You're very welcome and thank you for your kind words! For Super Sprint, you might also be interested in the Steering Wheel wagnerstechtalk.com/grs/#Steering_Wheel_for_GRS_Spinner
If I have a 4 player arcade cabinet using retropie. Can I add this setup and just plug it straight into raspberry pie? Or does it have to be connected to player 1s usb encoder? And if do, how would I do that? Thank you! Great video
You don't have to put the Pi in the case as shown here (here's another variation: ua-cam.com/video/2soNa6maghw/v-deo.html ).But yep, it's just USB into the Pi.
Hey... I am adding the GRS Spinner (TS-USP-01/02) and Trackball with the 12 in 1 Interface Board to my pc MAME machine. I want to make sure the dip switches and the jumper (in the trackball) are all configured correctly. On the spinner, it looks as though all 3 jumpers on the board should be ON. On the trackball, do I remove the jumper on the inside to remove the delay? I assume so, but just want to check. Once it's mounted, I don't want to pull it back out. Thanks!
How many buttons does a spinner require? looking to build a pinball cabinet where i can play pinball and vertical arcade games...so i will need a joystick on the left and spinner in the middle....was originally gonna only have the joystick with 3 buttons but wonder how many extra i will need for a spinner...is 2 enough?
It's not so much that a spinner requires a specific number of buttons, it's the game(s) you want to play. I'd say 3 buttons for most spinner games is likely more than enough (many, just one). But definitely do your own research on that one to make sure your cabinet covers what you are wanting to play.
Thanks for all you do. I’ve found a 3d printing service and am about to start this project with a raspberry pi 4. My question is would this panel work with the version 3 of the trackball that lights up and allows for changing sensitivity on the fly? Thanks
Very welcome! I've only tested it with the trackball in this video, I'm not sure if the version 3 will work. If the dimensions are the same, should be good. Also, I've been informed that the encoder I used here is no longer included in the package (I added a pinned comment). It's just something to make you aware of.
@@WagnersTechTalk thanks. I'm very new to this. I'm assuming you had to go to settings to install that Emulator and then the spinner in Tempest (for example) just appears in Dial Inc or Dial Dec as Left and Right? Or is it j:stick:x+ or j:stick:x-?
Did u have to configure any user binds or mice settings? Or just select advance Mame? I’m asking bc what about genes for Atari like kaboom where the spinner would be ideal ?
I just selected AdvancedMAME, nothing much to setup really. You can adjust sensitivity and stuff like that, if you want. I was only concerned with MAME, not so much for consoles. Here's some info, but doesn't dive into setup for the Atari: retropie.org.uk/docs/Spinners,-Trackballs,-Lightguns,-and-other-Mouse-Devices/
You definitely can. The unit I'm showing here used an extended control panel (x2 bases) plus the trackball and spinner. I could have also made it a dual stick and put the trackball+spinner in the middle. You can configure it however you want, see the pictures here for more examples of various ways (many more combinations are possible): wagnerstechtalk.com/opencade/#Our_Builds
In Batocera, within Emulation Station it can automatically categorize based on wheel games (spinner + trackball would fall under this category). I don't go into detail on that capability in this video ua-cam.com/video/WTiEyFboUJQ/v-deo.html , but it is an option and pretty handy. Also, if you search for "[emulator/system] spinner game list", you'll likely find what you're looking for. Example, this post has a pretty good list for MAME games: forums.launchbox-app.com/topic/50312-mame-trackball-playlist/?do=findComment&comment=319156
I have Centipede and the original track ball does not work bought it like that But I need new 1 and would love to do the spinner for bowling and golden tee
If you launch a game with AdvancedMAME as mentioned here: wagnerstechtalk.com/grs/#Add_a_Trackball_and_Spinner_to_OpenCADE it will pickup both the trackball and spinner automatically. It's more involved using lr-mame 2003 but you can read more about that here, if interested: github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/Spinners,-Trackballs,-Lightguns,-and-other-Mouse-Devices Hope this is helpful!
Any way the spinner will work in a regular arcade? I have both arkanoid arcade pcbs I’d love to play them but I have no way and I just found the arcade1up spinner if you think it should work please let me know what your thoughts are thanks!!!
The spinner was designed for Arcade machines as well as A1UP. However, I'll refer you to the expert, Glen himself who can be found and contacted here: www.glensretroshow.com/contact/
Hi, I wonder if you can add a few more arcade buttons (such as start, select/coin, A and B) into the spinner/trackball combo. I know you can plug in another arcade stick into the second USB port. But I would like to have this as one USB controller.
You have the option to print a base with holes for Start/Select (or solid). You can also customize the spinner+trackball panel easily by importing the .stl file into Microsoft 3D Builder (free) and cut any holes needed. Lots of options 👍😎
@@WagnersTechTalk Hi, thanks for your answer. I was actually asking if I can have one controller panel with a trackball, a spinner and four arcade buttons, with just one USB output (connected to the pi), and if this is possible, which encoder board should I get? Thanks.
The only buttons and sticks I used can be found here: wagnerstechtalk.com/opencade/#Parts_youll_need_for_your_build , you'll need to connect the 12-in-1 USB cable and the encoder for the buttons to something (Pi, PC, etc.) You could buy a dual USB cable (x2 female inputs) with one USB (male) output cable and use that. You could also use a small USB hub. Just a few ideas.
Hi how are you connecting the trackball . I have a cabinet set up With Arcade Game DIY Parts, Arcade Game Joystick Zero Delay USB Encoder Board Push Buttons Cables for MAME PC Game Fight Joystick…. It where would I plug the trackpad into . Thanks
I used the 12-in-1 interface board shown here: wagnerstechtalk.com/grs/#Add_a_Trackball_and_Spinner_to_OpenCADE However, it appears it's no longer available. This question is likely best for Glen here: www.glensretroshow.com/contact . The board I mention in this video is the only one I have experience for use with the GRS trackball and spinner.
