Film doesn't show societal advancement "They're being too vague, DING!" Film shows societal advancement "We get it! We don't need to see every change this made. subtly is key, DING!" There's no winning.
I saw it on Disney plus just because I knew it would flop, they spent next to nothing on advertising. It wasn't even that good, struggles to sit through it.
Don't know how to market their live-action ones, either -- complete ball-drop on "John Carter," a distinct dearth of decent toys for "Star Wars" since about 2015 compared to what we'd been used to before, this movie . . . .
There’s a lot of talk about the logistics of this turtle but nobody seems to acknowledge the terrifying fact that turtles have shells to protect themselves, meaning somewhere on that planet there is a natural predator to the turtle the size of a continent… let that keep you up at night
I am completely behind a Strange World sequel called Strange Worlds where each planet has its own giant animal, making up a galactic ecosystem. Bring on the space crocodiles!
It could be that there USED to be a predator, and quite likely that humans were basically fleas on that thing and "explored" to the turtle and the predator has since gone extinct.
If I wanted to watch a strange sci-fi animated movie with flying ships and other world explorations that was badly marketed in purpose- I would simply watch Treasure Planet 😌
What if the turtle just decides to say fuck it and dives one day? Is the water just shallow? Also the size of the turtle relative to the planet is fucking hilarious
I could let few things go since it's movie and not everything have to make sense but yeah what turtle eats? What happens when it goes under water? Is it the only turtle in the world? Either everybody is giant or planet is really small
I just realized Disney recycled this whole island on the back of a turtle thing from "Aladdin and the King of Thieves"...only there the reveal was more clever (less of a rip-off of Terry Pratchett) and yes, the turtle did dive taking the entire island with it.
I always appreciate this channel because it gives me a synopsis of movies I'm never going to watch and gives me the highlights which I really appreciate
2:58 I fry eggs like in the movie all the time. It's easy once you know what to do. 1. Sufficiently grease frypan with oil or butter and then heat. 2. Crack desired amount of eggs into hot pan. 3. Add small amount of warm water to bottom of a lid, then cover pan with lid, topside up. 4. Cook eggs and then remove from heat. Remove lid. 5. Carefully transfer eggs from frypan and onto a plate, using a spatula. 6. Add salt, pepper or other desired seasonings. Include desired sides such as toast. Enjoy. Boom. You've cooked eggs with intact yolks that look just like the ones in the movie. Takes me about 5 minutes.
I normally just add a bit of water to the pan itself then cover it with the lid 🤔 Though I also season the eggs before then. But yeah, using steam to help cook the eggs makes them so much easier to make and nice looking.
There's already real human beings named 'Hunter', 'Chase', 'Tracer', I'm not sure why 'Searcher' is out of the question. Like the main character of Final Fantasy 7 is named "Cloud" but is that the biggest sin for that game.
Watched this movie exactly once. And about less than halfway through I went "Oh, the creatures are attacking the humans just like white blood-cells". Shortly after, of course I realized that that was it...that was the entire plot line. Kinda sad when you feel like a squeaky, blue, booger critter is the only redeemable thing in the entire film.
Is figuring out the reveal before the reveal happens sad? Why be mad at the movie for being "predictable" and not proud of yourself for picking up the hints?
Since there's no way for us meager humans to know what the universe even is right now, I often wonder if life is a corrosive, like rust or acid. Life tends to wreck stuff and is hard on whatever rock upon which it takes root.
@@melodi2036 I wouldn't have minded if if there had been more substance to the story. I get that it's a movie for children...but even children deserve stories that they can grow with. Stories even as recent as Moana or Encanto have not just reveals at the end...but also strong themes and sub-themes that propel the story and the characters within it. It's perfectly fine to have a film where certain things are predictable, it means that the plot line is coherent and isn't fully dependent on half-baked plot twists. But when the entire plot is based on a fairly weak reveal...it kinda loses its luster. Comes across as lazy or incomplete writing.
I mean, nothing redeemable unless you count the implications of the grandfather, father, son parts. It's easy to delude yourself into thinking you're better or different than the people that came before you, but no one starts out that way, and if you haven't been through a lot and done a lot of active, purposeful growing, you'll end up making the same mistakes as they did. It's a simple message but when you actually start thinking about how it can apply to day-to-day life it's really interesting. For me anyways, :p
@@melodi2036 Watched it with my nephews who are 5 and 7 years old and they knew the message before that scene came up. Do not excuse Disney being lazy because you think kids are dumb. Overall though, the movie was harmless enough for a single viewing but won't get more than that.
This movie wasn't made by Pixar, it was Walt Disney Animation Studios. Which is actually worse, since they've made all the best Disney movies in recent years: Zootopia, Frozen, Moana, Tangled, Encanto, Big Hero 6, Wreck-it Ralph.
Disney has always had its ups and downs. Between the golden age 1937-1942 and the silver age 1950-1967 you had the wartime years with disjointed package films like Make Mine Music and Melody time, movies that have not stood the test of time like the best films from the eras before and after like Snow White and the Seven Dwarves, Pinochio, Cinderella, Bambi and The Jungle Book. Then you had the 1970s and 1980s with Disney releasing such old-fashioned movies like Charley and the Angel and One of Our Dinosaurs is Missing when The Exorcist and Jaws were dominating the box office or flops like The Black Cauldron and Return to Oz against the success of Back to the Future which Disney turned down. (Fun fact, they objected to Lorraine kissing her future son in the car!) But then they bounced back with their adult venture Touchstone Pictures and the Disney Renaissance of 1989-1999. The Lion King, The Little Mermaid and Aladdin were big hits. Then post-renaissance they had flops with Home on the Range and Treasure Planet,while Pixar overshadowed them, leading them to buy Pixar. A pity that they let go of John Lasseter since he seemed to direct and produce animated films people wanted to see. But Disney does bounce back after tough times. They need a good CEO after Iger, someone like Michael Eisner.
