Old vs New School Hip Hop Series Part 4: Is New School Respected? | DEHH

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  • @RenzyTheGreat
    @RenzyTheGreat 13 років тому +3

    I'm 19 and watching the dead end hip hop videos have totally changed my perspective of hip hop/rap in a good way. And I thank you guys. But sadly my generation is full of stubborn teenagers who won't give old school rappers a chance. Our generation is smart when it comes to technology but ignorant when it comes to morals, respect and honor

  • @maccolunga1
    @maccolunga1 11 років тому +8

    "i learned how music back then actually had a message" my god

  • @Gunnernooneother
    @Gunnernooneother 10 років тому +6

    The young generation would only bash the old folks that are stuck on 90's album and say modern music aint what it used to be.

  • @ModestMediaTube
    @ModestMediaTube 13 років тому +1

    @mikesbruv Appreciate that man...I don't think ppl realize how complicated it can be trying to capture as many key moments as possible into these 15 to 20 min segments...There's SO much great footage to go through! I see you comment all the time, thanks for being such a loyal follower of the show.

  • @AQGOAT24
    @AQGOAT24 9 років тому +15

    Plato's allegory of the cave being applied to people thinking Drake has dope rhymes haha..

  • @Grizzam721
    @Grizzam721 11 років тому +1

    Man, I REALLY wish that I was in this room. In this conversation. C Town makes the most sense to me.

  • @da1onlynickvicious
    @da1onlynickvicious 12 років тому

    the content is complex but he delivers it in a real simple boom bap type of way...genius.his metaphors are all clever but easy to grasp..hes a master of walkin that line

  • @mikesbruv
    @mikesbruv 13 років тому

    Just gotta give props to modest media's camera work, even though everyone gets well passionate (apart from beezy, he seems pretty laid back), these vids are edited really well, nice

  • @mykectown
    @mykectown 13 років тому +5

    @yugang08 Yes, I heard Comeback Season only because I thought So Far Gone was so bad that I had to be missing something. While Comeback Season was better, I still didn't think it was amazing. The convo was about Drake now. And, yes, I think Drake is wack. What's bizarre is people acting like I'm the first person to say Drake can't rap.

  • @ORDERnPROGRESS
    @ORDERnPROGRESS 12 років тому +1

    I completely agree with the comment about stoupe. Stoupe was what made JMT great, and when Vinnie was Ikon they had a unique style. BUT Times have changed.

  • @Tcthegxd
    @Tcthegxd 12 років тому +1

    The 1 thing that always angers me about people who hate drake ( not sayin im a drake fan) is the fact that HES NOT TRYNA BE HARD thats the reason i respect him cuz hes litettlry when you think about it this generation LL COOL Jay

  • @dablakryu
    @dablakryu 12 років тому

    That's a real good point u made,i think u may of hit the nail on the head!!

  • @ZACKBLACK
    @ZACKBLACK 12 років тому +1

    this video literally explains why i dont really get along with kids my age....

  • @MrCrim123
    @MrCrim123 13 років тому

    C Town food explanation is one of the best I have heard. I always tell my peers to get on the internet and SEARCH for new music, they will most likely find someone they enjoy more than their current favorite rapper. Nas used to be my favorite MC, but then his consistency was lacking and I discovered MF DOOM who with his obscurity and lack of bad album over took Nas. I would not be surprised if I find someone in the future who I like more than DOOM, the constant digging is always fruitful.

  • @ProtaJ
    @ProtaJ 12 років тому +1

    What's the name of the instrumental playing in the beginning??

  • @morganmccormick3450
    @morganmccormick3450 9 років тому +3

    One thing you guys don't mention is the complete change of the music industry. The rappers that don't have a lot to say just rap about their surroundings. A writer writes what he knows. A rapper raps what he knows. The hip hop industry is vastly different from what it was in the 90s. They weren't flying private jets and popping a molly in the 90s.

    • @christ-Revealed
      @christ-Revealed 9 років тому +1

      Morgan McCormick lie, biggie,pac, ice t in the 80s wia talking that

  • @bandicoot2ps1
    @bandicoot2ps1 13 років тому

    These videos have the best intros.Who produces this beginning and t.he ones with the flute

  • @chaosinorderrr
    @chaosinorderrr 12 років тому

    you hit the nail on the head!

