Simply not worth it. Just go fishing with your buddy. Talk laugh and have a great time. And if your buddy chips in then great. If not he’s your buddy and you probably enjoyed the company. Not some stranger that you have nothing in common with. Boater or non boater. Tournament fishing is nonsense for most people.
Until I watched this video I never once thought about being a co-angler. After watching the video and reading the comments I'll think about it even less in the future.
Some of this is good, some is crap. I don't expect my co angler to give me any money or help me at all. That's me personally. I know some boaters that will get pissed if that doesn't happen. The way o look at it is I'm fishing regardless if someone is on the back of the boat or not, my boat, my expense. If my co is able and willing to help, then cool. If not no sweat. Can't say the same for others. Being back boated is nonsense. There's numerous times where boat position will not allow you to get to the sweet spot, deal with it. If I did all the work to find that pattern and those fish and my boat position is critical to that pattern then why should the boater change. If the boater is doing it on purpose that's another story. It's not the boaters job to put co anglers on fish, it's your job as a co to read the conditions and catch your own fish. Now don't get me wrong, I will help my cos out with tips and stuff, but in no way am I being a guide and catering to put them on fish, not why I'm there. Be prepared as he says, but don't be a whiner when the day doesn't go your way. It's not your boaters fault you didn't catch fish, you're responsible for that.
Thank you! i agree, i dont mind paying my boater but if the boater is going where he wants to go, fishing the spots he wants to fish, at the angles he wants and the rules clearly state i cant make him go where i want to go, what am i paying for? Dont enter a tournament with a co if you dont want anyone in your boat or expect your co to make your boat payment. I paid my entry fee just like him and i have my own boat, i have never asked anyone to pay to go in my boat, cuz im fishing wherever i want no matter who is in my boat. For the record i always offer to pay no more than $40 bucks though. $60 is just ridiculous, but thats my opinion, pay whatever you feel. All boaters i have had have been super nice, some refused my money, some took it before i even got it out of my pocket🤣
Agree with everything you said except, netting boaters fish over or before my own. I've been both angler and co-angler. And I've always told my partner that if we double, we're on our own. Some situations may change that. But typically....your fish, your responsibility. Good video.
Thank YOU for mentioning “turning off your headlights!” Other anglers can’t see to back there vehicle down the ramp at low light beside another vehicle that has there headlights on!! It’s impossible and to many DONT know this fact!!! I see this time and time again at the public ramp!!
I love when a boater tries to get me to pay half the fuel in his truck and boat... nah bro. I'm perfectly fine with paying for boat fuel but I'm not paying your truck fuel, especially if I didn't ride with you to the ramp. Can't tell you how many times a boater has wanted $80 from me because he's trying to charge me for truck fuel as well. Not gonna happen. I had to buy my own gas to get to the ramp.
@@jordonpratt2604 Doesnt matter. I am more than happy to pay for fuel for the boat. You try to charge me fuel for your truck as well and I'll tell ya to frig off... I already had to pay for fuel in my own truck to get to the ramp, I'm not gonna pay for yours too. If I ride with you to the ramp, that's one thing.. but If i drove myself, I am not going to pay for your truck fuel. That's ridiculous.
@@ch0ketv_ that’s cool , I always offer to split gas for everything, it has helped me more than once being nice and offer. 9 out of 10 times they say they don’t want it. But if your cool with people they tend to put you in a better position to catch fish then to tell them to F off. All I’m saying is kindness goes a long way.
95% of guys I fish with decline payment as well but I have no problem paying for boat fuel... I always offer and most of the time they decline... but I have had guys demand I pay for boat and truck fuel, to which I replay that I am more than happy to pay for boat fuel but since I did not ride with them, I will not pay for truck fuel as well... I feel that is just taking advantage. Sometimes they're okay with it, sometimes their not... makes no difference to me tho. Like I said, I already paid for fuel to drive to the ramp, I see no reason to have to pay for someone else to get there as well.
A co angler in my old bass club would constantly bring 12-15 rods and probably 7 tackle bags. It was ridiculous. Luckily I have a 21’ boat, so all that gear really got more in his way than mine.
Good night! I don't think so lol. I bring a max of 6 maybe 7 if it's a special circumstance. I'll bring extra reels and different lines if I think I should change up that drastically. I don't even mind using speed clips for things like crankbaits. One tackle bag that isn't super huge and maybe a small bag with extra clothes and refreshments/snacks.. the more you bring the more your mind is on what you can use next instead of using what you have properly.
Wow, i had no idea co angling was that much of a hassle. Walking on eggshells and cant even fish a decent spot while serving the boater the whole time. Youre a better man than me. I couldnt do it. Thanks for clearing that up!✌👍
I dont see any postives or benefits of being a co-angler. Im just learning about it myself. The negatives/cons in my opinion vastly out-weigh the pro's. I cant see myself walking on egg-shells and making sure some "other" guy is happy, its just not in my blood. This just gives me a reason to just save up my own money and by my own boat.
@@tooshmart6669 most boaters are truly great and fun! Dont let me scare you...give it a try if you are a normal dude...yall will likely get along perfectly fine and if you follow my guidance you most certainly will!!! Lol...just know there are some out there...who can be jerks!
I have fished dozens of tournaments as coangler . I think about 60% positive 40%=negative. And that's going in with low expectations. Can't tell how many boaters couldn't find there way back to spots located in practice even with waypoints
@@jeffspaanem3132 well it helps towns with money, the classic brought 32.2 million dollars to Knoxville, I don’t know about you but that’s good for businesses and towns. The fish are released alive, it really does help with tourism.
I have never heard ......thank god there is another 200 boats out here today....I just loved getting buzzed by another bass boat....everyone thinks they are KVD....
the average person who is on the lake doesn't financially benefit from a tournament, only businesses....what did the gas station in town ever do for the lake ? nothing but sell gas and coffee...yippie.
Thanks Lou, this is going to be a big help in finding your videos of specific interest for my upcoming season, much appreciated, wishing you the best this season and look forward to seeing how you do as a boater man !!
Daves Rules to Being a gangsta co-angler: 1-Tell him to net his own fish, if he was a real pro he wouldnt have someone netting his fish. 2-If he’s constantly positioning the boat where you dont have anything, jump up on the front next to him and zing a few casts out there. Cast over his line, and yell at him to watch where he’s fishing. 3-If you go to set the hook and miss and a punching weight flys out the water and hits him say something like “get outta the way goddammit!” 4-If he’s really trying to press the issue or fight you the whole time about who gets to fish where, and taking the boat into places you dont like, take your pliers, open up the battery compartment and snip the trolling motor wires. 5-And Rick James the boat every opportunity you can- If he says anything about you making a mess or screwing up his boat say “Fuck Your Boat” dump dye on the deck and grind your feet in it constantly saying “fuck-your-boat” it’s his boat, he can clean it up. Your out there to catch fish, not be a maid. 6- Criticize everything. If he makes a bad cast, walk up and show him how to position his arm and body when casting. If he misses a fish and he’s using Honer hooks, tell him that wouldn’t have happened with Gamakatsu hooks, then explain that actually his whole hooksetting technique is weak, he didnt swing hard enough. Tell him he needs a rod with more parabolic bend, shoulda got G.Loomis rods instead of whatever he’s using.
I fished as a co-angler last year (2018). I was skeptical. I have to say it was a good experience. I was lucky enough to have Ish Monroe on day one and learned a bunch. I caught some fish and learned much about tournament fishing. Ish was a great boater. The second day I fished with a lesser know 3-year pro and he was great as well. He spent the last couple hours of the tourney trying to get me on fish since he was out of it. I learned about drop-shotting techniques and baits. Overall it was a great experience. I met Roland Martin, Fished Lake Champlain, and rode in 2 great boats. If you love fishing I recommend it at least once.
