That is a great idea, it could have been amazing (depending on the writing, of course) , especially when Hans is high, and we see how the world then looks to him, and how he misunderstands what is going on and what people are saying to him.
The whole idea of dobby not getting a proper send off is present throughout the whole of peep show, if you look at the last lines of the majority of the side characters they’re all lines you wouldn’t expect to be farewells. I think this is pretty true to real life as you tend to just drift apart from people and rarely know that it’s the last time you’re speaking to someone
Dobby isn't a side character - she's a main character in s5, 6, 7 & 8. She's s8's only major female character. Drifting apart is usually gradual. Dobby briefly returning in s9 makes no sense. She got a good send-off at the end of s8 by moving to NY.
Yeah I don't think any love interest got a proper send off. They all just dissapered. Dobby's send off is the most noticeable but is the only controversial one. I did like Nancy's send off that was foreshadowed in Wedding though.
@@shearman360 Bizarrely, Sophie is absent from s8 despite being a major character in s1-7. She returns for 1 ep of s9. There are 2 eps named Wedding - s2 e6 & s4 e6 - which one do you mean?
I can agree with this. It’s clear that Dobby moved on, and if we’re looking for a motive I think this was just her last ditch chance to kind of see everybody and say bye in her own way. You can definitely see it when Mark looks over at her and Gregory and criticizes him for being on his phone, but she shows she likes him anyway. She was over Mark‘s neuroses and awkwardness and wanted something new. It’s pretty realistic.
@@miguelalbarracin9077 It's bizarre that Dobby would spend so much time, money & effort to merely say goodbye. She's never popular. Gerard having died before she left meant that the only person in the UK whom she'd been close to whom she would see would be Mark, whom she stopped liking before she left.
I wish he was re-cast as the therapist Jez goes to visit in Series 8. That scene would have been better with some back and forth dialogue instead of Jez freaking out and leaving.
Dobby & Gregory making a 6,000-mile round trip to go to the wedding of Hans & Molly is ridiculous. Dobby's connection to Hans is remote - he's her ex-BF's best friend's other friend. Hans is a complete stranger to Gregory. Molly is a complete stranger to both Dobby & Gregory.
It's a bit like Sophie going to Gail and Elena's wedding in series 6 [with the couple even renting a house for her] when they have no connection to each other [apart from Sophie buying weed from Elena once!]
@@jamesatkinsonja We don't even know if Elena marries Gail. They plan to marry & housesit in Quebec, but Elena leaves PS at the end of s6 & Gail never mentions her after that. Why do you say that they marry & rent a house for Sophie?
@@davidz2808 He means for the wedding, they not only invited her (as she is there with Mark and Jez) but also paid for her and them to stay in a cottage, pretty damn expensive when you consider even normal hotel rooms for stack up massively for weddings... Maybe Gail was making bank or something.
Quantocking II is my personal least favourite. The sudden love triangle between Mark, Jez & Dobby feels so contrived, like writers needed a way to quickly write Dobby out of the show. Mark & Jez's consistent bickering isn't funny either, more so annoying. Dobby just vanishing and sending Mark a text that she's leaving was just absolutely laughable and pathetic, especially since she's been a mainstake on the show for multiple seasons at this point.
Having rewatched S8 and S9 again recently, I agree. Quantocking II is the worst. Gregory's Beard is a bad episode, but it still has its moments. Quantocking II isn't even funny
I always felt that Mark and Jez's relationship was always funny and interesting because on some level they are friends, even though they also resent and sabotage each other. Quantocking II they have no redeeming friendship, it's just nasty selfishness all the time with no punchline, leading to that incredibly poorly written ending that makes no logical sense.
The heating bit is funny in the end because when Jeremy is trying to ‘tell’ Mark about his sexual encounter with a guy, Mark’s only concern is the temperature of the room in Jeremy’s story.
Don't you find that scene to be not really though out though? Why would Jez make such a big deal about talking to Mark about this when he otherwise admits, both before and after this episode, that he has always been bi? It is a scene that would be funny in a vacuum, but in the context of the show doesn't really work.
@@HisRoyalFreshness163 I always got the impression that Jez considered himself herero-flexible before. He only really chased women but wouldn't necessarily shy away from a gay encounter. However, with Joe, he actually found himself having feelings for another guy and for the first time relised he may be bisexual.
Usually scenes which are genuinely funny, don't need an explanation as to why they are. Like if I bring up the Conference episode, it needs no further elaboration
It's like they leaned in so hard on making "Gregory" unlikable he just became a composite of irritating traits with no characterization - he's just there to be a hateful foil to Mark. And, maybe show that Dobby is generally attracted to complete arseholes.
@@jamesatkinsonja I liked Natalie, despite her being an unrepentant rapist lol. The Australian woman who manipulated Mark into letting her stay rent free is the worst.
@@zufgh I just didn't like that episode very much and the whole 'is she a lesbian' bit feels dated and crass now. Saz is bad I agree to but I find more humor in that episode with Mark making a fool out of himself.
I disagree that there was anything wrong with Hans just suddenly being about to marry this woman who doesn't seem like someone he'd be with. His character is set up in a way that they're allowed to "cheat" with him- he's suddenly Mark's boss, he's suddenly got twins, etc.
Personally, I'd have written it so that Molly is never seen before Hans asks Mark to be his best man. Have it be completely unknown to anyone that he's even in a relationship, let alone engaged. I think that would've been funnier and would've also fitted in with his spontaneity more. Having her show up in one scene prior to 'introduce her' feels pointless, because we don't actually find anything out, yet it implies they have a more developed history together.
@@axw I'd agree with that, if he was just like "Mark, will you be my best man this weekend, yeah?" that would be good. Then Dobbie could be back for a week, and Hans could just invite her too.
@@axw Hans & Molly never seem suited or even believable as a couple. She's nothing like any of his previous girls. She doesn't want someone who's a drug user, so why would she choose a long-term crack addict?
This is definitely one of the weakest episodes. I've always said Quantocking II is the worst. But they're bad for different reasons. That one is too outlandish, over-the-top bad and poorly written. This one is just a lot more boring and inconsequential. One underrated aspect of this episode though is actually a culmination of a very slow-burning subplot that I feel has been gradually progressing since series 1 - the blossoming of Mark and Hans's friendship. In the early seasons Hans basically hates Mark and considers him an upper class suit (Mr Motivator), while Mark thinks Hans is just a crack addled maniac. But then in series 6 Hans offers Mark work when he needs it, in series 8 Hans trusts Mark in a combat situation, and by series 9 Hans is happy for Mark to be his best man and it seems like they've developed a mutual respect for each other, possibly over the fact that both of them have dragged down by Jez. If Hans had replaced Jez as Mark's flatmate in series 9, I think they both would've been better off. Mark might've helped Hans stay on the wagon and Molly would've certainly liked Mark more than Jez, and Hans by series 9 is considerably more responsible and tuned in than Jez in addition to being in work, so would've almost certainly been better for Mark.
