@@k-leb4671 There are a few things like that which slip through, especially in later episodes [in 'the love bunker' Jez says 'Super Hans has a website' even though he burnt the band two episodes prior]. The script supervisor should have picked up lines that are now redundant but obviously misses some.
@@syncops834 They only are in the same room in 'Shrooming' and yet don't share any lines together [similar to how Dobby and Sophie never really talk outside the time Mark+ Dobby find her in the toilet!].
Very interesting. On one hand I thought the exact same thing, it’s much more fitting for Mark to stay in England highlighting how unadventurous and English he is. On the other hand, there is a certain level of “normal person” about going to Paris isn’t there. We know Mark is an absolute weirdo deep down but surface wise? The white elephant, big TV, own apartment, quite successful in his own right. I’m happy they stayed with the Quantocks but I do think that going to Paris could have worked to show how Mark aims to appear more civilised than he actually is
On one hand I would kill to see an interaction between them almost as two extremes of Jez for Hans and Mark for Johnson. On the other, it adds to how real life is and how you know a bunch of people but they may not know each other. Even the way some characters depart the show with no big goodbye, just mostly losing touch and moving on with life.
A bit of an aside here but; the whole idea that hans and Johnson don't meet up ever in the series is personally brilliant really. It matches up with the real life concept of 'theres people you might know really well but they dont know each other at all', you know, part of the tangled web of mates, dates/shags, strangers, partners, enemys and acquaintances that everyone has. A lot (too many personally) of tv programs and films have people meet up/bump into people that they probably wouldn't ever irl, even if they had mutuals, just for the sake of ONLY unnecessary drama and/or the fans/viewers demands. Films/TV doesn't always have to be down to the letter real and logical (and a lot of supposedly slice of life based programs often falter at this.. I'm looking at you soaps and reality tv) but it's when it's not done for artistic reasons or as a shameless flight of fancy or because it would make a really interesting plot point it just doesn't hold up to the test of time usually.... But anyway I'll get off my soapbox and end my stream of consciousness here.
What about when JLB go bust, and super hans is the security guard and steffan strous and Alan turn up then? Someone must have had to hire superhans to do it, and I imagine it would be alan
@@ldwp6395 To be pedantic, Hans was hired by his 'contact' to shift the stuff out of the office in his role as a 'white van man' ['we're just vanning their shit out. I might give my contact a bell. See what bits of the JLB corpse there are to chow down on']. He didn't want the raiding party to come in as it would look bad on him ['Look honey, you need to make your protest through the agreed grievance procedure' Love how Hans is professional when he wants to be!], so he wasn't technically working for Johnston though it does look like that.
I hope that one day they’ll be able to resurrect these episodes, recreating them with the same mid-2000s camera quality while digitally de-aging all the characters. It would be amazing. If they can do it with the likes of Will Smith in shitty reboots of science fiction films, why not something decent like Peep Show?
A lot of the criticisms about these scripts being too 'vulgar' or 'dark' dont really hold up considering the amount of dark and vulgar moments that happen throughout the 9 series.
agreed, these abandoned plots doesn't even compare to mark being raped or jeremy eating a half cooked pet dog (examples off the top of my head, i've probably missed other horrific things lmao)
@@jamesreeve606 Wasn't as good but S9 is still absolutely fucking hilarious lol, especially Mark re-connecting with Aprile and his improvised Moroccan dinner 😭
The whole "Johnson being suicidal and ends up in hospital after an overdose" sounds so unlike Peep Show, but then I remember there was a scene with Mark finding Jez on the floor with pills in his hand, assuming Jez tried overdosing, which led to Jez being rushed to hospital with a tube being shoved down his throat, though he was perfectly fine.
@@jameswhee That's what I mean, like it sounds like they reworked the Johnson plot into Jeremy and changed it from an actual suicide attempt, into a severe misunderstanding. But on paper, it sounds exactly the same: character "overdoses", suicidal themes, ends up getting rushed to hospital.
