Build a TRON Arcade Controller & GRS Controls +MAME +RetroPie or PC: 3D-Printed TRON Panel!
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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2024
- In this video, we will build a 3D Printed Tron Control Panel using the Glen's Retro Show (GRS @gplanamento ) Tron Joystick and Spinner. We'll create a single box which can easily be plugged into an existing Raspberry Pi OR PC running MAME! With OpenCADE and GRS products, you can build it how YOU want it. Check out my other OpenCADE videos to get the most out of this solution.
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Tron Control Panel (on Thingiverse): www.thingiverse.com/thing:392...
Core OpenCADE models (on Thingiverse): www.thingiverse.com/thing:344...
Wrist supports (on Thingiverse): www.thingiverse.com/thing:349...
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*NOTE: The encoder board shown in this video is no longer being included with the product. Therefore, if an encoder is needed it will be a separate purchase. Just wanted to make you aware of that change.
Is the encoder sold by thunder stick studio or does it need to be purchased from a different retailer?
This is SO AWESOME!!! TRON with a spinner and replica stick - the ONLY way to play!
ZAXXON AND TRON , MAN HOW COOL IS THAT !
Awsome man. Love it
Thank you my friend and thank you for the AWESOME products that make it possible!
Thanks for all the hard work with opencade. Wanger
Thank you so much, I greatly appreciate your support! If there is anything I can do to assist, please don't hesitate to let me know. Best, Jon
@@WagnersTechTalk just keeps doing great things with opencade I injoy all the things u make for it
estoy esperando que llegue mi Joystick para realizar mi proyecto, muchas gracias, por toda la explicacion, fue muy clara y estoy seguro que no tendre ningun problema en realizar el proyecto con vuestras indicaciones, saludos desde BAHIA Huenquillahue, Region de los lagos, CHILE
¡Muy bienvenido! GRS fabrica algunos productos fantásticos, creo que estarás muy contento con él.
This is one of those moments I am thankful I don't have a 3D Printer. My wallet is also thankful.... I need a 3d printer now
Is there any way you can make a reverse of this? with the joystick on the left side? I can erase the spinner in fusion but I can't move a hole or make a whole. I have the spinner on the second box for spacing, and using this box for the joystick and some buttons which I can drill in..
How do you design these? I want to make an adapter to change from the GRS spinner to the GRS push pull spinner for Disc of Tron. It fits into a standard button hole though. so I have to make a plate that will adapt between the two sizes.
There are bunch of tools you can use such as Microsoft 3D Builder, Tinkercad, Blender, etc. I use a package called MoI 3D. There is an empty control panel included in the main package, you can import that and place the holes wherever you want for the buttons. Hope that helps!
I notice that the button connectors of the harness (that remained unconnected) don't look like the normal arcade button connectors- they seem to be smaller connectors enclosed in white plastic. Do you know what the name of this type of connector is? I'm looking to get buttons that could hook up to these connectors.
I sent a message to Glen (of Glen's Retro Show) to ask him. When I hear back, I'll reply with what he says. I don't want to tell you wrong as I haven't used those connectors myself.
@@WagnersTechTalk Any update on this, I'm putting together currently and all the cherry switches I have do not fit (they are too big to fit in to the white plastic shrouded connectors). Should I just cut them off and attach a bigger lead?
Do you have a good 3D model of a Tron Joystick while I wait for my GRS stick to ship?
I'm sorry, I don't. You might try reaching out to Glen here: www.glensretroshow.com/contact
Do they sell Tron sticks with deflector button? Was used for the game discs of tron
I don't think so "yet". Thought I recall Glen mentioning that is something they may do in the next version, don't quote me on that one though 😇
The GRS Tron Stick I ordered did not come with the connectors shown in the video or the encoder board. Only came with wire harnesses for the ArcadeUp ALU. Could you tell me where I can get the connectors and encoder board? Thank you.
Hi Alexander, please check with Glen here: www.glensretroshow.com/contact When mine was ordered, it came with and unsure what's changed since then.
