Last Hours of the Titanic - Titanic: A Dead Reckoning - Documentary
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- Опубліковано 8 тра 2024
- Dive into the haunting saga of Titanic's tragic night. Discover startling revelations and Captain Smith's desperate battle against fate. A must-watch for history buffs!
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Uncover the chilling mysteries of Titanic: A Dead Reckoning. Was the sinking of the RMS Titanic not only a tragic maritime disaster but also a scene of crime? This series reopens the century-old case, focusing on the SS Mount Temple, which turned away despite the Titanic's distress signals. Join experts wielding the latest investigative tools as they analyze newly found clues and re-examine historical evidence, casting new light on this iconic tragedy. Each episode promises revelations that challenge what we know about the Titanic's fateful night.
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Less then 2 minutes into this and I get a ad for cruise holidays, talk about a twisted joke
A quite interesting story I've heard about Ismay is that around the time "A Night to Remember" was released in November 1955 Walter Lord got a letter from England about the "remarkable finish" at the 1913 Derby in Epsom Downs. Craganour, the favourite, crossed the line first and was escorted to the winners' circle. Then, without a protest from anyone, it was placed second to Aboyeur. Craganour, Lord's correspondent said, was owned by Bruce Ismay, and I guess it doesn't need saying that after what happened the year before the establishment would never let an Ismay-owned horse win the hallowed Derby. Walter Lord then went to check the story. Everything turned out to be accurate except for one important detail. Joseph Bruce Ismay didn't own Craganour. His brother, Charles Bower Ismay, did. Still, Craganour remained second to Aboyeur. The reason? Craganour's original jockey had been replaced by an American one, Johnny Reiff. I don't know why that was but the move was immensely unpopular, and the discussions the judges are (apparently) supposed to conduct at the end of the race presented them with a golden opportunity to discredit Reiff. So all this was never about Bruce Ismay or the Titanic but rather about the unpopular rider; Walter Lord, though, said he still got letters afterwards still linking Bruce Ismay and Craganour together
0:30 One New England newspaper said "Ismay survived to tell the courts how 1,500 people under his care and on his ship perished while he escaped"
Considering so many overly rich women refused to believe the Olympic (not really the Titanic)would sink so wouldn't go on the early lifeboats, leaving them only half full, it wasn't at all cowardly for any number of men to fill the empty spaces.
In this day and age it would likely be children with one of their parents first, then every man and woman for themselves.....and why not?
What was unforgivable was that poor steerage passengers were locked in and left to die in the freezing Atlantic Sea, or drown in it.
Just a minor point: The distress call was received by Olympic, Frankfurt, Mount Temple, Carpathia, Masaba, Baltic, Virginian, Burma, but it wasn't received by the Californian. Her wireless operator was asleep at the time.
3:54 The soundtrack composer of that film, "A Night to Remember", was alive for only ten more days after Robert Ballard's expedition found the Titanic's wreck. His name was William Alwyn, and he died on September 11 1985 .
8:08 It was an "extraordinary night" not only for Lord but also for Lightoller. I still can't believe the answer Lightoller gave to question 14197 at the British inquiry
Can you suggest at all how it can have come about that this iceberg should not have been seen at a greater distance?
- It is very difficult indeed to come to any conclusion. Of course, we know now the extraordinary combination of circumstances that existed at that time which you would not meet again once in 100 years; that they should all have existed just on that particular night shows, of course, that everything was against us.
That's not a ship's officer, that's a teen. The court wasn't impressed either and the message seemed to be, as Walter Lord put it so well, that the accident was of the one-in-a-million variety. I think it was of the "preventable variety."
I completely believe it was that it was swapped for the Titanic because the Olympic was damaged and there was no claim on insurance for it. Reportedly, a few men worked over the weekend to change the portholes and put on a nameplate over the word "Olympic". Indeed, at that time the name of the ship was always painted directly on to the sides. There might still be a video which was made of the wreck of the so called Titanic with the nameplate broken with one half fallen away and showing some of the name Olympic beneath.
Look up the maritime accidents of the Captain. Why would they have put him in charge of the true Titanic? An alcoholic who had already damaged the Olympic and more. It seems it was his fault the Olympic and the ship it crashed into was previously damaged to the point of disrepair to meet sea worthy standards of the time.