@@BeyondTheBoundsOutdoors you are right, it can be tough. I sucked up the back seat of a pretty knowledgeable amateur but I wasn't knowledgeable with how to be a co-angler. I am positive I was very irritating. It didn't help that I seemed to always have the wrong equipment tied on. The next and last time I did it, I had a boater that was willing to work with me and told me exactly how we would cover with spinner baits looking for fish. Both were glad I knew how to operate a boat (at least at idle) but definitely wished I could back the boat down for them. It was a great experience, but honestly I want my own boat, but I need to find someone to teach me how to back up a trailer... good truthful video!
I dont think I would ever be in a tournament or become a co-angler anytime soon, but I have to say I do love these videos. The stuff you guys go throw Another great one thank you
Great video. I fished the back of a boat for years in a local club. Those conditions were great learning experiences. I learned boat control safe operation. How to operate in bad weather and be safe. That was always instilled be safe we’re going home when theirs is over. They gave great instruction. Then I rode to a BASS event in northern New Mexico. First day of tournament on lake I’d never fished or practiced. End of first day, as non boater I was in second place my boater put us in some good water. I even doubled up twice with two smallies on my jerkbait retrieve. Was able to cull and was in 2nd place end of day second day storm and high wind no bite or fish but still finished 6th in the money. Fun learning experience.
Years ago, Had a buddy fishing as a co angler with a big name, Mike I....(not going to say his last name) He was kicking mike's ass from back of boat. Mike got mad and netted a fish for him and twisted the net up and threw it in the bottom of the boat. Trebles of crank bait tangled in net. Took my buddy several minutes to untangle.
I have never encountered a pro that expects you to drop your rod and net their fish if you also have a fish on. That would be ridiculous, as a co you spent hundreds of dollars to fish the tournament as well. Not a chance I’m losing my fish to net theirs. I feel like any rational boater would agree 🤷🏼♂️
@@PNguyen16 The idea that the co-anglers dont have boats is not correct most of the time. The co-anglers are people that have their own boat but the entry fees to be a co-angler is much lower than the boaters. The Boaters are the pros. the co-anglers are the amateurs. Most of the time the COs have a boat they just are not professional tournament anglers that spend the multiples of thousands of $ that the Pro is spending. Obviously the respective prizes that the Pros and COs get reflect the entry fees paid. Besides if you didn't have a boat spending money on a tournament instead of saving towards a boat would be silly for most.
That why I fish team tournament trails.With my best friend. We go half on everything. Except for big fish, catch it's his money, and if I catch it is my money. We really enjoy fishing as a team.
Good stuff bro I saw that tournament when you left that mans boats a mess I thought you would clean it after but I can understand your point. You maned up and thats what matters bro. 🎣🎣🎣
If I was a co and I knew I was going to give gas money, I would give it first thing in the morning. As a boater, honestly its just going to make me possibly help you out a little more throughout the day. However, if I was a co, I would give it at the end of the day to see how the boater treated me.
I did that once...and then he blew a prop and we barely went anywhere....he didnt give any back lol. Was good guy. Just sucked that was my first ever experience.
I always wait until the end of the day. I'm not gonna give a guy $50 in gas money if we only run 2 miles and sit on a flat all day.. it's happened several times.
I have that exact same tackle bag/backpack. Best $30 bucks I've ever spent on tackle storage for being on the go. Bottom holds plenty of trays to carry every hard bait, spinner & terminal tackle you would need for an entire day & the top has enough space for plastics, extra line, tools, etc. It's a great all day fishing bag. I could see how it would be great for co-angling, you could pretty much put everything in it you need other than a small cooler for drinks & your food.
I have watched a lot of these co angler prep videos and I have to say all the points made make sense. Gas money, respecting the boat, don't cast over boater, and others is pretty much common sense to me and funny that anyone would have a gripe about them. Let me tell you my rub. I have a problem with the pros saying don't worry if you don't catch a fish, treat it like a learning experience. What? My learning experience was how much it costs to undertake this journey. I have a dream of going pro like everyone else who's picked up a rod. I'm starting my first tour in MLF in the spring. I know what I have spent and what it will still cost me in entry fees, gas, food, lodging, and what ever else that rear it's head. So when a pro tells me to take it as a learning experience when they back boat me, then someone's lost the plot. My money is just as valuable to me as yours is to you. To try to break even I need a fish in the boat also. There aren't any sponsor tags on my shirt. You remember what that was like?
Great video Lou! Really great to hear that stuff. I wish more xo anglers did all those though. Have a great day my friend and I will catch you on the next one!
I ember on morning seeing a co angler on th docks with so much gear I thought he w going on an safari. The pro pulled p...looked at him and said ....Nope....I just laughed. He told him he had 15 minutes to thin on his gear...I asked the co if it was his fist tourney ?...he is yea very sheepishly...I told him not to worry he's not the 1st and that the more he fished he more he'd learn to scale down...
Honestly great info... this will be my first year trying competition fishing out here in Washington and I don't own a boat and was kinda clueless on how co anglers worked..... thank you for this info
Love the content and the boat (because it is the slightly bigger sister to my ZX 225.....same color scheme.....awesome in the fall and winter.....in the summer it gets a bit hot)
Was a co angler for years lots of good guys out there and lots of front Enders as well got tired of depending on which guy I will draw so I bought myself a new one lol no I have no one to blame but myself
Ahhh man life as a Co angler!! I have had guys in the Bassmaster opens who were awesome and wanted to make sure and do their best to help me catch a limit. Then I have had guys who parallel me all day or point the boat towards brush piles and leave me to throw in open water all day. It is what it is and that’s part of it there has been days I have absolutely said things to guys about it and other times I just keep my head down and do what I can. Of course you are there to fish and make $ but for me as a co it was more about experience and learning. Being put in those difficult situations is what helps you become a better fisherman
BamaBassFinder04 4 yes sir!! At low light or night time if the guy putting in had his lights on and you try to back down beside them it’s impossible to see to back down the ramp. Happened to me just this past morning at my local ramp.
I’ve been a co angler twice in BFLs in Illinois my first time the guy was super he even loaned me the same square bill he was catching his fish on it was a great time. My second not so much fun. Not because the guy was a jerk but he should’ve never been a boater he should’ve spent more time on the co angler side.
Brother, I enjoy watching your channel but can you please turn the U.S. Flag around. I'm a retired military and Thank You for your patriotic pride and proudly displaying the flag of our nation but please correct the orientation of the flag. Looking at the flag hanging flat on the wall, the Blue Field with Stars should be in the upper Left Hand corner.
I’m about to jump off into the BFL co-angler battle for the first time, I’m going more for the education but still want to be competitive. I have about 15 years of tournament fishing under my belt but haven’t fished in almost 20 years; raising a family. This is definitely good info.
I spent many days on the back. I was a member of a local club and didn’t own a boat. Overall it was a good experience and I learned a lot. Only once or twice did I have the boater ignore giving me a chance... unfortunately, he skunked and landed one keeper. He was not happy! But, mist of the boaters were great and a couple I would go as far as saying they are friends...
That’s a lot of what I hear - the best thing a co angler takes away is the experience & knowledge.. Me personally I fish for the fun of it - to make $$ out of it I fear would ruin the labor of love in the hobby / sport
I will say one thing that if a boater expects me to give him money then I surely want the same luxury as him as to casting directions etc. The way I see it is the boater has the best part of this deal (I know he owns the boat). I have witnessed boaters that won't even stop casting long enough to net a non-boaters fish or even yells at him to horse the fish in so he does not have to wait. These boaters don't deserve to have a co-angler. My opinion!
