@@techtech2333 My great grandfather survived the wreck. Albert Horswill, look him up on encyclopedia Titanica. He was accused of accepting a bribe from a wealthy couple along with some of his fellow to not return to the wreck to pick up passengers in the water.
I am a travel advisor and I believe we will have a Titanic 2 hitting the waters sometime between 2022 - 2024. A Transatlantic Cruise Ship ladies and gentlemen. There has been some talk about it. If so, that’s going to be so amazing.
It's so fascinating,the disaster was terrible but it's also left something with us,the most incredible story and the greatness of the ship will never be surpassed,she's more than just a ship,there's something very special about it all.
The scariest part of the sinking of the titanic is when the lights go out and the sound of the metal breaking in the pitch darkness of the Atlantic Ocean.
there is no evidence of that actually happening, they just put in the movies to make it look cool. ships are not made of metal, they were made or iron and steel
@@Chaseful Didn’t happen huh? My great grandfather was a crewman who survived the sinking. The sound of that monster breaking apart sending funnels crashing down was a noise so terrifying he said it could not be replicated by anything else. It was a sound that he would hear in his mind for the rest of his life.
Once again, the ARROGANCE of one man cost the lives of others. Stockton Rush was as arrogant as this so called captain if not even MORE, as he laughed or got angry when safety and his reckless regard for others was addressed. It makes me angry to hear his "friends" call him an explorer or brave when in fact he was a narcissistic madman hellbent on cutting corners and firing anybody who dare call him out on his Madness! He's a MURDERER. A DEAD MURDERER but still a MURDERER and no HERO!!!!!!
@KiLDiG Horror Movie Archive its still tragic as it could have been avoided yes people die but when disasters can be prevented its devastating that all those people died to many poor choices. I too love to hear about stories like this but it's still sad knowing lives are lost in so many sinkings and other disasters natural or not.
The problems we are facing today, is coming from that point, WHO Order to Crash the Titanic.? That happen in 1912, months before the Federal Reserve came to America, and who was in the Titanic? The very rich millionaires that oppose the Federal reserves. So connecting the dots, by 1913 the feds stablish themselves in America, is the same people that invented the quantitive banking, base on all compound interest. In 1912, if you borrow $50K, you pay back $50K, but with the compound interest you pay $150K back. So the feds, pay the congress, the judges and put agencies like HUD, the Division of Mortgage Lending, even the Bar Association, all agencies suppose to work for us, but they are there to protect the banks.
Who is watching in 2021? 109 years after the sinking? I am still intrigued by the titanic. Sad sad tragedy and so many innocent lives lost over greed of Whitestar lines.
@@0mally13 My great grandfather was a crewman on the rms titanic. He survived on lifeboat one. His name is Albert Horswill, you can read about him on Encyclopedia Titanica and you can read about the controversy with his lifeboat on wikipedia under the page “Titanic Lifeboat No.1.”
Since I was 6-7 years old and first read about it in a book on my parents bookshelf, I have been absolutely fascinated by the story. I'm 40 now and my youngest girl has been fascinated by it since she was 6 years old, it's a truly timeless, magnetic tale, the size of the ship, the opulence, the fact it was on its maiden journey, the fact it was considered "unsinkable" the speed of the sinking, the hubris in fitting it insufficiently with lifeboats, the depth and temperature of the water it sank in, the Captains terrible decision making etc etc. Its something that, once aware of, it's extremely hard to not be fascinated by.
The real story is worse! The Titanic didn’t even go down! There was a switch before the maiden voyage. The Olympic was sunk . She had been damaged twice. They pulled an insurance scam. Captain Smith was in on the scam . That’s why he ran through the berg field so fast. So Morgan’s plan worked. He killed Astor and robbed America of a just money system ! And got paid for sinking a damaged ship! Win win!!
Yes they didn’t care to put in more safety measures so they could set sail sooner. Some people forget that there were stowaways and a few others aboard without tickets but not stowaways so they were overpacked. They used the wrong metals for the rest of the titanic, they didn’t report the iceberg soon enough, they didn’t stop to replace some metal for special machinery that was melting and overheated because they didn’t want to stop and delay, they didn’t use the right signals when using radio and they didn’t use the right flares to signal for help. Yeah there was so much that went wrong in the making of the Titanic.
There is a list a mile long of little errors all of which could play a part. Even something like Olympics accident causing the delay of Titanics Maiden voyage.... If that hadn't happened she would have sailed when there was less danger of ice! It's as if a lot of special forces put her in that position at that time, in that condition. This is when I believe some things can not be avoided. Sometimes, sadly, major things need to happen to ensure changes for the future!
@@loveywilliams4276 could you clarify please. What machinery was melting and overheated. What should have been the right flares? What safety measures were not put on?
@@loveywilliams4276 Er... What? There may have been stowaways, sure, but when the total occupancy of known occupants puts her only 2/3 full, you'd need a _LOT_ of stowaways to be "overpacked." I'd think someone might notice she was overbooked at that point. The metal is subpar compared to modern metallurgy, but was of standard quality for shipbuilding in 1912. The only people who remarked on it was the Board of trade asking if the ship used any special metals like the Lusitania class did (as this would affect certain stress equations) to which WSL said, "Nope, this is the normal stuff, use the normal calculations" I'm not sure what you mean by "Didn't report the iceberg soon enough." The only instance of anything possibly overheating is a coal fire that warped some metal of a bulkhead. It was unlikely to have caused any significant effect on the ship sinking, as this would have been the bulkhead for compartment 6 They used the Marconi standard of CQD and later on switched to the relatively new SOS for their distress calls. Ships in the area knew exactly what it meant; the problem was distance, not confusion. The Socket Signals launched were regulation signals; Just because the Californian crew didn't bother to double check what was going on didn't mean they were. A lot of the bad decisions that led up to the sinking were mostly on the front of inadequate regulations (that were known to be inadequate for over a decade at this point) and an industrywide cavalier attitude to ice, problems that I should emphasize were _not_ unique to the Titanic or her crew. If the Titanic didn't hit the berg we'd be hearing about how the Mauretania struck an iceberg with massive loss of life instead.
Ironically Titanic is in much better shape than her sister Ship Olympic. Which is nothing but razer blades and who knows what else these days- Scrapped in 1930's while Titanic has a cozy place at the bottom of the ocean.
Honestly I thought I was the only one who just couldn't get the Titanic off my conscience. It's like a magnet that draws me to watch it's doom everytime.
I'm the same. Titanic, Jfk, Marilyn Monroe, 911, UFO disclosures.... its because its all absolutely riddled with controversy and pain, yet who got away with it....
@@caseyoakes4789 everyone said it was an iceberg, the time it sank match when icebergs flowed down from the northern ice caps, WW1 didn’t start for another 2 years, probably not a U-Boat, no war was declared between the UK and Germany, so… why would a German sub sink a liner, also, the torpedo explosion would have left a huge hole in the side of the ship, so why is there none visible on the wreck.
@@caseyoakes4789 I stay on my point, why is there no visible torpedo damage on the Titanic, and what warship, do you have any idea how vague that is, what was its name, was it a destroyer, cruiser, what was it, I know there were other ships in the area but no “warships” to my knowledge, and certainly no U-Boats.
Alexander Carlyle had specialized davits made to accommodate 4 life boats each! 4 x 16 is 64! It was a 14 month long battle to get the intended 64 down to 16! There is a “late 19th century” complacency written all over this story. E J Smith was not a great captain. He wrecked the Olympic, the Coptic, the Baltic and then he ignores warning after warning about a massive 80 mile long, 30 mile wide field of Ice 🧊 directly in his path. April 12th 9:00 am SS Coronia sent out the first message with the critical MSG heading (Master Service Gram intended for the Captain or an officer on the Bridge.) For the lookouts, it would have been painful to stare into 25 mile per hour, 25 degree Fahrenheit wind. Their eyes would have been tearing up nonstop. Without binoculars to block that icy wind, it would have been incredibly hard to peer into a moonless night and see what most people in this community know to be a “Blue Berg” or Black Berg” which is when an Iceberg is in its melting stage and has flipped and gone “turtle” so instead of white glistening edifice shining in the night, you have crystal clear glass like Ice that you can see right through. Then there was the weather. The capper is that from the day the Titanic left Belfast she was on Fire. White Star had to commission coal from other vessels just to make the one way crossing of the Atlantic. So many warnings, included the last one she would get, from Evans on the Californian around 11:00 🕚 pm the night of the sinking. From choosing ordinary steel to choosing 16 lifeboats to ignoring hazardous ice warnings, it would have been a miracle had they not sunk! All souls involved deserve to rest in peace, but this tragedy was so utterly avoidable that it is almost manslaughter. No boats, no one to look after them, no multinational linguistic system, no public address system. How 3rd class passengers were treated was rather bad in critical areas. The Titanic did give birth to the International Ice Patrol so this wouldn’t happen again. It also gave birth to a multibillion dollar industry with the exploiter class at the very top. Of the 1500 innocent men, women and children who lost their lives to the frozen depths, not a cent of movie or book, music and merchandise money ever went to their families. It is these 1,500 people that paid the ultimate price for this “blood money” so now the best thing to do is have the titanic society start to seek out the relatives of these victims so that a wrong being committed for the last 111 years can start to be made right.
There is no one to blame for the disaster. Slag is weaker than iron. However, the slag-rivets was punched into titanic in a wrong way, making the slag even weaker. But you can't blame the one/ones who ordered titanic to be built that way, they didnt know that slag-rivets got weaker by being punched that way. in laboratory, the slag-rivets built in a wrong way failed at about 10 000 oif pressure. However, even iron-rivets built in a right way, couldn't take 14 000 of pressure in the laboratory.
Anyone that believes the official narrrative of what happened is a fool. Look into the history of who was on that boat, what they believed, and why very powerful men would want them out of the way. It's no coincidence that the Federal Reserve was formed the next year in 1913. Do the research and THINK.
@@applemauzel White Star never actually called the ship unsinkable. The news had used the term "unsinkable" and this was taken further in the movie saying that "God could not sink the ship" which was never actually said. This leads to people believing such a thing.
Am I th only one who just can't seem to hv enough of seeing and hearing every lil detail of titanic stories, movies n everything. There is something very wonderful about it.
It's amazing what a perfect Cascade of events had to take place in order for the ship and the iceberg to arrive at the same point at the same time. Like most disasters it's not one single thing that causes the catastrophe, it's a chain of events.
And that is usually the case when a commercial airliner crashes - not one thing only its often a series of things that happen when put together can cause a disaster... usually.
@@generalgrant3189 Give the Antonov AN 2 a chance. In the words of Skyships Eng; "It would take quite an effort to crash one." Someone else has even said that "They are so slow you probably wouldn't get injured even if it did crash" in response to my comment that they are impossible to spin.
Since learning of the disaster in elementary school in the 1960's I have been captivated by the disaster. I've tried to read, view, and take as much information as I can about the tragedy. This documentary is the best I've ever seen on the subject. Thank you for the research and making this vast information available to us in this format.
You’re likely my age, I’m 60. I heard about Titanic as a kid because people would gossip about an old lady that lived in the neighborhood who had survived the sinking of Titanic. I never met her but that would have been mid sixties and I’ve been fascinated ever since.
A splendid example of why we learned in the naval service that there is no such thing as an "accident." There are incidents that have a cause - mechanical, natural, and/or personnel cause incidents. A natural event, mistakes made by personnel, and mechanical/design failures doomed the Titanic. An excellent presentation.
This is why we hey have SOLAS now. Safety of Life At Sea and protocols in case of an incident . Lifeboats must be enough to cover all passengers and crew
@@salt27dogg Shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. There always has to be a disaster before they actually do something, saying anything beforehand does no good. This whole sordid affair however may have brought SOLAS forward.
My friend's grand-father was on the Carpathia when they picked up the surviving Titanic passengers. I would have loved to have spoken to him about that...
@@BassJunky-music She is talking about the Carpathia not the Titanic. Carpathia was going to what is now Rijeka in Croatia when it picked up the Titanic survivors.
It's amazing how I never get tired of Titanic. I can watch the same documentary a hundred times. Read the same article over and over again. Spend countless hours on encyclopedia titanica.
It’s pathetic that they were concerned about Luxury and not equipped with enough safety equipment for the passengers. I heard that 64 boats was needed, but there was only 16 boats.
@@shawnkeith1164No, they launched them all, the lifeboats. They were not filled, though. There were a couple collapsible boats that was launched by Lighrtower, but one turned over. That was the one that Lighttower was on when he rescued the communications guy.
There's been a lot of horrific events in the history of mankind. For me, personally, this is the scariest. As someone who has never been a strong swimmer, and who almost drowned as a kid.....the story of the Titanic scares the hell out of me. I simply can't imagine what all those people were going through in their final hours. But I can't stop watching documentaries and whatever else when made available. 😔
As someone who had swim lesson for 12 years and who became a strong swimmer, I could float and never sink, this event scares me. I can’t imagine what those passengers experienced. I can imagine being pulled under water with no way to get to the surface. Truly horrifying.