  • @Nielsen700
    @Nielsen700 13 років тому

    There's three reviews you guys just have to do. Domo Genesis - Under The Influence, Casey Veggies - Sleeping In Class (Deluxe Edition) and Das Racist - Relax.

  • @ejazzjeff
    @ejazzjeff 13 років тому

    8:30-8:37 the defintion of hip hop and probably music in general!

  • @MrOhioPlayer
    @MrOhioPlayer 11 років тому

    And the comeback season Mixtape . Elzhi ,Phonte, and 9th wonder all approved

  • @Tharman2108
    @Tharman2108 13 років тому

    I think it boils down to the younger generation wanting to fit in with their peers. I can't see the incentive for them to dig through old school hip hop when they have no one to share it with.

  • @t2easycolbert
    @t2easycolbert 12 років тому

    i agree on you about when drake is trying to be hard or when he talk about shit that doesnt really relate to him but when he talks about his family, life, past experience ect. thats when hes good or great to me

  • @igotacos64
    @igotacos64 13 років тому

    Feefo had an amazing point about simplicity, it has its place. When im gettin pumped for a football game i aint gonna be listenn 2 no complicated deep shit, i listen 2 flocka! When i want a laugh nd some corny fun lines i listen to wayne. When i want sum left feild shield shit i got tyler. We hav a place 4 everything

  • @sophakingcool5532
    @sophakingcool5532 10 років тому +2

    Mkye is the shit LMAO " ' Boy I aint nothing to play with'.......SHUT THE FUCK UP" LMFAO!!!!

  • @ModestMediaTube
    @ModestMediaTube 13 років тому

    @sdofik LOL, i think you may be referring to me, the camera man(Rod aka Modest Media)....i'm always laughing dude, i cant help it. Producing this show is so much fun. Thanks for watching and subscribing man!

  • @DeathToCarl
    @DeathToCarl 13 років тому

    Can someone tell me what the name of the track in the first twenty seconds of the video is? I feel like a chump because I have no idea.

  • @Smorgasvord
    @Smorgasvord 13 років тому

    You guys NEED to listen to the group Rhyme Asylum if you love underground hip hop...I would love to see a video on you guys talking about them....they will blow your mind

  • @Boog3aFied
    @Boog3aFied 12 років тому

    i wish i had a bunch of ppl to talk to like this and especially C Town

  • @fivegirlsonevase
    @fivegirlsonevase 13 років тому

    make sure to review the new blackalicious when it comes out plz

  • @TheDreamLoveKing3
    @TheDreamLoveKing3 13 років тому

    yall should have your own tv show

  • @mmmackjr91
    @mmmackjr91 13 років тому

    Damn the series went through a whole movie. Note credits playing at the end.

  • @dougrabbit
    @dougrabbit 13 років тому +1

    I agree with C-Town on alot of what he says and I'm a college kid, but to say drake cant spit is bizarre especially when he's old shit with LB and 9th wonder was hella dope, Think Good Thoughts is such a dope track.

  • @kjettpack
    @kjettpack 12 років тому

    THIS HAS BEEN A FUCKING GREAT SERIES

  • @ErlingGrey
    @ErlingGrey 13 років тому

    btw are you guys watching casino in the background?! :D

  • @Eziokilla9595
    @Eziokilla9595 13 років тому +6

    Drake vs. Big L....
    Lyrics - L
    Flow - L
    Freestyle - L
    Punchlines - L
    Story Telling - L
    Winner - L

    • @pirloallan7694
      @pirloallan7694 4 роки тому +3

      Eziokilla9595 it’s safe to say that drake took that L

    • @itsqobaby7226
      @itsqobaby7226 3 роки тому

      @@pirloallan7694 bars

  • @arexyouxepicxenough
    @arexyouxepicxenough 12 років тому +1

    It's just that compared to their work with stoupe it looks weak (production wise). There is a major step down when you go from heavy metal kings an I against I to When Crows Descend Upon You. The production on violent by design is perfection. When you go from production perfection to good it looks like a major step down. Also, I love the cold vein. I call it the greatest of all time.