My question to my boater. What are we fishing? Deep, mid, shallow water. That’s all I ask. There are things we disagree on but it’s situational. The max I give a boater is $40 that’s my budget. But if a boater blocks me from fishing that to this day is the only Boater I never paid. Been doing this since 2015. Learned a lot over these year ready for this next season I will say this... You’ve made more mistakes than me 😂 we all learn from experience 😂 last season my boater gave a 2.5 square bill a full send into my shoulder 😂 it was his first tournament and he learned how to use braid to pull a treble hook out
Respect...no “mad respect” to all the co-anglers out there! I give you fellas props Frfr! Especially if you have this guys mental attitude and respectfulness of the “pro” or whoever fishing in the front of the boat!!! With that being said, if I was ever good enough to tournament fish, I would def invest in my own boat and try my best to be the boat owner and running that trolling motor lol! Cause it just sounds like co-anglers/back of boat guy is literally like the red headed step child fishing! I do hear that co-anglers can make mega bucks themselves without the cost of a boat if not sponsored, but I’ve seen that your not with the same angler Every day and they may be fishing offshore compared to you killing the shallow water bank fishing day prior with someone else. But you get no say so in where ya Gunna fish everyday... blahhh to that
I fished as a co angler one one time because a so called friend asked me to. Caught the biggest bass of the tournament and my boater pitched a fit. Never again and is not my friend anymore
60$ min gas money? Lol, I just ask how much he wants. Most of the time its only 30$. Now.. if the boater and I have a good time, sure ill definitely give gas money or maybe more than whst was asked. But as someone that is a boater as well - i personally wouldn't ask for gas money.. its my boat. And I'm gonna go fish where I want to. Now if I went somewhere my co angler wanted, I could understand wanting some gas money. But I feel like no boater should expect a co angler to always be hand and foot and just throw 60 bucks there way. Not against it by any means, but I feel like it should not always be expected.
Ive fished the BFL as a co angler for the past 2 years in the Illini Division. Ive not had the first boater to be uptight about anything. Now ive been put in situations where I've had nothing to fish or the boater set himself up to be the only one to fish a spot and Ive made due by fishing the other side of the boat that the boater wasn't. I get everything that you have said in your videos, but Im out there trying to win just as the boater. Not once has a boater gotten upset with me with my approach to this. But at the same time I'm very respectful with everything and there boat.
The main reason for co-anglers on these pro circuit is for the co to learn how to catch fish not to tell your boater to move the boat position so u can catch fish because your frustrated and I understand that it cost quite a bit to be a co angler but at the same time u have to understand that the pro is doing this for a living so whatever he does goes and u should not question it. being back boated is definitely not fun but at the same time they are the ones that have put the most money, time and effort into catching those fish and ultimately paying their bills. So if u go into co-angling with a mindset of your gonna try to win and catch the most fish during that event your probably not gonna learn very much because your mind is in the wrong place. be a co-angler to learn how to catch fish on different bodies of waters and conditions so that when u go to fish pro circuits yourself u have that knowledge from when u fished on the co-angler side. #1 rule is always respect the boater no matter how much time is left and u haven't caught anything. be a sponge because u can learn stuff from the pros even if u don't catch anything.
Completely agree it seems most people think of being a co angler as some sort of team tournament (which exist for those saying co angler isn’t fun) it’s about learning about how a pro fishes and breaks down the water and if you want to go somewhere in the fishing world it’s highly encouraged to start as a co angler to gain experience. 👍
Who knew gas money could create such controversy.....lol. I always felt $50/day seemed fair. Yes your boater might make a 2 hour run, but ultimately he’s doing that for himself and would be making that run if you weren’t in the boat with him. $50 for gas and some ice is plenty fair IMO......unless you get paired with Lou, then you have to add a bottle of Fiji water to the list. 😂
Guys just go out and go with the flow as long as you’re respectful and go out to learn you’ll have a good time regardless. This is making it seem like you’re the boaters “maid”. There isn’t that much thinking in being a co angler.
Fishing out of the back of the boat with 4 different people in local tournaments pissed me off so bad that I bought my own boat . The God complex of the person on the trolling motor is un excusable ! I don't go fishing to kiss some ones ass all day !
Great co-angler tips. Appreciate you taking the time to provide your perspective on being in that position. I think it’s all about being a good sport, thoughtful, respectful, and just putting yourself in the boaters Shoes. God bless!
Been a co for many tournaments try never to cast beyond the consoles unless the boater says different have been back boated by a few boaters will never let that happen again because it's just not right as a boater myself I never back boated a co as for gas have many boaters refuse to take money, I offer all my boaters forty bucks because basically I'm just buying them dinner dosen't matter if their number is called and they drop the trolling motor and never start the gas motor or if they decide to go 100 miles always take care of the boat like it's gold.
Great video, I always thought co angler is a lot like being a apprentice. And your video makes me believe that even more. Do you fish with the same guy all weekend?
And don't act (boaters) as if the co anglers are dumb or just beginners and deserve to get whatever type treatment.. there have been more than a few tournaments won by boaters who won because of the co angler putting them on fish.. it works both ways
I had a boater military captain that reeked of bourbon that was interesting. Only talk as much as they want to and stay positive. Good info and all of it is true thanks.
Stopped it at rule #1, if you can't start out good the rest certainly isn't any better. Be prepared you say, then on the heals of it say you are not sharing what you are doing. I bet then you would have the nerve to complain if the CO brought 8 rods and all his tackle. As a boat owner I can say if you want the CO to work with you, then you have to work with them. It doesn't hurt to share basic info so the CO can refine his set ups. If you can't share that without being threatened then you don't have what it takes to begin with.
Hey Bud I don't disagree with you. I'm just relaying what I've seen done. I don't care how many rods or gear a co brings...it's their deal. I was a co and dealt with all types.
Man, I fished with Ed Getty’s one time on Guntersville. Tossin frogs on the mats. I was young. I really ticked him off. I threw in on him and landed a solid 6. He netted it and let me have it.
I used to be a boater but now fish as a co angler. Should I want to cast towards the front but yet off to the side, I ask the boater if he is okay with it first. Should he say yes, I make my cast.
I agree and disagree with control your emotions. You also pay up to $500 to be a co angler which is a bunch of money. So they should also be aware that you have paid a lot of money to compete plus helping them cover their cost of gas money for the day!! Just saying they should show some etiquette as well. You can learn more by fishing yourself all month for what you spend for one weekend with a so called pro.
Learn how to use all your room premeditate maneuvers grab permits bring ice and drinks of your consumption learn how to launch and recover a boat park and listen to boater to where we are going what we are doing what to throw and how to throw it pre rig your defense and a offense rods ten combos and a limited box playmate size be early ready to go to work! Follow instruction be safe gas money if a big lake upon request I have respect and pay attention to the water if you need something I got it don’t make a habit of it !cath fish be comparable you will find some one you click with!be quick with the net! I don’t have break off policy but make it quick! 3 minutes… be professional don’t be a punk!
If the pro is lost can you tell him what you found? I am on the wall on gas money. I understand you pay a entry also but when they keep you from hitting the good spots and like you said there is a lot of zeros on the co side. Seems like the co should get a fair shake too. I have done it too. I am 72 and fished on pro side down to state tournaments and never kept a partner off fish. I always fished as a team tournament and if you do that you will come out in the end
You are from a better generation that appreciated winning over personal glory. Lots of pros now are narcissistic dipshits. I dont understand why they would even invite a co angler on if they are going to keep them off of fish
@@jimmyharrell9984 Angling is a lifestyle, im all for capitalism and i understand bringing in more money will only help in the long run but if theyre going to act like spoiled little bitches then they shouldnt be competing. When it comes time for weigh ins the only thing that counts is putting fish in the boat. If i found a honeyhole i would want as many baits in that area as possible. Then again im not a tournament angler and can only speak about what i see and not from experience
@Gregory Smith too many local clubs for that to be viable but a good thought! I too have many times been disrespected ny tournament anglers on MY home waters . Many of them seem to think that just because there is a tournament that they are entitled to every spot on the lake.