IDK how much it helps, but very few people actually drowned. Most of them were stuck in their cabins and the air pressure got to them before the water did. A majority of the people in the water froze or had heart failure from the cold.
What intrigues me so much is just how surreal such a circumstance of the sinking of the Titanic was. And it just feels like a movie, because of how dramatic it is. And also I love historical things that changed how things were done in the future; as this is certainly one of them.
It wasn’t anything particularly extraordinary, the sinking. The actions of the engineers and radiomen, sure, but other than that it was just a sinking ship, without enough lifeboats.
@@ChickenLiver911 Yea but 1,500 people dying in one day? And it was just an “ordinary” sinking of a ship? That’s what makes it crazy. This amount of loss is what makes it something to remember
@@ChickenLiver911 “Historic Travels” on UA-cam explains how even if there was enough life boats it wouldn’t have saved all the passengers and they did start to launch the boats around 12:40 am. They barely released the last two life boats as the ship increased in the sinking
@@ChickenLiver911 wasn't just any old ship though, it was a record breaking technical marvel and a hand crafted artistic masterpiece that got sunk on its maiden voyage. The immense sense of tragedy and the sheer waste of such a beautiful vessel is unparreleled. It's also the truly horrific nature of the majority of passenger deaths straight out of your worst nightmares that make it so dramatic. It wasn't a military vessel going to war or a crew only ship on a risky journey, it was carrying families to new lives on a well travelled path. For it to go from a voyage of hope and joy to such horrific doom is what hooks people in I think. The fact it also had people of every background also makes it a universal tragedy.
Been in those pitch dark Atlantic's. Abandoning a vessel in such waters is just like a worst nightmares come true. Even thinking of it send chills down the spine.
I had similar thoughts about a trans atlantic flight i took in my youth. Imagining being stranded in those waters, in the cold and dark with little to no hope. Terrifies me even today in memory. I cant imagine the sheer horror that night had
There is no one to blame for the disaster. Slag is weaker than iron. However, the slag-rivets was punched into titanic in a wrong way, making the slag even weaker. But you can't blame the one/ones who ordered titanic to be built that way, they didnt know that slag-rivets got weaker by being punched that way. in laboratory, the slag-rivets built in a wrong way failed at about 10 000 oif pressure. However, even iron-rivets built in a right way, couldn't take 14 000 of pressure in the laboratory.
111 years ago, as of this comment, and this still feels like a fresh wound in our hearts and minds. This tragedy touched so many different races and cultures that it was as if the world mourned in unison when the news broke. I still feel the sadness when I watch these documentaries. It's history, but it's a history we actually learned from.
Yes, I also feel that way about the Titanic disaster . It's such a terrifying, sad and enduring story,and I think it's because It was such a freak accident that was somehow destined to happen that affects people the way it does. Another eerie detail to the story is that about 14 years before the Titanic went down a book was written about a ship called the Titan that hit an iceberg in the North Atlantic and sank .
This entire film is the reason why documentaries exist! Amazing content! All things Titanic is just pure brain candy. This documentary is absolutely fascinating.
Agreed I went in watching this as they are going to have actors over act their parts n made up stuff. But then I just finished watching now they did a pretty good documentary on it.
My neighbour in Leeds had a pass for the Titanic she was to work as a hairdresser onboard . She was taken ill at the time and didn’t board the ship .Then in 1977 in her early 80 s both her and her husband still alive showed me the boarding pass and paperwork showing her wages . She said she was so upset at the time not boarding then the news came through of the sinking she started crying still in shock some 60 + years on . We moved across the City in 1977 that was the last time seeing her, Mrs Proctor and Husband
That would have made her a young teenager at the time. So how did she have a husband? Also how was she a hairdresser so young? A hairdresser from the early 20th century earning enough for a ticket on the Titanic, okay 😂. She must have had to be severely ill not to go seen as the trip would have been at least a week so plenty of time for her to get better while sleeping in her cabin. For her to still have the boarding pass is weird, as surely she would have sold her ticket. There were only 112 passengers who didn’t make it on. Most of those were first class passengers (which she wouldn’t be as a hairdresser) and crew (who had gotten drunk in Southampton the night before and didn’t make it to the ship on time. There was one woman called Maude Powell who was meant to be on the ship but couldn’t go due to being ill but it can’t be her as it’s a different sir name. Basically, what I’m trying to say is your story is bollocks!
When I was a kid they always said the titanic saw a closer ship that did not help. Always found that interesting. Now finding out the reason that ship didn't help was because they shut off the telegraph after the titanic operator cussed them out has to be one of the biggest blunders I ever heard from both parties.
The California was blocking the poor boy's signal which was hindering his deadlines to send out messages on time for Titanic spoiled, rich guests who wanted their boastful notice sent out quickly of their early arrival. He was under stress to get this out which shows how the entitled rich can be a pain in the a$$ to work for, since it's all about what they want. Too bad they forgot to mention that in this documentary.
in all likelihood he would have gone to bed either way. the Issue was not Phillips. Ironically most people don't know but Jack Phillips stayed up all night the previews night fixing his wireless set- against instructions from his employers. Had that not been done Titanic would have sent out no signals at all.
Actually the wireless operator on the Californian, Cyrus something, was not at fault. He signed off because it was his normal sleep time, not for being cussed out. Philip on the Titanic definitely screwed up there though.
All this new information makes for such an amazing documentary, like many comments it was a culmination of events that led to the sinking of the Titanic. So very sad and heartbreaking loss of life. I really appreciate how those men dropped the wreaths in the water at the site of the sinking. The sinking of the Titanic never ceases to touch our hearts. I believe it's the loss of life that most likely could have been prevented but was not.
My Grandmother was born same year T was made, and she was 3, when it sailed. I always think of her because just a few years later she came to Ellis Island on a Scandinavian ship called Hellig Olav. There is a photo of it in Ellis Island museum. She said it was rough seas. She lived to be 2 weeks shy of 101.🙏Kram min lilla Mormor❤️
I feel that way about my dear German grossemutti who came to America on the Moltke in 1907 with her husband and their two daughters. Ich liebe dich, Grossemutti. 💘 🙏 🌼
There is no one to blame for the disaster. The Slag-rivets they built into Titanic are a little bit weaker than iron-rivets. However, the slag-rivets were punched into titanic in a wrong way, making the slag even weaker. But you can't blame the one/ones who ordered titanic to be built that way, they didnt know that slag-rivets got weaker by being punched that way. in laboratory, the slag-rivets built in a wrong way failed at about 10 000 of pressure. However, even iron-rivets built in a right way, failed at about 14 000 of pressure.
@@scottwarren4998 There are people to blame. They shouldn't have been going 21 knots. They should've had glasses in the tower. The Californian could've help. And so on.
Didn’t they switch names on two ships Titanic and Olympic ? If this is so then it was the Olympic that was hit by the iceberg that sank !!! SO the Titanic lives on !!!
I still get teary eyed at the end... I'm 51 And I've been obsessed with this ship since my mother turned me on to the story when I was 10. I don't know what it is but it still leaves me Speechless @ 2:20am.😢😢😢
I’m glad milveena was willing to give interviews, it’s amazing to see new age survivor testimony, like she was just a baby and had one of the most intense near death experiences a person could Edit: not to mention her poor mother having to witness all of it, I’m not surprised she wouldn’t even speak about it
There is no one to blame for the disaster. Slag is weaker than iron. However, the slag-rivets was punched into titanic in a wrong way, making the slag even weaker. But you can't blame the one/ones who ordered titanic to be built that way, they didnt know that slag-rivets got weaker by being punched that way. in laboratory, the slag-rivets built in a wrong way failed at about 10 000 oif pressure. However, even iron-rivets built in a right way, couldn't take 14 000 of pressure in the laboratory.
as a INFANT she would not have known anything of the actual sinking or such..all she did know was what she could extract from her mother and ide say that aint much
American Survivor Lilian Asplund who passed away on 6th May 2006 at age 99 was the last titanic survivor with memories of the titanic. Milvina dean was only 10 months old at the time of the sinking and didn't remember the titanic at all. Nonetheless may them both and all the titanic survivors and victims rest in peace they will never be forgotten.
Milveena was aged only 2 months on the Titanic. Ludicrous to believe she had the slightest idea what was going on. No, she was merely recalling what her mother told her for years afterwards. And what she has read and seen over the years. My earliest memories start at the age of about 4.
Titanic tested fate and God, by ignoring warnings and ignoring safety and calling the ship unsinkable I believe the Titanic is the lesson that keeps on teaching. No matter our fascination with the wreck we must remember these were real people who died and it’s a massive gravesite and honestly should be left alone. Over a 100 yrs later and this ship continues to take lives simply because we haven’t learned to let it be
In that sense if what your acclaimed God can do is to sink a ship with many not considering the children on it then he is a foolish God. The sinking was due to happen and the captain all knows what they were doing
I've made an airfix replica of the titanic several years ago & it's got it's pride of place in my display cabinet. I've been to Liverpool maritime museum to see a larger replica of the titanic & the full history behind it. I'll never get tired of hearing about the titanic. May they all rest in peace.
Warped comment. The two don’t follow and in any case no one thought it was literally unsinkable rather it was designed to stay afloat for enough time to ferry the passengers to rescue ships.
Just watched the 25th anniversary of the Titanic movie and now here watching the real story, still can't believe the ship that took more than 2 years to build and thought of as unsinkable only took about 2 hours to sink
@@shawnd567 According to the official narrative. Some will say it was the Olympic that sank, in which case statistically it was its ninth round voyage.
@@aj6954 That’s actually a conspiracy theory, people have looked into it saying that they sunk the Olympic on purpose to get insurance. Is it true? We won’t know for years to come but saying it’s an official narrative isn’t true.
BEST documentary I've seen for giving >all factors< leading to the tragedy-incl. key info about the rivets I'd never heard before. R.I.P. to those lost.
This is an amazing documentary, probably made in 2008. There were about 12 conditons that cause so many people to die. If we could just eliminate one of these 12, many would have lived. 1 More than 16 lifeboats 2 Full height bulkheads, not just the first one. 3 Not making the panic turn but instead just hitting the berg head on. Only the first bulkhead would have flooded because it had the full height bulkhead. 4 Not ignoring the wireless message 5 The 2nd wireless message no officer received 6 The Californian switching off it's wireless because of the rude comment by Titanice operator 7 Changing ship's direction 8 Lack of binoculars on the crow's nest 9 Being a dead calm moonless night making it hard to see bergs 10 A abnormally large iceberg making it so far south. 11 Using No. 3 rivets instead of the stronger No.4 rivets. 12 Not going Full Speed What is the probability of having all 12 of these conditions? It is mind boggling to me to think of all those innocent people who died and what their lives could have meant to our world.
1). She carried more lifeboats than BoT regulations demanded. 2). She was designed to stay afloat with four of sixteen bulkheads compromised. Six were actually compromised. 3). No sea officer at the time would intentionally create a head-on collision. You are being wise after the even. 4). Wireless messages were not ignored. As the testimony of several master mariners at the British Inquiry confirmed, they would have acted exactly as Smith did. 5). What? 6). Californian's operator switched off at his usual time. One operator did not work 24 hours per day. The supposed 'rude comment' actually DDD in morse shorthand, merely meant 'clear the frequency.' Californian's operator, in later testimony, even confirmed that he did not regard the signal as 'rude.' 7). For what reason? Smith had taken the usual precautions (see 4). 8). Irrelevant, and even contradicted by your own 9). Binoculars were used to identify items which had already been spotted. 9). & 10). True. 11). Olympic used exactly the same construction materials, and was a successful liner for almost 25 years. No ship was likely to have survived what happened to Titanic. 12). She didn't. Five boilers were not connected.
The Titanic didn’t sink! It was the Olympic! The captain was in on the scam . JPMorgan did it! So if that ONE thing was different, everyone would have survived.
