Just an old woman in my 70's here and I've taught a lot of people that very knot. Make a loop in the long side, bring the short end out of the loop hole: The squirrel comes out of the hole, goes around the tree and back in the hole. That's it. It is easy to untie as the loop isn't too tight on the short end. I use it for so many things. Tying a load on my truck starts with this knot. Then I can tie into it if need be.
Haha! Yeah. It's a very easy knot to tie once you learn it...and if you do it enough like I do, you can do it just by feel. The 2nd most common knot I use with a cleat hitch being the most common
@@CaptKenO Very interesting how you manage the currents, they kinda scare me. I'm not around boats much now here in the PNW. I even use it to tie up tomato stems! Never heard it pronounced the way you did but I thought it has to be...even tiny on the video I watched your loop and thought I know that knot and like you say, by feel. since Horse 4-H at age 10.
Great job! I can tell the Skipper on this pull definitely was born on the water raised on the water and knows the water. What a great job. Definitely professional, relaxed and calm. Love it. There are a lot of guys that know this also but what a pro
Another paradise, sunny skies, warm weather, and on the water. Are you hiring lol. Nice job Cap. That was alot of weight to getting moving but you did it...
Thanks Vancity! Haha. Yeah, this sucks doesn't it? 🤣 Unfortunately, we're heading into the time of year this job becomes less enjoyable as the weather gets colder...these center consoles don't offer much protection from the wind and no cabin heating 😑
@@CaptKenO There is a spot here in British Columbia very few people ever visit because you have to wait for the tide to get back out. 12 hours in a 1/2 mile wide 4 mile long lagoon ( Nepah Lagoon ) with 1 narrow, shallow pass for entry / exit and it is to deep to drop anchor. Around 400 feet deep with a bottom that is nearly impossible to get a good hold on. Even a shallow draft centre console has to wait until high water slack to make it through the pass, the tidal flow is a killer in full flow. Tony Fleming took his Fleming 65 in once and posted vid on here titled Venture visits Nepah Lagoon. The tender ( they used a 18 foot rib ) was able to go through and check depth at low water slack so they could verify it was safe to transit for the 5'4" draft Venture. He included a bit of it in full flow, white water tidal flow.
nice bit of boat control.. those folk were lucky you spotted them beached on that sandbar. you made the recovery look so so easy competent professionals always give that impression ... just smooth and pulling in the right direction .your towing fixture looked well up to the job .great video .. cheap rescue if you ask me .those folks can breathe a sigh of relief and go get ready for a nice evening meal to celebrate .
In Italia i motori sopra i 40cv è obbligatorio prendere la patente nautica (anche con quella un sacco di gente è molto pericolosa in mare....!! 😢😅) e da noi il nodo che hai fatto alla galloccia di prua lo chiamiamo romanticamente "gassa d'amante". Complimenti, ottimo lavoro capitano!! 👏👏
How about something even more important...demonstrate the ability to actually operate a boat safely? Not that this situation was caused by unsafe operation, but I see so much dangerous operators on the water I'd much rather start there
I think you should humble yourself. If you can't reason why people don't know the terms. Every car has tires but most people don't know what a lug nut is. Get off your high horse.
@@shelfingtonthe3rd659 To be able to quickly tie a knot that can pull tons and also is quickly untied is an important skill for safety reasons. This kind of a tow could be made without the boats getting closer than 50 feet if the beached captain knew his basics. This time it was on a sand bar, the next time he's had an engine failure and is up on a rock and things need to be quickly resolved in a safe manor. BTW, where I live, it's actually mandatory to know what a lug nut is, since you have a responsibility to check them a while after changing tires, also for safety reasons. As proven by thousands of videos, Florida is unfortunately plagued by too many rich people that have absolutely no clue what they are doing, while running some seriously big boats - and they are surely not humble at all, while they should be!
IVE ALWAYS DONE A GRANNY KNOT A MATE USED TO ALWAYS HASSLE ME FOR IT ONE DAY WE WHERE TALKING IN OUR DINGY S WHILE DOING SO HE UNTIED MY KNOT AND DID A BEAUTIFUL BOWLINE I LOST MY DINGY IN A STORM NOT LONG AFTER DUE TO HIS KNOT LETTING GO , MOREL OF THE STORY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN ANY KNOT IS THAT IT HAS PLENTY OF TAIL! PS IF THEY ALL EXEPT CAPTIN GOT OF BOAT IT WOULD BE LIGHTER AND THEY COULD ALSO ROCK THE BOAT
In Texas, (where there may not be environmental laws like Florida) we back up close to the grounded boat, attach the towing gear, and use the thrust from our propellers to wash the sand from beneath the grounded boat, at the same time clearing a little "channel" to tow the boat off the sandbar.