  • @TalentX99
    @TalentX99 12 років тому

    I think feefo was trying to say that the tempos and drum loops are different bringing out different rhyme schemes that are not as raw.

  • @Fiyablasta
    @Fiyablasta 13 років тому

    @mykectown You know, I wanna know what your opinion is on a rapper named Wax. He started off (kinda) like a UA-cam rapper and now he just recently signed to Def Jam. Anyways I think you should check him out. His channel is waxandherbalt. Sift through it cuz he's got a lot of different material.

  • @child661
    @child661 13 років тому

    you should talk a bit about how you all feel about Odd future

  • @timsohn7057
    @timsohn7057 8 років тому +3

    There are so many young kids I met who WANT to learn about the hiphop outside of your j coles, kendricks. I would love to get a spot like this to have a great convo

  • @ORDERnPROGRESS
    @ORDERnPROGRESS 12 років тому

    True. But then again he's a little more creative than mainstream rappers. I actually want to see Dead End Hip Hop review some old classics, maybe Violent by Design could be throw into that list.

  • @TaffyRaphie
    @TaffyRaphie 13 років тому

    Casino in the background. sick movie

  • @1popblocker9er
    @1popblocker9er 11 років тому

    An argument that will never cease.....

  • @wisdom261
    @wisdom261 12 років тому

    @Bellcasus The artist are Kid and Play,I think

  • @zzGore324
    @zzGore324 9 років тому +1

    This is the "Great Debate"

  • @deleite5000
    @deleite5000 12 років тому

    IT ALL COMES DOWN TO THIS:
    YOU LISTEN TO THE MUSIC TO YOU GOT INTRODUCE TO THAT IS RELEVANT AT THE MOMENT, DEPENDING IN WHAT GENERATION WAS THAT IS. SINSE YOU A LITTLE KID TO A TEENAGER. WHEN YOU GET OLDER YOUR STILL ATTACHED TO IT. AND THAT WOULD CHANGE IN EVERY GENERATION , EVEN THE YOUNG CATS THIS DAYS. IS A CIRCLE THAT NEVER ENDS.
    IS LIFE...YOU JUST NEED TO SEE THE PSICOLOGY BEHIND IT. AND IM NO PSIC JUST LOVE MUSIC.

  • @mykectown
    @mykectown 13 років тому

    @spcw4 I asked the same question. Cats get upset when you don't care for their idols.

  • @ORDERnPROGRESS
    @ORDERnPROGRESS 13 років тому

    @Eziokilla9595 It's not their best I agree, but Ive never heard them review Jedi Mind Tricks. I'm sure Feefo would say Violence Begets Violence would bump in the whip. I'd actually really want to see a review for Violent By Design or Servants in Heaven, Kings in Hell, but they never do classic/old albums. They should start though.

  • @gallyun1
    @gallyun1 13 років тому

    I was feeling Drake when he made that "Comeback Season" mixtape, but when he dropped "Thank Me Later" on Cash Money I was disappointed. To no surprise when Drake went mainstream his lyrics got little watered down as well.

  • @khordkutta
    @khordkutta 11 років тому

    It appears that not many in hiphop look @ the history of the genre, where fans of other genres appreciate the history more.

  • @igotacos64
    @igotacos64 13 років тому

    Myke, @ the end did u say RUCKA ALI????

  • @Ell0llE
    @Ell0llE 13 років тому

    Balance is the only thing thats missing. I understand why Gucci, Audemar riches is famous todays day but there has to be a balance in order for people to understand why hip hop is hip hop. Too much of one thing isn't good. I know all music can't be different but simple all the time isn't good neither is lyrical all the time. But thats my opinion. Love how many different points of view you guys have its intriguing to hear everyone voice there own opinion.

  • @Bishman
    @Bishman 13 років тому

    @mykectown I agree with you that Drake isn't lyrical but you have to admit he is a great song writer. It is hard to explain but the way he structures his songs are amazing. When I listen to Drake, I get everything he is saying the first time I listen to it. And that is fine. When I want to listen to cold lyricists, I listen to Jay, Lupe, Nas, J. Cole, Black Thought. But I feel like hip hop just needs a balance. For every Drake, we get a J.Cole.

