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7 Year Old CPU in 2018? Is it still worth it?
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2018
- Many people have been hanging on to their AMD FX processors for various reasons, but is it finally time to upgrade?
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Hey Jay, I need your help. I have a 2010 Sony Vaio VPCF1390X , 64-bit
Intel (R) core (TM) i7 CPU Q740@1.73GHz
8192MB RAM (8GB)
DirectX version 12
Samsung SSD ToshibaTHNSNC256GBSJ
Nvidia GeForce GT425M
Running windows 10 now
Just now I turned on and I measured the PC temperature with Opolar, it's 120f !!! Scary :( Fan, heat sink, battery have been replaced multiple times by Sony in the past, but still the overheating issue and the annoying noise whenever still there when I turn it on!
Is there a solution for this? While I wait for a super fast customized PC with the fastest and quietest gadgets available. I was waiting for the RTX 2080ti i thought it would be a new start but after watching your 2080 reviews, i lost that hope! I use it for editing only. I never play games or etc. Any suggestions? I need a PC that can last for couple years. Thnx
I had a pc wich was 9 years old But it broke 6 months ago so now im saving For Acer nitro 5
JayzTwoCents hey jay , i think i have a suggestion : a video if amd kaveri is still worth it ?
I got 50-75 FPS on my FX-8350, GTX 960 4GB system on high settings.
"I'm going to talk to you, specifically, long time user of AMD FX" Hey, that's me!
i use fx 6100
i used 4300 for 1,5 years and now have 6350 but im actually happy with it (for now :D)
that was me till a month ago i dropped my 6300 for a 1700x that i got for 160 bucks lucky me
I have an 8350, but I bought it brand new only 2 years ago
Same
As an fx 8350 user. Yes and no. Its cheap . Like a lot cheap. But the age of the chip is really showing now . Those who say fx series sucked. It did not . Trust me
i'm still using mine too, its getting old, but its still reasonably beastly
look at the i3 8350 if you don't mind going to intel. It's about 50% faster with mulithread 30% faster with less cores. a Good upgrade for around the same price. Atleast you can keep the 8350 in your pc build name XD
Yeah, was lucky to find an 8350. Paired with a SSD and it works wonderfully for my intentions. AMD is my favorite to buy. Intel is my favorite to find!
The fx series was shit and it's always been shit.
Just because you're a dumbass and bought a shitty cpu doesn't mean you're not wrong. Even the entry level ryzen cpu's are double the performance of fx.
It sucked compared to Intel chips of the same era. Sandy and Ivy Bridge CPUs ran circles around FX chips in games then, and they still do. You can pair a GTX 1080 with an overclocked 2600k or 3770k, and have no significant bottleneck.
Well, here we are in late 2019 and I'm still playing on a PC with the Fx-8350 @ 4.2 Ghz (liquid cooled ), 16 Gb DDR 3 @ 1866 Mhz , Gigabyte 990 Motherboard and an RX 580 8 Gb video card. This machine still runs everything I play in the way of games, smoothly and graphically nice. I know it's reaching the end of it's useful life, but until there are some worthwhile games done that this PC can't handle, I just don't see the point in changing.
you can easily get it to 4.7ghz just by slightly increasing the voltage, and with bus speed at 250mhz.
@@ADCFproductions I have actually OCd this CPU to 4.9 Ghz stable, but don't really see the point. I use this PC for gaming , and all of the games I play run fine @ 4.2 Ghz.........
@@threeballedtomcat9380 yeah mine stretches a little bit more too but past 4.7 i didn't notice any gains. mine is liquid cooled too :) I'm thinking about changing though because i've been working with 4k footage lately and it's a pain in the ass! Been using it for a few years now and for gaming i never had any problems! unfortunately for my work it's starting to be a little slow :(
Have you played AC odyssey..if yes..how about the FPS?
@@ajikrishna6905 i have not played AC odyssey but i play AC Origins with Very high graphics at constant 60fps, very stable.
I know this is a year old but I'm still using FX now XD
Same. Still have fx6350.
8320 here
8320 paired with a gtx 750 ti here
8350 with rx 580
same. fx6300 750ti.
10:05 No. The CPU makes the draw calls to the GPU, and the GPU outputs the rendered frames to the display. The GPU does not send frames to the CPU for anything.
There are two reasons a CPU can be a bottleneck:
1) The scene complexity prevents it from calculating the required draw calls at a rate equal or above what the GPU can render.
2) The number of draw calls required are too high, due to high overhead (when not using Mantle, DX12, or Vulkan).
The second one is usually the problem, when considering all DX11 or lower games.
And one other thing to consider for the Bulldozer-derived processors is that each module is two integer execution units and only one floating point unit. For integer instructions, they are 8-core chips. For floating point instructions, they are 4-core chips.
Yea I found that a bit silly. There are multiple settings in games you could lower to ease the burden on the cpu and increase your performance here, it wouldn't make it worse by lowering them, as Jay said. Even playing on a 32 player server instead of 64 would help a lot.
thank you!
What would be the problem if the fps stayed the same even at lower settings?
I have no idea what you're saying but I feel like a smarter person from reading it.
@@robertdavidson548: He's saying the CPU runs the game and tells the GPU what to draw, so if the CPU is overloaded with calculating what needs to be drawn, it won't be able to tell the GPU what to draw fast enough to prevent lag. Also, floating point calculations are used for audio-visual tasks, because humans are sensitive enough to notice the jaggedness of sound and graphics that were reconstructed without using very precise numbers with lots of decimal places (think of original NES games), so a CPU's floating-point calculation speed determines its ability to keep the GPU supplied with work to do.
Are you happy? Don't upgrade.
Are you not? Upgrade.
Truth
I'm satisfied with my PC, but I'm perpetually unhappy that I'm getting cuckolded by my gf. Upgrade?
@@surelock3221 UPGRADEEE
Is replacement part still available? Yes: stick to your same old. No: upgrade. That's how I as forced off my athlon into Skylake, just itching to go back to Ryzen >
Fx 8150 4.6ghz it worked i was happy. Upgraded to 6850k doubled my performance across the board. Very 😊
I have the FX 8350 in my pc still.
what gpu? and what fps?
FX8350, Kingston 16gb 1600MHz RAM, HD 7950 gpu here... I uses a Philips 1366 x 768 monitor. Not much problems here on gaming so far... I just play league of legends and pre-2017 games mostly like COD MW series and Mass effect 2 and 3
fx 8350, gtx 1660 ti, 16gb ram and 83 fps at max settings in dirt rally benchmark
Yep. FX8350 in my rig as of 25 October 19. But I have a Ryzen 7 2700X coming, so it won't be long with this rig! It was fun while it lasted yeah?
@@dmmon7398 Jesus Christ you should be getting 200+ with a good processor
-Jayz: advertises a gaming laptop
-Also Jayz: this 7 y/o pc games better than a gaming lalptop, that's depressing...
yeeey
I put my old FX 8350 to use. Downclocked it and used it for a NAS build.
Yeah I turned mines, into a Plex server 😀😁
Cirux321 How did that work, I still have my 8320 hoping to reuse it
Me too NAS and media center stock clocks air cooled
I used mine the same way for some time before buying a dedicated NAS. I am now casually doing dual PC streaming with it.
Me too has a 8350 as a NAS unraid and to warm my room in the winter. Unfortunately my ASRock motherboard is gonna die soon. Bios don't keep any settings every time the power goes out. And yes I have changed the Mobo battery still the same.
I'm still rocking a 2008 AMD Phenom II X4 ^^
Earlier this year I upgraded from a Phenom II X6 1055T to the FX-8350... until the motherboard failed, that was a simple $80 upgrade. Mobo failed and that would be a $70 upgrade. I loved the performance boost, and that I didn't have to buy everything new.