It's too shallow to get close to him and use the prop wash. I'm out that far so I'm not running my props through the sand and sucking it up into my engines
Nah, that was just a clip from an old video. There's a lot of things I don't miss about that old boat, but every time I do a more difficult grounding I do miss it...and long jobs too. It was much more comfortable for those long tows than these center consoles
I know that you know what/why you pull grounded boat with a Long tow rope. What I want to know is Why so long a rope? Why not closer to grounded boat to throw your prop wash under the grounded boat? Yes, I also know you can't do your work in 3' of water under Tow Boat. Thanks for explaining your technical applications.
Hey Barry! You already kinda nailed the reason...depth. I don't want to be in shallow water and running the engines that hard as they'll suck up a lot of sand and kill the water pump and possibly clog water channels, so I let out what seems a lot of line so I can get to deeper water
The longer rope lets you the tow boat get into deeper water so you dont foul the engines. As you rev the engines the transom will drop into the water a little. Also you can zig zag the stuck boat if needed. And you dont want to be too close to the towed boat in case something bad happens. When you do unstick the boat it will lurge towards you. Better to keep some distance.
There’s also more stretch in a longer rope which lessens the chance of breaking. Finally I’ve seen boats being towed on a short line crash into the tow boat when released (saw this two weeks ago with a yacht).
Great job, Capt Ken, may I suggest a pole anchor thingy for shallow water🤣 ur very skilled at recovery Ken. 👍🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟did the other boat have more power as well? U think those blokes would have got off the boat and pushed but no. Gorgeous dog
Thanks Sea Wench! Are you talking about a power pole? The old boat actually had about 350 less horses...but that's not what matters. It's how much of that power it delivers to the water, and it did a much better job with that
Question. The majority of boats you pull off sand bars did the people miss the channel or did they partly beach them to walk on the sand bar and as the tide went out they became beached? Up here in Cape Cod we run our boats up to the sand bars, but we also know don't go to far onto them with the boat unless you want to become beached. We also know from experience what the difference in the color of the water means and channel markers.....ahhh its shallow over there, boater beware. But if you say they ran up on a sandbar during mid to high tide its like....wth?
The answer to your questions is..... Yes 😂 The ones where the sand is above the water is usually purposely beached and the tide just went out and the ones where there's still some water under the boat is usually unintentional beaching. We don't get the tidal changes like you do in the northeast with our usual tides being around 2ft high high to low low and the intermediate around 1ft
@@CaptKenO Thanks for the feed back and yes I forgot about the difference in tidal changes....Yap they'd get a big surprise here when the tide goes out ....by 8'-0" pl;us...lol
when you tie a bowline that will be under strain instead of sticking the single end through the hole make a loop and stick it through. Just as secure and easier to untie.
With how much force is put into this line, if we're not able to break it loose the normal way, we're not going to be able to pull that little "loop" back through either
great work. may i suggest using a hessian bag on the middle of the rope.because if that rope snapped he could kill someone. using a bag the rope tangles up in it stopping it from moving so quickly
That line isn't ever going to break since it's working load is much higher than the force we can generate with these boats...plus, if it did happen to break, it's designed to not snap back and just fall in the water
It's welded to a 1/2in steel plate on the deck which in turn is bolted into the deck and the stringers (frame) of the boat. Basically, if the tow post is ripped out of the boat...my boat is probably in two halves 😬
I was watching your video, you start pulling or towing, towards the sides then the boat is already stranded, it has more drag on the sand, it wouldn't be easier to align the pro boat with its pulp. 
In this instance $0 because he had a membership. If he didn't have a membership, it would've probably been around $1200. A top tier membership only cost $200/year. Definitely worth buying if you have a boat
I've always wondered just how strong those strap points on the fronts of boats are. I know they're intended as winch points as well, but it always seemed sketchy to me putting any significant kind of load on those two small bolts that hold the D ring there (have had a few times where I've towed some peeps back to a dock because of they had engine issues).
Not a damn clue...but somewhere less than the 39k working load of the towline 😂 Now I've heard some people say that force is somewhere around 40lbs/hp...so assuming I'm getting 2/3 of the rated hp out of these 300s, that would put the total force somewhere around 16k lbs. Now that seems quite high to me, so I don't think that is accurate
@@CaptKenO I ask because I was thinking of the soft shackles used in vehicle towing. When boaters can't tie a bowline knot, hand them a soft shackle and a tied bowline. I think most anyone could use a soft shackle. Try a test. I think the shackles I have are rated at 48,000. I've used soft shackles in odd situations when a chain wouldn't reach, etc. Cheers
Kinda surprised they didn’t know how to tie such an easy knot. Silly question, but what’s the average number of service calls annually out of one marina like that? Nice job getting them out!
Thanks Kevin! I would guess that between myself and the other captain who runs this boat with me, we probably did around 500 jobs last year. I know between this boat and the other boat we have up on the Manatee river we did a little over 1000 last year
I have. Wouldn't do me much good though since I have to tie a loop in the end of my line anyway...plus, for something like this, it works great when your on the sandbar, but I wouldn't be able to reach it after I get the boat free
@@CaptKenO its down at Marco Island. I used to work for Boat US down there. Mike was pulling a vessel off the sandbar ad his port side gunnel went under rolling his boat.
