meaning to offend, just stating my own faith beliefs) was crucified on the day that all other Pasach lambs would have been slain, the day before the Passover feast (would have happened that evening, the next day). Thanks for this, Nehemia and Shaye!
Why wouldn't it be?
Because a Seder meal is not written anywhere in the Bible...
Matthew 12:40 says Christ was in the earth 3 days and 3 nights, like Jonah was in the belly of the whale--before the first day of the week. So, this "Preparation Day" would have had to be in the middle of the week. In 27ad or 30ad Nisan 14 was on a Wednesday, which would have been the evening the lamb is slaughtered. Exodus 12 doesn't say they eat the lamb on the 15th, it says you eat it at night and leave none left until the morning. It does say the lamb is slain on the 14th. In the Bible--NOT Jewish Tradition--the day begins at dawn. So, Christ rose on the Sabbath. The Passover observance was all about an evening / night observance because that is when the angel of death came out and killed the first born of Egypt and Jews with blood on the door post were saved. That preparation day for the High Day was on a Wednesday before evening. This is why Christ's body was prepared in a hurry and placed in the tomb that evening.
Why would Constantine outlaw the Holy Days and seventh day Sabbaths of Leviticus 23 if they stopped doing them in 70 AD? He wouldn’t have outlawed them, he would not have had a reason.
It’s Marcionism...the spirit of Marcion is alive and well...😢
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Yes, ultimately!
Well, Actually ultimately it’s satan.
Constantine ended the Lev 23 Holy Days and murdered anyone celebrating them, like the anti messiah will do in the tabernacle after it’s built.
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Then maybe you can explain why in the 1000 year reign there is still animal sacrifice in Zachariah 14?
And how is it that Paul came back for the Holy Days more than once doing Nazarite vows and giving the offerings which include animal sacrifice for the Nazarite vows to prove that he was keeping Torah in Acts 21 and also Acts 18.
And why in the TaNaK He said several times that He never preferred sacrifice, He would rather that we did not sin at all and offer things like thanksgiving( fruit) ?
How is it He never changed and shares all was the same in the wilderness as it is now in 1 Corinthians 10?
The angel ( King ....or some people in Israel in modern Hebrew say Messenger) YHWH(Lord) is seen face to face, receives worship and sacrifice, brought them out of Egypt with a mighty hand, in the burning bush and etc...He was rejected in the wilderness and the good news He declared to them they rejected.
When Messiah said they err in the Scripture, not knowing the Scripture, which scripture was He sharing about or that they could have already known?
The NT did not exist yet. Only the TaNaK scripture was available.
And Messiah is taking a Nazarite vow right now, and it seems He will end it when He comes, and I’m not sure but I believe all of us will take one before going into His kingdom.
Please research and answer these questions for yourself, if it says that He never changes then He never changes.
His marriage covenant and plan of salvation is in every cut the meat covenant. It never changed, He accomplishes it, but He has never changed it.
We will show up for 3 Holy Days in His reign, Unleavened Bread, Shavuot, and Tabernacles.
Actually in Acts 21, the word in verse 7 says WEEK but it is actually better understood as plural SABBATHS. They are doing the counting of the 7 Sabbaths from unleavened bread to Pentecost. Not changing the Sabbath to the first day on a pagan Gregorian calendar made up by men. ( Any man made preconceived calendar is pagan.)
Gen 1:14 says the Planets are for His moeds. The calendar that Josephus, Phillo and the Essenes are the only one that explains Amos 8:5 the New Moon Festivals between the months ( long Sabbath) searching for the crescent moon, it seems.
Because if they are wanting to know when sabbath ends it’s simple if it was the Lev 23 Holy Days or if it is from a sunset to sunset or morning til night.
Anyone can figure that out. But from a sabbath of the last month on the 29 th day and searching for the crescent moon to come then no one knows when, we must look up and trust YaH fully for His answer.
When YaH said get up and go, it was spontaneous and His people were to be ready at all times!
Even in the middle of the night.
We must be prepared to listen and obey Him.
Full Trust!
Do Not Trust Man! Especially these days.
Like sorcery pharmaceuticals in the end of Rev 18 that the leaders deceive even the very elect on.
If we do not stand and obey Him then we are lukewarm and lawless and He will spew us from His mouth.
