Are AMD FX CPUs still worth it for gaming?
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2017
- Threadripper and i9 CPUs are cool and all... but what about the "REAL WORLD" solutions for budget gaming? Until Ryzen 3 is here AMD FX is still your cheapest option to get in to gaming... but is it still worth at 6 yrs old?
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When you're watching this video with a Fx-8350
Qyvern I got the amd phenom ii x6 1100T processor looking to get the Fx-8370
its $80 on new egg so not bad for budget
watching it with my own 8320 haha.
i did the same thing the EXACT same thing and it is worth it my friend. i actually got the 8350 and was very happy with the results.
I'm with ya !
1TB SSD, ...
"Nothing too crazy"
I have two 500GB HDDs and one is loud af.
I love the start up time of my system with my old HDDs. Gives you time to finish your coffee and get another.
DegenerateProduction and another
it's not b/c of ur hdd but shits u have done to ur os. i'm running w10 on a 6 yr old 5400 rpm 500 gb hdd and the boot time is less than 10 sec. learn how to use computer instead of crapping on hdd. rest of the spec: 10 yr old mobo, c2d cpu, 2gb ddr2 ram
There is more to a system start up than just loading the OS. Yes "stuff I've done to it" as in installing software that runs at start is slowing it down and that's just it. While those are loading and using the HDD it slows down any other process till it's done. I don't consider it truly started until I can open something without a noticeable delay. My actual boot time is not much greater than yours.
it's like 1 minute with windows 10... time to switch bro.
1.5 years after this video posts, I'm still rocking a FX-8350 and a GTX 960. -___-
I'm on an overclocked FX 8300 and an RX480 8gb, still kickin lol
I just bought one and I will pair it with a gtx 750ti.. will I get good performance;?
@@jorjoglou7818 depending on what games you play
thats literally my build lmao
@@obedgarciajr4036 light games mostly.. csgo fortnite, maybe a pubg.. rocket league.
60 fps is good enough for me. Having an fx cpu and an excellent gpu is still better than consoles.
@Ye olde goi I'm new to it but I know what you mean. From a performance aspect it is an upgrade.
@Ye olde goi Yes I get that. There are AMD series of processors with specs in the same range as Intel processors.
@Ye olde goi He meant he was going to switch to AMD. No need to be so rude to the man.
No doubt. I have an FX CPU 8370 125 watt paired with Nvidia Geforce GT710 video card, I am a pretty happy camper. not to mention 32 gb onboard ram. this system screams , especially under 20 mins tops transcoding a video with audio. you cannot beat this.
intel is trash
I still use an FX6300, it's a pretty solid CPU but it suffers from bad frame timing/stuttering on the majority of modern games for me now. Definitely time to save the pennies for Ryzen.
Im same FX6300 OC to 4.2Ghz not a big gamer maybe average a few hours a month but looking to upgrade to ryzen soon always been with AMD my first ever was a K6-2 @ 333Mhz
Fairly Miffed Flanders same here
Im excited to see people build their ryzen setup. :) I hope you guys upload a video. That would be fun
yeah same for me got mine oc at 4.52ghz and got a RX 480 GPU it's holding it's own tbh let's me down in just cause 3 sometimes but to be expected
I believe that stuttering would be your ram/[cpu/nb] because i've had no stuttering in any games with mine
The FX got a lot of crap but in all truth, it ran every game that came out for me the last several years and handled all day to day work tasks day in day out. Unless you were constantly exporting videos or some similar task, it did well.
Ryan Martinage I agree... I was running a 8150 for like 6 years... I loved that computer and for the price I got it at in 2012 it was a no brainier (it came in a combo deal for wayyyyyyy below market pricing at that time)
I always found that CPU to be a solid choice. Funny thing, I actually found "that one micro-atx" board that was able to feed that power hungry chip at 3ghz(yes, my 8350 was actually UNDERCLOCKED for most of its existance). Served me well for the 5 years I used it, and it was the first point where I was able to realize one of my design goals for a gaming PC(I was 13 at the time...don't judge) - nearly flawless emulation of the PS2.
i'm still running an 8320e for my daily pc and a intel i7-4770 for when i get bored lol also have a i7-4770 for work but im really stuck on amd for some reason. no complaints from me.
Im still running all the games i want to on a 6300
i disagree. had the FX8350 paired with a gtx 970 OC and in literally every game i had cpu bottleneck. also the cpu overheated, then i wendt with an i5 kaby lake and 0 problems.
FX8350 still very good, its not the 90's any more, old cpu's are very relevant.
its really good,probably the best power/price out there,but when you wan tto upgrade,you have to upgrade the MB as well.
Yeah, sure it's good but considering my almost 9-year-old $45 Xeon X5670 beats the FX 8350 in pretty much every scenario it kinda puts into perspective how far behind AMD was in terms of IPC. I'm very glad they are once again competitive with Ryzen and all.
@@SilkStreets We're talking about gaming. Xeon chips have alot of cores, but weak cores. Games like powerfull cores
The X5670 has 6 cores... that's 2 less than the FX processor. And, I'm not sure where you've gotten the idea that Xeons have "weak cores" but that's completely false. AMD makes great processors but everyone knows Intel has always been ahead with single threaded performance (Strong cores) which is what games prefer. Xeons are almost never used for gaming because they are a lot more expensive than their "Core" counterparts (i3,i5,i7, etc) and the fact that most are locked down and can't be overclocked which is their main weakness, however, the X58 generation of Xeons can be easily overclocked as I have mine at 4.3Ghz.
Furthermore, if you search up any Xeon VS. FX comparison here on youtube (which has been done many times) you'll see the xeon always comes out on top, especially gaming.
Its the power supply Brother...
Joe Ballz its not only the psu, i have 600w bronce: system wattage ~380 max for me
( did overclocks could be higher)
@@iKn-ft2bc dude, it was a joke
If you find one for a good price then yes. For example the FX-6300 you can sometimes find for $30 which is a steal.
