The Night City District We Never Got | Cyberpunk 2077
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- Опубліковано 25 жов 2023
- Today's cut content exploration hits all the 7 stages of grief. Join me in looking at Cyberpunk 2077's most famous cut area. Let's have a gander and what could have been and torture ourselves with the knowledge that this will never, ever, come to fruition.
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Did you know that inside the Militech building is cut content. There are actually hallways and rooms. You should do a video on that.
What Militech building? That sounds really cool
The one in Corpo Plaza. Also the Metal store near that.@@masterkiloren99
Downtown, corpo center. Across from thr arasaka hq
eh, i Would not call it a cut content. A lot of stuff like that are made in the beginning just because it may be needed for later. Militech is a big corporation and plays a big role in the universe, so it possible they may considered at some point in early development to do something with it. But then decided to not. Doesnt mean it was cut mid development, just nothing came out of it. Same with different closed off installations that you cant enter. Those are most likely were placeholders for planned expansions. Whole area around Casino was definitely mostly a placeholder for future expansion. Of course now those are cancelled.
And i think some areas most likely were never planned to have any real content and were made just for the size of the city. Would not be really that immersive if Night City was about 20-30% smaller in size, also would've conflicted with its representation in the tabletop books. SO they just added those unreachable places so that player felt that they are in a big city, bigger than actual playable area is.
Why don't you
It's such a shame we didn't get a Beverley Hills type of residential area to explain were all of Night City's rich and famous lived, a place to put the high end cars, high rolling NPC's and the posh shops.
absolutely, we only really get that with some of the corpo plazas, but even that is a completely different kind of wealth
we did, but apparently the only rich people are the members of samurai and the executive of arasaka, what a coincidence
Kerry is the only rich person in night city
@@isaacs4050 No, you do meet quite a few actually. Bes Isis, and Gilliean Jordan both in the Media, one is a TV personality. Obviously, there are many more but the story is not designed around meeting the Rich and Aimless... LOL
True indeed. The Executive Zone of 2020-2045 was a gated community only for the CORPO RICH, in order to get there by NCART you have to board a HIGH-SECURITY NCART, meet all the bioscanner demands, and pass through heavy Security. Alongside this area was New Westbrook which was a nice area, but after the war, it became a place of homeless. The Executive Zone still existed. Executive Zone Beaverville was all white picket fences and neighborhoods for the wealthy, not ultra-rich but wealthy. All that changed by 2077, but I imagine that North Oak would be the premier area of which you would have both Ultra-Rich, Executive Zone for Corpos and that of wealthy families. But on pen and paper, you can do whatever. Thats why pen and paper can exceed video games, maybe not visually.
The casino was a huge missed opportunity, they practically described 4 variants of people in night city, which included nomads, streetkids, corpos and those with rich lifestyle(concept art), casino would've been the prime area for those 4th kind. The concept art of this looks gorgeous and I had hopes that it would make it to the game with Phantom Liberty but sadly it didn't. Hopefully a mod in the coming times can make it accessible and explorable
probably be in the sequel. Cause at that point, a mod of that scale would come out by the time we hear anything from the official sequel lol
Well tbh the “rich” are either street kids or corpos so there wouldn’t even be much of a difference tbh
uh no lol, musicians, sport stars, etc are part of that. Corpo's are their own different type of rich. Example. Kerry is rich and isn't a corpo@@EnvysWRLD
@@EnvysWRLD i couldn't think of the exact word I was trying to portray but I think you get what I meant, there were 4 types of concept arts describing people of night city, I'm talking about the one which says "Style and Substance" we can see the casino behind. So maybe we had another lifepath possibly? And the casino would've been strongly linked to that
@@emmanuelobodozie713he is definitely a corpo, just that he's rich enough to not wear their colors
Imma be honest. Night city is still hugeeee af. Im still finding lil alley ways and areas ive never been. Its such a mind trip to think theres so much i havent seen and ive beaten the game like 3 times already and just finished the phanton liberty dlc
I accidentally drove my car off of a massive ditch thing into this like valley of trash and it was below the streets with people walk around and stuff, really tripped me out. There is so much to NC.
I agree, I've been playing this game since day 1 and I'm still finding places I've never visited before.
And finding so many little easter eggs everywhere, like theres a GTA SA Wrong Side of the Tracks Easter Egg by a Train Tunnel!
I'm on my 5th playthrough and I just found a new basement in a shack out in the badlands. I've looted it before but missed the stairs downward.
Yeah I have recently been calling my car less when I'm going between gigs and scanner events and ignoring the guide line and just sorta nosing around the little nooks and crannies of the city as i head to my destination, it's incredibly detailed, and like, you just zoom right by it if you drive everywhere. I do still grab a car when i need to cross the badlands, though, not a whole lot to see out there.
Since we’re not getting anymore expansions for 2077, I just hope the next game will expand the already existing night city map. They’d save a ton of time on building an entire new city from scratch and can focus on the outskirts plus more interior environments in the main city.
umm we are definitely NOT gonna be in night city in the next game 💀
@@tigrispanthera5496 why not? Base lore takes place here. It won't be a bad idea to expand upon the existing, maybe even throw a few more locations like the witcher 3
@@tigrispanthera5496you have no way of knowing that so why spout bullshit ?