That's the strongest point on the boat, plus then we can spin it around and get some momentum going. On this particular job, the back of the boat was digging into the sand, so it wouldn't have just slid backwards
It's hilarious how many male know-it-alls there are in you tube comments who have no clue only unjustified ego, while this you tuber is actually getting the jobs done. Capt Ken your skills are only exceeded by your patience with armchair "experts" who love to fail at schooling you. 😂 New subscriber with a very old Shamrock. I'm psyched to learn from you.
In this instance $0 because he had a membership. If he didn't have a membership, it would've probably been around $1200. A top tier membership only cost $200/year. Definitely worth buying if you have a boat
Cap if that line snaps it is literally going to go right through you. Consider putting up a barrier of some kind just behind the back rest that would protect you from a 400mph 1" thick bullwhip.
Thank you for your concern Dave, but I'm not worried. First, that line will never break. It's working load is far above what we're able to generate with these boats. Second, let's just say something else broke, that line is designed to have very little snap back, so it would fall in the water long before it reached me
I usually try and avoid pulling from the stern for 2 reasons. The first is because a lot of cleats are just screwed into the fiberglass or bolted, but without any backing plates and could rip out pretty easily. The second is if you pull from the stern it could dig into the sand and prevent you from pulling it free
How do you guys prop your boats? Same as usual- using the WOT RPM range? Or do you go for more blade area and lower pitch because the primary purpose of the boat is to pull shit off other shit?
Lol 😂 Good question! I know the prokat is propped WOT and the worldcat is propped for towing (I don't know what prop is on either of them). The whaler I assume is propped WOT as well since that was a converted pleasure boat and I don't think it got re-propped. There's benefits to both. The worldcat pulls hard but is so god damn slow...and the prokat pulls pretty hard, but could do better...but is faster and more efficient
@@CaptKenO Hey, appreciate the reply, bud! I can see the benefits of going both ways, so I was curious which brought more money home. I'm about to watch the Princess vid, and a question occurred to me- where's the liability for damage during recovery fall? I don't know how strong the running gear is on the big stuff, but I'd think that if you had to really reef on something that big, a prop , rudder or strut might get bent?
A short course in rope tying and knots is the FIRST thing to know when becoming a boater. The second thing to know is screwing that drain plug back in before you put the boat in the water. I could go on but I think you newbys get the idea. Simply take a Coast Guard course in boating before you "mount your steed" and become a nuisance to everyone else. CHARGE !!!!!
Unfortunately, a hands on course isn't mandatory in most states, but at least a lot of them now require anyone born after 1988 to pass a safe boating course. Not great, but at least a step in the right direction
On a boat this size, it wouldn't have made much difference. Plus, once it gets moving, I want to keep it moving, and I don't want people to have to swim out to their boat
@@Edelliriano71 You'll notice throughout my videos that I only get off the boat when I can safely beach it. Crappy conditions, nah. They can come to me or wait until a higher tide
Why dont you get closer and use the prop wash to clear the sand from under boat? Thats the way we do it at the lake. But boats arent that big around here....
Not exactly true. For the most part, yes. A larger prop will provide more "bite" than a small prop, but it's the combination of size and pitch that matter. As for thrust, you can either move a large amount of water slowly (big prop slow rpm) or a small amount quickly (small prop high rpm).
Because most of the line we have is braided...but either way, a permanent eye is useless in 90% of the tows we do since it doesn't fit through a trailer eye and we'd have to tie a bowline anyway if we're using a bridle
@CaptKenO you can splice a permanent bridle using three strand. Just don't use polypropylene. Use nylon. I have seen what a two inch polypropylene does when it breaks. Knocked all the windows out of the wheelhouse. That's what happens when the capn says tie off to the bow during February in 17 foot seas 150 miles offshore.
I haven't actually used one, but I've been them used and have thought about it before. However, I don't think it would work too great since they don't float, so all the kinetic energy would be wasted pulling it back up through the water
@@CaptKenO haha, didn't think I get a reply but thanks. Perhaps it would get tight above the water under tension, then load itself up with the energy to work.. Dunno. Your probably right. Perhaps an opportunity in the market yankum to make a floating rope. You wouldnt want to have to tie buoys to it. I think the principal would work well dragging a boat off a sand bar. Cheers anyway. 🇬🇧🍺
@grahamambridge2856 hahaha 😂 I try and respond to most of the comments on my videos especially ones that are genuine questions 😁 I also have no idea how well the ropes would last in the salt water 🤷
@@CaptKenO the bow knot that you tie your shoes is a square knot with a double bight. Tying a knot mid-line is done by pulling loops instead of the bittter end. If you tie the bowline by doubling the entire line then you have a sling to lift a person, one loop for butt and one for back. Our boy scout scoutmaster was a lineman. He demanded unwavering confidence with many knots. That was “knotl forgotten, 65 years ago. Oh,and most people use tie a granny knot instead of a true square knot, which why they come untied.