My friend maxxed out Doom with an FX-6300 and a 1050 Ti. They might not be powerful, but I was honestly surprised.
LORD BURGEL at 120p? Nice.
got my fx 8320 for 50$ with a msi 970 gmaing mobo for 45$
kek
With anti-aliasing disabled actually Elon61. What do you freakin want from me, graphs with .1% lows?
I doubt you were around for it, but 6 years ago the FX line was kicking ass in nearly every benchmark.
Did you borrow the wind swaying trees from Austin Evans?
ReviewTechUSA Your *actually* my favorite youtuber, you keep it real no bullshit. Keep up the great work!
I love your videos.But please go to the gym
ReviewTechUSA Awesome to see you here!
200$
Could do with a cheese burger right now but someone stole my $200 :(
Still rocking FX 6300 and MSI 750 ti. Not ideal but its the best Ive ever had.
That's the problem with computers, there's ALWAYS better stuff out there, no matter what you have. Buy it today, already 'old' next month.
@@mirola73 i have q6600 and HD7850 2gb :D (still awesome)
Rebel1776
I have FX 6300 and Radeon R7 250 OC. It kind if sucks. I get 20fps and I can’t video edit.
FX 6300 & GTX 670 and I am happy. :)
Rebel1776 -7
Yup FX 6100 user here. Gaming in 2019 at 1080p, Medium/high settings at 30fps.
Thanks needed confirmation lol🙏
Uh Jay, you're overclocking the crap out of a 6 year old CPU and then making it sound like the FX series isn't worth it. Really? Lol.
the average oc for an AMD 8350 is 4.8ghz with something like an h100i enclosed cooler and artic silver thermal...
seen some do ~4.4/4.5ghz on stock air cooler and next no voltage bumps on asus rog mobos
this cpu can go up to 5 ghz with a good loop and 2 tripple fan radiators. do that and then throw the gameas ad it again
@@leeverink32 what is the point about it to spend so much monney in cooling with so a cheap cpu?
Why wouldn't you overclock an outdated chip? Lol.
Jay, give me that computer with the same hardware and I'll have it running much better. I can only assume you didn't consider TDP at all. The ASRock can't handle big over-clocks without under-volting as it has notoriously bad power management. It's max TDP is probably
I'm still rocking a FX-8350 with GTX 970 😇
***** Okay! Gift me a Ryzen 5 then!
***** So, GTFO.
970 still has a lot of kick in it :)
I have the same setup, 8350 at 5 GHz and a 970, I haven't had any problems with any games that I play.
same but mine is a FX-8320
9:05 Change the Thermal paste under the Northbridge HS every 3 years
I have an FX8320 with 12gb ram and a 1060. It runs everything I throw at it, I stream most games at 60fps with Max settings
I use an AMD Fx-6300 and an MSI Radeon R9 390 and most games run at very high and over 60fps. Gaming is completely fine and very cheap to get into.
Dyoxis same except I have a 8350. Idk what went wrong with his, I get over 60 average on games like gta5 at high and very high.
I put an R9 290 tri x oc in my girlfriends pc with an fx6300. Games just fine.
I have a 6300 with Sapphire 290x and it does ok with most but struggles with Wildlands.
try running Saints row , wolfenstein, or the evil within 2. I garauntee you, you wont even hit 50 fps
You must not be talking about new era games or either you’re playing at 1366x768
The FXs actully only cost about $20 less than a Ryzen 5 1400!
And B350 Boards are dirt cheap.
So Ryzen is always the best choice if you don't want to buy second-hand.
ikr fx chips are honestly a rip off at this point
UNEXILED gpu?
I still have my Fx8320 from 4 years ago. coupled with a gtx650, it's a true beast!
just updared from an 8320 at 4.3, toa 1500x (at 3.8) amd i can honestly say im glad i did. still using my 960, gained around 14-20 fps in intense sitations in battlefield 1, like a 64 player game would shudder in fights but no more. night and day.
Spencer Roberts awesome im a little jealous i have a i5 6400' but I'd rather a 1500. the extra threads would allow me to stream
Man im with FX 6350 and RX 570(8G) and almost every game i run is at 80 to 135 FPS,so of course its worth it guys
XD well in 720p maybe dude ;)
@@tyonorshapzc7tjfvb7-caz no
Well, my FX-8300 is running perfectly fine in gaming, along 16Gb of RAM and an MSI GTX 1060 OC...
1080p, 60fps in all titles, included recent titles, all in High or Ultra Settings... No complaints.
I have a fx 6300 , Gtx 1060 3Gb , 8gb ddr3 1600mHz RAM and a M5A78L-M Plus motherboard. Any idea of what I should do to upgrade? Thanks.
Yep I run an FX6300 16GB dual channel and an RX 570 8GB - no overclock and run pretty much everything on high to ultra with no issues. No idea.
@@bottle_of_fries9927 that is an old 780 chipset mobo, a terrible choice for FX cpus, considering it was made for Phenom II and Athlon II (AM3 CPUS) with AM3+ support as an afterthought.
@@stiffon5605 bruh i am thinking of upgrading my gtx 750ti with RX 570 4gb will the cpu bottleneck the gpu anyhow ?
My fx 8300 is somehow bottlenecking my 1050ti and almost always runs at 90-100%...
FX is definitely worth it for regular desktop use. Modern software and the way we use our computers these days makes the multi core FX do better than an i3 with so few cores. Regular desktop use is often less about IPC and more about having loads of stuff running at the same time. I'm not suggesting someone goes out and builds a new system around the old FX CPU but if you want a capable desktop machine picking one up secondhand makes a whole lot of sense. PS Linux loves AMD FX, just saying.
Stephen Morrish I have a fx6300
W4$h_D0g3 fsb overclocked the shit out of that cpu lol I loved it Moved on to a 1700x but that was a good one
W4$h_D0g3 I do to
Fx6300 @ 4.3ghz
1700X has 8Cores and 2x the threads. ;) actually.