Given that the pando is electrically charged, attaches to the heart, and pulses with the heat of said heart: the pando appears to be parasitically dependent on the turtle to grow. Originally, the turtle's passive and active immune systems restricted how much pando could grow, establishing an equilibrium that kept the pando from notably threatening the turtle's life. It was the humans that broke that equilibrium by cultivating mass quantities of the pando, resulting in it overpowering the immune system and overwhelming the turtle. So if the turtle dies, the pando dies, and their civilization collapses from the suddenly loss of power.
Wow! Maybe the movie should've explained this to the viewers so that their audience of literal children wouldn't have to think this hard about the movie!
fun fact: there is a "tree" named Pando and it is acually a forest while being a "single tree" because it has roots connecting with every copy of Pando, that happens because the soild that Pando growing in is very fertile and i think the movie was based off Pando
My family tried to watch this over Christmas after we saw it on Disney+. Even my seven year old nephew and his three year old little sister didn't want to finish it. Halfway through, after constant fidgeting and playing, they asked if we could stop and watch The Incredibles.
@@nailinthefashion Not at all it just means the movie is boring even to kids. There's no need to watch a movie that's marketed to kids before showing it to kids.
@@timothyalan34 experiment with meaningful parenting not drugs next time and maybe you'll find the nuance in a story literally about breaking generational trauma lol
@@dragonsman4733 my dude they released like one trailer Snd then a second trailer like a whole year after the other one And then just pushed the little mermaid movie
So, funny enough, I have a degree in biochem and am getting a MS in cell biology. I could probably refute about 20-30 sins based on real life human biology. That being said, I’m only going to refute this: your body? FULL of ball sack-like structures. All over the place. Your cells? Ball sacks. Your kidneys? Ball sacks. Your lungs? You guessed it! Ball sacks. So, yes, random hanging ball sacks in a tube that might be part of the cardiovascular system is theoretically accurate.
Cripes, I love it when fellow biologists get involved with movie discussions! I think every film or TV show needs at least one General Science Thumper on the crew, and several Specialist Thumpers, depending on the themes being explored. Their role would be to carry a large chunk of wood and hit people who say things like "the neutrinos mutated," or "there should be an orang-utan in India," and suchlike.
"How is this turtle not in constant pain" Easy answer. One of its equivalent of a Blood Cell, is the size of their ship A blood Cell could be shot through your arm, and you wouldn't notice. For things to hurt, it needs to trigger nerves. If these people walking on the turtle hurt it, then every single bit of bacteria on you would be painful for you
I'm a big fan of cosmic horror creatures with bodies so massive and otherworldly they can act like an ecosystem for humans, so I really like the concept and world building of this movie. It's a shame basically no one else likes this movie and neither does Disney.
As someone who works in the medical field. I figured out it was a creature they were inside pretty much the moment they entered. It’s painfully obvious
15:55 I haven't seen the movie, but this moment is actually f'king TERRIFYING! 19:30 Agreed, that planet is way too small to sustain something that large. But also . . . where are the other turtles to reproduce with? What if the turtle goes underwater? Is there any land? Does the turtle make regular circuits around this tiny (relative to the turtle) planet that simulate a sunrise/sunset for the people? So many questions!
Also, what does it eat!? Like it has been stated that the acid field is its stomach, but what would it digest!???? It could be plankton but… it would have to CONSTANTLY feed to sustain like a 9,000 mile long body
@@Whydoiexisthere- it seems to be covered in trees with roots extending into its body, so maybe they photosynthesize and it derives energy from that (or just consumes some of the mass they produce)? Now we're thinking more about this than anyone involved in making the movie actually did.
A minor thing: The “I’m not you, dad” trope came WAYYYY WAY WAYYYYYY too early in the movie to have any impact. Now to be fair I haven’t watched the movie for myself, only this video; but the way Jaeger reacted made me think it was meant to have a sort of emotional impact for the audience? I mean it makes sense for the context of Jaeger’s character probably, but we’ve known these characters for what, five minutes? It automatically made me think to the scene at the end of Act II of How To Train Your Dragon (one of my favourite movies of all time by the way) where Hiccup and Stoick are arguing in the Great Hall; Stoick goes off at his son for befriending a dragon, claiming “They’ve murdered _hundreds_ of us!” And Hiccup pleads back, trying to reason, “And we’ve killed _thousands_ of them!” That part works because we’ve familiarised ourselves with the characters over the course of the movie. We know Hiccup’s and Stoick’s dynamic and their relationship to each other: we live through Hiccup’s struggle to make his father proud as a black-sheep teenager who doesn’t have the physique to be the best at the Dragon Fighting Academy; we see Stoick acquiescently maintain his stoic, sturdy, strong personality as he faces his duties as Chief first, father second. For the former, we can tell that Hiccup is a bright young teenager because we live through his struggle to fit in even though he has revolutionary ideas and a loser reputation. For the latter, we understand that Stoick wants the best for his son, even if he only thinks one thing is the best: being a dragon-killer in order to be the best Viking and next Chief. That’s why it’s such a detrimental blow to the audience when Stoick finishes the argument, almost disbelievingly, “You’re not my son.” before slamming the door shut behind him. And by the end of the film, Stoick is so happy that his son is alive that he finally realises that Hiccup isn’t doomed; he can make his own way to be a worthy Chief. By the end of the film, Stoick has accepted his son for who he is. For How To Train Your Dragon, that trope _works,_ because it’s a defining guideline for the movie. In Strange World it works less because neither Jaeger nor Searcher get character development.
So they find Pando in the mountains. Then they take Pando back to their town to grow. Someone explain to me how any of that can happen when Pando is literally one single plant. Like you can't move the plant because you're cutting it off from the main branch. Yet somehow not only do they get it back to their town, they can suddenly plant more of it that then connects to the single organism elsewhere?
They may have started harvesting there, and it may just take ages for the plant to link up and start producing, like it takes 2-3 years to grow and get connected
Searcher came off a bit ungrateful to the fact that his dad saved his life from falling to his death He doesn’t have to act like Danger was a hero But he should have been more open minded to his son about him
It's funny I used to think that Disney was great. After trope filled nonsense like this and all of the live action adaptations of classic cartoons I don't feel that way at all.