Ok. I know I've asked you a different question but I have another. Ok, so I built a 4 player game table with 8 buttons each with the control sticks. I play on a home theater projector. It's bigger then trying to get so many people around a small arcade 1up. So I have however changed my original concept. I recently purchased glens diy retro arcade Tron control panel and his Tron stick, trackball and spinner. I am going to build a portable "controller" with it so I can hook it up and unhook it basically like a controller. My question is.. how do I hook everything together and have it function properly when it connected to everything? I did get the connector piece that you have in this video. I just can't picture everything I need to do. It seems like a bit more technical then the standard stick and buttons. Any advice is appreciated. Thank you.
You would basically set everything up shown here, you may want a single USB cable connection going to your Pi/PC. For that, you can use a small unpowered 4 port USB hub mounted inside the control panel. Then, have one USB cable coming out the back/top notch. I'd use a cable tie or electrical tape behind the notch to make sure the cable doesn't pull out of the hub. Hope that answers your question, I may not be visualizing your idea 100% correct.
@@WagnersTechTalk I think you are correct. In my head that's how I was planning on connecting everything. Basically I want a portable Tron arcade panel. Thank you I appreciate everything. I kinda wish I could share pictures of my concepts with you.
@@WagnersTechTalk ya the Tron stick I got off of Amazon looks like it only has connections for the atgames arcade. It's really disappointing. Nothing is matching up or makes any sense. If there are two different sticks you would think they would say that in the description before you purchase one.
I assume that is I don't have a 3D printer (not do I want to 3D print) but am making a control panel with wood, then adding the trackball and spinner will still work? My guess is I will need to screw the trackball from the top, which is not ideal but may be required. Ideas on that?
Yeah, you can use wood and everything you see in the video would still apply if you're making your own wooden control panel. The only difference is, with the 3D model you don't have to measure anything - it's all done for you. If it's wood, you'll have to make all the measurements, layout, etc. The electronics aspect and functionality is all the same. Hope this helps!
Totally new to this, Just purchased a Pandora 3D console, it has additional usb ports for game controllers, was wanting to know if its possible to add the spinner control to the console and what the process would be.
In this video I only tested this on a Raspberry Pi. May want to check with Glen here to double-check: www.glensretroshow.com/contact I believe that's what Glen used on his videos (Win10), but best to check with him.
hi there , thanks for the video .i am new to all this and i am sorry to ask but how would you set up / make the fire buttons ect work with the setup when you have no inputs for them on the usb controller card. how did you connect it all together in your setup as i would like to make a complete 1 player setup, also do you know if these trackballs and spinners work with ipac 4 boards please help thanks
This spinner and trackball are designed with the 12-in-1 Interface board you see in the video. You can find full instructions here with everything you need : wagnerstechtalk.com/grs/#Add_a_Trackball_and_Spinner_to_OpenCADE I use Advanced MAME 1.4 for trackball/spinner games and it was pretty much plug and play. But, do check out the instructions. Hope this helps!
Question. Is it possible to have 4 joystick's 10 buttons for each player 1 track ball, 1 spinner and 1 Tron flight stick to one raspberry pi 4?? If it is possible how do you do it??? Thank you.
I don't see any reason why not, you'd likely need to get a powered USB Hub to support all the controllers and buttons. Each stick+buttons would go to 1 encoder. Then, connect the trackball+spinner to the interface board which is USB to the Pi. Keep in mind, the most I've done is x2 sticks and 1 trackball+spinner, but see no reason why adding x2 more sticks would be a problem.
@@WagnersTechTalk thank you. I haven't done anything like this. But.. I have an idea of what I want to accomplish. Should be interesting. Thank you again.
How does MAME know which controller to use for each individual game? When you opened Centipede, it seemed to know that you wanted to use the trackball. Do you have to configure each game individually to make that selection? I'm trying to do a Pi setup with only trackball and spinner games, but I'm not sure how to configure it properly!
If you use AdvanceMAME, then I found there no real setup needed. You can tweak the settings if you want by pressing the TAB key, but it was super-easy. Now, if you want to use lr-mame2003 it can get a bit more complicated. I basically just put all the trackball+spinner aware games in the adavancedMAME subfolder, restart emulation station and tweak to my liking. You could also check out these instructions for more details if don't want to use advancedMAME: retropie.org.uk/docs/Spinners,-Trackballs,-Lightguns,-and-other-Mouse-Devices/
@@ut4321 Thank you Trey! Yes Sir, press TAB to bring up the menu. I have written instructions here as well: wagnerstechtalk.com/grs/#Add_a_Trackball_and_Spinner_to_OpenCADE
Does this only work with advanced mame? I'm trying to use the grs spinner with the 12 in 1 board on retropie using "arcade" and I get absolutely no response from the spinner
Hi Doug, Advanced Mame is the easiest to use. Other emulators require a bit more tweaking, so I stuck with the easy way to prove it all works. You can read more about trackball/spinner support here: retropie.org.uk/docs/Spinners,-Trackballs,-Lightguns,-and-other-Mouse-Devices/
I have a weird project in mind and I'm not sure if it can be done. I have the new Atari VCS. By adding just a USB stick drive you can set it to run in PC mode. You can then add windows 10. If you replaced the stick with an external hard drive you could load win 10, emulation, and game Roms. Basically making it a small emulation arcade. What I want to do is build a cabinet to house and display it. Add an LCD monitor. And build a USB controller deck for it. Ideally I'd like a two player deck. Enough buttons to play most games. And it needs a trackball and spinner. But I'm lost on where to go and what to do to build a deck like that. Any ideas/suggestions?
The GRS Super Joystick might be an option for you. You can setup two for two-player gaming. However, it's a rotary joystick (can work as a spinner) and a joystick and includes 6 buttons. It doesn't have a trackball included, but you could build your own custom housing and add one (GRS sells some great trackballs too). You can see my video on the GRS Super Joystick here: ua-cam.com/video/0R99uVKE-EY/v-deo.html to see if it's something of interest to you.
