Why "Watch Guys" Hate MVMT, Daniel Wellington, 5th Watches and others...
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Love it. Your best video yet.
Im sure you've seen this. But in case you havent:
[Guide] How to create a unique and successful minimalist watch brand:
imgur.com/a/6CNO8
It's pretty funny (and true).
This is great! Will link to as additional resource :-)
don't think the minimalistic trend will survive long enough to nurture a watch company
it's so sad that's true. People put 200$ dollars on any fkin sht they see on instagram by an influencer. Daniel wellington and those brands are the beats by dre of the watch world. We don't care anymore if what we buy is rubish or worth anything, and we have all the info in our hand to take a quick look on how good or bad is that item.
kokakoliah that's fair, it's a cheap watch, cheap price, makes sense to me
Hilarious guide. Such a lucrative industry right now to cheat unaware youths into buying minimalist watches.
Mmm, totally agree. I am so fed up with all the Kickstarter campains with slogans like "we couldn't find the watch we wanted, so we made it."
... and how they're all "disrupting the swiss luxury watch industry"
Because all the people that bought Omega and Rolex yesterday are now crashing the internet in need for purchasing this one and only chinese watch, build for 1 dollar in some lone backyard of shanghai...
That would be a fucking dumb slogan if anyone read it carefully. We... so it mean themselves is a subjective not for other.
Don't forget "remove the middleman" haha
actually there are some seriously well build and nicely build watches, auto and quartz, in kickstarter, a lot of bulshit too, but many of these brands is small startups of real watch people assembling watches in a small place, hiring professional people from real watchmakers, not buying 1000 pieces of crap from china and selling them to an inteligence offensive price.
Basically all the watches that are promoted by AlphaM and Teaching Men's fashion
Yes, they're the ones coughing up the marketing money!
Yes, and they spend that money on a Rolex Submariner, IWC Portuguese or Breitling Chronomat, if they haven't already. Beware of any UA-cam marketing. It feeds on the feeble.
Hose from Teaching Men's Fashion do have some nice Rolex himself but since his video is sponsored he gotta make them look good.
Both Aaron and José own actual Rolex and several other swiss-made or japanese watches
they make the money to buy real watches by selling their followers pieces of shit.
I like have mvmt claims they cut out the middleman, when the truth is that they ARE the middleman.
They did cut the middlemen, in this case the watchmakers.
@david s they don't put anything! They order the watches to be made with that logo from ali. They don't even have them physically just dropshipp directly from China.
They cut out the AD and their snobby attitudes.
watch guy here... the other day my friend received a complement on his mvmt watch from a lady, while I was wearing a speedy pro. So most can't tell the difference of a great watch vs fashion watch. I find 2 types of people in the high end of the watch game... people who want to show theyre rich and people who appreciate the craft and history. If your not one of those people get whatever you want.
+Boera Neth agreed. Well said.
Sounds like you’re jelly my nigga
Hahahaha
I actually wanted a daniel Wellington or mvmt but never got one. I realized how cheaply they were made and started to hate them. I don't judge people that wear them but I know that they are definitely not knowledgeable in watches. I now have an automatic seiko 5 and orient bambino
Mason Atkinson good decision!! Orient and Seiko are good options at a similar price point
You've never had one but you realize how cheaply they were made & hate them? I wear one & if you sat & had a conversation with me you would know that I do know & love many brands but at $100 the MVMT watches are the best in my opinion. They look gorgeous & they get noticed.
Tracy Stephens sure they look nice but I talked to some guy on Instagram who started his own brand. He would give me the best prices and offered me an mvmt voyager for $14 with no logo. This alone let's me know how cheap it is to make these. You can wear what you want, but I personally would go with a seiko if you're going to spend over 100 on a mvmt
Tracy Stephens I just really don't like the fact how much they mark them up and people still buy them. My automatic seiko should still be running for another 20 years and your mvmt, if you decide to still have it, will have gone through around 8-10 batteries
Mason Atkinson You make this claim based on what? I haven't seen a Seiko that I think is stunning. I like a watch to look simple & sweet. I've found that in MVMT. I think Omega & Rolex make stunning watches but I'm too active to justify that. $100 for the looks of MVMT is spot on. You can wear your watch for 20 yrs & for that entire time my wrist will 9 out of 10 times get more head turns. If a $100 watch that looks beautiful lasts me 2yrs then I'm happy.
