SONY X90K VS THE LG C2! BATTLE OF LED VS OLED AT THE 4K MIDRANGE . (VALUE ELECTRONICS)
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2022
- Today's video is on the new Sony X90K vs the also New LGC2. it's a full array led vs and wrgb oled. Both TV'S sit in the mid range of their respective manufacturers 4K line up. I hope you enjoy and Thank you so much for watching!
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Thank you for watching everyone! One correction in the video is the price of the 65" C2 is $2,499 not $2,999.
Can you do the LG C2 vs Sony X95K Please
So, RXx90k, or TLC R646 GAMING 90& OF THE TIME.
The 75" x90k is now about $900-1000 cheaper than the C2...for my money the x90k is a way better value right now
Thanks for the video. Love Brian's passion for televisions
This video is the best l' ve seen so far to clearly view the differences oled and led tvs , blooming ,banding ,gradient all there . Wish for more tv comparisons with same test patterns
I've had the X90K for a few days now and honestly I'm quite happy with it. Obviously it's not an OLED, but for my particular use (an average of 10 hours a day...and I use several of those hours as a PC monitor) I don't think an OLED was what I needed...
On the other hand, minimally touching some settings, I don't see blooming except if you intentionally look for it very very carefully (something that doesn't make much sense) and watching TV in an absolutely really dark environment...
Detail in dark scenes, in my opinion, is better than it is in an OLED...at least on the C1 I tested, in wich I found that dark scenes tended to be too dark without much detail.
Colors are really natural and if you like more saturated colors, you can also get it by changing settings.
Brightness is also much more than enough for my taste and the sharpness of the image and that "almost" 3D effect that Sony gives it is quite nice.
I like the new remote control, since it is simpler and smaller than the previous one. By the way, it comes with 2 remote controls, one more "minimalist" and the other with more buttons, but also smaller than in previous years.
Great comment! Unfortunately it only comes with one remote here in the US. I'm so glad you are enjoying it
How's the blooming on sub-titles?
That's why I'm leaning towards X90K too. It's just because I would use this TV all day long + it's gonna most likely lose the price quickly since it's not hyped OLED, and you should be able to buy it in pretty reasonable price soon.
Your comment about blooming is spot on about so many TV "issues" in general. Blooming, imperfect blacks, DSE......most of these things you won't notice until a TV reviewer tells you you should notice it. Meanwhile they rave about OLED even though OLED's dimness/ABL is far more annoying to me than any of LCD's shortcomings.
Hows the blooming on subtitles?
@Brian, any idea how it should be with X95J ? Currently 75 is around 2200 also . I was waiting for X95K , but it is little bit disappointment for me and also price is high , but still LED is my proffered one for bright room and mostly daily watching. Thank you for you advice
Best video ever. It’s frustrating seeing all these 55” or 65” reviews without comparing them to what u can get at a larger size. I expect most people are sitting farther than 5 feet away from their TV. Thanks!
Feel OLED as a technology isn't just there yet if we are talking about a 5-10 year investment for the regular person or throughout the current console generation life cycle. I'll prob buy one in a few years once the tech gets polished to justify the price. But for now, Looks like I'll stick with getting the 90k for my ps5
Did you buy it? How do you like it? I’m going to buy a tv very soon. Costco has the C2 in 65” for $1599.99. May 7th it’ll go back up. Then it’ll drop again in June or July. Sony has the 65” x90k rn 4.17.23 @ $999.99.
Did you get the 90k?
My c1 got burn in after 3 years of heavy gaming. Replaced with a x90k, comparable picture with no fear of burn in but the viewing angles are a lot worse
@@proggz39 I wish I had the money this weekend. The Sam’s Club by me had a open box 77” C2. It was the display but had a 5 year warranty for 1949.99
i think endurance should also be discussed when it involves oled tvs because the prioces of oleds is not cheap. how long does usually oled tvs last? also how about burn in?
Great video Brian!!! Nice change up on the light in the room. Would be great if you would do the Samsung QN900B review.
Thank you Flow! I'm still waiting to get my hands on it my friend however I do know it's been crippled with updates
@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY Dam it Vincent!! 😂
Thanks for the video. Im right now in the middle of trying to make a decision on a 65" TV. At this time the X90K is $1k and the C2 is $1.7k. I was at first debating between the Sony A80K and the LG C2 since atm they are the same price. But saw the X90K on sale and after comparing the A80K and the X90K I decided I would be OK with the X90K but did like the LG C2's picture more than both Sony TVs. I think I can be happy saving $800 buying the X90K over the C2.
I think u made a good choice. U still happy with the x90?
Am I the only one that sees the C2 OLED screen as being unrealistically black? For example, that picture of the lion by the water looks so unrealistic and not true to what your eyes would actually see. And also the image of the sun going down at 4:50, it looks unrealistic because a sun setting is never going to look that dark on the horizon. Just my opinion. I think the Sony's colours look way better, much richer and truer to reality.
Can we please have a comparision of both in 55inch and see which one holds more value? Thanks.