Lol I still have my 1090T kicking around. It does ok for how old it is. Barely can run csgo smoothly at 1080p but hey 720p dream
wat? i have a 1090t and it runs csgo at ~100 fps with a 660 all day on 1080p
me too
I have a 955 Black Edition.. Put a RX570 8 gig in it (doesn't deserve it but had it). Still runs some older titles jist fine
Now we need more Amd FX content for 2019 & 2020.
Im working on a vid rightnow showing how im getting 144fps to this day on Fortnite with an fx8370 OC to 4.3ghz with a GTX1060 on 4k Monitor settings, including Rainbow six siege and many other titles. Idk if i found the secret formula or what but seeing how badly his card performed i want to show everyone how to manage this kind of setup in 2020.
Because of you jayztwocents I built my first computer and it was an AMD fx 8350 and it still runs like dream.
One of my favorite things about your channel is that your camera man talks. Don't see that a lot.
Lol im watching this on an fx 6300
Same. All games look decent but always have dips present all the time. Never stable 60 unless it's a well optimized game.
6300 here as well and same story, good enough but not great anymore.
I am watching this on a FX 8120
Same here lol
Same
Dude, I'm still on a Phenom II. I tried to launch Resident Evil 2 the other day and it wouldn't even load! Lol. It was then I realized it's time for an upgrade. Planning on a Ryzen 3000 build this summer!
Definitely upgrade. It doesnt load though because the game just doesnt support the older processors. Even though they could still work and kick out some performance, the game has chose to not allow it.
If you have an FX 8 core processor , DON'T upgrade. Wait until 2019 - 2020 for the 7nm Ryzen to drop. It's not worth upgrading to Ryzen just yet if gaming is concerned. I had upgrade fever and made a Ryzen 5 1600x build with 3200 MHz RAM but I went back and slapped a Saphire Nitro+ RX 580 8gb in my FX 8350 rig from 2013 and it runs almost every game at ultra settings 1080p 56 -85 fps and 44 - 62 fps at 1440p. I game with a 75hz freesync IPS panel.
Looking back, I wish I never upgraded. I could have gotten away with the rest of this generation comfortably with the FX 8350 and saved my money towards a 7nm upcoming Ryzen 2nd gen chip for future proofing on a budget.
If you have a FX 6300, upgrade to a cheap FX 8xxx processor and overclock it. It will last well into 2020.
Don't forget consoles use AMD jaguar CPU tech that was inferior even at it's launch in 2013. Keep that In mind since developers optimize for consoles in their games, it doesn't take much on the PC side to match this, which is more reason why the FX 8 core processors are still viable today.
Why would you go back? Not understanding the logic here
I'm almost exactly similar to you in specs...FX8350, PowerColor RX 580 8GB Golden Sample with 32GB RAM and running on three 75Hz ultrawide panels (1080p max...I see no reason to go 1440 or 4k). Running AC: Odyssey as its highest demand game and while microstutters are noticeable on the cinematics I see absolutely zero holdback during the game itself. Seems very smooth to me in-game.
I keep flipping back and forth to waiting for the Ryzen 3000 series and dropping the upgrade cash to a 2600X or 2700X build. The upgrade gremlin in me screams to upgrade now but I also want to see what the 3000 series does when it releases. June (or so) is so far away...!!! ;-)
@@XZagatoX I'm not talking about going back, I'm saying don't be quick to upgrade like I did because the FX 8350 is still highly competent at max settings 60 - 80 fps and 7nm Ryzen is around the corner. The jump from FX 8350 to first gen Ryzen is big but NOT big enough to justify a new CPU, MOBO and the then high cost of RAM. 7nm Ryzen is set to be 20 - 30 percent improved single core IPC over 1st gen Ryzen, making my upgrade a waste of money when I could have gotten away another 2 years with my 2013 FX rig. That's what I was trying to get at.
Also an FX 8350 is dirt cheap, so if you're using one of the older Phenom II CPUs or an FX CPU with less cores, than its a really cost effective way to get 8 cores up and running in your CPU. Reason I say this is because you can do more than just gaming on this CPU. In terms of productivity this processor still holds up quite well in its multithreaded performance. What my Phenom II struggled with when mix engineering the 8350 is doing with ease. Like you said right now I'm holding out for Zen 2. I brought this 8350 because I just wanted something to tie me over till I could upgrade fully and was considering building a PC with a 2700x, but then when I saw how well this CPU performed in my music production, I was surprised. It performed way better than I was expecting considering its age and all the bad rep. Right now I am happy with the performance enough that I can wait till the next generation of Ryzen CPUs come out, which will also give me more time to save. At the end of the day anyone who owns this CPU should obviously know its limitations in comparison to today's CPUs, time alone will make that obvious, its a 7 year old architecture. So if you're trying to do like Jay is and try to run everything on Ultra than expect more modern games to struggle a bit more, which you can simply remedy by lowering your settings a little to High or even consider running at 720p. You're still going to have a great looking game. (this is obviously providing you have a Graphics card to match the performance of the cpu). But as you have said and as even Jay has proven you can still run games on Ultra settings in many cases and still get good framerates. Its a shame this processors multi-threaded capabilities never really got the chance to shine till so late in its life cycle, in a way it just shows that the bulldozer architecture even with its faults, may have been ahead of its time.
agreed.
When u r not rich, when u value everything u have bought and take care of it, and when u think practical, then is more than enough worh to keep it as long as it does its job smoothly... and it will as long as it's maintained properly, not only processors.
Ok, but the FX series in general is a stupid waste of money no matter how cheap it was for the time. Would not recommend. 1/10
I agree and I was able to do this for my first gen power hog Intel i7 940 processor as well. LOL
Learn to type, Muslim!
We all cant be youtubers nd get gifted 400 1000 dollar cpus for the hell of it cpus are expensive when u actually work a job
@@sexyallen101 no cpus arnt expensive ryzen 1600 with a x470 motherboard is $160 us now.you get a cpu and motherboard and nvme drive just over $220 i can upgrade to baller status with a 512gb nvme on that $99 for 16gb of ddr4 3200 ram so say $500 with a nice power supply and a case now all brand new not even considering the used market for modern parts i can get cpus for as little as $10 depending on how weak you can put up with. Fx was so bad i get it motherboards the ram and a 8 core for around $50 and built pcs for $150-200 they are throw away garbage by comparison to any intel core line anything or ryzen which is 75% more powerful than any comparable FX chip no matter how hard you overclock it.
I’m still running my AMD FX 8350 Black Edition like a gem
AMEN BROTHER.
8320 lol
@@christianmacapayag6601 same. Been looking at upgrading since Zen 1 thou but I don't wanna
retire this system
Just upgraded from the same this year. For as much crap as people gave it for underperforming compared to Intel, it ran 1440p pretty damn well for years.
8350 with GTX 1060... Can't wait for upgrade to i5 8600k
I'm sticking with my FX CPU for a long time. I just don't care about modern games.
I have an FX6300, 8GB of RAM and a Radeon HD6770 video card.
aaaaaayyyyy fellow FX 6300 user here! xD
I'm still using the GTX 760 4GB OC edition.
9:58 No, that's not how it works, there are a few graphics settings you could lower to ease the burden on the cpu, not to mention that playing on a server with a lower player count would also help quite a lot for those with a less powerful cpu. On another note, reducing background processes is very important with a weak cpu, I would especially turn of anti-virus applications while playing.
No they're correct, it's not genius level knowledge, it's pretty well known. Different effects and settings put more strain on different components, lowering those settings reduces the burden for them. You're the one that needs to learn what they're talking about.
No again you misunderstand. Resolution is graphics card dependant and if your game largely limited by the performance of your graphics card, then reducing the resolution has a big impact on the performance. If you were already cpu limited in that game then reducing the resolution would have little effect.
There are however certain options that rely more on cpu power than gpu, reducing those puts less strain on an already over-burdened cpu, for games like the multiplayer component of BF5, playing on a server with fewer players has a huge impact on cpu performance, physics simulations generally impact the cpu more unless you're running hardware accelerated PhysX, draw distance puts more strain on the cpu, many engines use the cpu for particle effects and so on. So this means if you are cpu limited, reducing specific options WILL increase your performance, not make it worse like Jay said.