I don't mind certain companies that use this method, especially if the watch is actually well designed.
However, companies that put the ridiculous "this is a luxury watch. we cut out the middle men and that's why it doesn't cost 1000 dollars" are repulsive.
teyzfootball those types are fucking ridiculous
Can you please explain why they are repulsive? I just can't see anything wrong about that.
A 1,000USD watch has a level of engineering and quality these things don't. These are no different than 40USD WalMart watches being sold to unsuspecting suckers for 5X their actual worth. Repulsive and dishonest.
Because if you buy a proper watch for 1000 dollars, you'll also get some craftsmanship (unless you go for fashion brands perhaps). You'll get an automatic movement, and one that is well crafted. Watch the videos by Watchfinder & Co. to get a sense of it. I'm not a big fan of the type of watches that Watchfinder likes to talk about, but it gives you a sense of what went into them, and it's really well produced. There's also a video where they compare a 4000 dollar with a 70000 dollar watch (or something like that), and you can actually see and understand why one of them is worth 20 times as much. It's in the details, the way each component, visible or not, is polished to perfection. How complicated solutions are created and made just to make the seconds move a bit smoother, to make the jump of the minute hand crisper.
For a bit more than 1000 you can get an entry level NOMOS watch, which follows the Bauhaus style just like many of these new brands, but has some heritage to it, and is made in Germany. It uses a manual watch movement and is well crafted (and better designed IMHO). It uses higher quality materials. DW et al. don't do any of these. Their claim to offer the same kind of watch and quality is just false.
Agreed, as long as they don't lie about what it is, i'll gladly buy a cheap watch. It's a 10$ ebay watch. Just admit it and i'll consider buying it just because it looks good.
I consider myself a watch guy. Don't have any high-end pieces but I'm loving my Seiko SARB017. The thing is luxury watches is like any other luxury consumption. You'll get the people who only buys it because it's expensive, but you'll also have the people who appriciate the craftsmanship behind the watches. If you want a watch for only the purpose of telling time, then yes a quartz watch is much more reasonable to get. But for me it's the engineering behind it that captivated me. Take an perpetual calendar watch. It will tell you the time, moon phase, year, day and date and it will account for if it's a leap year and still be accurate. All this with the help of a spring and some cogs and wheels, within the case of a dimension of 40mm. That's some impressive engineering. The best way to know that your a watch geek and appreciate the design and look of a watch is simple. It's when you look down at your watch to tell the time, then return to whatever you were doing and then remember that you forgot to tell the time, you looked at the watch but not the time ;)
I bought a Guess tank-style dress watch with a Miyota movement 15 years ago. I considered it disposable but it's still going strong. I now proudly display it alongside my Zenith El Primero, Rolex GMT2, and Omega Seamaster Chronograph. Great video! Thanks :)
+Go Aztecs very true. I think many watch people would also group in any "fashion" watches in with these like Fossil, Michael Kors, Coach etc. It's all about what you like and is within your budget
I hate the GMT2. I hope you don't have that hideous Pepsi bezel!
I got a michiko when I got my first job overseas. It was 45 bucks and 21 years later, it still runs strong.
MK IS a bashion brand, their chronos doesn't even work and the build quality and materials are a monstuosity. Fossil, hilfiger and some others are a lil bit more decent, but mvnt, DW and MK are a fraud
People should get timex watch instead of mvmt or daniel wellington. Timex is legit and doesnt try to be something it is not.
They still copy alot of other brands designs lol
I don't hate on people who buy fashion brands because the average person is unaware of the crappy quality they're getting. I too thought my first $200 fashion brand watch was amazing when I was 16. Then the other day I bought my first Seiko for half the price (second hand) which it's 10x better quality and will last years or decades longer.
I just want you guys to get the best bang for your buck! If you're in the MVMT price range check out Seiko and Citizen for awesome quality stuff at a great price.
+toiler gspot agreed!
What do you think about Casio edifice line?
toiler gspot when people forget about ORIENT...........
Quality for something that is obsolete with regard to function... all you have left is form. These have good form.
You can get an Orient Bambino for the same price as a DW.