The reason Nehemiah and Dr. Cohen do not believe that Yeshua's meal was Pesach is because it does not agree with their pre-conceived ideas and Jewish traditions that relegate the Pesach meal to the evening (beginning) of the 15th of the Abib. Moses clearly states that the Pesach was to be offered on the 14th and eaten on THAT NIGHT (the 14th) and that on THAT NIGHT (the 14th) YHVH would 'pass-over'. Furthermore, they were COMMANDED to remain inside their dwellings THAT NIGHT (the 14th) until daybreak. The Torah also clearly states that it wasn't until the following evening (the 15th), the First High-Day of Unleavened Bread, that He, YHVH, began to bring their armies, Yisrael's, out of the land of Egypt BY NIGHT!
And if a clear and simple reading of the Torah, without the added Jewish tradition, isn't enough for you to understand that THE PESACH (the sacrifice, the meal, and the event) was on the 14th, then you also have the example of YESHUA HIMSELF who clearly said that the meal He prepared and had WAS A PESACH SACRIFICE AND MEAL multiple times in several Gospel accounts, and that He held that symbolic sacrifice and meal on the EVENING BEGINNING THE 14TH OF ABIB approximately 20 hours before BECOMING IT!
Follow Yeshua and not Rabbinic or Karaite Jewish traditions!
Yeshua Was Not 'the passover lamb' Which
Wasn't Meant For Taking Away Sin.
Again the word Pessach in my opinion and study is a modern rendition of the word Pascha. Flavius Josephus the Jewish historian call it this way (Pascha) and the Greeks still today calls is this way. Many countries in the world call this time of the year (Pascal in french for example). and not Pessach. We have to remember that in ancient time the Hebrew had no vowels and were later added to make hebrew simpler to read.. The Jewish world in the diaspora not knowing enuoght hebrew used the greek language to communicate, it was the first language of the time. I believe, again ( my own opinion) the greek reading of the hebrew words are more close to the original hebrew than what the masoretic translilteration gives as to reading. Again my own opinion. A and O are often used in one way or the other. (i.e. Kasher with Kosher. Shalom with Sholom, etc..)
This and more controversies have been unveiled by the most new servant of YAH. i am Cemir Torres and I wrote a book titled: Me Against the religious World on the Sign of Jonah by Cemir Torres, there and with out contradictions or ignoring verses, the real truth about this so called: the Lords Passover and the three days and three nights have being revealed clear as crystal and plain as day light, Peace to you and let's all come out of lies so we can worship the Father in Spirit and a truth.
They sacrificed animals before Moses and the temple.
Simple answer Last Supper was the night BEFORE the Passover meal. They were preparing for the passover. Yeshua knew he was to be sacrificed. The last supper has No lamb or bitter herbs.
The asserting in their studies is breathtaking! 🤦🏽♂️🤣 come on brothers, do better by the Most High.
They did not think a day started at evening. That was a babylonian way of time keeping. A day began at dawn
No it's in the Torah
I love the simple things like, if you no longer have a temple then the sacrifice is over. Wow. So why enrage YHWH by having a sham passover with a plate with eggs and other nonsense on it like a pagan? You really wonder why we get killed and why we wander around the nations. You simply don't believe YHWH nor Moshe Rabeinu.
The meal was not a pesach seder. Pesach was a greek insertion in order to add explanation for some reason. The proof for this is in the various accounts when you ignore the pesach material. The festival leading up to Yesha's death was Sukkot. One example, Mt. of Transfiguration where the students offered to build sukkots, one each for Moshe, Elijah, and Yesha. Another example, the triumphal entry, the people gathered palm branches. The only festival where branches of trees are gathered by the people is Sukkot.
Therefore, the Last Supper occurred during the period of Sukkot not Pesach.
You don't know what you're talking about! That's all false!
Passover NIGHT was Tues. evening (13th) after preparation and sacrifices were finished. This is the Passover meal which Yahshua and his disciples were observing. That night after Passover meal Yahshua was captured in the garden and taken to be examined for sin (blemishes). On Wednesday, Passover Day (14th) the city is full of Jews, and in the temple and courtyards: Yahshua is tortured and tried, and taken to the cross. They had to take Him down off the cross before evening because the Sabbath (First Day of Unleavened Bread) was the next day (Thursday the 15th) Yahshua was in the grave for three days and three nights (Jonah) Wed. evening - Sat evening. All the Torah & the Prophets fulfilled in Yahshua!