Yeah a botched suicide attempt wouldn't be tonally dissonant for Peep Show at all in my opinion. Think of all the dark subjects they've touched on over the years - cancer, alcoholism, drug addiction, mugging, knife crime, sexual coercion, violence towards animals. Peep Show is pretty fucking grim when you really look at it.
@@shearman360 You'd be surprised, usually loads of ideas get shelved during the writing process and re-introduced and reworked for later shows/movies/games etc.
Strange that she's called Merry. The doctor calls her Mary in Sectioning and it makes sense as little joke. M+J have been calling her the wrong name all the time they've known her because in her accent Mary sounds like Merry.
Going off the second draft, could it be the case that "Sectioning" was written with Toni in mind, rather than a previously unmentioned new character who somehow also has a history with Mark & Jez? It would make sense if she was intended to play a big part in Season 3.
Man it sucks that Elizabeth Marmur couldn't continue on the show. It seemed like the writers had big plans for her, and Toni was such a fun character to watch.
@@k-leb4671 I wish I could like Toni but I feel like we never got enough of her and often times she fell flat for me. If Elizabeth stayed I'm sure I would've been able to see Toni on the same level as other cast members like Big Suze or Nancy
Co-writer Sam Bain did an interview recently with podcast secrets of the pharaohs and said, in addition to the 'phantom' series 3 with Toni+Nancy, they wanted to bring Toni back at some point. One of the suggestions was for her to fill the role of Callie in 'Jeremy's Big Break' or possibly come to Jez's party in the finale, but nothing materialized. Shame as I loved the character and she's highly quotable ['you can be as loud as you like...]. The British comedy guide's character list for Peep Show oddly for a time described Toni as appearing in Series 1-2 & 4-6 for some reason. If only...
Interesting, because some of those ideas actually do come back again. There is an episode where Johnson relapses briefly, and another one where Mark thinks he’s gone mad, plus, Toni was replaced by big Suze and she and Johnson end up together eventually.
@@FortoFight Yeah but it's too sudden, maybe not. Peep show makes you fill in the gaps yourself but I had forgotten about that episode when I first watched the serious so it felt strange
@@FortoFight I swear theres nothing indicating towards Johnson having a problem with alcohol in between Mark and Johnson having pints talking about Sophie and Mark getting wrongly outed as an alcoholic and being forced to go to AA.
The paintballing in a go-kart bit is referenced in Season 2, Episode 6, at Jeremy's stag-do in the pub, where he says "Who needs to go off to Amsterdam paintballing in a go-kart? You know? That is such bullshit. "
Merry is short for Meredith, which also happens to be the name of the actress who plays Merry. Presumably it's less that they had an idea for a character named Merry, and more that they wanted to write a role for Meredith MacNeill the actress.
Kinda seems like this episode was made of bits eventually used everywhere else in the series. Stag do in which the host is trying to be Sober? Hans' Stag Do Someone apparently being so depressed as to have an overdose? Jeremy on Mark and Sophie's getaway in the earlier season (Except he didn't really overdose in that episode) The expensive wine? Jeremy and Big Suze' date (as mentioned in this vid) Jeremy being filmed doing sex stuff? Happened in Season 9, just for a different reason Woman being mental and needing help? Sectioning
Toni as a matter of fact “I’m having a good time, okay?!” type and Superhans, when he’s being weirdly sensible, would have made for some great scenes. It would have fit with Hans’ scenes where he always has a new job
"Mark gets tricked into spending £150 on a bottle of wine" I laughed a lot just imagining some of these scenes, credit to the writers and your delivery (and thc).