Form the loop in the line between the boats then the “rabbit” (loop) comes out of his hole, runs around the tree then back into his hole. Notice how much it resembles a sheetbend, with the bight end representing the bitter end of the sheetbend.
Just an old woman in my 70's here and I've taught a lot of people that very knot. Make a loop in the long side, bring the short end out of the loop hole: The squirrel comes out of the hole, goes around the tree and back in the hole. That's it. It is easy to untie as the loop isn't too tight on the short end. I use it for so many things. Tying a load on my truck starts with this knot. Then I can tie into it if need be.
Haha! Yeah. It's a very easy knot to tie once you learn it...and if you do it enough like I do, you can do it just by feel. The 2nd most common knot I use with a cleat hitch being the most common
@@CaptKenO Very interesting how you manage the currents, they kinda scare me. I'm not around boats much now here in the PNW. I even use it to tie up tomato stems! Never heard it pronounced the way you did but I thought it has to be...even tiny on the video I watched your loop and thought I know that knot and like you say, by feel.
since Horse 4-H at age 10.
I've learned something here. Since the '70s, I thought it was a rabbit, not a squirrel. Maybe that's why my bowlines always slip. :)
@@miscellaneous037 Thanks for the laugh!
My squirrel can't remember all that when it needs to
The captain had it under control. Great job.
Thanks Pete!
Getting pulled off a sandbar is an unforgettable experience! Thanks for all your hard work. These services bring a lot of safety and peace of mind!
Hahaha! Is that speaking from experience? 😂
@@CaptKenO YUUUUPPPPP. lol
@@tbranch227 lol also been there. show me a guy with a boat who hasnt been grounded and ill show you a liar :P
Great job! I can tell the Skipper on this pull definitely was born on the water raised on the water and knows the water. What a great job. Definitely professional, relaxed and calm. Love it. There are a lot of guys that know this also but what a pro
Thanks Dive7!
@@CaptKenO lol this is why i prefer aluminum runabouts
Wow. You deserved that tip and more. Great job. It sure is nice to see people that are so thankful and nice.
Thanks Steve!
Loved seeing the dog getting involved thanking for the help 💚
Another paradise, sunny skies, warm weather, and on the water. Are you hiring lol. Nice job Cap. That was alot of weight to getting moving but you did it...
Thanks Vancity! Haha. Yeah, this sucks doesn't it? 🤣
Unfortunately, we're heading into the time of year this job becomes less enjoyable as the weather gets colder...these center consoles don't offer much protection from the wind and no cabin heating 😑
LOL... He doesn't need a tow he needs a trailer. Man, I enjoyed watching her start to float and as usual Ken another job done well.
Thanks Doug!
Just wait for the incoming tide dude
12hrs later? I doubt he'd want to do that
@@CaptKenO There is a spot here in British Columbia very few people ever visit because you have to wait for the tide to get back out. 12 hours in a 1/2 mile wide 4 mile long lagoon ( Nepah Lagoon ) with 1 narrow, shallow pass for entry / exit and it is to deep to drop anchor. Around 400 feet deep with a bottom that is nearly impossible to get a good hold on. Even a shallow draft centre console has to wait until high water slack to make it through the pass, the tidal flow is a killer in full flow.
Tony Fleming took his Fleming 65 in once and posted vid on here titled Venture visits Nepah Lagoon. The tender ( they used a 18 foot rib ) was able to go through and check depth at low water slack so they could verify it was safe to transit for the 5'4" draft Venture. He included a bit of it in full flow, white water tidal flow.
If the tide is going out, you might as well try because it could be another 12 hours for the tide to change.
The Suzuki twins say you're the man.
Good customers, tip and all, makes for a nice day
nice bit of boat control.. those folk were lucky you spotted them beached on that sandbar. you made the recovery look so so easy competent professionals always give that impression ... just smooth and pulling in the right direction .your towing fixture looked well up to the job .great video .. cheap rescue if you ask me .those folks can breathe a sigh of relief and go get ready for a nice evening meal to celebrate .
Thanks Richard!
Nice job. Cap is a stud!
Thanks Silverstar! 😂
Nice job. As a retired boat cop we did alot of towing stuck boats but weren't allowed to accept tips. You have a good thing going there.
I never understood that...they could buy you lunch but not give you money to buy it yourself...🤷
Awesome job cap that was some current there you could see it from your prop wash!
Thanks Sea Shrimp!
Excellent work. You saved their day!
Thanks Heather!
I like the sea, the ships and the waves
In Italia i motori sopra i 40cv è obbligatorio prendere la patente nautica (anche con quella un sacco di gente è molto pericolosa in mare....!! 😢😅) e da noi il nodo che hai fatto alla galloccia di prua lo chiamiamo romanticamente "gassa d'amante".
Complimenti, ottimo lavoro capitano!! 👏👏
Well done 👍
Thanks Theo!
You made it look easy, great job sir...
Thanks milkman!
They got to get on with their day.
Great job.