I am intrigued by a number of things raised in this documentary. Firstly, the cast iron rivets being held as the cause of her sinking “so fast”. Titanic took 2 1/2 hours to sink, and calculations made estimate a hole roughly the size of a house door being of the size needed to introduce water into the ship in a quantity needed to sink the ship in that time. Open portholes and a cargo door would have hastened things as she went down, but that’s how big a hole would be needed. Her sister ship Britannic struck a mine in the Kea Channel in WW1 - her build incorporated a double bottom and watertight bulkheads extending much higher than those on Titanic, but she sank in only 55 minutes. And Cunard liner Lusitania sank much more quickly than that again, after being struck by a single torpedo. Then there’s the lack of binoculars. Could that have made a difference? The ship was travelling at 40 kph into freezing air - whether the lookouts had binoculars or not, it is unlikely they’d be able to prevent eyes from watering or squinting. The berg itself was apparently a “black berg”, a berg that had recently turned over in the water and therefore much darker in colour that icebergs are often pictured. Then there was the mirage effect that existed that night due to the odd weather conditions and abnormally flat calm, making the berg almost impossible to see until it was extremely close. And then there is Murdoch’s bridge order to put the rudder “hard a-starboard” and reverse both engines; had he reversed only the port engine and left the starboard at full forward, the ship might have turned more quickly and missed the berg. Reversing both engines effectively negated the effect of the (admittedly too small for a ship that size) rudder, causing the “slow response” many people have noted. And Californian? The officers on both ships clearly saw each other, although the officers on Californian effectively did nothing. The radio on Californian was of a type powered by clockwork, and once the radio operator finished his shift at midnight and went to bed, the clockwork wound down and efforts to use it by others who did not know to wind it up were fruitless. But even if Stanley Lord had been awakened and realised what was going on, the ship had hove to earlier that day in pack ice. Her boilers were cold. It would have taken over an hour, and likely more, to have restarted her engines with enough steam pressure for her to move, meaning she would have arrived slightly after Carpathia. As it was, Californian reached the scene just as Carpathia was preparing to depart in late morning (pics taken by passengers on Carpathia show this). Titanic was as strong (if not stronger than) many ships afloat today. She remained afloat for 2 1/2 hours after the collision. The huge loss of life was contributed to by the ship’s officers not ensuring all lifeboats were filled before lowering. Many more could have been saved if not for that. And most who died that night died of hypothermia, not drowning; the water was only 2 degrees above freezing, so 15-30 minutes is all anyone could last if unable to get out of the water. Arguments may be made on many things; there are many excellent books on the subject published over many years. Among the best are two by Walter Lord - A Night To Remember and The Night Lives On. His study of the two investigation findings and transcripts, interviews of eye witnesses, and examination of evidence is excellent.
A good try, but you need to be aware that the half-baked conspiracists who infest these sites are not interested in facts or reason. They have simply watched a video or two, have appointed themselves experts, and are impervious to discussion or debate.
I loved what you had to say about this. I’d looked at that too and it was a chain of events that took place, that caused this. Had they had enough life boats for every passenger, they could have saved almost everyone, if not everyone. Those life boats being dropped 1/2 full was awful. 😢
I agree with everything you said except the steering around the berg part. One couldn't be sure of the width of the berg so trying to steer around it to avoid the impact was a bad decision anyway. Had the captain heeded to the earlier warnings and not be heading into the ice full-throttle (though not an uncommon practice during the time in ordinary circumstances, but the situation was not ordinary here) there was a possibility to effectively slow down the ship enough and take the berg head on. There are ships that collided with bergs head on and acquired minimal damages, certainly didn't sink. But the speed was the limiting factor to pull this one off. So now we're only looking at the minimizing the casualties factor, which as you pointed out, boils down to the untrained crew with their pathetic job at lifeboats managing. Re Californian: this nasty ship and its captain can't be forgiven, they saw everything and did nothing. Bastards
It's wrong,the eyewitness has said that the ship sank the next day at 2.30 afternoon,they were told by the crew that they could have breakfast & then take the lifeboats
@@sanaaa7539 Titanic struck the iceberg at just after 11.30 pm, shortly before midnight. She sank at 2.20 am. It took about 2 1/2 hours for her to sink. I’m not sure what ship you’re referring to, but it clearly isn’t RMS Titanic.
Well done! My mom had lunch with Millvina Dean.... pix & autographs. I personally touched a retrieved section of her hull at an Exibition by sneaking past the cameras. I was hooked when reading "A Night To Remember" in 4th grade. I'm in my late 60s now... and obsessed with her more than ever.
The TitanIc isn't the greatest maritime disaster, although over a thousand souls died aboard. It was the MV Wilhelm Gustloff, a German ship used in Operation Hannibal that was the worst. She was overloaded, overcrowded and steaming through a shipping lane with all lights turned off. In the area was a russian submarine, which ended up sinking her. The Gustloff turned her navigation lights on due to the fact another shop was reported coming the opposite way, and they wanted to avoid a collision. When spotted, she was fired at three times, with one torpedo jamming in it's tube causing it to retreat. When the other torpedos hit their mark, power went first, making it pitch black aside from emergency lights, the cold conditions of the Baltic Sea not helping. Her escort vessels dropped down boats, rings and lines to help survivors. One of the vessels, the Lőwe dropped depth charges incase the submarine came near, instead killing more and more survivors. In the end, the death toll reached upwards of 9,000.
You often hear Titanic referred to as the greatest Peacetime disaster perhaps partly because war involves actively trying to bring about deaths and so it has to be looked at differently.
There is no one to blame for the disaster. Slag is weaker than iron. However, the slag-rivets was punched into titanic in a wrong way, making the slag even weaker. But you can't blame the one/ones who ordered titanic to be built that way, they didnt know that slag-rivets got weaker by being punched that way. in laboratory, the slag-rivets built in a wrong way failed at about 10 000 oif pressure. However, even iron-rivets built in a right way, couldn't take 14 000 of pressure in the laboratory.
As someone who has been completely obsessed with all things Titanic and watched way too many documentaries for some reason i always hope the end is different
@@LanceSolo72 Eli says he`s completely obsessed with all things Titanic, you asked him if he has an opinion as to what happened or whether he generally agrees with the official story. I suspect many don`t even know there is an alternative version.
That's how I feel....I wonder if maybe we had family aboard this beautiful ship and maybe that's what it is...but since I was young and knew about her I've been in love with this srory..such a sad tragedy that happened to all them innocent ppl.....
For me it’s because it represent the most clear example of human pride away from God. They thought they could do only with human power and disregard God’s protection. Big fail! That ship was cursed even before it hit water. I can tell you that. God is the Power behind every element that surrounds us. Water, wind, fire, you name it. Hope you have found yourself under His Grace. If not, perhaps this is your moment to reflect on your actions driven by human pride and come to His path. He is waiting for you with open arms. 👍
The mechanic and historic details are indeed fascinating, but they do not excuse the Captain being careless. There’s a reason you have the Captain, to make decisions and adapt. He ignored warnings, did no drill and kept speed high. In short, he hit an iceberg.
@@befrugalwithus not true. The message from smith was misinterpreted. Some thought he meant women and children only so only let women and children and sent off lifeboats with space for men if no more women and children could be found to board. Others allowed men to get on the boats after women and children.
I have been interested in this story ever since I was a child. I never grow tired of hearing about it. It’s interesting from a psychological perspective for sure y’all…
it was no god that did this, it was human arrogance. Overconfidence in the ship lead to a series of bad decisions that ended up costing thousands of lives.
The captain of the ship was warned 12 times about icebergs in the area where the ship was headed, the captain ignored the warnings, there was time enough for them to re route had captain taken the warnings seriously. The captain was responsible for the lives of those on board the ship.
He was under immense pressure to get the ship to NY as fast as possible and certainly paid the ultimate price. He probably didn't think the ship could sink so quickly and knew how many corners were cut in the design. He certainly had some responsibility, but there were many more people to blame as well.
Look into the Olympic ship. The titanics sister ship. It's alleged that the Olympic and titanic were switched as they were being fixed side by side and are nearly identical. Interesting how the Olympic kept getting broken while the titanic was being built so they would take parts from the titanic and put them on the Olympic. They say that the Olympic was unfixable and the owner couldn't get insurance because the Olympic was at fault so he switched them so that the Olympic would sink as the titanic and he would get the insurance money. The ships nearby were supposed to save everyone before it sank but the titanic sank to fast. Hence why the captain of the titanic did what he did
The Titanic met or exceeded the safety standards for that time. Notice, after the Titanic disaster the rules for safety changed. Lightoller, had a boat and helped take British troops out of Dunkirk during WWll. Very good presentation.
What are you on about? Did you not watch it? A lot of women and children from third class made it to the lifeboats. One of them is still the last living survivor in early 2010s. Still alive. 55:30. Stop bringing class here.
I watched 'Raise the Titanic' that was panned by press and public. But when you hear that music and see her rising from the sea it's hard not to think ..."IF ONLY ..." But she will rest with the other souls she could not carry to their proposed destination. She was indeed a glorious vessel and deserved so much better.
I have the book & watch the movie whenever it is available. I know exactly what you mean about the music & seeing her rise from the waves. I must admit I alway shed a few tears for the "what if's" & "if only's".
My great grandfather albert horswill was a crewman on rms titanic and survived the wreck on lifeboat one along with the Duff Gordons who the press accused of bribing him and six other crewmen on to not return to site and pickup passengers in the freezing water. This was not true , it was a kind gesture to the men to compensate them for lost wages. White Star quit paying the crew the moment the ship went down.
Why didn't they try to trow more wood from the cabbins in the water so more people could have survived floating on the wood or used the lifeboats as a fairy to the iceberg unload the boat and go for more people in the water🤔🤔🤔🤔😪😪😪
@Casey Gabriel actually that particular iceberg was photographed the next day by someone on the Carpathia when they went back to the area where Titanic sank. It would have been a very cold wait on that ice.
@@furryp2402 Well... We don't actually know that. There's been a _lot_ of iceberg photos claimed to be that of the one which dealt the fatal blow, but almost none of them can be verified to be *the* iceberg.
I've watched at least 3 Titanic movies, dozens and dozens of documentaries. Every time.. the ship sinks. I know how it ends. But I keep watching them anyway. I must be obsessed.
I love how time goes on new evidence contradicts any 'solutions' that came before. You need to be able to watch all the documentaries in chronological order to see how thoughts have changed and how new evidence has influenced this!
@Michelle Rodriquez Not disproven, so much as the studies never said what pop media said it did. The metal is brittle in cold water, and is weak _compared to modern day steel._ This shouldn't be a surprise; metallurgy *vastly* improved after WW2. Compared to steel of 1910-1912 however, it was perfectly ordinary steel, and was of the quality most ships of the day would have used. However, "Metal of 1912 worse than metal of the mid 90's" is not a gripping headline.
The theory that they should've slowed down/reversed the ship & took the iceberg head on was the best theory imo. It would've held the ship up longer until the other ships arrived to help. And probably could've towed the Titanic in
@@malecadam8182 seamen are taught to try to avoid collisions. Turning and stopping the engines was the correct solution. Hitting the iceberg head on, the titanic would have crushed the first 80 to 110ft of the bow section and most likely survived. BUT the bow section contained the off duty firemen and trimmers (2/3 of the them) most likely killing most of them….
Having experienced hypothermia myself, I can honestly say that it wasn't too bad. I was about 12 or 13 at the time and remember feeling very tired but not cold. Just wanting to go to sleep. I actually felt very comfortable and remember laying in the snow and it feeling like a soft blanket. I became so very tired I just could have gone to sleep very easily and there was also a feeling of great calm that came over me. Fortunately, people around me keeping me moving. So if I had a choice I think dying of cold and hypothermia wouldn't be as bad as actually drowning.
As an EMT ive always understood hypothermia as the most peaceful way to go of them bc of exactly what you just said. I'm wondering if he just meant that initial shock is painful but he also said that it was a terrible way but i think your experience is more accurate and is definitely not as painful as being burned or drowning which all could have and probably did happen on the titanic
Choosing between drowning or freezing to death in the middle of the Atlantic in the dead of winter experiencing the absolute terror those ppl went thur I'd say it's no choice at all....F drowning. Ur body forcing u to inhale water and that pain & horror of drowning...no ty , pls NO 🙏
Drowning wasn't the primary cause. When immersed in freezing/below freezing water, B/P drops extremely low, resps and heart rate increase to overcome it, which overburdens the heart. The heart rate increases so high that the heart muscle can no longer receive the electric conductivity it needs to beat rhythmically. Heart muscle quivers instead of beating, is not receiving enough blood flow, causing a heart attack.
@@MamaofaWrestler okay but if this true . why aren't ice baths we see celebs doing causing increase in heart attacks ? surley its the same shock to body. Except they do it without the layers of clothing !
Thankyou for presenting the details as you did. Now the full story which lead to the sad disaster is known. An excellent documentary, very well put together. Thanks, again.
My sympathy goes out to every passenger and crew member that lost their lives that night. However, the crew member that I feel the most sympathy for is radio operator Jack Phillips. That dude was up for almost 2 days straight, dealing with a backlog of passenger messages, and then, most likely exhausted to the point where he was going to pass out, had to frantically call for help, and even kept trying to call for help up until basically the very end, sacrificing his own life in the process.
@@jillmarie3841 I completely agree that he shouldn't have yelled at the Californian like that, but I can understand why it happened. He was very tired, when all of a sudden, he gets a sharp ring in his ear. That would piss anybody off when they're tired. I would most likely be angry as well.
Not really. Philips received an ice warning yet he indicated it as 'non urgent' and did not give the message to the captain. Phillips giving that message to the captain could have made a big difference tho.
