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Just a couple of weeks ago I tossed together that same MSI 970A Krait, a FX 8320, 16gb of 2133, a 240gb SSD, 1tb spinner, and a GTX 970 4gb (3.5gb🤔). My 8 year old niece stayed with us for a couple of days and after playing PC games on her cousin's (my 16 year old daughter) awesome gaming rig she was blown away. She only has a Wii at home so it was life changing to play on a PC for the first time! So I went digging around in my workshop and came up with this build for her first gaming PC. It's not a powerhouse by any stretch of the imagination, but it'll run anything she would want to play at medium to low with decent FPS. I used an old Cyber Power windowed case and a couple of independent RGB strips to give it some flair. It all came together perfectly and with her at the house I was able to include her in the building of it. It was so cool to watch her eyes light up when I first told her we were gonna build her a PC and then the excitement of the first power-on was awesome!
My son's get my old stuff. My youngest is rocking my fx 8350 in a m5a99fx pro r2.0 ang gtx 970
That rig is still pretty smokin, some of those 8320s would hit 5GHz on a good water cooler. Mine would do 4.8 for benching and 4.4 daily driver without breaking 60C on a 280mm AIO. I hope when it doesn't cut it anymore she's inspired to build a new one herself!
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@@nebick27 yeah I've moved on to a Ryzen based rig but still have my 8350 and crossfire R9 280x cards sitting in my workshop. I had so many great nights on that thing I can't seem to part with it lol.
@@edfitzgerald4810 yeah I got my 8350 up in that range.... It doubled as a space heater 😂😆😂
Jay: "When this system came out, I had a 580." Me: "That's not too bad... oh, you mean a GEFORCE 580."
GeForce GTX 690 n' 780 ti are, really, good enough. 580 tho... not so much.
I also thought he meant rx 580 at first
@@HDXLH1200YT i'm rocking the RX 580 now :D I scored it for >$200 in Feb 2019 and its still kicking strong!
i think he meant RX580 not an nvidia :)
I am using a GTX 570 1.2GBs till this shortage ends :(
Was using integrated b4 a friend gave me this 570.
Back in my day, "doable" was everything above 20 fps on low settings :))))
above 30+ for me :)))
Lol
Today people are complaining about dropping below 100FPS, LOL! Im completely satisfied with 60, and have never even seen 100 XD
Yeah 30+, I use to play COD4 on a craptastic laptop with an Nvidia 8200m g and an dual core Athlon CPU, was only able to sqeeze 30fps or so with custom configs for lower graphics to improve FPS, some custom server really hammered that laptop lol.
I still remember playing Scrap Mechanic for like 3 months at literally 0,5 fps on integrated graphics in Pentium 640
My experience is that most of the CPUs from the 4th gen intel and similar AMD units will work just fine on modern titles provided you have a GTX 980/ R9 or better GPU. My most "recent" build is a Xeon E5-2678 with an AMD R9 Fury X, it performs better than I expected.
i still have my 4930K with a Fury. Had an E5-1660v2 but screwed that up so back to the 4930K. Have to say though definitely feeling its age even with an SSD
This is a gem. You should do more like this. Lower end builds are what most people can afford nowadays.
I can't believe I considered for a moment to buy it... It's fucking same price it had on release! But used! How come this is a good fiscal decision?
Still using a 1080 Ti
@ Yes it's a pretty bad chip. You can have a better system with Ivy/Sandy/Haswell. What I'm talking about is Jay talking about these older builds, and how they fare today and what remaining value they have. I'm actually using an i3-9100 and a 1650s coming from a 4th gen i5. Still pretty good.
@ Even a Ryzen 3100 destroys this
@SmashStomp Inc Yes but also no. Until a few months ago, I was running an FX-8370. I was told the same thing by loads of people. I bought an Asus Sabertooth FX 990 R2, a Scythe Fuma 2, and overclocked the shit out of it. And you know what? Had I not needed it specifically for VR I'd still be using that as my main rig right now. It was great, and there wasn't much it couldn't handle on high/ultra settings. I still use that as my player 2 machine for that reason. If you want to play VR or steroscopic 3D games with tridef, then yes ryzen is needed. For literally everything else it runs just great. The problem is that FX CPU costs haven't fallen as far as they should have, I'm guessing because they're good for learning overclocking and there aren't a huge amount of them out in the wild now. So ultimately it does make more sense to buy a lower end ryzen chip if you're getting a rig, but if you already have an FX chip you won't need to upgrade anytime soon unless you're playing in VR or 3D.
Old stuff is always fun to play with. "Overclock it like you stole it"
im sure it can hit 6ghz on Enceladus
I do that with things I just bought 😂
Nothin like the smell of burning silicon in the morning....
or do stuff with it that you normally wouldnt do, like pull out ramsticks or gpus mid operation, or run it without coolers, stuff that you wouldnt do with newer gear but you always wanted to see what happens. ive been there, used old core2duos and stuff for that ^^
Yep built friend a computer and he gave me his old set up which was my old set up and on water got to 6.2 on fx8350 but than friend that needed a air cooler ripped cpu out of socket when i had by as just server ha gotta get it back together.
I’m still running my i7 2600 with 16GB RAM, and recently upgraded my GPU to a 1070. I’ve had great results with that upgrade. I just run 1080p, and don’t need peak graphics in every title.
I'm running an I5 3570 w/ an RX 570. It will play lots of games still. I was going to upgrade this year but the shortages.
you are more gpu limited when you are going to a higher resolution and more cpu limited when shooting for higher framerates ( 144,120 etc). I bet you can do 1440p gaming with your setup with the same settings on a lot of titles
Love it dude. Went from 8350 with a 1050 2g to a ryzen 1600af and it helped a decent bit.
@@jasonthirded great point, I’ve been saving up for a 1440p monitor, and just picked one up today.
@@danielramdin9367 Ya that was a highly recommended budget built within the last few years
Genuinely impressed by what these old fx chips can still do.
Its less the CPU and more modern games just do not push the hardware.
I was using a FX 8350 until January of this year when it finally crapped out and it worked just fine. FX got a bad wrap, but for me it worked really well, was a pure workhorse, and lasted a long time.
Got a bad wrap because of it's extremely high power consumption, it's terrible IPC, and because it was amd and back then amd would scale up ancient architectures that couldn't keep up which made performance barely better than last generation, sky high power consumption, and overall bad performance compared to what they were up against. They aren't great, but they are cheap.
same, used the same until like 1month ago, was fine ... ryzen 5 is a different level now tho gotta say
I had x58 until a few months ago... But I ran a xeon in it at 4.4.... it was such an over powered gen.
i was using an a fx 8350 with a gtx 1060 3gb, and i upgraded to a ryzen 2600 a few months after apex legends came out, i must say it was a huge bottleneck in every single game, in apex i got 30 or 40 frames increase if i remember correctly, even in rainbow six siege i got a huge fps increase. Sure it works and you will get 60 fps in most games but anything thats really cpu intensive like battlefield games it just wouldnt run at more than 30 fps even on the older battlefield 1.
wtf.. same thing happened to me, my fx 8350 died this january after serving for like 8 years. beautiful cpu for what it was, but now its down to r3600
I’ve been running an FX-8350 for years now with no issues. Love videos like this Jay!!
I just upgraded a few months ago from my 8350 with 16gb to an R9 5900x with 64gb and the difference in gaming has been amazing. Still the same gtx1080 I got a few years ago but the difference in demanding games is alot better
Same boat lol fx8370 16gb ram and a rx580 on a 1440p lg ultragear and run everything medium to high still..cyberpunk on medium at 47 fps
I actually have 2 of these that I bought when they came out. An 8320 on a gigabyte board with a GTX 950 and an 8350 on an Asus board running a GTX 1060. Both are in a box now, but used them for years and just a few months ago retired them, but hanging on to them just incase.
Thats sweet, I've been running my fx-8350 for years aswell. Good to see people still rocking it!
mobo - 990fxa-uda
cpu - fx-8350
gpu - rx570 8gb
I mean, its not even old... The upgrade every six months meme ended 15 years ago. You can get nearly 10 years or more out of a modern processor.
I'm still on my 8150, 990fx Sabertooth rev.1, a Diamond HD 6970, 1tb WD black spin drive, that I built in 2011 in the CM Storm Trooper case. Runs well enough, but it does take longer to load Rust, than it takes me to die in the game.