That also has nothing to do with why Threadripper is relatively poor in gaming, games just don't use all those threads and coupled with the low clockspeeds, variable latency and scheduling issues, they just don't perform that well, they aren't really meant for gaming, they're Workstation chips. Please stop, you obviously don't actually know anything about the architecture of CPU's or how bottlenecks can shift from one component to another when changing settings in a game.
Sorry, but the only one being ignorant here is you. I never said you'd double your fps by lowering your resolution, I never said that lowering your resolution will always give you an fps boost. Neither did OP. What we've both said is that there are specific settings that can lessen the load on the cpu in particular, resolution isn't one of them, I even listed some settings and effects which can do that. So learn to read and stop being so pig-headed.
Dude, you don't wtf you're talking about, no one said resolution would boost your fps by double, no one said any of the crap you're saying. Some settings have more of effect on the cpu than the gpu, that's what been said, go learn to read.
Lowering shadows distance will do the trick.
I love my FX-8350.
Same! But I do want the extra cores for video editing and CAD
Yes in most games with good gpu get 60+ fps with medium to high settings :)
Yeah mine still kicks ass for me 5 years later
I want to know what program he uses for utilization % because I want to try it for my games.
Christian Gotsch MSI Afterburner
Last week i finally upgraded from the FX 8350 to the Ryzen 7 2700. I am forever an AMD fanboy just because of the fact my 8350 lasted for 6 YEARS and was able to run high end games pretty much until the day i upgraded.
Do you still have that 8350? I'm running a 4300 and it's garbage. Lol
lol sorry nah i passed it on to a friend, guess its time to upgrade man!
guess i'm in the middle with a 6300. it does it's job well as long as your expectations aren't too high
runs minecraft, fortnite, and xbox stream app all well
i have it paired with 8gb of ram and a rx560
I have the same feeling here, i upgraded from the 8350 to R5 1600x. Just because ryzen was the new hype. I really had no use for this upgrade though. My 8350 was just fine. I sold that system for 550$ to a beginner fortnite, cs:go player. Really happy how everything turned out! :)
Well I did the exact same thing, but with Intel i7-2700K (running at 4.5GHz). Had it for 6 years on gaming pc for high end games, until now I upgraded to Ryzen 2700X.
Im still on an fx 6300 and its going just fine
I have a FX-6300 o/c'd at 4100ghz with an o/c'd Geforce 970. Admittedly, this is not my primary gaming rig, but it still performs really well whenever I try it, at least with all the games I play anyway. Actually thinking about picking up a FX-8350 and overclocking it given it's so cheap these days. $65 shipped for a Black Ed. w/Wraith cooler is a really good value for the money.
Doing something similar, have a FX 6100 and about to put in a 8370....they're well studied in terms of overclocking and still great at multicore/non-gaming type tasks, pretty good at gaming with a midrange gpu (RX 590).
Thanks for still making videos about the FX cpus Jay! There's still a lot of us out there using these! I'm still using an FX 8350 overclocked to 4.4ghz paired with an RX 580 gpu and I get over 60fps in most games I play at 1080p high/ultra settings. My fx cpu does struggle in rust where the fps fluctuates a lot, and sometimes I get frame dips into the 30's on beautiful graphics at 1080p. For the games that I normally play I personally do not see a benefit for me to upgrade my cpu for awhile. Especially since I have a 60hz monitor and play most of my games using vsync and can acheive 60fps.
I have an 8350 OC'd to 4.2. What are your current overclock settings?
I have the cpu voltage at 1.35v
Ryzen 5 2600 = $165, MSI PC mate b450 atx = $79.99, Gskill ripjaws V ddr4 3200 = $144 :)
also how much you can overclock relies on what motherboard you have and how much power it can deliver to the cpu. My old am3+ motherboard had a max tdp of 125w and the fx 8350 pulls 125w max. So I couldn't overclock it much or it would crash. I'm now able to hit 4.4ghz because the motherboard I'm now using can deliver up to 140w to the cpu so I was able to squeeze out a little higher overclock.
Have the same rig like yours :) but on ac origins dropped very much in cities from 60 to 30 fps but still playable :)
I had a FX 6300 with HD7950. Now i upgraded Ryzen 5 2600 with GTX 1080Ti. For All FX Users: Upgrade to Ryzen, it‘s totally worth!!!
That's exactly what I currently have. the old ones, I would love an upgrade.
Jeremy Jackson ryzen 5 2600 is the best CPU for that price. Go for it with a GTX 1070/1080 or Vega 56/64. You will be happy for sure
So I have a fx 6300 with rx580, I want to upgrade to a ryzen, do you think I should get a better GPU or my 580 will be fine ?
MrCceessaarriittoo no the RX580 is enough. But you could upgrade your gpu too, its your choice. For Full HD the RX580 is a perfect combination.
i have 2400g :D
10 monts later... im still on my FX8350+GTX 960.... 1080/60 !
About time to get a 3600 once black friday rolls around
@@Sir_punchwood Im considering that but as we say in Spain "la pela es la pela" ( money is money ) or maybe...no money no honey. The point is... its totally possible gaming in a old platform at decent rates. Thanks a lot for your opinion by the way
I am still using an fx 8320 and an r9 380. I think it is about time I upgraded. Just lack the funds
feels
@@FOXGEAR92 built it in like 2015. Ancient by computer standards.
I have the FX8350 and it's 6 years old. It's still great. Yes, it's showing it's age now that I've installed a Ryzen 7 2700X into my son's desktop. It's been reliable and I can play the games I want. I play GTA5. War Thunder on high. Project Cars 2. It renders video in Vegas really well and no problem in Photoshop or GIMP. Yes, I have 32GB of RAM, but after 1 week of using my son's Ryzen I am a little jealous. I still love it.
"If we turn the settings down that's only gonna make it worse". Not necessarily.
There are settings that affect a lot of the CPU performance, most notably shadow draw distance, view distance and level of detail, so turning down those settings will most certainly increase the performance of a CPU-bottlenecked system.
I find with the bulldozer architecture, it's bad at handling shadows. I had an old gaming laptop with a A10 5750 and as long as I keep shadows turned down, I could get a smooth gameplay. My old FX8120 was less affected by it, but it still was noticable.
Shadows will kill FPS.
It may be that shadows ARE extremely taxing on the GPU, showing barely a load on the CPU.. but this is in reference to Intel Core and AMD Ryzen architectures, which have strong IPC. Bulldozer will be destroyed by dynamic shadows, which involve projections and tracing edges.
I was wondering the same damn thing. If you've been holding onto an AMD FX processor, I'm pretty sure it's cheaper to upgrade your GPU, over a motherboard, ram and CPU to get a performance boost considering they are probably still running with a 560ti.
Try using an FX processor. Trust me shadows hit the FX line like a truck.
I will keep my fx 8350 until ddr 5 comes out, always skip a generation
Im rocking a 1,200$ build i got from costco in 1997 its a windows 98 with a 2.1ghz core processors with a floppy drive 1.0
OK.
It's old enough to drink and go to clubs.
Except there were no 2.1 GHz processors in 1997...
@@kumbandit Burn.
fx8350 @4.8ghz formula-z with 16 gigs of ram and a strix 1080. wide 2K monitor
Casual player, tomb raider, pubg, bf, shooters and rally games. Pro tools / music things.
No issues with pro tools or any of my music software.
No issues with daily things.
Some stuttering and fps dips / lag in games, maybe pugb most noticeable,
but not as much that i feel that i absolutely need to upgrade, gaming experience overall still alright.
anyway, i am upgrading to current amd/intel soon just cause i want new things
and the performance, but (newsflash) the FX is not unusable garbage
At 2k gaming the gpu is under more load than the cpu so that cpu is fine
well put!
My old PC that in now my brother's pc has 16 gb ram FX 6300 and a RX 560.