You would think that if you dock on a sand bar you would pay attention to the tide!!?? haha
You'd be surprised...🤣
As fast as that current was I bet it formed pretty quickly. You could see it from a mile away though.
Good customers always make for a good day.
I think it should be mandatory to demonstrate the ability to tie a bowline before being allowed to operate a boat lol
How about something even more important...demonstrate the ability to actually operate a boat safely? Not that this situation was caused by unsafe operation, but I see so much dangerous operators on the water I'd much rather start there
I think you should humble yourself. If you can't reason why people don't know the terms. Every car has tires but most people don't know what a lug nut is. Get off your high horse.
@@shelfingtonthe3rd659 To be able to quickly tie a knot that can pull tons and also is quickly untied is an important skill for safety reasons. This kind of a tow could be made without the boats getting closer than 50 feet if the beached captain knew his basics. This time it was on a sand bar, the next time he's had an engine failure and is up on a rock and things need to be quickly resolved in a safe manor. BTW, where I live, it's actually mandatory to know what a lug nut is, since you have a responsibility to check them a while after changing tires, also for safety reasons. As proven by thousands of videos, Florida is unfortunately plagued by too many rich people that have absolutely no clue what they are doing, while running some seriously big boats - and they are surely not humble at all, while they should be!
IVE ALWAYS DONE A GRANNY KNOT A MATE USED TO ALWAYS HASSLE ME FOR IT ONE DAY WE WHERE TALKING IN OUR DINGY S WHILE DOING SO HE UNTIED MY KNOT AND DID A BEAUTIFUL BOWLINE I LOST MY DINGY IN A STORM NOT LONG AFTER DUE TO HIS KNOT LETTING GO , MOREL OF THE STORY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN ANY KNOT IS THAT IT HAS PLENTY OF TAIL! PS IF THEY ALL EXEPT CAPTIN GOT OF BOAT IT WOULD BE LIGHTER AND THEY COULD ALSO ROCK THE BOAT
@@michaelroberts6299 LOL
Why have i never seen videos like this? What an amazing job!
Thanks Austin!
In Texas, (where there may not be environmental laws like Florida) we back up close to the grounded boat, attach the towing gear, and use the thrust from our propellers to wash the sand from beneath the grounded boat, at the same time clearing a little "channel" to tow the boat off the sandbar.
It's too shallow to get close to him and use the prop wash. I'm out that far so I'm not running my props through the sand and sucking it up into my engines
Hey Ken, you got the 'OLD' boat back again? Nice tip, class act! Sometimes a safe boating course comes in handy - they're relatively inexpensive too!
Nah, that was just a clip from an old video. There's a lot of things I don't miss about that old boat, but every time I do a more difficult grounding I do miss it...and long jobs too. It was much more comfortable for those long tows than these center consoles
Boat like that, where its at, why dont you pull straight back from the transom?
The stern was up on the sand, so it would've dug in if I pulled backwards
With a boat like that. He can afford to tip good!
Lol 😂
He sure can!
@@CaptKenO But none the less, very nice of him.
Most definitely. Especially since more often than not, I don't get tipped, regardless of how nice the boat is
Excelente vídeo. Saludos Gaston desde Alicante.
Gracias Gaston!
Well done 👍👍😉
Thanks VH!
Good guys. $100 tip means they admit to their mistakes and appreciate your help
I know that you know what/why you pull grounded boat with a Long tow rope. What I want to know is Why so long a rope? Why not closer to grounded boat to throw your prop wash under the grounded boat? Yes, I also know you can't do your work in 3' of water under Tow Boat. Thanks for explaining your technical applications.
Hey Barry! You already kinda nailed the reason...depth. I don't want to be in shallow water and running the engines that hard as they'll suck up a lot of sand and kill the water pump and possibly clog water channels, so I let out what seems a lot of line so I can get to deeper water
The longer rope lets you the tow boat get into deeper water so you dont foul the engines. As you rev the engines the transom will drop into the water a little. Also you can zig zag the stuck boat if needed. And you dont want to be too close to the towed boat in case something bad happens. When you do unstick the boat it will lurge towards you. Better to keep some distance.
There’s also more stretch in a longer rope which lessens the chance of breaking. Finally I’ve seen boats being towed on a short line crash into the tow boat when released (saw this two weeks ago with a yacht).
See this all the time on Peanut Island, Palm Beach, FLO 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 Gr8 Tow Boat Capt!!!
Great boathandling skipper! Well done!
Thanks Phil!
Nice work captain!
Thanks Ken!
Wow! Great job.
Thanks Ronald!
Already paying for the service and still gives an extra $100. Nice guy.
Hell yeah! Those are the customers we like! 😁
What a great rescue!!!!
Great job, Capt Ken, may I suggest a pole anchor thingy for shallow water🤣 ur very skilled at recovery Ken. 👍🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟did the other boat have more power as well? U think those blokes would have got off the boat and pushed but no. Gorgeous dog
Thanks Sea Wench! Are you talking about a power pole?