I don’t know why but “secret Twix” is so much funnier than “secret Curly Wurly”. You can just imagine Sam and Jesse day around listing chocolate brands to see which one sounded the best, that’s what makes the show so fantastic
"Secret Curly Wurly" requires you to avoid thinking of an easily contrived sexual innuendo, whereas Twix sounds serious as if it's cod Shakespearean (betwixt) and therefore slightly pretentious and absurd in the context. It also suits Mark.
it's not the depressing nature of episode that sounds tonally off (anyone who's watched peep show stoned knows it's REALLY sad), it's just the way in which SO much is going on. it sounds like a series finale of Russell t Davies era Doctor who
one of my most distressing stoned moments was getting into a 4-star police chase around franklin's neighbourhood on GTA 5 and feeling like i'd really let the community down and brought shame on my family
I'm not sure if you are a fan of That Mitchell and Webb look but there is a lost pilot episode from 2003 that was filmed around the same time the radio show had started.
Glad they didn't kill Johnson but they did kill Gerard. Still though, goes to show how the comedy comes from the characters and the acting, moreso than the episode plots.
I did have a read of the 'in Paris' version of the script and while I agree it wouldn't have worked as an episode [killing off Johnston would have been a mistake for sure] there were some gems in the script which we sadly didn't get to see: *Johnston saying everyone at the stag was an ex of Toni except for Mark [which he laughs at the idea!] *Toni saying her holiday was cancelled because 'a plane crashed into the resort, everyone was killed...why do these things keep happening to me!' * The script I read had Toni joining Nancy and Jez on there fake honeymoon [awkward!] and Toni recounting to Nancy about her sleeping with Jez in 'on the pull' [more awkward!].
I do find it interesting that there is two 'un-filmed' series 3's. One with Nancy and the 'Toni+ Johnson' plot, and another version which seems closer to the actual series [with Nancy absent and Big Suze present] but still with Toni. It's interesting how the Merry character seems to have been moved to 'sectioning' to replace Toni [Confetti came out after series 3 but if it was filmed before, maybe Robert Webb and or Olivia Colman recommended her]. It'll probably never happen but it would be nice to see some of the other 'un filmed scripts' one day [Sam Bain said 'Jeremy's Big Break was supposed to have Toni in the Callie part originally for example].
Canadian merry ( Merideth McNeil) is a known Canadian tv Comedian ( the Baroness Von Sketch Show) and I assume the Merry roll was specifically written for her ? ( She actually lives down the street from me in Toronto))
I hope that one day they’ll be able to resurrect these episodes, recreating them with the same mid-2000s camera quality while digitally de-aging all the characters. It would be amazing. If they can do it with the likes of Will Smith in shitty reboots of science fiction films, why not something decent like Peep Show?
I don't know the early episodes of Dobby hell yeah Nancy and big Suze hard to choose from them, i think with Suze she's more settled in what won't go to a pub in a say to get pissed enjoys watching Antiques Roadshow. Dobby would go rockin take no shit from anyone n Nancy well she is a jesus freak but fucking sexy hard to pick 1 n that's not talking elaina can't spell lol fit but a user
I watched the movie 'the beach' the Leo Di caprio one, the other day. I literally jumped up and pointed at the TV! 'That's Johnson!!!' Also I have seen him presenting some Christian hymn program. I think it was anyway. If not then this moreish crack has got a hold on me.
The producer at the time, who also helped out with the scripts, was Robert Popper who went on to write 'Friday Night Dinner' and contribute to 'Stath Let's Flats'. Another script editor was Ian Morris pre-Inbetweeers.
Came across that series by accident a few months ago and really enjoyed it, but they were basically playing a variation of Mark and Jez, David Mitchell's character's inner monologues were identical to Mark's
It sounds more like a sad drama. glad they didn't do it that way. I would have had to put on my cry-pants and got a big box of tissues, thank heck for that guys.
Maybe in another region of the multiverse this was made,when one of the chief critics of the first draft broke his tooth on a biscuit and had to go to the dentist to get it crowned, leading to his non attendance at the meeting,and the vote going the other way. The resultant poor outcome then leads to the cancellation of the show ( an ever present threat) to be replaced by Jimmy Carr . Jesus.
11:50 "And Hans tells him not to 'spunk it up the wall,' to which Jez is shocked at. That would've been a really good joke here." Wait, I don't get the joke at all. Why would it have been really good?
