Misty is also a fuckin' angel, just as V says in the beginning. You once again meet her at your lowest point in this ending, and she has some words of wisdom to make things seem better. My man Jackie had good taste.
@@xayvionasherman Nah, if Jackie survived his injuries, the chip probably wouldn't have taken over his body. The reason why it was taking over V's mind is because he died when he got shot by Dexter. The biochip revived him and started overwriting his mind with Johnny's engram.
@@fluffywolfo3663 I think it teased a little bit. Misty moved out there because Vic switched to Zetatech becoming dangerous messages and after an emergency V said that he wanted to go anyway
dude if my friend was gone for 2+ years and came back only to tell me they have been in a coma for the past 2 years i would do my damndest to find where they are to see if its real at first and catch up afterwards
@@tristanmccray6211IF said friend helped me save my familiy i would check and catch up with him after 2 years. Especialy IF i know that he did have coma from his Medical condition.
@liluziintrovert well if a friend like V that helped me out with all my problems (well my v did anyways), you damn well know i will be by their side to the end
No one is talking about how this is also possibly the best end for johnny. He finally got to accept death by giving up his "life" for something more tangible his crazy ideals, to save his best friend. He seems finally at peace the last time you speak, its a great reversal of the temperancr ending
they have extra lines for her in the DLC if you call her, you can tell her super vague shit about what youre doing.....just occurred to me, mabye they AI cloned her voice?@@lachskartoffel
@lachskartoffel from what I remember finishing it last night, basically you tell her about what's going on but it's early on in the dlc really so there isn't a ton to tell her at that point, basically "saved the president, working with the FIA, might have a cure". And then at the end when you text her and vik, you give vik exactly what's going on, and hit panam with a "gonna be out of town for a bit babe, but I'll be back soon"and then she never heard from you Again lol
Johnny was 100% V's friend mans legit doesn't even get mad no matter what choice you make in the end. He gets disappointed but his first thing is you ending up alive. The only moment of this shit ending that was good was legit him calling V by they real name in showing just how much he gives a shit about V
@@LunaPPK they made the ending way sadder than it should have been. Almost everyones abandoned V, why? Well, DUH, somethings gotta be bad. Judy is the only one that makes sense leaving V. But aldecaldos and panam? Hello, i became one of aldecaldos why they leaving me? River did something bad he doesnt wanna look v in the eyes, what did he do? DUH, wouldnt you want to? Its not like V lost basic human functions, he can live out his life like the rest of us, i meanboring routine job, work at FIA office job with Reed, probably decent payment too. Or he can easily become a fixer, rogue invites him.
@@maaax5092 I believe you can only message Vik before the FIA pick you up in this ending. So as far as other of V's friends are concerned, they spent two years thinking V's dead because V collapsed in front of them many times. They didn't abandon V as much as they moved on with their life (and their life circumstance changed too), and V couldn't contact them during that time, and V never notified them beforehand. And like real life, some people like Panam can be petty. If you didn't pick up their calls too often, they'll retaliate you thinking you ghosted them.
@@mickeyg7219 you can also message Panam, whoever you romanced i think. And there was a 3rd person, dont remember who. Either way, i know they moved on with their life, im not asking them to drop their lives and go to V, i'm asking them to invite V to their lives, Judy is the only one that cant do that, she is middle-low class, she doesnt have money or resources to support V. Why cant Panam invite V to join aldecados back? What the hell happened to the whole "part of the family" thing? Theres 0 reason why cant V join them and travel with them. Why cant Kerry invite V to join his world tour? Him saying, "ill be back in 2 months, maybe 4" makes me feel like he will never come back from his tour. River is the biggest asspull that i've seen, theres 0 hints in the main game that his story would turn out like this, what the fuck happened to him? Its just the writers couldnt come up with a good reason and decided to fuck up rivers life Rogue and Reed invite V to join their lives. Rogue invites V to join afterlife and Reed invites V to work at Langsley with him. These 2 people owe V LESS than the other 4. Why can these guys invite V into their lives and help him and the guys that literally OWE YOU THEIR LIVES CANT?
Character assassination of the highest order Same family that was ready to go to war with arasaka just so you had a CHANCE at survival all decide PANAM was ready to risk it all just for you, and they do this….
It is their way of living. They HAVE to stay on the road to survive. If you cannot do that, for whatever reason, they have to leave you. Also they had no idea, what is going on.
Yeah if listening all this, the cp2077 story goes for like 1-2 months. So for them you are friend, but not the best, cause you couldn't get much time spent with them
Nahhh imagine for 2 whole years you thought a friend died and then he comes back like nothing happened ? Don’t get me wrong this is depressing BUT that’s just how life is , people move on especially after someone’s disappearance (death or other)
As Judy also a little bit, when you saw, that Judy got married and not helped anymore. Would have been great if CDPR had maded a romance for V and So Mi, if you chose the moon ending
@@spidermurphy308 I can completely agree. And what's worse is it feels like there are bones of romance that they had put in for this DLC but then they dropped it all because Alex has a little bit and So Mi have a pretty decent amount. Hell basically the whole last bit when you help her go to the Moon seems like it was made before they made the decision to not have romance in the Dlc
@@RiveroftheWither I don't think half the people in this comment section played the game and realized that in the game everyone kind of has an edge by necessity considering how night city is. V's friends are actually being pretty nice here considering the circumstances.
at least Dex warned us right at the beginning "You either live in peace as Mr. Nobody, die ripe, old smelling slightly of urine, or go down for all times in a blaze of glory, smelling near like posies, without seeing your thirtieth"
@@rangopistacho6928in night city where there are different corpo shootouts on every corner constantly? Also V has built a reputation and gained a lot of enemies who would love to see him/her as powerless as they are
@@bengunn9670 Blackhand is still MIA as far as we can tell, but it's theorized that he also died and that his body is being puppetted around by an AI. Both Rouge and Adam are built different, quite literally in Adam's case. They're both ancient compared to everybody else, pretty much considered to be entirely different beings, as Jackie puts it. They both still died in the end.
i imagine that after everyone is left absolutely fuming fucking furious that arasaka lives, v gets turned into an npc and gets beat up by some random cocksuckers on the street he takes like 2 years or so to recover and becomes like morgan blackhand. No chrome or almost no chrome, all guns and skills, destroys everyone.
Honestly V called Kerry at the worst possible moment. He's clearly overwhelmed by the situation and shouts at everyone to keep the conversation going as long as possible. Judy too is pretty supporting (if you aren't a dong about it like video poster). Besides she lives on the other coast now and has a family. Can't just jump on a train for a cross country trip you know.
Plus, she watched people she care for die or be monsters in front of her. Like imagine watching someone you care for and try so hard, to kill themselves in front of you.
i know this is a late reply but i kinda love the interaction you get when you romanced Judy. i got the impression from her "dont do this to me" line that she understood the disappearance wasnt in V's control and still has strong feelings for them which is why reconnecting would compromise her new life. it was like circumstance screwed over this happy couple and they just had to maturely understand and accept that despite it being difficult.
So, V doesn't deserve any support from his "friends" after a 2-year coma. I can't relate their reaction in this ending with that snivel sorrow when V dies or commits a suicide. Ironically that only Misty and Vik, who never asked V for any help, are happy to see us alive and give a little of support.
It's more like "NC is a horrible crime ridden shithole and your one friend/merc or lover who you knew only knew for maybe a month* at most and dying suddenly disappears without a trace and comes back two years later trying to make up". They all moved on but Panam and River took it the hardest. Which is why she refuses to answer your call and why River is bitter.
You say that like most of them didn't offer V something, Judy basically offered to help V if he was in Pittsburgh, Kerry offered money because that is something he has that he can give you to help, it is not like the others aren't glad you are live but their lives have changed in the last 2 years
It could be purposely for the sequel, we know that our V died in the end, so they replaced themselves as Vincent or Valerie for our next story, who knows.
@@shell2791 V wanted to both survive and being a legend, and he got both. V’s stories has come an end as people knew he was dead and became a legend, while he survive the brainkiller chip in exchange of his name.
This ending made me really appreciate Viktor. I wish they had implemented more interaction with him. But on the other hand, it speaks volumes, that despite having less interaction with him than with any other "companion", he still sticks to you. So maybe it was necessary to get this feeling about him. Real great guy. In the end this made me really love Vik!
Surprised I don't see anyone talking about the worst part of this ending. With V in a coma for two years...who took care of Nibbles? 😢 EDIT: I see people have answered that Rogue takes him in, thankfully.
you get a message from the apartment that because you didn't pay rent they sold your stuff via auction and if I remember right they put nibbles into shelter or new owner
I love the fact that Panam was from the very beginning the ride-or-die chick we all loved to be with (aside from the River/Judy stans) but god fucking DAMN does it piss me off seeing her play the victim card as she always does then straight ghosts you and gets mitch to drop the DNC bomb on you despite telling her you've been in a fucking coma! Of all the people you'd expect to be there by your side in a heartbeat in true Nomad fashion, and she goes off to have a grump in the corner. Fuck it. Fear the Reaper it is!
yeah cause the writers couldnt let the players have a happy ending, so they come up with bs reason for everyone to ghost v. Still this endings imo is top 2, maybe top 3 for me. I see nothing wrong in langsley office work
It felt extremely out of character for Panam, you'd expect her to immediately answer when she see's V's name on her phone, and just be really happy that V is alive.
Yea I’m fine with just about everything but panam. She knew V was sick and throughout phantom liberty you tell her you are doing something that could save your life. Then when you finally call her she’s cold and distant. Seems extremely strange for her character.
In my head-canon, Panam is dead, probably cause she was so emotional over losing V that she started acting reckless and got herself killed by Wraiths or something and Mitch's message is his way of not hurting V
Not to mention that Vik is the only person who does V any favours, giving the chrome at the start of the game. V actually has to push back on paying the debt.
Amazing; an ending which makes the ones in which you die more preferable. I get what they were going for here, but the fact that Reed couldn't even pass along a message to any of the buddies/romances telling them that V was in a coma makes it feel very contrived.
It is but also V's Phone is full of fixers, murderers, and random people. How can a stranger sort this out. It was up to V to send a message they were going into an operation and while be out for a while.
@@9manny99They are FIA agents, not some random people. In the time it takes you to walk from the basketball court to the car when you meet Reed for the first time he finds out your name, where you live and what you do. They could have found out everything about you in a week if they wanted to.
@@ReallyRealGuyalso, why's the surgery gotta be secret? I can understand details being secret but how hard would it have been to let V's friends and lover(s) know "listen, the surgery taking a lot longer than expected. We understand if 2 years is a long wait but we thought you should know"
@@ReallyRealGuy FIA agents. You are assuming they want to invest more resources into V. The potential is there yes but V is only an asset that they traded a deal for. There is no value for them to have agents comb thru V's phone history to tell them V is in a Coma. Most our old friends are dead. Plus V was the current legend of night city with an electronic record in VC due to their apartment. Joe six pack and their mother calls V randomly in the middle of the game as you progress.
I know people like to generally say that everyone thats not Misty or Vik just wants to forget about V and all that Jazz, but at least Kerry is seemingly the most open in seeing V again. Though considering his busy career.... that'd be a once in a blue moon thing at this rate.
@@Anonymous37980 not in that way lmao. I assume they are still acquantances if you made it so that Kerry willingly teams up with Us Cracks during his questline
for sure. Like Kerry is on the Crystal Palace, a spaces station! He's living a great life, and V can't expect him to drop everything for them, hell, even Johnny couldn't cause him to drop it all imo
@@benmay1294 But hey, he claims that once the tour is over he'll see V as soon as possible. I just hope he keeps his word on that (good chance he will)
It's so heartbreaking after romancing Judy, V going into a coma and then coming out to realise her girlfriend has moved on and she's alone is so heartbreaking to play through, especially after getting punched down the stairs, you truly feel hopeless
Giving body to johhny - (Panam) "Believe me when i say I'm going to find you ... wherever you're hiding ... And when i do I'm gonna rip V out of your head." 2 years after being in coma - (Panam) *no answer* W H A T ... THE ... F U C K ... WHO WROTE THAT ENDING?
It’s pretty likely in this ending that she is actually just dead and Mitch doesn’t have the heart to tell you. He struggled to break the news about Scorpion, add in the out of service message and “something big coming up”, and it’s certainly a possibility.