I read that a lot of the workers on board disembarked before it finally sailed for the US. They realised it was the Olympic. A call went out for replacement workers and the company lied they were striking for greedily wanting more pay. Unfortunately, many of those who took the jobs were foreign and didn't understand English enough when the original workers tried to warn them, and those who did understand English were told it was a lie to stop them taking the jobs.
As for the deaths of those who were going to vote against the Federal Reserve, it was probably not intended they would actually die. Remember there was another ship close enough to reach them in time, but its Captain ignored the distress call because they were working for rival companies. The excuse was that the Captain of the nearby ship thought it was a ruse to divert them and ensure the "Titanic" reached the US first.
Also there were enough lifeboats for the first class passengers, especially as the steerage passengers had been locked below!
Many of the early boats were barely half full. It was pig headedness not to allow men or steerage passengers on the early boats with so much room to spare.
Reportedly, a lot of the first class passengers wouldn't believe the "unsinkable" so called Titanic could sink until the situation was obvious, and that was why they wouldn't get in the boats at first.
In addition, I read that it wasn't intended it would hit an iceberg. There was something planned to be done quite further along and a unexpected ship was seen simply not moving. Waiting to pick up at least first class passengers?
Some accounts of survivors have said about hearing the "Titanic" hitting the iceberg. Others said they didn't hear it and didn't think it actually did hit it. Who knows what really happened?
The bulk heads didn't go to the top as they are supposed to, so when not only one or two compartments were flooded with the water spilling over the top of the bulkheads, five of them became flooded. Probably cost cutting to not using so much metal to ensure water wouldn't spill over the top of one bulkhead to another. Not planned nor foreseen, as it was probably the same on a lot of the ships at the time.
That the shareholders would die was probably not the intention. The delay would have been enough to ensure they weren't present for the vote. More likely it was a matter of not caring too much of they did die but it wasn't the explicit intention. Of course whether others died didn't matter to those who planned it.
When the overly rich and far too powerful do a thing, especially a big thing, it is usually for more than one reason.
Remember though that the shareholders who were going to vote against the Rothschild plans, weren't necessarily going to vote against because they had the public interest at heart. They might have had other reasons, such as the Rothschilds gaining far more power than they themselves would have. Perhaps they wanted a better deal for themselves. I doubt we will ever know their reasons but they were unlikely to have been very conscientious about the average Jo and Joanna Blogs.
My 1920 father heard it was the Olympic when he was young. Of course his parents, my grandparents, were old enough to remember it when it happened, and word got around those days even without it being in the papers, and people not having TV's, radios or the Internet. From the way my father spoke, it seemed it was quite common knowledge but of course never officially admitted to.
Reportedly, a number of very rich and powerful people mysteriously cancelled their tickets shortly prior to the sailing. The word was that they had received a warning to not go on.
Didn't we hear a number of ()ewich people were telephoned on the morning and told to not go to work at the Twin Towers? Probably not all ()ewich people, not the poor and 'inconsequential'.
Btw, it was Captain John Smith.
Well let's see the boat had limited life rafts, and it was known by crew and owners that there wasn't enough for anyone more than the upper classes aboard ship. They assumed the poorer classes didn't have anything to live for so they locked all the gates. so did they deliberately leave the poor to die so the rich could go on being rich. Yes, yes they did and the proof is in the statistics of survivors and the percentage that lived from each class aboard ship. What was it 70-80 % of the first class survived yet less than 10% of stowage class.
They were not concerned about safety, all they can think about was money.
It was blatantly lied about until relatively recently, when filming of the wreckage showed the stearage gates to be still locked underwater.
@@angr3819 There were no gates between classes below deck!!!
There were no locked gates keeping passengers in. The reason steerage passengers suffered so many losses is because they were a long way from the boat deck, many didn't speak English and they had no idea where to go. Your figures are wrong, approx 60% of first class survived and 25% of steerage.
@@Dizzy19.There were actually gates present separating third, first class and second class. But yes you are right third class were one confused bunch that night 3rd class mostly contained immigrants wanting to start new lives in America. They came for different countries and spoke diverse languages. This led to third class not understanding the serious situation above. Those who knew about the sinking ship couldn't get out due to the maze like corridors and got lost there. The crew did not show partiality that night, they did according to the orders they were the heroes that night.