We've always loved to have a high end led tv as our Living Room Work Horse everyday tv and High End OLED for bedroom and den. We bought the a80j 77inch for our den and X95K 75inch for our living room which we are loving especially the sound. We are thinking of replacing our 2019 LG E9 with the new 77inch C2. We saw it at Bestbuy and were blown away especially by the thinner Matrix boarder.
I still love my B9 :/ I have an x900H and X90K. I love all three but the X90K is the best
with no reference how do we know which one is more accurate? one bloom was blue on LG and Purple on the sony. the sony white is bloomed and washed out. then at 8 minutes the LG is in filmaker mode and the Sony is in custom with a bunch of junk turned on. contrast enhance etc ... i don't get these videos.... maybe they are useful to someone?
it seems, that I'm the only person, who detects for OLED fewer details, blurry particles and tinted colors, good to see in Explosions. If this video is "real" I like the x90k more, it's simply more natural and precise in color down to the smallest details... better contrast and black can not heal that for me. Maybe I'm totally wrong, but the OLED has (also often seen in other Previews) the wrong white balance, for example snow is blue or green, sky and skyscrapers are tinted, not simply mostly gray.
Hi Brian, great review as always my friend. I wanted to ask. I will be calibrating my TV professionally. Would the x90k look close to the oled after full calibration. I will also be doing gaming on a series X, how is the input lag. Thank you
I have a x90k and a c1, so the c1 decently looks a little better but honestly very comparable and hard to tell the difference when not side by side. Also the x90k doesn't need professional calibration if you use the custom picture setting. Sony already pre calibrates their flagships. Also input lag is minimal and 30fps games will look slightly better on an led due to not having instant pixel response like an oled
I am trying to decide between LG 83 OLED and sony x90k 85, for a home theater. Which one you will recommend?
great video Brian. I'm still hooked on OLED but I know where I came from with LED TV's.
The C2 looks awesome! This’s probably the best LG OLED panel I’ve see by far
The G2 is superior
I am looking at both of these in the 65" size. Since they are now 'last year", the pricing is less different than when you made your review. I can get the Sony for 1198.00 and the LG for 1599.00. SInce there is not enough difference in cost to sway my decision, which would you reccomend? I am not a big movie watcher and do not game at all. I do use wireless internet tv only. No cable if that would sway the decision. Thank you!!
I am checking every couple of days for an a90K review and got immediately excited when I misread the title lol. I'm intending the 42" to be my first Oled.
The c2’s biggest improvement over the c1 Is sustained sdr brightness. Lg is mastering the evo tech and it’s starting to make a difference. That transfers to hdr as well but it’s more noticeable in sdr. When the c2 drops around the mid year price point it’s gonna be a very nice value. Great video buddy!
Well said! Thank you for watching!
Is it just me or is there far more details on the X90K in some of the videos? Or is it the blooming? Great video, thanks for sharing 🙏
Awesome video! Exactly what I’m looking for as I’m trying to decide between the 77” C2 or the 85” x90k
I’m primarily interested in console gaming experience & my biggest worry, despite the reassurances, in the risk of burn in with the c2.
Do you have any opinion re: my conundrum? If not no worries. Again thank you!
I bought a 28in lg ultra gear gaming monitor to strictly game with on a office desk instead of gaming on my oled and because when u play games like cod there is so much stuff that doesn't move like mini map , amo counter etc eventually that will burn in. If I were u I would
buy the sony it has way better processers for upscaling and build quality is way better then my lg c1
Go with the x90k buddy! It was my preferred choice over the c2 and I never regretted it.
X90K for me be it for ambient lighting, scared of burn in, and for Sony's Audio and Video processing.
@@Rammer_Jammer
The 77in. It's excellent! It's the best tv I ever had. The operating system, picture and sound, the ergonomics of both tv and remote, aftercare, etc, are all of what you would expect from Sony: well thought out and top notch! Leaves LG, Samsung, etc in the dust! I never regretted my choice, and you won't either. If I had the space, I would probably have bought the 85in.
@@Rammer_Jammer
Great choice! I connected to the internet via cable and regarding the firmware, I updated when the tv indicated to update. All went smoothly.
I’m having a hard time deciding between these two. The c2 77” is $2000 aud more than the 85” x90k. Is the picture quality difference really worth the substantial jump in price for a smaller display size?
Excellent question! Yes and no. The C2 is better with all the benefits that oled provides especially contrast ratio however it cannot make up for that size difference. If you have enough room for the 85" X90K then I'd grab it
Great video Brian! I'm on the fence of buying the XR65X90K or the XR65A80K. I want to say It's a 70/30 split of mostly long gaming sessions on my PS5, and some TV and sports. The A80k is about $800 more then then x90k. What is your opinion on the 2 choices?? Mostly want a great gaming experience, and good hockey!! Hope to get a response!! 🙏
Hi REM! I'd typically give the edge to the a80k but Hockey is the Achilles heel of any oled as the white full field will cause it to dim. X90k is my choice
@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY thank you for the response 🙏 you just confirmed my pick for the x90k! Ha thank you!
