Me: *buys a Fw190* "Oh my God, I will finally see why the brits named it "butcher bird", *gets shot down a thousand times* Second time I tried this I shot dow a corsair wich somehow (me being a noob) seemed invincible before that. Now I want a P47 for dinner and I will have it!
I used to have almost a 4-1 K/D in the A-4 and over a 3.0 in the A-5. They must have nerfed the shit out of 190s. They feel like flying bricks that roll really well.
Dude! I have learnt SO MUCH from your channel. The way you explain things is clear and can be understood and you make it look easy. I know some of these videos are old, but they are still applicable and I want to thank you. I also learned from Taka Leon, whom you mentioned in one of your vids. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I set my “free look” button to a mouse thumb button and the left click mouse button to “look at target.” That way if I lose sight of the plane attacking me I can hit the left click and reacquire them. I use the space bar to fire the guns, I find that hitting a button on the mouse throw my aim off.
Another nice trick is to rebind c to space (who drops bombs more than using the camera?) so you can just hold free look and still have your wasd fingers free for kb maneuvering.
I personally continue to use 'c' but use keyboard controls for elevator and aileron to do this. Also, you have the strangest accent...sometimes it sounds Louisiana, sometimes New Zealand, but I'm perplexed.
@@JuiceOg0311 damn I wrote this comment so long ago, I was such a noob lol. I'd say I'mm much better now with flying since I changed my controls (I still use controller). I can confidently say that I'm now just as able as any other player no matter what platform.
Tested the flaps on the fw 190 Antons.....they dont break till about 700 kmph, does anyone have the actual speeds which they break at?...this is so wrong but so good
I think landing flaps rips about 350ish km/h, pretty easy to rip them off when you have so many other things to pay attention too. This is also hard to do when 50 cals can start effectively shooting from well over 1 km away. 190s are awesome planes tho, tough learning curve but once you know how to handle them they are more than capable of carrying a match.
As someone who just got the a1, I'm struggling to get to grips with it. It climbs like crap, flys with all the grace of a brick, and has such limited cannon ammo. When I saw this version had 500 plus rounds I was astounded cause I have 60 per gun. I've repeatedly found myself being out turned by fucking corsairs which on paper I should be able to beat. I am mostly stock still and still need time to get used to it I guess. Air rb in general could use some love imo, more things to do for bombers and such, maybe a respawning system like tank rb...
I usually just speed away in a straight line because most fighters are too slow to catch me . Then i quickly turn around and head on them , usually win because of the explosive cannons .
hi, how can you look back and drag the mouse back. When I do that I look backwards and now I can't control the plane. It flies stubbornly straight ahead. Where can I adjust this? Greeting from Austria
Regarding your trick about looking backward while rolling? Personally I just bind (mouse look activation) to space bar and pitch up to a thumb button on my mouse.
I can’t do the looking behind and rolling thing, I usually just have one problem I never seem to get enough lift to do anything than just full pull or just roll. I’m rolling and jinking and doing scissors but they never seem to get much closer I mean, they are usually but not fast enough. Maybe using the German air brake might work
Does this still work with the current patch? When I roll and flick the mouse cursor behind , the plane pitches up following the direction of the cursor. Am I doing something wrong?
Great video. I think I'm just too stupid to understand this stuff and get better. I don't know what's wrong with me that I struggle so much to grasp and apply BFM and ACM in game. I can read about it and watch videos all day, but I never seem to improve or actually know what to do when I need to.
Hey Green Fury! I saw you in a match, you were in a Fw 190, and we did a head on and both went up (username: BigBeanerMan) and then your teammate came and kill me. Do you remember that?
Yupp, that usually works best, i always do a short burst, roll out, just enough to throw off their aim, then when they try to get guns on you again, i nose down just abit, roll another 180 degrees and pull elevator, you almost end up going right under them. Which allows you to pick up some much needed speed, and makes them do a full turn and bleed some energy before they start to chase you.