@@TheJackal159 yeah im pretty sure, cuz it doesnt make any sense, theres no way u dissapeared and panam gets angry and thats it, she would have looked for u everywhere and even if she didnt find u she would answer after u call her and go for u, its way out of her character unless she is dead actually
why instantly go the negative route and think that the writers fucked up ? ( when we know they are amazing at what they do ) Panam is prolly dead, when you consider that, it all makes sense
@@azraelfaust487 cuz probably IS just bad writting to force It to be deppresing, actually even if she died (what i remember maybe im wrong) she calls u 55 times and she just seems angry in the texts she sends, not worried... Just angry but idk
I was about to be upset that there was a DLC locked ending where V actually gets to live, but turns out that's an even shittier fate than the rest. Well played CDPR.
That's the best ending unless V survives in "The Star". It pisses me off that people call 'bittersweet" the Sun, which is the most fucked up ending right after the Devil. (unless you attack AT only by yourself).
what you do is unlock this ending and then do "the star". best outcome for V. V keeps their friendships, has months to pursue other leads outside of NC, but has the option of calling in their favor with Reed at anytime with the biochip already taken care of, just the nervous system shit to deal with. Judy and Panam can be kept in the loop on what's going on in person before V takes off and V can be more integrated into their lives before that too. Johnny "lives" and Saka gets fucked either way.
@@Mel0D while it would be plausible at first glance... it's not possible. in The Star, V gets turned into an engram. it's safe to assume that the way alt gets you back in your body is by just swapping johnny's engram for v's in the biochip, since it doesn't seem like soulkiller is really reversible. and since v is now on the biochip, if they went to get surgery from reed, they'd be getting wiped instead... at least in theory.
"Looking for a happy ending in Night City? Wrong town, wrong people" these kinds of endings are common in the cyberpunk genre: the protag often dies, and if they don't they lose more than they started with. It's like Stout says in the beginning of the game: the only winners are the corps
Damn, this is more depressing than the suicide ending. You get to live as a shell of your former self and become a distant memory in the minds of people.
Honestly I'm wondering because it's been two years and I'm just surprised that she move that fast and forgot all about him that quickly but that's night City for you
This ending genuinely made me feel ill, like sick to my stomach, it's crushing that V goes through everything, and theres just no chance for a truly happy ending, also why do you have Johnny's arm?
you get his arm by completing the story & letting johnny take your body, you can play the final mission over n over n pick all options so he probably did johnnys ending then did this one after
Honestly after playing through the endings of phantom liberty i think the best ending would be sending songbird to the moon or killing her she does not deserve to be a lad rat also it means u don't get to play this crap ending
There used to be a glitch where an item would show up in your inventory that was gained by doing Johnny's ending, giving you his silverhand when you equip it. It's since been patched out, but those of us who have it wear it like a badge of honor
@@VsSecretChannelnot true, after the oil fields mission with johnny a hologram arm item will be in your inventory in the Misc section. You can click on it and itll give you a holo silverhand - or at least it used to.
The arm was a glitched item that shouldn't have existed for us. Getting it doesn't exist after the 1.3 patch those who already have it tho still have it
People forget to add Reed to the list of real ones if you don't betray him Reed pushes the NUSA to give V a home and FIA job in Virgina when abandoned by everyone except Vik (and Misty)
main villain is myers, millitech and arasaka with yorinobu or saburo hanako might brought some change....we might get a conclusion in future cyberpunk orion
Everything V had is gone - their reputation, their home, their guns, their souvenirs, most people they knew either forgot about him or don't care that much about them, they can't become a mercenary again and best they can do is to live a normal boring generic life until somebody either shoots them on the street unless they move out from NC. This is truly the worst fucking ending you can have. With V dying half a year after Mikoshi, they at least will be remembered by thousands if not millions as the man/woman who single handedly went into the Arasaka Tower, faced dozens of best of the best Arasaka had to offer, killed Adam Smasher without breaking a sweat, destroyed Arasaka's secret project that nobody, not even biggest corporations could even get close to, ruined their reputation for years if not permanently and most importanly - they will be remembered as the best Edgerunner to ever exist. Don't Fear the Reaper people...
Atleast you acknowledge that V can be either male or female sick of these people calling V her instead of just V don't get me wrong female V is great and Cherami Leigh is so damn good but everyone forgets the Male V and Gavin Drea is also really damn good
Their reputation isn't gone and he isn't forgotten. Rogue says that V is still known in the afterlife after 2 years. V can still become a fixer. He has the money and connections. A fixer life is still exciting. Rogue does say that V returning could make his legend disappear. But V could just lie and say that he willingly retired from the merc life and just wants to become a fixer instead. His legendary status remains and he stays safe. With training V can get the fitness of a regular human and recover from the coma. He would be able to fend off the average thug trying to rob him.
This ending really shows all these "freinds" and "romances" for who they really are. If you romanced Judy she just tells you not to come after knowingly shattering your world like that. And Panam just ghosting you? River and Kerry? Seems the only people who have even a sliver of care for V are Vic and Misty. Though even Misty is shake cause she really let you stay in night city in the condition you are.
To be fair they had to move on I mean if it was for a month I get sticking around but still it's been 2 years and it honestly makes sense that they just moved on. But it still sucks so I do agree on that point, however, I sort of see this as a character development point for V as after this they truly see what the world and the people is with a mix of perspective from Johnny's side learning to be more calculative and pragmatic while being equally daring in hopes of continuing their sort of legacy. And it all boils into them becoming this sort of Morgan Blackhand character of sorts that you only just hear about through rumors and whispers but it's always tied to huge events that shake the world of Cyberpunk to it's core.
V told them he wasn't going to see them soon, so with him disappearing and no context, they had no choice but to think he ghosted or died. Remember, the world of Cyberpunk is very deadly and V was barely holding on when they met last time, so this could have been like the failed Don't fear the reader ending reaction. Also, remember the story couldn't have taken more than a few moths at best. I think this ending was the game critiquing you for going the comfortable way, killing Johnny and taking the easy way out, kinda like the devil ending.
Panam is probably dead or out of the coverage area since I doubt she stays in night city without V there. River is still the worst romance and this just reinforced that 😂
@@jackwellington9863 No. This ending just shows that no one really cares about V unless V is fixing their problems. My V would drop everything to at least try to help them if they popped up. This has nothing to do with moving on and everything to do with helping a friend clearly in need.
The worst part of this ending by far, unfortunately. The fact that we weren't allowed to text or phone Panam (or whoever you romanced) and basically go "Hey, I'm heading off to an undisclosed location for experimental treatment. I wish I could tell you more, but I might be gone a while. Please don't forget me." This is a glaring omission and surprisingly bad writing for a story of this caliber. The way it's written now, it makes certain characters' reactions way too strong. We're also talking about 2 fucking years. Not 5. Not 10. *Two years.* A lot can change, but it's also not an unfathomable, unrecoverable amount of time. Think about the difference between October 2021 and October 2023. It's a long time. But not THAT long. For someone in V's predicament, yeah, I just don't buy that most of their friends would abandon or be mad at them for something that was outside of their fucking control (a medically-induced coma). That aside, I think this ending is wonderfully bittersweet, and the conversation you have with Johnny in the airlift on the way to surgery is one of the most touching and heart-breaking scenes in the entire game. So I'm still happy we got it. Just wish some of the misery & bitterness wasn't so forced and rushed.
i mean you gotta keep in mind, the main story occurs over a time period of a couple of months, maybe? V has only known these people like panam or judy for honestly a pretty short period of time, a few weeks/maybe a few months at most. If someone you've been dating for only a few weeks/months just up and ghosts you without saying a word, yeah after two years which is a decent amount of time, you're gonna have moved on.
@@Sharpie_17 That's true, but I think we also have to keep in mind that the relationships & bonds V forms over the course of this time aren't your typical, casual dating. Knowing all we go through with Panam and the Nomads, and knowing Panam as a character (and how she reacts to V's disappearance in the Temperance/Johnny body ending). It just doesn't line up and feels forced to me. The other characters? Sure, yeah. I can buy it.
I'm so confused because I haven't played PL yet, but is there a reason none of them knew you were going to have this surgery? I think it's pretty stupid V can't let them know the situation.
@@hogue_music V does get a chance to message them about it, but their messages are so vague that it feels forced that way so that we can have a (just as forced) bitter outcome. Reed does tell you to not tell anyone any specifics because it's government shit, but a simple "Hi Panam, I'm sorry i can't tell you more, but I'm heading into experimental surgery, and I might be gone for a long while. Please contact so and so if you don't hear from me for a few months." would have sufficed. That's really the part that bothers me. It's a contrived way of arriving at the destination that is *this ending.*
bro the least they could have fking done is at least tell them he is alive if not comatose. I would have settled for the nurses taking a selfie next to a bedridden V instead of radio silence.@@kikosawa
@@captainanus8131 I wanna reiterate what he said, because it's still the answer here: how often do real CIA facilities inform vague friends and other randos of anything?
They still sprinkle bits of hope in here. V COULD get implants if they were custom made. Viktor is STILL willing to try everything for you, so much up to interpretation. It pains me and facinates me that there is no definitive good end for V
Nah this is most realistic and good one it sympolizes evolfe adn acdeptence V can begin a new and peaceful life without drama or vialiton he prob accept reed offer and live peacefully
@@ramon4184yeah because they can’t handle the life that V wants. Which is understandable, at least V has what he wants and his friends, love lost can always be re obtained. Now becoming a shell of your former self and seeing all your friends going through crap while you were in a coma for two years and no longer being able to help them. That’s tough.
@@bartome7oit doesn’t make sense to be honest, no way Saul would let that shit slide either, v saved his life. Also saved mitches life too so the holocall makes no sense. Once they find out the truth, how could they mad at V?This is just a misery porn ending I’m so annoyed at CDPR
To me this is probably the most realistic ending. Using the neural matrix sounded like a safer choice but ended up backfiring, and everything's gone to shit like they usually would. Getting back to NC but seeing it almost in a martial law state, while Doc Vik ending up signing a contract with Zetatech just tells you how depressing and hopeless the cyberpunk world is.
The real shit is that NC is in martial law because Arasaka is pulling back, but just that. Yorinobu had his plan work, but it stll did nothing. He was ousted as CEO before he could destroy Arasaka and the Corpo domination of society. No one can change a thing, not even if you are at the absolute top.
This final is awesome BESIDES the Judy/Panam part. Panam is even worse. The game do not allow you to tell them clearly about the surgery that will happen, and Panam reaction after knowing about your coma for me do not fit her behaviour.
This ending feels really odd. V can text Vic and and his/her romantic partner before leaving, they know V has found a way to save himself/herself The aldecaldos are completely out of character, especially Panam Judy, Kerry, River, Misty, Vic I find believeable how they changed, yet it's obvious they went as hard as possible to make V misrable through them. And V could really just take the FIA job and leave that godforsaken city.
The aldecaldos at one point literally call V an honorary member, and extend them an offer to join whenever. It really pisses me off that like we save Sauls life, when we didn't have to. Saved the camp when we didn't have to, and helped Mitch give Scorpion a proper send off, and they don't at minimum say they're happy to see us? All V had to do was one job with Panam, and they could've dropped the entire Nomad questline. Instead, V went out of their way with no pay mind you to use their insane skills, and final moments to actually help people. What are they repaid with? A bunch of shity messages, and Mitch telling someone who is literally family to never call again, despite V risking their ass MULTIPLE times to save them despite dying themselves. If I was my V, I'd take the job offered to me at the FIA, and pull some strings to get an escort to the aldecados current camp to give those fuckers a piece of my mind. Hell V has the connections to become their own damn Fixer in NC, and if kept on the down low won't be touched with a ten foot pole considering the reputation he has. We're also not going to talk about the fact that he could still Net Run, because those shards aren't implants, they're just hardware. My V technically is still the greatest Net Runner since Alt-Cunningham. The ending doesn't make any sense for people (me) who did a pure netrun build, and basically ignored cybernetic implants for better programs, hardware, armor, and guns.
@@notleviathan855nah, netrunner V is actually one of the builds that are invalidated, cause to be anywhere near effective, he'd need a military grade cyberdeck. A shitton of skills don't require any cyberware, although after 2 years of coma, he'd probably have to spend quite some time and effort getting his ganics back to his peak. Basically any build, that doesn't rely on implants to work is still valid tho, even if they will be a glass cannon. A blade build is still deadly af with knives and blades, just less resilient. A stealth build just has to make do without optical camo and other crutches. A body build can still tank like crazy and shoot heavy weapons and punch like crazy.
What do you even know about Aldecaldos? You knew them for a month tops. With that kind of background, 2 years is enough to forget why you were even close at some point
Tbf, Judy response to Male V is a lot nicer if you don’t choose the aggressive dialogue. Panam wasn’t even her response, she just got over your 2 years disappearance and judging by how emotional she is, Mitch decided to intervene to stop you from making Panam going ape shit again, which i can understand. Kerry is basically Johnny Silverhand but without aggression against corporations so his response make sense. River is literally trying not to bring you into his giant ass mess.