Not really. lol
Noggsy Joggsy you have probably never seen the Orient Sun and Moon
Noggsy Joggsy: Seriously? Orient Duty, Orient Multi eyes, Orient Explorer, Mako, etc... Then there are the orient star lines. Bambino is a classic styled dress watch bit orient makes many good looking watches.
Junghans Max Bill
Ya, we also watched urban gentry
Hey, Kavalier, what is your opinion on Vincero and Vincera?
Thank you so much for the information and insight! I am a watch enthusiast, I am not very knowledgable, but I do appreciate particular brands based on performance, history/lineage and purpose. This review was HIGHLY insightful and keep up the great work!
So do you advise against getting a mvmnt watch. As I was just about to buy an extremely good looking one
Very well paced informative video as usual.
Who would you recommend to a Canadian who’d like to order a MTM suit online?
Interested to know what you think of Tayroc.
I own 4 and love them, though I’ve never owned a super expensive watch so I only have crappy Walmart/target products as a comparison.
You put this out at the perfect time...I just started getting into watches and just today watched Federico's video on the whole 60% Swiss parts thing...I love it but man, is it an expensive hobby lol
Achilles Petreas expensive is a huge understatement hahah
Federico and TGV (The Urban Gentry) are phenomenal resources!!
Depends on what you mean by expensive...
Good watches are expensive to buy but not necessarily expensive to own - sure you need 6k to buy a Rolex but when you sell it you probably get that back or even a bit more :)
It doesn't have to be an expensive hobby. All you can really wear anyway would be, oh maybe... 1 edc watch for work, 1 dress watch, 1 beater watch for the gym, 1 waterproof watch for the zombie apocalypse. That's 4 watches, plus straps and or bracelets. Of course if luxury is your thing then all bets are off.
Hey Jon,
Thanks for the video! I just found your vids this week, starting with the Bond films and etiquette - great stuff!
I have a Rolex GMT II, it was a gift from my father. It is by far my favorite watch, and I often feel guilty when I wear other watches. I have Bulova, mvmt, Timex, Nixon, and Suunto. It almost feels counterfeit wearing cheap watches after wearing the Rolex. You said it all in this video, the cheap watches don't have the heritage and craftsmanship. Wearing a finely built timepiece makes me feel grateful and inspired. Just wanted to share that with you.
Keep up the good work, sir!
-Brett
I have Seiko and Orient automatic watches and they are only about $125-150 I know they are considered low end but I love them. There are definitely adorable options for automatic movements!!
I stumbled across this video- I could listen to you talk about watches all day! You seem very passionate and dedicated to your hobby (which is great), and I am planning on getting the Daniel Wellington because I want a simple but elegant watch. Nice video :)
Naima dont you dare get the DW... get a Tissot Everytime
Does mvmt make watchea that will last for a long time? Also, are they quality watches that will look nice when dressing formally?
Well said man. You have concisely and without bias, explained what I have been trying to convey to my friend's for a year now! Love this video for your non-pretentious presentation style and clear information.
I bought the Seiko SNK789 for $80, which has an automatic movement. I bought an affordable leather strap for $25. Now, I have a sports watch that works great as a dress watch too with the leather band on it. Changing the strap is super easy to gives any watch a new look and feel. If your looking at any brands in the middle of the Swatch triangle, you may be able to afford a Stowa. They have great watches, not too expensive, and Stowas are absolutely beautiful.
Mark Duvall I believe I have the same watch, how does the leather strap look because I've been planning on buying a more comfortable strap.
Leather strap looks great. My watch came with the metal bracelet. I have a brown crocodile strap with white stitching. The leather dresses it up, but the stitching brings it down a notch.
Mark Duvall cool
The SNK789 is a classy looking watch!
I have bought the SNK789 a few months back with exactly that in mind as well! It looks really good on a leather strap.
A really interesting video! Didn’t know all of that about the watch industry
I recently bought Forge&Foster 44mm vanguard STERLING, did I bought crap or can my choice be in any way justified?
I like your perspective on the watch - making industry. Great video, you debunk all the issues about these new fashion brands.