Stephen Morrish at that point you may as well go with Ryzen 1400
when he said 6 years old i thought the CPU is from 2001 but its actually 2011, thats scary bro.
Maybe you just live on mars where years are approximately twice as long
What year are you living in?
10 years ago was mid 90's for me...
ive started thinking of 2013 as a top era of hip hop... 2013....
Not only does it take 684 days around the Sun, Martian days last 40 minutes longer than Earth's.
My rig was doing the exact same thing. It is 9 years old I put a XFX 850 in it and that's when problems happened. I have a FX 6300. Power supply upgrade seems to have solved it. Your channel has taught me a ton about computers, thank you!
Really enjoyed my time with FX when I first got into pc gaming worked well enough. Perfect introduction to overclocking
the fx 4300 provides a console experience
ketch
well, 4300 + simple motherboard, 8gb ram, rx 460 and a 1tb hdd
Tada: ±€350-400 pc with console performance, cheap steam sales and normal desktop programs, such as word.
Doesn't sound too bad of a deal compared to a console.
Not to forget that, contrary to consoles, this budget pc has an upgrade path.
Kaka Kaka
That's true. I didn't think about that. Kudos to you.
Console is $250
ketch fx4350 with h55 AIO @ 4.5ghz 1.34v
Custom heatsinks and tiny fans all over my budget motherboard.
GTX 670 power edition keepsall modern games mixed medium to high settings on average 47-64 fps. Much better than console quality with frame times of 16-26ms when shit is going down on busy areas. proud of my little CPU. I plan to kill it with LN2 one day
*maxes out OC sliders for 1070* *wonders why it randomly shuts off*
actually it's not a power limit that's caused by the PSU, it's actually due to the power phase on the motherboard. Most 970 mobos have 4+1 power caps and the FX 8320 is sure as hell going to go beyond 140W at 4.5 GHz so it was prolly caused by the motherboard.
Zewyn Teh Ninju : this Asrock board has 8+2 and it the only 970 board compatible with fx 9xxx series at 220w tdp. But the VRM cooling suck the heatsink is more esthetic if anything I had the same blackout issue until I put a fan on them. This board is great for FX with great features 2400 ram, 8+2, M.2 and USB 3.0. I had my fx6300@4,69ghz and my fx9590 is hitting 5,0 on all cores no issues, everything auto.
You do not need to OC a clock speeds on FX CPU's, you need max out CPU NB and max out a memory, higher, than 1866.
*Doesn't watch the entire video to see that it was actually the PSU*
Rare someone knowing AMD tweaking.
I run a FX8350 with a 1060 and 16gb ram. in 2019, still plays every game I throw at it and in a quality I am happy with it! bought it a few months after launch. My liquid cooler went out before my cpu. even after going to 78 degrees C before I replaced the cooling, it still runs like a champ. I have over clocked, but see no reason with the performance I get.
The fx-8350 was in my last build with antec liquid cooling, sabertooth 990fx Mobo, 2 GTX 760's, 16gb RAM, 850w PSU, Evo 850 SSD, sold it to a friend for $800 , with a monitor , keyboard/mouse etc
2:20
Jay, you're not improving the IPC by overclocking.
You're increasing the clocks, not the instructions per clock
yeah figured he just meant the single threaded performance rather than ipc lol
But he IS increasing the instructions per second, and that is what he meant when he said that.
The Gamer Guy well in this case it is IPS not IPC.. C is for cycle
I think those who care know what he meant and those who don't likely are in the camp of people who see 8 cores at 4.5 ghz and see a 36ghz cpu.
Capitalism Entertainment and Technologies what the fuck are you talking about
I've got an 8350 with a GTX 970 and it's treated me well the last 2.5 years
Pff, peasant
Austin Horton same here!
Austin Horton it'll still run Leaf of Legends at 400fps and Fallout 4 MAXED at 70fps with a ton of mods
400? lmao i have a 1060 and i5 7500 and get barely 300ish
ShadowOfDeath24 Yeah as long as I get 60fps at 1080p high settings with the games I like, I see no need to upgrade
"it's a smooth 40".... Man... Remember when high settings 1080p 32 fps was the goal.... "Human eye can't see over 30fps anyways"...lmao.. Things have definitely changed.
That Coolermaster 212 Evo is a legend.
Cheap, quiet and effective.
That installation was a little pain in the ass though since those screws were so damn tight.
A little tip. You don't have to tighten the screws all the way to bottom. It's enough that the cooler is firmly at its place and doesn't move/slide.
I have an FX 8350 with an RX 480, performs like a champ but boy does my room get hot
The answer, is a gun, and if that don't work, get a COOLER MASTER HYPER 212 EVO!
I have an i5 and gtx 1070 and also get my room hot...
Picked up a corsair cpu water cooler at Best Buy a couple of days ago for my FX8350. Best impulse buy ever. Running super cool.
Nachingh how hot?
Sell the 480, upgrade to a 980TI, make 20$ in the process.
Still use an FX 8350 with my RX 470
Works like a champ
Same setup here I'm just waiting for Ryzen 3 tbh
im rocking a fx 8320 oc'd to 4ghz and a r9 380.....honestly i havent ran into many games i do not max out with 1080p res. then again i dont buy every new game right when it releases either.
Ohhh yes. AMD Fx is still so worth it
@Salt Maker imagine not knowing shit about anything without "i9" or "ryzen" in the name
@Salt Maker that's crazy bro,but I dont remember askin
@Salt Maker b r u h😂
@Salt Maker so you overclock memory in Fx?
@Salt Maker however Fx beats 2700k if overclocked properly
Compared to that one overclocked
I'm so happy with my fx 8350 and my GTX 1660 Ti, everything 1080p 60fps
i've been using my 2013 FX8350 (i bought it when it was damn new) up until early this year as gaming pc, patiently waited for Ryzen. i had no big issues gaming on it tbh, sure it bottlenecked the GTX 1080 i bought on its release but Fallout 4, Overwatch, APB, Beam NG Drive, The Crew, Dirtrally and many more games where nicely enjoyable without lags.
i didnt want to get a LGA115X system as they lack PCI-E Lanes and cores, and the 2011-V3 stuff was just too expensive imo.