@@jamesatkinsonja for once in my life I've done enough physical labour to merit a high carb meal, but all I'm left with is an indeterminate puck of gristle
I felt Gregory punching Mark just didn't fit in general. I feel the kind of stereotype they're aiming for wouldn't be the type to get physical with someone like that.
Plus there's nowhere to hide with the head cam way of filming. The punches just looked so unconvincing and like a bad stage punch. Mark would also be in so much pain, but instead he was doing weird jokes. Getting full on punched in the face (unlike say Jez hitting Stu as some kind of slap) is genuinely horrible and it just felt tonally wrong to be in the show.
One thing that really gets me in this episode is Dobby complaining to Mark about always just staying in the flat doing nothing when in the Christmas episode Mark literally says that to Dobby and she's so passionate about staying in watching TV box sets
Both Dobby and Sophie have personality shifts because 'the plot says so'. You have Sophie suddenly into partying in 'Jurying' which comes out of no where and the shifts in Dobby to make the 'Jez loves Dobby' plot plausible. I do feel sorry for the actors who had to go along with it [Mitchell and Webb on the Train in Quantocking 2 are trying there best but the scene/scenario is just nonsense].
That's because she's a flawed procrastinator. I know so many people like that. It's more about being able to tell everyone they live at the helm, and hearing themself say that, than actually practicing it.
6:50 to be fair we need to rmemeber that each series of peep show isnt the entire life of the characters. Like dobby and hans didnt interact that much on screen but the fact we know that both of them spent a lot of their free time at jez and marks means they probabaly interacted a lot off screen. Likenin the new years episode where dobby goes to both super hans and big suze's partys. She clearly must have had some kind of decent relationship with both of them to go to the parties without jez or mark
I'd have had Super Hans' wedding as the final episode. It would've been a great way to end the show, bringing loads of old characters together and tying up the loose ends. Plus have an extra episode to work on explaining Hans' relationship and attempt at sobriety. Also scrap Gregory. How about Dobby comes back for the wedding because her job in New York didn't work out and feels depressed by that, sees Mark and wants to give things another go to cheer herself up but he's trying to win April. Some events happen, Mark ends up with neither April nor Dobby.
Or: she comes back, tries to make friends, he tries to hit on her while seemingly with April, and with her higher confidence she actually tears him a new one for only hanging around people to get something from them (sex/romance/a punching bag, etc.). Which, of course, he wouldn't understand, blaming it on America changing her, ending his character arc on the somewhat bleak note that he will never recognise he sabotages his own relationships by dehumanising the people around him. That's my read on Mark, anyway.
This would have been a great premise for a '1 hour special' and a wedding would be a natural place to bring back some old characters [say Toni] and you wouldn't need to bring in loads of thin new characters for a full series.
This is a good shout. The whole April/Angus thing felt like something they just dumped on top of the series at the end. Like it didnt fit with the rest of the series but they wanted to draw it out to be longer. It seemed like a kind of arbitrary choice of people to have return to the series too given how Mark and April parted company years before.
Yeah, I have to agree with you on Gregory. I'm just genuinley not sure what they were trying to do with his character. They talk about him being a hipster but his dialogue is so bland and he doesn't really do anything with the stereotype. When he's punching Mark feels weird too. Nothing about him up until then indicated he was the sort if person who'd do that, if anything I got the impression he was kind chronically apathetic. So it felt like it came out of nowhere.
He is pretty much just there to show Dobbie is 'taken'. I'd rather have her and Mark part as friends and move on rather than end that storyline with a stupid fight.
@@davidz2808 I said “best” not “popular”. Popular means it’s liked by more people, and we all know that you can’t trust people, they like Coldplay and voting for the Nazis.
Always felt that by this point David Mitchell, and especially Robert Webb, were too old to pull off the characters of Mark and Jez by 2015. A lot of what makes Peep Show tick is its use of common social archetypes, and playing off of the subtle nuances of them that people can relate to; a lot of people in the UK in 2003 knew of a 27 year old with a bit of Jez's pseudo-philosophy and failed musical ambition, living with a flatmate in a big city going nowhere in life - but no one in 2015 knew anyone like that at age 40. The archetype that Jez is based around is the archetype of a young man, and though putting an older man into that role could work for a gag, it doesn't provide the same relatability and humour over an entire series. 40 year old Webb doesn't live up to the role anywhere near as much as 30 year old Webb did. Mark as an anxious office drone, unsuccessful with women and naive about love, was also to a lesser extent not played anywhere near as well by Mitchell as he aged, not owing to a decline in his performance but to the fact that he's an older man playing the character of a younger man, like those mid-late 20s actors in netflix teen dramas.
@@rorz999 That may very well be the point of the show, but if it is I don't think it's a very good point. Much of the humour in series 1-4 is grounded, at least for me, in the feasibility of the general situation of the characters lives. And in those earlier series it does seem that there is more progression in Mark and Jez's lives (the build up to the wedding primarily) which only serves to sell the feasibility more. Later series seemingly latch on to the idea of pathetic stagnation and play off of the absurdity, but it comes across increasingly Monty Python-esque as the show goes on and I'm not a huge fan of it.
@@rorz999 agreed. It's not that there are less people like that at 40 compared to 30, it's just that it's all a lot sadder and less funnier at that age.
I do agree that the mark-sophie wedding seems to be the point where the show switches from a very natural study of two realistic people, to a more sit-com based approach. It's like they hit a reset button every season so that Mark and Jez can basically go through the same story line again and again. There's still a ton of decent characters, strong dialogue and hilarious situations. . but as a viewer, i'm very aware of the 'writing' necessary to keep the premise of the show going. But at the same time - as someone in his late 30s - I do also recognise that a lot of people don't 'evolve'. They get fatter, have less energy and are generally more depressed, but still try to live the same life as when they were 20 - even if they have kids now. I suppose the point is that those people really aren't 'funny' any more.
It's interesting because Robert Webb kind of agreed with your point. In an interview he said "It used to be a show about people in their late 20s sharing a flat. By the end it was almost too tragic to be funny. I mean, it was funny - that last series was one of my favourites - but it just becomes a different joke, and a different show, when they're moving into middle age."