Thank you. Your videos are truly informative and give a great perspective on the different topics. Can you on a future video talk about the difference between "fashion" vs "luxury" watches. Also, when dressing in a suit vs casual, what is the best type of watch to wear (luxury, chronograph, metal, leather, etc.).
What do guys think of 'Vincero' ?
I like the style but I would like to hear your guys opinion or experiences.
Are they anything like MVMT?
Being a watch collector, I really appreciate any watch that is fancy and stylish and is rather reliable. I prefer a mechanical movement over a quartz movement. But I’ve had cheap watches where the hands don’t stay in place therefore making it lose time. One in particular was my favorite, an Omejei watch where the bezel was see through and the movement was displayed clearly. But the hands would spin around the shaft of the movement and lose time because it was a cheap knockoff watch. But the design was beautiful. The Fifth Watch that I chose to add to my collection was recommended by “Real Men Real Style” on UA-cam. The design aspect of it I became attached to. It’s a beautiful design as well. I just recently ordered the rose gold version which I really dig.
Never been a fan of the MVMT/Daniel Wellington school of watches. Both on the quality front, but also aesthetic front. I also think the watches are too big, 40-42mm is often too large for my wrist, especially for a watch with a minimal face, the proportions are off. Another solid video, well done.
Full size men's watches were 28 to 30mm 50 years ago. For some bizarre reason, watches grew to become clown size watches. I have no idea why. Maybe the baby boomers have bad eyesight and need bigger watches?
Mate, I’m a kid and a 41mm MVMT fits my wrist... what are you talking about?
You are just a stick with no arms
Noodleman Just because it fits doesn't mean it's proportioned. Minimalistic dress watches like those are supposed to be small so as to not stick out from under the cuff of a dress shirt. Men before used to wear 34mm dress watches.
I'm the same, fairly small wrists, but more importantly I work with my hands a lot. Bulky watches just get in the way.
This might be a long shot but can anyone tell me what watch is in the into the stainless steel one on all the boxes ? Thank you !
But Alpha Male said MVMT is better than Rolex!
Yeah but no one watches alpha m
I just bought my first 2 weeks ago which is The fifth Brooklyn watch. I just like watches to look good with what I'm wearing. I'm in for the fashion. Good video. Keep up the great work.
Thanks. Enjoyed this one.. learned a good bit on industry
interesting topic and take. I think some of your info may not be up to date. For example, I believe the Swiss have recently tightened the criteria under which a watch may have the "Swiss" designation; furthermore there are actually differences in quality of quartz movements, with better ones vibrating in frequencies in excess of 30 000 hz, vs 15 000 for cheaper ones.
man express themselves trough jewellery only with their watch and wedding rings.... this mindset is just sad
I would like to start my own watch brand. Can you pls share the trusted watch maker whom u deal with ? Thanks
Casio forever
Great info. I had the "Swiss" Tissot that quit work after three years. I brought it to a jeweller -he put a battery in it and didnt respond. He came to the conclusion that it needed cleaning and would be a $300 charge?? luck would be, I said I can buy a new watch for that price...and did. This was about year 2005 and I just shelved the watch and recently looked up the info on its movement. Has a ETA movement worth $49 Swiss francs. All the jeweller would have done back then is replace the OEM movement and charge for cleaning. I recently opened the Tissot for fun and removed the movement . It looks like a plastic resin case with a cheap looking gear train, pretty much sealed up "moduler" like, that cant be worked on, faster to just replace like a motherboard on a PC. So beware a $500 watch can have a $49 movement...Cheers
How do you get your own brand put on the watch ?
This video is so honest and tell the both side... Thumb up!!!
From my understanding, you can get the same build quality and better for less money than what MVMT and other brands like it are selling for. You can even get them with a very similar design.
Excellent breakdown without the emotional bias, be it for or against. Thank you!
I’ve scoured the internet for a video like this and this is the ONLY video that adequately has explained the flaw of fashion watches.
What do you think of the automatic watches under 100$ ? Is it good to buy them, or, for that price, is better a quarz movement watch?
StylEd Men seiko snk80_ the last digit changed upon the color. Some call it the starter automatic because it's so cheap. Seiko, orient, citizen make really good watches both automatic and quartz but you can't go wrong with an automatic from any of these brands and can get them under a 100 bucks
What are your thoughts about the Sternglas Zeitmesser?