@@tigrispanthera5496 Cyberpunk universe is Night City. It is a main character of this universe. Next game will definitely will be set in the Night City. Most likely some years later, at the start or in the middle of a new corporate war.
@@alexfaden3091 Fuck yes corpo wars!
Part of me wishes they'd keep developing this game for the next decade.
but who knows, maybe with a fresh start on Orion they could get even more in
I would buy any expansion or dlc they bring out in hopes that they restore all the cut content
I really like this game I think there was plenty to do, I have big hopes for them switching to Unreal engine. If they can get the hang of it quick enough I'm sure they can do all the things they couldn't.
@@stevenroberts4356The launch really screwed them over big time. They made a very good story (one of the best in my opinion) but unfortunately it was all covered up by bugs and glitches and they spent years fixing the game. If the game didn’t launch all bugged they probably would’ve added so much to the game (probably make the map 20-25% bigger and add tons of more things)
I’m very excited about their next game because Cyberpunk 2077 has turned out to be one of the best RPG/open world games of all time.
part of me knows they would only be finishing the game for the next decade instead of developing it
Night city is really in depth. I think I've never found a world so multi leveled.
It is a great map absolutely, dare I say the best I’ve seen
Zelda Tears of the Kingdom would like a word with you..
@@shapeshifter-theamorphousg3264 come on Zelda is not multi level. You know when I walk through Night City. It's giving me backroom vibes for some reason. Do you have that with Zelda? Because to me it just looks like rdr2 world, just a magnificent looking country side.
@@zoubeirfaouzi149 Tears of the Kingdom is extremely multi-level! You can jump down from the sky islands high up, all the way down to the surface and if you aim correctly right through one of the sink holes straight into the massive underworld caverns. Without any loading screens.. The most multi-levelled experience in a videogame ever if u ask me😉Here's proof: ua-cam.com/video/kuKj_SG4zGE/v-deo.htmlsi=iQG5u4sPmzBpQehJ
@phill1420 absolutely, backroom vibes refers to the feeling of walking around in endless hallways and open spaces. If you have walked around Night city you will definitely catch my drift. Not saying that the world of Zelda is bad btw. It's magnificent just like the world of RDR2. It's just different you know?
That space is a great opportunity for modders to take advantage of. Custom DLC gigs, areas, quests, hell, maybe even a modded ending. I'd love to see that space used as racing gigs or living areas/apartments.
And how do you imagine they would do that. Its not really possible.
@@alexfaden3091have you never seen skyrim mods?
@@nekokindsCyberpunk's Game engine does not allow for such extensive modding like that of Bethesda's game engine, hell no game allows as many modifications like Skyrim or fallout because they were games built ground up to be modded and modified by players.
@@nekokinds Have you ever seen how actual modding and programming done? Do you know that Skyrim has a public development kit for people to use? Thats why people can do stuff like that in Bethesda games. Cyberpunk 2077 doesnt have any. It only has basic modding functionality in the form of REDMOD, thats it
@@nekokindscan't be done unless they release source code
I honestly hope for Project Orion, that they take Night City and use the development time to use the rest of the map and expand on things already there, more internal buildings, more NPC’s, more things to do. Imagine the entire map playable and dense like the rest of it.
Yeah but they are switching to unreal engine 5 for Cyberpunk 2. So will they be able to simply " transfer " the city from red engine to UE5 and then improve on it even more ? Or will they have to start from scratch all over again ? Personnaly I think like you, I want them to use the same city in Cyberpunk 2 because I love it so much and it has such an identity and level of detail in the architecture, I want them to take the same city and make it even bigger and add more content in it, but will they be able to or not since Cyberpunk 2 won't use the same engine, I don't know
engine to engine assets transfer shouldn't e much of an issue, they'll probably revamp the textures, detailing and improve upon everything which was a limitation in the RedEngine 4. Distant rendering was the biggest issue imo, 2d cars low poly textures even on max settings were a bit of a letdown. Now they have the power and opportunity to improve upon all these limitations and add even more. I really hope the artstyle from the original game stays, I know realism will be focused upon, but something about cyberpunk makes it feel so good in its own way. We shall see when we get the product. Let's hope for the best.@@mordor1779
i would think its a case or porting assets over otherwise its going to be another 10 years for cdpr and thats not good for buisness.@@mordor1779
@@mordor1779I think they will start from scratch because of all the minor screwups all over the place. The rushed it out so much there is a lot of missing code and impacts everything else about it. A lot of textures that while you can see them, you can't touch them and just walk through them.
I am hoping that they have paid attention to their mistakes and will rectify them all on the second time through.
They swore that we would get a smaller map in comparison to other games, but in return we would get vertical exploration instead, and in partner we really need flying cars. That didn't happen. And all the cut and shallow content was severely impacted. Not to mention the lack of older adult content.
Liberty was a DLC in the correct direction and is just a tiny preview of what we could of gotten.
I really wanted to see a massive story change at the end of The Heist.