@@MafiavelliMich tells you in the credits that Panam was devastated by your disappearance, and that she doesn't want you to call because she can't deal with the situation.
@@secondaryfront Heh, you get the first feeling of that when she wants you to help her kill Rouge Wraith contact. Next time i will just say "fuck you" after we get the car.
@@lucask4377 if I had a friend and thought he was dead just to find out he was alive I’d be mad yes but I’d go get my buddy… maybe you shouldn’t have friends since you’d just forsake them
I always love Vik, he's that one character that reminds me of all of my IRL friends that I can call and just chat with, like we never stopped talking.. Also meeting Misty at the end was really nice too, they're the true real ones in Night City.
It depends on how you see things, V in the story if a victim of fate, and in a way this is a way for them to break the chains of fate, they lost the ability to be a merc but maybe that is for the better, their old life is gone so they can really move on from all of it, they have a chance to rebuild their life from scratch, maybe everyone he knew moved on with their lives in those 2 years, but you can tell that a lot of them still care for V but they have their own lives, and V hasn't been a part of it for 2 years. I am sure that if V went to Pittsburgh Judy would help them to settle there if they wanted that, I am sure that after Kerry's tour he would be willing to give V a job in the band, River is just neck deep in shit and doesn't want you to get involved in it because he cares, Panam held out hope for over a year that V would return and her text messages show it ate at her that she could never know if you were dead or had just ghosted somewhere else and cut everyone off. The world doesn't revolve around V and their needs, and simply put everyone else had their own lives to handle, I am sure that if V makes an effort to re-integrate himself into the lives of his friends he would be welcomed back but you can't expect them to move for you when they have their own lives and problems to handle
It is a sad ending yes. But I feel V messed up on this. If he knew that something could go wrong with this operation, then he should have told someone about what's going on in case he dies or be in a coma. Like where to find him or at least say he is getting surgery for the chip and won't know what will happen. He was very vague to people he's close to so this what happens.
Yes exactly. He should have called Panam before going for surgery, instead of a simple text. Tell her whats happening and where he is and how to get in touch with Reed. She wouldn't have ghosted V.
@@AdilDIlyas Well the thing is that them having to extract the parts of his brain that got fucked was not in the plans for the surgery, and V pretty much was knocked out in the AV and woke up two years later
The biggest thing is that them having to do so much to fix him up was beyond expectations and most likely something that had to be done in the OR as they were in surgery to save V
@@ryanbaker5296 Why writers? V actually says to his friends that he might be out for a month. He couldn't predict that there will some complications. So V's friends after not seeing any responses from V assumed that he actually didn't survive the surgery. So they moved on with their lives at some point because they cannot grief forever and they have to live. Judy found someone but at least she picked up the call. Panam because of her character assumed the worst that V after surgery basically went to live his life and forget about her and while I get she might be angry it doesn't justify her not picking up the phone and actually talk even if it meant to just end things between V and her. River fucked up his life even more then before which is a trait for this character.
Honestly this is the saddest ending for V since he lost his identity cause of the surgery and is left alone in world, now just a NC resident rather than the NC Legend we built him up to be and sucks that the man who fought/helped many is now a left behind by everyone he helped. Just like Johnny said "taking a man's identity is worse than death"
Realistically, only way this, ending can be good is if you don’t create emotional connections with the people you meet along the way as heartless as it may seem, you won’t feel abandoned if there’s no one to abandon you Also: interested in hearing other peoples opinions on that
Well for V he has only known these people for a few weeks. A month at most. V should really be attached to Vic and Misty. But they don't completely abandon V. V barely knows River. V saved his family and they had dinner together. Not much other than that. V would feel betrayed by River not wanting anything to do with V though I guess. Judy doesn't abandon V. She just moved on. If anything she moves on in the main game as well. If you are friends with her she moves out of night city and sends you text messages of her vising her grand parents. Is that her abandoning you? No it isn't. She is just living her life. She even says that if you are ever in around they can meet each other. Kerry still wants to talk with V so he hasn't abandoned you. For Panam like I said before V would realistically have only known her for a couple of weeks. Like sure it would suck that all of the people you know have moved on. But if I was V I would just be happy that I am alive. I would work with the NUSA or I would become a fixer. I would go and visit Kerry and Judy since they still are on okay terms with me. Also it is not impossible for V to try to mend relations with Panam and River. Though it would be unlikely. V would have the money and connections to help River. V also probably has the money to find out where the Aldecaldos are. Saul did say that V would always be welcome with he Aldecaldos. But I don't see Panam forgiving V.
@@drlukas4242 And what about Jackies mother? Jackie and V were best chooms and you can't even call her before the surgery nor after. That's one big missed oportunity!
Idk I think that the abandonment isn't that bad and people overblow how "depressing" this ending is V basically gets a fresh start at life, what's there to be sad about? a few lost friends is nothing when compared to your entire life
nah for me it was sad because v won't have a chance to live like before the surgery anymore, it felt like she became disabled and it was the most heartbreaking thing in this ending
Outta of all the people she hurt me the most!!! Moved on after 2 years after we did for her saving Saul the clan and helping them get on their feet. Then they called you family and they would do anything for you......tells you panam moved on and NOT to call back. 😢 my v's a nomad hearing a family doesn't want you to come back to them........hurts
Panam..not geting back to you.. Just nothing, really twists my stomach. Like, you did a lot for her.. compared to a lot of these other guys.. You did so much for her clan and everything. And yeah she waited well over a year. Just man. Shit turns my stomach inside out. Makes me feel awful, made me just wanna quit and do another ending.. Because not having her felt the worst when compared to anything.
Unless its something im missing it says shes out of cell range, meaning she didnt get the message. admittedly ik nothing past this scene but if this is it then you cant be mad at her if she still doesnt know
This makes the Nomad ending doubly better, since V could cash in the favor after getting out with the aldecaldos and live a nice happy life Edit: V can call up the NUSA and get treatment for her condition after the game ends, Misty's reading basically confirms that V lives in the aldecaldo ending and maybe the temperance ending
Ik I’m in the minority but I still think this is a good ending for V. Like, sure people move on and stuff but that’s just how it goes in real life too. By the time you’re in your late 20s…many friends you knew from school have moved across the country, gotten married & have kids now, or simply lost touch so you don’t see them anymore. Not many interactions apart from a hb message once a year. Or if you’re both in the same city, you can grab a beer together. Sounds sad but that’s life.
The ghost of a living legend. You are still alive, the people around you yet live, but the person that you were is gone with a gust of wind that was laced with gunpowder-like a musician that can no longer hear their tune, or a singer that has gone mute. You are still alive, but those closest to you are distant-some of whom forever out of reach, and even those that remained are changed by this damned city. You are still alive, but the dreams and hopes and memories of those that fought at your side are gone. Lost with the person that you once were and not possible to be maintained by who you are now. . . . Are you truly still alive?
You don't need to pick this ending in fact playing through the other ending of Phantom Lib I told the President Don't ever Contact me Again (It was either that or see this Ending again). I weather have 6 months with Panam & Judy then this shit Ending.
@@discoinferno103hey guys I’m going to get a really difficult surgery but it’s going to be done by the top professionals in the world and I might die but hold onto hop that I’m coming back
Imagine after this Ending in the Sequel V really becomes a Fixer. Cold hearted and Pragmatic Fixer. Instead of Cyberware He / She relies on weapons and their body. This Ending doesnt mean it has to be permanent. This ending has a lot of room.
0:30 One thing I hate the most about V is his indirect, rarely honest straight to the point way of talking. He rarely tells people the full truth of what goes on, and never really explain details. Like when dexter thought we killed arasaka, V never told him what really happened and just let Dexter assume we really killed him.
@@putinyoutosleep6184 Thats the thing, how would we known that? Dexter was freaking cause he believed something, and V not just saying what happened, and instead V just getting angry and deflecting, made dexter believe his viewpoint was true and caused him to think of the betrayal. I truly think that if V told dexter how it actually went down, I feel like dexter would possibly calm down and think more clearly
@@putinyoutosleep6184 Thats the thing, as soon as dexter accused him, V had alot of time to actually say what really happened. He kinda went with it and let Dexter assume the absolute worse. The second he said " I didnt tell you to off the emperor", I would had said I did, It was his son and then tell the story. I know adrenaline is high but I rather set the record straight asap 😵💫😵💫
This ending created me a new fear, the fear to loose everything while I can't do anything to stop it. I never cared about that, but now it's frightening me
My god, what a sh!t ending! The people that turned their backs on him was wrong. I mean you formed these relationships by helping them and this is the way they treat you? Wow. Dude was in a coma, you'd think after hearing that they will put their anger aside... guess not. So yeah, looks like the Nomad ending is the best. At least with that one there's this sense of hope that V found a way to get himself cured. I like to think that with all of the connections he made, they all put their heads together to find a way to get him help.
I like how only you and 28 other ppl think it was a shit ending😂 Johnny himself sed it. “ you expect happy endings. For ppl like us? Wrong ppl. Wrong city.” This game was nvr meant to have a happy ending and I’m absolutely in love with that. Not everything in life is a fairytale lmao.
I don't think that they turned their backs on V, but rather they can't drop everything in their lives for V, V isn't the center of their world and you have to understand that it has been two years since they last heard anything about V, they are all glad you are alive but you can't just slot in like nothing ever happened, because a lot happened in the time you were gone. Judy offers to help V if they are in Pittsburgh, Kerry offers you Eddies so you can look out for yourself because that all he can offer at the moment, River keeps you from getting caught up in his problems, Panam likely was the one that held hope the longest (from the text messages it was over a year she kept trying to contact V), Reed offers you a job at the FIA so you aren't just abandoned and unable to look after yourself, Viktor offers to try and see if something can be done, Misty encourages you to look to the future like she is. I don't think everyone is angry at V, but rather glad to see you are alive, everyone handled it differently, Panam likely still hasn't fully recovered from you disappearing, Judy was mad before but realised that if you could have you would have contacted her, Kerry was busy with his career but is glad to see you are alive and wants to help you land on your feet with the thing he has in excess which are Eddies he might not have time but he has money and can help you while you figure things out.
@@TaintedxPurist I like how you couldn't reply without being rude as hell. But honestly, it's more like 'you and 28 other ppl think it was a good ending.' Most people think this was a bad ending. And I get not everything in life is a fairtale, you are talking to a guy who grew up in the projects... I get it more than most. But this isn't life... it's a videogame. It's just rough when the 'good' ending is still depressing. All in all after watching his a few more times I do get the silver lining. V can now have a new start and that's pretty cool.
For me this ending hit really hard, I never really realized what I had in life because I was living through it. Things do change but gradually and they may not always be the best but like Johnny said “Sometimes you gotta let go”
for me this would be the canon ending always, dont care bout no blackwall, my good times with johnny, judy etc. alot of people who played this game purposely forget that we are playing as V rather than themselves. and that the only reason V even accepted songbird request was for her to stay alive. V wants to stay alive and i made sure she did. all the noise of humanity, corpos blah blah is just noise. The story was about V, she lives on, even if she is a face in the crowd, she lives. that's probably the best you can get in a fucked up place like night city and the cyberpunk world.
Puts all those "friends" in a really bad light to see that none, absolutely none thought "wow, V might be in danger, let's try to find her/him". Of course NUSA docs not calling the most-called numbers on V's phone is just terrible either.
This makes me get The Sun ending only, without Panam or Judy romance, imagine doing all their quests and get this, because after everything you've done they say "fuck you".
Judy breaking her end of the news is so bittersweet, she has found that piece of happiness both V and her talk about without V and it feels so depressing to return to NC with that knowledge
I like to think that maybe one day Panam would see his message, if she's somehow still alive, and end up messaging him. I mean a coma for two years is a pretty good reason to not have been answering
@@CatLover-gk8uu seems out of character from her. let’s say PL is canon, put some logic to it, panam set the record straight she is a ride or die chick, if she finds out you’re in a coma she will look for a cure. there isn’t a right or wrong answer as to what happen, but i’m leaning towards she got killed in the pursuit trying to find you
So The nomad ending is still the best because you live remember Misty's never been wrong so far with us (even Jackie if you think about it) and this ending is guaranteed life for the doubters in the back but guess what? You can't defend yourself and you have gigantic targets on your back from basically every gang in NC even some Russian military affiliates so you're kind of screwed.
You helped. Stop picturing V as some kind of messiah. Everyone apart from Panam have a good-ass reason to be this way. And Panam... we know her. She's impulsive. Those 55 missed calls don't give any thoughts to you? Even if you are back, she's long past that. That's how people work.