@@rem8022 my pleasure! Please let me know how you Like it
from 19:00 the x90k had very little blooming, it’s a shame he didn’t show the previous clips with blooming again with dynamic contract med/off!
You get to see the difference between the two, value and performance. Not to mention how close LED is getting to OLED with blacks & little blooming. How close OLED is getting to brightness levels of the LED. And honestly I'm in between getting an OLED LG C2 and a X85K LED 42 inch for in my bedroom. Is the OLED worth it, when it's two to three times as much as the LED. This is what I'm trying to decide. I don't know if it's because of the camera or just me but I noticed there's more hues in the OLED but I see more dark/Shadow detail in LED. Honestly, that Sony looks amazing.
Idk how much disposable income you have but I wouldn't be spending that much more on the OLED. What about looking for last year's OLED models like the C1 etc?
Is it gonna be your main TV for watching movies etc? Or do you have a larger TV elsewhere, and this is just kind of a secondary option?
Yeah this convinced me to get the Sony x90k. Looks like a great tv and it’s $900 for 55 inch right now 👍
It's excellent! Thank you for watching
Great comparison Brian to incredible tvs
Great video Brian. I am torn between 65” A80J and 75” X90K. Price is similar in my country with X90K being slightly expensive. TV will be used mainly streaming shows/movies (Netflix etc) and occasional casual PS5 gaming.
Watching Distance from TV is 6-8’
Room is not that bright and I prefer to watch TV in darker environment.
Can you help me out in picking the right TV model?
Heyy, I assume you went ahead with your purchase. If so, which one did you go for?
@@baapkastyle Not yet, I am waiting for Dussehra/Diwali sale here in India. Will be going with 75" X90K.
@@vinaymohandimri1987 Good choice. I have the A80J and I think it's too dim.
@vinay planning to buy X90K...pls share your experience if you have already purchased. thanks!
I bought the x90k 65” with 5 year warranty for less money than the 65 lg c2.. I have noticed the Dolby audio is pretty on point from the tv as well as coming from my Samsung sound bar which is about 3 years old right now.. I find when I play ps5 I’m in game mode with Vrr enabled but if I want to watch movies I switch the tv to Dolby vision and it’s great. My brother has the c1 55 and he’s thinking about selling it and getting the x90k in the 65 due to lower price than the c2 and how well it actually looks in person.
Hi Brian - Great video. I am on the market for a living room TV used about 4hrs a day mostly for streaming and weekend night movies. I am considering between X90K 85 vs A80K 77. Which one do you recommend?
In that scenario I like the x90k for the size and peak brightness. The a80k can be and absolute mirror if you can't manage the light. The extra size is also incredibly immersive
@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY Thanks Brian. This is helpful.
Hi Brian. Couldn't deal with my Sony 900h anymore and bought the Samsung 65" QN95A for an amazing £1100 and got a close to perfect panel, I just can't get over the picture upgrade. Hope you're well and great video👍🏻
What was wrong with 900h
Samsung is booty
These were the two TVs that I've debated to get. There was one display/return of each in the store - the 65 C2 for $1250 and 75 X90K for $1050. C2 TV was the clear winner for picture quality but i went with the X90K because of the size i needed for my tv room.
I really like the LG C2. It’s has a great picture and a beautiful design.
Hi Brian, would you go with C2 or A80K mostly for watching TV. The C2 is about $250 cheaper right now here in Indonesia. Or perhaps a X90K is good enough? Thankyou
C2 for gaming heavy, 80k for movies.
@@nomadhomad3685 what about x90k?
This is the first time i am watching your video. Your content is amazing.
But what i am feeling is missing, Some movies from netflix ,UA-cam contents and Some live sports events. thats the deciding factor for me.
Hey Brian, great video my friend. If money was no object ....based totally on picking an everyday living room tv, which one would you choose? 🇬🇧
If money isn’t an issue for you , I’m gonna say C2 on that. But if $ wasn’t an issue for me, I might be looking at the a95k or S95b.
Put an oled and led next to eachother, 2 completely different panels and technology, then use the same settings on both?
Ofcourse it won't look the same, but ok i agree a good oled always looks better than any led tv, but think the sony managed pretty well here,
Sinse iv'e become abit allergic to oled coz i had a burn in on my screen,2017-18, i know the panels got better,but the problem still exists,they haven't been able to Solve the problem,but they have worked around the issue with movin pixels and tone down area where u might have a static picture wich u almost always have when gaming.rather have some blooming than the risk of burn in,image retention. As u might have seen on the oled,the snow was abit blue,
But Brian mentioned that early in the video,oled can b abit "blueish" unfortunantly it doesn't matter wich tv u look at, there's no such thing as a perfect tv,
All tv's got some issues, so u gotta compromise,pros n cons, wich works best for u,and how u gonna use the tv.