The old boat actually had about 350 less horses...but that's not what matters. It's how much of that power it delivers to the water, and it did a much better job with that
Question. The majority of boats you pull off sand bars did the people miss the channel or did they partly beach them to walk on the sand bar and as the tide went out they became beached? Up here in Cape Cod we run our boats up to the sand bars, but we also know don't go to far onto them with the boat unless you want to become beached. We also know from experience what the difference in the color of the water means and channel markers.....ahhh its shallow over there, boater beware. But if you say they ran up on a sandbar during mid to high tide its like....wth?
The answer to your questions is..... Yes 😂
The ones where the sand is above the water is usually purposely beached and the tide just went out and the ones where there's still some water under the boat is usually unintentional beaching. We don't get the tidal changes like you do in the northeast with our usual tides being around 2ft high high to low low and the intermediate around 1ft
Oh and yes, we get plenty of boaters who beach at high tide at the sandbar and leave the boat to go party as the tide drops 2ft by time they get back
@@CaptKenO Thanks for the feed back and yes I forgot about the difference in tidal changes....Yap they'd get a big surprise here when the tide goes out ....by 8'-0" pl;us...lol
when you tie a bowline that will be under strain instead of sticking the single end through the hole make a loop and stick it through. Just as secure and easier to untie.
With how much force is put into this line, if we're not able to break it loose the normal way, we're not going to be able to pull that little "loop" back through either
great work. may i suggest using a hessian bag on the middle of the rope.because if that rope snapped he could kill someone. using a bag the rope tangles up in it stopping it from moving so quickly
That line isn't ever going to break since it's working load is much higher than the force we can generate with these boats...plus, if it did happen to break, it's designed to not snap back and just fall in the water
You can use short rope some times and use your prop wash will help the stuck boat rise up out the sand quicker
If you can get close enough yes. I couldn't here
Every boater should know how to do knots and how to untangle them quickly
Great work..
Thanks Richard!
Nice people, nice save. You can’t buy experience!
Thanks sirdirtydog! You sure can't just buy experience
with a short tow line the prop wash could help displacing sand around boat making it an easier tow
It's also a great way to ruin your props and engines
Awesome job bro 👏 👌 🙌 💪 👍 😎
Thanks ck!
big fan. great watch
Thanks Sheerkon!
I have one of those Shamrocks, but not a diesel. Still, it's a beast of a boat.
What size shamrock do you have?
We ran the 20ft down in Englewood with a chevy 350
Question: did this boat have a bow thruster? And, is this maneuver pulling from the front across the sandbar good for bow thrusters? Thanks
I don't think it did and no it shouldn't damage it if it did
The part that you are tying onto. Where does this connect to your boat and what makes it strong enough to torque on it like this. Its impressive!
It's welded to a 1/2in steel plate on the deck which in turn is bolted into the deck and the stringers (frame) of the boat. Basically, if the tow post is ripped out of the boat...my boat is probably in two halves 😬
I was watching your video, you start pulling or towing, towards the sides then the boat is already stranded, it has more drag on the sand, it wouldn't be easier to align the pro boat with its pulp.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here
That’s a hell of a current there. Van you explain why you did not pull in that direction?
Turning the boat against the current would help the current move the sand from underneath the boat
what is the working load/breaking strength of the line you use? Nice work.
~39,000 lbs working load
So...what's an operation like that cost the customer?
In this instance $0 because he had a membership. If he didn't have a membership, it would've probably been around $1200. A top tier membership only cost $200/year. Definitely worth buying if you have a boat
Seems like a gigantic "no brainer" to me....
@@briankillian5248 One would think so... But the number of people who don't have towing insurance might convince you otherwise 😑
Add a dowel to the knot and then you can easily pull the dowel later and the knot comes undone easily. (logger trick)
I've always wondered just how strong those strap points on the fronts of boats are. I know they're intended as winch points as well, but it always seemed sketchy to me putting any significant kind of load on those two small bolts that hold the D ring there (have had a few times where I've towed some peeps back to a dock because of they had engine issues).
I'm not worried about those breaking. It's the thickest part of the boat and there's usually a backing plate as well
How many pounds of force do you estimate is being applied on line?
Not a damn clue...but somewhere less than the 39k working load of the towline 😂
Now I've heard some people say that force is somewhere around 40lbs/hp...so assuming I'm getting 2/3 of the rated hp out of these 300s, that would put the total force somewhere around 16k lbs. Now that seems quite high to me, so I don't think that is accurate
@@CaptKenO I ask because I was thinking of the soft shackles used in vehicle towing. When boaters can't tie a bowline knot, hand them a soft shackle and a tied bowline. I think most anyone could use a soft shackle. Try a test. I think the shackles I have are rated at 48,000.
I've used soft shackles in odd situations when a chain wouldn't reach, etc. Cheers
badass job you have!
It can be at times. But it's not always sunshine and rainbows
Kinda surprised they didn’t know how to tie such an easy knot. Silly question, but what’s the average number of service calls annually out of one marina like that? Nice job getting them out!