In addition to the video, I also have some instructions and parts needed on my website: wagnerstechtalk.com/grs/#Add_a_Trackball_and_Spinner_to_OpenCADE It steps through most everything there, while it focuses on OpenCADE it doesn't have to be. Same steps apply to whatever custom build you're making. Hope this helps!
@@WagnersTechTalk ok so I'm new to this just an 80s gamer. So the console I bought states its a.bree? Not sure again if this would interfere I basically want to add and.bolt your box to my box.and interface it to mine. So what exactly would I need and would it work for me. Thxs.again Mike
Hi Mike, I've only used this setup with a Raspberry Pi and brief test with a PC. While it may work with what you have (trenz console) over USB, I don't know because I don't own one and infact never used one. You might ask the manufacturer if it's compatible with the GRS Trackball and spinner. If it is, then you could print an OpenCADE box and panel for the spinner and trackball and attach it over USB to your game console. But again, not familiar with their product.
Hey Glen, nice video. I have actually added the spinner to a A1U Asteroids setup. I also have a Galaga A1U that I converted to a Blee 60 In 1. It's fantastic however the Breakout game is unplayable with joystick. I was looking to add your spinner but the board calls for a 6 wire plug. Any plans on doing a spinner that would be compatible with a Blee 60 in 1 setup?
Hi Joe, glad you enjoyed the video! This is Wagner's TechTalk. You can reach Glen here: www.glensretroshow.com/contact or here ua-cam.com/users/gplanamento
I purchased a arcade pedestal with raspberry pi 4, the trackball is installed wired ready to go, but doesn’t work , was told needed to be set up with keyboard, I have keyboard don’t know what to do? Please help
No estoy seguro de a qué te refieres con placa. Si tiene preguntas sobre la disponibilidad, comuníquese con Glen en www.glensretroshow.com/contact/ ¡Espero que esto ayude!
Thank you for watching! I don't own any light guns (yet), hoping to acquire one this year sometime though. I have several devices I'd like to try one out on.
Guide for the AimTrak light-gun is here: wagnerstechtalk.com/al-aimtrak , video will be coming later this week. What type of gun did you wind up getting?
Hi there. I've got the trackball and the spinner - threw them in a vertical cabinet. Everything works except I cannot get the spinner to speed up - I've tried to crank the sensitivity and the digital speed all the way. This does improve the spinner speed but no where near what you're showing up there for tempest. Also, as an example I've tested with arknoidu/2 and same thing. I can also use the trackball at the same time as the spinner in Arknoid. The trackball seems pretty decent as long as I crank up the speed and sensitivity but spinner is still really slow. I've got this in an RPI 3B+ using advmame1.4 (even from a command line). Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
Hi Sam, I documented everything I did here: wagnerstechtalk.com/grs/#Add_a_Trackball_and_Spinner_to_OpenCADE Please read it over, make sure you have the dip-switch settings correct on the interface board. There are also settings for AdvancedMAME recorded on that page. If none of this helps, my recommendation would be to reach out to Glen at ua-cam.com/users/gplanamento He's a great guy, always super-helpful and best of all knows the hardware details (spinner/trackball/interface board) way better than I :)
@@WagnersTechTalk Thank you - this worked perfectly. It was the dip switches - they are so small that I thought I had put in the right orientation but I was wrong. I missed 1. Alas - all is well. Appreciate your help with this. Thanks again.
I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean by a delay in counting this. If you mean delays in the controls, it's likely due to the image. Are you using a fresh install of RetroPie or a pre-made image?
Wagner's TechTalk that meant to say a delay when doing this. The spinner seams to have a slight delay on Arkanoid and other games. Not sure if settings need to be changed.
I didn't have any issues with the spinner, all my settings I documented here: wagnerstechtalk.com/grs/#RetroPie_Configuration_AdvancedMAME May want to reach out to Glen and see if he has any recommendations. Perhaps comment on this video and ask: ua-cam.com/video/28pVrcMjIAU/v-deo.html
Hi guys, this video is fantastic, but could you by any chance sell a USB arcade stick (not too bulky) that has both a TRACKBALL and a SPINNER? to use on my MAC. But even just SPINNER is fine, for me it would also be fantastic to have an ATARi 2600 PADDLE (my favorite) converted to USB... because I bought it, with a USB adapter cable, but I can't make it work. Hello from Italy :)
You may want to reach out to tsticks directly, I only designed the 3D printed case. All the parts that went into it were from GRS/tsticks. You can find their contact details here: thunderstickstudio.com/pages/contact-us . Thank you for watching!
Amazon is the only place I'm aware of, you might try asking Glen on his YT channel here: ua-cam.com/users/gplanamento He's probably just out of stock after the holidays.
@@WagnersTechTalk I was about to post the same thing about Amazon being sold out. Do you think this one will work just as well? arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-spinner
at 10:36 in your video you show the input menu and it shows "dial Analog" is set to none. how is the spinner working with this set to none? My retro pi sees my spinner but none of the emulators do.
Honestly don't recall, it's been awhile since this video was created. However, I will be updating it with some new components in the next month. Glen sent a new set of stuff to try out.
lol Thank you Oscar! The models may be downloaded and printed for free. I didn't design it to make money from it and I'm definitely not setup for mass-printing of it. Many libraries have printers you can use, friends/family that have one, etc. I don't recommend using the print services, they'll charge a lot to print it. Hope this helps!
The main problem here is that all the MAME advances the Pi has got, over the last few years, has been in Mame2003+, while Advance Mame 1.4 is old. Problem is, I haven't found a way to get a trackball working in Mame2003+, despite following all the guides and forum posts.
True, but it's super-easy to copy the roms to the Advance Mame folder that utilize the trackball and spinner as opposed to getting Mame2003+ to work. I spent some time with Mame2003+ and it was a PITA. Just using Advanced MAME for the games that need trackball and spinner was the way to go, at least for me. SOOO much easier and worked just fine.