Hi Brian, thank you for the video. I've been looking forward to some detailed videos on the X90K. I'm looking to buy a new 65" Sony in the next couple of months. My 8 yr. old Bravia KDL-60W850B edge-lit died on me a couple of months ago and I've been immersing myself in TV tech video blogs ever since, to get up to speed with understanding all of the new tech. I have learned a lot from you and Stop the FOMO, B The Installer, Keep It Classy Tech. etc. My use case is predominantly cinema: new and classic films across many genres; from restored Criterion titles on bluray, blockbusters and epics to A24 indies on bluray/4K. With all of the recent price drops; the A80J, the X95J and now the X90K all seem to be in the same price range. I am hoping that you can give me a little advice? I am wondering if the X90K being the newest with the 2nd gen XR-1 processor (and with more dimming zones) can beat out last years X95J ? Very concerned about contrast. Also, I am very interested in the A80J, but I worry about bleed- in since I can listen to hours of Apple Music and am worried that the static cover-art-square in the center of the screen might create a bleed-in problem. What unit do you think might be the best of these three for a cinephile to purchase at this price range? I don't know if this is the correct forum to ask for advice, but I value your expertise and opinion very much. Thank you!
Only the best tvs can beat x95j, and I very much doubt a x90k would do it.
X95k is worse than x95j. Not sure about x90k. Dont expect x90k to be better than x95k. Sony can b overpriced but not stupid
@@anuzahyder7185 as you probably know, x95j is a premium TV, ie, PQ, build quality and to some degree better sound.
I think you get a better remote as well, so I definitely wouldn't buy this yrs step down over x95j.
X95j made a good impression on me when I first saw it.
Great question! For me if they are all the same size the a80j is far and away the best especially for cinema. It's excellent! The x95j is probably still a bit better especially in build quality. The a80j is the easy choice for me
@@TheKwod Thank you for your advice. I greatly appreciate it!
Hello dear, is it ok to spend around long time for gaming and watching movies everyday on new oled tv? Or it is just get risk to have burn in?
It's perfectly fine my friend. I use my oleds every day in the same fashion
Thanks for the video..... I should be picking up the X90K in a few weeks.
I have the X95OH in my living room now. I really enjoyed the TV and I have no complaints. However, it didn't have any 2.1 HDMI's (for some reason Sony didn't want to include that feature in this model in 2020). I didn't know that at the time.
So I'm going to trade it in for the X90K so I can get those HDMI inputs.
I just bought a PS5 for my kids (and myself) for Christmas.
You'll see the x90k vs c2 and qn90b this week my friend.
Good comparison, but it is better to use same size.
I’m sorry what size is the oled in the video
20k subscribers! Lets go B!!
Thank you so very much Esteban!
Thanks for your efforts. I just book my X90K.
Congratulations on your purchase. Thank you for watching
@chinmay I am also planning to buy X90K...appreciate if you could share your experience and is the blooming a big issue?
@@sanathsai1698 My experience with X90K is very good. I like to watch movies and browse internet content, so for my requirement this TV is pretty good. Booming is the issue (little bit) I agree. But really is it worth to pay so much extra money for OLED (?), it was almost 1.7 Lac more than X90K. My friend did experience screen burning issue on the contrary... One thing I can say with confidence now that X90K is pretty good value for money. Hope this helps.
Sony X90k is excellent look at highlights 👌
In this video, the C2 has more saturated color than X90K. Are in real life like this too?
Yes it looks that way in person as well however you can enable live color on the x90k to match it's saturation. Thank you for watching
LCD's have improved a lot but you can see in these side by side with OLED's it's still lacking that 3D pop you get with the OLED contrast. Makes the image looker sharper and more life like. I'll stick with OLED and perhaps QD OLED once sizers are bigger. Thanks Brian
true, on the lg e6 it was great 3d. but they leave it, so they can make the oleds brighter now
The Sony Z9J (2021 85 inch flagship LED) has the 3D pop that you're looking for but nobody covers that TV because it's the most expensive. The 2022 85 inch sony Z9K with the new QD LED technology is going to blow every TV out of the water.
@@ScruffyWarlord mwa no they dont. its still a led tv with blooming, and not those deep blacks like the oled with self lightning pixels
@@janduller4722 you have never witnessed it in person. its a sight to behold simply because it upscales all the 4k hdr content to 8k over 32 million pixels making the entire image look 3D in nature. The level of detail on those TVs makes the oleds look like washed out dimmed trash.
@@ScruffyWarlord no its not. if you compare it to regular oleds yes. i have seen it here in the dutch store. its nice.but samsung s95b is the tv of the year mate. accept it. highest reviewed tv ever
Thanks for the video Brian. Great job.
The difference in black level is astounding
@brian do you recommended me the samsung s95b over the lg c2? and in the review from caleb denison, he said that low bit content on the s95b on youtube looking shit, and in gamemode its to oversaturated. is that fix now, what`s youre experience with it?
I specifically bought s95b for gaming. It’s next level. Oversaturated doesnt matter. It looks great. If u want less color, obviously u can lower color n turn down brightness. Check tech with kg - he has the settings for it
Secondly the game motion plus is really helpful. Smoothens 30 fps content. Obviously it wont be 60 but pretty good. I have lg c1 as well n game motion really helps.