Oh thanks I've been doing it all wrong. So if I bring them lunch, buy their gas and beer, sit in the back keep my mouth shut and dip his fish, provide him lures he sees and likes, hey even spool his line on his reel he just backlashed I'd be a good co-angler. Sounds fair to me.
Paying money to be front ended by a so called "pro" all day.There are so many quality fishing instructional videos available today you can learn so much more than paying some supposed pro to show you how to fish.Fish team tourney with friends,catch more fish,enjoy the experience,have more fun and be part of a team.
I never accepted money from a co angler. I was there to fish regardless if I had a co angler or not. I have seen boaters screw co anglers by charging them a crazy amount for fuel.
I’m gonna start fishing by myself ! I get rookies idiots senial old men and untrained personnel that can’t drive back recover and park no ethics or educate they think there above me!”just cuz you have a boat dosent make you a better fisherman”after he drops my champion on a concrete launch ramp bolts away in a tundra! Wants to get up front and tell me where he wants to fish!
I would make any co-angler swim back if he or she left my back deck that dirty! This video defiantly makes me reconsider ever fishing as a co angler. I think it sucks as a boater you have to take a co angler for various reasons. Wonder if participation would go up if taking a co angler was voluntary. Just a thought! At this point in the game I’d rather grab a buddy and fish a team tourney vrs going into a FLW event as a co. Seems like a big headache with all these co angler videos posted basically stating the same exact things.
Co angling with this clown wouldn’t be. I wouldn’t be on people so much. Everyone needs to have fun and if your $200 for a tournament NEEDS to yield a win to this point don’t spend your money.
First event I was ever a co in I was back boated all 8 hours and I Hooked a big one when he finally went up in pads and it got wrapped up I asked him to go in and try and get it out and he just told me absolutely not the day was about him catching fish not me
40 bucks your only buying the boater dinner I don't care if they call their number and they drop the trolling never start the main motor or run 100 miles because on the body I live on I have spots all over and the boaters will not stop some ask if I have spots and I have put my boaters on fish.
There should be a front of the boat angler tips. Always videos about how to make the other guy happy but not about how they treat the co. It's becoming elitist... I don't owe the front of the boat anything. I'm really nice and cordial but they can lick my anus if they think they are the "boss". We've both paid our dues and both know we're fishing with someone we probably don't know. I don't expect them to tell me anything other than the game plan as far as what they are doing. If we're staying off shore that needs to be known. I've never had a problem with a boater but the few that started to get a little grumpy ended up putting a smile on cuz although I'm not taking any crap I'm super nice about it... I know I'm coming off a little crass but text does that... Most of my experiences have been really good for learning and just having someone there that has probably been in the back and can give great advice.
Not crass at all dude. I had awesome boaters. I treat all my cos how I wanted to be treated. I am with you if they are dicks then you don't have to be nice to them.
Thank you for posting useful fishing information. I have a suggestion, as a US Veteran. Please display your US Flag with the Union to the left. (US Flag etiquette) 😎👍🇺🇲
Ive been a co angler a lot and I have my own boat. I have an issue with money for gas. That boater is going to spend the same gas whether a co angler is in the boat or not. But I’ve been with boaters that are so anal about things its not enjoyable. Hell I’ve let my co anglers run the trolling motor sometimes.
I kinda agree, maybe pay 20 percent or so but half when your fishing from the back after they have fished the best places and they get all the free sponsorship lures and baits, doesn’t seem right. Your not getting to fish half the good spots from front
Bro your cheap and I guess you don't own a tournament ready bass boat . If you handed me that in my 2017 Falcon You best believe I am shutting down my console units . I would tell you to keep your money any how but that's just cheap and I am sure your known as the cheap ass co angler
@@mikejoned7148 shut down that console unit. I’m still giving you $20-30 bucks. I don’t need anything from your boat but the live well. $20-30 is fair. I don’t need any of your stuff.
@@Colwell1199 when your trying to win as the guy on the bow of the boat. 4 units 1 being a 360 that's a good amount of khz running through the water. I always try to give the Co angler something to fish. Always welcome to take a quick trip to the bow and check out the graphs. I will keep the units on pending the water. I try to be fair unless someone is a dick .
Listen to this guy.. 6:50.. About gas money..says " hes probably been running his boat all week" lol so what I didnt tell him to do that... Then compares it to golf haha.. You bring your own clubs You bring your own fishing poles You pay your own entry fee also guy And you share a cart
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Simply not worth it. Just go fishing with your buddy. Talk laugh and have a great time. And if your buddy chips in then great. If not he’s your buddy and you probably enjoyed the company. Not some stranger that you have nothing in common with. Boater or non boater. Tournament fishing is nonsense for most people.
Until I watched this video I never once thought about being a co-angler. After watching the video and reading the comments I'll think about it even less in the future.
Lol, I never want to be a co angler after watching this..... ever!
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Some of this is good, some is crap. I don't expect my co angler to give me any money or help me at all. That's me personally. I know some boaters that will get pissed if that doesn't happen. The way o look at it is I'm fishing regardless if someone is on the back of the boat or not, my boat, my expense. If my co is able and willing to help, then cool. If not no sweat. Can't say the same for others.
Being back boated is nonsense. There's numerous times where boat position will not allow you to get to the sweet spot, deal with it. If I did all the work to find that pattern and those fish and my boat position is critical to that pattern then why should the boater change. If the boater is doing it on purpose that's another story.
It's not the boaters job to put co anglers on fish, it's your job as a co to read the conditions and catch your own fish. Now don't get me wrong, I will help my cos out with tips and stuff, but in no way am I being a guide and catering to put them on fish, not why I'm there.
Be prepared as he says, but don't be a whiner when the day doesn't go your way. It's not your boaters fault you didn't catch fish, you're responsible for that.
100 % agree.
Totally agree .
As a boater in my local club I never took money always ask first don't wait to the end of the day.
Thank you! i agree, i dont mind paying my boater but if the boater is going where he wants to go, fishing the spots he wants to fish, at the angles he wants and the rules clearly state i cant make him go where i want to go, what am i paying for? Dont enter a tournament with a co if you dont want anyone in your boat or expect your co to make your boat payment. I paid my entry fee just like him and i have my own boat, i have never asked anyone to pay to go in my boat, cuz im fishing wherever i want no matter who is in my boat. For the record i always offer to pay no more than $40 bucks though. $60 is just ridiculous, but thats my opinion, pay whatever you feel. All boaters i have had have been super nice, some refused my money, some took it before i even got it out of my pocket🤣
Bassand Furious lol @ before pocket - geeezzz 😉
Agree with everything you said except, netting boaters fish over or before my own. I've been both angler and co-angler. And I've always told my partner that if we double, we're on our own. Some situations may change that. But typically....your fish, your responsibility. Good video.
That's what I thought handle your own fish
Thank YOU for mentioning “turning off your headlights!” Other anglers can’t see to back there vehicle down the ramp at low light beside another vehicle that has there headlights on!! It’s impossible and to many DONT know this fact!!! I see this time and time again at the public ramp!!
I even shared front deck with co angler. I learned that from a very seasoned tournament angler early on. He was a gentleman and great fisherman.
This is awesome brother !!
I love when a boater tries to get me to pay half the fuel in his truck and boat... nah bro. I'm perfectly fine with paying for boat fuel but I'm not paying your truck fuel, especially if I didn't ride with you to the ramp. Can't tell you how many times a boater has wanted $80 from me because he's trying to charge me for truck fuel as well. Not gonna happen. I had to buy my own gas to get to the ramp.
Wonder how that boat got there it wasn’t pulled by that truck was it??
@@jordonpratt2604 Doesnt matter. I am more than happy to pay for fuel for the boat. You try to charge me fuel for your truck as well and I'll tell ya to frig off... I already had to pay for fuel in my own truck to get to the ramp, I'm not gonna pay for yours too. If I ride with you to the ramp, that's one thing.. but If i drove myself, I am not going to pay for your truck fuel. That's ridiculous.