That line that Dobby says to Mark about "getting all the weirdness out of the way" and them making noises together really makes my skin crawl and doesn't feel in character for Mark at all
Please do a video about a Peep Show storyline you wish they had done. I can't believe they never did a foreign holiday. Imagine Mark struggling with the sunshine, tourist swindlers and "print the myth" tour guides.
There were two proposals to do exactly that. Series 3 Episode 6 was going to go to Paris but it was changed to the Quantock. The reason Dobby went to New York at the end of Series 8 was that the guys were going to follow her there for a Movie spin off but the plans fell through.
I would love to see a Covid one. I could imagine Mark ranting at Jeremy's poor choice of shopping. Maybe someone like Nancy being stuck in the flat as she is between flats at the moment and Mark freaking out generally.
good points, I still think that Quantocking 2 is the worst one by far. I can still laugh when everyone watches Jez have sex. That said, I agree, the Gregory character is probably the worst in the show's history. His accent is terrible - and as someone who lived in Brooklyn, he doesn't even seem like a send-up of a hipster from 2009. He's just a bland, vague nothing of a character and it's a disappointment that Dobby ended up with someone like him. I always thought it would have been funny if Dobby ended up with someone who looked and acted exactly like Mark, except better in every way.
"His accent is terrible" ctrl-F'd to find this. Hard agree. No sleight to the actor, but he definitely did not sound naturally American at all. More like an alien attempting an American accent. Or more likely, a Northern Irishman.
You could argue Dobby having such an underwhelming exit from the show was on purpose, trying to be depressingly true to how real life goes, old friends/ex partners/acquaintances just drifting apart and never actually saying goodbye to eachother, like how the final episode ends, very realistic and not some happy american sitcom style ending, Jez and Mark have no character development and the show ends with them in the same situation as when the show started all the way back 12 years prior. Alot of the characters are given underwhelming send offs and are never seen again without a proper explanation not just Dobby. We never see Mark and her say goodbye to eachother, theres no real closure. Quantocking 2 is definitely still my least favourite episode I don't laugh at anything in it. Gregory's beard at least has the hitchhiking scene and Jezez best man speech. That scene when Super Hans decides to run back to the hotel in the dark after taking off his shoes for some reason, telling Mark and Dobby to look out for wolves and once he gets a few feet in the distance shouting "oh fuck!" when he steps on something was hilarious.
I wonder if they were going to have Dobby + Gregory be the love triangle with Mark in Series 9, then decided against it which is why April +Angus don't appear until episode 3? Probably not but interesting to consider.
I love the examples you used at 1:21. I’ve never seen some of the actors in anything else but they’re instantly recognisable because of a 30 second cameo. I still quote the bouncer to this day- “Go on, fuck off”
No idea why this is in my reccommended since I haven't watched Peep Show in years but I thought Jeremy discovering his bisexuality was funny and well-written, especially with the best man's speech at the end, which is the main thing I remember about the episode. Episode aside, this video has great pacing and editing, gonna check out your other videos.
Honestly I thought Mark being obsessed with the heating worked as he was obsessed when they got a new boiler and liked the temperature to be a cool 17 and it was a point of contention for him and Jezz and we know Mark is tight with money so it made sense he was scabby with the heating 😂
I think the way the show ends is great and sort of solidifies the theory that they are to be forever stuck in a loop of miserable life, because essentially Jez and Mark can’t be without each other and are destined to always ruin their lives and burn all their bridges. I feel like that exact end of the series, is a predicament they’ve been in before the series even started, and will probably be in again.
Great review. Would you ever do any more of these or do lists of your favourite/least favourite episodes. And maybe lists of favourite one off characters ect
@@DendyJungle it’s actually terrible. It’s like people think that the American accent is just English but nasal? He’s like “YUUU DOOSHBAAEEGG” lol okay, sure. On the other hand, you’ll have characters who pretend to be American in other shows but even when they get the accent right, the writers don’t take into account slang. So you have these faux accents saying stuff like “wow, that’s MASSIVE!” or “Are you getting it sorted?”.
Agreed. The only thing that sounded odd to me was the way Gregory called Mark a "douchebag". I just don't think an American would choose that particular insult during a fist fight lol.
@@luke-da-duke It was like with Nancy. Even her speech sounded sort of odd, even though she is presumably from America. Having British writers even makes characters with American accents sound non-American.
You point out that even the briefest of characters in Peep Show are drawn incredibly well most of the time. I'd never noticed that amongst the oevre of the show, being as high in quality as it usually is, so thank you for that point. Also your issue with the tracking has noticeably stuck out to me since I saw it as being nonsense, and I do think if they'd continued with more series it wouldn't have been long before the show jumped the shark.
Spot on Gregory impression, almost like impressionception of an Englishman (Andrew), doing an impression of a northern Irish man trying to sound American 🤣
It's utterly ironic that my new favourite Andrew video (as of watching this) is about Andrew's least favourite episode! Absolutely smashing work. It was definitely worth a wati!
The final series of Peep Show was definitely my least favourite out of the show. Missed opportunities, awful continuity errors and such an underwhelming ending.
Said it before, but I'd rather they'd have done an hour long special instead of a full series [that way we'd have lost the Mark-April, Jez-Joe-Megan plot's which were never going to amount to much]
As a bit of a geek myself, I really like Dobby from Series 5-7 as she's a geek and doesn't care what people think which appeals to me so I really wanted Mark and her to get together. However, in series 8 they really do a demolition job on the character [with the forced 'Jez loves her' plot] which is such a shame. I know in Peep show 'failure is the only option' but that renders the romantic sub-plots they do in these later shows hard to get invested in as we know they won't go anywhere [series 9 especially]. At least with Sophie and Nancy there was some follow up on the relationships.
The first time I watched the series, I initially chalked up Dobby's drastic changes on Mark's rose tinted view of her wearing off much in the same manner that his view of Sophie changed as he spent more time with her (though that one episode where she convinces Mark to go clubbing and take drugs comes really without warning character arc wise.) But after the second time watching, I figured Dobby's changes was a combination of her realizing Mark's self destructive ways along with the aforementioned but that still leaves some things that don't add up.
@@calecarterii9203 Sophie & Dobby change massively. Sophie has an adventurous side, which is indicated by going to Rainbow Rhythms as well as the gay club.
I found the quality of the webcams being better than that of the laptop's cams believable because their laptops are probably fairly old whereas the webcams Mark placed around the flat are definitely new.