My PC now has a Ryzen 3 1300x and I will get an RTX 2070 when they come out. His pc can play fortnite 60 FPS highest settings reallly good.
I had an fx-6350 @ 4.7ghz (that hyper 212 evo put in that work, even more than rihanna =D ) with 12 gb of ram (3 sticks of 4gb) and a Sapphire r9-280x
-On pubg I was getting a solid 135-144 fps, consistently, no hiccups other than the games' glitches or fuck-ups
-CSGO was running fine. the fps depended on the maps, got between 90ish to 250fps (either way, 60hz monitor so... rip... )
-in Overwatch i DID get a bit of screen tear, but that is because my screen was a 60hz monitor and i was putting out 150-180fps, other than that, ran flawlessly
-good enough fps (forgot the range) on rocket league for me to never notice anything, and im an avid gamer, so i would notice the drop if there ever was one. ran super smooth
- ran all my games at max settings
I had absolutely NO REASON to upgrade (except my 21" 60hz monitor), but I got my shit for free, through a loophole. Now im rocking at i7-8700k @ 5ghz and an msi aeroforce 1080ti (wouldve prefered open shroud instead of blower style beacuse heat dissipation sucks with blower styles, not my choice, but still a 1080ti tho! ) with 32gb of ADATA ram (ram wasnt my choice, but i aint complaining, lolz)
cope
I'm still running the Phenom II X6. You have no idea how long my video render takes.
I so know your pain for I still have my main rig that runs the phenom II X6 with 16GB DDR3 and two HD5970's in crossfire. The CPU seems to bottleneck the heck out of my graphics cards. I get normally pretty crappy FPS on almost any game new or old AAA or Indie. Even though I have another rig with a FX 8150 with 12GB DDR3 and a HD7950.
*Bro voice* Pentium _HT_ !
@@DragonsSlayersGaming I've got 16gb ram too but with the R9 380. Haven't checked benmarks but I imagine the cpu is bottle necking like mad.
@@AfterDark33 haha we all live in the dark ages.
Darshzo I didn't have the best of luck with the R series cards by AMD I'm kinda old school I guess with not wanting to leave the old and dieing ages of the HD series witch was one of my favorites and probably will remain lol. It sucks I know believe me.
I took your advice and upgraded from an FX 9590 to an i9 9900 and from a Titan X (Maxwell) to a 2080ti. 32GB 3200Mhz DDR4, dual 1TB 970 Pro NVMe's, dual 420 loops in push/pull... Also, thanks to watching YOU, I switched everything from flexible to hard tubed. I built it using the Thermaltake The Tower 900 case and built it just like the example on their website. $8,000 later and now it's a conversation piece (fish tank?). Thanks Jay!
FX 8120 Black Edition here with a 1050ti... does most of what I need, but its struggling...
I was using a Phenom II 1100t OC'd to 3.7 paired with GTX580 since 2011. I moved to a GTX970 in 2016, and up until January of this year I was playing GTA5, Fallout 4, Farcry4, Elite Dangerous, Wolfenstein II, and Doom. All set between high/max-ish settings with fairly playable frame rates. I probably could have pulled another year out of it if I really wanted to, but the age was starting to show more, and more with each release.
Granted I wasn't using an FX chip, but being that it was a much older architecture I figured my experience was still kind of relevant.
Hands down the longest I have ever had hardware last me, I actually almost felt bad upgrading. But it was just time to put it out to pasture.
I still have one of those 1100T hex-core chips around, but not in active use. Had a family member using it for years until it just couldn't keep up with modern needs any longer. Now he has a Ryzen 7. :)
My Phenom will be put to use in a HTPC when I upgrade. I'll probably even underclock/undervolt it.
trying to sell it off ?? :-)
Swapped my 3.8 GHz 1090T for a 2700X this year as well. Was a good enough to feed my RX 480 in most of the games that I played, but I needed something better for work.
the amd phenom II 1100t will out perform many fx processors. the phenom II was a excellent architecture of its time.
It's funny how anything less than 60FPS is considered poor nowadays. I got used to playing games at 15FPS or less because I grew up using ancient trash picked hardware. If you want real pain, try playing Doom 2 on a 386, or Quake III Arena on a Socket 7 motherboard. Or even better yet, use an 8088 with EGA to play games designed for 286 and up with VGA. It really makes you appreciate every upgrade.
Maxxarcade get a job
JokeRGBlazE Dude this was 25 years ago LOL. Though I'm glad I'm not a gamer anymore. Saves me a lot of money on video cards and CPU's. This 4790K and GTX 970 will probably last me a while.
Maxxarcade What do you do for a living now?
Ah the memories! I can relate, man.
I can remember playing zork on msdos 6.22
I am currently running the FX 8320 Black Edition with 16gb ram and an RX580 8gb GPU (recently upgraded from HD7970) , runs pretty much any game on ultra and hold its own in high rendering and modeling. This chip is a beast.
Your ''beast'' chip can't even beat the 2600k.
@@basshead. considering that 2600k is 6x the price of an 8320 for only a 10% performance increase, id say the 8320 wins by a long shot
Overclocked 2600k is almost as fast as the Ryzen 1600 in games.
Does it bottleneck? I want upgrade my gtx 950 and I want to know what good gpu would be good for my fx 8320 oc 4.2ghz
@@tgmb9493 depends on what you're doing, in terms of gaming bottlenecking wasn't too apparent, but when it comes to rendering/ 3dmodeling it's definitely a bottleneck, I've upgraded my whole system since this comment so I'm not too sure what current scenarios may be
am running my fx 8350 @ 4.7ghz i have 4k tv ive found that turning down shadows and turning off virtual sync really helps i am playing with sapphire rx580 nitro+ 8gb i can play f1 2019lots of racing games i stick to 60fps and i usually run resolution @ 1440p i am realizing its time 4 upgrade
I’m running an fox 8320 clocked at 4.5 ghz paired with a 1070 still in 2018 and I honestly see no need to upgrade.
what settings are you using? I'm on 4ghz right now
I'm running a stock 8300 with a cheap mobo so I can't OC, with a 1070. I can't play most CPU intensive games. BF5 beta was a nightmare, sitting around 40 fps most of the time with frequent drops into the 30's and random stuttering. Yea I know its beta, but still isn't playable for me.
Deepak Sharma I left the voltage on auto. Actually I left most of the other settings on auto. I changed my memory clock up a bit but that’s really all. I haven’t had any stability issues. It’s not running that hot either on a hyper 212 evo. Have you tried going past 4ghz?
Dan665_ must be a lot to do with the cpu I'm running an i5 3470 with a 1070 and was getting 60-70fps at 1440p
for AAA games you will be fine for a while. but Indie games... not so much
As a proud owner of an FX-9370 system with 32GB of RAM and a GTX 780, I say yes, it still runs fine even in 1440p in games. No overclock. But I will be upgrading to a Ryzen 1800X, as I'm heavily into video editing and production now.
-Pride- shame
Get a 2700x
I wish i had money for 32GB
It was only $300 back in 2013. It is now at least $450. In fact, almost any component of the same level now costs 1.5 times more than it used to be. I'm frightened, because a $1500 PC now costs $2500.
Performance gain not worth the cost difference ($250 VS $320 is 20% in price increase over 10% performance increase at best).
just upgraded from my FX 8350 and r9 290. That system just wouldn't die. "I had to upgrade because of VR" as of last week I'm now rocking a Ryzen 3800x and a 2070.
I still have a 8 year old 1st gen (yes, first generation.) Intel processor
I'm hanging because next year I'll go to college and hence am considering building my own rig afterwards (with my money) and because it worked fine for the past few years, no crazy fast clock speeds but still fine
An intel 4004 from 1971? WOWZA!
First gen of Intel CPU??? or first gen of Intel Core CPU???
obviously he means first intel core cpus. he says 8 years old which was around the release date of the i7 xxx. @@MichaelGGarry
figure your shit out,intel came out 20 yrs ago fool
@@trillrifaxegrindor4411 yeah man, insult some random dude because he wrote "Intel" instead of "Intel Core".