Thanks Kevin! I would guess that between myself and the other captain who runs this boat with me, we probably did around 500 jobs last year. I know between this boat and the other boat we have up on the Manatee river we did a little over 1000 last year
How long until the tide would have lifted them?
I don't remember exactly... But I think it was going to be about 6hrs
Why no run up ? Id assume with a kinetic rope that would work for boats too. But i have no clue so just wondering what the boating opinion on that is.
I don't think a kinetic rope would work since they don't float.
Getting a running start without a kinetic rope is how you break things or sink boats
@CaptKenO hm okay could be a problem. Yeah obviously a running start with a normal rope would to nothing good haha
Ever thought of a soft shackle?
I have. Wouldn't do me much good though since I have to tie a loop in the end of my line anyway...plus, for something like this, it works great when your on the sandbar, but I wouldn't be able to reach it after I get the boat free
@@CaptKenO I should have added to splice a loop into your tow rope.
Like I said, it only works when you can access the point you tied it to from the boat, which we sometimes can't and often can't safely
very cool
Thanks Steve!
the dog was the smartest one on that boat.
Captain, you got off the boat with the gear engaged and no one onboard?
Yes. It keeps the boat on the sandbar and from drifting away from me
Is that Caxambas pass? Captain Mike rolled his boat doing the same maneuver at Caxambas
No. This is big pass in Sarasota. I've never heard of caxambas
@@CaptKenO its down at Marco Island. I used to work for Boat US down there. Mike was pulling a vessel off the sandbar ad his port side gunnel went under rolling his boat.
great job
Thanks marti!
I wasn’t there. HOWERVER, pulling him off that shole from the stern seems prudent.
You really wanted me to pull from the stern didn't you? 😂
@@CaptKenO Well done Capt, but wouldn't the boat come off the bar easier by pulling from the Stern??
Why wasn't the tow test carried out backwards?
Stepped hull, stern was duh in, and cleats suck
Yesssss!👍🏾💪🏾💪🏾
No experience with this kinda thing. Why do you tow from the bow vs pulling the stranded vessel astern?
That's the strongest point on the boat, plus then we can spin it around and get some momentum going. On this particular job, the back of the boat was digging into the sand, so it wouldn't have just slid backwards
@@CaptKenO Thanks!
Hard to beat the torque of a diesel with a big wheel.
Yep. That is the one main thing I miss about the old boat
It's hilarious how many male know-it-alls there are in you tube comments who have no clue only unjustified ego, while this you tuber is actually getting the jobs done. Capt Ken your skills are only exceeded by your patience with armchair "experts" who love to fail at schooling you. 😂 New subscriber with a very old Shamrock. I'm psyched to learn from you.
Hahaha! Thanks Julie! 😂
It's one of the many joys of posting any type of content on the internet 😫
Hopefully they Raised their motors before being pulled!
Yes. I always make sure they do
how much did you charge them ?
$0 because they had a membership. If they didn't, it probably would've been around $1600
Tough job singled handed.
What would a deckhand do?
how much money must the owner of the boat pay for a operation like this ?
In this instance $0 because he had a membership. If he didn't have a membership, it would've probably been around $1200. A top tier membership only cost $200/year. Definitely worth buying if you have a boat
@@CaptKenO ok i am from Norway so i am member in the norwegian rescue service it is like ise
uff good Job 💪
Thanks mate!
Cap if that line snaps it is literally going to go right through you. Consider putting up a barrier of some kind just behind the back rest that would protect you from a 400mph 1" thick bullwhip.
Thank you for your concern Dave, but I'm not worried. First, that line will never break. It's working load is far above what we're able to generate with these boats. Second, let's just say something else broke, that line is designed to have very little snap back, so it would fall in the water long before it reached me
Let's test it
How come you didnt attach brudke to stern and pull her nack into deep water???
I usually try and avoid pulling from the stern for 2 reasons. The first is because a lot of cleats are just screwed into the fiberglass or bolted, but without any backing plates and could rip out pretty easily. The second is if you pull from the stern it could dig into the sand and prevent you from pulling it free
That current was hauling tail
How do you guys prop your boats? Same as usual- using the WOT RPM range? Or do you go for more blade area and lower pitch because the primary purpose of the boat is to pull shit off other shit?
Lol 😂
Good question!
I know the prokat is propped WOT and the worldcat is propped for towing (I don't know what prop is on either of them). The whaler I assume is propped WOT as well since that was a converted pleasure boat and I don't think it got re-propped.
There's benefits to both. The worldcat pulls hard but is so god damn slow...and the prokat pulls pretty hard, but could do better...but is faster and more efficient
@@CaptKenO Hey, appreciate the reply, bud! I can see the benefits of going both ways, so I was curious which brought more money home.
I'm about to watch the Princess vid, and a question occurred to me- where's the liability for damage during recovery fall? I don't know how strong the running gear is on the big stuff, but I'd think that if you had to really reef on something that big, a prop , rudder or strut might get bent?