@@kikosawa nah Panam had no one to hold her had to actually try and find you like a real person would. So instead she blows up your phone, and gives up lol.
To be honest it is very hard to ask for people to drop everything and meet V after 2 years. That is very normal, and takes time for them to build the bridge again. We always have to remember, its not just you that lost a friend, they also lost a friend.
To everybody saying “Oh Vik and Misty are the real ones” bruh they pulled a Daenerys from game of thrones, changing the characters, personality to suit the story. If your girlfriend Panam thought that something bad had happened to you she would have torn down half of night city to find you. Not given up after reaching your voicemail. She’s one of the most loyal loving stubborn people in the world. They just changed that so they could be like “Haha you’ll live but isn’t this shit dark?”
naaaah. Fading away from that killer-mercenary life and Night City is actually a good thing. A fresh start for V and most importantly freedom and all the strings cut off. The only ending that gives V the opportunity for a happy and long life. To me it's the best one out there
There is no happy endings in night city, although old friends like Vik had V covered.. glad the last person we spoke to was misty.. really needed that,
The fact that you've still got Kerry and Viktor hits hard. Maybe at the least, you could get Kerry to give you some kind of job working for him. A high technical ability V could "recalibrate holoprojectors" like he said he was going to for Us Cracks or something. If nothing else, give him a job in marketing or something. As busy as he may be, he legitimately does care. And Vik? Vik is still himself. Couldn't ask for a better friend or doctor.
so panam never thought "hey theres no way this guy would ever do something like this to me we need to search for him and turn over every stone in night city until we do" Kerry would have the funds River is a "private eye" and Vick and Misty were the only leads they had! Judy moving on with her life after everything she went through is perfectly fine but theres no way none of these guys should have just given up after you clearly stated you'd be having life changing surgery and then ghosting
I know, the entire thing stinks of CDPR making a way you can live then rembering that there are supposedly no happy endings in Night City, which is BS they are rare but they do happen
@@MasterLittica v waking up to all of his friends hearing about all the fucked up stuff that happened in his absence and not being able to do anything about it because he's been rendered a normal person would have been just fine
not sure why people think this ending is depressing, its bittersweet. like Johnny said, sometimes we just have to give up and let go.... its part of life.
Bittersweet? Motherfucker everyone V made friends with or romanced doesn't care about them. Panam ghosted him, River and Kerry couldn't care less, the only ones who seem to care are Vik and Misty. This is depressing everyone V ever cared for even a little over the course of the game fuckin abandons him
THANK YOU. This ending is literally the only thing that makes sense. This is what V has been fighting for since Konpeki Plaza. Survival. Besides as for Panam and Judy who knows what could happen down the line now that V is alive. Better that than him dead. Sounds pretty shitty regardless but the possibility is still there.
This ending reminds me of something I had through: Loss of something important through a painful change. So I think it's a best ending, just because it's all ended. For real. Finally.
@@slimmoses4129whats the reason to survive if your loved ones arent there with you? At the end of the day, that’s why we live. Because of our loved ones. Thats why we want to survive. Put us in a world of no people, and we will not last very long and if we do last, its only in hopes that the people will come back. Always think about whats important, this is why you fight. Because the alternative of living without the people you love is much worse. Especially in this ending.
@@WorldKeepsSpinnin Man cmon if the only reason why you wanna live is for others then there’s no reason for you to live anyway. Judy has always thought about leaving NC to pursue a better life, and that’s exactly what she got. Why be aggressive towards that? It’s what she would want lol. As for Panam, her reaction makes sense…but judging from the other endings she’ll come around. She damn near has some sort of sick obsession towards V and woman like that always come around LOL! Trust me.
This is real ending. Also, I think surgery was secret and no one supposed to know about it, I think mainly because it was done using Rogue AI which is big taboo. Also, Reed said doctors knew to the day when he will wake up, it points to the fact that coma was artificial. Even Doc in the AV said his nervous system was perfectly fine. So I guess surgery was done quick, but they left him in coma for a reason. To remove his trace. Also it is possible that Rogue AI extracted from Matrix weakened his system on purpose, to let him live but render him useless. Because alternatively if V sends Songbird to the Luna she gets her surgery and recovery real fast and even sends him a gift and text. How come FIA took 2 years to do whatever blackmarket clinic did in a days or weeks.
I was really sad at this ending. Even the suicide ending didn't make me this sad. The ending of going with Judy and the Nomads is still a better ending. I vowed not to do this ending again. We were not people who deserved this treatment.
Having Vik being the only one that sticks with V after 2 years, makes the 20k debt you owe him worth doing
man after this I would pay him 2M not gonna lie
gotta remember tho all of these people v's met have only known him for like 2 weeks, not logn at all
@@Speedy0903that is true too ig, gotta take that into consideration, but thag also means they shouldnt be so mad at him
@@PotionSeller369 indeed
Misty is also a fuckin' angel, just as V says in the beginning. You once again meet her at your lowest point in this ending, and she has some words of wisdom to make things seem better. My man Jackie had good taste.
If Jackie was alive, he probably would have been there as V woke up.
Fuck, would have been a dream to see him again and eat dinner with him, misty and mama welles
if Jackie was alive, nothing would probably happen
@@ManaTheSacrificeif Jackie was alive HE’D be the one waking up 😂😂 or did we forget he slotted the chip 1st
@@xayvionasherman Nah, if Jackie survived his injuries, the chip probably wouldn't have taken over his body. The reason why it was taking over V's mind is because he died when he got shot by Dexter. The biochip revived him and started overwriting his mind with Johnny's engram.
nah jackie woulda woken V’s ass up
Choosing this ending is answering Dexter's question from the car ride
What was the question?
@@JungéShikisanki "go out in a blaze of glory or choose the quiet life"
@@JungéShikisanki Rather live the quiet life or go down in a blaze of glory
Poetic huh
@@mikealgiers7852Go down in a blaze of glory is legit the Don’t Fear The Reaper ending.
Viktor is the real G he is ready to help you after you ghosted him for 2 years, without hesitation
You had no other option. 2 years coma and you texted your friends before the AV came to get you.
It's a coma , I'm pretty sure they had no choice and Vic knows V well.
What I mean is Viktor didn't hesitate, not that V didn't hesitate
It almost feels like V is ready to find out that Viktor disappointed him lol
@@fluffywolfo3663 I think it teased a little bit. Misty moved out there because Vic switched to Zetatech becoming dangerous messages and after an emergency V said that he wanted to go anyway
dude if my friend was gone for 2+ years and came back only to tell me they have been in a coma for the past 2 years i would do my damndest to find where they are to see if its real at first and catch up afterwards
You talking about your friend for years or Your friend of a couple of weeks or a month ?
@@tristanmccray6211and in these few weeks they saved your family, your clan and tried to help your friends when no one else does
@@tristanmccray6211IF said friend helped me save my familiy i would check and catch up with him after 2 years. Especialy IF i know that he did have coma from his Medical condition.
The issue is in these characters lives, they've only known V for a couple of weeks or months. Life moves fast in Night City.
@liluziintrovert well if a friend like V that helped me out with all my problems (well my v did anyways), you damn well know i will be by their side to the end
No one is talking about how this is also possibly the best end for johnny. He finally got to accept death by giving up his "life" for something more tangible his crazy ideals, to save his best friend. He seems finally at peace the last time you speak, its a great reversal of the temperancr ending
Everyone: we love Panam
Cd projekt red: oh yeah? Well she doesn’t love you anymore
Chances are she’s dead in this ending
as far as i know, they couldnt get the Voice actress again, but i cant verify that.
they have extra lines for her in the DLC if you call her, you can tell her super vague shit about what youre doing.....just occurred to me, mabye they AI cloned her voice?@@lachskartoffel
@@yoyo7718 cant remeber talking to her aobut vague shit, but if its that it's possible they took previously unused voice lines of her
@lachskartoffel from what I remember finishing it last night, basically you tell her about what's going on but it's early on in the dlc really so there isn't a ton to tell her at that point, basically "saved the president, working with the FIA, might have a cure". And then at the end when you text her and vik, you give vik exactly what's going on, and hit panam with a "gonna be out of town for a bit babe, but I'll be back soon"and then she never heard from you Again lol
Somewhat makes me wonder if V ever really had a friend in anyone outside of vik, misty, and Jackie
Johnny was 100% V's friend mans legit doesn't even get mad no matter what choice you make in the end. He gets disappointed but his first thing is you ending up alive.
The only moment of this shit ending that was good was legit him calling V by they real name in showing just how much he gives a shit about V
@@LunaPPK they made the ending way sadder than it should have been. Almost everyones abandoned V, why? Well, DUH, somethings gotta be bad. Judy is the only one that makes sense leaving V. But aldecaldos and panam? Hello, i became one of aldecaldos why they leaving me? River did something bad he doesnt wanna look v in the eyes, what did he do? DUH, wouldnt you want to?
Its not like V lost basic human functions, he can live out his life like the rest of us, i meanboring routine job, work at FIA office job with Reed, probably decent payment too. Or he can easily become a fixer, rogue invites him.
@@maaax5092 I believe you can only message Vik before the FIA pick you up in this ending. So as far as other of V's friends are concerned, they spent two years thinking V's dead because V collapsed in front of them many times.
They didn't abandon V as much as they moved on with their life (and their life circumstance changed too), and V couldn't contact them during that time, and V never notified them beforehand.
And like real life, some people like Panam can be petty. If you didn't pick up their calls too often, they'll retaliate you thinking you ghosted them.
@@mickeyg7219 you can also message Panam, whoever you romanced i think. And there was a 3rd person, dont remember who.
Either way, i know they moved on with their life, im not asking them to drop their lives and go to V, i'm asking them to invite V to their lives, Judy is the only one that cant do that, she is middle-low class, she doesnt have money or resources to support V. Why cant Panam invite V to join aldecados back? What the hell happened to the whole "part of the family" thing? Theres 0 reason why cant V join them and travel with them. Why cant Kerry invite V to join his world tour? Him saying, "ill be back in 2 months, maybe 4" makes me feel like he will never come back from his tour. River is the biggest asspull that i've seen, theres 0 hints in the main game that his story would turn out like this, what the fuck happened to him? Its just the writers couldnt come up with a good reason and decided to fuck up rivers life
Rogue and Reed invite V to join their lives. Rogue invites V to join afterlife and Reed invites V to work at Langsley with him. These 2 people owe V LESS than the other 4. Why can these guys invite V into their lives and help him and the guys that literally OWE YOU THEIR LIVES CANT?
@@LunaPPK I'm sorry, yes johnny was an awesome friend as well
aldecaldos when you're dying: "you're family"
aldecaldos when you live: "you're disowned"
Character assassination of the highest order
Same family that was ready to go to war with arasaka just so you had a CHANCE at survival all decide
PANAM was ready to risk it all just for you, and they do this….
It is their way of living. They HAVE to stay on the road to survive.
If you cannot do that, for whatever reason, they have to leave you.
Also they had no idea, what is going on.
@@thebigquack6945They are unable to stop it’s dangerous for them you ghost them and disappear it’s not their fault
aldecaldos was the shittiest like theyre wasnt came with us to death and OUH U LEFT ME UH HUH wtf is that bullshit
@@harunyaman6471 Well think about this supposedly in this ending she is dead she was your connection to the Aldecaldos simple as that
Damn the only person that stuck with V is Doc Viktor
And he gets done dirty by life 😢
What makes this worse that in the credits, he's apparently being moved away from Night City.
So by the end, even Viktor is being taken away from V
@@Ulqui_210Well, there is Rogue. And she can maybe introduce her to the world of Fixers
@@MeteorArchive as she said he welcome at the after life but he would tarnish his reputation
Not true, Misty helps and Kerry does as well.
In this ending it feels like you never truly mattered to them
You didn't have much time to solidify yourself in their lives. These additional 6 months you shared with Vik and Misty really mattered.
Yeah if listening all this, the cp2077 story goes for like 1-2 months. So for them you are friend, but not the best, cause you couldn't get much time spent with them
@@kikosawa Nah, fuck Panam for actively holding a grudge against V for over two years. Bitch probably saw the call coming and gave a salty side eye
@@carnifex17 Vik says you have a couple weeks at most, so he probably had even less time to spend with them.
Nahhh imagine for 2 whole years you thought a friend died and then he comes back like nothing happened ?
Don’t get me wrong this is depressing BUT that’s just how life is , people move on especially after someone’s disappearance (death or other)
Megabuilding H10 Administrator's response hit too bad
he sold the cat xD
As soemone who romanced Panam, my heart hurts.