Was looking to finally upgrade this last year, while laid off of work. The Casino that I worked at shut down at the beginning of the 'demic. But that has been put on hold due to health issues(3 heart attacks in a week, and diagnosed with a rare disease called 'Wegeners').
Long story short, not too upset that I have to wait a bit longer to upgrade, or load/upload. I'm grateful for the time I have, whether I'm stuck in a load screen, getting murdered for a few pixels of scrap on screen, or having some tea watching the birds and squirrels. I'm happy to have the time.
it may seem stupid, but, try and get a 8350 or 8370 on the cheap, that board CAN clock those things to 4.65ghz with ease, i say this having had 4 of them, just make sure you got a fan blowing over the VRM sinks and you will be good, note: only one of those systems has failed, and that was a psu taking out every other part when it went.. the maker eventually replaced the system with something objectively better they had from when they had considered making custom systems themselves before realizing how big a PITA that could endup being... they tried to get him the same or equal parts and discovered how expensive it was to get ahold of a high end FX board now, they didnt even have any left for RMA stock or the like... the rest of the parts... well... what they sent him was in every way an upgrade... specially once i overclocked it for him.....
This video I've looked forward to for a good while once seeing it uploaded. This hit close to home because my current and previous PC's have FX CPU's in them. Side note, thanks Jay for showing a Wraith Prism CPU cooler installed because that's what is going in my current PC and I had to triple check it could in an AM3/AM3+ socket because my Hyper 212 Evo's fan stopped spinning.
My better rig: FX-8350, XFX RX-570 8GB, 16GB PNY 1800ish DDR3 RAM, motherboard is an Asrock 970 Pro3 R2.0.
Games I've played are Valheim which varied in FPS below and over 60. Fallout 4, it varies all over depending where I am and it's one of the few games that cause my GPU's fans to kick in. Unreal Tournament 2004 usually was over ninety but I do notice a lag spike sometimes when I do a first match. When I played Ancestor's Legacy I originally had it on all ultra which was a bad idea. Temps over ninety and later in matches would have CPU bottlenecking because of too many dead bodies. For the most part it was a steady sixty. I turned down the settings around high and lowered the body count which was fine.
I dig these videos. For a lot of people, this kind of setup is what they can afford. This is encouraging (and also kind of shows how stagnant cpu's really have been for ages).
I built mine in 2014, still have a R9 290 VaporX.
right CPU paired with right GPU u cant lose. Honestly I don't think id by anything new again
They have not been stagnant these last years at all
Ita not due to stagnation, its because no one makes pc games first. Its console than ported to pc. Up until this current gen, most games only utilized 4 cores max. (Normally, 2 being sufficient) cause thats all the consoles had. We are hopefully about to see a HUGE change by this gens end, start of next.
OLD stuff was strong. But consumes too much power. Still with i72600
Ahhhh, Jay's yearly FX system video. These never get old. I've long upgraded, but I still have my old sabertooth 990fx with an 8350 and it still runs great with my original crossfire 280X GPUs.
lol still have the same mobo and 8350 to, great for my 3dprinters etc
I had a similar setup, but with two gtx 1070s
I had the 8320@4.7. With 2 270xs when crossfire works it works good .
Running a similar setup but just with a single 1060. Will probably keep this system till she dies.
I have that still, its sitting in my storage. Sabertooth 990FX and 8350 8gb ddr3 1600.. It doesnt owe me anything I got a lot of usage out of it.
I have been rocking FX-8120 since 2013. Can play most of the games medium to high settings, OC of course, paired with a 1660ti is a stealthy little bastard.
indeed i got FX-8350 but a weak Radeon R7 240
I play with a 1660 Super. The Experience is nice.
Get an 8370 and O.C it, quite the beast! even these days
"reflexes" "grey hair" "stopped playing"
you punch my feels, sir. that's 100% my life.
Jay understands middle-class people like us. thanks jay
This would be middle class if it were a GPU with the same specs.
Middle class = $90k to $500k per year.
Lower middle class = $70k to $90k per year
Lower class = $40k to $70k
Poverty =
@@taekwoncrawfish9418 youre welcome
@@taekwoncrawfish9418 yAh m a iDiOt. mEh iz gud @ spurlin tho
@@taekwoncrawfish9418 yup lower class, not middle class, my bad tnx bro
The new DOOM games still amaze me with how well they run on old hardware & still look absolutely awesome, you don't see that a lot nowadays
yet doom 2016 refuses to run with vulkan on my 1050 ti
@@Fogolol 1050 ti can run Doom2016 wth Vulkan so issues are software related. Not hardware.
to be fair, the environments of the last 2 doom games are very small and often have winding corridors to cull a lot of objects and actors.
Make sure you have updated graphics drivers
@@retro_ed746 yeah i know but the thing is, doom eternal DOES run in vulkan as well as portal 2 so i have no idea what's wrong
(also drivers are updated)
Whenever I upgraded to ryzen 1600 and a gtx 1070 I gave my baby brother my old fx 6300 and rx 480. He has no complaints and games on it pretty regularly.
Running a 6300 with an emergency R9 280X 3 Gigs (the only thing I could get after my old 760 4G died...) and I was able to run CP77 on low at 40-45 FPS stable after the very first update, no issues. I'd like to upgrade, of course, but I love my old FX, it still does things I never thought it could ^_^ Thanks for making that kind of videos
I'm kind of curious what salt of the earth person is selling a lightly used 3070 at msrp. thumbs up to them.
If I got myself a 3080 at msrp, I'd sell my 3070, I got 2 weeks ago, for msrp to someone I knew would appreciate it.
@@mantasvertelka1242 I've seen them on facebook marketplace. They're getting harder to spot
There are still good souls left on this earth unfortunately even 1650 is price at 1000 usd in my country 😔
A big thing with FX is that the 4/8 cores of a 8150/8350 back then wasn't utilized as all games were extremely single threaded and did best on CPUs with high single thread performance.
This is what gave Intel its massive edge over AMD.
But now, with much more of the OS and games optimized to run best at 4-6 threads, FX CPUs do just fine.
They don't let you get the most out of your GPU, but they do let you game at decent framerates at high quality settings.
Though the 8150 was what AMD basically pressed for PS4 and Xbox Ones. So anything around that number/higher would still give solid performance for 1080p games.
@@haxtontemeraire2966 Not even close.
@@mikem9536 it's literally an underclocked 8350 and there's loads of documentation on it on the internet on what's inside a PS4.
@@haxtontemeraire2966 It worse than that, PS4 and Xbox One uses amd jaguar cores. Jaguar cores ipc wise is sightly worse than intel atom baytrail and arm cortex a57 cores.
Jaguar cores were originally designed for netbooks, tablets, and ultrabooks.
If they used piledriver that would be an improvement.
@@haxtontemeraire2966 They is literally loads of documents and interviews from Sony and Microsoft explaining their usage of jaguar cores.
Hey, Jay!
I'm one of the FX survivors! Still rocking a 6300 with a GTX 1060 6gb smoothly! Gonna get a 5600x soon, since i'ts time to let the old CPU rest.
I like some open world games, but with the right settings (most of them on high) I can get 35 to 50-70ish on games like AC Odyssey, RDR2, AC Valhalla, Witcher 3, FarCry 5 (haven't played the sixth yet, gonna wait for the new CPU), but for some very heavy CPU games like TotalWar: Warhammer 2, on big battles, I can get to 10 or lower FPS.
Love these vids. They show how these "obsolete" CPUs still stand a chance on recent games!
Cheers from Brazil
If you want to keep from "overloading" anything.. Use vsync at 60hz or lock your framerate to some low value to give headroom. It makes for a better experience.
I do that in 7 days to die its buttery smooth at 40fps so I jack setting set to 40 works perfect
@@jeffreygrindle6396 I'm sure its consistent and an enjoyable playing experience, but buttery smooth? Nothing is buttery smooth at 40fps 😂
@@ihateeveryone8161 yeah 40 is pretty smooth in 7 days to die? Your pretty good as long as you stay above 30
Jay: "FX-6100 is the oldest CPU I have!"
Me: *Looks at my Phenom II x4 955 BE* - nah, it ain't that old.