Anyone have any idea how to get spinner working on a PC NOT arcade 1` up boards. Windows don't see it flipped switches on . Only have 1 wire from running from the Spinner to the 12 in 1and USB connected to the PC. I know there is a another wire but it's useless one side fits in the 12 in 1 but other side is useless none of my USB boards have that type connection. Figured USB would provide the the data between them.
In this video I used the encoder that came with the spinner, however not sure if it is still included (I've heard it's not). Best to reach out to GRS Technical support here: www.glensretroshow.com/contact/
Hi! Can you help me making the same? Can you make one and sell to me? I live in Brazil and everything is 3 times difficult to find and to import... Thanks and congratulations for the GREAT job!
Thank you for your kind words! I'm sorry, I only design stuff and allow anyone to download/print it for free. I'm not equipped to manufacture/resell/package/support, etc. Not sure about Brazil, but here in the US there are many libraries that have 3D Printers that allow the public to print items. Perhaps that might be an option for you? Another option would be friends/relatives that may have a 3D printer that wouldn't mind printing for you. I hope some of these options will work for you, I love seeing pictures/videos from people that make their own OpenCADE!
Make sure the rom(set) you are using matches the version of MAME that you're running. If launching the game doesn't work, that means one of the two is not correct.
Like we're gonna assume everybody has a 3D printer which majority do not. The problem with Glenn's trackball is you can't just mount to any panel board. The screw is set in the middle where it makes it difficult to mount on any flat surface.
Maybe you've not seen his upgrade kit for use with Legend's Ultimate amzn.to/2V2wg9i He has great controls, I just so happen to have a 3D Printer and designed this stuff to work with his. You can have the cases printed (link on thingiverse will send it to someone else to print/send to you), your public library (well, not now but normally) or print it yourself. Tons of options. That's the whole point of OpenCADE is to have options that make it configurable. I don't assume it's for everyone, only those who are interested...
Hi Brandon, that's why the Expansion Pack was added: wagnerstechtalk.com/opencade/#Included_in_the_Expansion_Pack There is a solid Control Panel which just has the screw holes. Using that, you can use any program (like the free 3D Builder from Microsoft) to drill holes wherever you want them. It provides you with an easy option to build it however you want. I'm also happy to host the information/models that anyone comes up with on my site. The good news is everything I can provide is freely available and extendable.
I didn't test it in Windows 10, only on RetroPie. For RetroPie, here are the dip switch settings: wagnerstechtalk.com/grs/#Control_Panel_Assembly_Instructions It may/may not be the same for Windows. If this doesn't help, reach out to Glen for assistance (Glen's Retro Show on YT).
@@WagnersTechTalk appreciate the response. I have it plugged into a USB breakout cable right now. I'm going to plug it into its own powered slot when I get home. Fingers crossed! Ready to play some tempest!
@@WagnersTechTalk I got it running! I had to use 3rd party USB device viewer to find it. It was installed and listed as a mouse device but unresponsive. I ended up rolling back the driver and it works fine now. MAME is still giving me some grief but I'll get it figured out.
Are you talking about the case or the trackball? I've found the trackball to work quite well myself. I believe a new version is coming soon, however. GRS is constantly making improvements.
@@WagnersTechTalk His trackball. It does not feel as solid when you roll it. It feels shakey compared to the cheap chinese $30 trackball where it feels more grippy and solid when you roll it.
Cool
I shared it to the retropie group
Thank you so much!
Great video. Thanks for sharing. That spinner knob is huge!
Thank you so much! I'd love to use the spinner for Championship Sprint / Super Sprint
and great intro too =)
You're very welcome and thank you for your kind words! For Super Sprint, you might also be interested in the Steering Wheel wagnerstechtalk.com/grs/#Steering_Wheel_for_GRS_Spinner
i guess Im kind of off topic but do anyone know a good website to stream newly released series online?
If I have a 4 player arcade cabinet using retropie. Can I add this setup and just plug it straight into raspberry pie? Or does it have to be connected to player 1s usb encoder? And if do, how would I do that?
Thank you! Great video
You don't have to put the Pi in the case as shown here (here's another variation: ua-cam.com/video/2soNa6maghw/v-deo.html ).But yep, it's just USB into the Pi.
Could you please tell me if the trackball is 2" or 3"? I'm thinking about replacing my current non -lit trackball. Thanks for posting this.👍
This one appears to be 2"
Hey... I am adding the GRS Spinner (TS-USP-01/02) and Trackball with the 12 in 1 Interface Board to my pc MAME machine. I want to make sure the dip switches and the jumper (in the trackball) are all configured correctly. On the spinner, it looks as though all 3 jumpers on the board should be ON. On the trackball, do I remove the jumper on the inside to remove the delay? I assume so, but just want to check. Once it's mounted, I don't want to pull it back out. Thanks!
Glen's products are being improved frequently, for the best answer please contact Glen here: www.glensretroshow.com/contact
How many buttons does a spinner require? looking to build a pinball cabinet where i can play pinball and vertical arcade games...so i will need a joystick on the left and spinner in the middle....was originally gonna only have the joystick with 3 buttons but wonder how many extra i will need for a spinner...is 2 enough?
It's not so much that a spinner requires a specific number of buttons, it's the game(s) you want to play. I'd say 3 buttons for most spinner games is likely more than enough (many, just one). But definitely do your own research on that one to make sure your cabinet covers what you are wanting to play.
@@WagnersTechTalk thanks for the info...keep up the great videos
Thanks for all you do. I’ve found a 3d printing service and am about to start this project with a raspberry pi 4. My question is would this panel work with the version 3 of the trackball that lights up and allows for changing sensitivity on the fly? Thanks
Very welcome! I've only tested it with the trackball in this video, I'm not sure if the version 3 will work. If the dimensions are the same, should be good. Also, I've been informed that the encoder I used here is no longer included in the package (I added a pinned comment). It's just something to make you aware of.
Oh my god. I need this
So when you first plugged it in you don't have to "configure controller" for the trackball or spinner? Its automatic for AdvancedMame?