@@ch0ketv_ that’s cool , I always offer to split gas for everything, it has helped me more than once being nice and offer. 9 out of 10 times they say they don’t want it. But if your cool with people they tend to put you in a better position to catch fish then to tell them to F off. All I’m saying is kindness goes a long way.
95% of guys I fish with decline payment as well but I have no problem paying for boat fuel... I always offer and most of the time they decline... but I have had guys demand I pay for boat and truck fuel, to which I replay that I am more than happy to pay for boat fuel but since I did not ride with them, I will not pay for truck fuel as well... I feel that is just taking advantage. Sometimes they're okay with it, sometimes their not... makes no difference to me tho. Like I said, I already paid for fuel to drive to the ramp, I see no reason to have to pay for someone else to get there as well.
@@ch0ketv_ Agree 100% I would never pay for someone else's fuel for their truck. That's nuts. I'd love to have someone ask me.
A co angler in my old bass club would constantly bring 12-15 rods and probably 7 tackle bags. It was ridiculous. Luckily I have a 21’ boat, so all that gear really got more in his way than mine.
Hahaha man as a co all those rods would drive me crazy!!!!!!
Good night! I don't think so lol. I bring a max of 6 maybe 7 if it's a special circumstance. I'll bring extra reels and different lines if I think I should change up that drastically. I don't even mind using speed clips for things like crankbaits. One tackle bag that isn't super huge and maybe a small bag with extra clothes and refreshments/snacks.. the more you bring the more your mind is on what you can use next instead of using what you have properly.
😂 hell naw man I would have told him he needs to put half that shit back lol
Wow, i had no idea co angling was that much of a hassle. Walking on eggshells and cant even fish a decent spot while serving the boater the whole time. Youre a better man than me. I couldnt do it. Thanks for clearing that up!✌👍
I dont see any postives or benefits of being a co-angler. Im just learning about it myself. The negatives/cons in my opinion vastly out-weigh the pro's. I cant see myself walking on egg-shells and making sure some "other" guy is happy, its just not in my blood. This just gives me a reason to just save up my own money and by my own boat.
@@tooshmart6669 couldnt agree more!
@@tooshmart6669 most boaters are truly great and fun! Dont let me scare you...give it a try if you are a normal dude...yall will likely get along perfectly fine and if you follow my guidance you most certainly will!!! Lol...just know there are some out there...who can be jerks!
I have fished dozens of tournaments as coangler . I think about 60% positive 40%=negative. And that's going in with low expectations. Can't tell how many boaters couldn't find there way back to spots located in practice even with waypoints
@@georgeadcock2347 who knows, maybe some day ill try it.
Never thought about be a co-angler. This just convinced me to stay on my own boat or with someone I know well. Way to much arrogance out there.
name one good thing a tournament does for a fishery ?......I can't, maybe sell gas.....big deal.
@@jeffspaanem3132 well it helps towns with money, the classic brought 32.2 million dollars to Knoxville, I don’t know about you but that’s good for businesses and towns. The fish are released alive, it really does help with tourism.
I have never heard ......thank god there is another 200 boats out here today....I just loved getting buzzed by another bass boat....everyone thinks they are KVD....
the average person who is on the lake doesn't financially benefit from a tournament, only businesses....what did the gas station in town ever do for the lake ? nothing but sell gas and coffee...yippie.
@@jeffspaanem3132 if you are that ignorant to how commerce and flow of money helps a community there there is no use trying to even explain it
Thanks Lou, this is going to be a big help in finding your videos of specific interest for my upcoming season, much appreciated, wishing you the best this season and look forward to seeing how you do as a boater man !!
Daves Rules to Being a gangsta co-angler:
1-Tell him to net his own fish, if he was a real pro he wouldnt have someone netting his fish.
2-If he’s constantly positioning the boat where you dont have anything, jump up on the front next to him and zing a few casts out there. Cast over his line, and yell at him to watch where he’s fishing.
3-If you go to set the hook and miss and a punching weight flys out the water and hits him say something like “get outta the way goddammit!”
4-If he’s really trying to press the issue or fight you the whole time about who gets to fish where, and taking the boat into places you dont like, take your pliers, open up the battery compartment and snip the trolling motor wires.
5-And Rick James the boat every opportunity you can- If he says anything about you making a mess or screwing up his boat say “Fuck Your Boat” dump dye on the deck and grind your feet in it constantly saying “fuck-your-boat” it’s his boat, he can clean it up. Your out there to catch fish, not be a maid.
6- Criticize everything. If he makes a bad cast, walk up and show him how to position his arm and body when casting. If he misses a fish and he’s using Honer hooks, tell him that wouldn’t have happened with Gamakatsu hooks, then explain that actually his whole hooksetting technique is weak, he didnt swing hard enough. Tell him he needs a rod with more parabolic bend, shoulda got G.Loomis rods instead of whatever he’s using.
Co Angling seems like it's the worst possible format I admire anyone who is willing to put themselves through that kinda pain.
You can learn a lot. But some boaters view you as an unecessary evil
@@BeyondTheBoundsOutdoors they can choose another format or circuit.
If you don't like coanglers tough!
I fished as a co-angler last year (2018). I was skeptical. I have to say it was a good experience. I was lucky enough to have Ish Monroe on day one and learned a bunch. I caught some fish and learned much about tournament fishing. Ish was a great boater. The second day I fished with a lesser know 3-year pro and he was great as well. He spent the last couple hours of the tourney trying to get me on fish since he was out of it. I learned about drop-shotting techniques and baits. Overall it was a great experience. I met Roland Martin, Fished Lake Champlain, and rode in 2 great boats. If you love fishing I recommend it at least once.
@@BeyondTheBoundsOutdoors you are right, it can be tough. I sucked up the back seat of a pretty knowledgeable amateur but I wasn't knowledgeable with how to be a co-angler. I am positive I was very irritating. It didn't help that I seemed to always have the wrong equipment tied on. The next and last time I did it, I had a boater that was willing to work with me and told me exactly how we would cover with spinner baits looking for fish. Both were glad I knew how to operate a boat (at least at idle) but definitely wished I could back the boat down for them. It was a great experience, but honestly I want my own boat, but I need to find someone to teach me how to back up a trailer... good truthful video!
Big D just remember turning the wheel to the right makes the trailer go left. And turning the wheel left makes the boat go right...
I dont think I would ever be in a tournament or become a co-angler anytime soon, but I have to say I do love these videos. The stuff you guys go throw Another great one thank you
Great video. I fished the back of a boat for years in a local club. Those conditions were great learning experiences. I learned boat control safe operation. How to operate in bad weather and be safe. That was always instilled be safe we’re going home when theirs is over. They gave great instruction. Then I rode to a BASS event in northern New Mexico. First day of tournament on lake I’d never fished or practiced. End of first day, as non boater I was in second place my boater put us in some good water. I even doubled up twice with two smallies on my jerkbait retrieve. Was able to cull and was in 2nd place end of day second day storm and high wind no bite or fish but still finished 6th in the money. Fun learning experience.
Years ago, Had a buddy fishing as a co angler with a big name, Mike I....(not going to say his last name) He was kicking mike's ass from back of boat. Mike got mad and netted a fish for him and twisted the net up and threw it in the bottom of the boat. Trebles of crank bait tangled in net. Took my buddy several minutes to untangle.
A lot of great points on fishing in some one boat , and a lot of people wouldn’t think about 👍
I have never encountered a pro that expects you to drop your rod and net their fish if you also have a fish on. That would be ridiculous, as a co you spent hundreds of dollars to fish the tournament as well. Not a chance I’m losing my fish to net theirs.