@Aeneas To say it was the "greatest loss in modern maritime history," is a generality. This is misleading to anybody who is not aware of other maritime disasters, be they in peacetime or in times of war, especially when the Wilhelm Gustloff went down with between 9,000 to 10,000 people losing their lives. Perhaps documentaries like this should check their facts more closely.
During war or peace a ship going down with most or all people on board is tragic. Some are well remembered like the HMS Hood and Bismarck others like the Wilhelm Gustloff and the RMS Empress of Ireland are not as well known. As far as most tragic due to the loss of 1,012 people and the fact the RMS Empress of Ireland was so close to shore at the time is among the worse.
As time goes on, and Titanic dissolves at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean, I feel it still has a story that has drawn me in. Somehow, I've been touched by Titanic... and like so many others, I need to find out more and more...
The crazy thing is there are still many treasures that lie at the bottom of the ocean..But due to the pressure of the depths below they say they are unable to reach them at this time.
It should be noted that a ship's bow is designed to survive the ship striking something. A ship's sides are designed to BE struck by something. Since theoretically a side crash would open as many as two compartments, the Titanic was very well designed to be able to survive a four compartment breach. Five or more were just too much.
@@titopuente6149 There are different theories on whether the ship would have survived. That everyone would have survived is definitely wrong. Immediately, all the crew and especially third class passengers housed in the bow section would have been killed. The force of the ship moving at 21 knots hitting an immovable object would have, without warning, thrown passengers and crew all over the ship with many more being injured or killed. That said, every officer sailing would do everything could to avoid a collision. Hitting the iceberg head on would have had to be purely accidental.
@@falcon664 seen a doc on this before and as far as I remember there was no cabins toward the very front of the bow but you are right, the workers below deck would have been killed instantly and possible a number of passengers but she wouldn't have sank. Even if the worst damage imaginable happend to her bow she would've only flooded the very first front compartment and she could take on flooding in 4. I think it would have been far less tragic in terms of loss of life but then how do you explain at an enquiry you deliberetly rammed an ice berg not knowing the disaster you avoided. Hindsight is always 20/20.
I am! And as a recently Retired Navy Vet, I’ve done tours on 2 Aircraft Carriers, so this Documentary was very interesting. (Btw, Marines were always with us when the Ship deployed, we love Marines!) 😊
I forgot how much my childhood in the 80s and 90s was being obsessed with the titanic until the titan sank. This time I go down the rabbit hole I have internet.
When the Titanic was first discovered, they sent an ROV to examine the gash made by the iceberg. They didi find the ruptured plates, but no gash just as reported in this video. What they did find, and I remember watching this on TV, they found a 20 foot circular hole that they could drive through to the interior. They surmised that a large piece of iceberg had penetrated then broke off inside the ship. But there were no inward caving metal plates. All the plates around the hole were pushed outward as if by a blast from inside the hull. Not covered in this documentary are the accounts of survivors who swore they heard and felt a muffled explosion at the moment of.impact
This is the best done investigational documentary on the Titanic that I have seen. It’s the first one that made me cry, too. I think you will see all the factors; but one factor that stood out to me is that Mr . Phillips did not have any ability to prioritize what should be more important. His sole act of not relaying that utmost important message/warning sank the Titanic . I’m not sorry that he didn’t make it. The metallurgic information relayed by the lady engineer was what made this so fascinating. Cutting corners on rivets; cutting corners on safety/ lifeboats; and changing bulkheads for looks??? No binoculars/or back-up binoculars??? Maybe the Titanic could have sailed many years. Even with these problems;; Phillips sank her.
Actually, the Titanic, thanks to J. Bruce Ismay's idiotic meddling and changing of her design, is solely the blame as he doomed the ship before her keel was even laid. Phillips was just a typical "company" man who realized too late that he had screwed up!
Harland and Wolff never cut corners on any of the ships she built. It had a specific contract with White Star. It charged White Star for expenses incurred in the building of the ship, plus a specific amount for profit. Thus, they gained nothing by cutting corners. As well, White Star never challenged or complained about anything they were ever charged by the builders. The issue with Phillips and Bride not prioritizing messages came from a few factors. 1) They weren't employees of White Star. They worked for the Marconi company, which made money by charging passengers to send and receive wireless messages. Phillips and Bride, if they wanted to get paid, had to work on those. Messages to and from other ships were secondary. As well, they weren't navigators so they didn't appreciate the significance of ice warnings. (i.e. They knew ice was a hazard, but didn't understand that the ship was already in the areas listed in the warnings. Latitude and longitude readings likely meant nothing to them.) 2) Nobody on the ship (or likely any ship at that time) really recognized the value of wireless as a navigation tool. Captain Smith, most of his officers, and officers on all other ships had spent most of their careers sailing without any wireless at all. They likely trusted their experience and instincts over a newfangled gadget. 3) There was really no set procedure for handling ice messages. Messages specifically addressed to Captain Smith were taken to him right away. Messages addressed to the ship itself were brought to the bridge when they had an opportunity to do so. That harkened back to the bridge officers not really appreciating the value of wireless as a navigation aid. As for binoculars, they'd be useless at night for spotting anything. They enhance range but narrow scope. They would not help lookouts spot breaks in the horizon, which is really the only thing they could look for on such a calm, dark night.
i think it's unfair, for lack of a better word, to blame one man for the sinking of the ship. this documentary portrays more than several reasons for the disaster, and blaming it on something that was never confirmed nor denied just seems, again, for lack of a better word, unfair. since phillips is dead, we'll never truly know if he did or did not deliver that ice warning to the deck. the catastrophe was set into action long before anyone even boarded the ship. with the use of medium strength rivets, the course of the iceberg, and ignoring the ice warnings all put the disaster's chain of events into play. many of your claims were very true, but i personally feel as though it certainly couldn't have been the fault of one man whom we have no knowledge of the actions he took. (unrelated but you seem like a really cool person! lol)
It wasn't all, or even mostly, Phillip's fault. The crew knew there was ice around, and Smith, as the Captain, bears more fault - for example, he could have gone and talked to Philips directly that evening. But if Phillips had listened to that one critical message from the Californian, and taken it to the bridge, things might have been different.
Philips did nothing wrong. He did not tell the Californian to 'shut up'. He sent an abbreviation that meant 'stop sending'. This was common practice amongst Radio Officers and Philips did so because he was already working Cape Race.
I can't get enough of documentaries or stories about Titanic.
Me, neither!
Around the time the movie came out there were tons of shows & docs on it. I definitely OD'd. Books too.
Ain't that the truth ✨🙏✨
@@techtech2333 My great grandfather survived the wreck. Albert Horswill, look him up on encyclopedia Titanica. He was accused of accepting a bribe from a wealthy couple along with some of his fellow to not return to the wreck to pick up passengers in the water.
I am a travel advisor and I believe we will have a Titanic 2 hitting the waters sometime between 2022 - 2024. A Transatlantic Cruise Ship ladies and gentlemen. There has been some talk about it. If so, that’s going to be so amazing.
Is it just me or is the titanic like an anomaly in your brain? I never get tired of hearing about it.
same
It's so fascinating,the disaster was terrible but it's also left something with us,the most incredible story and the greatness of the ship will never be surpassed,she's more than just a ship,there's something very special about it all.
I watch the movie titanic countless times lol
Same I watch the movie everyday
U couldn’t have said it any better lol
The scariest part of the sinking of the titanic is when the lights go out and the sound of the metal breaking in the pitch darkness of the Atlantic Ocean.
Can you imagine what that must have been like? Shivers.
What a way to die, trapped in the pitch darkness of the ship as it sinks beneath the waves.
there is no evidence of that actually happening, they just put in the movies to make it look cool. ships are not made of metal, they were made or iron and steel
@@Chaseful Didn’t happen huh? My great grandfather was a crewman who survived the sinking. The sound of that monster breaking apart sending funnels crashing down was a noise so terrifying he said it could not be replicated by anything else. It was a sound that he would hear in his mind for the rest of his life.
@@donnix768 But you dont know that for sure. People lie to make things more dramatic.
OceanGate has literally taken me back to my Titanic obsessed era…. Rest in peace to each and every soul lost.
Me too!!
yes i am revisiting the horrible tragedy of the titanic..it has claimed 5 more souls..
me too
Me too
Once again, the ARROGANCE of one man cost the lives of others. Stockton Rush was as arrogant as this so called captain if not even MORE, as he laughed or got angry when safety and his reckless regard for others was addressed. It makes me angry to hear his "friends" call him an explorer or brave when in fact he was a narcissistic madman hellbent on cutting corners and firing anybody who dare call him out on his Madness! He's a MURDERER. A DEAD MURDERER but still a MURDERER and no HERO!!!!!!
It's amazing how this tragedy is still heavy on our hearts. We never get tired of hearing about it.
SHAME THEY MURDERED ALL THOSE PEOPLE.
You mean;We never get passed being fooled by it ! This was an insurance scam & backed as a fait acomplie by British Gov.
Its still present because the mystery of its sinking was so profound it scared the world.
@KiLDiG Horror Movie Archive its still tragic as it could have been avoided yes people die but when disasters can be prevented its devastating that all those people died to many poor choices. I too love to hear about stories like this but it's still sad knowing lives are lost in so many sinkings and other disasters natural or not.
The problems we are facing today, is coming from that point, WHO Order to Crash the Titanic.? That happen in 1912, months before the Federal Reserve came to America, and who was in the Titanic? The very rich millionaires that oppose the Federal reserves. So connecting the dots, by 1913 the feds stablish themselves in America, is the same people that invented the quantitive banking, base on all compound interest. In 1912, if you borrow $50K, you pay back $50K, but with the compound interest you pay $150K back. So the feds, pay the congress, the judges and put agencies like HUD, the Division of Mortgage Lending, even the Bar Association, all agencies suppose to work for us, but they are there to protect the banks.
Who is watching in 2021? 109 years after the sinking? I am still intrigued by the titanic. Sad sad tragedy and so many innocent lives lost over greed of Whitestar lines.
I'm rewatching this lol
Me.
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watching in 2021 also, Titanic intrigues me just as much as space
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It seems no matter how many docs I watch about the Titanic, I always Learn sometimes new.
You probably just forget a lot;) the positive side is that docs stay interesting
Same
True, I'm getting to the point where I know everything, well not everything. I want to visit a titanic museum soooooo bad!
@@0mally13 My great grandfather was a crewman on the rms titanic. He survived on lifeboat one. His name is Albert Horswill, you can read about him on Encyclopedia Titanica and you can read about the controversy with his lifeboat on wikipedia under the page “Titanic Lifeboat No.1.”
@@donnix768 incredible, God bless his soul with what he saw that night, and all those lives he probably put before his own.🙏🏼
Since I was 6-7 years old and first read about it in a book on my parents bookshelf, I have been absolutely fascinated by the story. I'm 40 now and my youngest girl has been fascinated by it since she was 6 years old, it's a truly timeless, magnetic tale, the size of the ship, the opulence, the fact it was on its maiden journey, the fact it was considered "unsinkable" the speed of the sinking, the hubris in fitting it insufficiently with lifeboats, the depth and temperature of the water it sank in, the Captains terrible decision making etc etc. Its something that, once aware of, it's extremely hard to not be fascinated by.
The real story is worse! The Titanic didn’t even go down! There was a switch before the maiden voyage. The Olympic was sunk . She had been damaged twice. They pulled an insurance scam. Captain Smith was in on the scam . That’s why he ran through the berg field so fast. So Morgan’s plan worked. He killed Astor and robbed America of a just money system ! And got paid for sinking a damaged ship! Win win!!
I adore this. I was same age when I watched a Titanic movie that was made in the '50s.
Don't die as a disbeliever
@@jenniferparks3567s suicide not allowed
@@jenniferparks3567 "a night to remember" I think that was called. Great film!
Disaster rarely occurs over one event. Often it's a series of poor decisions, or lack of action that causes it.
Yes they didn’t care to put in more safety measures so they could set sail sooner. Some people forget that there were stowaways and a few others aboard without tickets but not stowaways so they were overpacked. They used the wrong metals for the rest of the titanic, they didn’t report the iceberg soon enough, they didn’t stop to replace some metal for special machinery that was melting and overheated because they didn’t want to stop and delay, they didn’t use the right signals when using radio and they didn’t use the right flares to signal for help. Yeah there was so much that went wrong in the making of the Titanic.
There is a list a mile long of little errors all of which could play a part. Even something like Olympics accident causing the delay of Titanics Maiden voyage.... If that hadn't happened she would have sailed when there was less danger of ice!
It's as if a lot of special forces put her in that position at that time, in that condition. This is when I believe some things can not be avoided. Sometimes, sadly, major things need to happen to ensure changes for the future!
wrong way if saying it. disaster is not coused by an accident. its a series of chains of events that lead up to the collision
@@loveywilliams4276 could you clarify please. What machinery was melting and overheated. What should have been the right flares? What safety measures were not put on?