Glad I found this video, it looks like a fun project! Does the stearing wheel you printed have enough clearance to be used next to the Tron stick?
Hi Craig, yes it has enough clearance - no problem using it along side the Tron stick.
@@WagnersTechTalk Awesome and thanks for such a quick reply!
Most welcome Sir!
You may have seen this already, but just incase you haven't got more info here: wagnerstechtalk.com/grs/
Does the spinner pull up and down to be able to play discs of tron properly?
Not with this spinner, but GRS does make a push-pull spinner.
How did you get the encoder? The one I just purchased didn't include one. Anyway great video.. thanks for making it.
Thank you Alex, I recently learned that the encoder is no longer being included for some reason (mine was when this video was made). Not sure what replacement should be used. Glen may have a suggestion : www.glensretroshow.com/contact/
What encoder did u end up using? I have the same issue
Tron is my all time favorite arcade game. It is the reason why I never went to college. My mom gave me money to apply (like $15 lol) and I used it to play Tron lol. Does it feel like an arcade one--i.e. the spinner, etc? Thanks for the video. I had a chance to buy a real Tron around 30 years ago for $200 still kicking myself for not getting it lol.
LOL, yeah $15 won't get you too far in college. I used this with RetroPie on a Raspberry Pi and it worked really well. The Tron stick only has 1 button, so you won't be able to use it very easily with discs of Tron without hardware modifications. The spinner works great as well as the stick for the original Tron game. Very similar to the Arcade. Hope I answered all your questions! Keep in mind, you will need a 3D printer or access to one to build this. You could also use it with a computer instead of a Pi if you want.
@@WagnersTechTalk Lol it was the registration fee.
Hi Wager! IS? there a interface board I buy that allow me to add six buttons to it?
Yes, please see the main OpenCADE video here: wagnerstechtalk.com/opencade/#Video_Build_Your_Own_OpenCADE There you'll see a control panel with buttons and a joystick. You will need an encoder board and buttons.
Hey there! Another question regarding the Tron joystick. Grs spinner is now working but the grs tron stick isn’t although a pop-up window says its detected in Port 0. I read MAME 1.4 may help but it’s not available online anymore. Do you happen to have this? My regular advancemame has no success.
You might want to try contacting Glen at the Glen's Retro Show YT channel for his recommendation. I've not yet worked with the latest product version and don't have an answer for you.
@@WagnersTechTalk Finally finished my Tron A1up cab if you’re interested in seeing. Geez this was not a simple project, lol!
ua-cam.com/video/Juxtd4njdis/v-deo.html
@@djd-cepticon7215 You did an Awesome job on it! Thank you for sharing, enjoyed watching your vid!
would have been cool to see disc of tron on there too
Disc of Tron is an awesome game, but it may be misleading for me to have demonstrated it in this setup. Disc of Tron used a very unique spinner, a push-pull spinner. It would be cumbersome to play with this configuration. However, about a year later Glen (GRS) released a push-pull spinner that makes it possible and designed a new control panel to work with it. Here's the more recent video, if interested: ua-cam.com/video/2soNa6maghw/v-deo.html
Any chance to buy a control panel with spinner, tron stick, and buttons premade from you?
Unfortunately no, I'm not setup for production. My printer is nearly 6 years old.
I have my Spinner and Tron joystick on order and have started printing all the case pieces (my first 3d prints of the new year) in a lovely Tron blue. I see MiSTer just added MCR2&3 games (including Tron), so I can't wait to get started assembling all the pieces. But I have one question: What about Discs of Tron? It's my favorite 80s arcade game, it's the one game I always seek out at California Extreme, and the environmental cabinet is at the top of my "if I ever get the space, I would buy in a heartbeat" list. Is there a way to support the up/down spinner mechanism for Discs of Tron?
Great question, something I had wondered as well so your question prompted me to ask the expert and manufacturer, Glen himself (his channel: ua-cam.com/users/gplanamento ). His response was (paraphrased) that there is experimentation going on with a pull-push spinner but it's not at all made. My commentary: It appears this may be an option in the future.
@@WagnersTechTalk Thank you. I will keep an eye on Glen's channel.