Really hurts man........😢
As Judy also a little bit, when you saw, that Judy got married and not helped anymore. Would have been great if CDPR had maded a romance for V and So Mi, if you chose the moon ending
Poorly written romance final. Me too. If she had died for some reason during V coma it would at least make more sense.
@@Felipe_Ribeir0it almost feels like they couldn't get the voice actress back for some reason and that's why they did it that way.
@@spidermurphy308 I can completely agree. And what's worse is it feels like there are bones of romance that they had put in for this DLC but then they dropped it all because Alex has a little bit and So Mi have a pretty decent amount. Hell basically the whole last bit when you help her go to the Moon seems like it was made before they made the decision to not have romance in the Dlc
Nah. Viktor is the GOAT. He been there for us, and even 2 years after, he is still there for us. REAL FRIEND.
At the end credits he says that the corpo will move him to another city. Real sad
All these people.
"No, im angry you didnt contact me in 2 years, i dont care that you were literally in a coma, thats no excuse"
Literally all of them but Kerry cared and spoke to V kindly after. What are you on about?
@@RiveroftheWither I don't think half the people in this comment section played the game and realized that in the game everyone kind of has an edge by necessity considering how night city is. V's friends are actually being pretty nice here considering the circumstances.
They’ve known each other for a week or two) IDK if they are even friends
at least Dex warned us right at the beginning
"You either live in peace as Mr. Nobody, die ripe, old smelling slightly of urine, or go down for all times in a blaze of glory, smelling near like posies, without seeing your thirtieth"
“Surviving is winning, everything else is bullshit. Fairy tales spun by people too afraid to look life in the eye.”
so what we dont count adam smasher or blackhand, dexs logic is kinda flawed, seems more like you can be a legend but still live till 50 at least
@@rangopistacho6928in night city where there are different corpo shootouts on every corner constantly? Also V has built a reputation and gained a lot of enemies who would love to see him/her as powerless as they are
@@Yh-vi2svsame goes for Smasher or blackhand? Rouge too.
@@bengunn9670 Blackhand is still MIA as far as we can tell, but it's theorized that he also died and that his body is being puppetted around by an AI. Both Rouge and Adam are built different, quite literally in Adam's case. They're both ancient compared to everybody else, pretty much considered to be entirely different beings, as Jackie puts it. They both still died in the end.
Man with this ending...this is how a villain arc starts.
Anakin I mean V sky walker
Good material for the sequel imo. Secret twist at the end, it was V all along!
i imagine that after everyone is left absolutely fuming fucking furious that arasaka lives, v gets turned into an npc and gets beat up by some random cocksuckers on the street he takes like 2 years or so to recover and becomes like morgan blackhand. No chrome or almost no chrome, all guns and skills, destroys everyone.
Yeah right, what's he gonna do? Slap 'em all with those banana arms?
@@kikosawaCarnage shotgun and the Body stat still exist. No chrome needed for those.
Honestly V called Kerry at the worst possible moment. He's clearly overwhelmed by the situation and shouts at everyone to keep the conversation going as long as possible.
Judy too is pretty supporting (if you aren't a dong about it like video poster). Besides she lives on the other coast now and has a family. Can't just jump on a train for a cross country trip you know.
Plus, she watched people she care for die or be monsters in front of her. Like imagine watching someone you care for and try so hard, to kill themselves in front of you.
i know this is a late reply but i kinda love the interaction you get when you romanced Judy. i got the impression from her "dont do this to me" line that she understood the disappearance wasnt in V's control and still has strong feelings for them which is why reconnecting would compromise her new life. it was like circumstance screwed over this happy couple and they just had to maturely understand and accept that despite it being difficult.
this V really put Kerry in a tough spot
the guy is on a concert tour so like wtf do you want?
chill out and let him come back then talk ffs
Nah fuck her
I think if v called kerry in another moment, keery would be better and sweet with him
So, V doesn't deserve any support from his "friends" after a 2-year coma. I can't relate their reaction in this ending with that snivel sorrow when V dies or commits a suicide.
Ironically that only Misty and Vik, who never asked V for any help, are happy to see us alive and give a little of support.
This ending is awfully odd smh, 2 years ago they were about to die for v's sake
And even then Misty and Vik weren’t V’s friends, they were assets who got in the way.
Lmao the saying is definitely true. They only care if you're dead. So much for friends.
It's more like "NC is a horrible crime ridden shithole and your one friend/merc or lover who you knew only knew for maybe a month* at most and dying suddenly disappears without a trace and comes back two years later trying to make up". They all moved on but Panam and River took it the hardest. Which is why she refuses to answer your call and why River is bitter.
You say that like most of them didn't offer V something, Judy basically offered to help V if he was in Pittsburgh, Kerry offered money because that is something he has that he can give you to help, it is not like the others aren't glad you are live but their lives have changed in the last 2 years
DUDE this is like the most DEPRESSING ending they could come up with. LMAO
nothings a happy ending in cyberpunk.
It could be purposely for the sequel, we know that our V died in the end, so they replaced themselves as Vincent or Valerie for our next story, who knows.
People wanted an ending where you stay alive, so they got it. Monkey's Paw at it's best.
@@shell2791 I read this in Silverhand's voice. Really hits the spot, like an axe between the eyes.
@@shell2791 V wanted to both survive and being a legend, and he got both. V’s stories has come an end as people knew he was dead and became a legend, while he survive the brainkiller chip in exchange of his name.
This ending made me really appreciate Viktor.
I wish they had implemented more interaction with him. But on the other hand, it speaks volumes, that despite having less interaction with him than with any other "companion", he still sticks to you. So maybe it was necessary to get this feeling about him.
Real great guy. In the end this made me really love Vik!
Surprised I don't see anyone talking about the worst part of this ending.
With V in a coma for two years...who took care of Nibbles?
😢
EDIT: I see people have answered that Rogue takes him in, thankfully.
you get a message from the apartment that because you didn't pay rent they sold your stuff via auction and if I remember right they put nibbles into shelter or new owner
@@Bad_Dog_Gaming :(
Iirc rogue has the cat and iguana
Rogue adopted the cat, if you watched the credit scene.
oh nice! Thanks @@mickeyg7219
Vicktor is like a dad to V, what a goat
Victor and V night city legends.
@@endme9442 VV 😂
Always felt like that
This is why Viktor is the best character in the game, dude is a real bro.. Wanting to help you, actually help you after 2 years of radio silence..
As someone who romance judy the nomad ending is still the best
Shit this just solidifies it.
I wish I could romance her as male Judy. I hate how they've restricted romance options.
@@anonisnoone6125 just mod it
Yea it was the ending I got.
Second best the reaper ending is num 1 for me
I love the fact that Panam was from the very beginning the ride-or-die chick we all loved to be with (aside from the River/Judy stans) but god fucking DAMN does it piss me off seeing her play the victim card as she always does then straight ghosts you and gets mitch to drop the DNC bomb on you despite telling her you've been in a fucking coma! Of all the people you'd expect to be there by your side in a heartbeat in true Nomad fashion, and she goes off to have a grump in the corner.
Fuck it. Fear the Reaper it is!
yeah cause the writers couldnt let the players have a happy ending, so they come up with bs reason for everyone to ghost v.
Still this endings imo is top 2, maybe top 3 for me. I see nothing wrong in langsley office work
It felt extremely out of character for Panam, you'd expect her to immediately answer when she see's V's name on her phone, and just be really happy that V is alive.
Yea I’m fine with just about everything but panam. She knew V was sick and throughout phantom liberty you tell her you are doing something that could save your life. Then when you finally call her she’s cold and distant. Seems extremely strange for her character.
given both v and panam line of work. 2 years is a long long time to be silent, someone has to let go. All i see is panam is bad at goodbyes. Big L.
In my head-canon, Panam is dead, probably cause she was so emotional over losing V that she started acting reckless and got herself killed by Wraiths or something and Mitch's message is his way of not hurting V
V will help all his/her friends anytime, but when V need the help, no one will come to him/her and will forget about him/her...
Except Viktor
Female V sounded on the verge of tears when she said that line and I was with her. No one ever looked out for V
Not to mention that Vik is the only person who does V any favours, giving the chrome at the start of the game. V actually has to push back on paying the debt.
Amazing; an ending which makes the ones in which you die more preferable. I get what they were going for here, but the fact that Reed couldn't even pass along a message to any of the buddies/romances telling them that V was in a coma makes it feel very contrived.
Contrived is the perfect word for it. Feels like it was written to be depressing for the sake of depressing despitethe fact it barely makes any sense.
It is but also V's Phone is full of fixers, murderers, and random people. How can a stranger sort this out. It was up to V to send a message they were going into an operation and while be out for a while.
@@9manny99They are FIA agents, not some random people. In the time it takes you to walk from the basketball court to the car when you meet Reed for the first time he finds out your name, where you live and what you do. They could have found out everything about you in a week if they wanted to.
@@ReallyRealGuyalso, why's the surgery gotta be secret? I can understand details being secret but how hard would it have been to let V's friends and lover(s) know "listen, the surgery taking a lot longer than expected. We understand if 2 years is a long wait but we thought you should know"
@@ReallyRealGuy FIA agents. You are assuming they want to invest more resources into V. The potential is there yes but V is only an asset that they traded a deal for. There is no value for them to have agents comb thru V's phone history to tell them V is in a Coma. Most our old friends are dead. Plus V was the current legend of night city with an electronic record in VC due to their apartment. Joe six pack and their mother calls V randomly in the middle of the game as you progress.
I know people like to generally say that everyone thats not Misty or Vik just wants to forget about V and all that Jazz, but at least Kerry is seemingly the most open in seeing V again.
Though considering his busy career.... that'd be a once in a blue moon thing at this rate.
Wait, Kerry did what to Blue Moon?
@@Anonymous37980 not in that way lmao.
I assume they are still acquantances if you made it so that Kerry willingly teams up with Us Cracks during his questline
@@Anonymous37980they meant Kerry's music careeer
for sure. Like Kerry is on the Crystal Palace, a spaces station! He's living a great life, and V can't expect him to drop everything for them, hell, even Johnny couldn't cause him to drop it all imo
@@benmay1294 But hey, he claims that once the tour is over he'll see V as soon as possible. I just hope he keeps his word on that (good chance he will)
It's so heartbreaking after romancing Judy, V going into a coma and then coming out to realise her girlfriend has moved on and she's alone is so heartbreaking to play through, especially after getting punched down the stairs, you truly feel hopeless
V was never meant to be a female
@@falcon_224 I did 2 playthroughs as both genders and Fem V feels a little more authentic
@@falcon_224weirdest comment award goes to
@@exxhy9707 how lol Johnny in fem V's body is just not real
@@beadymore so many activities just don't make sense for a woman
Giving body to johhny - (Panam) "Believe me when i say I'm going to find you ... wherever you're hiding ... And when i do I'm gonna rip V out of your head."
2 years after being in coma - (Panam) *no answer*
W H A T ... THE ... F U C K ... WHO WROTE THAT ENDING?
It’s pretty likely in this ending that she is actually just dead and Mitch doesn’t have the heart to tell you. He struggled to break the news about Scorpion, add in the out of service message and “something big coming up”, and it’s certainly a possibility.
@@TheJackal159 yeah im pretty sure, cuz it doesnt make any sense, theres no way u dissapeared and panam gets angry and thats it, she would have looked for u everywhere and even if she didnt find u she would answer after u call her and go for u, its way out of her character unless she is dead actually
why instantly go the negative route and think that the writers fucked up ? ( when we know they are amazing at what they do ) Panam is prolly dead, when you consider that, it all makes sense
@@azraelfaust487 cuz probably IS just bad writting to force It to be deppresing, actually even if she died (what i remember maybe im wrong) she calls u 55 times and she just seems angry in the texts she sends, not worried... Just angry but idk
It makes sense tho. For all intents and purposes you died. From her perspective at least. She lost you, was hurt and doesn’t want that anymore
I was about to be upset that there was a DLC locked ending where V actually gets to live, but turns out that's an even shittier fate than the rest. Well played CDPR.
That's the best ending unless V survives in "The Star". It pisses me off that people call 'bittersweet" the Sun, which is the most fucked up ending right after the Devil. (unless you attack AT only by yourself).
@@secondaryfront best ending is objectively temperance.
what you do is unlock this ending and then do "the star". best outcome for V.
V keeps their friendships, has months to pursue other leads outside of NC, but has the option of calling in their favor with Reed at anytime with the biochip already taken care of, just the nervous system shit to deal with. Judy and Panam can be kept in the loop on what's going on in person before V takes off and V can be more integrated into their lives before that too. Johnny "lives" and Saka gets fucked either way.