Jackie dies if we go to Dex and we become Johnny, maybe he survives and becomes Johnny if we went to Evelyn in the cab instead like the story hints.
@@mordor1779 Night City has been the focal point for the Cyberpunk series for decades, it's not gonna be set anywhere else
I really wish they would do more dlc. Even if it's not a full one like phantom Liberty, some more gigs and side quests would be great. Lots of places on the map to put them. Adding sections would be cool too. The way things are in the gaming industry sequels worry me. Rather them just build on what is already working considering the engine took this long to get to this point.
They did add some gigs for free as mini DLC
Agreed
@@CursedMoistMan690 yeah tbh i would see a mini dlc: THE CASINO, where that place is fully working and u can go spend all ur millions in the casino, maybe be on some leaderboards ect.
Maybe we will get a few weapons, vehicles, gigs or even Side Jobs in the upcoming Cyberpunk ultimate edition.
I wont get my hopes up to high though...
Yeah bro that’s called LIVE service and it’s been getting shit on by popular media and average Joe gamers.
So a bit of context for that prerelease map you pulled out: It dates back to about 2014/2015. By then, they had already begun with the actual city blockout and had found the actual scope of the game map. And the original preprod version of the map was just way to expansive for 400 developer core team.
North oak had a couple for buildings in the newer version of the map, but not anywhere near as many as you suggested.
The north oak casino was a concept solely for cyberpunk online.
Regarding the ncart rail you said could have originally been a road: No, that was basically always a ncard rail.
And yes, of course during phantom liberty preproduction this was all rediscussed and there were some meetings regarding the casino and north oak but as you all now see the main focus was decided to be dogtown.
I feel like you presented everything you just said as though it were somehow insightful, but it was all very obvious and self-evident.
@@wimbusbert1249 it is very obvious... but the guy in the video seems to not know that. This video is kind of pointless and just to grab attention
yet your're still here and commenting lmao @@Chryzer
you're going to lose your fucking mind when you find out the literal ONLY reason people make youtube videos@@Chryzer
@@wimbusbert1249corpotalk lmfao
I'd be fine with paying 10-15 bucks for a small DLC that would restore this casino. No need for a whole ass expansion. Just a DLC that fleshes out the area a bit more, and restores the casino to its full glory, complete with playable games/gambling.
such a small dlc would be a very bad hit on them via marketing. the media would shitstorm them for months....
its sad to wait, but the move with the NEW cyberpunk was the right one
@@Shadowclaw25 Why would it be a hit on them? What's wrong with a 10 dollar small DLC? Not everything needs to be a massive expansion or free quests like in The Witcher 3.
@@CyberBadger93what do you think you're getting at here? An expansion is a DLC, it's just a different word for the exact same thing. You're arguing really silly semantics.
Agreed
The casino was intended for multiplayer mode.
theres also a huge factory that is at northside of watson which is clearly a cut area, even the entrances have hostile area indicated, I nocliped there and that is a pretty huge area as the walls of the area is covered with barbwires so you cannot possibly go inside
I'm always impressed by the scale of the map whenever I see it even in noclip/flying mode like this.
I think that the best way to understand the cut content is to look back at the ttrpg that inspired the game. In the Ted ttrpg, where i presume the Casino matches up with, is a blue/exec zone which is one of the safest areas in night city and also where a lot of industry and social events take place. Corpo conventions and balls, red carpet, different companies snd actors making releases and debuts.
I love this, some kind of safe haven away from the degenerate shit going on in central. Such a shame it wasn't realised
You were the main one pushing them to release the game sooner
Imagine there was no publisher pressure to ship this game early. The completed product we could've had.... fleshed out hills area with casino and fully working ncart system to be used by the player... 😭
oh man it hurts my soul. The game right now is great but it always has that "what if" vibe everywhere you go
Not a publisher pressure but management pressure. CEOs needed money and they needed it fast to fill their pockets and please the investors. They launched a marketing campaign too early hoping that the game would sort itself out.
lmao this feels like watching a documentary of explaining or revealing bout an ancient civilization. great vid btw
I know they're gonna be working on the sequel to 2077, and that’s great, but I’d be totally happy with them just releasing Phantom Liberty quality DLC’s for this one instead. Like, do a DLC building up all that space you’re talking about here. One of the things I loved so much about Phantom Liberty was that I got to see an area that was clearly unfinished, presented to us as it always should have been.
Even before the DLC’s release, Pacifica’s skyline was transformed by the 2.0 patch. Maybe I just wish they’d release a patch that would do for the other areas of the map, what 2.0 did for Pacifica. We know there wont be any more DLC but at least make the environment look more amazing. That would go a long way toward making the edges of the explorable areas feel more real I think.
Anyway. Great video. Thanks.
You were the main one pushing them to release the game sooner
im holding onto the copium that theyll give us in depth redengine tools now that theyre moving on that way we can really make a lot of stuff for W3 and 2077. Probably not, but who knows.
keep your expectations low buddy. They may regain their reputation back with the next cyberpunk orion project.
@@prrrrrrrefect They'd be fools to do a Cyberpunk 2077 2.0.
Even the investors that don't have a clue about game development won't be that dumb next time.
