Army of First Responders Respond to Major Boat Accident. What Happened? (Black Point Marina)
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Boat accident at Black Point Marina in Miami Florida was the scene of a fatal boat accident. Word on the street and what has been reported one person had died from his injuries and possibly by drowning.Fwc is currently doing a full investigation of what actually happened so please take all this information as non factual until the investigation is over.
It was the owner of the Boat friend who passed away which is my Brother Michael Garcia A.K.A Butter
Thanks for clearing that up, Hazel.Sorry for your loss. My prayers go out to you and his immediate family
Prayers to you and your family.. God rest his soul 🙏
😢😢😢 So sorry for your loss.
My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. So sad 🙏🙏🙏
Damn my condolences goes out to your family and friends just straight sad I’m so sorry 😢🙏🙏
I never wore PFD underway on my bay boat and to make it worse, years ago I fished lake waters in freezing temps. Never connected the kill switch lanyard. Until I saw a video several years ago with 2 wildlife officers that were ejected from their boat. They were going approx. 35 mph and by the time they realized what happened, both were in the water. One was wearing the inflatable vest, other wearing inflatable belt. They hit the water so violently the one with the inflatable belt had belt ripped off his body. The other one saw his buddy in trouble, went to him and helped him to shore. The driver way wearing kill lanyard to kill the engine. After the boat was pulled from the water, they found a small log with deep cuts which matched the prop. Both of them stated they never saw the log floating right below the surface. I started wearing inflatable vest and lanyard every time the boat is underway. I also wear the vest when I am fishing alone unless I am inshore fishing in skinny water. I live on NC coast, they passed a law a few years ago that all recreational boats under a specific length (I think 26') must wear kill lanyard when boat is on plane.
You're a well-spoken guy. First class, compassionate and respectful!😊😊
Alfred, you provided great coverage last week on that accident. It was very upsetting to see that boats damage but after hearing about the death, I was sick to my stomach. I always wondered, why do these boats need to travel at such a high rate of speed? Back in the 80’s a friend of mine was killed under the George Washington bridge when he struck a large piling at a very high rate of speed. The piling punctured through the hill and killed him instantly. Ever since then (I was a kid at the time) I drove like an old man. It doesn’t pay to take any chances. May the guy from Miami Rest In Peace and May his family be able to to get along without him. ❤
Apparently they lost power steering, not really anything anyone can do about that, it’s just unfortunate.
News got through to us in the UK, through boating forums. One person died and two others were hurt as the result of a boating accident on Tuesday 26th in the afternoon near Black Point Marina, authorities said.
Air and boat rescue crews were called around 2:45 p.m. to the area after receiving reports of a boating incident, Miami Dade Fire Rescue said.
According to Florida Fish and Wildlife, a 39' Contender was traveling at a high rate of speed in Biscayne Bay when the boat's operator lost control, ejecting the three people on board.
Hey alfred been following before the varado video, I am 62 YR old been fishing all my life Many times offshore. This happened on the West Coast of Florida. 4 professional football players went fishing in FEB 2009 they fished a wreck about 70 miles off shore and lost a anchor the following week they went back and got Stuck again Not willing to lose the anchor they tied it to one side of the boat the wrong way and gave full throttle. The boat rolled over and threw them out. One guy had put on a thin layer jumpsuit Because he got cold on the way out the rest of them were in T shirts and shorts the boat stayed anchort upside down they got on top of the hull. They had not told anybody where they were going and they did not have a EPIRB They were out there for days. Unfortunately 3 had succumb to hypatermia. The guy that put the jumpsuit on had just enough of a barrier to keep warm. He watched his friends all die 1 at a time he told a chilling story of the whole event. MUST HAVES EPIRB VHF PFD And leave a float plan to tell somebody where you are going When I go off shore. I have these things and I always have a float plan If they had left one, they might have not died and got found sooner.
Incident happened in Feb 2009.
Yeah. According to Contender it is rated for 1600HP max. It is on their website.