Alexandru Rares Pascu enemies know what your doing, unfortunately with the fw190s, if you are caught w low energy, and the enemy doesn’t fall for an overshoot, you are most likely going to die. You can’t climb away and you can’t out maneuver them, or run away, so just keep trying to defensive fly and you might be lucky. Either way don’t beat yourself up. Sometimes you just don’t get out alive
well couple of patches ago the roll rate was great in it right, than its tail got nerfed, when I do the maneuvers it wobbles a bit. also the flaps have been nerfed badly, Once upon a time using flaps with the combination of defensive maneuvers, bf 109 could easily go up against the spitfire, you still can with a bf 109 just have to be carefull
Kiệt Trần, you absolutley can do this in a 109, they're lighter planes so tend to slow down a little quicker which is better for over shoots, but you do have to use rudder and ailerons together to pull this off in a 109, otherwise the roll is just too slow. Using rudder makes a wider loop than just aileron rolls too, so could even be a harder target.
You the shit don't get me wrong, but fuck id love to fight the planes these youtubers fight, they just sit there and get hit. And id really appreciate more Bf/FWs vs Yaks or J2Ms videos.
WT's flight model is junk, and not just for the 190. The entire thing is really very gamey, and so much so it leaves historical accuracy behind in favor of eye candy and a participation trophy. I'll stick to Aces High.
Second time I tried this I shot dow a corsair wich somehow (me being a noob) seemed invincible before that. Now I want a P47 for dinner and I will have it!
i just wanted to fly a litle and shoot some planes ...... now im study WWII aircombat tactics engine-manuals and dif ammo types and his range n penetration ..... "wrote the 5 points on a paper and sticks it to the keyboard" 0o
Fighter Pilot to lead mechanic of the ground crew.......l want you to let all of the air out of those tyre's...... mechanic. ..but Sir if l let all the air out of those tyre's, it will not be safe to take off !......Pilot... exactly.and dont forget to report to the commander that this kite is unsafe for combat mission's ! Mechanic but sir you will be court marshalled ! Pliot...If that what it take's to avoid been killed in this stupid war......then so be it !
RedJive213 thanks dude. Only had it for 3 hours it so- and it’s already so much easier- I wonder how it’ll be when I get that muscle memory. Seriously I reccomend it, I got a £52 redragon keyboard and mouse off of Amazon- compatible with Xbox
![Fw 190 A-5 - The Butcher Bird [War Thunder]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/l0Rudnl5_4s/mqdefault.jpg)
who come here after lose 10 battle with the Fw-190 to see how to play this thing
Me after 40 I'm done
Dustin James Me after 190 losses
got a talisman from a battle trophy
Me: *buys a Fw190* "Oh my God, I will finally see why the brits named it "butcher bird", *gets shot down a thousand times* Second time I tried this I shot dow a corsair wich somehow (me being a noob) seemed invincible before that. Now I want a P47 for dinner and I will have it!
I used to have almost a 4-1 K/D in the A-4 and over a 3.0 in the A-5. They must have nerfed the shit out of 190s. They feel like flying bricks that roll really well.
Dude! I have learnt SO MUCH from your channel. The way you explain things is clear and can be understood and you make it look easy. I know some of these videos are old, but they are still applicable and I want to thank you. I also learned from Taka Leon, whom you mentioned in one of your vids.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
He Is the the best for learning planes.
I set my “free look” button to a mouse thumb button and the left click mouse button to “look at target.” That way if I lose sight of the plane attacking me I can hit the left click and reacquire them. I use the space bar to fire the guns, I find that hitting a button on the mouse throw my aim off.
Fair call on the mouse button to fire. That's a pretty common issue. I use space as my free look cos I use it all the bloody time haha
Wow why didn't I think of this. I'm new to the game but early on realized I was having trouble easily looking around... Change the button!
*Nice.*
Noice.
Nice.
This is one of the best defensive manoeuvres at your disposal in my opinion
Another nice trick is to rebind c to space (who drops bombs more than using the camera?) so you can just hold free look and still have your wasd fingers free for kb maneuvering.