@@loveywilliams4276 Er... What?
There may have been stowaways, sure, but when the total occupancy of known occupants puts her only 2/3 full, you'd need a _LOT_ of stowaways to be "overpacked." I'd think someone might notice she was overbooked at that point.
The metal is subpar compared to modern metallurgy, but was of standard quality for shipbuilding in 1912. The only people who remarked on it was the Board of trade asking if the ship used any special metals like the Lusitania class did (as this would affect certain stress equations) to which WSL said, "Nope, this is the normal stuff, use the normal calculations"
I'm not sure what you mean by "Didn't report the iceberg soon enough."
The only instance of anything possibly overheating is a coal fire that warped some metal of a bulkhead. It was unlikely to have caused any significant effect on the ship sinking, as this would have been the bulkhead for compartment 6
They used the Marconi standard of CQD and later on switched to the relatively new SOS for their distress calls. Ships in the area knew exactly what it meant; the problem was distance, not confusion.
The Socket Signals launched were regulation signals; Just because the Californian crew didn't bother to double check what was going on didn't mean they were.
A lot of the bad decisions that led up to the sinking were mostly on the front of inadequate regulations (that were known to be inadequate for over a decade at this point) and an industrywide cavalier attitude to ice, problems that I should emphasize were _not_ unique to the Titanic or her crew. If the Titanic didn't hit the berg we'd be hearing about how the Mauretania struck an iceberg with massive loss of life instead.
It's crazy that for 2 years as the Titanic was being built, the iceberg was moving into position to unbuild it.
Yeah 100 metres to the right no worries. So many things went wrong it's unbelievable
It took two years to build her, but took only two hours to snap in half and sink. 😢
All the iceberg had to do was tare along the dotted line.
Devine justice for it's ungodlyness.
Ironically Titanic is in much better shape than her sister Ship Olympic. Which is nothing but razer blades and who knows what else these days- Scrapped in 1930's while Titanic has a cozy place at the bottom of the ocean.
Honestly I thought I was the only one who just couldn't get the Titanic off my conscience. It's like a magnet that draws me to watch it's doom everytime.
I'm the same. Titanic, Jfk, Marilyn Monroe, 911, UFO disclosures.... its because its all absolutely riddled with controversy and pain, yet who got away with it....
I believe it was sunk by a German sub probably wrong though
@@caseyoakes4789 everyone said it was an iceberg, the time it sank match when icebergs flowed down from the northern ice caps, WW1 didn’t start for another 2 years, probably not a U-Boat, no war was declared between the UK and Germany, so… why would a German sub sink a liner, also, the torpedo explosion would have left a huge hole in the side of the ship, so why is there none visible on the wreck.
@@Xeno1001 you know we had a war ship that saw the distress lights from the Titanic our ship was looking for the u boat
@@caseyoakes4789 I stay on my point, why is there no visible torpedo damage on the Titanic, and what warship, do you have any idea how vague that is, what was its name, was it a destroyer, cruiser, what was it, I know there were other ships in the area but no “warships” to my knowledge, and certainly no U-Boats.
i still can’t believe the titanic was inspected and approved with 16 lifeboats out of 48, that’s insane
They didn't have time to fill 2 of the lifeboats, so more wouldn't have necessarily helped.
She was supposedly unsinkable
Due to greed, even in 1912.
FACTS 💯
Alexander Carlyle had specialized davits made to accommodate 4 life boats each! 4 x 16 is 64! It was a 14 month long battle to get the intended 64 down to 16! There is a “late 19th century” complacency written all over this story. E J Smith was not a great captain. He wrecked the Olympic, the Coptic, the Baltic and then he ignores warning after warning about a massive 80 mile long, 30 mile wide field of Ice 🧊 directly in his path. April 12th 9:00 am SS Coronia sent out the first message with the critical MSG heading (Master Service Gram intended for the Captain or an officer on the Bridge.)
For the lookouts, it would have been painful to stare into 25 mile per hour, 25 degree Fahrenheit wind. Their eyes would have been tearing up nonstop. Without binoculars to block that icy wind, it would have been incredibly hard to peer into a moonless night and see what most people in this community know to be a “Blue Berg” or Black Berg” which is when an Iceberg is in its melting stage and has flipped and gone “turtle” so instead of white glistening edifice shining in the night, you have crystal clear glass like Ice that you can see right through. Then there was the weather. The capper is that from the day the Titanic left Belfast she was on Fire.
White Star had to commission coal from other vessels just to make the one way crossing of the Atlantic. So many warnings, included the last one she would get, from Evans on the Californian around 11:00 🕚 pm the night of the sinking. From choosing ordinary steel to choosing 16 lifeboats to ignoring hazardous ice warnings, it would have been a miracle had they not sunk! All souls involved deserve to rest in peace, but this tragedy was so utterly avoidable that it is almost manslaughter. No boats, no one to look after them, no multinational linguistic system, no public address system. How 3rd class passengers were treated was rather bad in critical areas. The Titanic did give birth to the International Ice Patrol so this wouldn’t happen again. It also gave birth to a multibillion dollar industry with the exploiter class at the very top. Of the 1500 innocent men, women and children who lost their lives to the frozen depths, not a cent of movie or book, music and merchandise money ever went to their families. It is these 1,500 people that paid the ultimate price for this “blood money” so now the best thing to do is have the titanic society start to seek out the relatives of these victims so that a wrong being committed for the last 111 years can start to be made right.
Wow. Anything that COULD have gone wrong, WENT wrong. Rest In Peace all those lost. ❤
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Well, now how do I get a refund for these tickets???
There is no one to blame for the disaster.
Slag is weaker than iron. However, the slag-rivets was punched into titanic in a wrong way, making the slag even weaker.
But you can't blame the one/ones who ordered titanic to be built that way, they didnt know that slag-rivets got weaker by being punched that way. in laboratory, the
slag-rivets built in a wrong way failed at about 10 000 oif pressure. However, even iron-rivets built in a right way, couldn't take 14 000 of pressure in the laboratory.
This is why you never call something unsinkable... there's always someone who takes up on the challenge.
Anyone that believes the official narrrative of what happened is a fool. Look into the history of who was on that boat, what they believed, and why very powerful men would want them out of the way. It's no coincidence that the Federal Reserve was formed the next year in 1913. Do the research and THINK.
@@applemauzel White Star never actually called the ship unsinkable. The news had used the term "unsinkable" and this was taken further in the movie saying that "God could not sink the ship" which was never actually said. This leads to people believing such a thing.
Am I th only one who just can't seem to hv enough of seeing and hearing every lil detail of titanic stories, movies n everything. There is something very wonderful about it.
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Probably the best documentary I have watched on the Titanic. Well done. Enjoyed watching,
I agree 💯
Most of this "documentary" is made up garbage.
I thought so too.
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The lesson here is to never call a ship unsinkable
Remember on the movie when that man said , not even God Himself can sink this ship
You don't play with God. I have respect for God and the water
Once again the word unsinkable has taken 5 lives more close to 111 year old unsinkable
I don't the ship was ever called unsinkable buy the builders.. more like that it was almost unsinkable..
No such thing as a unsinkable ship.
It's amazing what a perfect Cascade of events had to take place in order for the ship and the iceberg to arrive at the same point at the same time. Like most disasters it's not one single thing that causes the catastrophe, it's a chain of events.
a perfect storm on a perfectly calm sea
And that is usually the case when a commercial airliner crashes - not one thing only its often a series of things that happen when put together can cause a disaster... usually.
@@generalgrant3189 Not in the case of Boeing. All they care about is money. Don't fly on a Boeing plane.
@@MamaofaWrestler You are correct which is why I don't fly on ANY plane.... I refuse to fly - period. I have ZERO trust i human beings.
@@generalgrant3189 Give the Antonov AN 2 a chance. In the words of Skyships Eng; "It would take quite an effort to crash one." Someone else has even said that "They are so slow you probably wouldn't get injured even if it did crash" in response to my comment that they are impossible to spin.
Since learning of the disaster in elementary school in the 1960's I have been captivated by the disaster. I've tried to read, view, and take as much information as I can about the tragedy. This documentary is the best I've ever seen on the subject. Thank you for the research and making this vast information available to us in this format.
You’re likely my age, I’m 60. I heard about Titanic as a kid because people would gossip about an old lady that lived in the neighborhood who had survived the sinking of Titanic. I never met her but that would have been mid sixties and I’ve been fascinated ever since.
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A splendid example of why we learned in the naval service that there is no such thing as an "accident." There are incidents that have a cause - mechanical, natural, and/or personnel cause incidents. A natural event, mistakes made by personnel, and mechanical/design failures doomed the Titanic. An excellent presentation.
Exactly! I feel the same for people who say "I didn't know we were pregnant" like man c'mon
Right, and those events were completely unintended. Meaning it was an accident. Talk about pedantic. 🙄
Supposing it was not unintended, if he is so pedantic he should have considered that one.
This is why we hey have SOLAS now. Safety of Life At Sea and protocols in case of an incident . Lifeboats must be enough to cover all passengers and crew
@@salt27dogg Shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. There always has to be a disaster before they actually do something, saying anything beforehand does no good. This whole sordid affair however may have brought SOLAS forward.
My friend's grand-father was on the Carpathia when they picked up the surviving Titanic passengers. I would have loved to have spoken to him about that...
Could have asked what they were doing in an ice field when they were headed from New York to the Mediterranean.
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@@aj6954it wasn’t it was headed to New York from Southampton
@@BassJunky-music She is talking about the Carpathia not the Titanic. Carpathia was going to what is now Rijeka in Croatia when it picked up the Titanic survivors.
In the years after this documentary, Millvina Dean died on May 31, 2009. She was the youngest passenger to survive the sinking of the Titanic.
Yeah I think everybody knows that about her
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It's amazing how I never get tired of Titanic. I can watch the same documentary a hundred times. Read the same article over and over again. Spend countless hours on encyclopedia titanica.
Wanna go see it in the titan?
Me too
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“The last lifeboat leaves with over 1600 people left onboard.”
Absolutely bone chilling 😞
It’s pathetic that they were concerned about Luxury and not equipped with enough safety equipment for the passengers. I heard that 64 boats was needed, but there was only 16 boats.
Lifeboat No 1 left with only 12 people, 7 of them crew. The other 5 were members of the Duff Gordon party.
Additional lifeboats wouldn't have helped. They didn't have time to launch all they had aboard.
@@Harley0848 boats were needed, per the original order.
@@shawnkeith1164No, they launched them all, the lifeboats. They were not filled, though. There were a couple collapsible boats that was launched by Lighrtower, but one turned over. That was the one that Lighttower was on when he rescued the communications guy.
There's been a lot of horrific events in the history of mankind. For me, personally, this is the scariest. As someone who has never been a strong swimmer, and who almost drowned as a kid.....the story of the Titanic scares the hell out of me. I simply can't imagine what all those people were going through in their final hours. But I can't stop watching documentaries and whatever else when made available. 😔
As someone who had swim lesson for 12 years and who became a strong swimmer, I could float and never sink, this event scares me. I can’t imagine what those passengers experienced. I can imagine being pulled under water with no way to get to the surface. Truly horrifying.
IDK how much it helps, but very few people actually drowned. Most of them were stuck in their cabins and the air pressure got to them before the water did. A majority of the people in the water froze or had heart failure from the cold.
It’s never too late nor ever too old to take swimming lessons. I highly recommend it. That and always have a life jacket available.
Lol you just think it is sad because of the passengers. If the ship was like, a cargo ship, people would not care in the slightest
@@Sate12 that’s even worse to
Think about.
This is probably the first Titanic documentary I’ve watched from which I learned information I had not previously known. Thanks for posting.
A lot of this is dramatized and inaccurate ^^
This is filled with a lot of misinformation and lies.
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What intrigues me so much is just how surreal such a circumstance of the sinking of the Titanic was. And it just feels like a movie, because of how dramatic it is. And also I love historical things that changed how things were done in the future; as this is certainly one of them.
Yes
It wasn’t anything particularly extraordinary, the sinking. The actions of the engineers and radiomen, sure, but other than that it was just a sinking ship, without enough lifeboats.
@@ChickenLiver911 Yea but 1,500 people dying in one day? And it was just an “ordinary” sinking of a ship? That’s what makes it crazy. This amount of loss is what makes it something to remember
@@ChickenLiver911 “Historic Travels” on UA-cam explains how even if there was enough life boats it wouldn’t have saved all the passengers and they did start to launch the boats around 12:40 am. They barely released the last two life boats as the ship increased in the sinking
@@ChickenLiver911 wasn't just any old ship though, it was a record breaking technical marvel and a hand crafted artistic masterpiece that got sunk on its maiden voyage. The immense sense of tragedy and the sheer waste of such a beautiful vessel is unparreleled. It's also the truly horrific nature of the majority of passenger deaths straight out of your worst nightmares that make it so dramatic. It wasn't a military vessel going to war or a crew only ship on a risky journey, it was carrying families to new lives on a well travelled path. For it to go from a voyage of hope and joy to such horrific doom is what hooks people in I think. The fact it also had people of every background also makes it a universal tragedy.