Engines going 'hard over' on a loss of electronics sounds like a severe malfunction that should never (by design) happen. Typically, powered components (of any type) are designed to fail in a 'fail-safe' mode of operation. My assumption here is that the 'electronics' that failed had something to do with a steering (i.e., autopilot) failure. Multiple outboard motors on transoms are arranged so that port and starboard mounted engines rotate in opposite directions to counteract unbalanced (left/right) thrust. This allows the boat to go "straight" with minimal action of the steering wheel. Maybe the issue was a loss of two engines that rotate in the same direction which could result in a sudden change of boat direction (especially at 80mph). An issue with that configuration would explain a 'hard over' on a combination engine failure plus and/or a steering failure. An extra 200 hp over rated is a lot of excess power and transom weight too - both which can affect steering and handling.
Alfred - The boat probably hit the sea bottom. The accident happened at low tide (2pm 9/26) and it appears the boat was west of Black Ledge shoal where the water was probably average 3 feet deep and there is a small unmarked shoal the size of a tennis court there (you can see it on the chart) that is treacherous. I have seen a boat that hit it at normal speed and ended up grounded, but hitting it at high speed could result in the sad situation that happened. Leaving Black Point channel to the North, for deep water you must keep Black Ledge to your west and Featherbed Banks to your east. Can be tricky for boaters unfamiliar with the area. On the other hand, heading SSE out of Black Point channel there are miles of deep water. To visualize better check a marine chart and it becomes very clear. Captain Tom
Alfred thank you for doing what you do. Things like this are extremely tough to do. You show the good and unfortunate things that happen on the water. Thank you brother and take care of yourself. 🙏🇺🇲
What Captain Lance said is right. Cause that's the same thing the news said. And the Owner of the boat said it on the news.
We love our first responders!!
Good! They get paid very well to do a job that requires almost no education.
However, I'm reasonably certain that those folks in Maui are not as pleased with the performance of their first responders. They probably throw coconuts 🥥 at them when they drive by!
Additionally, I know for damned sure that there are people in Uvalde Texas who are absolutely furious with their first responders! They DEFINITELY didn't get their monies worth!
You covered the accident with great compassion. Great job!!
Thanks to Captain Lance . Thank you Alfred for the detailed account and investigation
Mechanical failure sounds like a big lawsuit
That law suit goes out the window if infact the boat was motified, like putting bigger motors on.
So sorry to hear about the tragedy turning deadly. Your coverage has been so interesting, and yet respectful.
Those of you who live in communities where law enforcement is valued, count your blessings. Things have gotten so bad here in Seattle. It's not safe anymore. They even recently closed one of our major boat ramps as it had become a hotbed of drug dealing, yet the City Council does nothing. The law abiding boaters are overruled by the criminals. It is our new normal.
Blessings to you Alfred, to all the first responders, and to the family of the victims of this accident. 😢
The call came from a third party, probably the witness. Initially, it was a boat accident with two people in the water. Then they updated it that they were looking for a third victim. The next update was that the third victim was pulled from the water, and they were performing CPR. Someone in that boat stayed on the line with 9-1-1 the whole time giving precise coordinates that expedited the rescue operation. That was the boat that Capt. Lance was referring to. Those people on that boat are true heroes and probably saved two lives. Such a tragic event.
Thanks for posting the link, Alfred. You really helped my struggling channel. So sad, though.
The guys from Hhh were true heroes
Hearing that kind of info from Capt. Lance is helpful. Why dose a boat that size rely on electronic steering. That should have been hydraulic steering
Alfred I also have been ejected from a boat, it was not fun. As a counter point i was not wearing a PFC and that in this situation saved my life. It was a bimini start at a fishing tournament, the boat I was on was fast! It was still dark out at the launch, we were hit on the side by another boat. That said, I found myself underwater with 100s of flats boat flying over me!!!! I swam down as deep as I could to avoid being hit.. Held my breath as long as I could as boats zoooooomed over me! That said, I agree, we MUST wear our lanyards and PFC. FYI that fishing tournament that will go un mentioned, no longer does bimini starts and REQUIRES PFC while the boat is moving. If you are caught without it while moving, you will be disqualified. Such a sad story yall!!!!