Yes, in Advanced Mame I didn't have to do anything special for the trackball and spinner.
@@WagnersTechTalk thanks. I'm very new to this. I'm assuming you had to go to settings to install that Emulator and then the spinner in Tempest (for example) just appears in Dial Inc or Dial Dec as Left and Right? Or is it j:stick:x+ or j:stick:x-?
Did u have to configure any user binds or mice settings? Or just select advance Mame? I’m asking bc what about genes for Atari like kaboom where the spinner would be ideal ?
I just selected AdvancedMAME, nothing much to setup really. You can adjust sensitivity and stuff like that, if you want. I was only concerned with MAME, not so much for consoles. Here's some info, but doesn't dive into setup for the Atari: retropie.org.uk/docs/Spinners,-Trackballs,-Lightguns,-and-other-Mouse-Devices/
Hi I am building my arcade machine from a pc using big Box.Will this set up work on big Box?
All connections here are USB-connected, no reason it shouldn't work but I've not personally used Big Box. It's on my to-do for the future though.
Can u add another joystick on the other side of the track ball spinning box?
You definitely can. The unit I'm showing here used an extended control panel (x2 bases) plus the trackball and spinner. I could have also made it a dual stick and put the trackball+spinner in the middle. You can configure it however you want, see the pictures here for more examples of various ways (many more combinations are possible): wagnerstechtalk.com/opencade/#Our_Builds
Do we have a list of games that use spinner and trackball?
In Batocera, within Emulation Station it can automatically categorize based on wheel games (spinner + trackball would fall under this category). I don't go into detail on that capability in this video ua-cam.com/video/WTiEyFboUJQ/v-deo.html , but it is an option and pretty handy. Also, if you search for "[emulator/system] spinner game list", you'll likely find what you're looking for. Example, this post has a pretty good list for MAME games: forums.launchbox-app.com/topic/50312-mame-trackball-playlist/?do=findComment&comment=319156
I have Centipede and the original track ball does not work bought it like that
But I need new 1 and would love to do the spinner for bowling and golden tee
Does the spinner have to be plugged into player 1 to be used on retropie. If so how do u toggle between joystick and spinner games
If you launch a game with AdvancedMAME as mentioned here: wagnerstechtalk.com/grs/#Add_a_Trackball_and_Spinner_to_OpenCADE it will pickup both the trackball and spinner automatically. It's more involved using lr-mame 2003 but you can read more about that here, if interested: github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/Spinners,-Trackballs,-Lightguns,-and-other-Mouse-Devices
Hope this is helpful!
Any way the spinner will work in a regular arcade? I have both arkanoid arcade pcbs I’d love to play them but I have no way and I just found the arcade1up spinner if you think it should work please let me know what your thoughts are thanks!!!
The spinner was designed for Arcade machines as well as A1UP. However, I'll refer you to the expert, Glen himself who can be found and contacted here: www.glensretroshow.com/contact/
@@WagnersTechTalk thank you so much!
Hi, I wonder if you can add a few more arcade buttons (such as start, select/coin, A and B) into the spinner/trackball combo. I know you can plug in another arcade stick into the second USB port. But I would like to have this as one USB controller.
You have the option to print a base with holes for Start/Select (or solid). You can also customize the spinner+trackball panel easily by importing the .stl file into Microsoft 3D Builder (free) and cut any holes needed. Lots of options 👍😎
@@WagnersTechTalk Hi, thanks for your answer. I was actually asking if I can have one controller panel with a trackball, a spinner and four arcade buttons, with just one USB output (connected to the pi), and if this is possible, which encoder board should I get? Thanks.
The only buttons and sticks I used can be found here: wagnerstechtalk.com/opencade/#Parts_youll_need_for_your_build , you'll need to connect the 12-in-1 USB cable and the encoder for the buttons to something (Pi, PC, etc.) You could buy a dual USB cable (x2 female inputs) with one USB (male) output cable and use that. You could also use a small USB hub. Just a few ideas.
Hi how are you connecting the trackball . I have a cabinet set up With
Arcade Game DIY Parts, Arcade Game Joystick Zero Delay USB Encoder Board Push Buttons Cables for MAME PC Game Fight Joystick…. It where would I plug the trackpad into . Thanks
I used the 12-in-1 interface board shown here: wagnerstechtalk.com/grs/#Add_a_Trackball_and_Spinner_to_OpenCADE However, it appears it's no longer available. This question is likely best for Glen here: www.glensretroshow.com/contact . The board I mention in this video is the only one I have experience for use with the GRS trackball and spinner.
@@WagnersTechTalk many thanks for the reply ..will try it all when track ball arrives .
Ok. I know I've asked you a different question but I have another. Ok, so I built a 4 player game table with 8 buttons each with the control sticks. I play on a home theater projector. It's bigger then trying to get so many people around a small arcade 1up. So I have however changed my original concept. I recently purchased glens diy retro arcade Tron control panel and his Tron stick, trackball and spinner. I am going to build a portable "controller" with it so I can hook it up and unhook it basically like a controller. My question is.. how do I hook everything together and have it function properly when it connected to everything? I did get the connector piece that you have in this video. I just can't picture everything I need to do. It seems like a bit more technical then the standard stick and buttons.
Any advice is appreciated. Thank you.
You would basically set everything up shown here, you may want a single USB cable connection going to your Pi/PC. For that, you can use a small unpowered 4 port USB hub mounted inside the control panel. Then, have one USB cable coming out the back/top notch. I'd use a cable tie or electrical tape behind the notch to make sure the cable doesn't pull out of the hub. Hope that answers your question, I may not be visualizing your idea 100% correct.
@@WagnersTechTalk I think you are correct. In my head that's how I was planning on connecting everything. Basically I want a portable Tron arcade panel. Thank you I appreciate everything. I kinda wish I could share pictures of my concepts with you.