It would make so much more sense if Gregory had just been Simon, an already established character and love rival for Dobby. Mark letting go of his feelings for Dobby would feel way more impactful if it had been to the guy he had been insanely jealous of for the whole of the last two seasons and the audience were already familiar with. Although for me, Mark accidentally filming Jeremy have sex immediately excludes this episode from the “worst episode of Peep Show” conversation. That whole sequence, especially Hans’ reaction, is hilarious. My own least favourite is Handyman, I just find the whole episode extremely painful and not in a funny way, relying way too much on humiliation for me, a rare low point in the otherwise stellar season four. I feel similarly about Burgling, Jurying and Jeremy’s Broke, just extremely uncomfortable and unpleasant to watch. Ditto Mugging, but Michelle pegging Jeremy kind of saves that one. I’m sorry we didn’t get more of Michelle.
Mark’s thing about the heating is very long established though? There’s that episode waaaay back when he asks Sophie if it’s too hot in the apartment and when she says “I guess so” he shouts at Jeremy etc etc Him resorting to webcams and thermometers feels like a very natural peak of this neurosis, especially as these are now 40 y/o men still living together. I think if he’d jumped straight to webcams in the smoking scenario gave in the video it would feel even more contrived Additionally, beyond the handful of partying scenes in earlier seasons we don’t actually see Jeremy being an in-home smoker. Just my take on that particular element though! I also don’t like this episode very much, the only good bit is Jeremy’s best man speech.
Great video as always! Wondered if you could do an analysis on Super Hans and the punk subculture he represents. Thought it could make an interesting episode!
I just rewatched series 9 and I think it’s better than I remembered. There are some great Super Hans moments, the plot line with Mark is great. I think in this episode it’s good the hipster guy isn’t funny. It’s sad Dobby ends up with him, that’s good. And it’s good that Mark gets beating up at the end
Super Hans' wedding should have been an episode narrated from his point of view. Just let us live in his crack-addled head for _one episode._
Too gimmicky
That is a great idea, it could have been amazing (depending on the writing, of course) , especially when Hans is high, and we see how the world then looks to him, and how he misunderstands what is going on and what people are saying to him.
Makes sense on a meta level if we consider Jeremy and Mark's narcissism as thematic.
Would’ve either been terrible or brilliant. The mystery of Super Hans’ mind is part of his appeal.
The whole idea of dobby not getting a proper send off is present throughout the whole of peep show, if you look at the last lines of the majority of the side characters they’re all lines you wouldn’t expect to be farewells. I think this is pretty true to real life as you tend to just drift apart from people and rarely know that it’s the last time you’re speaking to someone
Dobby isn't a side character - she's a main character in s5, 6, 7 & 8. She's s8's only major female character.
Drifting apart is usually gradual.
Dobby briefly returning in s9 makes no sense. She got a good send-off at the end of s8 by moving to NY.
Yeah I don't think any love interest got a proper send off. They all just dissapered. Dobby's send off is the most noticeable but is the only controversial one. I did like Nancy's send off that was foreshadowed in Wedding though.
@@shearman360 Bizarrely, Sophie is absent from s8 despite being a major character in s1-7. She returns for 1 ep of s9.
There are 2 eps named Wedding - s2 e6 & s4 e6 - which one do you mean?
I can agree with this. It’s clear that Dobby moved on, and if we’re looking for a motive I think this was just her last ditch chance to kind of see everybody and say bye in her own way. You can definitely see it when Mark looks over at her and Gregory and criticizes him for being on his phone, but she shows she likes him anyway. She was over Mark‘s neuroses and awkwardness and wanted something new. It’s pretty realistic.
@@miguelalbarracin9077 It's bizarre that Dobby would spend so much time, money & effort to merely say goodbye. She's never popular. Gerard having died before she left meant that the only person in the UK whom she'd been close to whom she would see would be Mark, whom she stopped liking before she left.
But this is the episode where we finally meet the twins after CONSTANTLY hearing Superhans go on about them.
Fan service doesn't make up for lacklustre writing.
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Checked the replies to this comment to see if they really showed the twins. Got my answer. Thanks
Still haven’t forgiven orange for wiping the bloody twins, don’t think I ever will
there's a picture of the twins on hans' fridge in the episode abt the lyric credits (i forget what the ep is called)
The therapist from season one is a miss?? The word association scene is genius!
Fuck, no not fuck
@@roganjosho8924 Mark's answers are hilarious. A hungry, devouring twat!
That scene is one of the only ones that still cracks me up after all this time
I wish he was re-cast as the therapist Jez goes to visit in Series 8. That scene would have been better with some back and forth dialogue instead of Jez freaking out and leaving.
“Money.”
_Everything._
“Not…Everything.”
Dobby & Gregory making a 6,000-mile round trip to go to the wedding of Hans & Molly is ridiculous. Dobby's connection to Hans is remote - he's her ex-BF's best friend's other friend. Hans is a complete stranger to Gregory. Molly is a complete stranger to both Dobby & Gregory.
Social scenarios in Peep Show often feel contrived and strain credulity but this one took the p*ss. I agree.
It's a bit like Sophie going to Gail and Elena's wedding in series 6 [with the couple even renting a house for her] when they have no connection to each other [apart from Sophie buying weed from Elena once!]
@@jamesatkinsonja We don't even know if Elena marries Gail. They plan to marry & housesit in Quebec, but Elena leaves PS at the end of s6 & Gail never mentions her after that. Why do you say that they marry & rent a house for Sophie?
@@davidz2808 He means for the wedding, they not only invited her (as she is there with Mark and Jez) but also paid for her and them to stay in a cottage, pretty damn expensive when you consider even normal hotel rooms for stack up massively for weddings... Maybe Gail was making bank or something.
@@TheMarc1k1 Elena & Gail pay for Jez, Mark & Sophie to stay in a cottage for their wedding that appears to be cancelled? In which ep is that stated?
Quantocking II is my personal least favourite. The sudden love triangle between Mark, Jez & Dobby feels so contrived, like writers needed a way to quickly write Dobby out of the show. Mark & Jez's consistent bickering isn't funny either, more so annoying. Dobby just vanishing and sending Mark a text that she's leaving was just absolutely laughable and pathetic, especially since she's been a mainstake on the show for multiple seasons at this point.
Having rewatched S8 and S9 again recently, I agree. Quantocking II is the worst. Gregory's Beard is a bad episode, but it still has its moments. Quantocking II isn't even funny
I always felt that Mark and Jez's relationship was always funny and interesting because on some level they are friends, even though they also resent and sabotage each other.
Quantocking II they have no redeeming friendship, it's just nasty selfishness all the time with no punchline, leading to that incredibly poorly written ending that makes no logical sense.