I feel like any rational boater would agree 🤷🏼♂️
@Top Dawg I agree with you yet throwing it in his face as an egotistical butt is out of line. You chose the format so back off.
Top Dawg so how do you expect someone who DOES NOT have the luxury to own a boat fish tournaments?
@@PNguyen16 The idea that the co-anglers dont have boats is not correct most of the time.
The co-anglers are people that have their own boat but the entry fees to be a co-angler is much lower than the boaters. The Boaters are the pros. the co-anglers are the amateurs. Most of the time the COs have a boat they just are not professional tournament anglers that spend the multiples of thousands of $ that the Pro is spending. Obviously the respective prizes that the Pros and COs get reflect the entry fees paid.
Besides if you didn't have a boat spending money on a tournament instead of saving towards a boat would be silly for most.
This should be called "Boater Diva Q&A" YIKES!
That why I fish team tournament trails.With my best friend. We go half on everything. Except for big fish, catch it's his money, and if I catch it is my money. We really enjoy fishing as a team.
Taking all the fun out of fishing.
Good stuff bro I saw that tournament when you left that mans boats a mess I thought you would clean it after but I can understand your point. You maned up and thats what matters bro. 🎣🎣🎣
Thank you for sharing the lessons learned. I'm planning on fishing a couple of BFL events in 20' . Nice to have some insight going into them.
If I was a co and I knew I was going to give gas money, I would give it first thing in the morning. As a boater, honestly its just going to make me possibly help you out a little more throughout the day. However, if I was a co, I would give it at the end of the day to see how the boater treated me.
I did that once...and then he blew a prop and we barely went anywhere....he didnt give any back lol. Was good guy. Just sucked that was my first ever experience.
I always wait until the end of the day. I'm not gonna give a guy $50 in gas money if we only run 2 miles and sit on a flat all day.. it's happened several times.
@@ch0ketv_ Yea I totally understand
As a boat owner, I start with a full tank and only expect for guest to pay part if what it takes to top off at the end of the day.
I have that exact same tackle bag/backpack. Best $30 bucks I've ever spent on tackle storage for being on the go. Bottom holds plenty of trays to carry every hard bait, spinner & terminal tackle you would need for an entire day & the top has enough space for plastics, extra line, tools, etc. It's a great all day fishing bag. I could see how it would be great for co-angling, you could pretty much put everything in it you need other than a small cooler for drinks & your food.
I have watched a lot of these co angler prep videos and I have to say all the points made make sense. Gas money, respecting the boat, don't cast over boater, and others is pretty much common sense to me and funny that anyone would have a gripe about them. Let me tell you my rub. I have a problem with the pros saying don't worry if you don't catch a fish, treat it like a learning experience. What? My learning experience was how much it costs to undertake this journey. I have a dream of going pro like everyone else who's picked up a rod. I'm starting my first tour in MLF in the spring. I know what I have spent and what it will still cost me in entry fees, gas, food, lodging, and what ever else that rear it's head. So when a pro tells me to take it as a learning experience when they back boat me, then someone's lost the plot. My money is just as valuable to me as yours is to you. To try to break even I need a fish in the boat also. There aren't any sponsor tags on my shirt. You remember what that was like?
Well said 👏
Great video Lou! Really great to hear that stuff. I wish more xo anglers did all those though. Have a great day my friend and I will catch you on the next one!
I ember on morning seeing a co angler on th docks with so much gear I thought he w going on an safari. The pro pulled p...looked at him and said ....Nope....I just laughed. He told him he had 15 minutes to thin on his gear...I asked the co if it was his fist tourney ?...he is yea very sheepishly...I told him not to worry he's not the 1st and that the more he fished he more he'd learn to scale down...
Honestly great info... this will be my first year trying competition fishing out here in Washington and I don't own a boat and was kinda clueless on how co anglers worked..... thank you for this info
Love the content and the boat (because it is the slightly bigger sister to my ZX 225.....same color scheme.....awesome in the fall and winter.....in the summer it gets a bit hot)
Great advice!!
Was a co angler for years lots of good guys out there and lots of front Enders as well got tired of depending on which guy I will draw so I bought myself a new one lol no I have no one to blame but myself
Ahhh man life as a Co angler!! I have had guys in the Bassmaster opens who were awesome and wanted to make sure and do their best to help me catch a limit. Then I have had guys who parallel me all day or point the boat towards brush piles and leave me to throw in open water all day. It is what it is and that’s part of it there has been days I have absolutely said things to guys about it and other times I just keep my head down and do what I can. Of course you are there to fish and make $ but for me as a co it was more about experience and learning. Being put in those difficult situations is what helps you become a better fisherman
hahahah yeah even if you ain't in a tournament cut those dang lights off.
Is that so u dont blind others coming to the ramp
I have turned my lights off before only to have the other guy put his brights on,,,thanks dude
BamaBassFinder04 4 yes sir!! At low light or night time if the guy putting in had his lights on and you try to back down beside them it’s impossible to see to back down the ramp. Happened to me just this past morning at my local ramp.
BamaBassFinder04 4 Yeah
CHIPPO FISHING hahaha some guys are just dumb
Co angling sounds like some shit I don’t even wanna do anymore..
I’ve been a co angler twice in BFLs in Illinois my first time the guy was super he even loaned me the same square bill he was catching his fish on it was a great time. My second not so much fun. Not because the guy was a jerk but he should’ve never been a boater he should’ve spent more time on the co angler side.
Great tips for sure!Thank you!I learned a lot in the video!
Brother, I enjoy watching your channel but can you please turn the U.S. Flag around. I'm a retired military and Thank You for your patriotic pride and proudly displaying the flag of our nation but please correct the orientation of the flag. Looking at the flag hanging flat on the wall, the Blue Field with Stars should be in the upper Left Hand corner.
You are correct i will get it changed
@@BeyondTheBoundsOutdoors Thank You and God Bless You.
Semper Fi
@@ansonyt3966 Ooh Rah Brother. Retired Jarhead here.
I’m about to jump off into the BFL co-angler battle for the first time, I’m going more for the education but still want to be competitive. I have about 15 years of tournament fishing under my belt but haven’t fished in almost 20 years; raising a family. This is definitely good info.
I spent many days on the back. I was a member of a local club and didn’t own a boat. Overall it was a good experience and I learned a lot. Only once or twice did I have the boater ignore giving me a chance... unfortunately, he skunked and landed one keeper. He was not happy! But, mist of the boaters were great and a couple I would go as far as saying they are friends...
2 captains never work out on same boat..
I give you co anglers lots of credit..I wouldn't want to fish behind myself either..😂😂😂😂😂
Hell with being a co angler
It can suck. But was a good learning experience!
That’s a lot of what I hear - the best thing a co angler takes away is the experience & knowledge..
Me personally I fish for the fun of it - to make $$ out of it I fear would ruin the labor of love in the hobby / sport
Now they want you to just be an observer . Screw that.
I will say one thing that if a boater expects me to give him money then I surely want the same luxury as him as to casting directions etc. The way I see it is the boater has the best part of this deal (I know he owns the boat). I have witnessed boaters that won't even stop casting long enough to net a non-boaters fish or even yells at him to horse the fish in so he does not have to wait. These boaters don't deserve to have a co-angler. My opinion!
My question to my boater. What are we fishing? Deep, mid, shallow water. That’s all I ask. There are things we disagree on but it’s situational. The max I give a boater is $40 that’s my budget. But if a boater blocks me from fishing that to this day is the only Boater I never paid. Been doing this since 2015. Learned a lot over these year ready for this next season
I will say this... You’ve made more mistakes than me 😂 we all learn from experience 😂 last season my boater gave a 2.5 square bill a full send into my shoulder 😂 it was his first tournament and he learned how to use braid to pull a treble hook out
Respect...no “mad respect” to all the co-anglers out there! I give you fellas props Frfr! Especially if you have this guys mental attitude and respectfulness of the “pro” or whoever fishing in the front of the boat!!! With that being said, if I was ever good enough to tournament fish, I would def invest in my own boat and try my best to be the boat owner and running that trolling motor lol! Cause it just sounds like co-anglers/back of boat guy is literally like the red headed step child fishing!