So... Are all quartz watches "bad"? I´m just getting into watches, actually I only own 2 an automatic Bulova Marine Star and a quartz Pierre Lannier. Was the second one a bad investment?
Not "Bad"- as long as you like it, it serves your needs, and you enjoy wearing it then it's a win. For many quartz pieces they are produced in high volumes which reduces the rarity thus unlikely that it will hold value in the long term. So as an "investment" those will not be the best but it depends on how you want to do the math.
How about if i got Daniel Wellington only $20 (not copy) ?? Is it worthed??
I am a MVMT owner.... man do I love that watch, it feels good and looks good and not only the aesthetic (cuz I’ve been complimented on my rose gold revolver 40mm quite a bit) but because it has a feel to it, I love the look and love the way it dresses, fashion wise it’s great and it has an elegance to it, not all mvmt watches get that, I just picked the one fitted me the most, some will like it some others won’t but it gives me the time when I need it to and is a really nice accessory with nice leather to it.... people can judge and criticize and what not but doesn’t really faze me at all, honestly it’s been great and MVMT itself has not only amazing customer service but also really good aesthetics so yea
What are some cheap but really nice watch's because I want an Original Grain but now I don't know!! Please help!!
Also very important, the continued serviceability of watches from non fashion brands. Everything about the movements, crowns etc are beefier and are fixed instead of replaced. Small consumable parts are replaces after decades. They continue to make parts for your watch, essentially forever. So if you have a heirloom, you know theres always a factory it can go back to to keep it ticking. Tag Hueur might be over priced, but you can keep an Aquaracer forever.
I hate them because they are cheap AF. I have a Junkers Bauhaus 6060-5 (which isn't that expensive) and it is 50x better made than the ones you listed.
+Tanner Lynn those look great! Tough to keep track of so many brands. Love the styling of Junkers thank you for the recommend
Mike he probably means cheap in constructions and quality vs price.
Mike except I am sure the watch costs more than 100 to produce and a 100 watch to make would be so much better than a 5 dollar watch
The Junkers Bauhaus is a fantastic watch
Fashion watches aren't really cheap at all, especially considering the low effort from the brand's part that goes in to them (as the OP said he basically made his own watch, ready to sell with basically little to no expertise). A Swatch or a Timex can be much cheaper (20-40$), yet come with tons of heritage. Or a made in Japan Seiko automatic for that matter can cost less than a "cheap" Chinese made fashion watch. Value is key.
Extremely informative and insightful. Thanks
Great information! I am not a watch snob but do appreciate nice style and quality. I don't buy 'off' brands and since seeing your video never will! I like seiko omega and yes..even timex!
I do watch repair. I've been inside these pieces of crap. I wish people would stop promoting them. Tired of browsing through a car magazine and right after reading about a $75,000 car, a stupid Stauer ad or some other crap. So much cringe.
@renewer Depends a lot on how much you're willing to spend.
@renewer Seiko, Orient, Hamilton, Tissot, Omega, Nomos, the list goes on...
Hey Jon I'm new to watches and menswear in general. My wife got me a beautiful stainless steel Stuhrling for Christmas that actually tells great time, so I'm thinking I really like cool watches and would like to own more. Can you recommend something under $100 that has the look of a vintage Patek Philippe? Basically what I want is something with a brown leather band that's classy, dressy, and very simple and elegant without the price tag of a luxury Swiss watch. Any ideas?
I just got a MVMT watch, as my first watch ever. I know its not the best, but as a starter watch, to see if it even suits me to wear a watch, I think its pretty nice. I like the look and I can easily afford the price. And if I discover that watches are not for me, then its not an unreasonable amount of money wasted.
But if I do end up loving watches, then im well aware that I will upgrade at some point, but for now im pretty happy with my watch :)
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Would you mind spelling for me the watch brand you mentioned at 6:52 please?
BOLDR
the biggest reason why watch guys are complaining about watches like MVMT is not just the heritage and all that stuff, it's that you can actually find many other cheap brands that give you much more for the same amount of money..like timex, or seiko or whatever
The top 3 for any collection and the first in mine years ago: Vacheron, Audemars, and Patek. Supplement with Cartier, Jæger LeCoultre, and Baume et Mercier.