2:29 The world and that "time of wealth confidence and new beginnings" were to be stirred to their foundations
Lack of lifeboats+really really cold water= popsicles
As all accidents it was several reasons it sank, no Binoculars for the lookout, speeding, fire in the boiler room, poor rivets, not enough life boats etc etc
When the Titanic sent her distress call the Olympic was about 505 miles away, the Mount Temple was roughly 60 miles away, the Burma, 55 miles, the Virginia, 170mi N, and the Frankfurt was between 120 and 150 nautical miles away. And the Carpathia herself was a whole 58 miles from the scene. This shows that there weren't "always other ships that close by on the busy North Atlantic run" to help if anything happened, as was often stated
I like the old movie footage at 27:07 when people who have managed to get into a lifeboat decide to jump into the sea anyway.
YES the captain of the titanic is to be blamed if you have to blame captains, but the other ship captain could have helped.
this is the first time i'm hearing about the temple mount ship
SS Mount temple was so far away that they would have arrived hours after Titanic would've perished. Other ships like frankfurt, Baltic, Ypiranga and even her own sister ship Olympic were also contacted but sadly they too were too far away
No doubt the Californian could've helped Cpt Lord should've made changed like Rostron did. As Robert Ballard said one time, considering how dangerous travel can be on the North Atlantic, "I would always hope that the other mariner out there would stretch a little to save my life."
And to think that it took less than 10s for that iceberg to doom the ship....
One New England paper talked about "manslaughter" at sea "on an unprecedented scale"
2:48 Exactly because she was #2 of the superliner trio the Titanic never got as much publicity as the Olympic; by the time she sailed it was all old news
9:02 I hear from Wikipedia that as soon as the Californian saw that ship coming up from the east-southeast Cpt Lord asked Evans if he knew of any ships in the area. Evans said "Only the Titanic" So then it's not like the Californian didn't know until dawn that the Titanic was around (as is still often heard); at least Lord and Evans knew exactly what that ship was, all along
0:58 That Californian could've really come to the rescue too. Just like Rostron Capt Lord could've made changes and accommodations for the survivors. It would've earned him and his crew big-time recognition, just like the Carpathia. Also, things would've been faster with two rescue ships at the scene
Some things to consider... it would have been fairly dangerous for another ship to navigate safely in the dead of night in an icefield. Even if they got to the ship before it sank, it would have been very hard to transport that many people from one ship to another, either by lifeboats or picking them out of the cold sea before they perished. I don't think there was enough time, even if the ship was beside it when it hit the berg, to get everyone to safety in time. At least some lives would have been lost, possibly less than the number who did die, but I doubt everyone on board could have been saved. It just would have been too difficult to orchestrate a full evacuation, particularly after it was obvious the ship was sinking and panic set in. The sad truth is, even if a ship could have attempted to help in time, it was really Captain Smith's fault the ship sank and so many lives were lost.
@@graphiquejack Well there seems to be different schools of thought about this whole Californian affair The Carpathia made it through the icefield still at night with a vastly increased number of lookouts and successfully rescued as many as she could. And the Californian was way closer (three times closer if we believe Cpt Lord when he said 19mi; Robert Ballard determined she was only 10 mi away - at the most)
32:07 There you are Ismay, there's your dream gone
To bad Cpt. Lord never got to vindicated during his life.
Well he was told about the rockets and he was much close than the Carpathia yet he didn't go help
Jack Phillips celebrated his 25th birthday on the Titanic, on April 11th
6:07 First Officer Murdoch, Capt Smith, and Thomas Andrews may in the end have actually chosen to go down with the ship rather than potentially get faced with hefty, unpleasant grilling at court (and probably jail time too, on top of that). The reasons are very cogent: Murdoch issued the very orders that failed to save the ship; Capt Smith and Thomas Andrews knew exactly that the Titanic had far from enough lifeboats
Word my 1920 born father heard was that alcoholic Smith had gone to bed in a drunken stupor.
My father's parents were old enough to remember the information that wouldn't have been put in the newspapers, and would never be officially said or written.
@@angr3819 Captain Smith was teetotal.