  • @florianblair
    @florianblair 11 років тому

    drake i so honest though he isn't a deep thinking lyricist but he tells it like it is and lays out his feelings that people can relate to no one else does that

  • @BigHank75
    @BigHank75 12 років тому

    The snapbacks are effecting these guys brains.

  • @TheDC214
    @TheDC214 13 років тому

    Yall should review Doppelgangaz - Lone Sharks album

  • @ORDERnPROGRESS
    @ORDERnPROGRESS 13 років тому

    You guys talk alot about music that bangs, I'd be real interested to hear your opinion on Jedi Mind Tricks new album Violence Begets Violence, which not only bangs but has complex concepts and lyricism.

  • @jfraz1992
    @jfraz1992 12 років тому

    no its just the fact that he's has substance and more of a balance in his songs compared to anybody else

  • @Xflame963
    @Xflame963 13 років тому

    its not about the golden era or this new school hiphop..its about GOOD HIPHOP and SKILLS..if you take Rakim Acapella's and u do a remix with a good Southern beat..the track still would sound dope

  • @ORDERnPROGRESS
    @ORDERnPROGRESS 12 років тому

    ok, uhm. by bangs i meant, heavy bass, aggressive music, which it is. I didnt say the album was mind blowing or monumental, I just said it has complex lyricism. Not the most complex. just lyrical. And dope profile picture, The Cold Vein is classic

  • @mrDopeBear
    @mrDopeBear 13 років тому

    Phonte - Charity Starts At Home..... Album coming soon!!! Put it on your to do list! And Review!!

    • @kidusyared7395
      @kidusyared7395 4 роки тому

      Message from the future, that shit's gon be bomb

  • @Smkbig
    @Smkbig 13 років тому

    what's your opinion on whether a mc uses a pen/pad or rapping off the top of their head?
    is it cause they found their "style" or is it to show off their abilities.
    i brought it up because i think many rappers would be better if they quite the bullshit and actually take time to write.
    to apply it to a current rapper for example when Wiz stopped writing i think his lyrical ability went to shit.

  • @doc7114
    @doc7114 13 років тому

    Who was it that Myke named after El-P?

  • @datboycoot
    @datboycoot 13 років тому

    Wow it gets even more heated. Dayum.

  • @sbekele1
    @sbekele1 13 років тому

    @mykectown (cont.) in a more balanced radio world, guys like Drake would probably have a few songs you would consider listenable. Not that he's ill. I just give him brownie points for being semi original in his approach and being as honest with his rhymes as he could possibly be for someone at his level. For the record, your comments are the ones that stood out to me because I know EXACTLY where your coming from when it comes to most of this shit out.

  • @Tyzilla20
    @Tyzilla20 13 років тому

    review casey veggies album when it re-releases? also review domo genesis's under the influence when it drops. both 9/20

  • @yugang08
    @yugang08 13 років тому

    @mykectown now i know as well as you do that black thought is LIGHT YEARS ahead of drake lyrically but that probably wont mean shit to him cause i get the feeling he never really bumped a roots album in his life. Also, gotta huge props for bringing up lines from 75 bars, probably one of the best example of a dope rap record w/ each line ending w/ the word nigga haha

  • @sbekele1
    @sbekele1 13 років тому

    @mykectown no. I completely feel where u're coming from. My bad for coming off on some "you should like Drake" shit. My 1st response (overreaction?) was more towards what seemed like a very angry rebuke of what I consider a relatively harmless artist when it comes to offending one's intelligence. In that regard, he and Waka don't compare IMO. If someone likes Waka, I prejudge them with nothing else to go on lol. I don't necessarily do that with Drake. For me, there's a delineation btwn the two.

  • @TheWorldIsYours4Life
    @TheWorldIsYours4Life 13 років тому

    The Next Review from DEHH aBOUT big name rapper Album will be, J Cole Debut Album. I think he dropping it in sept.

  • @mykectown
    @mykectown 13 років тому

    @DavionIsAKoolAssNerd Gotta give credit...that was actually Feefo's point. But thanks, regardless, bro!