The low bit content im not sure. Samsung’s Upscaling has improved a lot this year
Hi Jan! At launch the S95B was truly a big jump . It's been updated down a bit but is still excellent especially in HDR. Game mode looks amazing and you can turn down the saturation but it looks amazing as is. As far as low bit rate content ( sub 1080p) you have to ask yourself how much do you really watch?
Thanks for youre reply mate. Love your`e content. And love the usa also! Bin there so many times. But you mean, if you have a shit internetconnection then 1080p content streaming is shit? My Internet is great, i have 500Mbit connection. But the s95b is mindblowing compare to my lg cx?@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY
@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY Is Processing on the s95b on the same level like the lg g2?and dolby vision is not a miss? In dolby vision you missing mostly of time details, its to dim for me
@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY s95b will blow the cx away? Or not?
How about the processing off the s95b? is that on the same level as the lg g2 oled?
Well the obvious question is this. I'm watching this comparison on my 1080p Sony KDL-40Z5800 LED that I wish to upgrade to 4K HDR. I can see the difference between the two and the C2 looks better. But wait a minute. I'm seeing the better C2 quality on my old Z5800 LED. Surely the latest X90K has better image quality than my Z5800. I would be happy with the C2 quality shown here on a X90K. I get the impression the video camera is raising the brightness to make the darker C2 look normal which is then blowing out the X90K. Shoot another video set to make the X90K look normal and the C2 will look way too dark with crunched blacks. It's all relative. Inky blacks are artificial. Very few things are 100% black in nature due to bounce light, so I have never been all in on plasma or OLED inky blacks.
C2 for the win 🏆 love my C2 everything you play on it gaming movies sports looks amazing 🤤
normally i go for the c2. i had c8, cx, but this year lg no qd oled. so i go for the samsung s95b, its on another level then c2 and g2!
Hi thanks for the video which one would you recommend if bother are the same price want to watch movies and later will get a ps5
I favor the C2 as it simply has more functionality. More hdmi2.1 ports and more gaming options. Hope this helps and thank you for watching.
@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY thank you so much took the wife we saw them today we bought the c2 looks amazing i was kind of hesitant because i saw people talking about something called abl or something the dimming of the picture but hopefully its not that noticeable i appreciate your time.
Congratulations on your purchase my friend. Don't worry about ABSL. It's blown way out of proportion. Thank you so much for watching
And do you want burn on if you play games for hours on end
Make video on lg c3 oled vs Sony x90l led
What picture mode on X90K??
It's in Cinema most of the vid. Thank you for watching
Tried to use a 65" S95B for all viewing in my house, including mostly Comcast TV HD at 1080P but it was not worth it...Movies, TV discs, UA-cam videos and video games were great but I watch normal TV more and I could not stand the dim brightness in SD mode. Comcast cable isn't in HDR so I don't get that extra brightness either...just 200 nits...but the samsung was also very juddery on cable no matter what I did so I returned it but when displaying SDR content, the X90K is miles better cause you need that brightness otherwise in normal cable viewing you can't see the picture and there's nothing you can do about it. I have a QN90B right now but can't see me paying $620 more for it compared to the X90K for regular TV viewing so I'm exchanging it for a 65" X90K for my living room. I do have plans to put the saved money towards a nice 55" oled in my backroom for strictly gaming and movies to also keep static images from cable off the oled...
Thank you
This was a fantastic comparison, thank you!😄 I'm upgrading from a 50" 2012 Panasonic GT50 plasma and I'm weighing up between a larger LCD or smaller OLED, so this was really useful!
I want to go minimum 65", and potentially 75". Getting a decent oled, even the C1, still just seems too expensive at those larger sizes. So I think the X90K is the way to go. Do you think the X90K warrants the higher cost over the X90J?
I was impressed with the X90K here. In HDR it traded blows with the OLED in terms of brightness, with blooming being decently well handled. The OLED was still better overall though. In SDR, the X90K definitely "popped" more.
You mentioned that the X90K sometimes gets "too bright", where it brightens the entire screen too much rather than affecting just specular highlights. Do you think this is something that could be fixed (to some extent) with calibration or not something that is too much of a problem?
i think the samsung s95b is the best tv of 2022? isn`t it brian? when a fair comparison between the s95b and the c2? do you recommended me the s95b over the c2? s95b is another level? because the wide color gamut its almost perfect. the colors are so great!
@@janduller4722 bro i made the comparison with c2 n s95 is noticeably better. EspeciAlly when u bring gaming into equation, s95b is the tv to get. C1 wud be the best value if u dont wanna spend much
@@anuzahyder7185 ok but image processing is not on level like g2?
I am doing the exact same upgrade, what did you end un getting and how was it?
So which one is better a year later?
I would still favor the C2 at the same size for feature set and contrast ratio . The only way I choose the X90K is if it's larger. Hope this helps and thank you for watching
Brian, why did you cover the C2 stand?
My camera was catching light off of it that wasn't visible in person
@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY glad to hear that because my C2 is on the way :D
I got the X90K around the start of the world cup and all i can say is WOW. You guys "TV reviewers" are so picky when looking at TVs but to us, normal viewers and especially those among us who live watching sports and movies mostly in HD format from cable or home satellite, this Sony exceeds all my expectations. The blooming you're talking about shown in special scenes is something we don't see in day to day content, not even in subtitles. I don't know how Sony do that, but when my cousin "LG fan" came to watch a match with me, he asked if the content is 4K, I said no, his jaw was dropped. Love this X90K.