RetroVertigo. I bound mine to the right click button on the mouse, it just feels more natural
Thats a very good tip!!
Or you if you're using mouse aim, just move the mouse behind you, and strictly use ONLY the keys to maneuver, that's how I usually do it.
RetroVertigo fuck the space bar, I use the left mouse button
I always thought people doing those maneuvers had track IR or something. Thanks for this tip. Have been using C to look back this whole time.
I personally continue to use 'c' but use keyboard controls for elevator and aileron to do this.
Also, you have the strangest accent...sometimes it sounds Louisiana, sometimes New Zealand, but I'm perplexed.
I thought he was a 🥝 South African lol
Sounds Texas to me
Sounds midwestern to me
@@Kay_213_ not midwestern lol
i know people from the midwest with that accent so that was just my two cents
Man your advice is unbelievably helpful. Looking forward to your upcoming videos on the 190s :)
i do this all the time when trying to make the enemy overshoot, works on PS4 as well
Good video!
thats awesome so it works the same in at least one other console
How do you do it?
How?
It's hard on ps4 though
Not if you have a keyboard and mouse for your PS4.
Not if you switch your controls
So much better with keyboard and mouse. I’ve been doing it for the past month and it took time to learn but wow kills come so easy.
@@JuiceOg0311 damn I wrote this comment so long ago, I was such a noob lol. I'd say I'mm much better now with flying since I changed my controls (I still use controller). I can confidently say that I'm now just as able as any other player no matter what platform.
@@JuiceOg0311 you just need the right controls
thanks i used the fw 190a5 degensive technique and i manage to dodge a wyvern and p 51 that was behind me. : )
awesome to hear mate
Tested the flaps on the fw 190 Antons.....they dont break till about 700 kmph, does anyone have the actual speeds which they break at?...this is so wrong but so good
I think landing flaps rips about 350ish km/h, pretty easy to rip them off when you have so many other things to pay attention too. This is also hard to do when 50 cals can start effectively shooting from well over 1 km away. 190s are awesome planes tho, tough learning curve but once you know how to handle them they are more than capable of carrying a match.
it's not wrong the 190 had very strong flaps IRL
Looking at the WT datasheet for the A-8 the listed limits for the landing flaps are 300kmh, the takeoff flaps 700kmh
Thanks for that information :)
my fw d series have never lost its flaps
this guy is awsome. i learn form him more than from anyone other.
Wow, that was extremely helpful and informative.
As someone who just got the a1, I'm struggling to get to grips with it. It climbs like crap, flys with all the grace of a brick, and has such limited cannon ammo. When I saw this version had 500 plus rounds I was astounded cause I have 60 per gun.
I've repeatedly found myself being out turned by fucking corsairs which on paper I should be able to beat. I am mostly stock still and still need time to get used to it I guess.
Air rb in general could use some love imo, more things to do for bombers and such, maybe a respawning system like tank rb...
Thanks did not know I could do flick thing . Flaps into is good to know too!
I usually just speed away in a straight line because most fighters are too slow to catch me . Then i quickly turn around and head on them , usually win because of the explosive cannons .
Im waiting this for a long time.
What a slick channel my guy. Seriously helpful, fucking top notch
This was very interesting, thanks man.
finally, another video ;)
Sadly with controllers you are more limited with this maneuver, but it's definitely possible and requires so quick fingers.
Well when I am slowing down then the enemy does too so I end up being killed anyways.
turn on subtitles at 0:09
I think I’ll prefer the bf-109, as defensive flying on Xbox is a bit harder
But I still love the aesthetic of this plane
this helped me alot actually thank you so much
Great advice ur videos are superb.
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On my ps4 I rebinded my mouse aim to the touchpad and if I wanted to defensive fly I jus flick on the touchpad and jus roll
hi, how can you look back and drag the mouse back. When I do that I look backwards and now I can't control the plane. It flies stubbornly straight ahead. Where can I adjust this? Greeting from Austria
On ps 4 i do almost same thing but
Dont watch the back because its imposible i just lower takeoff flaps and forcing enemies to overshoot by rolling
Regarding your trick about looking backward while rolling? Personally I just bind (mouse look activation) to space bar and pitch up to a thumb button on my mouse.