@@ronaldbell7429 Nah, Disney was never great. Their biggest successes are just re-tellings of already existing stories. There isn't even one original bone in all of Disney's company body.
@@Just4Fun-Zocker Slap in the face to all the talented animators and musicians that spent thousands of hours making the Disney golden age what it was. You're just being a little entitled.
@@e.t.2914 Fun fact: Meet the Robinsons was based on a picture book (albeit very loosely), with the book's author serving as executive producer. Not saying that I agree with Zocker, just that you'd need a better counterexample. I'd go with Lilo & Stitch, personally.
Jesus Christ it seems like memorable Disney villains and the non-use of the "I don't wanna be you" trope seems to happen once a blue moon now. I'm concerned for Elemental.
I just noticed, the turtle scale doesn't work. If you compare the eye to the humans and in the end sceane the whole turtle with the eye, there is never enough space in the mountain ring for the big city and Searchers farm and some of the other widen shots.
This is how I watch Disney films now. I just head over to cinema sins and get the gist and get to make fun of it all at once. Never disappointed for having not seen it. I realize how little I am actually missing.
Did we watch the same sins video? What about that was remotely worth sitting through an hour and 42 minutes. This is not the first “this cave we’re exploring/ island we live on is actually a giant creature” movie but imo is the worse [of the ones ive seen].
2014: Disney animation veteran Don Hall directs Big Hero 6, an animated sci-fi superhero film that wins the Oscar for Best Animated Feature. 2022: Hall directs Strange World, another animated sci-fi film, only except this one becomes Walt Disney Animation Studios biggest box office bomb since Treasure Planet. Also, what is the point of Disney doing a sci-fi film if they’re gonna screw most of them up?!
@@nailinthefashion When The Mitchell’s Vs The Machines had an lgbt character, that was fine. But whenever Disney make one, it’s all: “Oh no, that’s not right!”
Thank you, I hated Big hero 6 and now I know why this movie got me interested but upset at the same time. Got the same question I had why kill someone when not needed, why mix so many themes if they don't fit and meh ending...
@@AnaandVerity1259 I think its because mitchells vs the machine is a better movie and was not part of anything that big of a corperation like disney yet with disney there are more homophobia straight and racist people (you can check the reviews for strange world film it has people hating on the mix racial marriage as well as the gayness) in the franchise as disney's content use to heavily strand from stereotypes thus bringing people who like those stereotypes in more.
3:03 are you telling me you can't cook eggs like that? It's easy 1. Grease your pan (has to have slanted edges) 2. Use egg 3. Stove set to high 4. Wait for egg to start making a lot of noise 5. Turn off stove 6. Wait for egg to cook to desired doneness 7. Slide egg off pan You don't even have to use a spatula
I think the lack of marketing, generic script and excessive use of generic tropes killed this movie on arrival. It's a shame, it's a really well made picture.
"Yeah, it's great, Terry. Boffo. Socko. We love it! Except we think American audiences won't like the Death character very much, so we'll probably take him out . . . ."
can we please give credit to the people who wrote five full-length articles for that opening sequence? which, having read all of them, had very few typos and were actually very entertaining? that's some attention to detail right there.
Alas for "Strange World". Disney just threw it right into the deep end and let it flounder and sink in the box office. For whatever reason, personal or disinterest, it just didn't hold. And for me, I'm sad that I personally won't look at this as one of the underappreciated gems of the box office like "Atlantis" or "Lone Ranger". No, that would require a little more personality, but this film plays it so oddly safe and boring, it barely sticks out, and I find that pretty sad when your movie is about exploring an alien body.
Disney: let's make a movie with a gay main character so people think we are accepting. Also Disney: let's not advertise it, work a lot on it, basically make it in absolute secret because we absolutely are not accepting.
Also if you're going to make one of your main characters gay make their gayness at least somewhat relevant to the plot otherwise what's even the point?
@@cartooncritique6625 that isn't how representation works at all. The best way to represent a minority is by it just being a part of them, not some big "the plot is dependent on them being a minority". Shows that make a huge deal about it just reinforces that the minority is an outcast to be ogled instead of just another person like everyone else.
@@cartooncritique6625 Why does their gayness have to be a part of the plot? Can't they simply be gay? Like, a person can have a sexuality and not have it integral to the plot.
Did anyone notice in the scene thats supposed to be after 12:28, Jaeger isnt holding any gloves but somehow isnt shocked by the pando that hes holding?
4:37. The biggest effing sin is that Caravan Palace's Lone digger isn't part of the official soundtrack. The song is awesome, it's played in the movie and should get a whole bunch of attention. That one sin made me dislike the whole movie.
3:00 I've done it! Put a tiny bit of water by the egg, and cover it with a small pot lid. The steam will rise, but stay low thanks to the lid, and cook the top of the egg!
Knew that 'I have got to get me one of these!' from Independence Day had to be one of the outtakes. Though I was half expecting:'We're going to need a montage...'
The same way we gloss over that they discovered sand to make glass in a place that has no beaches. Or that the mountains contains precious metals to make an airship. Movie magic requires you to be as dumb as possible and just say pretty graphics and great plot!
Cinemasins: "I'm not saying we had to see every last detail about how they were able to discover what Pando could do and integrate it into Avalonia's society, but g------ a montage shouldn't be too much to ask. I want a montage!" *DING* _Meanwhile, in a universe where Strange World listened_ Moviesins: "Montage." *RING*
19:30 I was hoping I would see a shot like that, I haven’t seen the movie, but I was hoping I would see how exactly big the turtle is on the planet that they’re on once it was shown it was a gigantic turtle they lived on
3:06 if the whole world is a turtle in an endless ocean we can safely assume there's no poles, meaning there's no north or south fields to be deweeding
19:33 I think that would be the least of the turtle's problems, considering how the gravity of the planet itself would be directly affected by the turtle. Due to it having such a high mass it probably could have had enough mass to turn itself into a spherical object under its own weight and killing everyone.
the question I had was... did pando kill other crops? what do people eat in this world? if the turtle die would they sunk? it's mostly a giant skeleton... what does it eat to keep everything else alive on it?