@@Mel0D while it would be plausible at first glance... it's not possible. in The Star, V gets turned into an engram. it's safe to assume that the way alt gets you back in your body is by just swapping johnny's engram for v's in the biochip, since it doesn't seem like soulkiller is really reversible. and since v is now on the biochip, if they went to get surgery from reed, they'd be getting wiped instead... at least in theory.
"Looking for a happy ending in Night City? Wrong town, wrong people" these kinds of endings are common in the cyberpunk genre: the protag often dies, and if they don't they lose more than they started with. It's like Stout says in the beginning of the game: the only winners are the corps
Damn, this is more depressing than the suicide ending. You get to live as a shell of your former self and become a distant memory in the minds of people.
as someone from pittsburgh that romances judy this ending is painfully ironic lmao, bianca better be able to fight !
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Man V got beat up by basic npc thugs what makes you think they will be able to deal
I wonder if the dialogue is the same if you romance judy
Honestly I'm wondering because it's been two years and I'm just surprised that she move that fast and forgot all about him that quickly but that's night City for you
yeah, she still leaves you. Shes a cold bitch too @@ArseneL13
This ending genuinely made me feel ill, like sick to my stomach, it's crushing that V goes through everything, and theres just no chance for a truly happy ending, also why do you have Johnny's arm?
you get his arm by completing the story & letting johnny take your body, you can play the final mission over n over n pick all options so he probably did johnnys ending then did this one after
Honestly after playing through the endings of phantom liberty i think the best ending would be sending songbird to the moon or killing her she does not deserve to be a lad rat also it means u don't get to play this crap ending
There used to be a glitch where an item would show up in your inventory that was gained by doing Johnny's ending, giving you his silverhand when you equip it. It's since been patched out, but those of us who have it wear it like a badge of honor
@@VsSecretChannelnot true, after the oil fields mission with johnny a hologram arm item will be in your inventory in the Misc section. You can click on it and itll give you a holo silverhand - or at least it used to.
The arm was a glitched item that shouldn't have existed for us. Getting it doesn't exist after the 1.3 patch those who already have it tho still have it
People forget to add Reed to the list of real ones if you don't betray him
Reed pushes the NUSA to give V a home and FIA job in Virgina when abandoned by everyone except Vik (and Misty)
Actually makes me somewhat like him... other than the fact that it gets Alex killed.
@@AeonStaite Go with songbird in firestarter, then give her to Reed at the airport. Alex survives and you get this ending
what job? like they employed songbird?
main villain is myers, millitech and arasaka with yorinobu or saburo hanako might brought some change....we might get a conclusion in future cyberpunk orion
Lmao.. and than he commits suicide because of So Mi. People are right, the correct one is well the other solution. Simply because Reed is lost.
Everything V had is gone - their reputation, their home, their guns, their souvenirs, most people they knew either forgot about him or don't care that much about them, they can't become a mercenary again and best they can do is to live a normal boring generic life until somebody either shoots them on the street unless they move out from NC.
This is truly the worst fucking ending you can have.
With V dying half a year after Mikoshi, they at least will be remembered by thousands if not millions as the man/woman who single handedly went into the Arasaka Tower, faced dozens of best of the best Arasaka had to offer, killed Adam Smasher without breaking a sweat, destroyed Arasaka's secret project that nobody, not even biggest corporations could even get close to, ruined their reputation for years if not permanently and most importanly - they will be remembered as the best Edgerunner to ever exist.
Don't Fear the Reaper people...
Atleast you acknowledge that V can be either male or female sick of these people calling V her instead of just V don't get me wrong female V is great and Cherami Leigh is so damn good but everyone forgets the Male V and Gavin Drea is also really damn good
@@wolfder6661 unless sequel changes it - there is no canon gender for V so why should i stick to one gender
@@wolfder6661lol true
Their reputation isn't gone and he isn't forgotten. Rogue says that V is still known in the afterlife after 2 years. V can still become a fixer. He has the money and connections. A fixer life is still exciting.
Rogue does say that V returning could make his legend disappear. But V could just lie and say that he willingly retired from the merc life and just wants to become a fixer instead. His legendary status remains and he stays safe.
With training V can get the fitness of a regular human and recover from the coma. He would be able to fend off the average thug trying to rob him.
In the credits, Rogue says that V is a leyend of the Afterlife even if he/she isn't the same
This ending really shows all these "freinds" and "romances" for who they really are. If you romanced Judy she just tells you not to come after knowingly shattering your world like that. And Panam just ghosting you? River and Kerry? Seems the only people who have even a sliver of care for V are Vic and Misty. Though even Misty is shake cause she really let you stay in night city in the condition you are.
To be fair they had to move on I mean if it was for a month I get sticking around but still it's been 2 years and it honestly makes sense that they just moved on. But it still sucks so I do agree on that point, however, I sort of see this as a character development point for V as after this they truly see what the world and the people is with a mix of perspective from Johnny's side learning to be more calculative and pragmatic while being equally daring in hopes of continuing their sort of legacy. And it all boils into them becoming this sort of Morgan Blackhand character of sorts that you only just hear about through rumors and whispers but it's always tied to huge events that shake the world of Cyberpunk to it's core.
V told them he wasn't going to see them soon, so with him disappearing and no context, they had no choice but to think he ghosted or died. Remember, the world of Cyberpunk is very deadly and V was barely holding on when they met last time, so this could have been like the failed Don't fear the reader ending reaction. Also, remember the story couldn't have taken more than a few moths at best. I think this ending was the game critiquing you for going the comfortable way, killing Johnny and taking the easy way out, kinda like the devil ending.
Panam is probably dead or out of the coverage area since I doubt she stays in night city without V there. River is still the worst romance and this just reinforced that 😂
@@7Kibz Panam is not dead, Mitch said she is still alive.
@@jackwellington9863 No. This ending just shows that no one really cares about V unless V is fixing their problems. My V would drop everything to at least try to help them if they popped up. This has nothing to do with moving on and everything to do with helping a friend clearly in need.
“So damn nice to know some stories actually get a happy ending.”
“Yeah… Happy… Happy…”
It's actually quite happy if you form no real connections to any of the side characters besides Vic and misty.
Idk wtf these people are smoking. The So Mi ending is the happy ending. It shows V growing as a character.
The worst part of this ending by far, unfortunately. The fact that we weren't allowed to text or phone Panam (or whoever you romanced) and basically go "Hey, I'm heading off to an undisclosed location for experimental treatment. I wish I could tell you more, but I might be gone a while. Please don't forget me." This is a glaring omission and surprisingly bad writing for a story of this caliber.
The way it's written now, it makes certain characters' reactions way too strong. We're also talking about 2 fucking years. Not 5. Not 10. *Two years.* A lot can change, but it's also not an unfathomable, unrecoverable amount of time.
Think about the difference between October 2021 and October 2023. It's a long time. But not THAT long. For someone in V's predicament, yeah, I just don't buy that most of their friends would abandon or be mad at them for something that was outside of their fucking control (a medically-induced coma).
That aside, I think this ending is wonderfully bittersweet, and the conversation you have with Johnny in the airlift on the way to surgery is one of the most touching and heart-breaking scenes in the entire game. So I'm still happy we got it. Just wish some of the misery & bitterness wasn't so forced and rushed.
i mean you gotta keep in mind, the main story occurs over a time period of a couple of months, maybe? V has only known these people like panam or judy for honestly a pretty short period of time, a few weeks/maybe a few months at most. If someone you've been dating for only a few weeks/months just up and ghosts you without saying a word, yeah after two years which is a decent amount of time, you're gonna have moved on.
@@Sharpie_17 That's true, but I think we also have to keep in mind that the relationships & bonds V forms over the course of this time aren't your typical, casual dating.
Knowing all we go through with Panam and the Nomads, and knowing Panam as a character (and how she reacts to V's disappearance in the Temperance/Johnny body ending). It just doesn't line up and feels forced to me.
The other characters? Sure, yeah. I can buy it.
I'm so confused because I haven't played PL yet, but is there a reason none of them knew you were going to have this surgery? I think it's pretty stupid V can't let them know the situation.
@@hogue_music V does get a chance to message them about it, but their messages are so vague that it feels forced that way so that we can have a (just as forced) bitter outcome.
Reed does tell you to not tell anyone any specifics because it's government shit, but a simple "Hi Panam, I'm sorry i can't tell you more, but I'm heading into experimental surgery, and I might be gone for a long while. Please contact so and so if you don't hear from me for a few months." would have sufficed.
That's really the part that bothers me. It's a contrived way of arriving at the destination that is *this ending.*
@@SalvationCode Just from this video, it does seem contrived just for the sake of "no happy ending".
The most advanced hospital on the planet and they can't even properly notify next of kin? Yeah no, that's too grimdark even for Cyberpunk
how often do real cia facilities "inform" vague friends and other randos of anything?
bro the least they could have fking done is at least tell them he is alive if not comatose. I would have settled for the nurses taking a selfie next to a bedridden V instead of radio silence.@@kikosawa
@@captainanus8131 I wanna reiterate what he said, because it's still the answer here: how often do real CIA facilities inform vague friends and other randos of anything?
Actually this is realistic, v is in secret service after all
@@kikosawa Shit, when do any government agency do that?
They still sprinkle bits of hope in here. V COULD get implants if they were custom made. Viktor is STILL willing to try everything for you, so much up to interpretation. It pains me and facinates me that there is no definitive good end for V
This just means the Nomad ending is still the best ending.
100%
Nah this is most realistic and good one it sympolizes evolfe adn acdeptence V can begin a new and peaceful life without drama or vialiton he prob accept reed offer and live peacefully
@@tamer8381 At the cost of not having your weifus? Nah, skrew that.
@@SinfulSaint013 they should’ve let us do one more mission where we find songbird and she becomes a romance option fr
@@2KanyeNah
Don’t fear the reaper it is.
Fuck everyone else except for viktor and Misty Jackie and mama wells. They are the real homies everyone else can go f themselves big time
No one dies or abandons you.
@@hootponca77397 judy and panam did
@@ramon4184yeah because they can’t handle the life that V wants. Which is understandable, at least V has what he wants and his friends, love lost can always be re obtained. Now becoming a shell of your former self and seeing all your friends going through crap while you were in a coma for two years and no longer being able to help them. That’s tough.
@@bartome7oit doesn’t make sense to be honest, no way Saul would let that shit slide either, v saved his life. Also saved mitches life too so the holocall makes no sense. Once they find out the truth, how could they mad at V?This is just a misery porn ending I’m so annoyed at CDPR
Doing this ending after romancing Judy for the fourth time hurts but I’m glad she’s happy
Panam would be there in a heartbeat if she could. Shame there is no Mama Welles call
Mama Welles would woop V's ass with the slipper.
She blocked v and mitch warned v to never call her again, kinda hate her for that one
@@1807Ultra Like what the fuck, you helped her so much, and get this shit. Ok then, i will go only for Arasaka solo with Johnny route.
It feels so stupid.
@@kharngotrekson1726 the only real ending. V accepting his fate and going out guns blazin to become a legend with one of his only real friends.
To me this is probably the most realistic ending. Using the neural matrix sounded like a safer choice but ended up backfiring, and everything's gone to shit like they usually would. Getting back to NC but seeing it almost in a martial law state, while Doc Vik ending up signing a contract with Zetatech just tells you how depressing and hopeless the cyberpunk world is.
The real shit is that NC is in martial law because Arasaka is pulling back, but just that. Yorinobu had his plan work, but it stll did nothing. He was ousted as CEO before he could destroy Arasaka and the Corpo domination of society. No one can change a thing, not even if you are at the absolute top.
@@milagrosgutierrezmartin9506 yeah, and even if he succeeded, other corpos would fill the gap, like what happened in NC
This all happens in the new ending? Wow that's fucked.
hell even the matrice didn't work on songbird so her only hope was illusion
This final is awesome BESIDES the Judy/Panam part. Panam is even worse. The game do not allow you to tell them clearly about the surgery that will happen, and Panam reaction after knowing about your coma for me do not fit her behaviour.
Lesson learned. Always owe someone money. That way there will always remember you.
And here everyone was arguing about which of the original was the 'worst' ending.
Glad we got a DLC to settle that once and for all.
seems like the best ending to me, after giving it some thoughts
@@tommi_xiaomi No Panam = worst ending.
@@tommi_xiaomi lmao L take
@@aidencampbell9120Naw W take
This ending feels really odd.
V can text Vic and and his/her romantic partner before leaving, they know V has found a way to save himself/herself
The aldecaldos are completely out of character, especially Panam
Judy, Kerry, River, Misty, Vic I find believeable how they changed, yet it's obvious they went as hard as possible to make V misrable through them.
And V could really just take the FIA job and leave that godforsaken city.
Yeah its shame they dont let to choose
It's called bad writing.