Jay: "Remember, when this came out I still had a 580"
Me: *Looks at my GTX 580 struggling with 4K UA-cam * - dude! I still HAVE the damn 580... *cries in poor*
My mobile GTX840M is so bad that barely can handle CSGO at 720p and very low almost around 120 fps.
I wouldn't be surprised if Intel UHD Graphics from Rocket Lake is faster.
I'll never forget my first pc, had a II x3 455 on that thing hahahah
Phenom 2?
I should still have an AMD Opteron somewhere here, dont remember what model though.
I at least have my Core 2 Duo here :o
I still have a running Athlon xp 2800+
I thought my 2600k was old, but *DAAAAAAAAMN*
My FX 4150 is a back up machine, still does everything. Went ryzen 2600 for ddr4 and lower power consumption for encoding.
Yeah, the real amazement from Zen and Zen+ came with how little power it uses. Now, Zen 2 and Zen 3 are something else in terms of performance, too.
I still use the i7 2670qm on my laptop, which i use as a secondary pc
I reinstated my old FX8320e machine for DVD and CD ripping.
When I retired it in 2017 it ran the latest JRPGs wonderfully. The only thing giving me issues was Quake Champions.
Took it out of retirement because getting the parts needed to complete my 5950X build is impossible.
I had a 8350 and I couldn’t stand it anymore. Sometimes my pc wouldn’t boot. Now I have a ryzen 5600x as my main and an intel i3 9100f on my back up pc
@@Sleepymazda999 "Sometimes my pc wouldn’t boot."
Seems like a hardware defect rather than anything to do with the processor, my guy. Take better care of your electronics.
Hey there Jay, Got a Crosshair 5, FX-8350, 16gb Corsair Ram, paired with an XFX RX580 8gb, and a 1tb SP SSD. This thing still cranks out the games, even does WoW decently. Love it.
Great video, Jay! I’m still rocking an FX8320 from when I originally built my rig back in 2014 (I do currently have a 4.2GHz OC) Unfortunately I have not upgraded the GPU yet, even though it’s a GTX 770 from when I originally built it, but it does the job. I did recently upgrade the ram from 8gigs to 16gigs of DDR3, and of course my boot drive is a SATA SSD. Overall, I can still play most modern games at medium-high settings at 1080p, but I’m usually limited by the frame rate. I typically in those situation for games like Sniper Elite 4, Rise of the Tomb Raider, or even Serious Sam 4, I will cap the framerate at 30fps, which sounds sacrilege for PC Gaming, but it works for me right now. I’d rather have a consistent 30fps than variable 40-60fps, and the GPU fans ramping up like crazy. Again, personal preference. My plan is to upgrade just the GPU to something more modern to help extend the life out of my system just a little bit more before a full upgrade at some point.
The AMD FX may be old, but somehow still manages to stick around.
i used to have a 4.6 stable OC on mine, it was paired with an R9 270X and it did me really well until the R9 died for no reason. then i got an RX570 and it kept going, but stutters were more noticeable on higher graphic settings.
@@DGCastell Just sell your bike (the one in your pic) and get a real computer (i5 12600k + 32Gb ram + RTX 3080).
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior nah i'm good for the moment, i plan on upgrading next year though o_o
I had phenom 955 and even overclocked it was stuttering in CS Go. When I switched the CPU to fx8350 it was much much better. I mostly made my Graduation work (3d FPS game in Unreal Engine 4) working on that FX, 16gb of ram and 4gb version of RX570. Good parts and I really didn't want to sell it, but after studies it was only collecting a dust. I sold that CPU and mobo a few months ago and I hope that the new owner is happy with it. 😉
I had an i7 920
How could you sell it :-( ? I bought my FX8350 back in 2012 and it was part of the first computer I built myself. I still use it in my computer I keep in my guest room (which is something like a "2nd office to me") and it reminds it of the good ol' times in its Zalman case :-D Should the computer die I'll definitely keep the CPU... so many good memories...
May I ask what your graduation work was? I am really curious :-)
@@Thomas-lv9se my second pc was a 4770k
Oh the good old 955 hehe
I had a FX8120 at 5.2ghz for years as my main pc.
Was rocking a FX-4300 and RX-570 system until 3 weeks ago - Just updated to Ryzen 5600x, kept the RX-570 GPU and got a 10X CPU performance improvement. Love the old setup, served me well for almost 10 years and expecting the same from my new platform.
Still rocking a FX-6300 and MSI R9 290 4GB VRAM.
fx8350 & rx580 , Linux, 1cpu isolated for ~Crypto Mining VM with 4gpus~
I fps lock casual build/strategy games at 30fps ( avg 30fps , 1% low 30fps)
runs cool and quiet
The way things might advance the next few years between Intel and amd, I'm not confident you'd get 10 years out of a mid range cpu of today
Actually, you could get practically same improvement with fx-8300 for much less money :D 5600x is really bottlenecked by rx570 in gaming.
Great work. Best content I've seen you all do in a long time. Remember that most people do not live in the realm of 12900s and 3090s.
Thanks for bringing up the fx again. Sort of makes my last rig more relevant! My 8350 would consistently boost over 4.5ghz and I'm going to donate it to a friend who builds "charity rigs" for people who can't really afford a current set up
That's awesome
I mean, as someone that used an FX 8320 (Vishera) for 6 years, with a few different GPUs and again for a couple months while my threadripper board was in for repair. The FX processors weren't horrible for gaming, I'd get on average 100 FPS at 1080p, Doom 2016 would hit almost 200 as a peak, but tended to settle at 170, and I was just looking for 60fps back then.
I'm one of the people who tweeted at you that I was running an FX6300. I ran that CPU for 10 years(ish). Willing to bet I could still fire that up if I put my GPU back in. I NEVER had any trouble with that CPU. My GPU was the hold up on playing newer games. Still is right now. I moved to new build using now and AMD 3700X. But still on the 1060 dual GPU.
loved your video! I've got so much old "stuff" lying around.. My old pc my dad now has is an old FX8320 with a single fan AIO, 16gb ram, RX480 gpu and a 500gb ssd. it chugs along nicely for him.
My FX8350 was a beast. Paired with a 970, it played AAA titles all the way up till May 2021 when I got my new system. Still use the 8350 system downstairs to stream games through steam; works great!
Totally, I had a similar system (started with a phenom II x4 but upgraded to an Intel 3770 later) paired with a 970 and it was always fine. Only reason I upgraded: VR. But now my system is total overkill for regular gaming (1080p monitor) :D
@@clouds5 Same, Phenom II X6 + 960 but the only reason I'd ever want to upgrade in the future would be VR
When Jay digs out his oldest CPU - and you realize it is the successor of your newest (and thus, current) CPU. ( Phenom II )
welp.
I wonder what the difference between a FX cpu and a 2500k/2600k from Intel would be like today
@@ScrewFearMe I've built some cheap pcs with both recently and they overall felt about the same when paired with a modern GPU.
@@ShadowGKCP Nice, still have my 2500k
Find a way to get the ryzen 3100 beast of a cpu at the price
another year hell be pulling out the old 32 core threadripper as the oldest thing he has
This is very similar to the situation I was into before I replaced my whole PC about 3 years ago.
Game ran smoothly enough but took forever to load properly.
Still running an 8350 and playing Lost Ark these days... I guess the processor is why I can make and eat a sandwich in the time it takes to load the game.. :D
And here I thought that I was the only one running a low end PC, guess I was wrong. (Gpu GTX 970, CPU FX 6300, ram 12 Gigs, and a sabertooth motherboard)
Jay: "this mid cycle FX Krait board predates XMP/DOCP"
Me "neat" **enables DOCP on a phenom II**
Yeah, I was running an 8370 on my crosshair v formula-z until January this year, and it definitely has DOCP...
XMP was introduced in late 2007 by Intel, it’s been around for a long time
Was going to say the same thing, my previous phenom II 1055t had DOCP and ran the DDR3 sticks just fine at 1600mhz. Can't remember the MoBo, I remember it was an Asus, not sure what chipset.
@@gustavofernandesaltoe1073 really? How? Genuinely curious. My son also has an old 1100t(big brother to 1050) and is running an asus board..m5a99fx pro r2.0 ....and it hates docp or whatever...maybe my sticks only do xmp? Its a gskill f3-1600-c9d-16gxm.....upon looking for the part number it does say "intel xmp ready" doesnt mention amd lol. My bad
965?