Congratulations on your purchase! You are not wrong about us as reviewers but please keep in mind that we are very critically viewing these tvs. I was one of the few that really liked the X90k. Thank you for watching
@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY i actually like how critical you get and this is necessary in my opinion. When you guys say this is is OK or good that means it's so good for most of us especially when we're not comparing TVs side by side. I forgot to mention that I had the A95K on order but I could not get one and the dealer told me not before 2 months that he may get one for me so he asked me to take the 90K and enjoy there world cup while he can see if an A95K can be obtained. I'm sure that the A95K will blow my mind too but with the size difference of the 90K "75" I think the bigger size is more impactful than the extra image perfection. thanks always for your reviews.
I feel whites on the LG look blue but on Sony look normal. I really do like the C2 but can't justify the price difference when X90K still does a hell of a job for a fair price.
I have an Epson 5050 UB projector. I tried the C2 and it was just too tiny compared to a 200 inch screen. so I sent it packing. I kept the Sony 85 because it was bigger and had a bigger impact. When you are used to a giant screen it really does not matter how good the image is compared to the image size because you feel you are INSIDE of the movie or video game. A life size image with life size sound and multiple subwoofers is the ONLY way to go. Godzilla is HUGE and measured in feet and yards...not measured in tiny inches. The Sony is behind my motorized 200 inch projection screen...and I use it for casual tv and for movies too. Beautiful Sony color! But nowhere near the life size massive image impact of the Epson.
Excellent comment! Immersion is very hard to beat my friend. I'm in the heavyweight division as well and while the pixel density of much smaller tv's 6 a sharper image it is in no way worth the loss in size. Thank you for watching
@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY Keep up the great work!
I purchased X90K 55 inches Last Sunday @t 999 USD
X90J from 2021 or X90K? What's the improvments?
I'm looking into both atm. Really waiting for the Rtings review to come out (should be out in 2-3 days at the most). From what I gather the K version has double the dimming zones and I believe gets brighter.
Wait for the 2022 Sony Z9K 85 inch using the new QD LED. It upscales everything to 8k. Yes i know there is no 8k content but the point is it upscales the 4k HDR to 32 million pixels 8k since it has way more detail to work with and the detail is mind blowing. It actually makes everything look 3d. Blows any OLED out of the wate.
@@AndySomething I see..more double zones gets brighter yes but for my personal use im ok with 800 nits maximum peak brightness on my DIMMLY lit room besides that, X90J is cheaper compared with X90K. ..thank you for your answer 😉👍
@@nunolemos9112 lol I'm thinking the same. I'm upgrading from a 10 year old plasma that no word of a lie puts out like 50-100 nits lmao
@@AndySomething Hehehe right, also come from LG Nano Cell TV but LG Nano models all had bad HDR implementation with very low contrast ratio and medíocre blacks so my option will be Sony X90J ✌️
Planning to get C2, but afraid of burn in, as my tv would be connected with pc, i watch twitch few hours a day which is static image, so dno if it would leave burn in for me.
Definitely will overtime but the technology has got better overtime
@@vybo8921 nah burn in ain’t like it used to be
Having the X90K or any LCD TV in standard picture preset is always gonna look bad I have the X90K and my TV looks much better than what I'm seeing in this video and I use custom for movies and TV shows and game mode for gaming obviously and also in cinema mode turn off Adv. Contrast enhancer because it cause more blooming which is why u had so much blooming in standard and cinema and also blowout highlights
What ever you do, don't put an oled next to it :)
@@gaurd3 i rarely see any blooming because I turned off all the setting that causes blooming and blowout highlights when I 1st set it up
hi care to share your video setting on x90k?
@@jayreyes1000
Cinema
Light senor off
Brightness 15-35/ max in HDR
Contrast 90
Gamma 0
HDR tone map off SDR/ gradation HDR
Black level 50
Black adjust off
Adv. Contrast enhancer off
Auto local dimming medium
Peak luminance off/ high for HDR
Color 50
Hue 0
Color temperature expert 1
Live color off
Sharpness 50
Reality creation off, 10 or auto
Random noise reduction off
Digital noise reduction off
Smooth gradation low
Motion flow auto
HDR mode auto
Hdmi video range
Color space auto
Adv color adjustment don't touch it
@@jayshine2742 ok thanks so much on this..
so you prefer cinema than custom setting?
for the dolby vision? dolby vision bright or dark?
do you use netflix calibrated mode when watching netflix?
I see less reflections on the c2 , colors are better on the x90k due to warmer look ,, but blooming is visible making c2 better overall ,,, I am shocked that the different is not big but iam not forgotten that this is youtube _ you need to be there to give attention to things youtube can't handle ( like realism of image ) ; all in all I think if you don't prefer a technique then difference of image quality alone difinetly didn't worth it .