Been in those pitch dark Atlantic's. Abandoning a vessel in such waters is just like a worst nightmares come true. Even thinking of it send chills down the spine.
I had similar thoughts about a trans atlantic flight i took in my youth. Imagining being stranded in those waters, in the cold and dark with little to no hope. Terrifies me even today in memory. I cant imagine the sheer horror that night had
There is no one to blame for the disaster.
Slag is weaker than iron. However, the slag-rivets was punched into titanic in a wrong way, making the slag even weaker.
But you can't blame the one/ones who ordered titanic to be built that way, they didnt know that slag-rivets got weaker by being punched that way. in laboratory, the
slag-rivets built in a wrong way failed at about 10 000 oif pressure. However, even iron-rivets built in a right way, couldn't take 14 000 of pressure in the laboratory.
It's horrorfying like the grim reaper watching pulling the ship to its water grave deep inside the north Atlantic Ocean my god 😮
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111 years ago, as of this comment, and this still feels like a fresh wound in our hearts and minds. This tragedy touched so many different races and cultures that it was as if the world mourned in unison when the news broke. I still feel the sadness when I watch these documentaries. It's history, but it's a history we actually learned from.
Ur comment couldn't have been written any better. 😢
Beautifully heartfelt sentiments
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In the worst possible way.
You won't get me on a ship, or anything else.
A terrible way to go.
How long did the ice berg last, I wonder?
Anniversary of RMS Titanic. Rest In Peace to all the souls that voyaged with this beauty.
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Yes, I also feel that way about the Titanic disaster . It's such a terrifying, sad and enduring story,and I think it's because It was such a freak accident that was somehow destined to happen that affects people the way it does.
Another eerie detail to the story is that about 14 years before the Titanic went down a book was written about a ship called the Titan that hit an iceberg in the North Atlantic and sank .
Wow
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The book was actually called “the wreck of the titan” (the “reboot” of the book in the early 1900s
Wooooowww that is so Strange my feelings dont trust it sorry 🤔
What happend with the Message???
This entire film is the reason why documentaries exist! Amazing content! All things Titanic is just pure brain candy. This documentary is absolutely fascinating.
Agreed I went in watching this as they are going to have actors over act their parts n made up stuff. But then I just finished watching now they did a pretty good documentary on it.
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My neighbour in Leeds had a pass for the Titanic she was to work as a hairdresser onboard . She was taken ill at the time and didn’t board the ship .Then in 1977 in her early 80 s both her and her husband still alive showed me the boarding pass and paperwork showing her wages . She said she was so upset at the time not boarding then the news came through of the sinking she started crying still in shock some 60 + years on . We moved across the City in 1977 that was the last time seeing her, Mrs Proctor and Husband
That would have made her a young teenager at the time. So how did she have a husband? Also how was she a hairdresser so young? A hairdresser from the early 20th century earning enough for a ticket on the Titanic, okay 😂. She must have had to be severely ill not to go seen as the trip would have been at least a week so plenty of time for her to get better while sleeping in her cabin. For her to still have the boarding pass is weird, as surely she would have sold her ticket. There were only 112 passengers who didn’t make it on. Most of those were first class passengers (which she wouldn’t be as a hairdresser) and crew (who had gotten drunk in Southampton the night before and didn’t make it to the ship on time. There was one woman called Maude Powell who was meant to be on the ship but couldn’t go due to being ill but it can’t be her as it’s a different sir name. Basically, what I’m trying to say is your story is bollocks!
I've never had enough of these documentaries on Titanic. I'm i alone?
My first watching it .
Nope..I’ve been a buff over 45 years and I’ll never retire my obsession!
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When I was a kid they always said the titanic saw a closer ship that did not help. Always found that interesting. Now finding out the reason that ship didn't help was because they shut off the telegraph after the titanic operator cussed them out has to be one of the biggest blunders I ever heard from both parties.
The California was blocking the poor boy's signal which was hindering his deadlines to send out messages on time for Titanic spoiled, rich guests who wanted their boastful notice sent out quickly of their early arrival. He was under stress to get this out which shows how the entitled rich can be a pain in the a$$ to work for, since it's all about what they want. Too bad they forgot to mention that in this documentary.
Also california saw titanic's distress rockets but thought titanic was saying hello lol like what the heck
in all likelihood he would have gone to bed either way. the Issue was not Phillips. Ironically most people don't know but Jack Phillips stayed up all night the previews night fixing his wireless set- against instructions from his employers. Had that not been done Titanic would have sent out no signals at all.
@@ALX65 because the flares they sent out were of the wrong colour...apparently, they shot party flares instead of the distress signal...
Actually the wireless operator on the Californian, Cyrus something, was not at fault. He signed off because it was his normal sleep time, not for being cussed out. Philip on the Titanic definitely screwed up there though.
Titanic is one story i can't seem to get enough of
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It's not a story
All this new information makes for such an amazing documentary, like many comments it was a culmination of events that led to the sinking of the Titanic. So very sad and heartbreaking loss of life. I really appreciate how those men dropped the wreaths in the water at the site of the sinking. The sinking of the Titanic never ceases to touch our hearts. I believe it's the loss of life that most likely could have been prevented but was not.
I learned quite a bit from this documentary. Well done, easy to follow and fascinating.
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My Grandmother was born same year T was made, and she was 3, when it sailed. I always think of her because just a few years later she came to Ellis Island on a Scandinavian ship called Hellig Olav. There is a photo of it in Ellis Island museum. She said it was rough seas. She lived to be 2 weeks shy of 101.🙏Kram min lilla Mormor❤️
I feel that way about my dear German grossemutti who came to America on the Moltke in 1907 with her husband and their two daughters. Ich liebe dich, Grossemutti. 💘 🙏 🌼
Great story!
There is no one to blame for the disaster.
The Slag-rivets they built into Titanic are a little bit weaker than iron-rivets. However, the slag-rivets were punched into titanic in a wrong way, making the slag even weaker.
But you can't blame the one/ones who ordered titanic to be built that way, they didnt know that slag-rivets got weaker by being punched that way.
in laboratory, the
slag-rivets built in a wrong way failed at about 10 000 of pressure. However, even iron-rivets built in a right way, failed at about 14 000 of pressure.
@@scottwarren4998 There are people to blame. They shouldn't have been going 21 knots. They should've had glasses in the tower. The Californian could've help. And so on.
Didn’t they switch names on two ships Titanic and Olympic ? If this is so then it was the Olympic that was hit by the iceberg that sank !!! SO the Titanic lives on !!!
This is definitely one of the better documentaries about the titanic. There is another good one about the boiler room men
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I find the story fascinating and haunting. Always interested to hear more about it.
I still get teary eyed at the end... I'm 51 And I've been obsessed with this ship since my mother turned me on to the story when I was 10. I don't know what it is but it still leaves me Speechless @ 2:20am.😢😢😢
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Tragic that so many poor Irish died on their way to a hopeful new life.
Every life lost was a tragedy.
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I’m glad milveena was willing to give interviews, it’s amazing to see new age survivor testimony, like she was just a baby and had one of the most intense near death experiences a person could
Edit: not to mention her poor mother having to witness all of it, I’m not surprised she wouldn’t even speak about it
There is no one to blame for the disaster.
Slag is weaker than iron. However, the slag-rivets was punched into titanic in a wrong way, making the slag even weaker.
But you can't blame the one/ones who ordered titanic to be built that way, they didnt know that slag-rivets got weaker by being punched that way. in laboratory, the
slag-rivets built in a wrong way failed at about 10 000 oif pressure. However, even iron-rivets built in a right way, couldn't take 14 000 of pressure in the laboratory.
as a INFANT she would not have known anything of the actual sinking or such..all she did know was what she could extract from her mother and ide say that aint much
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American Survivor Lilian Asplund who passed away on 6th May 2006 at age 99 was the last titanic survivor with memories of the titanic. Milvina dean was only 10 months old at the time of the sinking and didn't remember the titanic at all. Nonetheless may them both and all the titanic survivors and victims rest in peace they will never be forgotten.
Milveena was aged only 2 months on the Titanic. Ludicrous to believe she had the slightest idea what was going on. No, she was merely recalling what her mother told her for years afterwards. And what she has read and seen over the years.
My earliest memories start at the age of about 4.
I agree I never get sick of it. I love it.
Titanic tested fate and God, by ignoring warnings and ignoring safety and calling the ship unsinkable I believe the Titanic is the lesson that keeps on teaching. No matter our fascination with the wreck we must remember these were real people who died and it’s a massive gravesite and honestly should be left alone. Over a 100 yrs later and this ship continues to take lives simply because we haven’t learned to let it be
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In that sense if what your acclaimed God can do is to sink a ship with many not considering the children on it then he is a foolish God. The sinking was due to happen and the captain all knows what they were doing
No one is getting out alive on this planet so always have that in mind
Imagine the feelings of Jack Philips and Caption Smith after the collision when it is declared that It will sink. How terrible they must be feeling
Jack Philips did nothing wrong.
@@joebish6629 yes, but smith made a big mistake. he should have slow down or stopped.
Had a pretty poor record Captain Smith.
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I've made an airfix replica of the titanic several years ago & it's got it's pride of place in my display cabinet. I've been to Liverpool maritime museum to see a larger replica of the titanic & the full history behind it. I'll never get tired of hearing about the titanic. May they all rest in peace.
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Really doesn't matter what the reasons for its sinking
Human arrogance to think any ship is unsinkable was enough to seal its fate
How?
Using that word "unseakable "made it to sink.. Allah first 🙏🙏
Warped comment. The two don’t follow and in any case no one thought it was literally unsinkable rather it was designed to stay afloat for enough time to ferry the passengers to rescue ships.
I don’t think anyone at that time knew that there is no such thing as an “unsinkable ship”
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Most excellent telling of this nautical disaster. Great production.
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Just watched the 25th anniversary of the Titanic movie and now here watching the real story, still can't believe the ship that took more than 2 years to build and thought of as unsinkable only took about 2 hours to sink
On its maiden voyage nonetheless
@@shawnd567 According to the official narrative. Some will say it was the Olympic that sank, in which case
statistically it was its ninth round voyage.
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That’s actually a conspiracy theory, people have looked into it saying that they sunk the Olympic on purpose to get insurance. Is it true? We won’t know for years to come but saying it’s an official narrative isn’t true.
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Such a horrific tragedy!
And completely avoidable!
It hurts just to watch this, even a full century later.
REST IN PEACE !
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...but how avoidable is nature, really?
Just like the nasa tragedy that was as bad and due to penny pinching
I just can't get enough of it .it's so horrendous an unreal very sad . I still ask how could it happen ? We may never really know ......
Was it an insurance job ?
BEST documentary I've seen for giving >all factors< leading to the tragedy-incl. key info about the rivets I'd never heard before. R.I.P. to those lost.
The best documentary of Titanic. Thank you for your work!
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One of the better docs i've seen with regard to the quality of the rivets.
This is an amazing documentary, probably made in 2008.
There were about 12 conditons that cause so many people to die.
If we could just eliminate one of these 12, many would have lived.
1 More than 16 lifeboats
2 Full height bulkheads, not just the first one.
3 Not making the panic turn but instead just hitting the berg head
on. Only the first bulkhead would have flooded because it had
the full height bulkhead.
4 Not ignoring the wireless message
5 The 2nd wireless message no officer received
6 The Californian switching off it's wireless because
of the rude comment by Titanice operator
7 Changing ship's direction
8 Lack of binoculars on the crow's nest
9 Being a dead calm moonless night making it hard to see bergs
10 A abnormally large iceberg making it so far south.
11 Using No. 3 rivets instead of the stronger No.4 rivets.
12 Not going Full Speed
What is the probability of having all 12 of these conditions?
It is mind boggling to me to think of all those innocent people
who died and what their lives could have meant to our world.
1). She carried more lifeboats than BoT regulations demanded.
2). She was designed to stay afloat with four of sixteen bulkheads compromised. Six were actually compromised.
3). No sea officer at the time would intentionally create a head-on collision. You are being wise after the even.
4). Wireless messages were not ignored. As the testimony of several master mariners at the British Inquiry confirmed, they would have acted exactly as Smith did.
5). What?
6). Californian's operator switched off at his usual time. One operator did not work 24 hours per day. The supposed 'rude comment' actually DDD in morse shorthand, merely meant 'clear the frequency.' Californian's operator, in later testimony, even confirmed that he did not regard the signal as 'rude.'
7). For what reason? Smith had taken the usual precautions (see 4).
8). Irrelevant, and even contradicted by your own 9). Binoculars were used to identify items which had already been spotted.
9). & 10). True.