If I hear anything new, I'll update you as well.
I was wondering if this spinner and controller would be compatible with the MiSTer FPGA.
Did you try this setup on the MiSTer FPGA?
Any recommendations on a 3D printer suitable to print this size project?
Any printer with a build volume of at least 225 x 145 x 150 mm should be good. I printed all my parts using a FlashForge Creator Pro ( amzn.to/3bpnhVy ) which is about 3 years old and still runs great. Although, I rarely use the dual-extruders feature and print mostly using one nozzle. There is a free splicer called FlashPrint that you can download, it's great. I've never had a need to use anything else.
@@WagnersTechTalk thank you for the quick reply, keep up the good work!
I ordered from amazon from the link you provided for the joystick, but it doesn't have a encoder board like what you said it does? How do I get one?
The joystick I ordered did, check with Glen to see if something has changed here: www.glensretroshow.com/contact/
@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks I contacted him and this is what he said Quote"Hi Jeff.
We no longer include the encoder board. We removed it to bring the price down you can use any standard USB joystick encoder board with it they can range anywhere from $5 to $8 it's just a standard zero delay USB and code aboard.
Respectfully
Glen Planamento"
Did u have to change any settings
I changed some of the sensitivity settings, that was about it. I documented everything I changed here: wagnerstechtalk.com/grs/#RetroPie_Configuration_AdvancedMAME Hope it's helpful.
Will it be possible for you to redo this video with the new GRS up down spinner and a mod button for thumb to play Disc of Tron PLEASE and link your items to purchase
Hi Emily, it is in my near-future plans yes! Glen sent me all the stuff, I just need some time to get 'er done.
Hi Wagner! Great vid, as always. Like I said in another comment (your other vid), I'm doing an Arcade 1 UP Tron conversion and just got the GRS Tron stick. Do you think it's possible to bypass the encoder he included and use another aftermarket usb encoder instead? The connectors for the buttons included with Glen's stick look so foreign, and he doesn't explain that part in his vid. He also doesn't respond to comments asking for help which is sad and makes me feel like he just cares about the money and not his customers. :(
I've only used his encoder with mine, so I'm honestly not sure. Please give Glen some grace, he works in the medical industry and they are being hammered. He's also juggling trying to get the Star Wars Yokes ready for shipment, so I know he's got a lot on his plate. I've not spoken with him in about a week but I know he's stretched very thin. I'm sure he'll answer when he can. I can assure you, it's not about the money with him. He's just about selling his parts at cost.
Unless there is a reason not to use the included encoder, I would stick with it. If it were me selling it, I wouldn't be able to support any encoders not supplied by me. You never know what kind of quality they are, adequate voltage, etc. or figure out the wiring for all the encoders that are on the market. Not something one person could support. JMHO
Wagner's TechTalk Thanks for the feedback! I can understand that; it’s just a bit frustrating having unanswered questions for months now... but there IS a pandemic going on, lol! Okay second question: Is it possible to use two usb encoders for one player? For example, I use Glen’s encoder solely for the stick and plug that into one Pi 4 usb port and for my other buttons, use another usb encoder to plug into the second usb port on the Pi 4?
Certainly! That's how I use it on my console. I built an OpenCADE with a spinner, trackball and joystick (Joystick and buttons are using their own encoder connected via USB, Spinner+trackball to the 12-in-1 encoder,). Then, plug in the Tron stick (as a separate console) when I want to play Tron. Granted, I don't have it enclosed in a cabinet, but there is no difference at all. You may also want to get a powered USB hub in your cab to make sure that you have sufficient voltage to all of your connections. Hope that helps!
Wagner's TechTalk To be clear I want to use both the Tron stick AND buttons (both usb encoders) simultaneously for games that can use the Tron stick but require more buttons. If so then you just solved one of my issues and I greatly appreciate your help👌🏼
Are there any other places to get the 12 in 1 board? Amazon is out indefinitely.
Amazon is the only place I'm aware of, you might try asking Glen on his YT channel here: ua-cam.com/users/gplanamento He's probably just out of stock after the holidays.