@@WagnersTechTalk ya the Tron stick I got off of Amazon looks like it only has connections for the atgames arcade. It's really disappointing. Nothing is matching up or makes any sense. If there are two different sticks you would think they would say that in the description before you purchase one.
I assume that is I don't have a 3D printer (not do I want to 3D print) but am making a control panel with wood, then adding the trackball and spinner will still work? My guess is I will need to screw the trackball from the top, which is not ideal but may be required. Ideas on that?
Yeah, you can use wood and everything you see in the video would still apply if you're making your own wooden control panel. The only difference is, with the 3D model you don't have to measure anything - it's all done for you. If it's wood, you'll have to make all the measurements, layout, etc. The electronics aspect and functionality is all the same. Hope this helps!
Totally new to this, Just purchased a Pandora 3D console, it has additional usb ports for game controllers, was wanting to know if its possible to add the spinner control to the console and what the process would be.
I don't own a Pandora 3D so I can't help with what it's capable of. May want to check with the manufacturer for their recommendations.
@spudthegreater Did you ever figure this out? I have the same question!
@Tyler Robertson No, im sorry, its been on the back burner as far as projects go.
Do Spinner + Interface board support MAME (under Windows 10 64bits with USB3.0)?
In this video I only tested this on a Raspberry Pi. May want to check with Glen here to double-check: www.glensretroshow.com/contact I believe that's what Glen used on his videos (Win10), but best to check with him.
hi there , thanks for the video .i am new to all this and i am sorry to ask but how would you set up / make the fire buttons ect work with the setup when you have no inputs for them on the usb controller card. how did you connect it all together in your setup as i would like to make a complete 1 player setup, also do you know if these trackballs and spinners work with ipac 4 boards please help thanks
This spinner and trackball are designed with the 12-in-1 Interface board you see in the video. You can find full instructions here with everything you need : wagnerstechtalk.com/grs/#Add_a_Trackball_and_Spinner_to_OpenCADE I use Advanced MAME 1.4 for trackball/spinner games and it was pretty much plug and play. But, do check out the instructions. Hope this helps!
You showed the spinner setting. Curious what you use for trackball
I don't recall making any changes for the trackball. I think it was fine as-is.
Question. Is it possible to have 4 joystick's 10 buttons for each player 1 track ball, 1 spinner and 1 Tron flight stick to one raspberry pi 4?? If it is possible how do you do it??? Thank you.
I don't see any reason why not, you'd likely need to get a powered USB Hub to support all the controllers and buttons. Each stick+buttons would go to 1 encoder. Then, connect the trackball+spinner to the interface board which is USB to the Pi. Keep in mind, the most I've done is x2 sticks and 1 trackball+spinner, but see no reason why adding x2 more sticks would be a problem.
@@WagnersTechTalk thank you. I haven't done anything like this. But.. I have an idea of what I want to accomplish. Should be interesting. Thank you again.
How does MAME know which controller to use for each individual game? When you opened Centipede, it seemed to know that you wanted to use the trackball. Do you have to configure each game individually to make that selection? I'm trying to do a Pi setup with only trackball and spinner games, but I'm not sure how to configure it properly!
If you use AdvanceMAME, then I found there no real setup needed. You can tweak the settings if you want by pressing the TAB key, but it was super-easy. Now, if you want to use lr-mame2003 it can get a bit more complicated. I basically just put all the trackball+spinner aware games in the adavancedMAME subfolder, restart emulation station and tweak to my liking. You could also check out these instructions for more details if don't want to use advancedMAME: retropie.org.uk/docs/Spinners,-Trackballs,-Lightguns,-and-other-Mouse-Devices/
@@WagnersTechTalk Great video. Question, sir: did you press TAB to get the config menu seen at 10:24 in the video? Thanks!
@@ut4321 Thank you Trey! Yes Sir, press TAB to bring up the menu. I have written instructions here as well: wagnerstechtalk.com/grs/#Add_a_Trackball_and_Spinner_to_OpenCADE
@@WagnersTechTalk Perfect, thank you sir! Really appreciate how clear you make the steps. I'm itching to get started on this project!
Does this only work with advanced mame? I'm trying to use the grs spinner with the 12 in 1 board on retropie using "arcade" and I get absolutely no response from the spinner
Hi Doug, Advanced Mame is the easiest to use. Other emulators require a bit more tweaking, so I stuck with the easy way to prove it all works. You can read more about trackball/spinner support here: retropie.org.uk/docs/Spinners,-Trackballs,-Lightguns,-and-other-Mouse-Devices/
That intro was funny
Any chance the interface board works with the Legends Ultimate cabinet?
I don't own an ALU so I can't answer this, however my buddy Glen should be able to here: www.glensretroshow.com/contact
@@WagnersTechTalk thanks!
I have a weird project in mind and I'm not sure if it can be done. I have the new Atari VCS. By adding just a USB stick drive you can set it to run in PC mode. You can then add windows 10. If you replaced the stick with an external hard drive you could load win 10, emulation, and game Roms. Basically making it a small emulation arcade. What I want to do is build a cabinet to house and display it. Add an LCD monitor. And build a USB controller deck for it. Ideally I'd like a two player deck. Enough buttons to play most games. And it needs a trackball and spinner. But I'm lost on where to go and what to do to build a deck like that. Any ideas/suggestions?
The GRS Super Joystick might be an option for you. You can setup two for two-player gaming. However, it's a rotary joystick (can work as a spinner) and a joystick and includes 6 buttons. It doesn't have a trackball included, but you could build your own custom housing and add one (GRS sells some great trackballs too). You can see my video on the GRS Super Joystick here: ua-cam.com/video/0R99uVKE-EY/v-deo.html to see if it's something of interest to you.
Hi I just bought a todayz trenz console and I would like to add a trackball an maybe a spinner. Any advice would like to wire internally. Thxs Mike
In addition to the video, I also have some instructions and parts needed on my website: wagnerstechtalk.com/grs/#Add_a_Trackball_and_Spinner_to_OpenCADE It steps through most everything there, while it focuses on OpenCADE it doesn't have to be. Same steps apply to whatever custom build you're making. Hope this helps!