I'm gay and I could care less. Give me a interesting non cookie-cutter character first before applying bland labels that doesn't make said character/s more interesting at their core.
@@sevionus80 I actually thought Lightyear did a good job of this, for what it's worth. The problem with a lot of these "diverse" characters is that they feel like they're thrown in as an afterthought to appease the D&I department and easily removed for releasing films in less "woke" countries, and it just seems like it annoys both sides.
Jeremy wanting a montage but I know for a fact that he would sin a montage as soon as he saw it.
Film doesn't show societal advancement
"They're being too vague, DING!"
Film shows societal advancement
"We get it! We don't need to see every change this made. subtly is key, DING!"
There's no winning.
@@Dalton_Boardman2000 🤣🤣🤣
@@Dalton_Boardman2000 no winning, only sinning
What I was thinking too 😭😭
I love it 😭😭
The fact that I had no idea this movie was happening really shows how much Disney has fallen
I never heard of it until 22 minutes ago.
I've heard of it but I have no interest in it what so ever.
I saw it on Disney plus just because I knew it would flop, they spent next to nothing on advertising. It wasn't even that good, struggles to sit through it.
No it’s cause they never advertised the movie.
And cause they fell off hard
You never heard of it because they never advertised it
Does Disney not know how to market their animated sci-fi movies?
They should start by taking their time with the creation of their movies and focus on making actual amazing movies first...
They also don't know how to write them lol
Illumination knows their marketing with the Mario movie as the UA-camr Schaffrillas believes. (Nice profile pic by the way!)
Don't know how to market their live-action ones, either -- complete ball-drop on "John Carter," a distinct dearth of decent toys for "Star Wars" since about 2015 compared to what we'd been used to before, this movie . . . .
I remember watching the trailers for this movie and having no idea what the plot was
There’s a lot of talk about the logistics of this turtle but nobody seems to acknowledge the terrifying fact that turtles have shells to protect themselves, meaning somewhere on that planet there is a natural predator to the turtle the size of a continent… let that keep you up at night
I am completely behind a Strange World sequel called Strange Worlds where each planet has its own giant animal, making up a galactic ecosystem. Bring on the space crocodiles!
Given the entire movie's worth of "biology" going on inside that turtle I wouldn't factor any sort of reasoning into it, but it's a quaint notion.
Its just the Reapers from Mass Effect 😂
It's a movie, not everything have to make sense
It could be that there USED to be a predator, and quite likely that humans were basically fleas on that thing and "explored" to the turtle and the predator has since gone extinct.
If I wanted to watch a strange sci-fi animated movie with flying ships and other world explorations that was badly marketed in purpose- I would simply watch Treasure Planet 😌
And what a much better use of time, that movie is right up there with 'Atlantis' and 'Titan A.E.'. Gone from the charts but not from our hearts.
Facts.
Not to mention the music for Treasure Planet is great too.
James Newton Howard never lets us down when it comes to soundtracks.
Yeah, I'd take Treasure Planet over this any day
At least Treasure Planet was good.
treasure planet was amazing
What if the turtle just decides to say fuck it and dives one day? Is the water just shallow? Also the size of the turtle relative to the planet is fucking hilarious
Also its entire insides make 0 sense 😂
If you mean shallow in comparison to the turtle then yes.
I could let few things go since it's movie and not everything have to make sense but yeah what turtle eats? What happens when it goes under water? Is it the only turtle in the world?
Either everybody is giant or planet is really small
I just realized Disney recycled this whole island on the back of a turtle thing from "Aladdin and the King of Thieves"...only there the reveal was more clever (less of a rip-off of Terry Pratchett) and yes, the turtle did dive taking the entire island with it.
Well, given that the turtle's Insides seem to be at least 85% air, I don't think it could sustain if even initiate a dive.
I always appreciate this channel because it gives me a synopsis of movies I'm never going to watch and gives me the highlights which I really appreciate
It's super easy, barely an inconvenience.....
@Lunatic Gaming "Oh really?"
@@lunaticgaming7967 Referencing other channels is tight!
Same. I was never gonna watch this movie before EWW covered it.
There were highlights to this movie?
2:58 I fry eggs like in the movie all the time. It's easy once you know what to do.
1. Sufficiently grease frypan with oil or butter and then heat.
2. Crack desired amount of eggs into hot pan.
3. Add small amount of warm water to bottom of a lid, then cover pan with lid, topside up.
4. Cook eggs and then remove from heat. Remove lid.
5. Carefully transfer eggs from frypan and onto a plate, using a spatula.
6. Add salt, pepper or other desired seasonings. Include desired sides such as toast. Enjoy.
Boom. You've cooked eggs with intact yolks that look just like the ones in the movie. Takes me about 5 minutes.
was looking for this comment
thanks, i will try this haha!
I normally just add a bit of water to the pan itself then cover it with the lid 🤔
Though I also season the eggs before then.
But yeah, using steam to help cook the eggs makes them so much easier to make and nice looking.
Thanks for the free recipe
Does it taste good Btw?
Nice👍👍👍🍳
the biggest sin is how the main character’s name is searcher.
In the Polish dub he was named Oscar which I think is much better
There's already real human beings named 'Hunter', 'Chase', 'Tracer', I'm not sure why 'Searcher' is out of the question. Like the main character of Final Fantasy 7 is named "Cloud" but is that the biggest sin for that game.
Don't get me started - we have characters like Meridian, Callisto, Duffle, and... Ethan and Rory.
This is my son hunter!
And my other son gatherer!
He must named himself as Villager
Watched this movie exactly once. And about less than halfway through I went "Oh, the creatures are attacking the humans just like white blood-cells". Shortly after, of course I realized that that was it...that was the entire plot line.
Kinda sad when you feel like a squeaky, blue, booger critter is the only redeemable thing in the entire film.
Is figuring out the reveal before the reveal happens sad? Why be mad at the movie for being "predictable" and not proud of yourself for picking up the hints?
Since there's no way for us meager humans to know what the universe even is right now, I often wonder if life is a corrosive, like rust or acid. Life tends to wreck stuff and is hard on whatever rock upon which it takes root.