A short course in rope tying and knots is the FIRST thing to know when becoming a boater. The second thing to know is screwing that drain plug back in before you put the boat in the water. I could go on but I think you newbys get the idea. Simply take a Coast Guard course in boating before you "mount your steed" and become a nuisance to everyone else. CHARGE !!!!!
Unfortunately, a hands on course isn't mandatory in most states, but at least a lot of them now require anyone born after 1988 to pass a safe boating course. Not great, but at least a step in the right direction
That was a 4-H knot for horses back in the 60's.... it's a good know to know. I almost use it daily.
Why didn't they take most of the people off the stuck boat while pulling it off?
On a boat this size, it wouldn't have made much difference. Plus, once it gets moving, I want to keep it moving, and I don't want people to have to swim out to their boat
Never, ever, ever get off your boat. Give then the line with a shackle and make sure they don't lose the pin. Seatow standing by.
We're not required to get off our boats, but I'll do what I need to do to do my job successfully and with high customer satisfaction
@CaptKenO Your safety first capt. Tell them to come to you and to wear a life vest. Just a tip from someone that has been through hell and back. 🤙
@@Edelliriano71 You'll notice throughout my videos that I only get off the boat when I can safely beach it. Crappy conditions, nah. They can come to me or wait until a higher tide
Great video, thanks
Thanks Michael!
That current was way faster than an Olympic swimmer.
Why dont you get closer and use the prop wash to clear the sand from under boat? Thats the way we do it at the lake. But boats arent that big around here....
It's too shallow close to his boat. I don't want to be running my props though the sand and sucking all that into my engines
What do you charge for a job like that?
For this...nothing because they had a membership
After that embarrassment, he just might learn to tie one.
Outboards are built for soeed, but lack torque because the propeller diameter is smaller. The greater the diameter the greater the thrust.
Not exactly true. For the most part, yes. A larger prop will provide more "bite" than a small prop, but it's the combination of size and pitch that matter. As for thrust, you can either move a large amount of water slowly (big prop slow rpm) or a small amount quickly (small prop high rpm).
If you got a three strand why not just splice a permanent eye? Save you the hassle of tying and untying a bowline.
Because most of the line we have is braided...but either way, a permanent eye is useless in 90% of the tows we do since it doesn't fit through a trailer eye and we'd have to tie a bowline anyway if we're using a bridle
@CaptKenO you can splice a permanent bridle using three strand. Just don't use polypropylene. Use nylon. I have seen what a two inch polypropylene does when it breaks. Knocked all the windows out of the wheelhouse. That's what happens when the capn says tie off to the bow during February in 17 foot seas 150 miles offshore.
Ever tried using those yank-um ropes that farmers use?
I haven't actually used one, but I've been them used and have thought about it before. However, I don't think it would work too great since they don't float, so all the kinetic energy would be wasted pulling it back up through the water
@@CaptKenO haha, didn't think I get a reply but thanks. Perhaps it would get tight above the water under tension, then load itself up with the energy to work.. Dunno. Your probably right. Perhaps an opportunity in the market yankum to make a floating rope. You wouldnt want to have to tie buoys to it. I think the principal would work well dragging a boat off a sand bar. Cheers anyway. 🇬🇧🍺
@grahamambridge2856 hahaha 😂
I try and respond to most of the comments on my videos especially ones that are genuine questions 😁
I also have no idea how well the ropes would last in the salt water 🤷
Hm and waiting until the tide rises is not an option?
It's always an option...but that doesn't mean it's the preferred option or will help
The reasons I don't have a boat is because I know virtually nothing about proper boatmanship.
That's both a good and bad reason...you've gotta learn somehow but it's also important to learn and not just treat it like driving a car
Rule#1....dont leave your boat in gear and get off...lololol....he got lucky.
It's called knowing what you're doing
Well, the tide goes out and then it comes back in, several times a day.
But why wait?
Considering how much that dinghy costs you would think he could have put a depth meter on board.
I find that tying a bowline with a bight is easier to loosen
I'm not sure what you're talking about...A bowline is a bowline...
@@CaptKenO the bow knot that you tie your shoes is a square knot with a double bight. Tying a knot mid-line is done by pulling loops instead of the bittter end. If you tie the bowline by doubling the entire line then you have a sling to lift a person, one loop for butt and one for back. Our boy scout scoutmaster was a lineman. He demanded unwavering confidence with many knots. That was “knotl forgotten, 65 years ago. Oh,and most people use tie a granny knot instead of a true square knot, which why they come untied.
I'm still not understanding your first statement about tying a bowline with a bight
Form the loop in the line between the boats then the “rabbit” (loop) comes out of his hole, runs around the tree then back into his hole. Notice how much it resembles a sheetbend, with the bight end representing the bitter end of the sheetbend.
@colesmith2541 that sounds like a normal bowline...
Why not wait for high tide?
Why wait another 6hrs or whatever it was in this video when they could call me and have me free them?