I used to have a fx9590, was great chip with a rx480. worked well with a 144hz gree sync 1080p. Was good for csgo, dota at 144fps and 60+fps all other games
No, it’s not worth it. You can just get a 10 year old CPU and then download more cores and GHz to make it run like new.
Wtf
Don't forget to download more ram! That really helps!!
@@_GRiM1 wtf this is genius
The more you know...
@@_GRiM1 the better
FX user here , 8350 at 4.4ghz cooled by a Kuhler water cooler 31c-48c ! , 8Gig at 1866, GTX760 at 1294mhz. Battlefield 4 65fps 1080p, . Brilliant video!
I have FX-8350 4.8 Ghz - 2400 Mhz ram - 980TI and the best way i found was to play everything at 1440p because at 1080p it was just worse, at 1440p it was not trying to kill the cpu as much and it could keep up more easily I was really happy with the results but it was exactly like the video in some games unused gpu % utilisation raw power that was not accessible so I moved up to R5 3600x now with 2x 980 Ti (one asus one gigabyte) and it's just a dream even with one card it was night and day !!!! I still have the old build it has a sentimental value fx owners would understand.
I still have my AMD FX-8350 Black Edition and I’m probably gonna upgrade soon just too lazy lol
Same thing here
Just wait for Ryzen generation 3 that will be on 7nms. It will offer you a massive performance increase. It's launching next year to so you have plenty of time to save up for it.
Zachary Stevens sound like a plan
Still life left in my 8350
Specter will also be patched on zen 2
I've got an...
- Fx-8350 Black Edition
- MSI Gaming Motherboard 990 FXA
- MSI RX 480 Gaming X 8 Gb
-16 Gb's of Gskill ripjaws
- Cryorig H5 Ultimate
- 850 EVGA PSU
The games I play are Rocket League, Quake Champions, Rainbow 6 Siege, Battlefield 1, Ghost Recon: Wildlands, Destiny 2, Etc.....
For the most part the gaming experience is still pretty smooth for me, it does run hot but the frame rate is normally around in the 70's. I am trying to upgrade soon for the Ryzen 5 2600X (I don't overclock) because it is time.
Maybe upgrade your GPU too, not for performance but for noise and powerconsumption :)
@@Waldherz Yeah I've considered picking up a Vega 56 (I'm an AMD fan) but I'm going to wait and see how the 480 performs with the Ryzen 5 first and if I do see a lack in performance still then yeah. Also I have reapplied thermal paste on the GPU's CPU and I have noticed a better performance for temps, frame rate and sound. Before it would pretty much screech but now it's silent.
The RX 580 (Its just like 10€ more than the 480 and its much better overall) is a pretty damn good card. Its on par with the 1060 overall. Better in some worse in some. Keep that card in mind since Vega is way too expensive rn for what performance it gives you. It also still has driver issues.
@@Sebastianbaraj5 I have an R7 2700x and I can say the difference is big. I also have an RX 480 Sapphire Nitro+ and I can basically play every game at ultra on 1080p, even the new BF5
@@Waldherz to be honest you can overclock your 480 to an 580, I have it a bit higher then a standard 580 on my 480 and have no problems with Temps or whatever, so no need for that extra 10 bucks if you already have an 480
I have a FX-8350 OC'ed to 4.7 Ghz, with a Geforce 1070, 16 GB ram. And I can run 99% of the triple A games max out, getting any where between 45 to 60 fps. I'm not saying that bottleneck isn't relevant, but in real world gaming it still holds up.
I bought my AMD FX-8350 in January 2013. I mounted it on an ASUS M5A99FX Pro R2.0 motherboard with 16 gb of Patriot DDR3 1866/2133 RAM. Air cooled with the stock cooler, and I can't remember what video card I originally had. It failed on me when the PSU crapped out on me. I replaced my PSU and bought a EVGA GTX 950. I was running Ghost Recon Breakpoint on it from closed, NDA required, "stress test," up until I decided that it was finally time to upgrade my system. That happened December 2019 (almost 7 years from time of purchase of the CPU). I used whatever graphics settings it automatically set itself to. I pulled 40-50 fps. Max graphics card usage, and about 70% across all 8 cores of the FX-8350. It ran, and was considered BELOW min specs to play the game (including a copy of those below).
Oh, and I never, NEVER, turned off my system. I just turned my monitor off when I left the house, went to bed, or was otherwise not using my computer for about 99% of those 7 years. And I had sleep mode disabled.
"Ghost Recon Breakpoint Minimum System Requirements
CPU: Intel Core i5 4460, AMD Ryzen 3 1200
RAM: 8GB
HDD: 42GB available hard drive space
GPU: AMD Radeon R9 280X or Nvidia GeForce GTX 960 (4GB VRAM with Shader Model 5.0 or better)
OS: Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8.1, Windows 10 (64-bit versions only)
DirectX: 11
Screen Resolution: 1080p
Network: Broadband Internet connection"
I m still running a core duo e4300 from 2006
Are you Russian because your so poor
@@Gloerillero nah i m italian, i'm waiting for 7nm ryzen 3700x to pair with sli of 2080 ti, in the meantime i game on my aorus x9
@@Archer_Legend big difference tho
that cpu kicked ass
oh snap, I had a core 2 quad q6600 in my server then i bought my friends core i5 (ivybidge) since he was upgrading . That Q6600 was a beast no matter how old it was.
hey Jay ,i'm still FX user ,i'm using FX-8350 with stock speeds ,pared with R9 285 GPU
mostly i'm playing World of tanks ,league of legends and lately for honor
Thanks for reading this :)
i got duel rx 480s for my poor 8350
Yeah, and Intel broke the quad-core barrier, with AMD's stock going from USD $1.5 to $30 in two years just because. FX wasn't selling at bargain prices in its last years, while Ryzen is performing pretty good in sales at higher prices than FX, almost on par with Intel prices. I wonder why that is.
Yeah, you should be fine with your rig for a long time with those titles. World of Tanks, even with the 1.0 update, is still heavily CPU bound. That said, on my Ryzen build, I am getting over 85 FPS with all the settings turned up to ultra. Roll Out!!
Hi Jay, I found your channel while doing research on upgrading and water cooling. Here's my system specs:
FX 8370 (no overclocking)
ASUS Sabertooth 990FX
32 GB Kingston HyperX Savage 1866MHz
EVGA GTX 970 (no overclocking)
OS Drive: Corsair Force GT 120 GB SSD
Apps Drive: WD Black 2TB
Antec SX800 series full tower case
In the last two weeks I have switched to an AIO CPU cooler and a case from this decade. I'm planning on giving my old case, mobo, memory, and GPU to a family member when I upgrade.
Currently playing:
Shadow of the Tomb Raider
WOW
I haven't paid much attention to the FPS counter, so I can't attest to a number, but I can say that I don't feel limited in gameplay.
You should definitely overclock CPU to at least 4.6 GHz (4.6 usually is really easy to get) Max FPS is a lil bit better but fps drops are way less significant and frame rate is much more stable Also make sure you got every "power saving" feature disabled in BIOS proper DRAM timings from XMP profile and proper core voltage value For some reason every build with FX CPU i made had these weird default settings in BIOS like core voltage at 1.45v instead of 1.25v (stock)
-AMD FX 8150 (over clocked to 4.2ghz) w/water cooling
-MSI 970 Gaming Motherboard
- MSI GTX 1660 Super
-Corsair Vengeance LP 16 GB
-EVGA 600w Bronze
I usually get 60+ (sometimes 100+) frames on High to Ultra settings on most games pre-2020 (Rainbow 6, Hunt:Showdown, Overwatch)
It runs pretty well but the processor is definitely showing its age on the newer titles...hoping to upgrade next year.