Still using the FX System for other things as its a very reliable machine, thing never failed me :)
Engineer six Same situation here, my good old fx8350 stil runs witcher ultra 60 fps which is good enough for me
I bought my 8350 as a prebuilt before I knew a thing about cpus (I sawAMD FX8350 and thought "well that sounds good but why isn't the intel cpu listed? Where will that go?..) The computer was labelled as an extreme build and came with a 980 (this was two years ago) but if I had of done more research I probably wouldn't have got that particular one just because of how much it has held me back with editing etc. But gaming wise, it's amazing, it never fails me and only bottle necks in GTA V and games like that.
I have no intention now of upgrading anytime soon though because it's fine and will easily give me at least another year so Ryzen can drop in price because right now, for the CPU any way, I'm liking the colour red
Engineer six I built my first computer recently and went with an FX-8350 black edition and a GTX 1050 Ti SSC. Mostly I just play Minecraft, some Space Engineers, and Rainbow 6 Siege and it works just fine for what I play. I'll eventually upgrade to Ryzen and use my old hardware for a home server or something. For what I paid, I'm happy with it.
Probably not the best CPU for hardcore gamers but for us casual gamers that don't want 4k60fps or whatever then older hardware is great. Even if Ryzen 3 is the same price, everything else is still more expensive.
FX processors still have their place in budget builds.
The rendering times are fine it's just with some large files (Especially captured game play) the timeline movement can be a bit laggy, which is frustrating. You can get round this by rendering before you start to edit and then edit the raw (As in unchanged) exported media but that isnt worth doing as it would take rendering times into many hours!
I'd love to upgrade to enthusiast grade CPUs so this wouldnt be a problem at all but that would need a complete foundation update which i cant afford, shame I can't just whack Ryzen into the mother board I have!
I have a 8350 with 8gb 480 and I run current games just fine. I've had the 8350 since it first released. I had a 5.1 OC on it but now have to run stock speed with boost clock. I use a H80 for cooling and have 5 case fans. Will be building new Ryzen system this summer.
almost the same here,(8350, 16gb ram, 390x, h110i for cooling, and a corsair carbide 540 with 5 case fans), i have never understood when people tells me about overheating problems and so on, i have never had a problem with it :)
CHARLES ALSTON I have the same build, runs all my games at 1080p pretty damn nicely.
CHARLES ALSTON yeah 8150 here no probs
i've got a 470 8gb, but other than that, its the same. we should start a club at this point
My OC’d Fx 6300 has been keeping me warm this winter
Still rocking my 8320 8core in 2020 still going tough 🤓👌🏼
i have an FX 8350 (non overclocked) with a GTX 970
in GTA V i can get over 60 fps with high to very high settings
runs pretty cool (65C) max (even with a 30-40$ cooler)
I still play lots of games in it without problem
same here (8350 970) It's a great combo
Or 8350 and RX480 are a pretty good duo too, its almost the same performance like the GTX970
I have the same specs as yours bro, still kicks ass! Even current AAA games. I play Overwatch in ultra settings 1080p.
I had my FX 6100 OCed to 4.8 ghz with a GTX 970, but never went over 60 FPS on GTA V 1080 max settings, always 40-50 fps.
FX 8350 with XFX R9 280X 3GB - 384 bit GDDR5 GPU here, runs all games smoothly. Especially GTA IV - over 60fps all the time, H1Z1, GTA V smooth, everythings going great :D
Small tip:
CPU/NB and RAM. Just overclock them instead.overclocking cores to 4.8-4.9ghz.
(2600mhz on cpu/nb, 2133-2400mhz on ram)
P.S. Cores is need to be overclocked too (4.5ghz would be perfect).
sprait720 kinda reminds me, my fx 4300 is overclocked to either 4.2 or 4.4 without touching voltages because I went straight to the fsb. I'm not exactly sure which of the two numbers it's actually sitting at.
yeah I get disappointed every time when I see FX being overclocked it the way that's shown in this video, while it's weakest spot is memory controller
Nice small tip hahahahahaha
Ubertwink
> weakest spot is memory controller
Exactly. That why i am talked about overclocking cpu/nb and ram.
Thank you! I got a fx system and was inspired to upgrade from 8320 to 8370 based on this video, to get a bit more out of my 1070. Cost me just 50$ and I am a Happy little fx gamer! 😊
When I put a GTX 780 in my FX 8350 system (stock clocks), with a Corsair TX650W, I had the exact same power off issue in your video. Upgraded to a CX850M and it was fine.
2:23
How can you improve the IPC by increasing clock speeds ??!! 😂😅
hello walkman You mitigate low IPC performance by OCing. That's what is going on.
leanlifter1 yes I understand that but Jay put it the wrong way..
hello walkman I understand him.
leanlifter1 I got him too. I only pointed out his silly error
hello walkman It's not an error cause OCing helps low IPC chips like faildozer etc perform better all around including IPC performance. AMD FX chips are still offering shitty performance and games never did and still do not run better cause of more shit cores regardless of what the speculative AMD FX fan boys tried to claim.
Got an fx8350 here, waiting vor Vega to build a new Pc
sadly im on an Athlon x4 880K, but im doing the same!
William Long why wouldnt you get g4560?
Got an FX8350 too, but I got a secondhand 1060 for stupidly cheap
SONO 880k came out months before the g4560 was even thought of.
rocking the same cpu as well :p and no plans of upgrading. Actually just upgraded from a a10-6700 apu from my prebuilt xD
2019 I still use 4.7AMD FX 9590 the best you can still with all the games
Same here bro, FX 9590 Club here
Ayyyyeee 9590 crew
anyone else smell burning...