&Ö& Paneristi Yes those first. Have those as well. But Cartier and Baume make some beautiful, quality pieces.
Another great video! Keep them coming!
Hey Kavalier could you maybe do a video on eyebrows my eyebrows grow so fast and I have to pluck them every day so if maybe you could give tips sorry if it's a strange request.
+Joe Jj I'm in the same boat. Will see what I can add as valuable commentary!
Thanks for the insightful information on watches I too also in to collecting watches and have been hearing a lot about watch companies such as 5th watch and original wood grain not realizing the huge mark up for watches that basically have no real track record or history!
I wouldn't say that the mark-up is the sole reason but it's a large part of it. To me the difference is the craftsmanship and traditional nature of watches but it is all very subjective. I think if you like the style of a 5th watch then go for it! Just know what you're getting.
Thanks for an insightful video.
Just one thing, to make it Swiss Made, I do remember it's 60% in value, not content.
Awesome video and great information man!!
7:35: 'Price quality heritage', is the argument here.
The point of interest for mechanical watches is the engineering wonder it is to immediately convert a tiny level of physcial exertion (winding it, incidental movement for automatics) translates into what used to be an incredibly important tool. Its some old romanticism, its some doomsday conservatism, some vanity, and some interest in mechanical engineering.
Can someone tell me what is wrong with Original Grain?
Thanks for another informative session - love the singing 😎
As someone who bought an MVMT a couple of years ago, I agree completely with your video. I read all the reviews on these watches that I can find, and I guess I’m fortunate that mine is still running at two years. The band started falling apart after a few months, and eventually had to be replaced. One of the buttons has now fallen off. At the time I bought it I knew I was overpaying, that it was really a $50 watch, but I liked the style so I bought it anyway. As I am becoming more knowledgeable about watches, I have started buying inexpensive yet high-quality watches such as Timex Seiko, Citizen and others. These watches are much more satisfying and enjoyable to own.
I do disagree on your contention that all Chinese and Japanese watches are low-quality, and all Swiss watches are good. According to the UA-camrs I follow, who know watches extremely well, there are very good Chinese and Japanese watches, and really terrible Swiss watches. You just can’t tell from where the watch was made. There are some excellent videos on how to tell high-quality watch regardless of where it was made. There are even some high-quality work swatches from Timex, Seiko and others.
You're right, I was a little broad on that one. Didn't realize this video would go so far!
I think you explained it very well. I'm a watch enthusiast and would never purchase one of those watches you mentioned. However, I know that most people don't really care or notice what you have on your wrist. I've had $900 Seiko Tuna and ~$600 Hamilton's, but the watch I got the most compliments on was a sub $100 Invicta.
I found your video informative especially about what "little it takes" to make a watch a "swiss watch". I didn't know that it was as little as 60% made in switzerland.
I had Casio's and never more than $19.99 my entire youth and teenage life and thought expensive watches were 'stupid.' Then I was given a Citizen's Eco Drive back in 2007 and my opinion changed, that watch STILL to this day looks bran new something no cheep watch I ever owned could claim in the same time-frame. I've expanded my 'Nice' watch collection dramatically over the past 10 years and am still amazed how the watches are still crystal clear and the metal has never faded or lost their plating. Everybody should get at least one decent watch in their life, started a new hobby for me when I did lol.
Love the Videos, just subscribed and plan on watching most of your video history.
This was incredibly informative
Heyyy I know I am a half year too late, but maybee I get an answer :)
What is your opinion about Fossil watches?? I'm relativ joung and because of this I dont have enough money to buy a expensive really good watch...
So I startet looking around and I found a few Fossil watches which look nice and sound nice for around 250-350 €
But befor I will buy one, I would be very interested in your opinion about Fossil, and if it is intelligent to buy one...
Greetings
P. S. Sorry for my not that perfect englisch, I am not a native speaker....
I did a video about Fossil as well, on my channel about the Apple Watch
The Kavalier First of all, thank you for your answering :D
I will look after the Video, which you named...
Also I have to say that I'm new to watches (Im only 16 years old) because I have another question for you...
I looked arround and heard the name pierre lannier, after that I searched for opinions about them in the Internet and I found nearly nothing :/
So my question is, what do you think about them, is buying them intelligent?