@@Dizzy19. That's what I hear eh
19:57 The crew were afraid the lifeboats would buckle and break if they filled them right up. And in turn it was a fault of duty on part of Cpt Smith to allow lifeboats to leave less than full
12:04 Rather, the impact brought Cpt Smith back to the bridge; only ~2.5hrs earlier he had a talk about the approaching ice with Lightoller who was then still on duty on the bridge
4:21 She may've been performing well but apparently not quite to Cpt Smith's satisfaction. On her way to Cherbourg and Cobh (Queenstown at the time) Cpt Smith ordered a few lazy S turns to test the ship around (adjust the compasses among other things). You don't do that during a voyage with people on board Capt you do that during sea trials; that's what sea trials are for. That's not the approach of an experienced sea captain that's the approach of a teen. So once again Capt Smith how much did you really know about the vessel under your feet??
Here's why the Titanic's story will never die: (1) she was the largest movable man-made object of her day, (2) she excelled in luxury appointments, (3) it was her maiden voyage (of all voyages), (4) there were many celebrities of the day on board, (5) there was already a lot of talk about all her features before she was ever launched (including the whole "unsinkability" talk), and (6) the Titanic is considered the first ship in living memory to be sunk by an iceberg. The Titanic shall always be in our minds despite herself; unlike the ship itself, the story remains unsinkable
Not to mention the slow even flooding rather than most ships that flood quickly and capsize, and sitting on the sea floor upright. It all adds up to the magic and mystery of the titanic
33:31 And once he heard the news Cpt Haddock of the Olympic ordered all music stopped out of respect for the victims
some bad combovers and hairpieces also a tradgedy
4:02 Isn't that actually the Lusitania
yeah who ever gathered the stock footage did a really poor job.
most shots are from RMS Olympic in the 1920s lol
@@richardhellawell4596 Because the Titanic didn't at all last long enough
Conspiracy theories everywhere.
The ship was doomed from the beginning
If I was in a lifeboat I'd have made sure to steer towards the stationary ship.....if it wouldn't come to us we'd have to go to them. Then at least they could have sent the alarm up and got that ship to go and help the Titanic's passengers.
Very possibly they couldn't see the other ship. It was reportedly near but not within sight.
i always thought that the mistery ship was not the Californian i feel so much pain for captain lord i think he die that night too, i know what happend was very sad and no one can say for sure what really happend that night because we was not there but so many things played a part of the titanic sinking to blame one person is so wrong, i believe even if they had more life boats i don;t think they would of had time to lower them away the best thing they could of done was to make sure all the seat in the lifeboats were filled even if it meant putting men in to the boats
It was Captain John Smith.
@@angr3819 what was, i hope you are not blaming him
12:01 And yet that berg wasn't very big; it was only about as high as the boat deck
You ever hear the saying...the tip of the iceberg.
@@richardcray2919 Regardless of how much of an iceberg is underneath the one that doomed the Titanic wasn't really that big
@@fmyoung Ninety percent of an iceberg is below the waterline.
@@richardcray2919 Yes I knew it was a lot
@@richardcray2919 Okay, yea I knew it was a lot
It was freezing.
1912 must of been year 1 on the sharks calendar
12:04 What else would that be
12:04 "What was that"? What do you think? What else is out there
You mean the OLYMPIC.
Whatever you do, do not watch Mysteries of the Grave: Titanic, that has got to be the worst Titanic ‘documentary’ ever. If you want to watch, don’t take what it presents as fact
They could not swim for that long...
Video in total : *water*
The Olymp.., sorry, the Titanic shall never be forgotten. As well as Captain Stanley "Patsy" Lord.
Captain Smith who had caused various crashes at sea, including the Olympic, which led to it being swapped for the insurance job.
I bet both of you believe that the earth is flat
Cpt Lord was the cautious captain of a ship with an uninspired watch
Oh no! not another Know-it-all theory of what happened to the Titanic. Don't waste nearly 50 minutes of your time wondering what happened, I can sum it up in a single sentence of two words as to what happened...It sank.
Background music should stay in the background. Music often drowned out the dialogue.
We get told many things/ blame re the Loss of Life, BUT it was all the fault of Titanic speeding thro Ice. FACT.
who ever gathered the stock footage did a really poor job.