@@DM-nm1jd pair it with a noctua cpu fan and nothing will burn my friend
Same bro
I have 2 PCs, one with a ryzen 5 2600x + gtx 1060 and another one with an 8350 + R7 260x from my older build that I gave my brother. The 8350 is still kicking strong!
@Erotikstudio Winkler GmbH Hey it's a good room heater during the winter :^)
My Phenom II 955 Deneb is still pulling its weight after so many years. With 16GiB of memory and a recently upgraded 1060GTX, the games that I play - Fallout 4, Skyrim, Dirt 3, etc all play at their highest graphics settings on a 24" 1080p 144hz monitor.
Once I switched to 8350 from PhIIx965 4.1 Ghz I experienced an approximate 20 fps boost when I gaming and recording simultaneously with Fraps. 8350 with BCLK overclock and gtx 970 is still good for 144hz gameplay. So far, I had no problems with this rig in any shooter including the latest beta of Quake Champions.
You could probably run Fallout 4, Skyrim and Dirt 3 at 144 FPS on a iPhone at 1080p. The games he was running were far more demanding.
I ran the GR: Wildlands beta at high settings and that went fine - 40-60 fps
It's actually a GTX 1060
I have an AMD FX 8370 OCed to 4.2 GHz. I can ASSURE you that this is a gaming CPU, as it handles all the AAA titles that I've played so far, like GTA 5, at a solid 50-60 FPS on ultra setting.
SmallerJester35 Same here. My 8350 is doing great. Never had an issue.
Just bought FX 8370 for 2 free games from AMD, and it run my favorite game (The only reason i bought fx), The Witcher 3, flawlessly with RX 580. Solid 60-70 FPS.
I have a 8320 at the same 4.2 ghz clock speed with 8gb hyperx RAM and a fury nitro (OC to 1160/500). I play bf1 and let me tell you, the cpu heavily bottlenecks even a fury, especially in conquest. I had an r9 380 2gb before that, and the fury brought very little improvement (at the same settings) albeit being a much faster card. Guess it's time to upgrade for me.
Same here. I use a 8370e @4.7GHZ and I'm getting higher FPS than jz. Something is definitely wrong with his video. I have some videos that I recorded sometime ago if you want to check...But even If I increase graphic settings I still get really nice FPS.
Higher clockspeed and probably higher RAM speed. 1070 in this video can't reach it's maximum potential. Framerate is being limited by the cpu. And both higher clockspeed and RAM speed alleviate the bottleneck.
I had that same issue were the PC would turn off and not turn on without turning the PSU off then on again, just like you had. I found out it was my BIOS setting the CPU to a setting where the voltage was too low for the CPU at its overclock. This was with a ASUS Mobo and a Ryzen 3 1300x.
Great video!!!!! what is that case?
I'm still running an 8300 with zero problems and all games at max settings (1080p 60fps). It's a great budget CPU.
This is why you don't cheap out on your power supplies! In my experience, its one of the most commonly failing parts.
Michiel Haisma CM V650 is NOT a cheap unit. Probably he has a faulty one. I have a lower tier G550M and it is perfect
Yeah, I'm not a fan of PowerCooler, Thermaltake, EVGA, Rosewill... they are cheaply made and it's reflected in the price. FSP/Sparkle and Corsair, those are the only brands I'll touch simply because I've experienced their build quality. Second to none. FSP is cheap, comparatively, because they don't advertise. I still have my old Thermaltake 430w PSU (it shit a brick and died, though, of course) and FSP 400w PSU. The FSP wouldn't even get lukewarm where the Thermaltake would get hot AND the FSP feels like it has a brick in it while the Thermaltake feels hollow. It's safe to say that you can practically judge a PSU's quality simply by the weight. If it doesn't make you say "wow, that's heavy" when you pick it up, it doesn't go in anything I build.
JustAGuy what are your opinions on silverstone?
EVGA makes some of the best power supplies on the planet... what are you talking about?
evga are not very good psus, i had one explode a few years ago at launch of the fx
What camera u use FOR THIS vídeo at the beginning while saying about prices and stuff? 1 day later i noticed it's 4K wow
Late to the party but thanks for making this video. I've been looking at upgrading my own fathers PC from a Phenom II 955 to a 8350 and was curious the improvement he'd see.
Aren't the instructions per clock constant? Overclocking just increases the ticks per second and therefore the overall instructions per second, right?
YiamiYo exactly my thought
he said the wrong thing but you get what he meant
he meant single thread performance, IPC stays the same you're right
Still means that the instructions per clock are pretty terrible on these FX chips, if you look at passmark you will find scores of around 1500 for single clock performance. As a comparison; a 4790k has a single core score of 2500. This is what Jay means with bad single core performance, sure you can OC the FX sometimes to around 5Ghz, but because the instructions per clock are so bad, the single core performance is still very bad.
IPC depend on type of instructions. It's not same for all of them. Also depend on type of data and how work is distributed.
Just score of benchmark don't tell shit about architecture IPC
And about performance and score. Higher IPC(same clock) doesn't mean better performance. As it again depend on instrucions, type of data and work distribution. And with benchmarks all chips have some specialized circuit for like decoding video ect. and that can effect benchmarks scores.
real question is... since the FX is so cheap...would it be worth upgrading an old phenom to an FX to get a little bit more use out of an old PC?
You could also get a Phenom II X6 1035T, 1045T, 1055T or 1065T on ebay. These are 6-cores with 6 floating-point units unlike the fx8350 that only has 4.
cwli1 the 8350 dont have 4 cores it has 8 cores, pls take more info when you try to help People
Lol, the phenom (depending which one) has better IPC than FX.
I had a PC powered by 1100t back then. It was better than any FX available, there was no possible upgrade in AMD line.
I did this to get a little more power out of my old build. I went from a Phenom 965 x4 to the FX8350 and it definitely gave the system quite a nice bump in power. It was a cheap and easy upgrade for an old system.
