POV: A Look at Peep Show's Pilot Script
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
- A look at the 'Warring Factions' script for POV, which would eventually be renamed to Peep Show, in which I look at the differences between this early script and the finalised episode that was eventually broadcast.
The full script can be found here: sotcaa.org/edit...
I think the point of Jez 'name dropping' Dr Tang is not because Dr Tang is some important person/character but rather by Jez saying 'So I didn't give him the number for Dr Tang...' it shows us that Jez did actually know the name/details of the doctor. That is, it confirms Jez maliciously withheld the information, rather then he just couldn't remeber or didn't know the information.
Pedge is one of their mates from Dartmouth Uni. Ain't no quim likes to party, like the quim down in Darty.
I was hoping for a Peep Show Mysteries on old Pedge...
@@QuadMochaMatti Can't remember if the job at HMV was in the same timeline as the houseboat but maybe he hit the big time, lived it large on the Camden Canal. I'd imagine he is a weird mix of Jez nad Mark. Likes to party, in a band but does well at his steady job at HMV (or wherever he ended up)
@@QuadMochaMatti me too!
"Every egg under the word bird" makes me fucking die every time I hear it
Yes Andrew. The Peep Show madman.
Big mad Andrew ...
What we know about Pedge is that Mark & Jez knew him at Darty. Jez likes him & they used to pull each other off. Mark dislikes him.
And his houseboat is never gonna be released from Customs in Rotterdam.
And he wouldn't take Merry off their hands; he works at HMV.
Also he gave his wife that aggressive yeast infection
You've commented on it a couple of times in videos, so let me clear this up: Toni is wearing a qipao, not a kimono. This is because Chinoiserie (literally Chinese-style) was in fashion in the early 2000s. You can see MJ wear the same kind of dress in Spider-Man, also from 2002. She's definitely the kind of character to jump on a bold, faux-bohemian fashion trend so it makes sense for her character, but it's also probably why the American pilots didn't copy this - it was totally passé in 2005. They definitely could have modernised it to incorporate boho-chic instead. You can really picture her in a fur gilet and tiered skirt, lol.
Yeah I'm quite surprised he doesn't know what a kimono looks like (or I guess in this case, doesn't look like).
yeah i thought that was weird, two videos he calls it a 'weird japanese kimono thing' where its just like a normal chinese dress, which people wear pretty often, especially around the time the show was made, but would be totally normal now too
Hes not quite familiar with what was largely a fashion trend 20 years ago. Calling it weird is a bit off but can't blame him for not knowing the difference.
King Cockmuncher is an Insult used by one of Matt King's Characters in his Sketch show 'Dogface' in Episode 1. Fun Fact
What do you mean 'we don't know how Mark and Jez know Pej' ? ... They went to Uni at Darty together!
I feel I'm one of many people who have just discovered your channel. A well deserved congratulations.
‘what? sting blew his own uncle?’ that’s a genius line and i’ve no idea why they would cut it
Yeah, I giggled at that and am bummed most people will never see/hear that joke.
While you were talking about 'Paul' I started thinking 'Ooh, bit like Pedge' - and then you reference Pedge almost immediately. This is why I love your channel!
I think it'd be interesting to see an edit of the final episode with the original music choices to see roughly how it would've ended up, because I'm struggling to imagine quite a few of them
They mentioned 'Paul' in the 'Mark's School Report' in the Peep Show script book as his only friend at school. If it's the same one as in this script, maybe they were thinking of bringing him in a Mark's friend [like Super Hans' is for Jez] but dropped that idea when Johnson came along with it's more interesting dynamic.
It's "Outrageous", not "So Futile". Everyone knows that
I've seen "twot" used in older books and comics from the 1950s
The "is it Jamie Oliver" line by Davina is actually quality. I imagine the other guests telling her things like "someone who suck's d**k" - and for some reason she guessed it was Jamie! Perfect contribution to the show.
I love your Passion for Percussion i mean Peep Show
Paul gets name dropped again in the series 1-5 scripts and more book. If you check out Mark's report card from his school, it says "I understand he has even made a friend, Paul Kelper, with whom he plays fantasy role-play games." Pretty cool eh?
Exactly.
Ah, so Mark has been interested in role-playing before Gerard got him onto it.
@@k-leb4671 I remember David Mitchell saying Mark has always been into 'nerd' culture [he has that fantasy magazine in episode 2 which Jez...uses for inspiration!] and if he admitted that to himself like Gerard does, he'd be a lot happier-but as he doesn't he remains uptight self loathing Mark we know and love!
Fucking brilliant. I am an American who has watched every Peep Show episode maybe 10 times (if you stitched all the clips together) and your analysis has completely nailed it
The toddler pulling on the hair sounds like something straight out of the final season 😬 Sophie sitting on his hand is so much more relatable
You’re much more relatable, mate, if anyone is...
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If I remember correctly, Mark also drinks cans of Holsten when he's 'healing and growing' via chainsmoking on the sofa. Whatever series that was, definitely earlier than series 8 but I can't be fucked to look it up
Series 1, Ep 5
Never thought I'd find more stuff about peep show to satisfy myself this is amazing, keep it up!
the funny thing about all these referenced characters like european bob and now paul is that its curious to think how many of them are fully realised and actually exist. suze was only namedropped initially haha
The thinking she’s having a fit thing could have been really funny
These peep show deep dives are great. Thanks man!