The heating bit is funny in the end because when Jeremy is trying to ‘tell’ Mark about his sexual encounter with a guy, Mark’s only concern is the temperature of the room in Jeremy’s story.
Don't you find that scene to be not really though out though? Why would Jez make such a big deal about talking to Mark about this when he otherwise admits, both before and after this episode, that he has always been bi? It is a scene that would be funny in a vacuum, but in the context of the show doesn't really work.
@@HisRoyalFreshness163 I always got the impression that Jez considered himself herero-flexible before. He only really chased women but wouldn't necessarily shy away from a gay encounter. However, with Joe, he actually found himself having feelings for another guy and for the first time relised he may be bisexual.
Meh, it's a bit too overt in my opinion. Mark is CLEARLY indicating he doesn't care, which he doesn't normally do
@@hunnyboi67 How about Jez & Pedge at Darty? It sounds like that lasted a lot longer than Jez & Joe.
Usually scenes which are genuinely funny, don't need an explanation as to why they are. Like if I bring up the Conference episode, it needs no further elaboration
This episode is quite a miss, but _"Hans! Do not murder him!"_ still has me in stitches every time
Marks quote of: "No pressure but go out with me or I'll hang myself." Is gold
Nice name
It does have the line "roomal geography" though.
I always felt Aaron Paul should have played Gregory.
Would have been near perfect, imo.
Omg yes
"Leave Dobby alone, Bitch!"
It's like they leaned in so hard on making "Gregory" unlikable he just became a composite of irritating traits with no characterization - he's just there to be a hateful foil to Mark. And, maybe show that Dobby is generally attracted to complete arseholes.
Is he PS' least entertaining one-off character?
Good point
@@davidz2808 Natalie in 'Jeremy's Mum' is pretty horrible too.
@@jamesatkinsonja I liked Natalie, despite her being an unrepentant rapist lol. The Australian woman who manipulated Mark into letting her stay rent free is the worst.
@@zufgh I just didn't like that episode very much and the whole 'is she a lesbian' bit feels dated and crass now. Saz is bad I agree to but I find more humor in that episode with Mark making a fool out of himself.
you should do the opposite next, pick out your favourite
Good idea
That was 'Conference' from S4
Or Sophie and Marks Wedding
Yeah I think he said it was the conference in the mini-review
the christmas episode is up there. Season 7 | Episode 5
@@mikefingers8909 4,6 wedding, and idk the name but the one with darryl in in series 2 are mine
I disagree that there was anything wrong with Hans just suddenly being about to marry this woman who doesn't seem like someone he'd be with. His character is set up in a way that they're allowed to "cheat" with him- he's suddenly Mark's boss, he's suddenly got twins, etc.
Personally, I'd have written it so that Molly is never seen before Hans asks Mark to be his best man. Have it be completely unknown to anyone that he's even in a relationship, let alone engaged. I think that would've been funnier and would've also fitted in with his spontaneity more. Having her show up in one scene prior to 'introduce her' feels pointless, because we don't actually find anything out, yet it implies they have a more developed history together.
@@axw I'd agree with that, if he was just like "Mark, will you be my best man this weekend, yeah?" that would be good. Then Dobbie could be back for a week, and Hans could just invite her too.
@@axw Hans & Molly never seem suited or even believable as a couple. She's nothing like any of his previous girls. She doesn't want someone who's a drug user, so why would she choose a long-term crack addict?
@@axw That would have been a lot more 'Peep Show'.
This is definitely one of the weakest episodes. I've always said Quantocking II is the worst. But they're bad for different reasons. That one is too outlandish, over-the-top bad and poorly written. This one is just a lot more boring and inconsequential.
One underrated aspect of this episode though is actually a culmination of a very slow-burning subplot that I feel has been gradually progressing since series 1 - the blossoming of Mark and Hans's friendship. In the early seasons Hans basically hates Mark and considers him an upper class suit (Mr Motivator), while Mark thinks Hans is just a crack addled maniac. But then in series 6 Hans offers Mark work when he needs it, in series 8 Hans trusts Mark in a combat situation, and by series 9 Hans is happy for Mark to be his best man and it seems like they've developed a mutual respect for each other, possibly over the fact that both of them have dragged down by Jez.
If Hans had replaced Jez as Mark's flatmate in series 9, I think they both would've been better off. Mark might've helped Hans stay on the wagon and Molly would've certainly liked Mark more than Jez, and Hans by series 9 is considerably more responsible and tuned in than Jez in addition to being in work, so would've almost certainly been better for Mark.
Mark and Hans working together [and Hans being Mark's boss!] was a stroke of genius
@@jamesatkinsonja you can have this little bit of matter
@@jamesatkinsonja You fucked this all right up didn't ya? Answer Me!!!
@@kittaylor5752 I've dropped about 6 social classes since this morning
@@jamesatkinsonja for once in my life I've done enough physical labour to merit a high carb meal, but all I'm left with is an indeterminate puck of gristle
I felt Gregory punching Mark just didn't fit in general. I feel the kind of stereotype they're aiming for wouldn't be the type to get physical with someone like that.
Plus there's nowhere to hide with the head cam way of filming. The punches just looked so unconvincing and like a bad stage punch. Mark would also be in so much pain, but instead he was doing weird jokes. Getting full on punched in the face (unlike say Jez hitting Stu as some kind of slap) is genuinely horrible and it just felt tonally wrong to be in the show.
@@TheLukeCrawfordhis face would be completely dusted, yes, even if those were weak punches. instead he is barely reacting 😂
Seasons 8 and 9 actually feel like a chore to watch for me.
They are. Why it didn't end with the wedding is beyond me. I realise that's 5 more series worth of fees they wouldn't have seen, if that's why.
@@Spectrescup They had already commissioned series 5 while series 4 was being filmed.
Season 8 flows incredibly well up until the finale
One thing that really gets me in this episode is Dobby complaining to Mark about always just staying in the flat doing nothing when in the Christmas episode Mark literally says that to Dobby and she's so passionate about staying in watching TV box sets
There's a six year gap between those episodes?
Both Dobby and Sophie have personality shifts because 'the plot says so'. You have Sophie suddenly into partying in 'Jurying' which comes out of no where and the shifts in Dobby to make the 'Jez loves Dobby' plot plausible. I do feel sorry for the actors who had to go along with it [Mitchell and Webb on the Train in Quantocking 2 are trying there best but the scene/scenario is just nonsense].
And Dobby wanted to 'live life' in series 8 yet she's now dating a jerk who's on his phone a lot. Terrible writing sadly.