I completely believe it was that it was swapped for the Titanic because the Olympic was damaged and there was no claim on insurance for it. Reportedly, a few men worked over the weekend to change the portholes and put on a nameplate over the word "Olympic". Indeed, at that time the name of the ship was always painted directly on to the sides. There might still be a video which was made of the wreck of the so called Titanic with the nameplate broken with one half fallen away and showing some of the name Olympic beneath.
Look up the maritime accidents of the Captain. Why would they have put him in charge of the true Titanic? An alcoholic who had already damaged the Olympic and more. It seems it was his fault the Olympic and the ship it crashed into was previously damaged to the point of disrepair to meet sea worthy standards of the time.
I read that a lot of the workers on board disembarked before it finally sailed for the US. They realised it was the Olympic. A call went out for replacement workers and the company lied they were striking for greedily wanting more pay. Unfortunately, many of those who took the jobs were foreign and didn't understand English enough when the original workers tried to warn them, and those who did understand English were told it was a lie to stop them taking the jobs.
As for the deaths of those who were going to vote against the Federal Reserve, it was probably not intended they would actually die. Remember there was another ship close enough to reach them in time, but its Captain ignored the distress call because they were working for rival companies. The excuse was that the Captain of the nearby ship thought it was a ruse to divert them and ensure the "Titanic" reached the US first.
Also there were enough lifeboats for the first class passengers, especially as the steerage passengers had been locked below!
Many of the early boats were barely half full. It was pig headedness not to allow men or steerage passengers on the early boats with so much room to spare.
Reportedly, a lot of the first class passengers wouldn't believe the "unsinkable" so called Titanic could sink until the situation was obvious, and that was why they wouldn't get in the boats at first.
In addition, I read that it wasn't intended it would hit an iceberg. There was something planned to be done quite further along and a unexpected ship was seen simply not moving. Waiting to pick up at least first class passengers?
Some accounts of survivors have said about hearing the "Titanic" hitting the iceberg. Others said they didn't hear it and didn't think it actually did hit it. Who knows what really happened?
The bulk heads didn't go to the top as they are supposed to, so when not only one or two compartments were flooded with the water spilling over the top of the bulkheads, five of them became flooded. Probably cost cutting to not using so much metal to ensure water wouldn't spill over the top of one bulkhead to another. Not planned nor foreseen, as it was probably the same on a lot of the ships at the time.
That the shareholders would die was probably not the intention. The delay would have been enough to ensure they weren't present for the vote. More likely it was a matter of not caring too much of they did die but it wasn't the explicit intention. Of course whether others died didn't matter to those who planned it.
When the overly rich and far too powerful do a thing, especially a big thing, it is usually for more than one reason.
Remember though that the shareholders who were going to vote against the Rothschild plans, weren't necessarily going to vote against because they had the public interest at heart. They might have had other reasons, such as the Rothschilds gaining far more power than they themselves would have. Perhaps they wanted a better deal for themselves. I doubt we will ever know their reasons but they were unlikely to have been very conscientious about the average Jo and Joanna Blogs.
My 1920 father heard it was the Olympic when he was young. Of course his parents, my grandparents, were old enough to remember it when it happened, and word got around those days even without it being in the papers, and people not having TV's, radios or the Internet. From the way my father spoke, it seemed it was quite common knowledge but of course never officially admitted to.
Reportedly, a number of very rich and powerful people mysteriously cancelled their tickets shortly prior to the sailing. The word was that they had received a warning to not go on.
Didn't we hear a number of ()ewich people were telephoned on the morning and told to not go to work at the Twin Towers? Probably not all ()ewich people, not the poor and 'inconsequential'.
None of what you said is remotely true, the switch never happened it was more than debunked for more than 2 decades
Oceanliner designs recently covered this theory and went pretty in-depth exposing so many flaws with it. And he's not the only one, this theory has been debunked for years.
False .
No binoculars, too fast, bad manoeuvre and lack of lifeboats, these people were doomed.
Easy question 2 answer. Sorry but as a captain/engineer.
Terrible navigation. Stupidity. Bow on 2 a berg/rocks is the safest action. Every Captain knows this.... Also rushing, big big mistake