Will you make a video on the Fw 190 D-13
Great as usual!
Hey Fury, could you make a tutorial over flaps and throttle control ? I can't find tutorials and don't know what do in stall or slow maneuvers .. :(
Hey man, how do you make your videos? They are great and I wanted to know. Thx
I can’t do the looking behind and rolling thing, I usually just have one problem
I never seem to get enough lift to do anything than just full pull or just roll. I’m rolling and jinking and doing scissors but they never seem to get much closer
I mean, they are usually but not fast enough. Maybe using the German air brake might work
what do you mean by flick the mouse?
Does this still work with the current patch? When I roll and flick the mouse cursor behind , the plane pitches up following the direction of the cursor. Am I doing something wrong?
Yo dude, when I flick my mouse back, it starts fighting controls for aileron and elevator, is there some sorta control setup to reduce this?
You are a great pilot
I just bought it today. And i said climb, dive, kill, climb, if no kill, run and by that i did actually won 5 matches in a row
Do these maneuvers work with any plane that can’t outturn other planes?
what does the sense off flight do in the plane controls?just wondering
will you be able to do these with the reward FW 190 C from the festive quest event?
how exactly do you do that spin?
First we have TheOrangeDoom, and now we have the Green Fury
i like your technique
Idk if this will help but keep your cursor behind enemy tail
Great video. I think I'm just too stupid to understand this stuff and get better. I don't know what's wrong with me that I struggle so much to grasp and apply BFM and ACM in game. I can read about it and watch videos all day, but I never seem to improve or actually know what to do when I need to.
Practice in test flight and play around with the maneuvers. Imagine there is a enemy plane on you if that helps.
You ever try to live stream? I think it would do good
do i need to hold W key when i do it maneuver bro ?
Hey, nice trick. Do you use keyboard to control your plane while having mouse aim to look behind ?
Yes i do :)
hi thanks. Can you give some advice ? I did this trick couple of times before but I can't seem to control the plane as smoothly as you
the used 190 is the A-5?
or you can just hold S and D while on advanced controls
Flaps go 700, wings go 912...... This thing is mad
these are nice
Could you do the D9?
in a d9 against a spitfire this works really well, cos the acceleration in a lower alt in a d9 is insane
Oh realy? I also thought the D9 maneuvered the best, it is also Messer_Schmitty's weapon of choice. ^^
Messer is a beast!
Yea to bad he is not hardly active. :(
Hey Green Fury! I saw you in a match, you were in a Fw 190, and we did a head on and both went up (username: BigBeanerMan) and then your teammate came and kill me. Do you remember that?
ahhhhhh yesssss, lol, Im trying to learn how to do proper headons with it, I hardly do them so i thought why not learn now.
A good tactic that's worked for me is to do a short burst then corkscrew, the Fw 190's roll rate really allows it do be evasive like that.
Yupp, that usually works best, i always do a short burst, roll out, just enough to throw off their aim, then when they try to get guns on you again, i nose down just abit, roll another 180 degrees and pull elevator, you almost end up going right under them. Which allows you to pick up some much needed speed, and makes them do a full turn and bleed some energy before they start to chase you.
I tried this , but some enemies rather like to ram me than overshoot...
So i look back, stop the engine, im opening the flaps, they also stop the engine and never overshoot...what am i doing wrong?
Alexandru Rares Pascu enemies know what your doing, unfortunately with the fw190s, if you are caught w low energy, and the enemy doesn’t fall for an overshoot, you are most likely going to die. You can’t climb away and you can’t out maneuver them, or run away, so just keep trying to defensive fly and you might be lucky. Either way don’t beat yourself up. Sometimes you just don’t get out alive
I’ve got to practice with this because I get My orientation messed up
i have been in test flight for ages and still can't do this manover
Can we use this manuever when flying 109?