Yes, still banging it with FX8350. It ain't that bad but def would need an upgrade
Thank you so much for making this video. You're the real MVP. This was exactly what I needed.
Dhanush Arul same this literally is my exact problem rn
@@Osideskyler ikr. For months i was waiting for this. Especially what, with the 9th Gen Intel vs Zen 2 . This is the perfect time to upgrade your PC and this was the perfect vid to watch. Perfect timing.
Now, lets see if we upgrade to the blue side or still red
Personally went from a FX8370 clocked at 4.2, 32gb of memory and a gtx970 to a Ryzen 2700x, 32gb of ddr4 @ 3200, and a RTX2080. Took some time getting the new system stable, but after a lot of tweaking and playing around I am happy with my upgrade. overall 6 years ago I built the FX computer for less then $1200, and this new Ryzen PC cost me (i upgraded and updated everything) well around $3000 (Monitor and TV were also upgraded but not in that price) First time playing around with a RAID as well.
Long story short, this was the right time to upgrade past the FX chips. I was starting to have problems with newer games and with more games in the coming future that i am looking forward to it was needed.
Thank you for the video to help show that this was all worth it ^_^
They answer for me is yes. I built an FX 8150 and 6870 for my buddy in 2011. He upgraded the GPU to an 380 in 2014. Now he is on an RX 590 and his 8150 is still just fine at 60fps 1440p.
Fx-4300, rx 460, 16gb of ram, 350watt PSU, never wanted to run anything and couldn't.
Mainly play overwatch lowest 1080p getting 100fps, and csgo with highest everything and get 150fps
Lukas G playing it safe eh
I still have an fx 8350 with a 970 and it runs everything I throw at it and for 100 bucks around there it's good power at good price plus am3+ mobos are cheap I'll recommend a fx on a super budget build any day
Last day of rocking a FX 6300 and Gtx 970! It did me well for the past 4 years. Now moving on to a R5 3600x and Rtx 2060 🙏
Thanks Jay! Coming from an OCd FX-8150 @ 5.5 GHz and finally starting to see it's age. FXs were great for their time, and the fact that you can get a FX-9590 for $150 right now is bonkers to me when I think back to that as being the holy grail of FX CPUs.
Glad I stretched my FX for everything it had though, because I'm about to dive into this 3900X + 5700XT overclocking mess face first.
Memory is the main reason I haven't upgraded my FX-8320
Totally, I get it, I was fortunate to get 16 gig of 3200mhz ddr4 rams and one month old r1600x on a fairly good discount so I thought, why not and make the jump.
Same
I have a fx9590 @4.7 with two r9 380xs (in crossfire of corse) still does fine in reasonable games (around 60fps with two 24inch 1080p moniters) and CPU is almost never maxed out. I think they are holding up fine!
so your room is a sauna?
But whats the temp and noise levels?
L-A Shithad OMG how much power does that draw?
I heard overclocking the HT Link helps immensely, so maybe try that as well?
same, i use it as an a/c in the winter though
2019. Still holding out. Running an FX8350, 16gb of DDR3 1600, a GTX 660 3gb video card. Still playing new games reasonably decent. Built this 5+ years ago, after parts came down in price. Paid $200 for the processor. I think I've gotten my moneys worth so far.
9:58 The CPU sends the GPU draw calls to render images. So you should think of it more the CPU feeds the GPU, not the GPU feeding the CPU frames. But I get what you were trying to say.
Still threw you a thumbs up J. =)
fx6350
rx480 8gb
12gb ram
asus m5a99fx pro 2.0
750w psi
i usually play games like borderlands, saints tow, war thunder, tomb raider, far cry, bioshock. metro series. i play them all at max settings at 1080p and get 45-70 fps
Justin Chan If you had Intel/Ryzen you'd get 90 fps...
at least we don't have an xbone
45fps is shit bro.
@@samithonjames370 not shit if he enjoys the game. FPS doesnt always equal happiness with a system or game.
@@samithonjames370 maybe to you but maybe he's ok with it is he you no does his gameplay affecting you no is 45 the minimum yes
If you have a FX 8320 or FX 8350 I highly recommend waiting tell Ryzen generation 3 on 7nms. It will give you the best performance per dollar and a true massive upgrade. For anyone new to PC gaming looking for a budget PC build dont waste your time on the FX Processors. Just go with the current Ryzen 3 or 5 series CPU's. Yeah it might be more expensive but nothing beats a future proof product with greater performance all around.
Actually better yet, wait for DDR5 that will come around 2020 or 2021, and by then the Ryzen will really mature with it's architecture(s), and hopefully AMD GPUs will get at least close to Nvidia's for only the part of the price (like they did with intel), and then you can make a really damn good PC for really cheap... Doesn't even have to be a DDR5 system, just that it will make DDR4 prices really drop (and damn, they really need dropping...)
Case: Rosewill Tyrfing
OS: Windows 10 Pro 64bit
Processor: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz
Graphics: Gigabyte Radeon RX 560-4GB OC
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 R2 Micro ATX
RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3-1600MHz
SSD: Kingston-A400 120GB
HDD: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM
Power Supply: Rosewill Lepton 500W 80+ Gold
I play BO4, Destiny 2, Dishonored 2, and a good bit of other similar intensive games. Mostly sticking to a mix of medium to high settings and rarely dip under 60fps even while streaming.
Edit: I see a lot of people talking about having built their FX series builds years ago. I built this less than 2 months ago and its handling every game ive thrown at it while streaming. This was entirely a budget build being only about $500, hard to beat for that price though unless you live near a MicroCenter.
I'm rocking the 8350, best CPU I've ever had, still going strong! Using Unity, 3D Max, Blender, Photoshop Z brush and Premiere Pro - no hick ups, smooth performance!
Still rocking that FX-6300 with a GTX 1050 ti. I can't wait to upgrade but it's still serving me well. A lot of gaming is still possible as long as you don't mind compromising on the settings, and if you don't mind gaming between 30-60fps. Thanks for the great content :)
If you bought Intel you would be gaming at 60fps+ lol.
Im still on my fx6300 with a gtx 760...
Gonna upgrade to 2700x and 1080ti or 2080 at the start of next months, about time if you ask me
Jdlewis79uk Used to have a 6300 but couldn’t stand the stuttering issues I had with it on newer games.
What, i have a fx8320e and a 1050ti and i play almost all games at 144fps even with high settings...
I run a FX8320 at 4,5GHz on an Enerrmax Liqmax II cooler an also a Gigabyte GTX 770 Windforce Edition and 16GB od silly 1333Mhz DDR3 ram. But it runs butter smooth when playing BF4 at 1080p at 144Hz with avg 164 fps . FX series will become a legend some day ;)
I have the fx-8150 and a gtx970 bought second hand and in my opinion its still good for pretty much any game.
I ran an i5-750, Gigabyte P55-USB3 (both bought in 2009 if I remember correctly) and an R9 290 OC until last week until the mobo died. Performed like a boss.
I've been using my FX-8370 since 2012. Unless I want to keep up with the new game being released I dont see the need of upgrading. I only upgrade when my system dies.
What a lie. The 8370 came out in 2014.
AMD Phenom II X4 840 3,4 GHz + MSI GTX 650 Ti Boost Edition + 8GB Ram DDR3 1333 MHz
Yes i know... IT hurts on modern AAA games. Usually between 20 to 40 pfs 1080p on lowest possibile settings
I had an Phenom II 955 BE that ran at 3.7Ghz until 2014 when I built my current one, paired with 16GB and a pair of 5770's in Xfire, that was an awesome rig... I just sold the MB and CPU to a friend for a workshop PC in his garage for £30.
That's just that 650Ti, man. I've got a mate running a 4Ghz Phenom II with a 290X and it goes great.