They are back in stock, Jan 17th: amzn.to/2SPBX8c
@@WagnersTechTalk thanks
You neglected to mention that they do not include the flight stick encoder board in the GRS flight stick you linked to on Amazon. Where do we get that from, maybe a comment update on your video summary text would help?
I didn't neglect it, when I made this video the encoder board was included as part of the kit. However, I later found out it is no longer included and added a pinned comment to this video to make sure to update anyone who watches it.
@@WagnersTechTalk I get that, but as the original poster, maybe modify the video text, where you post the links, it would have been worthwhile for me to see a link on where I could buy that encoder so I wouldn't have to go into the comment section after I received my shipments which aren't as shown in the video. Can you, now, at least update your links to add the encoder board we should use that fits your thingiverse model?
Is there a way to buy it premade? I need one. Please?
Not that I'm aware of, you "might" find something on Etsy but I haven't seen it. The files are all free to DIY so you may find someone who can build one for you.
Is it possible to map the Tron joystick and spinner to play Mad Planets on MAME? Anybody have first hand experience with this game using this joystick and spinner build? i just want to make sure it's possible and someone has played it.
Yes it’s possible. Spinner is a mouse input and joystick is joystick input. You can assign rotate to spinner.
I have retro pi 4. And I have tried mame2000, 2003, 2015, 2016, and mame and could not get Tron working on my Retropie4. I'm using Tron 2, 3, and 4 roms. I was able to get Tron working on my laptop but I can' figure out why it''s not working on my Retropie. I really appreciate your help. I've got a Tron cab in the making with all the controls but can't get my RetroPie to work. I appreciate any help.
You can also try Advanced Mame, it's what I used here. I wrote down what I did here: wagnerstechtalk.com/grs/#RetroPie_Configuration_AdvancedMAME
@@WagnersTechTalk So I installed the last mame available on my pi and literally the last version of Tron and it worked. For whatever reason, adv mame didn't work but make 2010 did. I'm going to order the flight stick and spinner this week. Your videos have been very helpful. Thank you.
@@ks-bg5uk Very welcome, happy to hear you got it working!
@@WagnersTechTalk Hi, it's me again. So I ordered my flight stick and spinner and assembled everything. I was able to get the stick and buttons to work but I am not able to get the spinner to work. When I load Tron in mame using retropie, I click on tab to get into settings, but when I try to set dial with my spinner, it doesn't look like its synced or detected. When I spin the spinner, the spinner board is lighting up showing there's a signal. The control board has a red light as well. Any suggestions?
Where did you get the board for the Tron joystick with the five pin molex connector?
It's the 12-in-1 interface board here: wagnerstechtalk.com/grs/#Parts_Needed
@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks! I mean how did you connect the Tron stick to it? Did you build spade to molex connectors for it? Or is there a board you can get that has that built in?
@@coinop29 See 8:30 the connectors + board for the Tron Stick came with the Tron stick. The 12-in-1 board shown mounted at the base is needed for the spinner. Hope that clarifies.
@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks! I bought a Tron stick from Microcenter that didn’t come with a board or connectors. Hmm, is there a source to buy just those parts?
@@coinop29 Sure, you can check with Glen here: www.glensretroshow.com/contact/
I cannot configure the Tron Joystick with retropie. Wont recognize. Any idea why?
Worked fine here, may want to ask Glen over at Glen's Retro Show. Great guy, I'm sure he'll have some suggestions.
@TheMiggy75 I am almost at that point but am wondering if we can just ditch the usb encoder GRS included and use the usual after-market usb encoders Amazon sells for use with Sanwa clone buttons. Hope we can get some help on this, soon because I feel like I have just been ripped off.
I installed AdvancedMAME 1.4, but when I select the game and press enter on the keyboard, nothing happens. I can press TAB for the game menu, and that works. Please help!