Noahs Ark How can you eat the Passover Seder before the lamb is inspected & thereafter sacrificed? Yeshua was sacrificed at the same time as the Passover lambs. Judas leaving was the final sweeping of the house of leaven when he left to go betray the Christ. No, not the Seder.
Apples and Oranges
Three days vs three days and three nights...
John 2:19 Jesus answered and said to them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”
Yeshua makes two similar statements in Matthew 12 & 16
Matthew 12:8 Then some of the scribes and Pharisees answered, saying, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from You.”
39 But He answered and said to them, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. 40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Matthew 13:1 On the same day Jesus went out of the house and sat by the sea. 2 And great multitudes were gathered together to Him, so that He got into a boat and sat; and the whole multitude stood on the shore.
Fast forward to:
Matthew 16:1 Then the Pharisees and Sadducees came, and testing Him asked that He would show them a sign from heaven. 2 He answered and said to them, “When it is evening you say, ‘It will be fair weather, for the sky is red’; 3 and in the morning, ‘It will be foul weather today, for the sky is red and threatening.’ Hypocrites! You know how to discern the face of the sky, but you cannot discern the signs of the times. 4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign shall be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.” And He left them and departed.
Notice in Matthew 16 there’s no mention of ‘three days and nights’, that’s because there are three days and three nights between these two statements!
So will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
The ‘heart’ of the earth is the region of Galilee not the grave.
Typical Christian, too lazy to read 5 chapters in a row!
Matthew 6:21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
Is the grave your treasure?
Next!
So what’s the ‘sign of the prophet Yonah? Glad you asked...
2 Kings 14:25 25 He was the one who restored the boundaries of Israel from Lebo Hamath to the Dead Sea, in accordance with the word of the Lord, the God of Israel, spoken through his servant Jonah son of Amittai, the prophet from Gath Hepher.
The restored borders of Israel, 1967
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Don't mix the Gospels of Mt, Mk and Luke with the Gospel of John
They are two different accounts ! Discern the difference
VERY GOOD and close to the truth! This and more controversies have been unveiled by the most new servant of YAH. I am Cemir Torres and I wrote a book titled: Me Against the religious World on the Sign of Jonah by Cemir Torres, there and with out contradictions or ignoring verses, the real truth about this so called: the Lords Passover and the three days and three nights have being revealed clear as crystal and plain as day light, Peace to you and let's all come out of lies so we can worship the Father in Spirit and a truth. I humbly ask you to read it.
This does not make sense. The passover has to be killed just after the evening of the 13th and cooked and eaten on the 14th, and then he died on the 14th. Yeshua cannot be the Mashiach if he dies on the 15th.
No. The last supper was not a Pesach Seder.
Isa/yode-shin-ayin/EESAH was at a feast during the time of sukkot.
Subtract all of the “Passover” references and read the story.
What did EESAH ‘s students want to build on the Mount of Transfiguration?
What were the people gathering at the time of the supper?
Of what the people gathered did they lay down?
Of these items the people gathered, what is the intended purpose for these items?
For which Feast are these items gathered?
Why do Roman's believe lies of men and don't read Torah?
Lamb that was slaughtered on the eve of Passover was Egyptian lamb god khnum and also why Moshe makes this very clear Exodus 8 that we were going to go kill their lamb god. If this demigod is the lamb of god then Egypt is with us today.
Pesach is not sin offering 6 months later on day of atonement is sin offering and the goat who gets confessed sins isn't even killed, it's sent running out far from the camp. Epic fail on Rome's part to link this.
We killed the lamb in front of all Egyptians to show we didn't fear their capital punishment but we feared YHVH only. The blood on the door marked who feared YHVH and again mocked their lamb god by putting their gods blood on our doors.
This entire fake demigod saving these people of sins is truly going to be there doom and what's worse most truly want to have a relationship with HaShem and yet don't.
Plague hit the Nile khnum the lamb god was god over the Nile, the water barer. 3 times khnum the man/lamb god was mocked in this Shemot story. And now Rome wants us to follow their water? Accept their lamb god? Drink wine as blood like Egyptians had water the color of blood?
Roman's are nuts! Idolatrous nation!!
I've reasoned compelling evidence, that the last supper would have been the Passover on the Zadok Priestly calendar... if true, how they observed it, was no t made clear in scripture.