I'm using the FX on drugs. They call it Ryzen 5 1600x but whatever
Ryzen is so much better I'm happy i ditched my 8320 for a r5 1600. I didn't know how slow it really was till a upgraded.
i went from a 8320 to ryzen 7 1800x so much better
I made the jump from the FX6300 to a R5 1600 that I OC'ed to 4GHz and as you've said I didnt realize that it was that big of a difference :D
My old CPU is a A8-7600, now i have a Ryzen 5 1600X and that's so better. I am so happy
I luv that cpu ^^
Cheap,strong,overclockable
AMD 8320e (8 Core Processor)
Gigabyte 970 SLI Ready G1 Gaming Motherboard
GeForce GTX 1050ti
Cosair Vengeance (16GB DDR3)
860 Evo Samsung SSD (500GB)
1TB Crucial NVME M.2 Storage
Western Digital (500GB HDD)
I can play modern warfare, COD Cold War, Apex Legends, Fortnite, R6 all at low to medium settings. I get 60 frames per second and the games all are fairly playable. I built my system in 2016 (which on a budget overall) did not leave me with part to price decisions. I do see system performance being bottlenecked when playing any latest title as ones mentioned above. Overall it's ultimately lessons learned from my first build in comparison to my next build (still to be determined) With what I got out of it for the price and giving it's longevity for what it's worth I got my money out of my current system. I'm ready to upgrade in the near future and looking for better performance as I'd like to upgrade my system to a more high end gaming/streaming setup I'm looking to spend $1500-$1800 dollars and am open to suggestions on my future build. With this being said with the demand of parts being so great and the price inflammation on parts due to high demand, my guess is that my next goal for my next build is to have the parts and hardware to be ready to build within the next 6-8 months (part availability could still very by that time) but hopefully should more parts become readily available and more easier to get your hands on. I'm more than willing and able to do more research and comparisons on hardware that will fit my end goal and achieve the system performance that I would like. Jay thank you so much for your videos I know this one is a bit older now that we've turned our calendars to 2021. But I just wanted to take a moment and say how much I appreciate your hard work and dedication to your audience. You have a nice touch technically as well as professionally with your videos, keeping the novice to a more intermediate to experienced PC builder informed on your recommendations when parts are chosen and applied to your expertise. Thank you sir! May you and your family have a safe and happy 2021. Cheers to me meeting my end goal in building a PC in the very near future.
I just upgraded from a 3770k (2012) to an 8700K. Which was 6 1/2 years old and it still worked great.
I held out with a Phenom 2 X6 1045T. RIP my Phenom 2 X 6.
I finally gave in upgraded from an X4 955 to a Ryzen 5 2600 last week. Man, what a difference.
I have the first gen 1600X. I agree with you on that. It's a world of difference.
R.I.P. Phenom 2 X6
My Phenom 2 x4 will lament for your loss in the form of playing a UA-cam video. * bagpipes play *
My x4 was awesome. Upgraded to a 1700x, but my x4 served me for a long time. At least form 2011/12 to 2017.
Game mine to a kid I coach. Hes playing fortnight with it and happy. Maybe because hes never seen a game over 60FPS
My 8350 is still kicking.
fx 8350 4ghz
gtx 1660 ti
16gb ddr3
And im using Oculus rift s without any issues, vr games works fine so, this setup in my opinion is good Minimum vr pc
I used to have essentially the same specs. FX-8350, GTX 1070, 16 GB of RAM. Spent $400 on an i5 7400, 8 GB of DDR4, a new mobo and a new case and my experience has been nothing but amazing with my leftover 1070. My suggestion is waiting until Cyber Monday or using those tax refunds in the spring.
0:04
isn't that funny that I just bought a better motherboard and PSU for my already 5 year old FX system to squeeze every last bit of performance left in it
RA Tech if i were you, i'd add 8gb of ddr4 and ryzen cpu. :)
"and only payed 30 bucks for all of it" lol I love looking at all the am3+ sock boards and their stupid low prices now.
Nope, I did exactly the same. New am3+ board, more ddr3, and an rx570. If it works, it works.
Didn't know it was so cheap. Thats a steal then! ;)
New or second-hand?
Building gaming systems for student friends - 4770k/4790k, z87/z97, 16gb ddr3 - usually come in around $150 ish these days (used). Delid, LM, 4.8-5ghz on used h100i, easy. Thrown in a gtx 970 or an rx570, barely touches $300-310, with the cooler. 1440p @60fps in most games.
I'm going to end up running my 8350 and 7970 into the ground. But I'm playing the Witcher three and very high settings without a problem. :D
Same boat. A lot of stuff you need to upgrade to go to newer. FX-8350 overclocked to 4.7GHz and 12GB of ram also overclocked on Asus M5A88-V Evo motherboard. MSI Twin Frozr Nvidia GTX1050TI GPU overclocked to 1974MHz. It seems to run most games quite well at good frame rates. Also is great for compiling source code using gcc in Debian. Runs 4k and 5k videos easily without strain. I am actually quite happy with it
You get 1080p 60fps across the board?
@@blacklist241 Yeah it runs 1080p 60fps videos with only about 18-20% CPU utilization and only 3-4% GPU utilization. Using Debian testing and Firefox 60. I can run X-Plane and pretty much max graphics settings as well and get good frame rates with no stuttering
@@blacklist241 It will even run 4k 60fps almost perfectly as well (only an occasional stutter). I think the stutter is because I need faster memory though. CPU utilization on videos is something like 50-65% but on downloaded mp4 videos it's much lower. For some reason UA-cam seems to more heavily rely on the CPU and barely uses the GPU which is really annoying. I need to try with more games but like I said X-Plane at Max settings runs flawlessly
@@mercedesbenzformula1 Thats not what he was asking fucktard.
@@youtuberobbedmeofmyname Wow what is your problem? You are a jerk. And what exactly did I now answer?
I got fx 4100 8gb ddr 3 ram and 1 gb vram 64 bit and i run gta 5 at low settings 600p with 40 fps ;)
I am happy
How arw you happy
@@zachscheiber728 am happy what I got ;)
FX chips are still holding their value! I think it will be another few years for them to become cheap on the second hand market.
PhilsComputerLab they aren’t really hiking their value because they are really good. They aren’t being made anymore which is why they are more expensive than they should be.
Derek Jonez Newegg sells FX processors and motherboards brand new. AMD haven't phased out the FX series since that is the current low-end processor range. That may change when AMD comes out with their sub-$50 Ryzen processor this month.
@@CDReimer yea in finland there is jimms it sell them brand new too
i got a second hand fx9590 for 75 euro.. just for fun.
Ok, don't laugh! Fx8320 24gb ram and 2 rx560.... Running proxmox, 2 windows 10 VM to play Fortnite 1080 / medium settings / around 50-60 fps 😉
It's very important to bump up CPU-NB to 2400 or 2600MHz to get higher L3 cache and IMC memory controller speeds. Also good to get RAM to as high frequency as possible. At least it wasn't at 1600MHz, so that's an improvement.
The NB frequency makes a huge difference on Phenom II x6 3.85Ghz with the NB @2.7Ghz its better than the CPU @4Ghz with the NB at stock.
@@xicofir3737 yep, it's very dramatic on old multi-core CPUs because back then nobody really expected that they will have to handle so much data. Memory sub system on AMD CPUs has been weaker historically. Overclocking CPU-NB and RAM gives much bigger performance/watt gain than core OC. Some idiots instead slow down RAM to 1333 just to make those useless 5GHz more stable. If a game uses over 2GB RAM, then you better keep RAM and CPU NB fast. In smaller games on old engines (CSGO etc) this matters less.
Best bet with FX CPUs is using 1866 at the lowest possible stable CAS-Timings. 1866 @ CAS-9 or lower will beat pretty much all other DDR3 out there.
@@BadMothaKalashnikov I can check that because I've built FX-8350 from spare parts and RAM on it goes up to 2000MHz stable. From what I know, timings are secondary because final latency depends on both frequency and timings. Bumping up frequency by 10% and timings by 5% will actually reduce latency, because timings are measured in cycles of RAM speed.