  • @igotacos64
    @igotacos64 13 років тому

    Thats y i fuckin flip out when prople say somethings "real hip hop" i never got that term

  • @haroo86
    @haroo86 11 років тому +1

    My bad**using my phone to write this comment, it keeps posting before I write out my complete opinion,. But going back to what i said, in my opinion the reason why I think the younger generation doesn't respect the older generation is because, they yet to mature and understand everything from hip hop to everything around them, for example, in one of the other DEHH videos, I think it might of been Mike C said that, you give a teenager start of there teen to late teen-who

  • @haroo86
    @haroo86 11 років тому

    rich kid because its what they see and hear. Using that as an example, and going to what mikes 2 younger cousins are saying, the younger generation yet to understand and appreciate the music that mike or kings, beezy, feefoo older type of hip hop(hope this makes sense lol , it sucks writing out a comment on a IPhone)

  • @v16bt
    @v16bt 12 років тому

    Payozo - From Time To Time

  • @WLPowell
    @WLPowell 13 років тому

    Listen to Blu and Exile "below the heavens" then anything by drake and you'll understand what mike was saying.

  • @222Sucram
    @222Sucram 13 років тому

    Myke who is better, lil B or drake?

  • @mykectown
    @mykectown 13 років тому

    @AJInstrumental Hahahahaha! That was good!

  • @ORDERnPROGRESS
    @ORDERnPROGRESS 13 років тому

    @Eziokilla9595 I agree, he definitely needs to tone that down. And I can't say that I don't prefer his voice on VBD and The Psycho-Social LP. I miss his mystical verses when he was Ikon.

  • @xJBx72x
    @xJBx72x 11 років тому

    Everyone else is talking about Drake, I'll give my two cents. I like his music because it sounds good, and (usually) I can listen to it and just relax. He (for the most part) does not have good lyrical content, but I think that a lot of it sounds good, and that's good enough for me. My biggest problem with his music is when he shows up on some terrible made-for-radio track (Pop That, Love Me, etc.). I think most of the solo stuff is fine.

  • @mykectown
    @mykectown 13 років тому

    @GamingBender Why is it such a big deal that I don't like Drake? I don't get it. I'm not telling anyone not to listen to him. I've heard enough Drake to know I'm not a fan of his style, his lyrics or his delivery. If other people like him, then that's great. A lot of people hate my favorite rappers and that's fine.

  • @mykectown
    @mykectown 13 років тому +1

    @qlatrell So Roots is backpack hip hop, too? OK, I give up. You people and your labels. Haha! Anyway, no, saying "Drake can't rap" isn't simply a blanket statement...it's an opinion. I clearly said in the video I don't care about his content. I simply don't like his style, flow or rhymes. It's not that deep! He doesn't have to be conscious. He can talk about ant hills all day. Just do it well. Why are people so concerned with me not liking Drake? This is so weird.

  • @Adrianology101
    @Adrianology101 13 років тому

    The industry pushes simple, catchy, and nightclub-friendly rap because its accessible and easy to digest like fast food (to carry on C-Town's food analogy). Its much easier to market and sell than "healthier" complex rap which makes u think more than "feel" and requires more effort to listen to. Money is influencing too much of what the youth hears.
    We need more diversity. We need a more balanced hip hop diet.

  • @Jessery
    @Jessery 2 роки тому

    Not knowing Kid n Play hurts me to my bones.

  • @yugang08
    @yugang08 13 років тому

    @mykectown me personally, sure myke, i like and appreciate your insight on hip hop & rap artists but that doesnt mean u & me gotta agree on everything nor does it mean we gotta like the same things. I, unlike some folks here, respect everything u say even if i dont agree. Well thats all i gotta say. My apologies in advance if u found my rambling of 4 comments to be completely un-necessary lol

  • @SpaceyNYC
    @SpaceyNYC 13 років тому

    but the new generation is more open minded to more different varieties music because of the internet and the limitless free music out there

  • @Sydney1Em
    @Sydney1Em 13 років тому

    I watched De Niro at the back...

  • @SpaceyNYC
    @SpaceyNYC 13 років тому

    @TheSnoozeFox Drake is VERY introspective listen to "The Resistance". dude can rap.

  • @SpaceyNYC
    @SpaceyNYC 13 років тому

    @nonserviamreviews I really meant hes one of the best as far as mainstream goes

  • @navebucketdude
    @navebucketdude 13 років тому

    Big L R.I.P love his work.