11). Olympic used exactly the same construction materials, and was a successful liner for almost 25 years. No ship was likely to have survived what happened to Titanic.
12). She didn't. Five boilers were not connected.
Even the Titanic's delayed maiden voyage due to the Olympics collision and needing repairs
Also if they didn’t do it in ice burg season
The boat sank 14 loaded. 2 went with because there wasn't enough time.
The Titanic didn’t sink! It was the Olympic! The captain was in on the scam . JPMorgan did it! So if that ONE thing was different, everyone would have survived.
I am intrigued by a number of things raised in this documentary. Firstly, the cast iron rivets being held as the cause of her sinking “so fast”. Titanic took 2 1/2 hours to sink, and calculations made estimate a hole roughly the size of a house door being of the size needed to introduce water into the ship in a quantity needed to sink the ship in that time. Open portholes and a cargo door would have hastened things as she went down, but that’s how big a hole would be needed. Her sister ship Britannic struck a mine in the Kea Channel in WW1 - her build incorporated a double bottom and watertight bulkheads extending much higher than those on Titanic, but she sank in only 55 minutes. And Cunard liner Lusitania sank much more quickly than that again, after being struck by a single torpedo.
Then there’s the lack of binoculars. Could that have made a difference? The ship was travelling at 40 kph into freezing air - whether the lookouts had binoculars or not, it is unlikely they’d be able to prevent eyes from watering or squinting. The berg itself was apparently a “black berg”, a berg that had recently turned over in the water and therefore much darker in colour that icebergs are often pictured. Then there was the mirage effect that existed that night due to the odd weather conditions and abnormally flat calm, making the berg almost impossible to see until it was extremely close. And then there is Murdoch’s bridge order to put the rudder “hard a-starboard” and reverse both engines; had he reversed only the port engine and left the starboard at full forward, the ship might have turned more quickly and missed the berg. Reversing both engines effectively negated the effect of the (admittedly too small for a ship that size) rudder, causing the “slow response” many people have noted.
And Californian? The officers on both ships clearly saw each other, although the officers on Californian effectively did nothing. The radio on Californian was of a type powered by clockwork, and once the radio operator finished his shift at midnight and went to bed, the clockwork wound down and efforts to use it by others who did not know to wind it up were fruitless. But even if Stanley Lord had been awakened and realised what was going on, the ship had hove to earlier that day in pack ice. Her boilers were cold. It would have taken over an hour, and likely more, to have restarted her engines with enough steam pressure for her to move, meaning she would have arrived slightly after Carpathia. As it was, Californian reached the scene just as Carpathia was preparing to depart in late morning (pics taken by passengers on Carpathia show this).
Titanic was as strong (if not stronger than) many ships afloat today. She remained afloat for 2 1/2 hours after the collision. The huge loss of life was contributed to by the ship’s officers not ensuring all lifeboats were filled before lowering. Many more could have been saved if not for that. And most who died that night died of hypothermia, not drowning; the water was only 2 degrees above freezing, so 15-30 minutes is all anyone could last if unable to get out of the water.
Arguments may be made on many things; there are many excellent books on the subject published over many years. Among the best are two by Walter Lord - A Night To Remember and The Night Lives On. His study of the two investigation findings and transcripts, interviews of eye witnesses, and examination of evidence is excellent.
A good try, but you need to be aware that the half-baked conspiracists who infest these sites are not interested in facts or reason. They have simply watched a video or two, have appointed themselves experts, and are impervious to discussion or debate.
I loved what you had to say about this. I’d looked at that too and it was a chain of events that took place, that caused this. Had they had enough life boats for every passenger, they could have saved almost everyone, if not everyone. Those life boats being dropped 1/2 full was awful. 😢
I agree with everything you said except the steering around the berg part. One couldn't be sure of the width of the berg so trying to steer around it to avoid the impact was a bad decision anyway. Had the captain heeded to the earlier warnings and not be heading into the ice full-throttle (though not an uncommon practice during the time in ordinary circumstances, but the situation was not ordinary here) there was a possibility to effectively slow down the ship enough and take the berg head on. There are ships that collided with bergs head on and acquired minimal damages, certainly didn't sink. But the speed was the limiting factor to pull this one off. So now we're only looking at the minimizing the casualties factor, which as you pointed out, boils down to the untrained crew with their pathetic job at lifeboats managing. Re Californian: this nasty ship and its captain can't be forgiven, they saw everything and did nothing. Bastards
It's wrong,the eyewitness has said that the ship sank the next day at 2.30 afternoon,they were told by the crew that they could have breakfast & then take the lifeboats
@@sanaaa7539 Titanic struck the iceberg at just after 11.30 pm, shortly before midnight. She sank at 2.20 am. It took about 2 1/2 hours for her to sink. I’m not sure what ship you’re referring to, but it clearly isn’t RMS Titanic.
I would never get tired of listening to Titanic. R I P. beautiful souls so sad❤
Well done! My mom had lunch with Millvina Dean.... pix & autographs. I personally touched a retrieved section of her hull at an Exibition by sneaking past the cameras. I was hooked when reading "A Night To Remember" in 4th grade. I'm in my late 60s now... and obsessed with her more than ever.
The TitanIc isn't the greatest maritime disaster, although over a thousand souls died aboard. It was the MV Wilhelm Gustloff, a German ship used in Operation Hannibal that was the worst. She was overloaded, overcrowded and steaming through a shipping lane with all lights turned off. In the area was a russian submarine, which ended up sinking her. The Gustloff turned her navigation lights on due to the fact another shop was reported coming the opposite way, and they wanted to avoid a collision. When spotted, she was fired at three times, with one torpedo jamming in it's tube causing it to retreat. When the other torpedos hit their mark, power went first, making it pitch black aside from emergency lights, the cold conditions of the Baltic Sea not helping. Her escort vessels dropped down boats, rings and lines to help survivors. One of the vessels, the Lőwe dropped depth charges incase the submarine came near, instead killing more and more survivors. In the end, the death toll reached upwards of 9,000.
That's interesting, I didn't know. Thanks for the information.
Without sounding mean..its Russians attacking germans..that isn't more interesting than titanic is it
@Laugh Out Loud Studios And on its maiden voyage too.
Not to mention, it was an infirmary ship. most of the people were injured and suffering, hoping to find safety. it's truly devastating
You often hear Titanic referred to as the greatest Peacetime disaster perhaps partly because war involves actively trying to bring about deaths and so it has to be looked at differently.
We were taught the Titanic story in school, as some of the graves are where I'm from. I still can't get enough of it.
Any documentary of Titanic is incomplete without that music which we all love deep in our heart.. ❤
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Rest in peace to all the people that lost their lives on the Titanic 😪
95% were men but that's not something today's media wants to hear.
You mean float in pieces
There is no one to blame for the disaster.
Slag is weaker than iron. However, the slag-rivets was punched into titanic in a wrong way, making the slag even weaker.
But you can't blame the one/ones who ordered titanic to be built that way, they didnt know that slag-rivets got weaker by being punched that way. in laboratory, the
slag-rivets built in a wrong way failed at about 10 000 oif pressure. However, even iron-rivets built in a right way, couldn't take 14 000 of pressure in the laboratory.
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This one was very interesting. I learned some new things about the Titanic in this doc.
As someone who has been completely obsessed with all things Titanic and watched way too many documentaries for some reason i always hope the end is different
Same here💔
Do you have an opinion as to what happened or do you generally agree with the official story?
@@LanceSolo72 The way your question is worded gives the impression you don`t agree with it.
@@aj6954 remind me what my question was... I only see my wreath comment here
@@LanceSolo72 Eli says he`s completely obsessed with all things Titanic, you asked him if he has an opinion as to what happened or whether he generally agrees with the official story. I suspect many don`t even know there is an alternative version.
My interest in this ship will never go away and I don’t know why
That's how I feel....I wonder if maybe we had family aboard this beautiful ship and maybe that's what it is...but since I was young and knew about her I've been in love with this srory..such a sad tragedy that happened to all them innocent ppl.....
For me it’s because it represent the most clear example of human pride away from God.
They thought they could do only with human power and disregard God’s protection.
Big fail! That ship was cursed even before it hit water. I can tell you that.
God is the Power behind every element that surrounds us. Water, wind, fire, you name it.
Hope you have found yourself under His Grace.
If not, perhaps this is your moment to reflect on your actions driven by human pride and come to His path. He is waiting for you with open arms. 👍
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The mechanic and historic details are indeed fascinating, but they do not excuse the Captain being careless. There’s a reason you have the Captain, to make decisions and adapt. He ignored warnings, did no drill and kept speed high. In short, he hit an iceberg.
Captain Smith bought the "unsinkable" line and coasted on that voyage as if already retired...
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the thoughts of the all those children and moms shatters my heart!!!!!!!
That’s basically all that survived was children and moms. As men just had to accept death.
@@mysterycomment1553 Yeah it was the thing to do back then. Men were suppose to go down with the ship. Why the captain Smith and many other did.
@@befrugalwithus men didn’t have to go down with the ship. Just the captain is last to leave the ship.
@@befrugalwithus not true. The message from smith was misinterpreted. Some thought he meant women and children only so only let women and children and sent off lifeboats with space for men if no more women and children could be found to board. Others allowed men to get on the boats after women and children.
I have been interested in this story ever since I was a child. I never grow tired of hearing about it. It’s interesting from a psychological perspective for sure y’all…
I don’t think I ever knew the weight of the iceberg. That kinda just blew me away.
I can't help but feel that when they said "not even GOD can sink it" had something to do with this tragedy
ya good point
GOD in this case was J P Morgan. You mess with him, he`s gonna mess with you.
it was no god that did this, it was human arrogance. Overconfidence in the ship lead to a series of bad decisions that ended up costing thousands of lives.
@Derrick Bridges reading your comments hurt my brain
God....hold my beer.
Thanks for sharing very informative. So sad people lost there lives that night.
The captain of the ship was warned 12 times about icebergs in the area where the ship was headed, the captain ignored the warnings, there was time enough for them to re route had captain taken the warnings seriously. The captain was responsible for the lives of those on board the ship.
Absolutely true i igree with you
He was under immense pressure to get the ship to NY as fast as possible and certainly paid the ultimate price. He probably didn't think the ship could sink so quickly and knew how many corners were cut in the design. He certainly had some responsibility, but there were many more people to blame as well.
You really think the ship was the Titanic and it hit an iceberg. Lol you just went with the story told to you and never bother to research
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What research have you done ?
Please tell
Look into the Olympic ship. The titanics sister ship. It's alleged that the Olympic and titanic were switched as they were being fixed side by side and are nearly identical.
Interesting how the Olympic kept getting broken while the titanic was being built so they would take parts from the titanic and put them on the Olympic. They say that the Olympic was unfixable and the owner couldn't get insurance because the Olympic was at fault so he switched them so that the Olympic would sink as the titanic and he would get the insurance money. The ships nearby were supposed to save everyone before it sank but the titanic sank to fast. Hence why the captain of the titanic did what he did
I think I would have died from fear 😨 great documentary! 👌🏽
The Titanic met or exceeded the safety standards for that time. Notice, after the Titanic disaster the rules for safety changed. Lightoller, had a boat and helped take British troops out of Dunkirk during WWll. Very good presentation.
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The olympic performed flawlessly for 25 years..the fault was not the design, but that her crew ran her into an iceberg at 30 miles per hour
Where you getting 30mph from??? Titanic maxed out on 21 knots which is 24mph
I could watch this documentary 10x a day n still want more
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Just like today.....In 1912 "money" was what makes a person's life important.
True but very unfortunate
Won't matter in afterlife. But I want to be buried with a silver coin just incase. 😂😂😂😂
What are you on about? Did you not watch it?
A lot of women and children from third class made it to the lifeboats. One of them is still the last living survivor in early 2010s. Still alive. 55:30.
Stop bringing class here.
@@castle_novelist ignorant
@@thomasjensen6243 You're triggered easily.
I watched 'Raise the Titanic' that was panned by press and public. But when you hear that music and see her rising from the sea it's hard not to think ..."IF ONLY ..." But she will rest with the other souls she could not carry to their proposed destination. She was indeed a glorious vessel and deserved so much better.
I have the book & watch the movie whenever it is available. I know exactly what you mean about the music & seeing her rise from the waves. I must admit I alway shed a few tears for the "what if's" & "if only's".
@@dianawingate8887 So true. Thanks for sharing - nice to know I'm not alone🙏
I saw "Raise the Titanic" at the Odeon cinema, Tunbridge Wells, Kent. Back in about 1977.
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My great grandfather albert horswill was a crewman on rms titanic and survived the wreck on lifeboat one along with the Duff Gordons who the press accused of bribing him and six other crewmen on to not return to site and pickup passengers in the freezing water. This was not true , it was a kind gesture to the men to compensate them for lost wages. White Star quit paying the crew the moment the ship went down.
Correct.