Prayers go out to the families involved. The ocean is a vicious thing. It can take you at any moment. When things go wrong when your scooting across the water things can go wrong VERY FAST. God Bless, Bro.
Great interview with Capt. Lance to get the details!!!!
I was on the edge of my seat.
What a shame, prayers to the families. Thank you for sharing this information.
18:55 Your nephew pretending to dive in 🤣🤣🤣 He obviously knows Fred 🐊
you are absolutely correct about the lanyard and PFD - they are a must - I have nut run a boat without the lanyard since 88 - from what I have heard about the accident and your accident I do not want hydraulic steering on any boat - I was not aware of the turning of the motors on loss of electrical power - I had an English Whaler 17 with a 115up on it - Aquasport barrowed it to make a commercial before it was delivered to me - they clocked it with radar doing 52MPH on the last run, every run thy did was faster - first day I put it in the water my partner on both the boat and business did a hard max left turn at full speed - if my leg did not get hook under the rear bench seat I was sitting on I would have been thrown at least 20 feet out of the boat - it rolled enough to splash water in the boat - the only other time that boat had water in it was when he tried to jump a huge, at least 5ft wake at almost full power and buried the bow - I went thru Haulover over 30 times when it was bad and never got a drop in it - yes, he was crazy - he drove his car the same way -
Hydraulic steering wasn't the problem. People have been using hydraulic steering for years. The problem is more likely to do with the fact the new boats are all electronic over hydro steering instead of last gen's motors that were cable over hydro steering.
Prayers to all involved, from Arizona City, Az.
In gear-lanyard and PFD on. Chit can happen at the dock let alone anywhere else.
Friends new bass boat was cleared after the breakin hours. Entered a tournament the next day. Running 60+ to their honey hole the steering rod on the outboard snapped. Interior metal defect. The boat took a 90 degree(square)right turn. He had front and rear GoPros, tossed him and his bud immediately over the port gunnel so fast he still had his hands held like holding the wheel. He had on the lanyard and both had their PFDs on, unconscious but face up, outboard died so it didn't come around and chop them.
Wear your PFDs and lanyards-or stay home, already enough stupid people on the water.
Omg!
Eye witness claims they were in a tight continuous turn and boat kept going in circles. he claimed the passengers said they lost steering and throttle control.
I was on a 30 Sonic with 2 i think 545? They were changed out. We were in a poker run. We were flying. The power steering belt brook. The boat shoot to the left. Thank God the boat just skipped across the water and we were looking the opposite direction.
The 39 contender are really only supposed to be powered with trips even if it’s 450r’s really not meant for quads at all
That is correct the max 450's this boat is rated for is 3/triple Outboard engine set-up
Prayers guy in the boat
Guy that died also had a 39 contender dad used to be at the Bahamas every other weekend
Dang man, I had no idea you got thrown off.... I have come close to getting flipped over when my wife was driving and didn't see a huge side wave hit us... I never go faster than 40 MPH.. too scary.
Damn thanks for the video pray for the family
Don't know why you would put quad 450s on that boat. Trip 425s is the perfect setup for it
Thanks Alfred for the udate. Your right, it is easy to speculate on the cause of any accident. Like you said, there were survivors, so there will be verifiable proof.
I really dont think any of the first responders get the respect they are due. They have a very hard job, at times. They have to deal with helping injured, and unfortunately fatalities, with all the blood and gore that the news can't show. I have had several friends as first responders, i have seen the first moments after an accident, it takes a special person to deal with that everyday. Combat veterans witness it as well. They all deserve a special place in you prayers.
Thank you sir for all you do for your channel.
God bless you and your family, and stay safe out there getting these stories.