I'm still running a Core i5-3570K with a 1050 Ti and it's surprisingly capable. Like you said, no I'm not playing super high end games at ultra settings, but it's still more than capable of anything I'm interested in playing.
rocked an i5-4690 and 1050ti for years. Was a great setup until the cpu cooked itself (started running 90c at idle even when cooled) and started studdering.
Hell yeah I have a i36100 and a gtx 950 and it’s running still.
Me too! Except I have an rx5500xt 8gb the i5 rocks
It's actually just a quality of life thing at this point. Yeah I absolutely agree, in that 900p or 1080p you literally don't need any of the shiny high priced crap people like Linus in particular love showing off. There's literally no need for you to have a Pascal Titan card, or a RTX 3090 or RX 6900XT, or heck even a 5700XT or 2070 Super. You literally *do not need* a 5600x or similar CPU just for running games.
If you look at game reqs like 98% recommend GTX 970 or something like that for 1080p, which means a 6gb 1060, RX 570, 580, 1050ti, GTX 980 is perfectly fine. So is having a Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge quadcore, in fact if you actually have a non-Dell/OEM system and okay VRMs you can just overclock it enough to where any limitations aren't a big deal. This is mostly true for hyperthreading though; I would never recommend an old 4 thread to anyone, even if it still can work fine.
The problem is everything else. It's like asking if you need a m.2 drive. No. I had a HDD boot drive for ages. It's not that atrocious. However, all things add up, which means you probably waste several minutes waiting for system to load, closing down tasks, waiting on things. A 6 or 8 core basically just makes life easier and faster if you're the kinda person like me who leaves a hundred tabs open in firefox. You end up having to micromanage your system a LOT more to extract that extra performance out of an old quadcore.
If you're willing to do that though and keep your system as uncluttered as possible and just overclock it with a somewhat older lower end card, yeah it's fine. In fact I'm expecting my i7 3770k/GTX 980 system to only fall short by mid-2022 and only for turning settings down in a few games. That's a ten year system.
Lastly good choice. Even if it's not highest end Pascal and Ivy Bridge was awesome. True gems of their times that last for ages.
I have a very similar setup with an i7-3770 non-K. It’s an HP SFF prebuilt with a low profile 1050 Ti.
This combined with the fact that GPUs that should cost $500 sells at $1000 where I live is why I'm still on my 4930k with a 1070ti.
I get at least between 60 and 100 fps in most of the games I play.
your gpu is good bro, upgrade the CPU and you'll breath new life into your card
so i made my nephew his first pc last year after upgrading my pc to a ryzen build with a 2080 super and he's running a fx 8350 with a 1070 (overclocked) and the system runs great aside from some minor heat issues that cause system shutdowns rarely. he plays alot of games like vallorant and slipgate maxed out 1080p and the system runs at a solid 60+fps mind you he only plays at 1080p. the biggest reasons i'd upgraded was because i'd switched to 4k and doing alot more cpu bound tasks so i needed more power there. seeing this video gives me hope for the spare fx cpu i have sitting around. keep up the great videos and even the not so great videos jay, love putting your videos on while gaming.
Jay, your daughter deserved that system. She was brilliant in the video and she definitely made the channel money that day. I for one don't begrudge her for a moment that wonderful system. Me personally I'm not running an FX based system. I am however running an old Xeon E5-1650V2 in a 2014 based HPZ420. GPU is an EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW3 that I shoehorned into it a few years ago. I play all my titles at 1440p hence the 1080Ti. Destiny 2 (118FPS), Witcher 3 (80FPS), No Man's Sky (78 FPS), MSFS2020 (42FPS). These are some examples of the titles I play. Everything is usually on high or ultra and for 3D RPG these frame rates are fine for me.
I literally couldn't be any less jealous of her even though I'd love to have 3080ti myself (1080 here). The only thing I was jealous of was Jay having such a great daughter and him building the rig with her together. That's just priceless :)
@@CakePrincessCelestia I totally agree, Jay is obviously a great Dad and he's bringing up great kids. Although I might say his fun really starts after they turn 12.
While I was waiting for my 5900X and other components to come in for my new build, I put the RTX 3080 I got in the NewEgg Shuffle in my old system (4790K etc) running at 4K. It really was OK. Compared to my build when I moved the RTX 3080 over to the new system, there was not much of a difference in gaming. Sure, the new system was quicker with the NVME drive loading and all, and the 5900X runs smoother, but since I was running 4K, it really was the RTX 3080 that made both setups nearly equal in performance. Yes, I know at 1080 and 2K there would be a difference, and my 'low' fps is better with the newer system, but that 4790K was a brute. Oh, I did have ithe 4790K OC'd to 4.6 GHz on all cores, so that helped.
Overall, still glad I did a new build. I just moved my old system (and reinserted the GTX 1660ti back in) down to the FR and hooked it up to the TV.
I just moved from a 4690k to a 5950x and that thing was pegged at 100% as soon as i tried to do anything els while gaming. the 5950x is running a few vms with game servers and plex + streaming and video chatting with friends over discord and i can't even tell when gaming :D
@@robinsandgren1916 yeah that's the real super power of having more cores lol
My daughter just upgrades her FX8370 System. At the end, she was running a 2060 Evo Dual. It handled ray tracing and gave consistently good game play, without CPU hitting more than 50%.
8350, gtx 1050. Loved it. No problems fpr wjat i did. Basic computing and medium gaming. Csgo, RL, Doom eternal, borderlands 3, gta v, L4d, civ 6. Thx for this nostalgic vid. Keep it up!
People holding to a fx system would probably be more interested on how stable it performs @ 30fps on newer aaa games and what settings to lower to achieve 60 fps if possible
Tbh, the FX 6300 is about 12% slower than an AMD 2200G, and the 2200G is capable of playing RDR2 ( which is fairly CPU heavy ) as fast as a lot of video cards will render it.
Realistically, those processors are still fine for modern gaming..
Yeah, it's pushing it to get 60 these days solidly. My son's fx is pushing when doing AC: Odyssey. Usually hits 45 ish stable
@@gwils7879 Not entirely. The issue with FX is single threaded performance, particularly when all cores are being hit at the same time (because of shared registers). While for fully optimized loads it is theoretically only 12% slower than a 2200g, real world difference is much larger. In fact, just last year I had to demote one of my favorite machines of all time, an FX 6300 which overclocked like a beast (4.7GHz on air, 1.39V core), because it's single core performance wasn't enough to keep up anymore. The CPU which replaced it was a 2400g.
My backup pc is an fx 8320 with an rx 570. Plays pretty much anything med to high at 60+ 1080p.
It's much more interesting to see how much they benefit from Vulkan on current games, because they might have an advantage from the extra cores.
i often say it, a CPU is good for 10 years, a GPU is good about 3 to 5 years depending on the titles. good RAM added to an old system can also do miracles, but that is for currently old systems. (going from low end 4 GB total to new and better RAM at 16 or more GB will be faster and cash a lot more of the game if it works that way.)
Your definition of good is going to be way different than most. A modern 200 dollar cpu is going to be many times better than 10 year old cpu.
@@cbrunnem6102 the issue is that a modern CPU will require a modern Motherboard, and modern RAM. a $200 upgrade easily turns into $400 or $500
Kinda disagree... Was using a Core 2 Quad Q6700 from 2007 till 2019... at about 2015, it got really annoying and slow... had to overclock on 1.5V and CPU is still alive to this day lol, I can't begin to even tell you how much of a difference it was when I upgraded...
Its true if u buy the best like 5950x cpu or 5900x that could last very long
@@TheMasterOfSafari speaking from experience, i had a q6600 from 2007 to 2017, and yes it was slow, but mostly since the only RAM i had was 4 GB at 800 MHz. i upgraded to a i3 8100 and indeed it was a ton faster but not in games really, just Editors making major map changes. (Crysis Road Building. went from 30 minutes to apply to 30 seconds.)
in games i had about 60 FPS as usual. i don't have a faster monitor so i don't really need more.
EDIT: new RAM is DDR4 instead of DDR2 and it is now 2400 MHz CL 15.