Interesting thing about the Toni-Johnson relationship. I think they had this in mind by the series 2 finale as in the last Toni scene, she starts talking really like Johnson and it’s a bit weird.
Johnson and Toni in a marriage? Sounds like something that would either end in bloodbath or might actually work out really well. But I agree that the whole Jez-and-Johnson as mates thing, and the love triangle Jez-Nancy-Toni would probably have turned "Peep Show" into a slightly edgier version of "Coupling". It really worked better with Jez basically having a new love interest in every series.
I could never stand Toni. Perhaps that’s the point; someone as jarring as her still seen as potentially being “the one” (as is the case with basically every woman they speak to). But I found her particularly hard to take...
Sorry to say ths but - I watched all of Peep Show and I found it funny and well written BUT - It also made me feel relly depressed - Non of the characters are nice and they are all fckign each other over. They all seem desperate and lonely.
"Oh great, she's posted a book. And I suppose I'm supposed to find that incredibly charming and French." makes a lot more sense now.
Great spot
Of course! Well spotted.
Yeah I wonder why they didn't change that line when they redid the whole setting. Seems like a glaring oversight.
@@k-leb4671 There are a few things like that which slip through, especially in later episodes [in 'the love bunker' Jez says 'Super Hans has a website' even though he burnt the band two episodes prior]. The script supervisor should have picked up lines that are now redundant but obviously misses some.
Charming IN French
Chance would be a fine thing
I hope you're not going to start saying that too much.
A fine thing indeed
The squeaky wheel gets the grease
Now THAT is tickety-boo.....
Chance would indeed, be a fine thing
I would pay good money to see a conversation between Super Hans and Johnson.
They're by far the best 2 characters
"Suits, clicking their fingers along to the Lighthouse Family all the while getting sucked off by a big Alsatian dog."
Surely they’ve had one
@@syncops834 They only are in the same room in 'Shrooming' and yet don't share any lines together [similar to how Dobby and Sophie never really talk outside the time Mark+ Dobby find her in the toilet!].
@@syncops834 I don't think so
I don't think Paris would fit with the mundane theme of Peep show.
They'd make it bland and mundane. Croissant etiquette in the b and b, slumming it on the metro...
I think the idea of Paris is not as nice as the reality, they could’ve made it super boring and a big let down.
Paris isnt as nice as Americans make it out to be. It can be/look just as mundane, ugly, and dirty as New York.
Maybe they could have filmed in the Parisian equivalent of Croydon.
Very interesting. On one hand I thought the exact same thing, it’s much more fitting for Mark to stay in England highlighting how unadventurous and English he is. On the other hand, there is a certain level of “normal person” about going to Paris isn’t there. We know Mark is an absolute weirdo deep down but surface wise? The white elephant, big TV, own apartment, quite successful in his own right. I’m happy they stayed with the Quantocks but I do think that going to Paris could have worked to show how Mark aims to appear more civilised than he actually is
Super Hans and Johnson not interacting in the series a shame though
They work best as characters when contrasted with Mark or Jez one-on-one, somehow it wouldn't work with each other.
On one hand I would kill to see an interaction between them almost as two extremes of Jez for Hans and Mark for Johnson.
On the other, it adds to how real life is and how you know a bunch of people but they may not know each other. Even the way some characters depart the show with no big goodbye, just mostly losing touch and moving on with life.
Sounds like they recycled some parts of the Johnson stag for Super Hans stag.
A bit of an aside here but; the whole idea that hans and Johnson don't meet up ever in the series is personally brilliant really. It matches up with the real life concept of 'theres people you might know really well but they dont know each other at all', you know, part of the tangled web of mates, dates/shags, strangers, partners, enemys and acquaintances that everyone has.
A lot (too many personally) of tv programs and films have people meet up/bump into people that they probably wouldn't ever irl, even if they had mutuals, just for the sake of ONLY unnecessary drama and/or the fans/viewers demands.