Who knows, maybe the disastrous launch of CP2077 would end up making the next game even better.
You were the main one pushing them to release the game sooner
Nice video. Thanks for keeping up with the cut content and changes in NC.
I am loving these vids. Cyberpunk 2077 is an amazing project, it still amazes me how big and ambitious it is. CDPR tried to pull a real RockStar GTA from their sleeve. I am really sad things went down the way they did - I can easily imagine a live service game on this map doing well for 5-10 years...
I'm not sure about this but I think that greenery portion of the map is NC's Executive Zone. It's like a subdivision of the top corpo elites of NC with greenery and best security detail (Lazarus Group, Military Corp). Hence, making it locked off outside Night City.
It was also stated that there was a specialized NCART track from Executive Zone to NC.
The hills was probably suppose to be the "hollywood" area.
one recent part of unfinished or cut content is during the "no easy way out" quest in phantom lib, where you're supposed to be able to kill the animal gang that would otherwise kill aaron if you chose to get his chip deactivated, but alas the arena for them never got added into the game, so the animal gang enemies are quite literally just floating underneath the map, unable to be accessed
Its bizarre to know about all of this cut content. What we got was already a shitload of it, it took me about 100 hours to do every side quest and gig in the game, imagine how much more we'd have if they actually had time and resources to add these cut sections of the map.
it would honestly be insane, dare I say, on par with something like Red Dead Redemption 2. Remember when CDPR said it would be more detailed that RDR2? aha... the pain
and let's not mention crystal palace dlc that would have been epic!
I love those parts of North Oak, Because it reminds me of the place I used to live in, A fairly rural hillside town near a city where you can see the cityscape lights at night. Plus the area has a lot of Syd Mead's design similar to that of The Film Elysium. I loved his art. Sad that this area was cut. Outside of Japantown and City center? North Oak, especially at night is the best places to do a scenic drive in NC.
I think you’re right, from a design point of view the NCART would almost certainly hug the ridgeline, you can essentially see the silhouette of where would have been. That said, it probably wouldn’t divert around the casino, but again, it would likely rejoin the other tracks due south of the storm canal, in the freight-yard where V is introduced to Panam.
What's really fascinating is that this early casino is evidence of an earlier version of the Phatom Liberty story, as there is a casino scene in there. As they refined the story in Dogtown, though, they realized the casino had to be in Dogtown, and that's what forced them to put it on top of a skyscraper inside Dogtown. Dogtown has a really amazing amount of verticallity in its content as a result of this limitation
where did you get this info from? Sounds Like your making it up. please say its not factual. Just because there is a casino here and one in dogtown does not mean it was related. dogtowns casino is rugged and merc style. It was a secret oasis for the rich. This is loud and has a presence of wealth. seems to me it has to do with a corpo "fun" area. OR the rich and famous.
Knowing what could have been and not focusing on what we got, isn’t always good.
"What could've been" were the promises they made but did not deliver, sure the game that I'm playing RIGHT NOW with the update is good and if not, fantastic. But it's always better to remember to look back and see what they were trying to sell off.
I bought 2 copies of the game hoping that everything or at least most of what was from that 48 minute "gameplay" would be present in the final game but instead, what I had was half baked and unfinished.
That said, after spending nearly 100+hrs into the game, I cannot wait for Project Orion (Cyberpunk 2) to be finished and thinking positively that they will finally implement most of these cut content.
@@drnafari0us962not to be negative but seeing the recent layoffs, the fact they’re switching engines and the upper management leaving i don’t think that’s a good sign for w4 and cp2
@@drnafari0us962Can you please enumerate this "what could have beens" and promises along with the source? They didn't promise anything specific about the map. The biggest things that they didn't gave us are the wall running and trains. But I don't remember them promising the casino. Seriously some of you all are just making things up with all these "promises" that they made
@@euclid4703 That's aftermath of pandemic, world economic recession, terrible release (not financial) and focusing on updates and Phantom Liberty. CDPR actually lost lot of revenue because of DLC and updates.
@@euclid4703Switching engines to an industry standard is a great sign and will help them hire talent. Their own bespoke engine was a pain to work with.
I hope the next Cyberpunk games are based in different countries. Would love to see Tokyo, London, Paris, or some other major city that is mentioned in this game by the main characters.
Would definitely love some historical European city. Sure, in Cyberpunk reality no one's gonna care about preserving historical buildings, but nonetheless some of them are gonna still be standing, probably. I wanna see them integrated into the cyberpunk cityscape
As neat as that would seem, it wouldn't really be the cyberpunk you know. Night City is THE setting for all cyberpunk games that 2077 is based on, it's literally a main character in its own right. They'd be turning off a big chunk of the more loyal fanbase if they announced the next game would mainly take place anywhere else. I could see brief visits to other locations but the focus kind of has to be night city
Naah. Respectfully, night city and north America is the perfect setting for this entire franchise. I can't fathom the levels of cringe having the next V be a french dude or even worse British or polish.
The crazy part is how the Casino is even used in the tv ad for Cyberpunk 2077 yet it's the only part now since the latest updates in that ad that aren't a thing within the game since the driving and shooting mechanics were added.