Hi Jay, I am running on an old PC by today's standards. I am able to play most of the titles that have been released in the past year and also the ones just a few years old. My current set up is: MB: ASUS M5A-99X EVO Rev.2.0, CPU: AMD FX-6100,
Ram: Crucial Ballistix 16g @ 1600mhz,
GPU: MSI AMD RX-580 8g GDDR-5 256bit & supports DX12 and Open GL 4.5,
POS: Thermaltake Smart Pro RGB 750W 80+Bronz.
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Vortex Plus.
This is my one and only gaming rig for now and it plays all the games I love to play just fine. Currently I am playing: Ghost Recon Wild Lands. Some other games it plays really well are: GTA 5, Far Cry 5, Subnautica ,Red Dead 2, Hitman 2 and many other high quality games. So if folks are looking to build a $400-500 dollar gaming Rig, then old hardware still is up to the job. However I think sometimes my GPU is doing a lot of the work. Oh; and for storage I am running a Samsung EVO 500g SSD and 2 WD Black Edition platters one is 2Tb and one is 1Tb :)
My FX is used as a file/media server now. Served me well for many years and still a workhorse.
The DDR3 modules might just be the most expensive part in this setup (with the exception of the GPU of course).
funny thing with bulldozer and whatever the 8350 later one was. they topped out at 1600 (800MHz) for 4 sticks, and some two-stick setups could do 1866 (933MHz) memory, yet 1866 wasn't a given for all kits and CPU combos. it's kind of pointless to go beyond that unless it's under LN2 phase-change or other mods.
I fussed with this FX8350 build for a few months way the hell back in 2014 or so, then gave up and got some CL9-9-9-24 1600 cuz "it worked", lol. it just wasn't worth the grief to get 1866 stable, lol.
@@TEKnowledgy silicon gods absolutely blessed your FX, lol. I could get the thing to run, it would just dump out at random every week or so, and that stopped happening when I backed the memory clock to 1600. core clock on this one was also a bit iffy, 4.2 max P95avx at any voltage, and it wasn't 3delight/RenderMan stable over 4.0GHz anyway, so that's where it ended up. I thought maybe 1866 would work with the lower core clock, yet it did that once every week or so dump, so that was ended back in 2014. 1T or 2T made no difference at all here with, 2 or 4 DIMMs. and FYI, I am typing this on that FX8350, email/UA-cam/etc just doesn't need more, lol.
P.S. also, that extra 200MHz was at best a couple of seconds shaved off 8+ hour long renders, so meh. I have a 3950x doing that now, so frees this comp up for leisure stuff. I have since cap-modded the VRM, I got Vcore and SOC as clean as it can possibly get, and this CPU just won't do it. it's also not worth buying another FX8350/FX8370, that 200MHz is just that lackluster in results.
FX 8320E represent! This guy could OC pretty well and be "viable" for some AAA games easily. Been running it with a 970 for a few years, brought me a lot of fun! :)
FX 8350 here
thats a fairly even combo, nice
And then you change it to literally anything else and see a 30-40% increase of performance
FX 8350 and 980 here lol
Nice! Just put together an 8320E with an R9 280X in a modern Case. Since i am running it with an BQ Pure Rock 2, how much did you overclock it stable, without getting the Mosfets glowing :D? Case is well airflowed, too.
👍 Outstanding Video Jay/Phil/Nick!!!
Besides being fun, the basic tech-info that you all bring up in this vid, and a similar one back in May ("Trying to Play Modern Games on an 8 Year Old PC..." Z97/4770K) is literally priceless!
Great tips and info not only for old-school hardware, but techniques used in these vid's can be useful in many config/generations!
Plus, many of the Comments are great! I scanned over around 70% of the them and it is very evident "old" FX/Intel/Graphics-Card builds is relevant to many (myself included).
"Sick black screen there, bro!"
I was running a 6300 with a GTX 970 for a really long time, it ran fantastic, but I started having some major issues with the FX. The temp sensors in it died as well which was funny to show people since it said it ran at sub ambient temps with a 212 EVO. That system ran great and I played Apex on minimum settings with about 120-130fps, and world of tanks on max settings with 85-90fps iirc. Only upgraded because I just couldn't keep it powered on anymore. Shortly after replacing the cpu, mobo, ram, and psu, the 970 died as well. They lived a long and very useful life!
18:10 Whoa whoa whoa, no no no no no. The memory controller has been on AMD's processors since 2003 with the release of the K8, aka Athlon 64s. And also, that's counterintuitive to the point you're trying to make. If there's memory dropout due to the controller, you want it to be the cheap motherboard you change, not the relatively more expensive CPU, although in this case, both are probably pretty rare finds as new old stock and are probably dirt cheap used.
EDIT: 2003. Intel moved to an imc in 2008. Oops!
2003*
I can remember using the Opteron 140 on the DFI Lanparty 4 motherboards as they were the best bang for buck CPU's at the time. Early 2000's and the mem controller was on the cpu then.
@@Chrispychrispin AMD was absolutely kicking Intel's butt pre Core 2 Duo.
The madness of those who think AMD has never been on top of the CPU space lol.
Was the E8400 which finally got me to jump from AMD's. Just this year gone from a 2500K to the 5600X. Remember the days of unlocking Athlons with pencils!!!
i always liked amd as a tech fan growing up they always looked like they catered to those that liked to TINKER, the e8400 was the ideal gaming chip of the time, the e8500 even greater for its OC potential ill never forget the maxishine e8500 OC 9800gtx tri sli build vs intel extreme 9800gx2 quad sli. Then amd launched the phenom II X2 cpus which had boards you could unlock the cpus to quad cores on. I waited for something more affordable/viable than intel extreme cpus or the x58 platform...since ironically most games would recommend a qx6700 as the "recommended CPU' or some other intel extreme cpu. x48 was also a platform i found somewhat expensive vs 780i or 680i. My 2500k system died and i wound up going with a laptop my intel breaks 4ghz in games. I saved until i had seen an other system i could build that offered what the 2500k offered when it launched. So now im with a 5900x. I can play AAA games in 21:9 or on my 16:9 LG, and stream hulu/netflix/yt etc on a 2nd monitor. With no issue. What i like even more with AMD is when the time comes...i can sell my zen3 chip for what its worth at the time. For a future gen APU to run with my b550i pro ax. It supports 3 monitors so i can turn it into a classic/arcade system, or VM for classic/arcade like games. W.O having to completely scrap the old parts or part them out at cost. Whats ironic is i can run off the shelf ram with my 5900x enable xmp be done with it get great single core and multicore performance. SOMEHOW the apus dont have fabric/limits so you can run 5100mhz+ ram speeds with the apus'...or b-die memory etc...which is typically the exact ram people would ideally run with an intel K series cpu. I grew tired of checking my vrm temps/voltage/ram/cpu paste etc with my 2500k once a year or every few months with a benchmark to check temps to "insure" my OC was still stable...i also rarely changed my bios from fear of having to re-set oc/voltages or having changes to these limits after a bios/chipset update. I cant even consider an 5ghz+ AC OC on an itx build for intel or with in the range of a 650w psu and a 250w+ gpu. As far as 12v rail/transient response etc viability. Yet i can push a 5900x or 3950x on an itx amd system with air on a nh-d15 in a tu-150. PPL almost had me duped with the liquidated 10850k prices...then i remembered id probably wind up getting b-die ram....and need/want a psu rating higher than gold....and the COOLING required for a 5.2ghz AC oc. VS the well priced arctic aio with my amd chip in stock. That intel K should stand for kompelled to spend more to min max. I got a 7990 for 300$ as a refurb that lasted years...the second i installed it....i felt KOMPELLED to sell my 2500k and buy a 2600k, or an entirely new HT cpu/platform. But i didnt lol then the 7990 wound up frying after 6 years of solid run and a few re-pastes. I mean 2 gpus 1 pcb a single voltage limit....Path of exile not being duel gpu supported XD as well as varoius games....that single 7970 eventually ran itself out of spec when DUEL- would be enabled. Damn thing was a hoot Fallout 4 with virtual super resolution enabled. On the ol 60hz FHD crap panel asus. AH the good ol days.....now i know ppl with a 10700k...in a lian li 011...FULLY FANNED out with those lian li fans...the bloke spent more on fans than their cpu....they even spent more on their 360mm ROG aio than their CPU....its pretty nuts these days with some ppls builds...me shucks...i went for the panels baby
18:05
The memory controllers haven't been on motherboards since the K8 architecture of Athlon 64 was introduced. Just because a Northbridge chip exists doesn't mean that it contains the memory controllers. All AM2 platforms and beyond use CPU integrated memory controllers, dodgy ram slots on motherboards are more often dodgy slots not dodgy memory controllers.
exactly, thats why phenom ii cpus had both ddr2 and ddr3 controllers onboard, because they were meant to also work on am2+ ddr2 boards
754/939
Yea I remember that being a major selling point for the Athlon 64s, having the integrated memory controller meant 'cheaper boards' (supposed to be anyways) and a massive performance uplift.