Films/TV doesn't always have to be down to the letter real and logical (and a lot of supposedly slice of life based programs often falter at this.. I'm looking at you soaps and reality tv) but it's when it's not done for artistic reasons or as a shameless flight of fancy or because it would make a really interesting plot point it just doesn't hold up to the test of time usually.... But anyway I'll get off my soapbox and end my stream of consciousness here.
What about when JLB go bust, and super hans is the security guard and steffan strous and Alan turn up then? Someone must have had to hire superhans to do it, and I imagine it would be alan
It furthers the theory that Super Hans and Johnson are the same person.
Interesting side note relating to that, in Breaking Bad Jesse and Walt jr are the only two principal characters who don't meet at any point
Good stuff
@@ldwp6395 To be pedantic, Hans was hired by his 'contact' to shift the stuff out of the office in his role as a 'white van man' ['we're just vanning their shit out. I might give my contact a bell. See what bits of the JLB corpse there are to chow down on']. He didn't want the raiding party to come in as it would look bad on him ['Look honey, you need to make your protest through the agreed grievance procedure' Love how Hans is professional when he wants to be!], so he wasn't technically working for Johnston though it does look like that.
Imagine all the amazing Johnson Quotes we missed.
I hope that one day they’ll be able to resurrect these episodes, recreating them with the same mid-2000s camera quality while digitally de-aging all the characters. It would be amazing. If they can do it with the likes of Will Smith in shitty reboots of science fiction films, why not something decent like Peep Show?
A lot of the criticisms about these scripts being too 'vulgar' or 'dark' dont really hold up considering the amount of dark and vulgar moments that happen throughout the 9 series.
agreed, these abandoned plots doesn't even compare to mark being raped or jeremy eating a half cooked pet dog (examples off the top of my head, i've probably missed other horrific things lmao)
@Dardy B don’t forget Mark cutting himself
Series 9 was so bad it was a complete betrayal of Peep Show
@@jamesreeve606 series 9 did lose its way but I'm talking about the series as a whole from 1 to 9.
@@jamesreeve606 Wasn't as good but S9 is still absolutely fucking hilarious lol, especially Mark re-connecting with Aprile and his improvised Moroccan dinner 😭
The whole "Johnson being suicidal and ends up in hospital after an overdose" sounds so unlike Peep Show, but then I remember there was a scene with Mark finding Jez on the floor with pills in his hand, assuming Jez tried overdosing, which led to Jez being rushed to hospital with a tube being shoved down his throat, though he was perfectly fine.
Yeah but the joke is that it was mundane after all. He had a headache and took one.
@@jameswhee That's what I mean, like it sounds like they reworked the Johnson plot into Jeremy and changed it from an actual suicide attempt, into a severe misunderstanding.
But on paper, it sounds exactly the same: character "overdoses", suicidal themes, ends up getting rushed to hospital.
Yeah a botched suicide attempt wouldn't be tonally dissonant for Peep Show at all in my opinion. Think of all the dark subjects they've touched on over the years - cancer, alcoholism, drug addiction, mugging, knife crime, sexual coercion, violence towards animals. Peep Show is pretty fucking grim when you really look at it.
@@TheNathanNS Don't think they would have wrote a season 3 episode before season 1
@@shearman360 You'd be surprised, usually loads of ideas get shelved during the writing process and re-introduced and reworked for later shows/movies/games etc.
Strange that she's called Merry. The doctor calls her Mary in Sectioning and it makes sense as little joke. M+J have been calling her the wrong name all the time they've known her because in her accent Mary sounds like Merry.
It probably is a joke! After all, they make it a point that she’s Canadian. That’s a good catch
The actress name Meredith so presumably the characters name was too [hence Merry].
Going off the second draft, could it be the case that "Sectioning" was written with Toni in mind, rather than a previously unmentioned new character who somehow also has a history with Mark & Jez? It would make sense if she was intended to play a big part in Season 3.