Great video. American fan of peep show here. I discovered this show about 10 years ago on Netflix and instantly fell in love with it. I’ve got to say if Dr. Dre next episode had played when Tony opened her flat door that would’ve blown my mind 🤯
I guess the vast majority of Americans haven't heard of PS.
@@andrewjones575 you guess correctly. Mitchell and Webb in general aren't very well known. There are plenty of Americans who have heard of them but it's usually people who tend to gravitate towards British media in general
When mark sneaks out on stephanie you can actually hear "moondance" by van morrison playing
There is a Paul who works at JLB, actually. In series 5, Mark says he would fire him instead of the newly pregnant Sophie because he’s a “pain in the arse”, to which Sophie tearfully replies “you would do that for me?”. So apparently Paul is hated by everyone. Maybe Jez gaslit Mark into thinking he was a dick.
All this music probably costs way too much for Channel4 to licence.
I wish I could care about something as much as you care about Peep show. It’s truly commendable
I think we need a mysteries video on Pedge or Pej. Would be fantastic.
It'd be very short. He's never seen or heard & the mentions of him would total about a minute.
where are we going?
further than we've ever gone before
Writing what peice of music you want in a script is usually a big no-no in screenwriting, so seeing this script doing it so casually with background music was quite bizarre.
Obviously there's the money issue you mentioned. But let's take "Sinnerman" for example. If I hadn't heard Sinnerman, before I even read the first action line I've been taken out of the story. Maybe its different for a final version of a sold script, but I have honestly never seen this before.
Charlie Dawson await, what do you mean? You mean it would take the actor reading the script out of the story? How would it take the viewer out of the story?
I kinda like that they specify what music they wanted to play though. The writers had a lot in mind for their show.
Warring factions is forever one of my favourite peep show episodes of the first half of season 1.
"Twot" is the actual American pronunciation of the word twat. The word is used in American English but not very regularly. And it's actually probably being replaced by the British pronunciation. Although in the south we have always said it in the way you do
This channel is amazing! So glad I found it.
I don't think this relates to Mark here, but twot has become US slang, being an acronym of Total Waste of Time. I don't think it's used here in the UK, but could be wrong
That’s news to me, I always assume “twot” was the way Americans said it. I didn’t realise it was suppose to be a completely different word
Wow, I hought I was the biggest peep show obsessive ever, until I found this. Amazing. Regarding music, did you know that Stevie Wonder (or his management) didnt permit the use of "I just called to say, I like you" in THAT episode.
I appreciate these videos so much
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WHO-lee-oh, the J sounds like a H in Espanól. Interesting stuff, particularly the music choices.
I remember when I was a child some old people using “twot” because I think “twit” used to be more insulting (like calling someone a r*tard, as a contraction of “nitwit”). Obviously “twat” has always been a bit rude haha.
Edit: and also I think originally the term was “king cockmuncher”, not just king.
Edit edit: another one was saying “get” instead of “git”. Same deal.
"Twot" is the standard American way of saying twat, unless you're southern. Although I have noticed that younger tend to use the UK pronunciation more, if they ever say the word at all
Thank you for pointing out the "king cockmuncher" bit. Was driving me a bit wild that Andrew missed that.
Didn’t pej go to Dartmouth with mark and jez
I very strongly remember this show being called P.O.V. in America when if first streamed here, but for the life of me I can’t find anything with that title card or name. Does anyone else remember this?
I've read that's the working title for the show, so could be?
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get high all the time.
Why are 2 PS eps - s2 e6 & s4 e6 - both called Wedding? That's confusing & makes no sense. They should have called them Jez' wedding & Mark's Wedding.
never noticed this, how odd! especially considering there is quantocking 2
@@Hazelcake They could have called them Wedding & Wedding 2. The latter is the most popular PS ep on IMDb.
I’ve heard twot used before.
Paul could be a uni friend who shared a house with Mark
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They know pedge from uni
And she lives on a boat or something
@@keithp6699 His houseboat is in Rotterdam.
@@keithp6699 I think pledge means boat house as well lol
I've heard "twot" before, I always assumed it was American for twat or something...
EDIT: just googled it. Apparently "twot" is the original pronunciation, and is indeed the most common in America (but almost always refers to a woman, rather than being universal like twat)
My friends use it occasionally, just meaning "vagina". I know "twat" means that too, but it isn't used literally much, I guess "twot" sounds a bit less vulgar. The female version of "cock blocking" is "twot blocking", but I have no idea if that exists beyond my friend group.
@@mankytoes hahaha I've never heard that, I like the alliteration 😂😂 gonna make sure all my female friends start using that
@@mankytoes I've only heard 'twot' being used by Americans. In addition to referring to female genitals, twat also means a person who is stupid or unpleasant. It's also a verb, meaning to hit something hard.
I've never heard of twot-blocking. In the excellent Channel 4 sitcom Drifters, Bunny repeatedly accuses Meg of fanny-blocking her.
twot is a fictional swear that comes from red dwarf
Twonk. Not twot.
HA I've always hated it when kiwis say twot. But maybe Londoners do too.
"Oh please shut up about Peter Gabriel"
i say twot occasionally
AI is still far from perfect, the robot doing voiceover here is the best proof.
11:55 I think you missed the whole doctor part at the beginning of that episode.
The POV soundtrack was TERRIBLE. Thank god they changed the songs.