@@smartshaded Came here to comment that too :D
@@smartshaded
Yes those are K8 based chipsets.
Awesome video, Jay, its proof that indeed you can have some really decent PCs for a relatively cheap value.
Last year I had a x79 E5 2689 16gb DDR3 PC that cost about 150 USD (Not withstanding the GPU) thanks to not only the parts being cheap but also plenty of discount coupons for the sites I got the parts from, and I had a rather good experience playing modern titles. Currently I moved up to x99 due to work reasons, more cores and what not, but still paid a somewhat low price (320 USD for 18 cores, 32gigs of ram and a motherboard is a win in my book) and even though it is an older platform, the performance I have doing just about everything is so good for my workflow and gaming needs that I see no reason to upgrade until maybe 3 years down the line. (Currently rocking a E5 2696v3, 2080 super and a X99 T8)
I feel that my 3570K+GTX970 is getting old now - but it works perfectly fine for most games. I hope videos like this could calm a few people down in the absolute craze about having to buy new new new new new new all the time.
Nice to see channel as big as Jayz giving good review on FX platform.
I've moved to Ryzen 2700X with GTX 1070 build from FX 8370 with 980Ti but rocked the GTX 970 for the longest.
But still rocking the FX 8320E for my home theatre PC paired with GTX 1060 3gb and my daughter has a blast playing Minecraft. I'm sure it'll play any game that I'll throw at it at playable frame rate :)
This was literally me last year. Gaming on a Core i7 860 (circa 2011?) with a GTX 970 until I upgraded to a 10850k and RTX 3070.
Wow
now that's a huge leap
congrats tho
my first system was a pentium g4400 with a GTX660
a few days ago i changed it for a 10100F, had a 1650S beforehand though, so that's my main system now
I'd take the 860 over the 8350 hands down
@Christopher Mullins... I guess if you want worse performance than its a good buy. You'd need sandy ridge to make a comment like that objectively.
I have a PCI Riva 128 , and a Cirrus Logic 5446 that still do pretty good. The graphics capabilities weren't fully realized in times past.
I'm running an FX 8350, 4.3ghz, 16gb ram @ 1600mhz, GTX 1060 6gb. GTA V gets me 40-50 frames with most of the eye candy maxed out. Sniper Ghost Warrior 3 60+ fps maxed out. Just Cause 3 60+ fps maxed out. Wolfenstein Old Blood and New Order either one at a mix of medium - high settings with 40-50 frames. Everyone who tried to mock me by saying their Sandy or Ivy Bridge was better than my setup has been forced to upgrade, but software's growing ability to fully utilize more and more cores has kept me (barely) in the game.
As someone who rocked FX up to a few years ago and upgraded 3 times from 6300 to 8350, I would not recommend FX for any reason. It wasn't the worst and I enjoyed it while I had it. But it's a dead end for upgrade and you really need a 990 chipset to enjoy the higher end chips. If you have it still then it's not a big deal but no one should start a new build with FX in mind.
I am still using FX 8350 lol It's been fine, could be better. I need a new MOBO before I can upgrade to a new CPU and, honestly, since I built this in 2012, I am in need of everything upgraded :P but mehhh prices
If you can get it for cheap, it's not a bad option. Unfortunately, decent motherboards are too expensive.
To be fair the 8350 is about to be in its 10th year. Works good considering but I see no good reason to pursue that in today's world.
FX is outdated now anyway. Ryzen has better chips for less now but, at the time i built mine it was the best bang for your bug by a huge margin.
@@Vicioussama bruv I feel you on this. Still runnin my 8350 with a hyper 212 cooler. Still playing what I love playing. This is the system I built myself. Maybe it’s the sentimental value that keeps me from upgrading or the 4K price tag of my build lmao who knows dude
This is why I sub to this channel, for the stuff the LTT is too out of touch for. Thank you Jay!
LTT has some wicked videos and I find them entertaining. But DAM! Not in my house. Lol.
Ltt do these vids as well, and stated multiple times old tech works fine.
@Matt Parker even Jayz two cents is usually to extreme for me. I would encourage you to check out Greg Salazar, Dawid Does Tech Stuff and Random Gaming In HD for more layman gaming fun haha they are great channels for the everyday gamer.
I have a fx 8370 on a crosshair v I build years ago. I refreshed the system a bit and my kids play games like like cyber punk and monster hunter with no problem. Keep up the good work jay!
I still have my fx 8350 and gtx 970 build that i still break out and dust off every now and then just for giggles. Its fun to get old systems up and playing again. reminds us of how far we have come in terms of tech but also prices compared lol. great vid.
Unfortunately I've become accustomed to having 1200 things running in the background and alt-tabbing all over the place so I don't think FX would cut it lol
Surprisingly 8 cores handled multitasking better than early i5s, at least according to my buddy with a i5 4670k
calm down tech deals jr lol
Fx 8350 prob has more cores than your current cpu
It would be usable, especially since it DOES have 8 threads. (on the 8xxx)
They use case you are describing is precisely the thing FX was good at.
I used this exact CPU from launch until 2018 all the time OC'ed to 4.0 and cooled by an Corsair A70 with no fans on it and the temps were nice.
It saw 3 GPUs in that time, HD6850, GTX560Ti and a RX470, fun fact both AMD cards died and the 560 still lives and runs to this day.
I came back here just because I stumbled on some earlier videos where you rant against FX series and remembered how you got surprised in here. I finally could upgrade mine to a Ryzen AM4 setup (and my GPU, which was my biggest problem), also got an intel platform with an i3 2100 for free - someone was going to throw it away - which I could upgrade to maybe an i5 or i7 2000 or 3000 series too... And can't still decide whether to sell my FX setup or not, because with some - mostly due to GPU - limitations it did SO WELL along the years and let me play so many games that it kind of makes me sad to sell it, I'm quite attached to that rig. I know this video is 2 years old now, but I think the FX series can still get not so basic gaming done. And mine was throttling hard, which I couldn't figure out why until I repasted my old GPU with the same thermal paste I had on it to find out it acted as an insulator instead of a conductor, but it's the regular kind of stuff you are offered for CPUs here in Buenos Aires, so it didn't cross my mind until it made my GPU temperature worse. Of course I'm never buying that stuff again and gave warning to others. Tested the CPU with new WORKING paste in case I decide to sell it and it's perfectly alive and running as it should, no throttling, all cores up to 3.8 if needed, max temp I think was 56 degrees, stress tests went well, etc... Didn't try to overclock it because ofc now I'm using my new setup, but I will if I decide not to sell it. Regards.
I started with a Best Buy pre-built that had a FX 8310 and a R7 240 GPU. That was about seven years ago. After finding Jay's channel last year, I got into PC modding and, long story short, I've upgraded just about everything except the FX 8310 and motherboard. I have a 1070 that I bought on eBay and it's doing great. Destiny 2 does well and so does FFXIV, but I do go down to 30 fps in the hub cities due to all the players.
A year later but by chance was this a cyberpower
Everyone with ryzen’s laughing at the people who still have FX 😂😂😂😂
Even my budget i5-9400f craps all over fx cpu's.
@@mikem9536 true my 5900x too i upgraded from fx to 5900x
Everyone with FX's laughing at the people who did not invest that money that used to purchase their Ryzen's.
@@mikem9536 I am thinking about building a new Fx6300 system for a file server. They do fine. The I5 maybe faster in games but for alot of the games people play the Fx does fine. Games like WOW does not have any problems with Fx cpu's. It just depends on what games or programs you are running. I can get a Fx6300 plus 16gig of ram and motherboard for $55. It will run fine as a file server for the house.
That’s awesome to see old stuff running so well. It really makes me think about holding on to what I got and not chomping at the bit for the next best thing. What you have in your system right now is more than likely fine if you’re just gaming. Learn how to optimize things on your end and you can have a great experience.