In early versions of the game, the map was shaded differently. There were two or three areas that were clearly meant to be expansions eventually. They all had roads that just ended in them kind of randomly. They had a blueish terrain shading while areas where it was clear they never had any intention of using were just flat black. After a laters update, that changed. One area I remember was north of the oil fields, another was the hills area, and another, I think, was in the bad lands area somewhere. I mean, in the early map, there were three areas that were still undiscoverable, but yet stood out from the rest of the undiscoverable area while having a pretty defined shape to them. Then it seemed like CDPR realized they couldn't produce all that and changed how the map looked after an update.
All that happened after they announced that they'll only do 1 expansion. Since the original plan is 2 expansion just like TW3. Honesty I don't agree with them giving up on the Red Engine but I guess they're having a really hard time to hire more people if they're gonna stick to that engine instead of going Unreal.
I wish they'd add in a DLC to add this area back in as well as a casino plotline
My prediction is Project Orion (aka Cyberpunk 2) will still be set in Night City, but with a significant time jump allowing the devs to further expand the city and use these areas which weren't utilised in this game. The map has plenty of room for expansion, so it would make sense to fill these areas
I've literally explored this without using no clip at all. Endless fun from the first time I jumped on a rail system.
a man of culture I see
@@SirMZK Haha indeed. It's all about the old days of 3D gaming and wondering "can I climb that?"
Honestly the universe that cdpr have created has soooooo much potential that im super excited for what's comming next
Approaching the casino from the badlands used to automatically turn you around and display a message saying 'There's nothing here for you... yet' (same as the spaceport). Now it just says 'There's nothing here for you', so they obviously had plans to add it in at some point that were later abandoned. It might have been intended as the original location for the Black Sapphire, but they decided it was easier to implement the infiltration part of the mission if it was all in Dogtown. I believe there were originally supposed to be more tunnel areas throughout the map, but they were mostly cut at quite an early stage. You can see how maybe without them to work with it'd become harder to link things up and just sticking the casino in the tower would become a simpler option. They might also have decided it worked better in Dogtown for story reasons, although personally I think it makes more sense for the high-rollers to be going somewhere less ruined, grimy and littered with dangling, mutilated corpses to get their kicks.
What needs to happen in Orion with the implementation of UE5:
-Increased verticality and playability of all Megabuildings, Militech and Arasaka HQ’s.
-Expansion of North Oak area and Casino
-Expansion of Oil fields and industrial district
- Expansion of Biotechnica Flats
-More points of interest in the badlands, particularly towards the South Border. Also around the dam and Laguna Bend
-Slightly more detail in places like North Pacifica and Arasaka Wayerfront.
Idk if you have already. But how about Noclipping around Johnny's flashbacks? Seeing what's changed in 2023 would be neet. Or hell. Exploring night city in 2079 in that ending.
Oh wow this is a great idea… will have to work out the logistics of it but yes absolutely. Stay tuned and thank you :)
It's the same minus a few different signs. It sucks
@@SirMZK awesome!!!!
@@chrispekel5709 We'll see, We'll see.
@@FrankByDaylight I've flown around in it, it's the same city. Kind of disappointing but it didn't bother me as I kind of saw it as there being a merging of V and Johnny's memories
That NCART looking track might be connected to the tunnel boring infrastructure that's seen in one of the endings and referenced throughout the lore. Where the track dissappears into the rocky hillside seems to line up with the trajectory of the magrail tunnels. And there's service train tracks running throughout Northside, so perhaps the city had plans to link up the industrial trains with the magrail project to more easily ferry industrial goods from outside the city into the NID and beyond.
If you look up the physical map of Night City that CDPR included in the physical collectors edition you can clearly see that charter hill was substantially bigger and north oak actually had more big estates. Kerry, Denny, and tree he Arasaka compound actually had neighbors.
In my opinion they got to at least the very beginning of building out north before scrapping it and replacing it with barren hills. Like, there are recessed lights in the ground like you'd see illuminating paths inside of an estate. There are other weird little details you can find around north oak that suggest there were more residences in the hills.
I hope they realize that they got some good attention with phantom Liberty and pick up the project again and not to mention that there is also a bunch of buildings and props 90% done like that Militeck buildings and train system that runs around the city, heck in the first trailers V can clearly be seen riding it
If anything they'll make a unreal 5 port
Unfortunately, as @depressed_weeb0694 alludes to, it's not so much about attention or financial success. Developing and maintaining your own bespoke game engine is a LOT of ongoing work, and CDPR made the decision after CP2077 that they were done with REDEngine, and are migrating all future work to Unreal 5. Based on their comments it sounds like they are working with Epic and it will probably be fairly customized fork of UE5 to ensure it has some of the features of REDEngine 2.0 they want to preserve, but bottom line is that for the next while all their games will be coming via Unreal.
They've put most resources on Orion but you'd think the could afford to throw 2 or 3 modders on a project to build official updates that flesh out the city and add more activities, keeping the community alive until the sequel.
@@CursedMoistMan690 easier said than done lol.