Hi Jonathan, first you'll want to use the controller to select the game and press the 'A' button. Also, you have to make sure that the rom you're trying to run is for AdvancedMAME 1.4. If it doesn't launch, then it's mostly likely not or that the game depends on another set of files. I have a little bit more information available on this page: wagnerstechtalk.com/rpi4gaming/#Installing_ROMs
@@WagnersTechTalk If I was a big fan of that old show PUNKy Brewster, would I have any luck finding individual Roms, or do I have to look elsewhere?
I would recommend looking for a "rom set" ;) That is, a complete dump of whatever it is you're looking for. But as far as links from me for games, definitely need to look elsewhere - not something I can do.
That packaging is top notch. The downside... makes people like me turn into hoarders as I wouldn't want to throw it away, because it's so nice. Just want to hold on to it... just in case.
I'm the same way. Just ask my wife lol Really need to throw out some empty boxes over the holidays.
What key did you hit to get to the menu where you select the emulator, please?
When you launch a game, press enter when you see the dialog then you can change the options.
@@WagnersTechTalk That worked! Thanks so much! I've been trying to figure that out for years!
@@WagnersTechTalkI used TAB to reconfigure the controls for the Tron rom, but one more thing: how do I exit the game now? Select + start doesn't work, so for now I am using Esc on the keyboard.
If you set a SELECT button as your HotKey when you setup your controller, you press SELECT+START at the same time to exit. In AdvancedMame, it's a little tricky though. You may also need to define the up/down, A to be able to select the exit option. It's been awhile since I've done it, but I think that's right.
GRS Tron Stick no longer available on Amazon....anywone else selling them?
They are only out of stock, they'll be back. Check with Glen, he'll know more: www.glensretroshow.com/contact/
@@WagnersTechTalk Ok thanks. I want to build my own Tron arcade so I need joysticks that are as close to the real thing as possible. Actually, I want to build a Discs of Tron but I need a three level spinner and a Tron joystick with a trigger and a thumb button on the front panel. Do you know anyone that builds/sells those? Thanks in advance.
(and by the way - I also am planning on FINALLY building a Star Wars Arcade and have been looking for YEARS for the yoke controller needed - so I'm glad that GRS is making them - a dream I've had for almost 40 years can FINALLY be realized....)
No matter what I do, I cannot get the spinner to work in TRON. TRON only works in MAME2000. How did you even get the game to work on this? I'm running RetroPie on a Pi Zero w. Does anyone have any idea how to get this working?
I used a Raspberry Pi 3b+ at the time with AdvancedMAME. It's far easier to setup, I documented everything I did here: wagnerstechtalk.com/grs/#RetroPie_Configuration_AdvancedMAME
@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks I cannot get any of the ROMs I have (all of them) to open up in AdvancedMAME. It says not supported when I try from the CLI. Is there anything special I have to do to the ROMS, I've tried on my pi zero w and my Pi B+ no luck on any of them.
You have to make sure the roms you use with AdvancedMAME are the correct romset. If you downloaded them for MAME2k, they may not work (or only a few may). You'll likely have to download a new romset. Where to get it, I can't say.
@@WagnersTechTalk Thank you. Is there a keyword I may add to my search to find such a ROM set? I understand for legal reasons you cannot tell me where to look. I just searched for the ROM and downloaded every version I could find.
Came across this video
I am building my first arcade cabinet
I purchased a pre installed harddrive with all my games with hyperspin
I am a carpenter and building a awesome cabinet I don't have to much knowledge on cpu stuff enough said
I am using a old cpu not a raspberry pi
Tron is on of my favorite games.
Will this build work on cpu
Thanks
I assume your using an old PC, if so yes it will work as long as it has a USB port on the computer. In that case, you won't need the 3d printed case described in this video, but you would need the other parts (interface board+spinner and/or the Tron Flight Stick). All depends on what you want on your cabinet. The 12-in-1 interface board is only needed if you want to use the spinner or a trackball. If you want just the Tron flight stick, everything you need is included in that package.
How about the add on button to play disc of tron "deflector "
@@jeffharkleroad3290 You would have to rig that up yourself, there is only 1 button on the Tron stick.
Is a link to buy the 3D printed case and wrist supports available? I could find the case on thingiverse.org, but couldn’t see how to buy it.