I do hear that co-anglers can make mega bucks themselves without the cost of a boat if not sponsored, but I’ve seen that your not with the same angler Every day and they may be fishing offshore compared to you killing the shallow water bank fishing day prior with someone else. But you get no say so in where ya Gunna fish everyday... blahhh to that
Keep up the hard work man. Good content!!
I fished as a co angler one one time because a so called friend asked me to. Caught the biggest bass of the tournament and my boater pitched a fit. Never again and is not my friend anymore
60$ min gas money? Lol, I just ask how much he wants. Most of the time its only 30$. Now.. if the boater and I have a good time, sure ill definitely give gas money or maybe more than whst was asked. But as someone that is a boater as well - i personally wouldn't ask for gas money.. its my boat. And I'm gonna go fish where I want to. Now if I went somewhere my co angler wanted, I could understand wanting some gas money. But I feel like no boater should expect a co angler to always be hand and foot and just throw 60 bucks there way. Not against it by any means, but I feel like it should not always be expected.
Ive fished the BFL as a co angler for the past 2 years in the Illini Division. Ive not had the first boater to be uptight about anything. Now ive been put in situations where I've had nothing to fish or the boater set himself up to be the only one to fish a spot and Ive made due by fishing the other side of the boat that the boater wasn't. I get everything that you have said in your videos, but Im out there trying to win just as the boater. Not once has a boater gotten upset with me with my approach to this. But at the same time I'm very respectful with everything and there boat.
Nice! Thats just the points im trying to make here. Just be nice but no need to roll over
Just wait. You haven't fished enough tournaments. Your day from hell is coming .lol
@@georgeadcock2347 It truly comes down to what you make of it. I take adversity and turn it into positivity for myself.
The main reason for co-anglers on these pro circuit is for the co to learn how to catch fish not to tell your boater to move the boat position so u can catch fish because your frustrated and I understand that it cost quite a bit to be a co angler but at the same time u have to understand that the pro is doing this for a living so whatever he does goes and u should not question it. being back boated is definitely not fun but at the same time they are the ones that have put the most money, time and effort into catching those fish and ultimately paying their bills. So if u go into co-angling with a mindset of your gonna try to win and catch the most fish during that event your probably not gonna learn very much because your mind is in the wrong place. be a co-angler to learn how to catch fish on different bodies of waters and conditions so that when u go to fish pro circuits yourself u have that knowledge from when u fished on the co-angler side. #1 rule is always respect the boater no matter how much time is left and u haven't caught anything. be a sponge because u can learn stuff from the pros even if u don't catch anything.
Completely agree it seems most people think of being a co angler as some sort of team tournament (which exist for those saying co angler isn’t fun) it’s about learning about how a pro fishes and breaks down the water and if you want to go somewhere in the fishing world it’s highly encouraged to start as a co angler to gain experience. 👍
Who knew gas money could create such controversy.....lol. I always felt $50/day seemed fair. Yes your boater might make a 2 hour run, but ultimately he’s doing that for himself and would be making that run if you weren’t in the boat with him. $50 for gas and some ice is plenty fair IMO......unless you get paired with Lou, then you have to add a bottle of Fiji water to the list. 😂
Lol thanks for the laugh! Thats right bring me some fiji! None of that better value stuff hahaha
$50 is a little high
I say $30
Guys just go out and go with the flow as long as you’re respectful and go out to learn you’ll have a good time regardless. This is making it seem like you’re the boaters “maid”. There isn’t that much thinking in being a co angler.
Fishing out of the back of the boat with 4 different people in local tournaments pissed me off so bad that I bought my own boat . The God complex of the person on the trolling motor is un excusable ! I don't go fishing to kiss some ones ass all day !
Way over thinking. It’s not that complicated. It’s fun, relax fish
Great co-angler tips. Appreciate you taking the time to provide your perspective on being in that position. I think it’s all about being a good sport, thoughtful, respectful, and just putting yourself in the boaters Shoes. God bless!
The boater at 9:15 is a really cool dude fished with him before
Your nuts for giving a boater $60-80 for gas. Max u shud have to give is $50. I never gave a boater over $40. And they were completely happy with it.
@Top Dawg sure he doesn't get asked back,,,,,,,, wherever he goes
Every boater i fished with told me $40 was the standard. So i gave them $40.
Top dawg, i got a dollar for ya lmfao. Put that in your gas tank
You chose to be a boat topdawg lol get over it
And as a co-angler im not required to fill for your entire gas tank. Only give you some gas money for riding in your boat the day of the tourney.
Been a co for many tournaments try never to cast beyond the consoles unless the boater says different have been back boated by a few boaters will never let that happen again because it's just not right as a boater myself I never back boated a co as for gas have many boaters refuse to take money, I offer all my boaters forty bucks because basically I'm just buying them dinner dosen't matter if their number is called and they drop the trolling motor and never start the gas motor or if they decide to go 100 miles always take care of the boat like it's gold.
Great video, I always thought co angler is a lot like being a apprentice. And your video makes me believe that even more. Do you fish with the same guy all weekend?
Not on 3 day events
Great vid. Its my first year as co.
I been told you have to fish the opposite bait your boater is fishing. Is that true?
Basically sounds like you prefer the co-angler to be the servant of the boat..talking about the "relationship" on the boat.
And don't act (boaters) as if the co anglers are dumb or just beginners and deserve to get whatever type treatment.. there have been more than a few tournaments won by boaters who won because of the co angler putting them on fish.. it works both ways
Thats a nice stash of rod n reels, goood vid
@Top Dawg no. I sound like sombody who fish's n recignizes when someone has good equipment. I
I had a boater military captain that reeked of bourbon that was interesting. Only talk as much as they want to and stay positive. Good info and all of it is true thanks.
Stopped it at rule #1, if you can't start out good the rest certainly isn't any better. Be prepared you say, then on the heals of it say you are not sharing what you are doing. I bet then you would have the nerve to complain if the CO brought 8 rods and all his tackle. As a boat owner I can say if you want the CO to work with you, then you have to work with them. It doesn't hurt to share basic info so the CO can refine his set ups. If you can't share that without being threatened then you don't have what it takes to begin with.
Hey Bud I don't disagree with you. I'm just relaying what I've seen done. I don't care how many rods or gear a co brings...it's their deal. I was a co and dealt with all types.
Man, I fished with Ed Getty’s one time on Guntersville. Tossin frogs on the mats.
I was young.
I really ticked him off. I threw in on him and landed a solid 6. He netted it and let me have it.
Very informative video!! Thanks for sharing...
If fishing a two day as a coangler should u pay gas to both boaters both days
Yes
Just came here to say..... RAIDER!!!
pretty good golf swing. What's your handicap?
Used to be not bad shot 74 once but would shoot 92 the next week! Cant putt to save my life but was okay at other parts
I used to be a boater but now fish as a co angler. Should I want to cast towards the front but yet off to the side, I ask the boater if he is okay with it first. Should he say yes, I make my cast.
That is the best policy!
I agree and disagree with control your emotions. You also pay up to $500 to be a co angler which is a bunch of money. So they should also be aware that you have paid a lot of money to compete plus helping them cover their cost of gas money for the day!! Just saying they should show some etiquette as well. You can learn more by fishing yourself all month for what you spend for one weekend with a so called pro.
Totally agree Paul. Well said.