Man it sucks that Elizabeth Marmur couldn't continue on the show. It seemed like the writers had big plans for her, and Toni was such a fun character to watch.
This and Michelle's appearance possibly
@@k-leb4671 I wish I could like Toni but I feel like we never got enough of her and often times she fell flat for me.
If Elizabeth stayed I'm sure I would've been able to see Toni on the same level as other cast members like Big Suze or Nancy
It’s a shame Toni didn’t return after series 2, they obviously still had big plans for her.
Better character than Super Hans too.
SteRDLK fuck off is she
chance would be a fine thing
Co-writer Sam Bain did an interview recently with podcast secrets of the pharaohs and said, in addition to the 'phantom' series 3 with Toni+Nancy, they wanted to bring Toni back at some point. One of the suggestions was for her to fill the role of Callie in 'Jeremy's Big Break' or possibly come to Jez's party in the finale, but nothing materialized. Shame as I loved the character and she's highly quotable ['you can be as loud as you like...]. The British comedy guide's character list for Peep Show oddly for a time described Toni as appearing in Series 1-2 & 4-6 for some reason. If only...
She was so bloody annoying
Interesting, because some of those ideas actually do come back again. There is an episode where Johnson relapses briefly, and another one where Mark thinks he’s gone mad, plus, Toni was replaced by big Suze and she and Johnson end up together eventually.
Yeah that part always stuck out like a sore thumb at the new years eve party where it's like we missed an episode where Johnson is an alcoholic
@@TomCushnie It's established earlier than that, when people think that Mark is an alcoholic and Johnson takes him to an AA meeting.
@@FortoFight Yeah but it's too sudden, maybe not. Peep show makes you fill in the gaps yourself but I had forgotten about that episode when I first watched the serious so it felt strange
@@FortoFight I swear theres nothing indicating towards Johnson having a problem with alcohol in between Mark and Johnson having pints talking about Sophie and Mark getting wrongly outed as an alcoholic and being forced to go to AA.
@@J8D2 Maybe Johnson had a non-alcoholic pint when they were at the pub together in series 1.
Drunk cool Johnson being friends with Jez would have been worth the rest of the mess.
chance would be a fine thing
The last beemer out of Saigon. I’m at the mercy of the Vietnamese peasants, please don’t put me in a bamboo cage
Know what I'm hearing? Poor me, poor me... pour me another drink !
The paintballing in a go-kart bit is referenced in Season 2, Episode 6, at Jeremy's stag-do in the pub, where he says "Who needs to go off to Amsterdam paintballing in a go-kart? You know? That is such bullshit. "
Merry is short for Meredith, which also happens to be the name of the actress who plays Merry. Presumably it's less that they had an idea for a character named Merry, and more that they wanted to write a role for Meredith MacNeill the actress.
She appeared with Robert Webb+ Olivia Colman in the infamous 'confetti' so maybe one of them recommended her
the thought of super hans interacting with johnson made me laugh just hearing it
Kinda seems like this episode was made of bits eventually used everywhere else in the series.
Stag do in which the host is trying to be Sober? Hans' Stag Do
Someone apparently being so depressed as to have an overdose? Jeremy on Mark and Sophie's getaway in the earlier season (Except he didn't really overdose in that episode)
The expensive wine? Jeremy and Big Suze' date (as mentioned in this vid)
Jeremy being filmed doing sex stuff? Happened in Season 9, just for a different reason
Woman being mental and needing help? Sectioning
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Toni as a matter of fact “I’m having a good time, okay?!” type and Superhans, when he’s being weirdly sensible, would have made for some great scenes.
It would have fit with Hans’ scenes where he always has a new job
Johnson and toni would have been awful. Paterson Jospeh playing Johnson, a gorgeous, neurotic overchiever belongs with beautiful but dull Big Suze
I don’t know if I’d call Johnson ‘gorgeous’
@J H He's somewhat shorter compared to the other male characters though
@@billyallen4228 wouldn't call him an "overachiever" either...!