  • @TheTroubleMaka
    @TheTroubleMaka 13 років тому

    Feefo is so right. There is a place in hip hop for everything. Everyone has different opinions. Do not try to change peoples opinions. Listen to what the fuck you wanna listen to. Just because you like hip hop doesnt mean you have to be a hardcore hip hop nerd and listen to all sorts of crazy shit. You listen to what you want. If you wanna be a hardcore fan then listen to all sorts of shit. If you wanna be a casual fan, listen to casual stuff. Theres a place for everything

  • @REKANIZREKORDZ
    @REKANIZREKORDZ 11 років тому

    its casino .. ONE OF MY FAVEZ

  • @FallenX100
    @FallenX100 9 років тому +5

    Drake's rapping = children's books Biggie and Tupac = Shakespeare
    he he This video enlightened me. I finally realize wtf is the deal with Drake. Stand back I'm about to pull some Aristotle shit. Both sides in the video agreed Drake's music is simple. Therefore, Drake = children's books (they have simple writing and people can enjoy some of those stories for some fucking reason I don't understand) but don't no English teacher or even a person with a brain is going to argue that those children's books are better literature than Shakespeare, Charles Dickens, Ernest Hemingway, F. Scott Fitzgerald, or Homer. So when people say Drake is the best rapper, they're pretty much saying that children's books are better than Dickens or Hemingway (these would be Tupac, Biggie, and other greats which are not lil wayne) just because they enjoyed the story in the children's books more. I don't know why people aren't honest in music like in literature.
    People study Shakespeare and other great literature for the quality of the writing so they can improve they're own writing skills. However, they're favorite story is going to be the one that they enjoyed the most which happens, in this case, to be a children's book. If you feel that I insulted Drake, then I hope that it makes you feel better that I actually went easy on him this time.

    • @mawiiile706
      @mawiiile706 9 років тому +1

      +FallenX100 lmao that wasn't some aristotle shit at all

    • @mrthatguyam
      @mrthatguyam 9 років тому +2

      +FallenX100 Not even close to Aristotle, not even stoic, however I agree completely. It's like the cinema these days as well. People say the Avengers is amazing while I'm sitting back watching Lawrence of Arabia.

    • @MrTatsubei
      @MrTatsubei 9 років тому +1

      +FallenX100 Tupac's rhymes were easy to understand and, compared to other lyricists, were quite simplistic as well. What does that mean?

    • @daeronvu5830
      @daeronvu5830 8 років тому +1

      +Chris Lockhart I don't think being simplistic is bad. Lacking reality, meaning and message is.

    • @MrTatsubei
      @MrTatsubei 8 років тому

      Daeron Vu My point exactly. Tell that to the op, that's what he's implying.

  • @TheSnoozeFox
    @TheSnoozeFox 13 років тому

    @sandrofilipee i second that motion!

  • @Pai001
    @Pai001 13 років тому

    @JW2K3 i know he's from toronto and i read your comment, but who cares where he is from and where you are from?

  • @breachthelevee
    @breachthelevee 13 років тому

    Dudes in the caps flip-flop like crazy, haha. It's cool though. I see what they're saying.

  • @WonderBreed
    @WonderBreed 13 років тому

    19:53 De Niro disapproves

  • @iDeviceMoDifications
    @iDeviceMoDifications 11 років тому

    Old school all day and I am 19.

  • @bensononyeugbo
    @bensononyeugbo 13 років тому

    drake does goes in on some level. ever since he been down with young money he watered down a bit but he still kills it. he's not a lyricist though but he aint a garbage rapper. good video

  • @Eziokilla9595
    @Eziokilla9595 13 років тому

    @ORDERnPROGRESS Thank God there is another person who agrees with me. I agree, MC's change over time. Em, Nas, Ice Cube, Jay-Z, and Xzibit are all overshadowed by their earlier/classic work. I'm also not taking issue with Canibus's early shit, like Rip the Jacker, but if you compare Melatonin Magik to Lyrical Law, I wouldn't be able to tell them apart. I agree, when Vinnie is on, he is FUCKING ON. But, more times than not, nowadays his music blends together. BTW, do you know who Vakill is?