@@WagnersTechTalk ok so I'm new to this just an 80s gamer. So the console I bought states its a.bree? Not sure again if this would interfere I basically want to add and.bolt your box to my box.and interface it to mine. So what exactly would I need and would it work for me. Thxs.again Mike
Hi Mike, I've only used this setup with a Raspberry Pi and brief test with a PC. While it may work with what you have (trenz console) over USB, I don't know because I don't own one and infact never used one. You might ask the manufacturer if it's compatible with the GRS Trackball and spinner. If it is, then you could print an OpenCADE box and panel for the spinner and trackball and attach it over USB to your game console. But again, not familiar with their product.
@@WagnersTechTalk thanks!!!
Where can I find the control panel with the right dimensions
Not sure what you're asking, this video is about 3d printing the control panel to use with Glen's Trackball and spinner.
@@WagnersTechTalk the blue board in the video where can I get one
If you're talking about the Interface board, you can find it here: wagnerstechtalk.com/grs/#Add_a_Trackball_and_Spinner_to_OpenCADE
Would this work with Omega Race?
Hey Glen, nice video. I have actually added the spinner to a A1U Asteroids setup. I also have a Galaga A1U that I converted to a Blee 60 In 1. It's fantastic however the Breakout game is unplayable with joystick. I was looking to add your spinner but the board calls for a 6 wire plug. Any plans on doing a spinner that would be compatible with a Blee 60 in 1 setup?
Hi Joe, glad you enjoyed the video! This is Wagner's TechTalk. You can reach Glen here: www.glensretroshow.com/contact or here ua-cam.com/users/gplanamento
Nice set up...wish you had a simple set of drawing with dimensions so I can built this in all one piece complete unit.
You could attach the pieces in your splicer, then print. I used the full size of my print bed for this, no room to print more than one at a time.
I purchased a arcade pedestal with raspberry pi 4, the trackball is installed wired ready to go, but doesn’t work , was told needed to be set up with keyboard, I have keyboard don’t know what to do? Please help
hola donde consigo esa placa amigo, gracias
No estoy seguro de a qué te refieres con placa. Si tiene preguntas sobre la disponibilidad, comuníquese con Glen en www.glensretroshow.com/contact/ ¡Espero que esto ayude!
This spinner looks awesome~ nicely built with quality. Just wondering, anybody can recommend a real light gun?
Thank you for watching! I don't own any light guns (yet), hoping to acquire one this year sometime though. I have several devices I'd like to try one out on.
@@WagnersTechTalk Be sure to upload your vid when you have it~ I'm supposed to have one for test soon and we can do a thorough review together.
Guide for the AimTrak light-gun is here: wagnerstechtalk.com/al-aimtrak , video will be coming later this week. What type of gun did you wind up getting?
Hi there. I've got the trackball and the spinner - threw them in a vertical cabinet. Everything works except I cannot get the spinner to speed up - I've tried to crank the sensitivity and the digital speed all the way. This does improve the spinner speed but no where near what you're showing up there for tempest. Also, as an example I've tested with arknoidu/2 and same thing. I can also use the trackball at the same time as the spinner in Arknoid. The trackball seems pretty decent as long as I crank up the speed and sensitivity but spinner is still really slow. I've got this in an RPI 3B+ using advmame1.4 (even from a command line). Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
Hi Sam, I documented everything I did here: wagnerstechtalk.com/grs/#Add_a_Trackball_and_Spinner_to_OpenCADE Please read it over, make sure you have the dip-switch settings correct on the interface board. There are also settings for AdvancedMAME recorded on that page. If none of this helps, my recommendation would be to reach out to Glen at ua-cam.com/users/gplanamento He's a great guy, always super-helpful and best of all knows the hardware details (spinner/trackball/interface board) way better than I :)
@@WagnersTechTalk Thank you so much. I will give all the info a try and see if that corrects my issue. Appreciate the response.
@@WagnersTechTalk Thank you - this worked perfectly. It was the dip switches - they are so small that I thought I had put in the right orientation but I was wrong. I missed 1. Alas - all is well. Appreciate your help with this. Thanks again.
@@ssingh1234 You're very welcome, happy I could help!
I’m experiencing a slight delay when count this. Anyway of fixing it
I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean by a delay in counting this. If you mean delays in the controls, it's likely due to the image. Are you using a fresh install of RetroPie or a pre-made image?
Wagner's TechTalk that meant to say a delay when doing this. The spinner seams to have a slight delay on Arkanoid and other games. Not sure if settings need to be changed.
I didn't have any issues with the spinner, all my settings I documented here: wagnerstechtalk.com/grs/#RetroPie_Configuration_AdvancedMAME May want to reach out to Glen and see if he has any recommendations. Perhaps comment on this video and ask: ua-cam.com/video/28pVrcMjIAU/v-deo.html
Hi guys, this video is fantastic, but could you by any chance sell a USB arcade stick (not too bulky) that has both a TRACKBALL and a SPINNER? to use on my MAC.
But even just SPINNER is fine, for me it would also be fantastic to have an ATARi 2600 PADDLE (my favorite) converted to USB... because I bought it, with a USB adapter cable, but I can't make it work.
Hello from Italy :)
You may want to reach out to tsticks directly, I only designed the 3D printed case. All the parts that went into it were from GRS/tsticks. You can find their contact details here: thunderstickstudio.com/pages/contact-us . Thank you for watching!
Spinner and board are sold out on amazon where else can i purchase then from ?
Amazon is the only place I'm aware of, you might try asking Glen on his YT channel here: ua-cam.com/users/gplanamento He's probably just out of stock after the holidays.
Board is back in stock, Jan 17th: amzn.to/2SPBX8c . The spinner is currently still unavailable.
@@WagnersTechTalk I was about to post the same thing about Amazon being sold out. Do you think this one will work just as well? arcade1up.com/products/asteroids-spinner
at 10:36 in your video you show the input menu and it shows "dial Analog" is set to none. how is the spinner working with this set to none? My retro pi sees my spinner but none of the emulators do.