Thank you for answering me and helping me out with my questions
Greetings
(pls excuse my bad englisch, as I said I'm not a nativ speeker)
I love the MVMT “chronographs” that don’t actually work because they put form before function. TLDR; they don’t have markings for minutes / seconds so good luck timing anything
Anyone know any good manufacturers for this?
Can you please also give your thoughts on Vincero watches?
Yes has been frequently requested
really great info- thanks!
Great analysis!!!
You're on the right path. I'd like to own a Rolex, but unfortunately I like to eat and have a roof over my head more! Ha ha! Keep posting the videos. Excellent job!
What watch under $100 would you recommend for a guy with thin wrists?
Aditya Chelsea Gupta you should try the sekio snk 809 it's a super great watch with an automatic movement and clear case back + it's perfect on a small wrist at only 37mm case the only downside is it might make a little noise and the lug width is 18mm might be a bit thin
Where does Rotary stand in this?
If you really are considering those watches like DW, MVMT and the fifth watches, have a look at what Timex brings to the table. A heritage brand with a good solid background that makes watches that are very affordable in a lot of styles.
Amazing bro! well done!
so can I make an alibaba prototype just to have a custom watch for $50?
Great video and I like the tone. I too am just getting into watches and have definitely noticed the animosity towards "fashion watches". I can understand some hate that these watches get, as there is a level of craftsmanship that appears to be lost to these manufacturers, however I disagree with the watch snobs that look down upon people who buy fashion watches. I personally find the design of mvmt watches very appealing. Could I find a tissot in a similar price range with a similar design? Possibly but the "heritage" argument is stale. Should traditional watch makers feel threatened by newcomers with Chinese built watches, isn't it up to them to do something about it? Doesn't the consumer win as a result of increased competition anyway?
Buy what the watch you want to buy and love the watch you want to love.
And to watch snobs everywhere: Educate those who show and interest in horology, not everyone you see who spent $80 more than they should've on a watch.
I know quality always come first for the watch lover. But for DW & 5th Watches, I love their designs. I don't own any of them and I don't give comment to argue with anyone. Some people do love them because they just love how those watches look on their hand. You can't just say "go buy Seiko, it has a better movement".
The thing is, you can buy an unbranded version of these watches in Chinese websites for an even lower price and same quality. If you like the design, then at least don't get ripped off by the companies.
do you think Invicta or Vincero's are bad watches??
Quick go buy an invicta right now! They're on sale and you can save $$$ on their $800 watches. Oh wait they are always on sale. Don't fall into their clever marketing schemes. Also they have a "f" from the BBB do I need to say any more?
Great video. There are so many great heritage brands out there. Seiko, Citizen, Hamilton, bulova, Timex to name a few. Then you can go into vintage or second hand. Mvmt, Michael Kors, Diesel, DW and other fashion brands are way overpriced with no quality. But I always say people buy what they like.
Lol I rock a Tag Heuer Quartz (Aquaracer) that I love. To be fair, there are $50 Automatic watches, too.
I usually buy fossil watches, i like the design and they are affordable, can you recommend another brand around the same price tag?
Orient, Seiko, Timex it is all about what you like!
Great video & explanation.
5Th Tokyo Collection was one of the best fashion watches. they are affordable, well made and beautiful. and this is according to my experience for 2 years with this watch.
Good video, nice point of view been made.
Do you think Vincero watches are in the same boat as The Fifth and MVMT watches?
git git how are they like Seiko? Zero history, just cheap garbage.
The history or lack thereof makes it cheap garbage? Serious question.
Michael Wargo No but it can make a brand more respected. Patek Philippe for example is the top dog in watches and as such it can be guaranteed that almost everything they put out is art, thus the history helps. But no, history isn't all. But those watches do seem along the lines of MVMT
Ok, thanks Hjfw
git git why? They still use cheap quartz movements and their designs are nothing special. I don't see how they're like Seiko or Orient
Consider the warranty as well. Both as a consumer and as a seller. One good production run of malfunctioning watches could put you completely out of business.
Even a IWC or Panerai replica has better quality and movements than a shitty Daniel Wellington.
When it comes to “cheaper watches” my favorite brands are Vincero and Original Grain. They have some beautiful ass watches.