I remember you from Scrap Wars. Instant sub.
Good Work!
Hey Jay, could you do videos to show how to troubleshoot problems rigs? Like symptoms and what their likely causes are, and how to tackle them. Watching how you went about troubleshooting here made me feel a tinge of nostalgia and dread as I went through something similar some months back, not knowing what was the faulty component.
I've been gaming on a overclocked fx 8350 for years. With aio watercooling it never crashed. I've just upgraded to ryzen 7, but not because The fx couldn't keep up With games. Those were some really strange tests you were doing there.
Good to hear man. I've just bought an 8350 to build a sub £500 system for work and gaming and most of the reviews are pretty good. Ok I know it's old tech. But should be perfectly fine for what I need it for.
Whoopee dee f&%kin' doo for you! Would you like a medal to go with that?
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Not "strange tests"... stupid tests! He actually didn't "test" anything. He didn't even tell us what the monitor specs were. This video was a waste of time!
all ppl arguing about ryzen and 8350
And i'm sitting here, with my 8150 fx @ 4ghz with a 970 gtx and beeing happy. It runs all i need atm. don't want to upgrade to ryzen for 500 dollars atm nor get a 1080 for 500. maybe next year
Same here. 8350 with gtx 1060 and it runs like a train. I won't be upgrading for several years.
A tip for FX users IN GTA :
Lower settings, INCREASE resolution scale ( i use 1.5 in the advanced video settings below the normal menu)
It's 2023 My FX 6300 black edition still running anything I throw at it 🤘
FX6300 @ 4.32Ghz. 16GB DDR3 1866mhz with a 4GB Radeon 380. Still works fine for most modern game , you won't max out everything but can fiddle with the extra to make it look somewhat easy on the eyes. Still waiting on what to buy for my next build.
ShikiKaze are you water cooling that 6 core or air cooling?
Air cooled( Hyper 212+) my case is a neutered Antec 300-2 case cut up for HAF. Stock the case has 5 fan, I cut out the case to make room for 8 fans and weld some mounting brackets for my HDDs and SSD. Runs around 45C-50C which is fine imo. I've seen it burn hotter than that without an issue.
ShikiKaze I built my 6300 rig 2 years ago and paired with a gtx 750 ti and still pleased just fine with it though I'm still working on just the right overclock.
ShikiKaze With that kind of clock speed I'm kinda surprised that it isn't on water cooling.
nicholas johnson In my personal opinion the gtx750Ti is probably the best card to pair with the FX-6300. Medium settings are the highest I can run my games. Anything higher than medium and it crashes the game.
FX is fine in my Opinion, you get a good CPU for the money. I run my system with the FX 8350 and with the R9 390. I can play PUBG very fine and i overclocked it just a bit on 4.2 GHz. So in my Opinion its still worth buying one if you dont have to much money to spend on it.
honestly a person could easily buy a used i72600k and mobo for the same price as a new 8350/70....and that would be much better than the fx chip.
I can run pubg like 60fps with fx 6300 and r9 380 4gb
why do people even mention these easy ass games like pubg,fortnite..only thing running them trash cans of a game is popularity(by kids)..these arent a good benchmark of games..dip in planetside2 ..come back here and tell me your experience.
@@GhostCreeper PUBG was really unoptimized last year, that's why.
Cpu needed more voltage for the overclock
I have FX-8320 and GTX 980Ti and run almost every game in "high" .. No lag at all.. Love it!
As a guy that still uses Pentium G2020 on integrated graphics for gaming (I play LoL and CSGO), something as an Amd FX would be a great update :D
You would honestly be better off with an Intel if you play source games because of the single core performance. Though if you go for a Ryzen cpu the story changes.
/ void / exactly! But one has to admit that - stepping up from a G2020 - even a FX series CPU would be great :D
Nedim Lapo No it wouldn't, because AMD CPUs don't have integrated graphics
Yeah, he should get the most powerful APU.
To be fair the biggest(practically only) source of single core perf. comes from the high clock speeds. If building a new build with new parts, Ryzen CPUs are worth considering. Used parts? Definitely Intel for gaming.
Right now i'm running an fx 8370 4.5Ghz and a 1070 strix , slight bottleneck here and there but i think its a solid experience for now. Even runs all of the basic vive games with zero stuttering :o
shame 60$ i3's crush it :/
John Ryder they really do, amd fx 8300 is the only decent FX and is $150, for that money you could have gotten an Intel Core i3 8350k.
rx 480 bottle necks the fx 8350 i have tons of proof in my vids
totally depends . If he is playing 4K, max settings the 1070 is actually bottlenecking the CPU. But if he is playing at 1080 high.... Yeah the CPU is a big bottleneck .
I also had an fx and switched to an 6700K.
That Bottleneck is what made me stay with the 1060. I have an FX-8300...
Are the 6300 and 8300 an improvement over the 4300 excluding core count, 4 cores are working really well for what I need.
i got an phenom II x 4 -965 4.3ghz -- GTX 760 192-bit 3gig ram --- 8 gigs memory ddr2-6400 i can run most modern games from 2017 till 2020 April 9 at high settings some at medium if i do online very pleased with this CPU
It performs way better than a console. I feel it's worth it
Even a FX 6350 can outperform a console...
I don't think so about that as i have no idea about Scorpio's specs, and i didn't even get into the trouble to search and find differences between the two consoles. But even this old PC CPU can outperform a console.
I have an old Phenom II X6 1090T + GTX 670 and still out performs my PS4 LOL!
you got an insta-like for that t-shirt
awesome tech video and goonies t shirt = winning combination!
I am still running FX6350, and its still great, can play nearly all new games maxed on 1080p and does "good enough" rendering speed for videos. Looking at the current CPU's and the prices to make a worthwile upgrade I am waiting for 1 or more generations to upgrade. Main factor is probably that not only I need new CPU and MOBO but also a DDR4 ram.