Interesting, Thinkiverse once had an option where you can order it printed but not seeing it either. Some local libraries have 3D printers and can print stuff for you. I'm not equipped to print these for folks, may be good to check with local 3D printing groups or friends that could print it for you. I don't offer these for sale, I only design the models and let anyone print them. You can find good prices on printers, may be less hassle to pick up a printer. It's not hard to learn how to print an existing model and so much fun!
Where do I get the encoder board from. Mines didnt come with one
Everything I used may be found here: wagnerstechtalk.com/grs/#New_TRON_Control_Panel
@@WagnersTechTalk I have the 12 in 1 board. I'm looking for the interface that you are hooking up at 8:55
That board came with my Tron stick.
Oh Ok. I didnt receive one of those. Maybe I order the wrong version. I have to send it back I cant use it without the usb encoder
@@mutechannel13 , I spoke with a guy at Thunder Joystick, They told me they removed the encoder from the kit due to customers not needing them. He did send me a link to aliexpress for the encoder "Xinmotek XM-09 LED" . So far I have gotten the main joystick to work, but can't figure out how to get the LED's for the joystick to work.
Wanger can I buy a wheel off u? I dont have a 3d printer
You can click the button "Order this printed" button here www.thingiverse.com/thing:3847887
You'll also need the base printed as well, so check out my other two videos on OpenCADE (for the base) and the Expansion Pack (for the wrist rests) if you want those.
@@WagnersTechTalk i look in to them see how much they change and shipping cost to Canada.
Sitting here wishing the finished assembled product was available for purchase. 🤔🤨
I don't have the room here for a small printer farm. Maybe at some point Glen could provide some injection molded shells based on a similar design. That would be pretty awesome!
@@WagnersTechTalk, one single deck with the flight stick, spinner, trackball, maybe a few other buttons, and ending with a standard usb connection would certainly be awesome. It would mean that I could avoid buying the Taito Egrett II Mini Paddle & Trackball, and a Logitech flight stick. 😎👍
So if I don't have access to a 3D printer, I'm SOL. Great.
Not necessarily. You may have other options. 1) Many local libraries have 3d printers that can be used, you'd have to check with yours to see. 2) There is an option on the thingiverse page to "Buy this Printed" though, the cost of them doing it for you may get close to the cost of buying your own printer (I've never used these services myself). 3) Maybe you have a friend/family member with one that wouldn't mind printing it for you if you supply the printer filament. But, 3D printers have gotten fairly cheap (
Tron cabin and cotrollers are amazing but the game itself is not!
For it's time, it was impressive. Discs of Tron is my favorite between the two, Glen did an amazing job with the controls. Here's an updated video that uses the push-pull spinner in DoT: ua-cam.com/video/2soNa6maghw/v-deo.html
T-Sticks GRS Tron stick DOES NOT come with an encoder board and isn't even compatible with their own controller board. It should be illegal for T-Sticks to use videos like this to falsely advertise their products.
Stop lying and just tell people they need an encoder board and adapter.
Watching this video cost me over $60.
Back when I purchased/reviewed this product, about 4 years ago, the encoder was included with the package. Over time, products change and many already had encoder boards and it became an unnecessary expense. The price was dropped for the kit and the encoder no longer being shipped. I'll add a pinned post to make that clear for others in the future. Everything in this video was honest and true, at the time it was created.
@@WagnersTechTalk You do realize that T-sticks has this video embedded on their website to sell this stick?
Also not only does it not include an encoder board, it doesn't include a wiring harness, mounting bolts with nuts to tighten them or anything to even hook this up to an encoder board.
They rely on your video to mislead customers into thinking everything is included.
I assume they are using your video without your permission or you would have asked them to stop embedding it on their website to mis-advertise their product.
How are you controlling aim up and down in discs of tron with that spinner? I don't believe that spinner can be pulled up or pushed down.
This is an old video, but in Disc of Tron this spinner doesn't support push-pull as you mentioned. GRS later released a smaller push-pull button spinner to solve that problem .