@@melodi2036 I wouldn't have minded if if there had been more substance to the story. I get that it's a movie for children...but even children deserve stories that they can grow with. Stories even as recent as Moana or Encanto have not just reveals at the end...but also strong themes and sub-themes that propel the story and the characters within it.
It's perfectly fine to have a film where certain things are predictable, it means that the plot line is coherent and isn't fully dependent on half-baked plot twists.
But when the entire plot is based on a fairly weak reveal...it kinda loses its luster. Comes across as lazy or incomplete writing.
@@Sarappreciates More accurately, humans tend to wreck stuff. We're just a side-effect of life; so-to-speak.
I mean, nothing redeemable unless you count the implications of the grandfather, father, son parts. It's easy to delude yourself into thinking you're better or different than the people that came before you, but no one starts out that way, and if you haven't been through a lot and done a lot of active, purposeful growing, you'll end up making the same mistakes as they did. It's a simple message but when you actually start thinking about how it can apply to day-to-day life it's really interesting. For me anyways, :p
11:44 I love it when a movie tells me exactly what the message is with extremely shallow metaphors. Love it to pieces.
And it's also another reminder how boring Disney has been lately with eschewing proper villains for metaphorical or personal ones.
Well the metaphors can't be too deep for the target audience (literal children) to understand
@@melodi2036 Give the kids some credit. It was fricking boring.
@@melodi2036 Watched it with my nephews who are 5 and 7 years old and they knew the message before that scene came up. Do not excuse Disney being lazy because you think kids are dumb. Overall though, the movie was harmless enough for a single viewing but won't get more than that.
If you don't spoon feed them the propaganda before they're old enough to think for themselves, you might lose your power.
Remember when seeing "From Disney/Pixar" before a movie let you know you were gonna experience something amazing? I miss those days...
Also maybe you got old? Maybe you lost your childhood wonder and curiosity and are blaming Disney?
This movie wasn't made by Pixar, it was Walt Disney Animation Studios.
Which is actually worse, since they've made all the best Disney movies in recent years:
Zootopia, Frozen, Moana, Tangled, Encanto, Big Hero 6, Wreck-it Ralph.
@@melodi2036 Nah I was old when Disney/Pixar started making CGI movies, they've definitely declined in quality 😅 But now I feel old haha
Disney has always had its ups and downs. Between the golden age 1937-1942 and the silver age 1950-1967 you had the wartime years with disjointed package films like Make Mine Music and Melody time, movies that have not stood the test of time like the best films from the eras before and after like Snow White and the Seven Dwarves, Pinochio, Cinderella, Bambi and The Jungle Book. Then you had the 1970s and 1980s with Disney releasing such old-fashioned movies like Charley and the Angel and One of Our Dinosaurs is Missing when The Exorcist and Jaws were dominating the box office or flops like The Black Cauldron and Return to Oz against the success of Back to the Future which Disney turned down. (Fun fact, they objected to Lorraine kissing her future son in the car!) But then they bounced back with their adult venture Touchstone Pictures and the Disney Renaissance of 1989-1999. The Lion King, The Little Mermaid and Aladdin were big hits. Then post-renaissance they had flops with Home on the Range and Treasure Planet,while Pixar overshadowed them, leading them to buy Pixar. A pity that they let go of John Lasseter since he seemed to direct and produce animated films people wanted to see. But Disney does bounce back after tough times. They need a good CEO after Iger, someone like Michael Eisner.
@@salinium Pixar always made CGI movies
Given that the pando is electrically charged, attaches to the heart, and pulses with the heat of said heart: the pando appears to be parasitically dependent on the turtle to grow.
Originally, the turtle's passive and active immune systems restricted how much pando could grow, establishing an equilibrium that kept the pando from notably threatening the turtle's life. It was the humans that broke that equilibrium by cultivating mass quantities of the pando, resulting in it overpowering the immune system and overwhelming the turtle.
So if the turtle dies, the pando dies, and their civilization collapses from the suddenly loss of power.
so the pando is cancer?
Wow! Maybe the movie should've explained this to the viewers so that their audience of literal children wouldn't have to think this hard about the movie!
fun fact: there is a "tree" named Pando and it is acually a forest while being a "single tree" because it has roots connecting with every copy of Pando, that happens because the soild that Pando growing in is very fertile and i think the movie was based off Pando
yeah, its definitely based off the tree colony in Utah.
please stop saying pando
My family tried to watch this over Christmas after we saw it on Disney+. Even my seven year old nephew and his three year old little sister didn't want to finish it. Halfway through, after constant fidgeting and playing, they asked if we could stop and watch The Incredibles.
Should watch the movie before showing it to a child so young and also have them tested for adhd/add if they need that much stimulation
@@nailinthefashion Not at all it just means the movie is boring even to kids. There's no need to watch a movie that's marketed to kids before showing it to kids.
@@BioYuGi that's a lame way of parenting lol roll the dice if you want then
@@nailinthefashion lmaooo
@@timothyalan34 experiment with meaningful parenting not drugs next time and maybe you'll find the nuance in a story literally about breaking generational trauma lol
Disney just did not market this movie at all and acted shocked when it bombed
"Oh, well, we TRIED doing an original story, and look how it bombed. TWENTY MORE LIVE-ACTION REMAKES, IT IS, THEN!!!"
they did market it, just not that much.
@@dragonsman4733 my dude they released like one trailer
Snd then a second trailer like a whole year after the other one
And then just pushed the little mermaid movie
i got so many trailers for this movie, i wonder how disney chooses who to market to.
It's like they knew.
So, funny enough, I have a degree in biochem and am getting a MS in cell biology. I could probably refute about 20-30 sins based on real life human biology.
That being said, I’m only going to refute this: your body? FULL of ball sack-like structures. All over the place. Your cells? Ball sacks. Your kidneys? Ball sacks. Your lungs? You guessed it! Ball sacks. So, yes, random hanging ball sacks in a tube that might be part of the cardiovascular system is theoretically accurate.