I have a c1 55 and they say you can't see that blue in person on lg oled but to be real you can easily can. Snow really be like that on the c1
@@alanclark9000 I didn't believe them , that's why iam holding to rgp oled .
@@alanclark9000 do u have it in a cool color temp setting? Thats usually when whites are blue
@@JtotheM no and you wanna be set to 2 or 40 for warmth. Lg push blue so bad on 50 the blues look green. Tv a pian in the ass on different sources because on one source tv looks great but you can watch something else with the same settings and be like damn this TV needs a pro cailbrater
I'm still waiting for the Z9K, lota money but if it's better and bigger than my set now might be worth it to me, otherwise stay with what I have.
Why not get z9j at a discount?
Traditional FALD done well is still epic.
@@TheKwod because the new 2022.85 inch Z9K will have the new QD LED technology and its going to blow every other tv out of the water this year.
@@TheKwod I have one of the original TCL 65 825 mini led sets and I love the way it looks. I don't see blooming at all unless I'm way off angle so I want to see if besides being bigger will the Z9K be a lot brighter with better color than what I have now.
I just came into some decent toy money and I doubt the Z9J would be a major upgrade from what I have now. If I didn't have the money to consider the upgrade I'd happily stick with what I have. Mini led when it's done right can be really awesome looking.
I have an X90K..Great TV and it will last longer than an OLED. 🤷♂️
Glad you are enjoying it my friend! Thank you for watching!
It's not fair comparison because we all know as the screen gets bigger the picture loses crispness.
I would like to see you making a video comparing c2 and x90 but same size screen then we the viewers can decide
Actually it Is fair as it's real world. Also the X90K is significantly cheaper meaning in terms of cost it does compare. I have the sizes that are available to me. Is it perfect? Ofcourse not. Thank you so much for your feedback and for watching the video and channel
I just picked up the 65 s95b , I was little hesitant because I’m hdr brightness nerd lol . But omg coming from qn90a in a basement room in filmmaker mode the new Samsung qd oled is insane hdr is so good . And I’ve owned the a90j and c1 and sold them , c1 wasn’t bright enough for me and terrible black crush and a90j sucked for gaming was amazing for movies . But the Samsung is amazing for gaming and movies right now mini led is dead to me after this didn’t think I would ever say that lol .
It’s all about having the highlights at the right places.. thats what i see the new samsung tvs are doing. The processor is really improved. Still disappointed with qn800b 8k - too much blooming. No tv beats s95b atm
X95k turned out to be really disappointing.l as well ..V good brightness but so much blooming. It’s almost nanocell like
Just ordered a 75" x90k for $1000 from walmart
The C2 has very blue whites. Not sure why you didn’t mention that. Unless this is a slanted review.
The difference is stark. LCD will forever be LCD. Black will never be black and there will always be blooming.
Now do the same test with all the lights on and windows open.
Put those two TVs in a well-lit room and my guess is the LED will look miles better then the OLED
I have my friend and you'll see that video this week. Thank you for watching
@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY I have heard the OLED's are definitely brighter then they used to be, but when I see them side by side on the showroom floor the LED's still seem to out perform on the brightness.
I feel as though the QLED's are the answer to help the OLED's kick up the brightness
@Retro Dad you'll see and then you can be the judge my friend. Reflection handling also plays a big part in this as well.
The C2 is of course the better tv. But the price for a smaller TV isn't good to me. The X90k 75" is the tv I bought. On it's own it's a very a good tv. I would love to have an OLED tv. Just too expensive.
Understandable my friend. Thank you for watching
I appreciate the work. But why did we not see even one touch of decent blue sky from the Sony X90K? It's really hard to believe any TV could so poorly represent colour. I've seen the x90K 65" in stores and the colours are great. Why so bad here?
The cameras can push certain colors and what you see in person should look better and more life like . UA-cams compression doesn't help either. Thank you for watching
Yeah the tv x90k is awesome and so lively while watching it in the stores, compared to this .
I got an 85” X90K for 2,000$
Great video my brother as always. LED is dead to me and has been since I parted with my excellent X900E and got my LG B10 then moved onto my even more excellent C1. I wont ever go back to LED. The X90K looks good though but I think the C2 won this battle.
no shit the c2 is almost double the price of x90k
I own like I’ve mentioned a 65” Panasonic GZ1000. I must share that my set looks as great slightly better than the A90J masters series Sony!
I played pacific rim 2 on the A90J/X95K (65”) side by side and the miniLed was imo a better image. The oled isn’t bright enough. That’s why my Panasonic is an amazing oled.
A 2k low brightness panel looks better than a 4k higher brightness panel?
Brian, why is the X90K blooming WAY more in this video than your initial X90K video??
In the initial vid it was alone which is always a challenge when doing direct comparisons. It also took an update since I first filmed it. It's still good for the price.