Amazing First Responders ❤
Alfred, I'm a bit curious about this engine response of cutting over after loss of power, is this how the end responds after losing power or is it the steering or something else????? Curious
If the electronics failed, I see a lawsuit coming to all manufacturers involved. What a tragedy, just out having fun, and in a split second, gone! If the electronics did in fact fail, and cause the accident, this is why I hate the idea of electronically controlled brakes, and throttle. 👍😎✌🗽
Not if the owner modified it. And
That's crazy
@@joshuamcmullen2833Wouldn't matter. If the electronics failed, they'd still sue. Whether they win or not is another matter, and you have a great point in the fact he may have altered the boat which should nullify all warranties, and responsibilities.
@@joshuamcmullen2833that’s what I was wondering about…
I’m pretty sure putting on bigger motors than a boat is rated for would probably invalidate any warranties.
PFD,s save lives. Out of all the body's that I have recovered from under water only one of them was wearing a pfd and it was a manual inflat vest that was not deployed. Out of all the people I have I have pulled out of the water only one died wearing a PFD. It was a tragic tuber vs vessel accident.
Probably the 400 vs 450 motors wouldn’t have mattered. If the motors went hard left, it would’ve happened anyway.
Open water boat accidents are almost always caused by operator error unless lanyard safety switch was accidently activated during a high speed turn with sudden loss of power allowing boat to heave over to outside of turn catching chime and hooking boat into a rollover accident. Tragic. Ray Stormont
Be safe out on the water! Safety first, then teamwork.
Just curious. Maybe someone can answer this...... When you get up into the larger boats with multiple outboards and HP ratings, does 200 HP even make that big of a difference? I mean 1600HP vs 1800HP are both ridiculous numbers and totally unheard of not too long ago.
Just got a chance to see your video referencing the accident. It would be odd to have this boat doing 80+ mph where there was deputy who had a boat pulled over with his lights flashing, so I agree with you that they may not have witnessed it.
Dear God. Alfred didn't you say he was testing that boat?? So tragic
Thank you for the update
That’s why you don’t trust glass cockpits all thought you don’t have much of a choice recently
Sorry for your loss brothers are true friends
Did i hear that right? 80mph is a 31' foot boat on the ocean???
Some say the boat was overpowered by 200 hp....
What brand boat is the TowboatU.S. in the video around the 11 min mark? That thing is sweet.
Do a simulation video of what you think happened and the cause so that others can understand
Question bro if get tow boat I get uk can use it there can ask captain Lance pz bro
People still feel that drinking on a boat is cool, everyone gets shit faced….. that’s a recipe for disaster. Then I end up bringing everyone in to keep them safe. Boating with drinkers is a job brother. I feel it’s my job to keep them safe, but then I don’t relax and enjoy myself. Need some sober boating friends, lol!!!
I got rules on my boat,
You get sloppy you get off,
You vomit you get off,
You pee standing up and miss, you get off
You fall down in calm seas you get off
You argue with me you get off
One of my favorite runs is Seattle to Juneau Alaska It’s about a 900-1000nm run depending on your exact route
It takes me about 12-14 days (can run it nonstop in 6-7days )
I have no problem dropping you off on some middle of nowhere Canadian fishing or logging village for you to smarten up ,
Or some empty Alaskan or Canadian Island along the way
😊
@@geoffreytofte4049 Great rules!!
Speed was definitely a factor
Ok, so from someone who knows about nothing regarding boats.... why is it that when power is lost the boat motors hard right/left turn? Seems to me that is something that should be able to be prevented pretty easily. Somehow on power loss that the motors are locked into place or nearly locked into place and only allowed to turn gradually. With that type of safety feature built in, then that guy might still be alive. So what's the deal ?
Yo Alfred, you are up late... 05:15 hrs over the pond here in the UK, must be 00:15 hrs where you are .. Hope all the family is well, say hello to Fred and Barbie.. Stay safe.
Did someone steal your filming spot??
super mega channel saludos desde santo domingo rd
Great video, well said towards the end!