Chrome, Teams and OneDrive and your system is already redlining. He had a wiped, clean install with nothing running. That's not feasible for today unless CSGO is like literally the only thing you do and nothing more.
@@rygull Well, close Chrome while you are playing or at least reduce number of tabs :D
"That's a sick black screen you got therre bro!" As well at the 7 minute mark. You made me laugh with that, Thank you!
I do have an old second sistem based on FX 8350 , Gigabyte FX990-UD5 , 16 gb of G.Skill RAM, Asus RX 480 OC graphics card,
one SATA SSD Samsung 120 gb for windows , another one SSD Patriot 480 gb for games , 2Tb HDD for storage and 750W Antec PSU
and my nephew played on that PC almost everything (shooters and racing i mean) on 1920 X 1080 with satisfying gameplay experience:
Rage 2 , Doom Eternal , Necromunda (2021) , COD BO 3 ,all NFS games untill NFS Heat , all Metro titles ,all Just Cause games, even Cyberpunk , etc , relatively new as titles between 45-140 FPS depending on the title.
Thanks for this video. All the best!
I was lucky enough to score a 3090 last November. At the time I was running my trusty old i7-2600k so I replaced my GTX 980 with the 3090 until I could finally build a new rig.
That old machine was given a totally new lease on life. Suddenly it was running almost any game at 4k max settings 60hz, with all the new Nvidia frills (raytracing, DLSS where needed) working perfectly.
I was so impressed that I seriously considered postponing the new build and just using that 10 year old CPU for another year or two.
I eventually found a couple of games, Control and Cyberpunk, that experienced some CPU bottlenecks at max settings despite overclocking/overvolting as much as I was comfortable with. Those games were still totally playable though.
Sandy and Ivy bridge aged pretty well when overclocked all things considered.
The oldest cpu I have laying around is an Athlon xp 2600+, so this is modern stuff! Ran it with a GTX 260. Great kit!
Thanks for a great video!
I have a 3000+ and i ran it with a FX5200. First PC i built.
I have four 386DX 40Mzh somewhere in my drawer :)
@@merlinwarage That is awesome! My first very own pc was a 286 with Windows 3.1, about 30 years ago... starting to get old :P
I believe it had a turbo button as well!
Ah, my old gaming space heater ❤️ Warming my heart and my room. I have a soft spot for FX chips.
You want a space heater? I have a GTX 260. That has got to be the hottest gpu I have ever seen. It has never failed and yes I still have it.
FX 9370 Black Edition Here...ASUS Sabertooth R2.0, 16GB HyperX Beast 1866MHz...8 years later still running like a Champ with minor Down Time! Just recently replaced Gelid GC-Extreme Compound for Arctic Silver MX-5 in combination with a 480mm Push/Pull on my Corsair H100i Extreme (62C 100% Load, Modern Warfare/WarZone, ~68FPS 2K Res DP, msi 8GB R9-390X OC Edition). :)
I enjoy seeing content like this when it's been so hard to upgrade to these newer Components coming out. ^_^
I have the feeling it's because it's a 6-core, FX was bad for single-core, which most games needed, but they were decent at multi-core, which many games these day need.
That's what AMD back then wanted you to think, but the overall architecture is so bad that even in multi tasks it lays behind the 4c4c models from intel at the time. A 2500k for example is years older than an fx6300 and has 2 threads less but will still be superior most of the time.
What the fx chips had as an advantage was their significant lower price, especially for the Mainboards and a longer lived platform. As well as slightly faster memory capabilities
Also that extra true core is probably helping out a lot vs the 4100
been running this FX-8350 with an RX 580, and getting on average 60+ FPS on MechWarrior 5, also actively played through Monster hunter world in this build with 60-80 FPS. regularly play FF14 with high graphics and particle effects turned on and haven't has an issue. so I agree definitely still viable. But i will say i do have an AIO on my CPU and it does put out heat when playing MHW or MechWarrior 5.
Pretty much the same setup but I have an RX570. I quite happily play MSFS without nticable drops.
What ram? Cause I have a similar build on an Asus msa99x Evo r2.0 32gb
me two for the last 6 yaers no complaints with the BLACK series getting 4.3ghz factory over clock.
I went from a 8350/1070 to a 3700x/3070 , and like a good person passed on my old parts to friend running even more outdated stuff for free.
@@TatsuZZmage 16 GB DDR3
Gave my little brother my old gaming rig for Christmas last year. FX 6300, 16GB of DDR3 1600 RAM, and a RX-460 4GB version. He gets 120fps in CS:GO and Fortnite etc.
Up until 2 years ago I ran an fx-8350 with an rx 580, was able to play csgo at 144fps and almost every other game at 60+fps. Upgraded and gave that motherboard/cpu/ram to a friend, it's still chugging along today.
I was able to play Cyberpunk on a i5-3570 with a GTX 1050 Ti at 1600x900 and got about 30-40fps. Not the greatest fps but it was consistent enough to play the game.
honestly though, if you're gonna do an FX build, I'd shoot for the 8350. His video is an almost worst case scenario.
I spent the last 6 months cpu watching on ebay, 8350 is the only decent FX chip that can be bought at its actual value. TBH though you can get a 3600 for only a little more which is a much better chip, but if that little extra is too much, then an 8350 will do just fine for everything except for VR.
He tried but both of the 8000 series FX chips he has are dead. In my experience (I build PC's every week) those chips die more than any others. They also often have dead memory channels.
I'm rocking an FX-8350, 16GB 1333Mhz with a Gigabyte 1070 OC. It's fantastic at 1080p. So much so, I just bought a 27" 1440p monitor as a step up to see how it goes.
A newer platform is next on my list of upgrades but it's not my priority, so I'll catch up eventually.
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@@AlvinHall84 You may see an improvement going from 1080p to 1440p. The 8350 will definitely be holding your 1070 back at 1080p. 1440p will put more gpu load on it.
i gave my wife my old FX-8350 and amd r9 290x plays all the basic - mid games no issues, she still slaps warzone on medium. its deffo doable still to this day.
Hey Jay, I'm new to computer building and would like to share my current project that I've used to learn on. I've been "rehabbing" and old Dell XPS 600, I bought in 2005, with some mild upgrades in order to use with old games such as Doom 3, FEAR, Halo, and Crysis. Your vids have been extremely helpful in getting this done and I appreciate it. BTW, the games run amazing and I believe this would be a great video you could do, especially in our current climate of parts unavailability!! Also, I've worked hard to keep this project "period specific".
-Dell XPS 600 w/ original motherboard 0GC375
-Microsoft Windows XP 32 bit (light)
-Intel Pentium D 945 on the LGA 775 socket
-A11 bios
-SSD (x2) drive upgrades
-Vantec PCIe USB 3.0 adapter
-Dell Quadro FX 4600 / NVIDIA GTX 7800 x2 in SLI / NVIDIA GTX 280 (I bounce between the 4 cards for fun)
-2 gb DDR2 ram (dual channel) at 800 MHz
-Added fan to tower cooler for CPU
-Multiple case fan additions (above the stock case fans) due to the additional heat generated by the hardware including a PCI slot fan for the GPU
I am able to run MSI Afterburner, FRAPS, CPU-Z, and Macrium Reflect, as well as all my early 2000's games, for the usual bit of fun. I am using the original Dell 2005FPW monitor that came with the system and get a solid 60 FPS on each game.
This has been a lot of fun and I highly recommend for anyone who has old, but nostalgic, hardware.
Yo Jay, really been enjoying your content recently! Built my first PC last week! The vibes and entertainment is just there with your vids! 🙌
I see we're at the "digging parts out of the back of the closet" phase of the hardware shortage now.
Hey man that's important stuff.
Just think and have a moment of silence for all those rigs and GPUs which fell silent over the years.
Now remember that if you have such a back of the closet or garage or whatever, it may suck for new titles, but at least you can put something together to use. That is why you should forego the temptation to sell your last pieces of kit to help pay for the new one. I mean, as 2020 shows, if you aren't a retiree, you're going to need to computer.