Cripes, I love it when fellow biologists get involved with movie discussions! I think every film or TV show needs at least one General Science Thumper on the crew, and several Specialist Thumpers, depending on the themes being explored. Their role would be to carry a large chunk of wood and hit people who say things like "the neutrinos mutated," or "there should be an orang-utan in India," and suchlike.
I mean now that I think of it ovaries are just floating ballsacs with smaller balls in them
@@tanandalynch9441 can't forget testicles then
We need to start asking the big question: What percentage of the human body is ball sacks?
@@rubles88alvarez83 depends on how strict your definition of “ball sack” is XD
"How is this turtle not in constant pain"
Easy answer.
One of its equivalent of a Blood Cell, is the size of their ship
A blood Cell could be shot through your arm, and you wouldn't notice.
For things to hurt, it needs to trigger nerves.
If these people walking on the turtle hurt it, then every single bit of bacteria on you would be painful for you
My first thought after the credits started rolling for this one was,
"A Goofy Movie did the father vs son conflict FAR better than this movie did."
Yes absolutely I agree because the goofy movie was amazing
Yes !! thank you - a Goofy movie is so underrated 😊 x
The lack of marketing was stranger than this film.
The only marketing was the articles freaking out how gay Ethan was
@@tiamystic now and prob forever this movie is gonna sit in the top 100 biggest movie financial failures of all time
I'm a big fan of cosmic horror creatures with bodies so massive and otherworldly they can act like an ecosystem for humans, so I really like the concept and world building of this movie. It's a shame basically no one else likes this movie and neither does Disney.
agreed!! i love this movie
just wish they did the relationships better and maybe even have the dad as the actual villian
I also loved this! It’s really over hated
SAME
Eureka 7 👀
As someone who works in the medical field. I figured out it was a creature they were inside pretty much the moment they entered. It’s painfully obvious
yeah i wouldve expected as much..?
15:55 I haven't seen the movie, but this moment is actually f'king TERRIFYING!
19:30 Agreed, that planet is way too small to sustain something that large. But also . . . where are the other turtles to reproduce with? What if the turtle goes underwater? Is there any land? Does the turtle make regular circuits around this tiny (relative to the turtle) planet that simulate a sunrise/sunset for the people? So many questions!
I think the turtle is based on some native american creation myth so you might wanna look there for answers. mythos isnt always logical tho
Also, what does it eat!? Like it has been stated that the acid field is its stomach, but what would it digest!???? It could be plankton but… it would have to CONSTANTLY feed to sustain like a 9,000 mile long body
@@Whydoiexisthere-a lot of it could be shell, it's got so much dirt on it so it appears a lot bigger
@@ohhi7168actually based on ancient old world ideas
@@Whydoiexisthere- it seems to be covered in trees with roots extending into its body, so maybe they photosynthesize and it derives energy from that (or just consumes some of the mass they produce)? Now we're thinking more about this than anyone involved in making the movie actually did.
I love how Jeremy is acting like these guys can make a large enough hole to kill the turtle when they’re minuscule in comparison 15:50
A minor thing:
The “I’m not you, dad” trope came WAYYYY WAY WAYYYYYY too early in the movie to have any impact. Now to be fair I haven’t watched the movie for myself, only this video; but the way Jaeger reacted made me think it was meant to have a sort of emotional impact for the audience? I mean it makes sense for the context of Jaeger’s character probably, but we’ve known these characters for what, five minutes?
It automatically made me think to the scene at the end of Act II of How To Train Your Dragon (one of my favourite movies of all time by the way) where Hiccup and Stoick are arguing in the Great Hall; Stoick goes off at his son for befriending a dragon, claiming “They’ve murdered _hundreds_ of us!”
And Hiccup pleads back, trying to reason, “And we’ve killed _thousands_ of them!”
That part works because we’ve familiarised ourselves with the characters over the course of the movie. We know Hiccup’s and Stoick’s dynamic and their relationship to each other: we live through Hiccup’s struggle to make his father proud as a black-sheep teenager who doesn’t have the physique to be the best at the Dragon Fighting Academy; we see Stoick acquiescently maintain his stoic, sturdy, strong personality as he faces his duties as Chief first, father second. For the former, we can tell that Hiccup is a bright young teenager because we live through his struggle to fit in even though he has revolutionary ideas and a loser reputation. For the latter, we understand that Stoick wants the best for his son, even if he only thinks one thing is the best: being a dragon-killer in order to be the best Viking and next Chief.
That’s why it’s such a detrimental blow to the audience when Stoick finishes the argument, almost disbelievingly, “You’re not my son.” before slamming the door shut behind him.
And by the end of the film, Stoick is so happy that his son is alive that he finally realises that Hiccup isn’t doomed; he can make his own way to be a worthy Chief. By the end of the film, Stoick has accepted his son for who he is.
For How To Train Your Dragon, that trope _works,_ because it’s a defining guideline for the movie.
In Strange World it works less because neither Jaeger nor Searcher get character development.
You deserve an award just for typing that out. A wonderful description!
Man I love HTTYD. Haven't watched the original film in years
@@shrikeye3574 thank you so much!
@@drawingdragon it’s a masterpiece :)
So they find Pando in the mountains. Then they take Pando back to their town to grow. Someone explain to me how any of that can happen when Pando is literally one single plant. Like you can't move the plant because you're cutting it off from the main branch. Yet somehow not only do they get it back to their town, they can suddenly plant more of it that then connects to the single organism elsewhere?
They may have started harvesting there, and it may just take ages for the plant to link up and start producing, like it takes 2-3 years to grow and get connected
You ever planted bamboo?
I tell you that doing a live action original & then animated remake for Tomorrowland is actually an intriguing move from disney
OMG I forgot about Tomorrowland!
Searcher came off a bit ungrateful to the fact that his dad saved his life from falling to his death
He doesn’t have to act like Danger was a hero
But he should have been more open minded to his son about him
Thats true and i love the plotwist
I just love the movie its amazing
“I’m looking for a job” followed by “WE ARE FARMERS” was actually genius🤣
Totally agreed they came to some conclusions way too quickly and with very little evidence
It's funny I used to think that Disney was great. After trope filled nonsense like this and all of the live action adaptations of classic cartoons I don't feel that way at all.