It apparently ignores this setting. I documented all the steps that I used here: wagnerstechtalk.com/grs/#RetroPie_Configuration_AdvancedMAME
can anyone help me ..im looking to install a 3inch trackball to a pandora box 9d..how do i hard wire it to work. can someone please help
Hi, I don't own one so can't help there. You might try posting your question on Reddit somewhere. Perhaps here: www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming
Does the track ball work with sega sonic the hedgehog?
Honestly don't recall, it's been awhile since this video was created. However, I will be updating it with some new components in the next month. Glen sent a new set of stuff to try out.
@@WagnersTechTalk awesome, great content. Im looking foward to it!
Did you get a chance to test it?
OMG! I want one!!!! Sell me one, please!!! What a great video.
lol Thank you Oscar! The models may be downloaded and printed for free. I didn't design it to make money from it and I'm definitely not setup for mass-printing of it. Many libraries have printers you can use, friends/family that have one, etc. I don't recommend using the print services, they'll charge a lot to print it. Hope this helps!
The main problem here is that all the MAME advances the Pi has got, over the last few years, has been in Mame2003+, while Advance Mame 1.4 is old.
Problem is, I haven't found a way to get a trackball working in Mame2003+, despite following all the guides and forum posts.
True, but it's super-easy to copy the roms to the Advance Mame folder that utilize the trackball and spinner as opposed to getting Mame2003+ to work. I spent some time with Mame2003+ and it was a PITA. Just using Advanced MAME for the games that need trackball and spinner was the way to go, at least for me. SOOO much easier and worked just fine.
More units to come??!!!
I've asked Glen, I honestly don't know. Once I hear back I'll reply here.
@@WagnersTechTalk Tank you !
@@chriger3504 Glen replied with: tell anyone that it will be restocked and to check www.glensretroshow.com for availability
@@WagnersTechTalk And ... bought! :)
Anyone have any idea how to get spinner working on a PC NOT arcade 1` up boards. Windows don't see it flipped switches on . Only have 1 wire from running from the Spinner to the 12 in 1and USB connected to the PC. I know there is a another wire but it's useless one side fits in the 12 in 1 but other side is useless none of my USB boards have that type connection. Figured USB would provide the the data between them.
In this video I used the encoder that came with the spinner, however not sure if it is still included (I've heard it's not). Best to reach out to GRS Technical support here: www.glensretroshow.com/contact/
Hi! Can you help me making the same?
Can you make one and sell to me?
I live in Brazil and everything is 3 times difficult to find and to import...
Thanks and congratulations for the GREAT job!
Thank you for your kind words! I'm sorry, I only design stuff and allow anyone to download/print it for free. I'm not equipped to manufacture/resell/package/support, etc. Not sure about Brazil, but here in the US there are many libraries that have 3D Printers that allow the public to print items. Perhaps that might be an option for you? Another option would be friends/relatives that may have a 3D printer that wouldn't mind printing for you. I hope some of these options will work for you, I love seeing pictures/videos from people that make their own OpenCADE!
centepede just keeps kicking me out, no advmame-1.4 selection :(
Make sure the rom(set) you are using matches the version of MAME that you're running. If launching the game doesn't work, that means one of the two is not correct.
Like we're gonna assume everybody has a 3D printer which majority do not. The problem with Glenn's trackball is you can't just mount to any panel board. The screw is set in the middle where it makes it difficult to mount on any flat surface.
Maybe you've not seen his upgrade kit for use with Legend's Ultimate amzn.to/2V2wg9i He has great controls, I just so happen to have a 3D Printer and designed this stuff to work with his. You can have the cases printed (link on thingiverse will send it to someone else to print/send to you), your public library (well, not now but normally) or print it yourself. Tons of options. That's the whole point of OpenCADE is to have options that make it configurable. I don't assume it's for everyone, only those who are interested...
Can anyone recommend a similar quality trackball in the same price range as this one?
Why is it always Sanwa? Is there a STL for us Happ lovers? Great info anyways; I found this looking for a quality spinner for arkanoid.
Hi Brandon, that's why the Expansion Pack was added: wagnerstechtalk.com/opencade/#Included_in_the_Expansion_Pack There is a solid Control Panel which just has the screw holes. Using that, you can use any program (like the free 3D Builder from Microsoft) to drill holes wherever you want them. It provides you with an easy option to build it however you want. I'm also happy to host the information/models that anyone comes up with on my site. The good news is everything I can provide is freely available and extendable.
Trackball working fine. Spinner is unresponsive. Windows 10.
I didn't test it in Windows 10, only on RetroPie. For RetroPie, here are the dip switch settings: wagnerstechtalk.com/grs/#Control_Panel_Assembly_Instructions It may/may not be the same for Windows. If this doesn't help, reach out to Glen for assistance (Glen's Retro Show on YT).
@@WagnersTechTalk appreciate the response. I have it plugged into a USB breakout cable right now. I'm going to plug it into its own powered slot when I get home. Fingers crossed! Ready to play some tempest!
@@WagnersTechTalk I got it running! I had to use 3rd party USB device viewer to find it. It was installed and listed as a mouse device but unresponsive. I ended up rolling back the driver and it works fine now. MAME is still giving me some grief but I'll get it figured out.
@@DaveLuxmore Awesome Dave, glad you got it working!
This music makes me sleepy...
lol, sorry about that! I'll keep that in mind for the next video and choose a different track.
I don't like it. It shakey and too loosie compared to the cheap Chinese trackball which has more friction and feels more grippy.
Are you talking about the case or the trackball? I've found the trackball to work quite well myself. I believe a new version is coming soon, however. GRS is constantly making improvements.
@@WagnersTechTalk His trackball. It does not feel as solid when you roll it. It feels shakey compared to the cheap chinese $30 trackball where it feels more grippy and solid when you roll it.