I'd consider myself lucky if I had spare parts to fall back to, but alas, I do not ):
i keep all my old hardware if its still working just incase i need it again lol
I have a perfectly serviceable Haswell 4770K and GeForce 960 that I'm going to hold on to til closer to Christmas and try to offer it up for "my tween is a gamer but not worthy of a $2000 system yet help" - can make someone's day with it and probably get $500 for it at this point
@@nutheenderman806 Normally I do, but I like helping my homies out and give them stuff so they can have a half decent system.
This video is actually very relevant to me. I've been using my old FX-6300 and 750 Ti 2 GB for a long time as an HTPC, to mostly play movies, and watch youtube on a 50" TV, and 120" projector screen in my living room. Replaced my 750ti w/ a 980 Ti, w/ the intention of playing one of my fave games GTA V, at 1080p and 60 FPS. I bought the 980 Ti on Ebay for $340 total. It was being sold by a Goodwill charity in Ohio. I considered it a great deal, since the original MSRP for a 980 Ti was $650 (48% more $$$, 6 years ago, in June 2015), and the same card is selling for $500-$750 on amazon. Similarly performing cards like the 1070 Ti ($460 Ebay), 1660 Super ($490 Ebay), 2060 ($490 Ebay), and 5600 XT ($650 Ebay) all currently cost way more than $340. In hindsight, maybe I should've bought a 5700 XT for $500 on Ebay from Russia, but since my TV can't display above 1080p 60 Hz, all the extra frames would be wasted anyway. I appreciate the tip of increasing graphic detail/quality to lower the burden on the CPU. I'm gonna upgrade the cpu to an FX-8350, since it's just $133 used on Newegg atm.
This video is basically me. I built my current PC in preparation for Diablo 3 (Yes 3, not 4) pretty much everything except for the motherboard and CPU have been replaced at this point. I have an i5-2500k with an EVGA 1660 Ti and 16GB of DDR3 @ 1866mhz. I upgraded to the 1660 in 2019 because building an entire new rig wasn't possible but a video card upgrade was. The gameplay here pretty much sums up my experience, depending on the game and the settings I dial in I can get anywhere from a solid 60-144 frames, with certain games causing those hiccups you saw in CS GO because of the CPU. I play at 1440p though instead of 1080p.
Side note; If every developer optimized as well as iD Software, hardware companies would go out of business because we wouldn't have to upgrade as often.
Until recently I was running an i7-2600k overclocked to 4.4ghz with a GTX 1080 and was playing modern-ish games (primarily GTA V, World of Warships, and DCS World) at 1440p with high settings and it was totally workable. Of course now with my 5600x and 3080Ti I can max out the sliders and crank up the AA, but that old setup it was not a potato.
I still use my i7 2700k lol
My 2600k hit 4.4ghz on stock volts. How did yours do?
I still haven't gotten around to see just how far I could push it.
Still using my 2600k @ 4.5 here, with a 1070. It does well enough in Dirt 5 for me at 1080p, though the next game I'm eyeing (DeathLoop) might not cut it
@@sparkyenergia I just wussed out and used the auto oc function of my old Asus motherboard and it was enough for me, so never tried manually overclocking it much.
A GTX 1080 is still fairly high end though. Jay was right when he was talking about "if you have a 980ti you are clearly not poor and you are not suffering." Obviously this is the case if you moved to a 5600x/3080ti even with the shortages.
However, the CPU shows yes Intel actually used to be quite good. So good in fact that you could use a 2000 series a decade later and still mostly be fine overclocking it. It's also something I kind of feel let down about with AMD, because you can't overclock it the way you could with Intel K skus.
if you have problems hooking screen capture or screen capture interfering with benchmarking, I would recommend using another machine to capture with a usb or pcie capture card. I've had great luck with the elgato camlink 4k for that kind of thing, just plug it into the native hdmi (or use a whatever to hdmi adapter), use the other system's monitor as the monitor for your setup.
Get a card with display pass-through. They're meant for streaming a console or other applications where you want low latency from the device you're recording to the display.
I have a very old rig. Still runs. AMD FX 4170 quadcore Black Edition. GA-78LMT-USB3 motherboard. 12 GB Kingston 1333, AMD Radeon FX 260x graphics card, Samsung Pro 120 GB SSD, WD 250GB, WD 500 GB internal ide drives. WD 1 TB, WD 2 TB, WD 4 TB, Seagate 4 TB external IDE drives. Noctua NH-L12 air cooler.
I'm late to this video, but whatever... I'm still rocking an FX as my main rig, and honestly I'm still satisfied with it. Don't get me wrong, I KNOW what I am missing. April of 2020 I built a new system for a friend who was using an ancient Athlon X3 system. He needed to work from home and it was just too slow. Built a Ryzen 5 2600 w/16GB of DDR4-3200, 250GB NVMe SSD, and his room mate gave him his old video card, an R9 280X. Installing windows, office, and all the other programs was amazing. His Athlon II had 8GB DDR2, 5400rpm HD, and HD 4350 gfx card. Needless to say he was thrilled with the new system!
My system is an FX-8350 on a Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3-R5. I don't overclock so the VRMs stay cool enough. In fact I really love the motherboard. Built it maxed out with 32GB DDR3-1866, and have a "meh" video card, R7 360. Have a 240GB 840EVO boot drive, 3 2TB SSDs, and various internal HDDs. I think having 32GB of ram and using the SSDs 99% of the time for what I do keeps it feeling fast enough for me. I really do want to build a new Ryzen system, but I'm so used to buying parts on sale for less than MSRP that I just refuse to pay the current extortion prices for parts. And I'm not even talking about high-end gfx cards. I will buy a low-end new card like a 1650 or 1660 because that is all I need. Until that time comes, long live the FX series! ;-D
p.s. Another reason I love my FX-8350 is that I bought my CPU for $140 on sale, and in the AMD class action settlement I received $127, meaning my FX-8350 cost only $13. That is absolutely the best CPU deal in history!!! How can I NOT love this CPU? ;-)
A new Jay video, new ways to see Jayisms
I'd still love to see Jay's take on Gaming on Linux some day though
For the longest time i ran an fx 9590 alongside a 1080ti in an AsRock 990FX Extreme9 motherboard. i still have the mobo with cpu & memory attached in the box as a backup for if my main system goes down. boy did that cpu run hot, but it got the job done and i never saw it causing any significant problems.
So honestly..please tell me...was it the furnace that so many made it out to be? ( Pistol from Tek Syndicate well over 8 years ago had that same cpu and said it was a hot runner)
@@motoryzen I had a similar setup, same CPU. It was a warm runner, but I kept mine O'clocked at 5ghz on a 240 AIO for like 6 years. Still worked when I sold it, despite being a small space heater, lol. FX single core was garbage...but they weren't that bad.
@@motoryzen been a few years now so i can't remember the exact numbers but definitely, could feel the heat blasting out the back of the pc after that thing had been running for a while. Never saw it negatively impact the admittedly limited performance, and it worked flawlessly to the day it retired, but yeah it was a perfectly viable option if you didn't want to turn the house heating on.....
My wife is still using my 1st gaming rig which is a Phenom II 955 Black and i shoved in a 290X, intel SSD and 16 GB Ram running windows 10 and she loves it. It will run all the games she likes with no issues. Only issue i have found is a hardware concern after i got her a real gaming keyboard. For some reason the pc will not boot correctly with a Corsair K100 plugged in so i have to unplug the keyboard, boot the PC then plug in the keyboard and all is fine. What she does not know is i am building her a new modern Ryzen setup.
I started with a 4 core FX CPU (can't remember model), and upgraded to a FX-8350 when I could. My current PC is an FX-8350, 16 GB (2x8) Corsair Vengeance at 1833 MHz, an MSI R9 290x Lightning, and an MSI 990 board. Excluding SSDs, my computer parts are minimum 8 years old. PC still runs great, plays games at Medium to Med-High settings at 1080p Ultrawide. My CPU will hit 75% usage while gaming a lot, and my GPU VRAM is almost always maxed, but I get good FPS and have only run into a couple of very demanding games I can't play. If I wasn't waiting to upgrade to a new MoBo, RAM, and CPU, I would get another 16 GB of RAM, as with Windows 10, I do nearly max out in a couple games. So hopefully this can give people a rough idea of how these older parts can hold up. As long as you're not being a snob and have to have 1440p, they work great, and I've never really felt like I had to set anything too low, just to be able to play it.
Now I wanna see an old GPU paired with a new CPU.
Why you know 4gbwill probably bottle neck. You just wouldn't