The aldecaldos at one point literally call V an honorary member, and extend them an offer to join whenever. It really pisses me off that like we save Sauls life, when we didn't have to. Saved the camp when we didn't have to, and helped Mitch give Scorpion a proper send off, and they don't at minimum say they're happy to see us? All V had to do was one job with Panam, and they could've dropped the entire Nomad questline. Instead, V went out of their way with no pay mind you to use their insane skills, and final moments to actually help people.
What are they repaid with? A bunch of shity messages, and Mitch telling someone who is literally family to never call again, despite V risking their ass MULTIPLE times to save them despite dying themselves. If I was my V, I'd take the job offered to me at the FIA, and pull some strings to get an escort to the aldecados current camp to give those fuckers a piece of my mind.
Hell V has the connections to become their own damn Fixer in NC, and if kept on the down low won't be touched with a ten foot pole considering the reputation he has. We're also not going to talk about the fact that he could still Net Run, because those shards aren't implants, they're just hardware. My V technically is still the greatest Net Runner since Alt-Cunningham.
The ending doesn't make any sense for people (me) who did a pure netrun build, and basically ignored cybernetic implants for better programs, hardware, armor, and guns.
@@notleviathan855nah, netrunner V is actually one of the builds that are invalidated, cause to be anywhere near effective, he'd need a military grade cyberdeck.
A shitton of skills don't require any cyberware, although after 2 years of coma, he'd probably have to spend quite some time and effort getting his ganics back to his peak.
Basically any build, that doesn't rely on implants to work is still valid tho, even if they will be a glass cannon.
A blade build is still deadly af with knives and blades, just less resilient.
A stealth build just has to make do without optical camo and other crutches.
A body build can still tank like crazy and shoot heavy weapons and punch like crazy.
What do you even know about Aldecaldos? You knew them for a month tops. With that kind of background, 2 years is enough to forget why you were even close at some point
Damn, the pain in River's voice as he says "Not you"
Tbf, Judy response to Male V is a lot nicer if you don’t choose the aggressive dialogue. Panam wasn’t even her response, she just got over your 2 years disappearance and judging by how emotional she is, Mitch decided to intervene to stop you from making Panam going ape shit again, which i can understand. Kerry is basically Johnny Silverhand but without aggression against corporations so his response make sense. River is literally trying not to bring you into his giant ass mess.
Gotta feeling panam may be dead
@@MafiavelliOne of the Aldrcaldos, picks up your message in the credits and tells you to stop calling.
@@MafiavelliMich tells you in the credits that Panam was devastated by your disappearance, and that she doesn't want you to call because she can't deal with the situation.
Panam went full bitch mode. V explained (s)he was in coma. Panam ignored it. The lady is a child.
@@secondaryfront Heh, you get the first feeling of that when she wants you to help her kill Rouge Wraith contact. Next time i will just say "fuck you" after we get the car.
Can’t believe his friends just basically ignored v… next play through I’m not helping any of them except viktor
i only did it for the iconic weapons
Did you think they would just sit around for two years for someone who was presumed dead?
@@lucask4377 if my friend whom i thaught had died 2 years ago, told me he/she was in a coma i woudl find a way ti meet up, no matter what.
@@lucask4377 if I had a friend and thought he was dead just to find out he was alive I’d be mad yes but I’d go get my buddy… maybe you shouldn’t have friends since you’d just forsake them
@@lucask4377Presumed , not officially dead, if its me, i wouldnt giving up until i see my friend dead body in front of my eyes.
I always love Vik, he's that one character that reminds me of all of my IRL friends that I can call and just chat with, like we never stopped talking..
Also meeting Misty at the end was really nice too, they're the true real ones in Night City.
Wow, it’s like accepting death is the better choice than what we get here for saving our lives.
It depends on how you see things, V in the story if a victim of fate, and in a way this is a way for them to break the chains of fate, they lost the ability to be a merc but maybe that is for the better, their old life is gone so they can really move on from all of it, they have a chance to rebuild their life from scratch, maybe everyone he knew moved on with their lives in those 2 years, but you can tell that a lot of them still care for V but they have their own lives, and V hasn't been a part of it for 2 years.
I am sure that if V went to Pittsburgh Judy would help them to settle there if they wanted that, I am sure that after Kerry's tour he would be willing to give V a job in the band, River is just neck deep in shit and doesn't want you to get involved in it because he cares, Panam held out hope for over a year that V would return and her text messages show it ate at her that she could never know if you were dead or had just ghosted somewhere else and cut everyone off.
The world doesn't revolve around V and their needs, and simply put everyone else had their own lives to handle, I am sure that if V makes an effort to re-integrate himself into the lives of his friends he would be welcomed back but you can't expect them to move for you when they have their own lives and problems to handle
Not to mention misty pretty much invited V to ho with her and help each other build a new life
It is a sad ending yes. But I feel V messed up on this. If he knew that something could go wrong with this operation, then he should have told someone about what's going on in case he dies or be in a coma. Like where to find him or at least say he is getting surgery for the chip and won't know what will happen. He was very vague to people he's close to so this what happens.
Yes exactly. He should have called Panam before going for surgery, instead of a simple text. Tell her whats happening and where he is and how to get in touch with Reed. She wouldn't have ghosted V.
@@AdilDIlyas Well the thing is that them having to extract the parts of his brain that got fucked was not in the plans for the surgery, and V pretty much was knocked out in the AV and woke up two years later
The biggest thing is that them having to do so much to fix him up was beyond expectations and most likely something that had to be done in the OR as they were in surgery to save V
Why blame V blame the writers for writing something so stupid like any normal person would tell the people they love what they are about to do
@@ryanbaker5296 Why writers? V actually says to his friends that he might be out for a month. He couldn't predict that there will some complications. So V's friends after not seeing any responses from V assumed that he actually didn't survive the surgery. So they moved on with their lives at some point because they cannot grief forever and they have to live. Judy found someone but at least she picked up the call. Panam because of her character assumed the worst that V after surgery basically went to live his life and forget about her and while I get she might be angry it doesn't justify her not picking up the phone and actually talk even if it meant to just end things between V and her. River fucked up his life even more then before which is a trait for this character.
"It'll help this old man sleep at night"
This is the line (And the only) that make me cry
Honestly this is the saddest ending for V since he lost his identity cause of the surgery and is left alone in world, now just a NC resident rather than the NC Legend we built him up to be and sucks that the man who fought/helped many is now a left behind by everyone he helped. Just like Johnny said "taking a man's identity is worse than death"
It’s a price to pay. Do you want to live a quiet life, or go out like a legend, or something like that. I’m sure some wiseman said it
Realistically, only way this, ending can be good is if you don’t create emotional connections with the people you meet along the way as heartless as it may seem, you won’t feel abandoned if there’s no one to abandon you
Also: interested in hearing other peoples opinions on that
Well for V he has only known these people for a few weeks. A month at most. V should really be attached to Vic and Misty. But they don't completely abandon V.
V barely knows River. V saved his family and they had dinner together. Not much other than that. V would feel betrayed by River not wanting anything to do with V though I guess.
Judy doesn't abandon V. She just moved on. If anything she moves on in the main game as well. If you are friends with her she moves out of night city and sends you text messages of her vising her grand parents. Is that her abandoning you? No it isn't. She is just living her life. She even says that if you are ever in around they can meet each other.
Kerry still wants to talk with V so he hasn't abandoned you.
For Panam like I said before V would realistically have only known her for a couple of weeks. Like sure it would suck that all of the people you know have moved on. But if I was V I would just be happy that I am alive. I would work with the NUSA or I would become a fixer. I would go and visit Kerry and Judy since they still are on okay terms with me.
Also it is not impossible for V to try to mend relations with Panam and River. Though it would be unlikely. V would have the money and connections to help River. V also probably has the money to find out where the Aldecaldos are. Saul did say that V would always be welcome with he Aldecaldos. But I don't see Panam forgiving V.
@@drlukas4242 And what about Jackies mother? Jackie and V were best chooms and you can't even call her before the surgery nor after. That's one big missed oportunity!
Idk I think that the abandonment isn't that bad and people overblow how "depressing" this ending is
V basically gets a fresh start at life, what's there to be sad about? a few lost friends is nothing when compared to your entire life
nah for me it was sad because v won't have a chance to live like before the surgery anymore, it felt like she became disabled and it was the most heartbreaking thing in this ending
One of my favorite parts of the story is Panam and Vs relationship and to see her not pick up lowkey hurt me.
Outta of all the people she hurt me the most!!! Moved on after 2 years after we did for her saving Saul the clan and helping them get on their feet. Then they called you family and they would do anything for you......tells you panam moved on and NOT to call back.
😢 my v's a nomad hearing a family doesn't want you to come back to them........hurts
CDPR ready gave Panam fans the biggest fuck you possible
Of everyone we got the worst of it
Panam is most likely dead. Hence why they lash out at you in the end credits.
@@cendresaphoenix1974 says who? theres just 0 to go off on.. I blame the crappy writing.
Panam..not geting back to you.. Just nothing, really twists my stomach. Like, you did a lot for her.. compared to a lot of these other guys.. You did so much for her clan and everything. And yeah she waited well over a year. Just man. Shit turns my stomach inside out. Makes me feel awful, made me just wanna quit and do another ending.. Because not having her felt the worst when compared to anything.
Unless its something im missing it says shes out of cell range, meaning she didnt get the message. admittedly ik nothing past this scene but if this is it then you cant be mad at her if she still doesnt know
@@frederickdawson2253in the credits Mitch says she's moved on and doesn't wanna contact V
@@nataliecameron they prob could not get her voice actor XD
@@sillylittlesheepjax6009 Why is everyone saying something so stupid
id bet any money they just couldnt get the voice actor back lol
It feels like betrayal that everyone except our boi Vic abandoned us
As someone who hasn't spoken to his "friends" 5 years after graduation,i can relate to V
But v is lucky to have some loyal ones like misty and viktor
Those are HS friends, theres a difference lmao.. what a stupid comparison
@@aidencampbell9120 i never mentioned highschool ya ign0ramus
This makes the Nomad ending doubly better, since V could cash in the favor after getting out with the aldecaldos and live a nice happy life
Edit: V can call up the NUSA and get treatment for her condition after the game ends, Misty's reading basically confirms that V lives in the aldecaldo ending and maybe the temperance ending
If anything this ending proves that the relic can be gotten rid of. Might be other options then the one they shown here.
For 6 months
And then what? Just to die in 6 months
@@prettieboiswag6659They hinted that, V lived longer.
@@YourBuddyTom01They hinted that V lived longer than that.
Ik I’m in the minority but I still think this is a good ending for V. Like, sure people move on and stuff but that’s just how it goes in real life too.
By the time you’re in your late 20s…many friends you knew from school have moved across the country, gotten married & have kids now, or simply lost touch so you don’t see them anymore.
Not many interactions apart from a hb message once a year. Or if you’re both in the same city, you can grab a beer together. Sounds sad but that’s life.
The ghost of a living legend.
You are still alive, the people around you yet live, but the person that you were is gone with a gust of wind that was laced with gunpowder-like a musician that can no longer hear their tune, or a singer that has gone mute.
You are still alive, but those closest to you are distant-some of whom forever out of reach, and even those that remained are changed by this damned city.
You are still alive, but the dreams and hopes and memories of those that fought at your side are gone. Lost with the person that you once were and not possible to be maintained by who you are now.
. . . Are you truly still alive?
damn, every one of them except Vik turned out to be a fair weather friend. something to keep in mind on my next playthrough
You don't need to pick this ending in fact playing through the other ending of Phantom Lib I told the President Don't ever Contact me Again (It was either that or see this Ending again). I weather have 6 months with Panam & Judy then this shit Ending.
Did you expect them to sit around for two years waiting for someone who’s probably already dead?
@@discoinferno103hey guys I’m going to get a really difficult surgery but it’s going to be done by the top professionals in the world and I might die but hold onto hop that I’m coming back
@@discoinferno103just to let you know I would in cyberpunk 2 years isn’t long
Let’s be real here 2 years in REAL LIFE isn’t that long. If 5 to 10 years had passed this ending would have made more sense
Imagine after this Ending in the Sequel V really becomes a Fixer. Cold hearted and Pragmatic Fixer. Instead of Cyberware He / She relies on weapons and their body.
This Ending doesnt mean it has to be permanent. This ending has a lot of room.
0:30 One thing I hate the most about V is his indirect, rarely honest straight to the point way of talking. He rarely tells people the full truth of what goes on, and never really explain details.
Like when dexter thought we killed arasaka, V never told him what really happened and just let Dexter assume we really killed him.