This seems stressful as hell lol
Learn how to use all your room premeditate maneuvers grab permits bring ice and drinks of your consumption learn how to launch and recover a boat park and listen to boater to where we are going what we are doing what to throw and how to throw it pre rig your defense and a offense rods ten combos and a limited box playmate size be early ready to go to work! Follow instruction be safe gas money if a big lake upon request I have respect and pay attention to the water if you need something I got it don’t make a habit of it !cath fish be comparable you will find some one you click with!be quick with the net! I don’t have break off policy but make it quick! 3 minutes… be professional don’t be a punk!
If the pro is lost can you tell him what you found? I am on the wall on gas money. I understand you pay a entry also but when they keep you from hitting the good spots and like you said there is a lot of zeros on the co side. Seems like the co should get a fair shake too. I have done it too. I am 72 and fished on pro side down to state tournaments and never kept a partner off fish. I always fished as a team tournament and if you do that you will come out in the end
You are from a better generation that appreciated winning over personal glory. Lots of pros now are narcissistic dipshits. I dont understand why they would even invite a co angler on if they are going to keep them off of fish
@@kingghidorah7104 for the extra revenue for the circuit
@@jimmyharrell9984 Angling is a lifestyle, im all for capitalism and i understand bringing in more money will only help in the long run but if theyre going to act like spoiled little bitches then they shouldnt be competing. When it comes time for weigh ins the only thing that counts is putting fish in the boat. If i found a honeyhole i would want as many baits in that area as possible. Then again im not a tournament angler and can only speak about what i see and not from experience
@Gregory Smith too many local clubs for that to be viable but a good thought! I too have many times been disrespected ny tournament anglers on MY home waters . Many of them seem to think that just because there is a tournament that they are entitled to every spot on the lake.
@Gregory Smith depth charges in boat lanes?
The only thing I ever asked of my co angler was to keep the bottom of the bottom clear of clutter. That would drive me crazy.
New subscriber. Great video. Thanks for all the info! Is this a question you have answered before: How does one become a co-angler? Thanks again! 🎣🇺🇸
Just as simple as signing up! Either Flw bass ,ABA, bass clubs, and local trails
@@BeyondTheBoundsOutdoors thanks man! best wishes in 2020!
Like your hat bro. I live in lbk.. wreckem
Oh thanks I've been doing it all wrong. So if I bring them lunch, buy their gas and beer, sit in the back keep my mouth shut and dip his fish, provide him lures he sees and likes, hey even spool his line on his reel he just backlashed I'd be a good co-angler. Sounds fair to me.
I can't fish as a co angler I'm not stuck out in the middle of the lake and can't fish
Would be nice if their was a sign at every boat ramp that said be courteous turn your lights of for others
Paying money to be front ended by a so called "pro" all day.There are so many quality fishing instructional videos available today you can learn so much more than paying some supposed pro to show you how to fish.Fish team tourney with friends,catch more fish,enjoy the experience,have more fun and be part of a team.
I never accepted money from a co angler. I was there to fish regardless if I had a co angler or not. I have seen boaters screw co anglers by charging them a crazy amount for fuel.
I’m gonna start fishing by myself ! I get rookies idiots senial old men and untrained personnel that can’t drive back recover and park no ethics or educate they think there above me!”just cuz you have a boat dosent make you a better fisherman”after he drops my champion on a concrete launch ramp bolts away in a tundra! Wants to get up front and tell me where he wants to fish!
Last time I took someone fishing with me I through the motor mouth,complaining puck in and left him.this why I fish alone.
Asking for gas is b.s.. most will offer but I was fishing regardless. Now, having said that I always split the gas when going offshore.
Offshore is a different breed on the gas bill😂😂😂😂
If we bring people it’s basically expected that they cover the gas
@@ethanprice2339 exactly.
I would make any co-angler swim back if he or she left my back deck that dirty! This video defiantly makes me reconsider ever fishing as a co angler. I think it sucks as a boater you have to take a co angler for various reasons. Wonder if participation would go up if taking a co angler was voluntary. Just a thought! At this point in the game I’d rather grab a buddy and fish a team tourney vrs going into a FLW event as a co. Seems like a big headache with all these co angler videos posted basically stating the same exact things.
Co angling doesn’t sound fun at all
it sounds like a learning experience, and it's a shame but lessons cost
Bill York ehhh it’s just motivation to get your own boat .
Co angling with this clown wouldn’t be. I wouldn’t be on people so much. Everyone needs to have fun and if your $200 for a tournament NEEDS to yield a win to this point don’t spend your money.
It's really not. Co angling sucks imo. That's why I bought my own boat
@@johnwesley6929 Yep that's why it's going away.
First event I was ever a co in I was back boated all 8 hours and I Hooked a big one when he finally went up in pads and it got wrapped up I asked him to go in and try and get it out and he just told me absolutely not the day was about him catching fish not me
Wow
Don't spray sunscreen all over painted finish of boat.
40 bucks your only buying the boater dinner I don't care if they call their number and they drop the trolling never start the main motor or run 100 miles because on the body I live on I have spots all over and the boaters will not stop some ask if I have spots and I have put my boaters on fish.
There should be a front of the boat angler tips. Always videos about how to make the other guy happy but not about how they treat the co. It's becoming elitist... I don't owe the front of the boat anything. I'm really nice and cordial but they can lick my anus if they think they are the "boss". We've both paid our dues and both know we're fishing with someone we probably don't know. I don't expect them to tell me anything other than the game plan as far as what they are doing. If we're staying off shore that needs to be known. I've never had a problem with a boater but the few that started to get a little grumpy ended up putting a smile on cuz although I'm not taking any crap I'm super nice about it... I know I'm coming off a little crass but text does that... Most of my experiences have been really good for learning and just having someone there that has probably been in the back and can give great advice.
Not crass at all dude. I had awesome boaters. I treat all my cos how I wanted to be treated. I am with you if they are dicks then you don't have to be nice to them.
Thank you for posting useful fishing information. I have a suggestion, as a US Veteran. Please display your US Flag with the Union to the left. (US Flag etiquette) 😎👍🇺🇲
fixed it! As a veteran myself couldn't agree more.
Ive been a co angler a lot and I have my own boat. I have an issue with money for gas. That boater is going to spend the same gas whether a co angler is in the boat or not. But I’ve been with boaters that are so anal about things its not enjoyable. Hell I’ve let my co anglers run the trolling motor sometimes.
I kinda agree, maybe pay 20 percent or so but half when your fishing from the back after they have fished the best places and they get all the free sponsorship lures and baits, doesn’t seem right. Your not getting to fish half the good spots from front
I’ve never had an issue paying the boater. So much prep, cleaning the boat, and if they are good they actually care about getting you a limit.
Is it bad that I want to send this to a couple guys?
tloftis871 SEND IT!
What about if you have to go washroom
$60? That’s nuts. $20...maybe $30 max but nothing more.
Bro your cheap and I guess you don't own a tournament ready bass boat . If you handed me that in my 2017 Falcon You best believe I am shutting down my console units . I would tell you to keep your money any how but that's just cheap and I am sure your known as the cheap ass co angler
@@mikejoned7148 shut down that console unit. I’m still giving you $20-30 bucks. I don’t need anything from your boat but the live well. $20-30 is fair. I don’t need any of your stuff.
@@Colwell1199 when your trying to win as the guy on the bow of the boat. 4 units 1 being a 360 that's a good amount of khz running through the water. I always try to give the Co angler something to fish. Always welcome to take a quick trip to the bow and check out the graphs. I will keep the units on pending the water. I try to be fair unless someone is a dick .
@@Colwell1199 do you own a bass boat ? A fiber glass or a tin rig?
@@Colwell1199 actually you need the back deck the boat and the outboard motor and the trolling motor is well so to say just the live well and a ride
Listen to this guy.. 6:50..
About gas money..says " hes probably been running his boat all week" lol so what I didnt tell him to do that...
Then compares it to golf haha..
You bring your own clubs
You bring your own fishing poles
You pay your own entry fee also guy
And you share a cart