Why aren't you talking about the gospel contradiction? This is the most important issue here. According to matthew, Mark and Luke yeshua and his deciples ate the meal on the 13th day ,but they call it passover, when clearly according to John and Tora passover meal is on the 14th. Why?
What else does yeshua have to do? He was pierced, striped, and broken, then hidden to the second coming. He even holds up the cup of redemption at the last supper.
vegacool1 with all due respect brother, exactly how many people of Israel were pierced during their persecution?
When I see 'striped' I think of David and what YHVH says about his seed and what will happen to them when they disobey His Torah...
Psalms 98:29-33
'His seed also will I make to endure for ever, and his throne as the days of heaven. If his children forsake my law, and walk not in my judgments; if they break my statutes, and keep not my commandments; then will I visit their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with stripes. Nevertheless my loving-kindness will I not utterly take from him, nor suffer my faithfulness to fail. '
You say 'broken'...
Jeremiah 30
17For I will restore health unto thee, and I will heal thee of thy wounds, saith the Lord; because they called thee an Outcast, saying, This is Zion, whom no man seeketh after.
Isaiah 30
26Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day that the Lord bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound.
Hosea 6
1Come, and let us return unto the Lord: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
Micah 1
9For her wound is incurable; for it is come unto Judah; he is come unto the gate of my people, even to Jerusalem.
All I see is YHVH speaking about Israel.
Would you mind showing me where in the scripture it speaks of a second coming?
I mean no disrespect brother as I used to be a christian before myself. Just a suggestion, when you read the Hebrew scriptures try reading them without the Yeshua tinted glasses on, the results may astound you.
Peace and blessings
John in the interview, they said the afikomen refers to the Messiah.
vegacool1 I'll listen to it again, but was it The Messiah or a messiah?
You know messiah just means annointed, right? Even as a messiah, Yeshua is not to be worshipped as God himself.
Christ, the Passover Lamb. No other Jew has brought millions to the Living G-d!
You've been listening to B.S. at Nehemyah Gordon's wall🐵🤸💰🤮
Was the Last Supper a Passover Seder>>>
Yes
Now, Fun with scripture!
Most people have heard about the 'bad mark'
Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. He that hath understanding, let him count the number of the beast; for it is the number of a man: and his number is Six hundred and sixty and six.
Which can be found in the Quran, cause and effect...
Quran
Al Fatah 48
Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating [in prayer], seeking bounty from Allah and [His] pleasure. Their mark is on their faces from the trace of prostration. That is their description in the Torah. And their description in the Gospel is as a plant which produces its offshoots and strengthens them so they grow firm and stand upon their stalks, delighting the sowers - so that Allah may enrage by them the disbelievers. Allah has promised those who believe and do righteous deeds among them forgiveness and a great reward.
Their mark is on their faces from the trace of prostration
You get marked in the forehead (metaphysical) from bowing to Mecca.
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3572025/posts
But did you know there's a 'good mark?'
Shemot 13:16 And it shall be for a sign upon thy hand, and for frontlets between thine eyes: for by strength of hand YHVH brought us forth out of Egypt.
also verse:
9 And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thy hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the law of YHVH may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath YHVH brought thee out of Egypt.
Twice, that means pay attention! And for good measure the same numbers show up (for different marks) 13:16 in Revelation and Shemot!
13:5 And it shall be, when YHVH shall bring thee into the land of the Canaanite, and the Hittite, and the Amorite, and the Hivite, and the Jebusite, which he sware unto thy fathers to give thee, a land flowing with milk and honey, that thou shalt keep this service in this month.
6 Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, and in the seventh day shall be a feast to YHVH. 7 Unleavened bread shall be eaten throughout the seven days; and there shall no leavened bread be seen with thee, neither shall there be leaven seen with thee, in all thy borders.
You get the good mark for observing Pesach/Matzah! So get your matzah early!
Shabbat Shalom!
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Not really Tzaphone65. If you want to understand the end of the book you must know the beginning.
The original "mark in the hand and head" is in exodus 13, which is the passover and commandments, making the "mark" symbolic, therefore the mark of the enemy a hijacking and twisted version of passover(easter?) and the commandments(commandments of men?)
Well, the only answer to this should be a resounding - WHO CARES. Christianity, a heretical belief, isn't worth any follower of Elohim's time.