Honestly, it works perfect now. There is a bit of blooming before algorithm adjusts to stop blooming. but there is almost no details loss compared to oled which is important. All other brands just shut the dimming zones to arrest blooming with a huge loss of details. Most people don't understand this.
i prefer sony colors by far… so far i prefer oled just for full black zones and no blooming…. but overall i prefer high end led tv today
c2 42inch????
ua-cam.com/video/vVLe6TA10IQ/v-deo.html here you go
dont own either, but for some reason the 90k imo is nicer. too bright on the other ones imo
The X90k has a brightness and Vibrancy that is noticeable my friend. Thank you so much for watching
The color on the c2 just looks so much better makes the Sony look washed out
Thank you for watching
There is no sense in watching such TV in total darkness. Some ambient light makes miracles
I would smile with xk90k in bright room rather then cry with a poor oled which struggles in bright room
X90k vs lg a2? 😢
The results would be similar in terms of picture quality and contrast ratio. They are both very good, but I'd slightly favor the x90k . Thank you for watching!
you should have exposed the image to match the brighter led tv, image on the Sony is overexposed and gives the idea that the image is much worse specially the blacks and blooming...
I'll try better next time. Thanks for watching
I like the Sony
Compare TV better on movies and games. No one watches the demo at home. And it would be nice to compare upscaling from 1080p to 4K.
Sony for life bought the C2 had to take it to Best Buy and get a replacement twice came defective LG said panels issues I was like screw that I return it and got me the Sony and made the right choice and cheaper
c2 one love
Most definitely!
Hi Brian, thank you for putting value into debate, i'm Sony fan, but it can't simply compete with oled beautiful picture
I would pick smaller oled, but for size preference, x90k remain a solid option
Smaller oled can be silly though as a 65in destroys the best 55in with epic immersion.
If you're into 2k/4k, anything smaller than 65 is silly.
75in also introduces small picture theatre effect with 2.35 movies, 65 doesn't.
@@TheKwod for that reason i still targeting an 85" mid rang led rather than 65" premium oled
@@MM-Official make various reviews confirm what you want and you should be happy.
The numpties are making many TV shows in 2.35 as well.
All depends on how far u r sitting from ur tv. I have 85 65 n 55. U know which one looks best? The 55” because it’s qd oled.
@@anuzahyder7185 do you think i will not have a Fomo for 85" if i'm sitting far for about 6 or 7 feets?
LG TV is the best in the world 👍
Technically….you’ll see the C2 in “eco/APS” mode OOTB upon boot up, in SDR, with energy saving on. HDR typically defaults to Standard I believe, however, with energy savings still on. I kinda get why they do this, but it really turns me off seeing a OLED being even dimmer with energy savings on, and a cold as ice color temp. I wish LG made it easier for average consumers to set up their set correctly, as it can become a bit convoluted, with all the settings and options.
For me, it’s not a big deal, as I understand settings, and how to calibrate. I love this kinda stuff. But for the average Joe, they might really be turned off at first lol. They might be coming from a decently accurate TV, and wonder wth at first 😅
Sorry, I just had to be a smart ass lol. Btw, I’m still in awe of my C2, spending a whole year with is, after having a pretty bad experience with the CX. Didn’t plan on keeping the C2…but it just was love at first sight, and surprised me. LG fixed so many of the little issues and quirks, that turned me off on the CX. The improvements were bigger than I was expecting, and the brightness bump is more than noticeable. LG really focused on color too. The CX could look really diluted and under saturated in bright highlights. The C2, and its different dynamic tone mapping approach, and new processor, is a lot more highlight focused, was amazing to see too. The CX lifted the entire scene, including the black level, mid tones, everything…The C2 doesn’t do this. It always looks organically saturated.
Btw..you said “you can calibrate the sets down to look the same”. The point of a calibration is not to make a set dim and dull, or identical. Tho, if they’re good sets, they should look similar. Calibration is done to maximize the TV’s potential, not nerf it. It’s to create a profile, to understand the limits of said technology, and maximize the tech to it fullest potential. It’s to set it up properly for the ambient conditions it is in too, and to create multiple viewing modes, for different scenarios. It’s to set a baseline, which follows the standards said content was graded to….and then you can add things you might subjectively like, on top. It really bothers me that so many people have this notion that calibration is dimming and making the picture dull. If that’s the case, then the calibration was done poorly. Or the set can’t replicate the standards. (Like those fake HDR TV’s that can only hit 200 nits peak….so just to say it again, a calibration should improve the set, not hurt it.
I mean you can still watch a set that has a proper D65 white point, has proper color tracking, gamma, etc, and boost things like luminance, or EOTF, to fit your surroundings…for instance, using DTM in a bright room, or just bc you like DTM (I do on the C2). Or using DoVi bright, vs dark. There’s always compromises tho when deviating. I just don’t get the notion that a calibrated set is dim or dull….it’s a misnomer if I’ve ever seen one.
Say you had a 4,000 nit Pulsar, or a BVM HX310 that does 1,000 nits full field, and it was calibrated to follow the standards…like PQ…would you consider that set dull and dim, despite the amazing capabilities of those panels, and them being calibrated to standards? I highly doubt it….I know they don’t look dim and dull to me. Quite the contrary.
I love ya Brian! So don’t take anything I’m saying in a bad way. I’m just putting my two cents out there, and trying to help ppl understand.