Disney used to *be* great. Just not in awhile.
@@ronaldbell7429 Nah, Disney was never great. Their biggest successes are just re-tellings of already existing stories. There isn't even one original bone in all of Disney's company body.
@@Just4Fun-Zocker I thought meet the robinsons was pretty good.
@@Just4Fun-Zocker Slap in the face to all the talented animators and musicians that spent thousands of hours making the Disney golden age what it was.
You're just being a little entitled.
@@e.t.2914 Fun fact: Meet the Robinsons was based on a picture book (albeit very loosely), with the book's author serving as executive producer.
Not saying that I agree with Zocker, just that you'd need a better counterexample. I'd go with Lilo & Stitch, personally.
I keep forgetting this movie existed. Disney's marketing for this was AWFUL, it's almost as if they didn't wanna show it
Jesus Christ it seems like memorable Disney villains and the non-use of the "I don't wanna be you" trope seems to happen once a blue moon now.
I'm concerned for Elemental.
"And yeah they have Caspian keeping an eye on him, but it's f-ing Caspian."
Me whos named Caspian: That's very fair
Caspian is a fantastic name imo
@@SteampunkHorse Thank you, I picked it myself.
I just noticed, the turtle scale doesn't work. If you compare the eye to the humans and in the end sceane the whole turtle with the eye, there is never enough space in the mountain ring for the big city and Searchers farm and some of the other widen shots.
This is how I watch Disney films now. I just head over to cinema sins and get the gist and get to make fun of it all at once. Never disappointed for having not seen it. I realize how little I am actually missing.
I almost watched it once. I’m glad I didn’t because that saved me from wasting 2-3 hours
The real sin is how terribly this movie was marketed
Sorry sin guy, the unbroken yolk eggs are doable, made some this morning 😅
What a sad sin hahahaha I legit pity the fool if that was authentic
8:35 I also got that. I thought that that pilot would resurface somehow.
That was dark.
16:04. Sin off. THAT SHOT. You can tell they started with this picture and wrote a movie around it because it was so good.
the film actually had some unique aspects of filming hope it was better
Did we watch the same sins video? What about that was remotely worth sitting through an hour and 42 minutes. This is not the first “this cave we’re exploring/ island we live on is actually a giant creature” movie but imo is the worse [of the ones ive seen].
It's time to put the phrase "I've got to get me one of these" out of my misery.
2:54 um a kid who is glad to see that his parents are still a happy couple after years.
Bonus sin: The dog eats avocado which is toxic to dogs
2014: Disney animation veteran Don Hall directs Big Hero 6, an animated sci-fi superhero film that wins the Oscar for Best Animated Feature.
2022: Hall directs Strange World, another animated sci-fi film, only except this one becomes Walt Disney Animation Studios biggest box office bomb since Treasure Planet.
Also, what is the point of Disney doing a sci-fi film if they’re gonna screw most of them up?!
They really thought the lgbt+ word of mouth would be enough but we had no idea this was for us til it hit streaming lmao
@@nailinthefashion When The Mitchell’s Vs The Machines had an lgbt character, that was fine. But whenever Disney make one, it’s all:
“Oh no, that’s not right!”
Thank you, I hated Big hero 6 and now I know why this movie got me interested but upset at the same time. Got the same question I had why kill someone when not needed, why mix so many themes if they don't fit and meh ending...
@@AnaandVerity1259 its not about having them or not, its about to make them right or a joke
@@AnaandVerity1259 I think its because mitchells vs the machine is a better movie and was not part of anything that big of a corperation like disney yet with disney there are more homophobia straight and racist people (you can check the reviews for strange world film it has people hating on the mix racial marriage as well as the gayness) in the franchise as disney's content use to heavily strand from stereotypes thus bringing people who like those stereotypes in more.
*Alan Tudyk getting killed in the pilot seat cliché* DING!
WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT "I'M A LEAF ON THE WIND" SLIDE-ON!
They really had to pull that on us didn't they
Excuse me while I go cry
14:34 “FILTHY GROUND, ACID RAAAAIIIN, POUR-ING DOWN LIKE EGG SCHOUME”
14:17 idk why but this made me laugh so much
3:03 are you telling me you can't cook eggs like that?
It's easy
1. Grease your pan (has to have slanted edges)
2. Use egg
3. Stove set to high
4. Wait for egg to start making a lot of noise
5. Turn off stove
6. Wait for egg to cook to desired doneness
7. Slide egg off pan
You don't even have to use a spatula
I had completely forgotten about this movie lmao.
It’s one of my all time faves
@@nailinthefashionwas it your first animated movie too?
@@frank.e.wildcat no I just related to a story about breaking male generational trauma more than most other ones offered lol
I think the lack of marketing, generic script and excessive use of generic tropes killed this movie on arrival. It's a shame, it's a really well made picture.
It's kind of like they took a Terry Pratchet story and edited it after a single audience test screening.
"Yeah, it's great, Terry. Boffo. Socko. We love it! Except we think American audiences won't like the Death character very much, so we'll probably take him out . . . ."
It's sad when you realize this is probably what Treasure Planet would be like if it was made today
can we please give credit to the people who wrote five full-length articles for that opening sequence? which, having read all of them, had very few typos and were actually very entertaining? that's some attention to detail right there.
4:02 "these are cards? you would camp out for fricking cards?" every Pokémon enthusiast everywhere: really? :/
Alas for "Strange World". Disney just threw it right into the deep end and let it flounder and sink in the box office. For whatever reason, personal or disinterest, it just didn't hold. And for me, I'm sad that I personally won't look at this as one of the underappreciated gems of the box office like "Atlantis" or "Lone Ranger". No, that would require a little more personality, but this film plays it so oddly safe and boring, it barely sticks out, and I find that pretty sad when your movie is about exploring an alien body.
I cherish it bc it’s so safe. i finally have my cozy queer film that doesn’t ask a lot of me, I can just enjoy the whimsy
@@nailinthefashion Congrats. At least it does something for you, so that's good.