I sold my FX 8350 for an R5 1600. It was a nice and some may even say a needed upgrade. But I really wish I would've bought an HTC Vive and upgraded to Ryzen later as VR is currently GPU bound.
I couldn't get my 8320 to run my Oculus though I do have a Skylake HTPC that could so I only tried a couple hours and said not worth the fuss. Basically my Asus 970 M5A97 R2.0 motherboard's USB 3.0 were not supported by the Oculus and following online instructions on removing an explicit block from a config file and updating the bios and drivers did not fix it.
dragonhead29 that certainly sounds like a lot of fuss.
Robo Recall and Arizona Sunshine are both pretty awesome. You're not going to get hundreds of hours out of them but they are a lot of fun and pretty damn cool with Oculus touch. I'd say wait for gen 2 at this point; they really need to increase the pixel density and reduce the pixel spacing but I enjoy my Rift.
Dizzy Gear, you're joking right? If anything, everything's the opposite of what you said. 😄
Dizzy Gear You've clearly never felt the joy of replaying Metal Gear Solid 3 in 3D. Though I do agree that VR is kinda bleh. I'm hoping that AR catches on, though. If they do it right, AR could replace your TV, monitor, etc.
I have a AMD FX 6300 with 4.1GHZ turboboost and a gtx 750ti and I think it is a pretty good combo I did not experience a game under 50 fps.
Same here
Stef Kraaijeveld you can push 4.4-4.8 GHz (4.4 for me) with a decent air cooler.
for 900p is fine, 1080p is too much for 750Ti already
I have similar, but instead of the the fx6300 I have a fx 9590 and I get very smooth fps.
This was extremely helpful. Everything in my pc is 10 yrs old. So mother board needs am3+. Is got a fx 4100. Now I know I can upgrade cpu and gpu.
I used the FX-6300 and ended up going to the 8350 watercooled, and enjoyed the upgrade. all on sale w/wraith coolers for my shelf just in case.
Got a 8350 and a 1060. The 8350 struggles hard under heavy cpu based game but its still a really decent chip for the price ! My only problem is they heat up quicker then a virgin at a strip club and living in a place like Spain its pretty impossible to overclock without watercooling, even the hyper 212 evo struggles.
Same and I'm not looking to upgrade at all yet, 150+ fps in...fps..games (ultra), MMOs are the hardest imo at like 80-90 fps (low on all) However I don't live in a warm country like Spain so I'm always around 50C (under load) with stockcooler (amd wrath)
iciboy9 I'm using my 8350 with a 1070 and it's bottleneck my 1070. Still a good cpu thoufh
iciboy9 i have the 8320 and the old hyper 212+, and same is very hot, the sad solution is turn off the auto overclocking that the mobo (a gigabyte) has enable by default, and now it dont get more than 50C on full use.
Decent chip? I can't run fcking starbound or garrys mod on it.
Yeah, I tried using my friend's 1070 with my 8350 and saw virtually no fps improvement over my r9 380...
As someone who owns an 8350 and mods skyrim SE as well as skyrim OG, I find it very hard to believe you couldnt pull 60fps in gta. Did you run vsync on or off? Did you use a frame limiter? You could have decreased the fov and gained some frames as well. I feel like you just did the bare minimum and sold the 83XX series short when i have a gtx 980Ti that can pull more frames than your 1070 then something isnt right bro. Next time be a little more thorough.
I feel the same. I have fx8120 @ 4,5 GHz watercooled, 16 gigs of Kingston Fury 1866Mhz, Msi Armor 1060ti @ 2000 Mhz on gpu and I'm easily making 60-80 fps in maxed out settings on 1080p in GtaV, same framerates with Battlefield 1 on max settings. And it's 1060ti not 1070... Something went wrong i think
Piotr Kowalski 1060ti doesn't exist
Yes, thats a good point :) Why did i put this "ti" its a mystery even for me lol :D
did he mention what drive it was installed on? if it was on a slower drive that could be an issue, I couldn't hit 60fps with the same specs as my friend as I had a slower hard drive
Don't know what kind of drive he's using, but I have my games on HDD only system is on Ssd so that should'nt be an issue, but drivers maybe...
Quick question.....I have a FX-9590 (will be getting a liquid cooler soon) and picked up a 1080ti...is that recomended?
June 2020 and I'm still on an FX-8350 that I got two months after they released in Dec 2012, 32GB and an Vega 56, 1080p on Medium/high settings at 50-60+fps, playing most of these games + War Thunder. That said I'm upgrading in the fall. :D
Actually, in my opinion, AMD FX-Series is pretty decent for almost every game IF... Some want to play only FHD resolution, and on a 60Hz monitor. And I didn't see why should somebody spend a ton of money on a CPU what actually can get Hi FPS if he doesn't have a 120Hz+ display for it. I don't wanna say that go on and buy all de FX CPUs but in my opinion they worth it for FHD Gaming up to 60FPS. Over 35-40 FPS all game is just perfect. And someone who never played something at over 80PFS and will afford his first or second computer throughout the years will be more than happy to play all the new titles at a decent 40+ FPS. And just to be honest, Somebody who has a computer that was a beast at any moment throughout the years, that person will never think about getting under that standard. And will constantly upgrading with the latest parts possible that worth to gulfill his purpose.
@JayzTwoCents My roommate has almost the exact same setup and had the exact same issue when he purchased the EVGA 1070. Cory runs 20 gbs DDR3 1600 memory, an 8350,and a 256 gb SSD.
However, he was using a 650 watt power supply and the system kept crashing to a complete shutdown when he put a load on the system, and it would sometimes just black screen in Fallout 4 and GTA 5. Cory(My Room mate) decided it was a power issue with no real proof and purchased a new 750w EVGA PSU. After swapping the PSU's, has not had any issues and plays GTA 5 and Fallout(150+ mods) with 80+ frames in ultra and Very high Setting(1080p). I would suggest trying this out with at least a 750 watt PSU because I think you might be thoroughly surprised at the difference in performance to what you were getting.