@labomemnumbazerozeroyon7085 yeah, porting a map/models is a piece of cake, but coding the entire game again would be a pain
I really hope Cyberpunk 2 (Or whatever they end up calling Project Orion) takes place in Night City because it would make developing the next game so much easier by using the current Night City as a guideline and be able to more easily expand on it.
Things like an expanded North Oak with the casino, more stuff in the Badlands, access to the Arasaka Dockyards, maybe stuff in the oil fields or the trash heap, something more with the Biotechnica Flats, and access to other megabuildings around the city including the Militech Night City HQ.
There is so much that could be added to Night City and CD Projekt being able to use the original Night City could help save a TON a development resources that could be put into these other areas or other additional content like quests or guns.
Nah they should make it in sugen
Great video showing what could have been. I played thought this game at launch an was really underwhelmed. I knew it was rushed and it really makes me sad. No because I bought a bad product, but because there are so many clues of cut content that really just makes me think about how good this game could have been with more time and budget. Sad.
In Downtown there is a city block where a couple of floors up there is a huge yellow Neon sign telling you to stay away. If you manage to get up there, you can see that there is an entire are suspended in the building, complete with a car parking lot and a sealed off club entrance. The name of this club is relevant in the lore, but I dont remember the name of it.
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I assume the extendy bit it to make it look realistic when looking out that direction through any gaps.
Instead of just darkness, you can see the rail disappear into the dark, that kind of thing.
The difference in length may also be for that, or that's just the default size of the asset.
Really neat video. I've been trying to get PathTracing to a stable 40 fps with my mid level box, so almost everything is cpunk in my brain right now.
I want a fully developed Night City, then more city around the world and then Hive City and the Moon base, possibly Mars base as well
Makes sense to keep using Night City in the next game. Set it a few decades later, update parts of the neighbourhoods, further bump the graphics, have more indoor spots and invest in mechanics that make the world feel more alive.
in earlier patches i think if u were around those places where that ncart railway goes on, u could hear noises of it coming from the underneath the ground.
i think that road bridge/track thing is there as a small piece of lore about night city's planning, like, they thought they were going to build some more roads there but instead it got converted to an NCART track
Imagine what Cyberpunk would have been if they didn't opped out for the old console versions, who ate up a lot of time as we know now. It's a shame to see such opportunities left out. Happens with many games but it is even more sad for Cyberpunk, in my eyes. The Casino would have been amazing.
I wish they will include these places, same goes with the Crystal palace and the Moon. I hope so much they include these in the Sequel.
Oh and i think the Casino stuff in the DLC was reused stuff made for said Casino.
this isnt the reason they cut content, you are delusional
@@cooltwittertag What reason of cut content you are speaking of? Not sure what your interpretation of my wording here is exactly.
And thanks for your opinion on my state of mind, noted.
@@KleinMeme they already cut content in 2014, because they just couldnt match their vision due to the size of it. Nothing to do with the then brand new consoles and believe me they werent thinking about raytracing back then either. A lot of cuts happened very early on due to a disconnect in scope of what the writers envisioned and what cdpr saw as possible with its team at the time.
The blue and road meeting most like would have cars driving next to the track. A lot of California use to have this for freight. My town had it in the 90s but it got too dangerous.
I truly believe after initially cutting it, they planned to upgrade that area in a DLC (back when they had two dlcs in the works) and then the release happens yada yada yada they cut that down to only one DLC (phantom liberty and filling out Pacifica) well I guarantee you Westbrook was going to probably be the original first DLC and it expanded the city a bit (hearts of Stone style) and then phantom liberty was gonna be the second with its own little “mini city” combat zone (dogtown). But they cut the Casino one to more fast track to the second cyberpunk game.
My guess with the highway under the tracks is that it possibly was going to be a station at one point, but at the same time that's just cause of the way it's shaped and the fact that it is right up next to a building
my thoughts exactly, many similar locations that have these converted buildings. I always think about how these interiors would have looked... oh god it hurts lmao
A lot of these things you talk about I never knew about, so it's cool to see.
Maybe that track part is just for decor now, seeing as it has weird bits and bobs around the corner turn? The tiny buildings are likely for decor to look at from a distance or to show construction? That walk way is a huge shame though. Would have loved to use it!
I would have LOVED to see a casino. We get a small taste of it in the new DLC, but that's it. I hope they add it in the future, as well as drivable flying cars! The fact that the models for the buildings are still there tells me maybe it'll be added in the future? Why else would they keep it in?
2:30 Looks like they were trying to get the highway to match up with the one to city center but the ramp to it didn't fit.
So they cut it out, Used the shape as a preform for NCart track, Didn't remove the road section.
As a novice game designer I'm pretty sure I could lay down some pretty good explinations for quite a lot of these "were to be" parts of the game. A lot of it just comes down to time and payoff essentially but there have been executive decision making in every single one of those examples. Pretty cool to play around with though.
i actually like this , its almost like teasing what the next update will be and how much there will be based on the unfinished construction site across the map , like i thought the construction site in gta 5 would eventually be completed to link up to the next DLC , that would be such a unique way of showing upcoming new content or for example like billboards showing like a car that will be releasing or a contruction that will be completed on a specific date that shows new Content that will be added that gives the game more character making it feel like the city is alive and ever growing ...