5:09 I was thinking the sin would be "film wants to be Moana but never can be Moana"
Disney: let's make a movie with a gay main character so people think we are accepting.
Also Disney: let's not advertise it, work a lot on it, basically make it in absolute secret because we absolutely are not accepting.
Disney: Lets dana make the owl houses main characters gay.
Also Disney: Cancels the show and make up an excuse
Also if you're going to make one of your main characters gay make their gayness at least somewhat relevant to the plot otherwise what's even the point?
@@cartooncritique6625 that isn't how representation works at all. The best way to represent a minority is by it just being a part of them, not some big "the plot is dependent on them being a minority". Shows that make a huge deal about it just reinforces that the minority is an outcast to be ogled instead of just another person like everyone else.
@@cartooncritique6625 I think its more representation than anything else but i see what you mean.
@@cartooncritique6625 Why does their gayness have to be a part of the plot? Can't they simply be gay? Like, a person can have a sexuality and not have it integral to the plot.
The biggest sin is that he didn't sin the fact that CALLISTO LOCKED UP THE ONLY REAL PILOT ON THE ENTIRE SHIP. 17:14
Did anyone notice in the scene thats supposed to be after 12:28, Jaeger isnt holding any gloves but somehow isnt shocked by the pando that hes holding?
Me: watches a movie
Me - goes right to cinemasins
4:37. The biggest effing sin is that Caravan Palace's Lone digger isn't part of the official soundtrack. The song is awesome, it's played in the movie and should get a whole bunch of attention. That one sin made me dislike the whole movie.
3:00
I've done it!
Put a tiny bit of water by the egg, and cover it with a small pot lid. The steam will rise, but stay low thanks to the lid, and cook the top of the egg!
Well since I'm never gonna watch this movie I'll just watch it here
Yeah, this is the closest I will ever get to watching the movie
My name IRL is caspian, I've never watched this movie, and I was caught so off-guard when I heard my name
Knew that 'I have got to get me one of these!' from Independence Day had to be one of the outtakes.
Though I was half expecting:'We're going to need a montage...'
The opening for strange world legit looks like a DuckTales episode
Did anyone else see the resemblance between the dad's dad and the dog?
That might be done on purpose
4:37 You also forgot to sin him for not using proper cutting techniques, which could lead to him losing his finger.
So are we gonna gloss over how the broken windshield magically repairs itself?
The same way we gloss over that they discovered sand to make glass in a place that has no beaches.
Or that the mountains contains precious metals to make an airship. Movie magic requires you to be as dumb as possible and just say pretty graphics and great plot!
3:30 -- there are dogs in australia who are addicted to licking frogs, so YES, the dog is doing it on purpose
While I agree with the sin at 5:46 I can’t deny the delivery of “OUR SON, IS ON, YOUR S H I P!” was brilliant
It’s like we’re in some kind of… STRANGE WORLD
Surprised, you didn't sin the use of Clade, for a family name of explorers.
4:03
Clearly you have no idea the lengths Yugioh/MTG/Pokémon card collectors would go to in order to get rare cards
I really wanted to like this movie, it's retro space adventure got me excited but its "MESSAGE" was really pushing hard
What message? That gay people are real? Cuz if so that’s not a message that’s a f*ckin fact of reality,
Sorry not sorry
2:05 gimme a montage so I can sin the montage. LOL
The fact searcher doesnt livein a billionaire home even though his ideas runs the whole place, he should be practically leader..
I have kept those yolks perfect dozens of times
20:30 Major props for mentioning the greatest work of literature in history. Far too few UA-cam videos don't dive deep enough into Finnegans Wake.
Cinemasins: "I'm not saying we had to see every last detail about how they were able to discover what Pando could do and integrate it into Avalonia's society, but g------ a montage shouldn't be too much to ask. I want a montage!" *DING*
_Meanwhile, in a universe where Strange World listened_
Moviesins: "Montage." *RING*
19:30 I was hoping I would see a shot like that, I haven’t seen the movie, but I was hoping I would see how exactly big the turtle is on the planet that they’re on once it was shown it was a gigantic turtle they lived on
Pilot : *literally dies*
Everyone else : what pilot?
watched this movie high, literally one of the funniest and scariest experiences i’ve had
I think Terry Pratchett's lawyers might like a word with the Disney Studio for stealing his giant turtle.
they did it. they reviewed a movie i haven't heard off !!!
3:06 if the whole world is a turtle in an endless ocean we can safely assume there's no poles, meaning there's no north or south fields to be deweeding
11:10
Man really hit us with the I'm only human afterall
19:33 I think that would be the least of the turtle's problems, considering how the gravity of the planet itself would be directly affected by the turtle. Due to it having such a high mass it probably could have had enough mass to turn itself into a spherical object under its own weight and killing everyone.
you know its a good day when CinemaSins posts a video for the 2nd day in a row
Bro it has been an eternity since I’ve seen this channel’s content
literally never heard of this movie until watching this video
Let's be honest, if they actually did a montage about the people figuring out how to use the plant, that would have gotten sinned too-
the question I had was... did pando kill other crops? what do people eat in this world? if the turtle die would they sunk? it's mostly a giant skeleton... what does it eat to keep everything else alive on it?
It's magic. Science voodoo whatever.
I forgot this movie existed.
10:49 Looks like he went to Tighten's School of Getting People to Like You
I genuinely didn’t know this movie existed until now
Gay character in a Disney movie: exists.
Marketing department: Aight, Imma head out.
I'm gay and I could care less.
Give me a interesting non cookie-cutter character first before applying bland labels that doesn't make said character/s more interesting at their core.
@@sevionus80 I actually thought Lightyear did a good job of this, for what it's worth. The problem with a lot of these "diverse" characters is that they feel like they're thrown in as an afterthought to appease the D&I department and easily removed for releasing films in less "woke" countries, and it just seems like it annoys both sides.
Thank you for that nod to the narrator/newscaster's final line in his greatest work @ 19:48. *Alan Tudyk* is brilliant!🥰
1:26 best line
19:48 not the "I'm a leaf on the wind" line 😭