We are still trying to figure out why 650 watts was not enough. We did a wall test and the wattage was 678 watts. I am still boggled by this.
I am using a 8320 with 20gbs of ddr3 1600 and a 960 SSE and I run OK, but the card is showing it's age compared to the 1070. We are a AMD House. My other room mate just upgraded to a Ryzen 1600 and we are all jelly. I feel a upgrade war coming soon.
ArchieVision you definitely do not even need 600w. That just was a cheap bad Chinese no name PSU that probably couldn't even deliver 400w.
@jayztwocents did you ever figure out why it kept shutting off on you? my issue was my northbridge gets way hotter then the fx8350 putting a good fan on it and setting a decent fan curve helped me. (No OC settings )
@JayzTwoCents @1:02 or FX 9590, (Released June 11, 2013 4.7ghz base 5.0ghz boost), late to the party but still true. Still liked and already subbed. Just going through your back catalogue. (P.S. mine runs @ 42ºc/w under load 360 clc and open case, also it's cold where I am)
I have never been so entertained with Your videos. That is how much I liked it. Also, maybe consider filming same test with i7 2600K witch is also 6 + years? P.S. Im using one with GTX 1080 and I have VR.
RP RP Exactely! I even tried to push it further with OC, as it had served well these years and I had nothing to lose. Gues what. Now i run it @ 4,7 24/7. And it does not get very hot. So it definetly has returned its money.
I ditched my FX as soon as Ryzen was available.
Leif Peterson still waiting on my ram but same I got a ryzen CPU and mobo as soon as I could get my hands on one. Still use my FX tho.
the only "problem" I had was that I needed Elgato to exchange my old HD60 Pro for a new one because of incompatible firmware on the old one.
everybody cant do that
Leif Peterson. That is not the point of the video, it is about folks that can't afford the Ryzen and whether or not their system is still worthwhile.
I am on overclock. a lot of these guys still have FX 8320,8350 and others. You can stil use them this is what I am going to do for now. Save for Threadripper and a Amd asrock mb and ddr4. Yes I know your going to have to uprade but I'm thinking three years of 8350 then saved money for Gpu CPU case and Mb. then I am going to custom watercool.
Hence why I have an AIO cooler on my FX 8320. I've been using a very similar system for a few years now. I've been using a GTX 970, and the aforementioned FX 8320. Good, (hot) CPU. It still runs through Esports at highest settings, and almost every modern game at a mix of high to very high settings
I am using fx 8320E Overclocked to 4.0 ghz paired with gigabyte rx 590 8 gb with 16 gb 1600 mhz ram. Last played star wars jedi the fallen order in ultra settings with 65 fps avg. Very much satisfied with fx series. Fx
processors with rx 580 or rx 590 can easily maintain 60 fps in high to ultra settings in all mordern aaa titles even in metro exodus. Very much satisfied with my 7 years old pc rig.. Fx Series Zindabad..❤❤
Thumbs up if your still on FX8350!
NoahThomas29 I’m still on 8370fx need a new pc
Jay the fatality boards on fx mobos (970/990) had really bad vrms and often would die (or throttle the cpu) due to that. The results using aonther mobo, like asus or gigabyte, might have been slightly different.
But it didn't crash after he sawpped the PSU or did it?
pitiful anonymous what motherboard are you using? I have been running an 8320@4.2ghz on a Asus sabertooth 990fx for 3 years with no issues.
Me too, FX-6300 @ 4.5GHz - 1.440V on an ASUS M5A99X EVO R2.0, running for pretty much exactly 3 years now without a problem.
pitiful anonymous I can run my 8350 at 4.8ghz at both 1.35v/1.46v on my 970 board. the fuck you need that thing for
I am running an air-cooled FX-8370 @ 4.58GHz on 1.46v on a Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 and have had zero issues with VRM or socket over-temp. I previously tried running this CPU in a lesser motherboard (ASUS M5A97 EVO) and definitely had overheating issues on the VRM and socket. Adding fans helps a lot but not all motherboards are created equal...
I had the same issue with my old FX system. I also had to upgrade my PSU far higher than it should have had to be. But once I did, I was good to go. And then built a Ryzen 2600 rig shortly after.
well it's summer 2019 and my sons PC had an fx 4350 and I bought a new FX 8350 for $60.00 and installed it in his PC along with an 8gb RX 580. His PC is running all AAA titles at 60 FPS 1080p high settings. It out performs the xbone. Although my pc is a step up from that if all you can afford is that set up you don't "need" anything more it is just a want at that point.. It performs quite well especially considering it's age. You got to respect that.
once ryzen 3 comes .. fx is history!!
Kash TECHFREAK not really
it is already when a g4560 outperforms it, no point in investing into a dead platform, kabylake is still good if you need a cheap pc now
It's already history, the obituary was published in 2011.
some of us dont want to spend money on a new mobo, new RAM and new OS. An 8370 would drop right into the mobo and I would be on my way ( currently running 965 BE in the bedroom computer ) and I run a Skylake i7 build in my studio for work and gaming.
Kash TECHFREAK You could get a 9000 series Fx too. Not sure what wil be the best choice
Why is my 290x with my 8350 at 4.7ghz getting higher frames in GTA than he does with a 1070?
Something is wrong.
Sonny A. Because he has a huge bottleneck, he isn't using all the power of the GPU.
How the fuck does that make sense?
If the CPU can run the game, it can run the game. My 290x (which is similar in speed to a 1070) can run GTA faster than his 1070 there is a problem.
He has an 8320 at 4.5 ghz
290x similar speed to 1070 LUL depending on which game the 1070 has 1.5 to 2 times more power.
That's my exact setup but I haven't tried it out yet!!
August 17, 2020 And still using a FX-6300 with a HD 7950 (both bought early 2013)I only play on 720p. Does everything i need it to do! (:
I have a FX 4100 Quadcore overclocked to 4.2Ghz and its managing in nearly all games i play