I read this a long time ago but just overclocked without touching NB or ram and had nothing but min boost. I just went back and set the NB to 2400 its as high as I can go sadly and manually set my ram timings to 1866 9-10-9-27 got the corsair vengeance blue two 4gb sticks. I believe they are the right timings linked tcl 9 trcd 10 trp 9 tras 27. I have to test this out later I think I need to get a new board I have the MSI 760GM-P34 (FX) with the FX 8320E and my video card is the 950 asus strix. I noticed the OC before helped some but the game still had stutters *pubg* game is poorly optimized anyways. I also can get more ram if I got another board cause my buddy has two more 4gb ram sticks same exact brand. I am wondering if I should even bump the overclock some its all stock besides the NB and ram now? I mean last time I tried I got frustrated and just cleared it all and ran stock, I don' think this board is really good enough, I even put little heatsinks all over the mosfets. I will check on those ram timings again make sure they are right, the fx8230e only runs 3.2 stock and reaches 3.50 on the boost the max boost I never see at 4.0. Also I don't if I am imagining this but since I set the ram and NB this computer just feels snappier weird lol
I'm still rocking a 8350, OC at 4.9Ghz, 16 gig 2133 ddr3 dual 970 strix sli. Old girl still games just fine, maybe lacking fps a but but playing ghost recon wildlands at 1080p settings high/ultra stable at 65+fps. CS go is 144+fps ultra high everything. I'll upgrade in the next few years, but I've pushed the clock over 5.5 Ghz and hold stable as long as I can keep temp down (winter time with room around 45°F).
Again, it's old, but still a good processor and favors overclocking (I believe still a max frequency record holder of some sort).
I'm only using mine at its stock clock with ddr3 1600. No serious issues playing anything yet. But I'd like to be able to play ultra settings on a 4k tv some day, which I plan to buy.
I bought an FX 8350 on Newegg a few days ago just because they were $65.
Then I started building a system around that 8350 with Ebay parts. I'll sell the system
and just do it for fun. I've got a Nitro+ 580 (8GB) and 16GB of RAM to go with it.
My personal system is an 8700K and 2080 Ti FTW3 but I just like messing with old parts.
I had a power supply, case and16gb ddr3 ram spare so I needed ddr3 board and found that getting a fx8350 for 69 quid and a board for around the same it was a bargain to build and stuck a gtx 970 4gb card in there and it handles 1080p gaming at high end at 60hz no problem at all!
I'm actually using an FX-8150 (standard version, overclocked to 4.3ghz), 8GB DDR3, and a 1070. Most AAA games (recently, Battlefield 1, Call of Duty:WW2, and Far Cry 5) run at a more or less stable 60fps for me at extreme settings, but that's probably because I have an old 1360x768 TV. My Far Cry 5 benchmark results are actually very close to what JayZ got in this video.
I've been using the FX-8150 for five years (3 of those with a Sapphire Radeon 6850 HD) and I gotta say it's served me really well. I even considered postponing getting Ryzen and getting an FX-8370 black edition instead and overclocking it like hell, but in the end decided against it and now I have a Ryzen 1600x waiting for me to buy it a mobo and ram.
Seeing this video, I'm happy I went with Ryzen. The FX-8370 doesn't seem to give much better performance than my FX-8150 (although, granted, JayZ is using a 1080p screen) to make it worth the buy.
Yeah it's old. But did you properly overclocked your FX? Most of the UA-camr does it completely wrong. They just bump core clock and completely forget about northbridge(or whatever the part transfering data from RAM to CPU). And that lead to nothing but stock processing power with high frequency(which is doing nothing cuz it has no data to work with) There is one(as far as i know) Russian guy who overclocked it properly. 8350 wasn't super great. But it was smashing i5s super hard and getting close to i7s. So FX is dying but still viable.
Link?
Northbridge has no effect on fx series cpu.. That was years ago on the Phenom cpu.
key, he mean cpunb, without cpunb 2600+ and 2000+ram cpu core clocing has no sense
FX still suffered from terrible cache hierarchy and had terrible Floating Point performance because of it (Floating Point performance goes hand and hand with memory performance). And also the shared FPU per module. Phenom IIs were more efficient and faster at stock on an older process node to boot.
This is how I overclocked my FX, (it was actually an Athlon 860K, same cores though) but in reality it really doesn’t help much.
FX 8XXX was matching 2500K in 2012, slightly beats it when both OC’d (properly) but never comes even close to an i7 2600K OC in raw power.
Running an 8350 with an R9 380 and I’m pretty happy right now. Still plays high end games fairly well.
i have an AMD FX 6300 six core, a asus 750ti, 8gb of ddr3 patriot ram, and a msi 970a sli krait edition motherboard
Even it means low settings, you can play modern games in 1080p resulation with good fps.
I built my system around late 2011 early 2012, and upgraded cpu and gpu around 2014
CPU FX-8350 @ 4.4 air cooled
GPU Radeon HD 7870 2GB @ 1050 X2 CrossFire
MoBo MSI 970A-G46
Ram 8GB Corsair XMS3 (first built with 32GB, I have lost a couple of sticks over the years.)
PSU Corsair GS-600
Monitor AOC 1920-1080 x2 (only game on one)
Benchmarks
Tomb Raider 2013 (Ultimate - 1920x1080)
Min FPS 58.0
Max FPS 60.3
Avg FPS 60.0
Max Watts at wall 460w
3DMark (Fire Strike 1.1 vanilla)
7575
Graphics 9680
Physics 7935
Combined 2807
Max Watts at wall 512w
Wow... 7 years huh... dang I feel old.
I remember the whole fiasco about i5 3570k vs FX 8350. Everyone was talking about it, everyone was doing a video about it. I was planning on building my first rig at that point, but I didn't know much about PC parts. So I googled everything, I did my research for about 6 months, and I'm glad I did that because I got introduced to Linus from NCIX Tech Tips videos, Logan, Wendell, and Qain from TekSyndicate (I was a big fan of The Tek videos), Paul, Kyle, and Joanne from Newegg, Bryan from Tech Yes City, Jay of course, Austin Evans back when his channel was Duncan33303, Rodney Reynolds a.k.a 3DGameMan, Joker, and many other youtubers that also did unboxing / review videos about PC related stuff.
I ended up picking up the 3570k (still using it to this moment btw) because my focus was just gaming performance and back then there weren't many games that could benefit from multi-threaded performance, so seeing the 3570k had a slightly better single-threaded performance than the 8350 which meant better gaming performance, I was convinced to buy it. However a lot of my friends whose focus was more towards editing got the 8350 and all those extra physical cores really helped their productivity. Both 3570k and 8350 were fantastic chips imo, but now that more games can benefit from those extra cores, I think picking the 8350 might have been the better choice because its single-threaded performance is not that far behind the 3570k either. Anyway aside from all that, IMO both chips are old at this point, and yes I too am thinking about upgrading my system.
As a 3D artist I went with the FX 8300 back then but at the same time was also building a new gaming rig for my father and chose the i5 3350P for his rig, I honestly feel both chips have held up great. The only downside is because of his budget at the time I got a really wimpy ITX MoBo for my dad and the VRM was trash, 3 years later the mother board died and by that time the socket/chipset was EOL so I ended up having a real pain trying to find a good replacement for the intel system meanwhile there were still plenty of good motherboards to be found, both new and used, for the AMD FX Chips.
HAHA it's 2020 and I'm still rocking a FX 8350, Asus Crosshair V Formula MB, 32 Gigs of Memory, and a GTX 1070 Founders Edition video card, and a combine total of 4.5 TeraBytes of HD.. I know it's time to upgrade, and as soon as this Human Malware goes away, hopefully I will be able to upgrade to a Zen 7 3700x, Asus Crosshair VIII Hero, 32 Gigs of DDR4, and some water cooling to boot... Everything else is going to stay the same, even my Cooler Master HAF X. I love to build, and I will keep as much as I can for as long as I can. Jay thank you for your videos brother, I highly enjoy them 👍👍👍