Prob because dex wont believe him
@@putinyoutosleep6184 Thats the thing, how would we known that? Dexter was freaking cause he believed something, and V not just saying what happened, and instead V just getting angry and deflecting, made dexter believe his viewpoint was true and caused him to think of the betrayal.
I truly think that if V told dexter how it actually went down, I feel like dexter would possibly calm down and think more clearly
@@hidan407 i think V would probably told him after he went to the bathroom, but he couldnt because he got killed before he could explain what happened
@@putinyoutosleep6184 Thats the thing, as soon as dexter accused him, V had alot of time to actually say what really happened. He kinda went with it and let Dexter assume the absolute worse. The second he said " I didnt tell you to off the emperor", I would had said I did, It was his son and then tell the story. I know adrenaline is high but I rather set the record straight asap 😵💫😵💫
This ending seriously had me crying and i never cry at games. Ever.
This ending created me a new fear, the fear to loose everything while I can't do anything to stop it.
I never cared about that, but now it's frightening me
@@vca3018 wtf, i don't speak spanish
Nvm then
My god, what a sh!t ending! The people that turned their backs on him was wrong. I mean you formed these relationships by helping them and this is the way they treat you? Wow. Dude was in a coma, you'd think after hearing that they will put their anger aside... guess not. So yeah, looks like the Nomad ending is the best. At least with that one there's this sense of hope that V found a way to get himself cured. I like to think that with all of the connections he made, they all put their heads together to find a way to get him help.
I like how only you and 28 other ppl think it was a shit ending😂
Johnny himself sed it. “ you expect happy endings. For ppl like us? Wrong ppl. Wrong city.” This game was nvr meant to have a happy ending and I’m absolutely in love with that. Not everything in life is a fairytale lmao.
cuz CDPR is a shit writer
@@TaintedxPurist Literally nothing is. Cyberpunk is too much like life, shit, depressing and always ends badly.
I don't think that they turned their backs on V, but rather they can't drop everything in their lives for V, V isn't the center of their world and you have to understand that it has been two years since they last heard anything about V, they are all glad you are alive but you can't just slot in like nothing ever happened, because a lot happened in the time you were gone.
Judy offers to help V if they are in Pittsburgh, Kerry offers you Eddies so you can look out for yourself because that all he can offer at the moment, River keeps you from getting caught up in his problems, Panam likely was the one that held hope the longest (from the text messages it was over a year she kept trying to contact V), Reed offers you a job at the FIA so you aren't just abandoned and unable to look after yourself, Viktor offers to try and see if something can be done, Misty encourages you to look to the future like she is.
I don't think everyone is angry at V, but rather glad to see you are alive, everyone handled it differently, Panam likely still hasn't fully recovered from you disappearing, Judy was mad before but realised that if you could have you would have contacted her, Kerry was busy with his career but is glad to see you are alive and wants to help you land on your feet with the thing he has in excess which are Eddies he might not have time but he has money and can help you while you figure things out.
@@TaintedxPurist I like how you couldn't reply without being rude as hell. But honestly, it's more like 'you and 28 other ppl think it was a good ending.' Most people think this was a bad ending. And I get not everything in life is a fairtale, you are talking to a guy who grew up in the projects... I get it more than most. But this isn't life... it's a videogame. It's just rough when the 'good' ending is still depressing. All in all after watching his a few more times I do get the silver lining. V can now have a new start and that's pretty cool.
For me this ending hit really hard, I never really realized what I had in life because I was living through it. Things do change but gradually and they may not always be the best but like Johnny said “Sometimes you gotta let go”
for me this would be the canon ending always, dont care bout no blackwall, my good times with johnny, judy etc. alot of people who played this game purposely forget that we are playing as V rather than themselves. and that the only reason V even accepted songbird request was for her to stay alive. V wants to stay alive and i made sure she did. all the noise of humanity, corpos blah blah is just noise. The story was about V, she lives on, even if she is a face in the crowd, she lives. that's probably the best you can get in a fucked up place like night city and the cyberpunk world.
Only an Eastern Euro studio could so perfectly make an ending where you living is so much more tragic then when you die
no, V has the power and money to do whatever V wants.
anyone would choose life over death
Panam ghosting him was the worst fucking thing and only Vik stuck by him
Should of just dated Vik tbh, no but fr the writers whoever decided this suck. Idk if the actress quit or they just couldn't get her for this dlc.
This ending with V "friends" reaction after 2 years of missing kinda hit home hard... can relate and this feel really painful to watch
don't blame them. it's not right thinking you are the most important person to everyone you know
@@kikosawa yeah but on the same time. I did see who was my real true friends at the end who still remember me. Sorta like Vik and Misty
@@hanchiman well, they knew you for the longest time
Kerry is old bro. I really think he was trying to help. Hes back to being busy. Kerry is legit losing his mind a bit.
Puts all those "friends" in a really bad light to see that none, absolutely none thought "wow, V might be in danger, let's try to find her/him".
Of course NUSA docs not calling the most-called numbers on V's phone is just terrible either.
bad writing.. he could say please answer my phone calls or my messages ..
@@MMORPGFreaky Not bad writing when there's already precedent during the story about FIA doing this exact same thing to someone else, try again.
This makes me get The Sun ending only, without Panam or Judy romance, imagine doing all their quests and get this, because after everything you've done they say "fuck you".
Judy breaking her end of the news is so bittersweet, she has found that piece of happiness both V and her talk about without V and it feels so depressing to return to NC with that knowledge
I like to think that maybe one day Panam would see his message, if she's somehow still alive, and end up messaging him. I mean a coma for two years is a pretty good reason to not have been answering
No chance
Nah, she doesn't. In the credits Mitch says that V best not call, and not to have any contact with her.
I think she is dead. There is no reason for mitch to answer her messages otherwise
@@feluto7172 Mitch specifically says that Panama is pissed at V for disappearing. Mitch calls because V is dead to Panam.
@@CatLover-gk8uu seems out of character from her. let’s say PL is canon, put some logic to it, panam set the record straight she is a ride or die chick, if she finds out you’re in a coma she will look for a cure. there isn’t a right or wrong answer as to what happen, but i’m leaning towards she got killed in the pursuit trying to find you
Judy: so nice to know some stories actually get a happy ending
Me: even this isnt a happy ending. bitter sweet, like the others..
If forcing characters to become all against V despite who they were portrayed as is "realistic" for CDPR writers then I have no hope in them
So The nomad ending is still the best because you live remember Misty's never been wrong so far with us (even Jackie if you think about it) and this ending is guaranteed life for the doubters in the back but guess what? You can't defend yourself and you have gigantic targets on your back from basically every gang in NC even some Russian military affiliates so you're kind of screwed.
They can always move out of N.C. but yeah, the star is the best.
V had two friends Jackie and Victor. Even though you pretty much fixed all these peoples lives no one truly cared for V.
You helped. Stop picturing V as some kind of messiah. Everyone apart from Panam have a good-ass reason to be this way. And Panam... we know her. She's impulsive. Those 55 missed calls don't give any thoughts to you? Even if you are back, she's long past that. That's how people work.
@@kikosawa nah Panam had no one to hold her had to actually try and find you like a real person would. So instead she blows up your phone, and gives up lol.
To be honest it is very hard to ask for people to drop everything and meet V after 2 years. That is very normal, and takes time for them to build the bridge again. We always have to remember, its not just you that lost a friend, they also lost a friend.
well there's "drop everything and meet V" and "Hey I woke up from a coma, do you think we could meet somewhere and catch up?"
Plus they likely thought V died, cause you know V tells almost all of them the chip is gonna fucking kill them in like a month
V was in the middle of dying but took detours to help all these people out for their side missions. They just drop V like it's nothing
I love that the ending of this game DLC is like Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood minus the friends.
To everybody saying “Oh Vik and Misty are the real ones” bruh they pulled a Daenerys from game of thrones, changing the characters, personality to suit the story. If your girlfriend Panam thought that something bad had happened to you she would have torn down half of night city to find you. Not given up after reaching your voicemail. She’s one of the most loyal loving stubborn people in the world. They just changed that so they could be like “Haha you’ll live but isn’t this shit dark?”
V twerking while talking to Kerry 😂 @5:50
this ending is literally "better to burn out like a fire than to see yourself fade away"
naaaah. Fading away from that killer-mercenary life and Night City is actually a good thing. A fresh start for V and most importantly freedom and all the strings cut off. The only ending that gives V the opportunity for a happy and long life. To me it's the best one out there
This ending proves that V can live. This means that the other endings also mean V can live.
Guess they could not get Panams actor.
She absolutely did new dialogue in game because you can call her and talk to her about new stuff.
@chrisalder9096 Oh really, my bad
Panam is emotionally unstable. Why would she answer a man who ghosted her? For 2 years, coma or not.
I will miss the Megabuilding H10 administrator the most
At least he always remembered to check up on me... even if it was only for money.
There is no happy endings in night city, although old friends like Vik had V covered.. glad the last person we spoke to was misty.. really needed that,
2:29 cap, leaves NC if you are Vincent, leaves NC if you are Valerie and decided not to romance her
The fact that you've still got Kerry and Viktor hits hard.
Maybe at the least, you could get Kerry to give you some kind of job working for him. A high technical ability V could "recalibrate holoprojectors" like he said he was going to for Us Cracks or something. If nothing else, give him a job in marketing or something.
As busy as he may be, he legitimately does care.
And Vik? Vik is still himself. Couldn't ask for a better friend or doctor.
I’m sad our romance options moved on… Kerry is my favorite and knowing we don’t see him again…. I don’t like that decision
so panam never thought "hey theres no way this guy would ever do something like this to me we need to search for him and turn over every stone in night city until we do" Kerry would have the funds River is a "private eye" and Vick and Misty were the only leads they had! Judy moving on with her life after everything she went through is perfectly fine but theres no way none of these guys should have just given up after you clearly stated you'd be having life changing surgery and then ghosting
I know, the entire thing stinks of CDPR making a way you can live then rembering that there are supposedly no happy endings in Night City, which is BS they are rare but they do happen
@@MasterLittica v waking up to all of his friends hearing about all the fucked up stuff that happened in his absence and not being able to do anything about it because he's been rendered a normal person would have been just fine
not sure why people think this ending is depressing, its bittersweet. like Johnny said, sometimes we just have to give up and let go.... its part of life.
Bittersweet? Motherfucker everyone V made friends with or romanced doesn't care about them. Panam ghosted him, River and Kerry couldn't care less, the only ones who seem to care are Vik and Misty. This is depressing everyone V ever cared for even a little over the course of the game fuckin abandons him
THANK YOU. This ending is literally the only thing that makes sense. This is what V has been fighting for since Konpeki Plaza. Survival.
Besides as for Panam and Judy who knows what could happen down the line now that V is alive. Better that than him dead. Sounds pretty shitty regardless but the possibility is still there.
This ending reminds me of something I had through: Loss of something important through a painful change. So I think it's a best ending, just because it's all ended. For real. Finally.
@@slimmoses4129whats the reason to survive if your loved ones arent there with you? At the end of the day, that’s why we live. Because of our loved ones. Thats why we want to survive. Put us in a world of no people, and we will not last very long and if we do last, its only in hopes that the people will come back.
Always think about whats important, this is why you fight. Because the alternative of living without the people you love is much worse. Especially in this ending.
@@WorldKeepsSpinnin Man cmon if the only reason why you wanna live is for others then there’s no reason for you to live anyway. Judy has always thought about leaving NC to pursue a better life, and that’s exactly what she got. Why be aggressive towards that? It’s what she would want lol.
As for Panam, her reaction makes sense…but judging from the other endings she’ll come around. She damn near has some sort of sick obsession towards V and woman like that always come around LOL! Trust me.
Judy was the most beautiful but her favorite person was always Judy .
This is real ending. Also, I think surgery was secret and no one supposed to know about it, I think mainly because it was done using Rogue AI which is big taboo. Also, Reed said doctors knew to the day when he will wake up, it points to the fact that coma was artificial. Even Doc in the AV said his nervous system was perfectly fine. So I guess surgery was done quick, but they left him in coma for a reason. To remove his trace. Also it is possible that Rogue AI extracted from Matrix weakened his system on purpose, to let him live but render him useless. Because alternatively if V sends Songbird to the Luna she gets her surgery and recovery real fast and even sends him a gift and text. How come FIA took 2 years to do whatever blackmarket clinic did in a days or weeks.
Because the NUSA figured they didn't want another Morgan Blackhand running around that they didn't control. So, they screwed V over.
I was really sad at this ending. Even the suicide ending didn't make me this sad. The ending of going with Judy and the Nomads is still a better ending. I vowed not to do this ending again. We were not people who deserved this treatment.