109 is weird now, like you can but you have to know for sure your lock up and brick up speeds
What do you mean the 109 is weird?
well couple of patches ago the roll rate was great in it right, than its tail got nerfed, when I do the maneuvers it wobbles a bit. also the flaps have been nerfed badly, Once upon a time using flaps with the combination of defensive maneuvers, bf 109 could easily go up against the spitfire, you still can with a bf 109 just have to be carefull
Kiệt Trần, you absolutley can do this in a 109, they're lighter planes so tend to slow down a little quicker which is better for over shoots, but you do have to use rudder and ailerons together to pull this off in a 109, otherwise the roll is just too slow. Using rudder makes a wider loop than just aileron rolls too, so could even be a harder target.
That informations pretty cool, hope it helps #Kiệt Trần
gl doing this against a p47m1 pilot who knows what airbreakes are
You the shit don't get me wrong, but fuck id love to fight the planes these youtubers fight, they just sit there and get hit. And id really appreciate more Bf/FWs vs Yaks or J2Ms videos.
I don't understand why, but seeing the enemies as purple, theyre less threatening.
PC master race son!
bruh how are these battles so calm i consatly get raped by 5 planes who never miss and planes everywhere
0,3sec LET ME SHOW YOU A LITTLE TRICK I LEARNED
How do you do it on PS4?
Use the a mixture of the touch pad to move the cursor fast, and sticks for normal manoeuvres
Sigh I can’t seem to get good in the Antons, 109s and Doras are better for me
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WT's flight model is junk, and not just for the 190. The entire thing is really very gamey, and so much so it leaves historical accuracy behind in favor of eye candy and a participation trophy. I'll stick to Aces High.
I saw myself in this vid lol!
I knew it was nerfed.
i cant decide if he's a american hill billy or from switzerland
Bruh i tried this and the enemy crashed into my wings
try again bro, i believe in you
Second time I tried this I shot dow a corsair wich somehow (me being a noob) seemed invincible before that. Now I want a P47 for dinner and I will have it!
@@alfredware got it? XD
@@Краснаяармиясамаясильная-б9ы A lot ha ha.
Wasted 100 hours on this thing, still died on first contact
i just wanted to fly a litle and shoot some planes ...... now im study WWII aircombat tactics engine-manuals and dif ammo types and his range n penetration ..... "wrote the 5 points on a paper and sticks it to the keyboard" 0o
it becomes a lifelong sickness after a point, the more you learn the more you realise how little you still know.
Fighter Pilot to lead mechanic of the ground crew.......l want you to let all of the air out of those tyre's...... mechanic.
..but Sir if l let all the air out of those tyre's, it will not be safe to take off !......Pilot... exactly.and dont forget to report to the commander that this kite is unsafe for combat mission's !
Mechanic but sir you will be court marshalled !
Pliot...If that what it take's to avoid been killed in this stupid war......then so be it !
Why does it sounds like he is saying "fuckable" 190??
Because it's pronounced "focke vulf" and he has an accent
This is real hard on Xbox
I’ve made it work
Start the roll and move your cursor vertical while still rolling. Increase cursor speed if you need too
RedJive213 lol I just brought a keyboard and mouse
@@morbidlyobese2944 okay cool. hope it works out for you
RedJive213 thanks dude. Only had it for 3 hours it so- and it’s already so much easier- I wonder how it’ll be when I get that muscle memory. Seriously I reccomend it, I got a £52 redragon keyboard and mouse off of Amazon- compatible with Xbox
Xd i shot down 14 planes in a he 100 d1
I don't understand anything
yeah for sure, i can also post a bunch of videos where enemies dont shoot me...
Says flick your mouse me an Xbox player ;-;
Try moving the cursor in the vertical while rolling, not horizontal
Increasing cursor speed will also help
Watch the video
Open War Thunder
Fly Fw-190
Roll like Green Fury
"YOU GOT A HOLE ON YOUR LEFT WING !!"