Who ever rigged it shouldn’t of rigged it with over powered/weighted motors
My god, it took five and half minutes before you said what happened. Do you ever edit??
Morning! He has 3 kids! Not 2.
He was a very close friend of mine.
RIDE IN PIECE MY BROTHER YOU WILL ALWAYSSSSS BE MISSED!!!
How are you making out with your truck, can it be fixed and how are you feeling. Good I hope😮
Slowly getting better Kathy. They said it would be more than a month for my truck to get fixed
@AlfredMontaner sorry to hear that the truck will take that long , but truly glad your on the mend
Sailor, Rest your Oars..
Sounds like it cornered to tightly high on plane, hooked then flipped.
must be a Dodge truck dealer nearby :)
Passenger on boat said boat lost all power at high speed and all steering was lost, causing the crash.
There's a reason manufactures spent lots of money developing boats for peak performance, leave the boats alone
Did u record the lady that fell off on Sunday ? 🤣🤣
Hello Alfred Rocco from Australia Adelaide stay safe on the water
All Hail First Responders
Those guys rock! Prayers for the families effected by this tragedy. Prayers for healing.
They are well paid and provided with the best equipment that money can buy.
A lot of those guys should be thanking us, the taxpayers, for providing them with a decent living....
I know I’ve seen that boat either on your channel or bvh I recognize the chrome bow pulpette
Alfred I heard that they are looking at the stepped hull contributing to the accident
Alfred you did a good job covering the boat accident. Professional and with compassion. It is sad what happen. Prayed for the occupants and family. However going way too fast. No need for that speed. AND repowered boat with too much power and out of spec. Thise are combinations that five the results that happen. Greatly reduced survivability of occupants. Sure Contender will get ahead of this to make aware of those facts to protect their name. Not boats fault.
Wear. Your. Killswitch leash. ... If you value your life and the life of your passengers.
What happened? This guy is not a reporter.😮
don't get me wrong ! please I am very sad about a loss of a loved one im 68 years old and I boat all summer with my sons and family ! but what is the obsession with boats that have way over 1000 horse power ??
My brother has quad 450 s fast as hell
My cuz works for the cost guard in Florida
Ill stick with my slow boat. Speed kills.
I seen that on the world news good Morning America
Am with a bus tour here in Miami and Key West, hoping to meet Fred
Check the bridge
I have tried to watch but it seems Alfred can't construct a coherent sentence. Also he is all over the place with what he is trying to say. Changing the direction of the story. No concentration.
Fishing boats aren't speedboats two different designs people don't get that
Things are designed a certain way because the people that built an designed them did the testing and trials before they built em when people change things it doesn’t always turn out for the best .
Damn my condolences goes out to there family members brother it’s dangerous on the water please stay safe everyone we’re your kill switch make sure you have your vest just be careful it’s not a joke out there idk just be aware of ur surroundings and obviously speed does kill and can go wrong n a second that’s with anything I’m just saying be careful and safe 🙏🙏
Get on Joe's butt about not having a PFD
Wow that's sad as hell
You can hear everything on transit Joe channel wow
it is max 1600
How much sea tow pz do contact bro
Isn't there a dead man s swatch for the boat
If it can handle 4 400s then 4 450s isnt the problem
That’s awesome brother my brother vmhasvthat confender 6:04
Don't leave your post Alfred you're supposed to be at the marina 24 hours a day. Less money for you
Crazy speed isn't good
Electronics fail and made boat turn the guys buying boat was noones friend either the owner of boat or driver knew this guy.. this guy's people are saying that is a postalita that he was making it seem hi wanted to buy boat but he doesn't have a penny to purchace a boat. Now the driver owns same 39ft contender for many years and was and experience driver , and another info this is over the 4 contender that has done this same scenario all with 4 motors
So sad
Traumatic for them too! ESP when you aren’t able to save a life….😢 prayers to all
The chit show is real No staging The tugboat show with cape Anna is the hottest thing on the internet great reality they have the guts to