That's because she's a flawed procrastinator. I know so many people like that. It's more about being able to tell everyone they live at the helm, and hearing themself say that, than actually practicing it.
@@jamesatkinsonja Actually now that you mention it I always thought Sophie suddenly having a mid-life crisis and becoming a raver was a bizarre twist.
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tbf the "who the fuck are you?" line from mark is pretty funny
6:50 to be fair we need to rmemeber that each series of peep show isnt the entire life of the characters. Like dobby and hans didnt interact that much on screen but the fact we know that both of them spent a lot of their free time at jez and marks means they probabaly interacted a lot off screen.
Likenin the new years episode where dobby goes to both super hans and big suze's partys. She clearly must have had some kind of decent relationship with both of them to go to the parties without jez or mark
And the paintballing episode. They're kinda in the same group if ykwim
I'd have had Super Hans' wedding as the final episode. It would've been a great way to end the show, bringing loads of old characters together and tying up the loose ends. Plus have an extra episode to work on explaining Hans' relationship and attempt at sobriety. Also scrap Gregory. How about Dobby comes back for the wedding because her job in New York didn't work out and feels depressed by that, sees Mark and wants to give things another go to cheer herself up but he's trying to win April. Some events happen, Mark ends up with neither April nor Dobby.
Or: she comes back, tries to make friends, he tries to hit on her while seemingly with April, and with her higher confidence she actually tears him a new one for only hanging around people to get something from them (sex/romance/a punching bag, etc.). Which, of course, he wouldn't understand, blaming it on America changing her, ending his character arc on the somewhat bleak note that he will never recognise he sabotages his own relationships by dehumanising the people around him.
That's my read on Mark, anyway.
@@theMoporter this is very good, I like it. Says a lot about what kind of a person Mark is
This would have been a great premise for a '1 hour special' and a wedding would be a natural place to bring back some old characters [say Toni] and you wouldn't need to bring in loads of thin new characters for a full series.
This is a good shout. The whole April/Angus thing felt like something they just dumped on top of the series at the end. Like it didnt fit with the rest of the series but they wanted to draw it out to be longer. It seemed like a kind of arbitrary choice of people to have return to the series too given how Mark and April parted company years before.
Yeah, I have to agree with you on Gregory. I'm just genuinley not sure what they were trying to do with his character. They talk about him being a hipster but his dialogue is so bland and he doesn't really do anything with the stereotype. When he's punching Mark feels weird too. Nothing about him up until then indicated he was the sort if person who'd do that, if anything I got the impression he was kind chronically apathetic. So it felt like it came out of nowhere.
Yes, and he's not shown or mentioned in any other ep.
He is pretty much just there to show Dobbie is 'taken'. I'd rather have her and Mark part as friends and move on rather than end that storyline with a stupid fight.
Can we all agree that the episode with Gog and Darryl is the best one? It has both GOG and DARRYL!
It's not even the most popular ep of s2.
@@davidz2808 I said “best” not “popular”. Popular means it’s liked by more people, and we all know that you can’t trust people, they like Coldplay and voting for the Nazis.
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The whole last season of peep show is off in my opinion. All the characters act differently
This episode gives us Jez best man's speech, the greatest thing ever, so it can't be the worst one
Each to there own but I found Mark's in series 2 for the Jez+Nancy wedding a lot funnier
It’s not. It’s his least favourite one
@@jamesatkinsonja Love is blind... that is not a joke about Blunkett.
@@jamesatkinsonja two parts of a beautiful pair
@@dulcesolum I would never make that joke.
Always felt that by this point David Mitchell, and especially Robert Webb, were too old to pull off the characters of Mark and Jez by 2015. A lot of what makes Peep Show tick is its use of common social archetypes, and playing off of the subtle nuances of them that people can relate to; a lot of people in the UK in 2003 knew of a 27 year old with a bit of Jez's pseudo-philosophy and failed musical ambition, living with a flatmate in a big city going nowhere in life - but no one in 2015 knew anyone like that at age 40. The archetype that Jez is based around is the archetype of a young man, and though putting an older man into that role could work for a gag, it doesn't provide the same relatability and humour over an entire series. 40 year old Webb doesn't live up to the role anywhere near as much as 30 year old Webb did. Mark as an anxious office drone, unsuccessful with women and naive about love, was also to a lesser extent not played anywhere near as well by Mitchell as he aged, not owing to a decline in his performance but to the fact that he's an older man playing the character of a younger man, like those mid-late 20s actors in netflix teen dramas.
@@rorz999 That may very well be the point of the show, but if it is I don't think it's a very good point. Much of the humour in series 1-4 is grounded, at least for me, in the feasibility of the general situation of the characters lives. And in those earlier series it does seem that there is more progression in Mark and Jez's lives (the build up to the wedding primarily) which only serves to sell the feasibility more. Later series seemingly latch on to the idea of pathetic stagnation and play off of the absurdity, but it comes across increasingly Monty Python-esque as the show goes on and I'm not a huge fan of it.
@@rorz999 agreed. It's not that there are less people like that at 40 compared to 30, it's just that it's all a lot sadder and less funnier at that age.
I do agree that the mark-sophie wedding seems to be the point where the show switches from a very natural study of two realistic people, to a more sit-com based approach. It's like they hit a reset button every season so that Mark and Jez can basically go through the same story line again and again. There's still a ton of decent characters, strong dialogue and hilarious situations. . but as a viewer, i'm very aware of the 'writing' necessary to keep the premise of the show going. But at the same time - as someone in his late 30s - I do also recognise that a lot of people don't 'evolve'. They get fatter, have less energy and are generally more depressed, but still try to live the same life as when they were 20 - even if they have kids now. I suppose the point is that those people really aren't 'funny' any more.
They can’t get away with being such awful people at that age, it’s not endearing even slightly it’s just annoying and ugly
It's interesting because Robert Webb kind of agreed with your point. In an interview he said "It used to be a show about people in their late 20s sharing a flat. By the end it was almost too tragic to be funny. I mean, it was funny - that last series was one of my favourites - but it just becomes a different joke, and a different show, when they're moving into middle age."
I think the therapist from series 1 was good. No nonsense, and clearly prepared for Mark's initial evasiveness
That line that Dobby says to Mark about "getting all the weirdness out of the way" and them making noises together really makes my skin crawl and doesn't feel in character for Mark at all
Its cringe inducing
I also hate this line from Dobby
"Mark, you're not actually trying to pretend you're a real human being"
This makes my skin crawl 😏
How Mark behaves in the last season is a radical departure from what has been established as his character in seasons 1-8.