I remember playing cyberpunk before the Dogtown expansion came out. I remember going by the “new entrance” and seeing two girls there trying to get inside. If you stood next to them they have a conversation about what’s going on in there and it went something like this.
“What you think is happening in there”
“I’m not sure but some one told me it’s like a hudge arena where cyberphyscos fights”
It made me always wanna explore the parts of the city even when i zoomed it seemed like such a hudge part of the game was missing.. sadly idk if there going to add this part of the map I heard there on the next game already
I feel like there was an opportunity for a whole new subset of silly quests. The hyper-rich would have some of the most random things they'd 'need'. Remember that quest where you drive Ozob to Pacifica? Yeah, stuff like that.
One cool potential to me would be having a third quest with Jackie and T-bug, between Sandra Dorsett and Konpeki Plaza. Pulling off a small-stakes casino heist could be the way you get noticed by Dexter Deshawn and be welcomed into Afterlife. It would make losing your team all the more painful and have you truly suffer the effects of being a solo.
I think they kind of shot themselves in the foot by closing the cyberpunk chapter, they could have easily pumped out one more dlc and finished up those areas too, and then in like 2024/25 release the definitive edition...
Near the aldecaldos area at the borders, I wandered with freefly and there are parts that were supposed to be something but then removed and is clearly something they could expand on with a dlc which a this point is highly unlikely
That NCART track could be the one that comes back to Night City where the GTA 'follow the damn train' easter egg is. I'm running off memory, but I'm pretty sure that is over that side somewhere. Near Joss's place I think.
Hopefully with the move to Unreal the devs don't have as many issues and can get things done quicker so that we don't have empty/unfinished areas of the map.
I would love the next game to almost be an alternative reality where the city was finished and things like the NCART and trains work and all these areas are used for something. Seems like they had a lot of plans that were cut part way through production. It would be awesome to see them come to fruition.
It seems like the highway with the walkway and building that were under construction wasn’t actually cut content and was just stuff that was going to be added into the 2.1 update or maybe it was cut content but they decided to add it into the game.
This track is just leading outside of Night City possibly to other cities just like the roads do.
5:22 haha i was in those walk ways the other day actually entered from that tower on the hills side it was empty af but this is what happens when development is rushed and area desingers just add Filler assets
You were the main one pushing them to release the game sooner , my dad is one of the main developers at gog, I can set you guys up on a meeting
CP77 is one of those games that I wish they'd release an "Ultimate" edition where all the cut content gets added in. Obviously not every weapon, item, and vehicle needs to be there, but seeing the entirety of the planned map, mechanics, and rare items would be amazing. Like give me the gold standard of what the devs imagined as the ideal version of the game
I remember how the when you would go out near that area of the map it used to say "there's nothing out there for you, yet" now after PL it just says "turn back, nothin out there for you" sad 😪
This train looks like the one from the Phantom Liberty trailer that Reed enters
Whenever is see stuff like this while roaming the map I get excited and think as if it will be another dlc for the game.. for me this game is so good that i don’t care if CD Projects throw all the missing content on patches after patches I’ll still buy the.. so much potential this game have.
East outside of the map from the rail tunnel there is an unused (but prepared for a mission) militech construction site and you can find a computer there talking about some kind of rail system - probably a cut main/side mission? No idea
4:39 you can even see it on the left bottom corner of the screen, the little black building/station
A good reason for keep Night City for the next games setting, they can have it set several years later and show how much Night City has grown over time.
another good reason is that cyberpunk is based on the ttrpg books which are and have always been set exclusively in night city.
ok, to recap, areas with lots more to do in principle, but also in terms of surface area: the orbit terminal, arasaka waterfront, westbrook, badlands (that go beyond what we have right now, but fill the desert with a little more secrets, I wouldnt mind. Biotechnica protein farms.
Maybe the ncart track was supposed to link up with the tunnel where the Murkmobile was located? That would be a huge tunnel though
I hear you man… Good video. I feel the same way. A bit frustrated and quite disappointed, because I really like Cyberpunk 2077 and Phantom Liberty and I would have hoped we’ll see all that unused stuff in further expansions. Makes me a bit sad actually. All because of the disastrous initial release of the game. Real bummer.
You could argue that the construction site is a look at what might be ahead for the game. Maybe they add the expansion later
The empty space on the map can be used in the next games and can be put together to be one big city spread over several games ....
I found the green bridge area the other day. I was able to explore all around there by double jumping.
What camera mod do you use? I would like to download it and use it too. In game camera sux. Thanks for the vids!
Despite Cyberpunk 2077 getting 3 years of work, despite the 2.0, Despite Phantom Liberty. It will always, always have that looming shadow over it. The "What could have been". Engine limitation, CDPR Bosses, Unreasonable deadlines, overworking, scrapping, etc. Reality check, but man, What could have been and what never will.
I think the biggest problem with the game to this day is the main story! I have nothing against Reeves, but the story shouldn't have centred around Johnny!