Why didn't they try to trow more wood from the cabbins in the water so more people could have survived floating on the wood or used the lifeboats as a fairy to the iceberg unload the boat and go for more people in the water🤔🤔🤔🤔😪😪😪
@Casey Gabriel actually that particular iceberg was photographed the next day by someone on the Carpathia when they went back to the area where Titanic sank. It would have been a very cold wait on that ice.
not to mention they were shooting flairs and the clowns on cali thought they were partyin.
@@furryp2402 Well... We don't actually know that. There's been a _lot_ of iceberg photos claimed to be that of the one which dealt the fatal blow, but almost none of them can be verified to be *the* iceberg.
Fantastic documentary!😊
I've watched at least 3 Titanic movies, dozens and dozens of documentaries. Every time.. the ship sinks. I know how it ends. But I keep watching them anyway. I must be obsessed.
I used to watch this video years ago, thanks for the reupload
I thought this was a recent documentary
@@paddycaldwell82 It wasn't, it was around since 2013
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I love how time goes on new evidence contradicts any 'solutions' that came before. You need to be able to watch all the documentaries in chronological order to see how thoughts have changed and how new evidence has influenced this!
Wrong. The "bad metal" argument is very old and has been disproven.
@Michelle Rodriquez Not disproven, so much as the studies never said what pop media said it did. The metal is brittle in cold water, and is weak _compared to modern day steel._ This shouldn't be a surprise; metallurgy *vastly* improved after WW2. Compared to steel of 1910-1912 however, it was perfectly ordinary steel, and was of the quality most ships of the day would have used.
However, "Metal of 1912 worse than metal of the mid 90's" is not a gripping headline.
I this documentary came out in 2008-2009
The theory that they should've slowed down/reversed the ship & took the iceberg head on was the best theory imo. It would've held the ship up longer until the other ships arrived to help. And probably could've towed the Titanic in
@@malecadam8182 seamen are taught to try to avoid collisions. Turning and stopping the engines was the correct solution.
Hitting the iceberg head on, the titanic would have crushed the first 80 to 110ft of the bow section and most likely survived. BUT the bow section contained the off duty firemen and trimmers (2/3 of the them) most likely killing most of them….
I was watching old music videos and ended up here somehow. Nice to watch. Thank you.
I’m at the shop yard in Belfast rn and it’s crazy how the idea and the build of the titanic is right in front of me this second
Having experienced hypothermia myself, I can honestly say that it wasn't too bad. I was about 12 or 13 at the time and remember feeling very tired but not cold. Just wanting to go to sleep. I actually felt very comfortable and remember laying in the snow and it feeling like a soft blanket. I became so very tired I just could have gone to sleep very easily and there was also a feeling of great calm that came over me. Fortunately, people around me keeping me moving. So if I had a choice I think dying of cold and hypothermia wouldn't be as bad as actually drowning.
As an EMT ive always understood hypothermia as the most peaceful way to go of them bc of exactly what you just said. I'm wondering if he just meant that initial shock is painful but he also said that it was a terrible way but i think your experience is more accurate and is definitely not as painful as being burned or drowning which all could have and probably did happen on the titanic
Choosing between drowning or freezing to death in the middle of the Atlantic in the dead of winter experiencing the absolute terror those ppl went thur I'd say it's no choice at all....F drowning. Ur body forcing u to inhale water and that pain & horror of drowning...no ty , pls NO 🙏
Drowning wasn't the primary cause. When immersed in freezing/below freezing water, B/P drops extremely low, resps and heart rate increase to overcome it, which overburdens the heart. The heart rate increases so high that the heart muscle can no longer receive the electric conductivity it needs to beat rhythmically. Heart muscle quivers instead of beating, is not receiving enough blood flow, causing a heart attack.
You were probably pissed at people waking you up from death/sleep.
@@MamaofaWrestler okay but if this true . why aren't ice baths we see celebs doing causing increase in heart attacks ? surley its the same shock to body. Except they do it without the layers of clothing !
Thankyou for presenting the details as you did. Now the full story which lead to the sad disaster is known. An excellent documentary, very well put together. Thanks, again.
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Such an incredible story. And to think; it could all have been avoided.
So very sad.
My sympathy goes out to every passenger and crew member that lost their lives that night. However, the crew member that I feel the most sympathy for is radio operator Jack Phillips. That dude was up for almost 2 days straight, dealing with a backlog of passenger messages, and then, most likely exhausted to the point where he was going to pass out, had to frantically call for help, and even kept trying to call for help up until basically the very end, sacrificing his own life in the process.
So what he should have maybe had a rest or spoke out, in fact he was one of the main protagonists
@@hardsam68 not sure if it was that easy back then but he def shouldn’t have yelled at them for sending the ice warning
There’s a memorial cluster for him in godalming uk , it’s a lovely little area xxx
@@jillmarie3841 I completely agree that he shouldn't have yelled at the Californian like that, but I can understand why it happened. He was very tired, when all of a sudden, he gets a sharp ring in his ear. That would piss anybody off when they're tired. I would most likely be angry as well.
Not really. Philips received an ice warning yet he indicated it as 'non urgent' and did not give the message to the captain. Phillips giving that message to the captain could have made a big difference tho.
“The Greatest Maritime Loss In Modern History”
The Wilhelm Gustloff: Am I a joke to you?
@Aeneas To say it was the "greatest loss in modern maritime history," is a generality.
This is misleading to anybody who is not aware of other maritime disasters, be they in peacetime or in times of war, especially when the Wilhelm Gustloff went down with between 9,000 to 10,000 people losing their lives.
Perhaps documentaries like this should check their facts more closely.
@@sylvester9044 I have found a lot of incorrect facts and very misleading statements in this film
During war or peace a ship going down with most or all people on board is tragic. Some are well remembered like the HMS Hood and Bismarck others like the Wilhelm Gustloff and the RMS Empress of Ireland are not as well known. As far as most tragic due to the loss of 1,012 people and the fact the RMS Empress of Ireland was so close to shore at the time is among the worse.
@Philip Matrix What a prime piece of humanity you are.
The Empress of Ireland
As time goes on, and Titanic dissolves at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean, I feel it still has a story that has drawn me in. Somehow, I've been touched by Titanic... and like so many others, I need to find out more and more...
The crazy thing is there are still many treasures that lie at the bottom of the ocean..But due to the pressure of the depths below they say they are unable to reach them at this time.
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@@linamarie84 I would go down there, only that heart was in yellow color, but it was blue sapphire 😂😂😂😂😂😂
This information is ground breaking. They should make a movie about this
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I've been obsessed with this tragedy since I was 13..im 38 now.
Same I’m 33 and I’m very obsessed as well
It's sweet that they still throw wreaths for them. Rest in peace to everyone who passed 😿💔
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It should be noted that a ship's bow is designed to survive the ship striking something. A ship's sides are designed to BE struck by something. Since theoretically a side crash would open as many as two compartments, the Titanic was very well designed to be able to survive a four compartment breach. Five or more were just too much.
They say if it hit head on there wouldn't have been as much damage and everyone would've survived. Hard to make that call at a split seconds thinking.
@@titopuente6149 There are different theories on whether the ship would have survived. That everyone would have survived is definitely wrong. Immediately, all the crew and especially third class passengers housed in the bow section would have been killed. The force of the ship moving at 21 knots hitting an immovable object would have, without warning, thrown passengers and crew all over the ship with many more being injured or killed.
That said, every officer sailing would do everything could to avoid a collision. Hitting the iceberg head on would have had to be purely accidental.
@@falcon664 seen a doc on this before and as far as I remember there was no cabins toward the very front of the bow but you are right, the workers below deck would have been killed instantly and possible a number of passengers but she wouldn't have sank. Even if the worst damage imaginable happend to her bow she would've only flooded the very first front compartment and she could take on flooding in 4. I think it would have been far less tragic in terms of loss of life but then how do you explain at an enquiry you deliberetly rammed an ice berg not knowing the disaster you avoided. Hindsight is always 20/20.
Who’s here now, after seeing the Titan sub go down, after the 5 died from viewing the titanic?!
I just realized about icebergs breaking loose from over 100 years ago DID WE HAVE GLOBAL WARMING THEN???????
I am! And as a recently Retired Navy Vet, I’ve done tours on 2 Aircraft Carriers, so this Documentary was very interesting. (Btw, Marines were always with us when the Ship deployed, we love Marines!) 😊
I forgot how much my childhood in the 80s and 90s was being obsessed with the titanic until the titan sank. This time I go down the rabbit hole I have internet.
I am again, but I’ve always love to hear about the titanic
In such a hostile environment with absolutely no room for error it seemed such a negligent waste of life due to self indulgence. RIP.
It’s a fascinating and tragic story. I don’t think the tale will ever go away.
It won’t.
When the Titanic was first discovered, they sent an ROV to examine the gash made by the iceberg. They didi find the ruptured plates, but no gash just as reported in this video. What they did find, and I remember watching this on TV, they found a 20 foot circular hole that they could drive through to the interior. They surmised that a large piece of iceberg had penetrated then broke off inside the ship. But there were no inward caving metal plates. All the plates around the hole were pushed outward as if by a blast from inside the hull. Not covered in this documentary are the accounts of survivors who swore they heard and felt a muffled explosion at the moment of.impact
I suppose you can remember the name of this programme, as it contradicts the reports from every actual expedition team?
Could be one of those Brightside videos that the Historic Travel guy is getting all worked up about.
False
That sounds like a bomb.
The amount of things that had to happen for this to occur, is unbelievable.
You’ll get your headlines Mr. Ismay
This is the best done investigational documentary on the Titanic that I have seen. It’s the first one that made me cry, too.
I think you will see all the factors; but one factor that stood out to me is that Mr . Phillips did not have any ability to prioritize what should be more important. His sole act of not relaying that utmost important message/warning sank the Titanic . I’m not sorry that he didn’t make it.
The metallurgic information relayed by the lady engineer was what made this so fascinating.
Cutting corners on rivets; cutting corners on safety/ lifeboats; and changing bulkheads for looks??? No binoculars/or back-up binoculars???
Maybe the Titanic could have sailed many years. Even with these problems;; Phillips sank her.
Actually, the Titanic, thanks to J. Bruce Ismay's idiotic meddling and changing of her design, is solely the blame as he doomed the ship before her keel was even laid. Phillips was just a typical "company" man who realized too late that he had screwed up!
Harland and Wolff never cut corners on any of the ships she built. It had a specific contract with White Star. It charged White Star for expenses incurred in the building of the ship, plus a specific amount for profit. Thus, they gained nothing by cutting corners. As well, White Star never challenged or complained about anything they were ever charged by the builders.
The issue with Phillips and Bride not prioritizing messages came from a few factors.
1) They weren't employees of White Star. They worked for the Marconi company, which made money by charging passengers to send and receive wireless messages. Phillips and Bride, if they wanted to get paid, had to work on those. Messages to and from other ships were secondary. As well, they weren't navigators so they didn't appreciate the significance of ice warnings. (i.e. They knew ice was a hazard, but didn't understand that the ship was already in the areas listed in the warnings. Latitude and longitude readings likely meant nothing to them.)
2) Nobody on the ship (or likely any ship at that time) really recognized the value of wireless as a navigation tool. Captain Smith, most of his officers, and officers on all other ships had spent most of their careers sailing without any wireless at all. They likely trusted their experience and instincts over a newfangled gadget.
3) There was really no set procedure for handling ice messages. Messages specifically addressed to Captain Smith were taken to him right away. Messages addressed to the ship itself were brought to the bridge when they had an opportunity to do so. That harkened back to the bridge officers not really appreciating the value of wireless as a navigation aid.
As for binoculars, they'd be useless at night for spotting anything. They enhance range but narrow scope. They would not help lookouts spot breaks in the horizon, which is really the only thing they could look for on such a calm, dark night.
i think it's unfair, for lack of a better word, to blame one man for the sinking of the ship. this documentary portrays more than several reasons for the disaster, and blaming it on something that was never confirmed nor denied just seems, again, for lack of a better word, unfair. since phillips is dead, we'll never truly know if he did or did not deliver that ice warning to the deck. the catastrophe was set into action long before anyone even boarded the ship. with the use of medium strength rivets, the course of the iceberg, and ignoring the ice warnings all put the disaster's chain of events into play. many of your claims were very true, but i personally feel as though it certainly couldn't have been the fault of one man whom we have no knowledge of the actions he took. (unrelated but you seem like a really cool person! lol)
It wasn't all, or even mostly, Phillip's fault. The crew knew there was ice around, and Smith, as the Captain, bears more fault - for example, he could have gone and talked to Philips directly that evening. But if Phillips had listened to that one critical message from the Californian, and taken it to the bridge, things might have been different.
Philips did nothing wrong. He did not tell the Californian to 'shut up'. He sent an abbreviation that meant 'stop sending'. This was common practice amongst Radio Officers and Philips did so because he was already working Cape Race.