@@mr.wigster8326 I relate to that line
@@kpjlflsknflksnflknsa What radical differences are there in him?
Please do a video about a Peep Show storyline you wish they had done. I can't believe they never did a foreign holiday. Imagine Mark struggling with the sunshine, tourist swindlers and "print the myth" tour guides.
There were two proposals to do exactly that. Series 3 Episode 6 was going to go to Paris but it was changed to the Quantock. The reason Dobby went to New York at the end of Series 8 was that the guys were going to follow her there for a Movie spin off but the plans fell through.
@@jamesatkinsonja thank fuck that was scrapped
I would love to see a Covid one. I could imagine Mark ranting at Jeremy's poor choice of shopping. Maybe someone like Nancy being stuck in the flat as she is between flats at the moment and Mark freaking out generally.
@@jamesatkinsonja They should have gone to Frankfurt to visit JLB HQ & the red-light district.
@@bkray26 There was a great piece of fan fiction floating around about Mark and Jeremy during lockdown.
When he said "you can create a better website than this in a few minutes max" I really thought it was gonna be a segue into an ad for Squarespace 😭😭
The channel is called Andrew, not Adrew. That's why you'll never see a filthy ad in here.
Gregory sounds like Limmy's impression of an 80's blockbuster action hero
Haha the sniper clip
Finally a long deep dive into Peep Show from Andrew!!!
He was meant to be American?! I always assumed he was Dutch!
An upload from the king. Love it.
good points, I still think that Quantocking 2 is the worst one by far. I can still laugh when everyone watches Jez have sex. That said, I agree, the Gregory character is probably the worst in the show's history. His accent is terrible - and as someone who lived in Brooklyn, he doesn't even seem like a send-up of a hipster from 2009. He's just a bland, vague nothing of a character and it's a disappointment that Dobby ended up with someone like him. I always thought it would have been funny if Dobby ended up with someone who looked and acted exactly like Mark, except better in every way.
"His accent is terrible" ctrl-F'd to find this. Hard agree. No sleight to the actor, but he definitely did not sound naturally American at all. More like an alien attempting an American accent. Or more likely, a Northern Irishman.
You could argue Dobby having such an underwhelming exit from the show was on purpose, trying to be depressingly true to how real life goes, old friends/ex partners/acquaintances just drifting apart and never actually saying goodbye to eachother, like how the final episode ends, very realistic and not some happy american sitcom style ending, Jez and Mark have no character development and the show ends with them in the same situation as when the show started all the way back 12 years prior. Alot of the characters are given underwhelming send offs and are never seen again without a proper explanation not just Dobby. We never see Mark and her say goodbye to eachother, theres no real closure. Quantocking 2 is definitely still my least favourite episode I don't laugh at anything in it. Gregory's beard at least has the hitchhiking scene and Jezez best man speech. That scene when Super Hans decides to run back to the hotel in the dark after taking off his shoes for some reason, telling Mark and Dobby to look out for wolves and once he gets a few feet in the distance shouting "oh fuck!" when he steps on something was hilarious.
Yeah, couldn't agree more. This episode was a real miss
Yeah mate
Good video man. I didn’t expect to end up watching the full thing when I clicked into it but you keep my attention throughout. Good job. Subscribed.
But the bit with the laces in the car is one of my favourite scenes.
I wonder if they were going to have Dobby + Gregory be the love triangle with Mark in Series 9, then decided against it which is why April +Angus don't appear until episode 3? Probably not but interesting to consider.
They might've realised Gregory didnt fit well in the show after filming this episode
Very plausible, especially since people probably had a very bad reception to the character of Gregory, particularly the title of the episode
I dunno, but Therapist and Mark scene was funny!
A kitten?
@@Julzi011 -Mother? "Sophie" - Fuck!
Once again great to see you back mate
I love the examples you used at 1:21. I’ve never seen some of the actors in anything else but they’re instantly recognisable because of a 30 second cameo. I still quote the bouncer to this day- “Go on, fuck off”
Would love some more episode reviews of a longer length like these!
You argued this very well. Most of this never occurred to me but you're correct
No idea why this is in my reccommended since I haven't watched Peep Show in years but I thought Jeremy discovering his bisexuality was funny and well-written, especially with the best man's speech at the end, which is the main thing I remember about the episode. Episode aside, this video has great pacing and editing, gonna check out your other videos.
The bisexuality feels like a natural progression for the character [it's a running thing throughout the show] and is one of series 9's better ideas
Honestly I thought Mark being obsessed with the heating worked as he was obsessed when they got a new boiler and liked the temperature to be a cool 17 and it was a point of contention for him and Jezz and we know Mark is tight with money so it made sense he was scabby with the heating 😂
Yes it's precisely the sort of thing a repressed and pedantic character like Mark would constantly obsess over.
At least the twins are in this episode
Turns out orange never wiped them after all
Great video. I want more long videos like this.
Do you have to live quite so relentlessly in the real world?
I think the way the show ends is great and sort of solidifies the theory that they are to be forever stuck in a loop of miserable life, because essentially Jez and Mark can’t be without each other and are destined to always ruin their lives and burn all their bridges. I feel like that exact end of the series, is a predicament they’ve been in before the series even started, and will probably be in again.
Glad to see you’re expanding on your original review.
Great review. Would you ever do any more of these or do lists of your favourite/least favourite episodes. And maybe lists of favourite one off characters ect
As an American, Gregory's delivery sounded odd to me, but it wasn't evident to me that he wasn't actually American
@@DendyJungle it’s actually terrible. It’s like people think that the American accent is just English but nasal? He’s like “YUUU DOOSHBAAEEGG” lol okay, sure.
On the other hand, you’ll have characters who pretend to be American in other shows but even when they get the accent right, the writers don’t take into account slang. So you have these faux accents saying stuff like “wow, that’s MASSIVE!” or “Are you getting it sorted?”.
Agreed. The only thing that sounded odd to me was the way Gregory called Mark a "douchebag". I just don't think an American would choose that particular insult during a fist fight lol.
@@DendyJungle You lot?
@@luke-da-duke It was like with Nancy. Even her speech sounded sort of odd, even though she is presumably from America. Having British writers even makes characters with American accents sound non-American.
@@xerojer She's Canadian I think.
The fake american accent gets me every time, its so funny because its so noticeable
You should do an in depth video like this but for your favourite peep show episode!
Good video.
Your impression of Gregory was great lol.
i really like the therapist he's a great character
what an oddly cobbled together episode
Was waiting for another vid mate! Dont necessarily think this is my least favourite but it's definitely down there somewhere...