I wonder if that's why content like North Oak got cut. If the game underwent a radical direction change which has been strongly rumoured, with yanno higher ups even leaving CDPR over creative differences. Changing the game to first person instead of third, they'd have had to heavily rework mechanics. It all adds up to why there's so much cut and why the game also launched in the state it did. If they had to start effectively from scratch fairly late in Development.
I think that phantom liberty improves the main story a lot
I imagine that perhaps they had the idea of expanding upon Westbrook and the Casino area for perhaps the second expansion but as we know there's no more second expansion.
in the 2.1 update, on the new skytrain, ive noticed next to where you sit, very noticeable advertisements for the casino. maybe a future update? or did they say they are done with the game now?
if CDPR is working on a sequel and still in Night City, this should really help the ground work and let them realise the vision of the Casino and "Hollywood Hills" type of areas. I've got pretty hyped watching the game intro of "Welcome to Night City" and seeing a gold chromed out celebrity on fashion runway and AV pads all that. Hell, even wondered if we as the player will ever get on the live TV shows.
u can actually get there without mods or anything. theres a ncpd thing and at somepoint during it a helicopter or smt comes up and u can enter it suprisingly idk why also its really glitchy but it will fly to that place and if u leave the helicopter thing at a right time u get there somehow. also u can go stand on top of the helicopter thing n stay there but whencthe invisible barrier comes up u fall
i accidentally did this i didint think u could actually enter it but u can for somereason
Came here after watching the 2.1 update announcement -- the sky train system is coming! Those tracks were not abandoned after all.
true
Assuming that Orion and other games will also be based in Night City, its very possible that these areas will become accessible in future sequels
3:52 If you explore the lore of Cyberpunk Red, you'll know that Night City is a Terminus for the Transcontinental Maglev high speed train. Lore deviates in 2077 as the area "being built" where you do the Aldecaldo's ending is the underground station for said Maglev. That station is supposed to exist already. That NCART track would have connected the City with the Maglev station.
I hope that Cyberpunk 2 is also in Nightcity and that they can finish all these areas and everything cthat they didn't get to in this game. Im just glad they got the spaceport done in PL.
This game keeps breaking my heart. People keep talking about how it’s all “fixed” now, but they’ll rarely if ever acknowledge the fact that this game feels so condensed. The cut content like the NCART and the casino will always be a sore spot for me.
I honestly never even noticed it was a scrapped idea. I just left it as thats what remained from johnny bombing arasaka hahaha. Now seeing this and looking at my dark horse cyberpunk puzzle, I realize that is the artwork for a much bigger piece of the game we may never see.
Hopefully they take into consideration and add this back in since the games been a rising success now. Maybe they can bring in a new city life, fixers and gangs. V always wanted to be the top dogg. Perhaps getting to the highrise part of the game would be it.
A part of me wish that cdpr just keep working on this game and release more expansions once every year or so.. just looking at all the cut contents in this game makes me wonder what could’ve been
Or if it was at least possible to mod the map. The bottom of the atrium in V's first apartment is very detailed and even has loot spawning down there but they blocked the area off. The elevator doesn't work and they put lots of death walls to prevent us from slowly jumping down there. The exploration aspect could be so much more if we could mod that in.
Imagine if they released the source code smh… if y’all can’t finish the game let at least players do it
It's probably being kept back as a dlc. When you finish the kerry boat mission if you go to go down that road it says theres nothing here for you "Yet". They will probably release the DLC mid through this year and maybe ad a few things in between to keep people playing. They know GTA 6 is dropping next year so there going to want to squeeze it in as soon as Rockstar announced they would be realising GTA next year they immediately added more immersion.
Man I would love to watch a documentary on the development of this game from concept to 2.0
they are working on mod support (first class) maybe we can get that casino some day. I mean it would tie well into a spy thriller.
i yearn for the cyberpunk we never got, without half the game absolutely missing
i love the game we got now but man... to think it could've been so much better. if things turned out differently, cyberpunk could've been like an all time top 5 game. hearing about all this cut content just makes me sad man.
I’m so glad they’re making a sequel to this game.
They have the second half of the map already created.
I wish that they could do one more DLC to flesh out this area and some of the cut content, to help hold us over till the second game.
The entire last 3rd of the game seems to have been massively scaled back. Everything related to Kerry and the hills area, just goes by so quickly. Kerry's missions feel short, and I always felt that the part where you take the boat ride and then suck the boat felt... like a replacement? Like there was probably a whole questline related to Kerry and the casino that would have had multiple missions but instead we just get this boat ride that's totally isolated and takes place at a single location that's not very complex, just a copy - pasted boat. At least that's what I think happened, they cut a lot of stuff related to the hills, and would have probably been Kerry missions, and we got the boat thing instead.
I think they had plans for more than 1 expansion ( as they stated very early that cyberpunk will have as much post release content as witcher 3) but they took 3 extra years after release to fix the game and in order to keep with their release schedule they cut all other content which is likely going to end up added to Orion.
will the sequel "Orion" be in Night City again?
I don't know. I don't think this will be possible. but the cut content of that large section with the casino will probably be used in the future game.
Orion will definitely have two cities. one will be on earth, and the second might be on the moon.