Thank god you’ve returned
Please consider reviewing inbetweeners episodes. Also, another great video
Good idea
Back first
You point out that even the briefest of characters in Peep Show are drawn incredibly well most of the time. I'd never noticed that amongst the oevre of the show, being as high in quality as it usually is, so thank you for that point.
Also your issue with the tracking has noticeably stuck out to me since I saw it as being nonsense, and I do think if they'd continued with more series it wouldn't have been long before the show jumped the shark.
Your Gregory impression is very good
Spot on Gregory impression, almost like impressionception of an Englishman (Andrew), doing an impression of a northern Irish man trying to sound American 🤣
It's utterly ironic that my new favourite Andrew video (as of watching this) is about Andrew's least favourite episode! Absolutely smashing work. It was definitely worth a wati!
The final series of Peep Show was definitely my least favourite out of the show. Missed opportunities, awful continuity errors and such an underwhelming ending.
I agree mate, really was that great
Agreed. Really didn't like by the end we returned to the status quo of S1. All character growth retracted to leave door open for another season
@Withnail "oh i Iove cocaine, oh I love cocaine"
Said it before, but I'd rather they'd have done an hour long special instead of a full series [that way we'd have lost the Mark-April, Jez-Joe-Megan plot's which were never going to amount to much]
@@jamesatkinsonja 2 parter that where an hour each
When mark finally got over dobby that was very real
Its really cool to see my comment featured in this video.
Do you have to live so relentlessly in the real world??
Oh, come Mr Taliban, tally me bananas!...
(etc etc)
Peep Show is the best but they really mailed it in the last season.
Bruh the heating joke is relatable af atleast for me lmao
Maybe there was a tradition in the show that all American accents must be questionable after Nancy's notably Canadian "aboots".
She's Canadian in real life though.
Really enjoyed this, I think you should do a few more deep analysis of episodes.
great vid.. would love to see one on your favourite episode, too
I totally agree, I couldn't agree more.
But this episode has "I'd hospitalise them"
Legend.
This is a really good video. I'd like to see your favourite episode, and why it's that.
I agree with everything you said in this video, to the point where I kept saying "exactly!" etc out loud to myself
S4 is the best - please do an in-depth review of each ep of that.
I didn’t think it was that bad, buuut this was a good analysis of your opinion! Subbed
So Andrew, what is your favourite episode of Peep Show? My personal favourite is Jeremy Makes It.
@@rorz999 Jeremy Makes it, Wedding season 4 and On The Pull are my favourites.
I thought he said 'conference' was his favourite
As a bit of a geek myself, I really like Dobby from Series 5-7 as she's a geek and doesn't care what people think which appeals to me so I really wanted Mark and her to get together. However, in series 8 they really do a demolition job on the character [with the forced 'Jez loves her' plot] which is such a shame. I know in Peep show 'failure is the only option' but that renders the romantic sub-plots they do in these later shows hard to get invested in as we know they won't go anywhere [series 9 especially]. At least with Sophie and Nancy there was some follow up on the relationships.
Dobby's huge changes make no sense.
The first time I watched the series, I initially chalked up Dobby's drastic changes on Mark's rose tinted view of her wearing off much in the same manner that his view of Sophie changed as he spent more time with her (though that one episode where she convinces Mark to go clubbing and take drugs comes really without warning character arc wise.) But after the second time watching, I figured Dobby's changes was a combination of her realizing Mark's self destructive ways along with the aforementioned but that still leaves some things that don't add up.
@@calecarterii9203 Sophie & Dobby change massively. Sophie has an adventurous side, which is indicated by going to Rainbow Rhythms as well as the gay club.
Going to a wedding of someone you have never met or hardly interacted with......welcome to the Royal Sussex's wedding.....
Love these, love this channel. Was wondering if you'd cover the Karl pilkington series sick of it at some point ?
Whenever someone says to me I just need to let it go or take it less seriously, I'm gonna show them this video.
I found the quality of the webcams being better than that of the laptop's cams believable because their laptops are probably fairly old whereas the webcams Mark placed around the flat are definitely new.
You doing upload enough content. Your analysis of British company is excellent. If you made one video per week you’d blow
Thank god that Gregory was only in one episode.
It would make so much more sense if Gregory had just been Simon, an already established character and love rival for Dobby. Mark letting go of his feelings for Dobby would feel way more impactful if it had been to the guy he had been insanely jealous of for the whole of the last two seasons and the audience were already familiar with.
Although for me, Mark accidentally filming Jeremy have sex immediately excludes this episode from the “worst episode of Peep Show” conversation. That whole sequence, especially Hans’ reaction, is hilarious.
My own least favourite is Handyman, I just find the whole episode extremely painful and not in a funny way, relying way too much on humiliation for me, a rare low point in the otherwise stellar season four. I feel similarly about Burgling, Jurying and Jeremy’s Broke, just extremely uncomfortable and unpleasant to watch.
Ditto Mugging, but Michelle pegging Jeremy kind of saves that one. I’m sorry we didn’t get more of Michelle.
Michelle's a very entertaining character as well as hot. She should have been in PS for much longer.
Series 9 had all the characters acting against type which spoiled it for me.
I agree with a lot of this EXCEPT the heating part. I think that actually makes sense since Jeremy moved back in mark was putting his foot down.
Mark’s thing about the heating is very long established though? There’s that episode waaaay back when he asks Sophie if it’s too hot in the apartment and when she says “I guess so” he shouts at Jeremy etc etc
Him resorting to webcams and thermometers feels like a very natural peak of this neurosis, especially as these are now 40 y/o men still living together. I think if he’d jumped straight to webcams in the smoking scenario gave in the video it would feel even more contrived
Additionally, beyond the handful of partying scenes in earlier seasons we don’t actually see Jeremy being an in-home smoker.
Just my take on that particular element though! I also don’t like this episode very much, the only good bit is Jeremy’s best man speech.
Great video as always! Wondered if you could do an analysis on Super Hans and the punk subculture he represents. Thought it could make an interesting episode!
Is he part of the punk subculture? He doesn't self-identify as such & much of his music isn't punk.
@@davidz2808 the way he dresses, if you analyse him, he wears late 70s early 80s punk clothing. Have a look!!
The wedding vows are the best thing about this episode.
For me it’s the stag do episode where they cook and eat that woman’s dog. Definitely a shark jumping moment
Hands just wants a normal one
I just rewatched series 9 and I think it’s better than I remembered. There are some great Super Hans moments, the plot line with Mark is great. I think in this episode it’s good the hipster guy isn’t funny. It’s sad Dobby ends up with him, that’s good. And it’s good that Mark gets beating up at the end