Johnson and Toni are both super narcissists though
@@sarahsmellslikehoboP overachiever can mean a lot of things depending on the actual competency of a person.
"Mark gets tricked into spending £150 on a bottle of wine"
I laughed a lot just imagining some of these scenes, credit to the writers and your delivery (and thc).
Recycled on jez spending 60 quid on borrolo 😅
Mark could get tricked into funding the Taliban
@@townzgl7289 *40 quid
@k-leb4671 *45 quid
Woah never Knew.
Merry Christmark, Andrew! 🎄
I don’t know why but “secret Twix” is so much funnier than “secret Curly Wurly”. You can just imagine Sam and Jesse day around listing chocolate brands to see which one sounded the best, that’s what makes the show so fantastic
Or they might've only been able to procure a Twix. Maybe the intern got the wrong memo.
"Twix" is a more pungent sound, consisting only of one syllable containing of multiple "strong" consonants.
"Secret Curly Wurly" requires you to avoid thinking of an easily contrived sexual innuendo, whereas Twix sounds serious as if it's cod Shakespearean (betwixt) and therefore slightly pretentious and absurd in the context. It also suits Mark.
it's not the depressing nature of episode that sounds tonally off (anyone who's watched peep show stoned knows it's REALLY sad), it's just the way in which SO much is going on. it sounds like a series finale of Russell t Davies era Doctor who
one of my most distressing stoned moments was getting into a 4-star police chase around franklin's neighbourhood on GTA 5 and feeling like i'd really let the community down and brought shame on my family
I guess Channel 4 didn't want to pay for them to film in Paris.
Chance would be a fine thing
Yeesh, I'm glad they didn't go with those original scripts - they're a hot mess.
I'm not sure if you are a fan of That Mitchell and Webb look but there is a lost pilot episode from 2003 that was filmed around the same time the radio show had started.
I always love stories about media that could have happened
This channel should be called "Everything Peep show", bcoz this channel has lots of peep show videos.
Glad they didn't kill Johnson but they did kill Gerard. Still though, goes to show how the comedy comes from the characters and the acting, moreso than the episode plots.
@@ModMokkaMatti That is so freak.
I did have a read of the 'in Paris' version of the script and while I agree it wouldn't have worked as an episode [killing off Johnston would have been a mistake for sure] there were some gems in the script which we sadly didn't get to see:
*Johnston saying everyone at the stag was an ex of Toni except for Mark [which he laughs at the idea!]
*Toni saying her holiday was cancelled because 'a plane crashed into the resort, everyone was killed...why do these things keep happening to me!'
* The script I read had Toni joining Nancy and Jez on there fake honeymoon [awkward!] and Toni recounting to Nancy about her sleeping with Jez in 'on the pull' [more awkward!].
I do find it interesting that there is two 'un-filmed' series 3's. One with Nancy and the 'Toni+ Johnson' plot, and another version which seems closer to the actual series [with Nancy absent and Big Suze present] but still with Toni. It's interesting how the Merry character seems to have been moved to 'sectioning' to replace Toni [Confetti came out after series 3 but if it was filmed before, maybe Robert Webb and or Olivia Colman recommended her]. It'll probably never happen but it would be nice to see some of the other 'un filmed scripts' one day [Sam Bain said 'Jeremy's Big Break was supposed to have Toni in the Callie part originally for example].
Canadian merry ( Merideth McNeil) is a known Canadian tv Comedian ( the Baroness Von Sketch Show) and I assume the Merry roll was specifically written for her ? ( She actually lives down the street from me in Toronto))
I hope that one day they’ll be able to resurrect these episodes, recreating them with the same mid-2000s camera quality while digitally de-aging all the characters. It would be amazing. If they can do it with the likes of Will Smith in shitty reboots of science fiction films, why not something decent like Peep Show?
That would be so cool
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@@megakenneth3964 yyok that’s good v
The whole cowboy thing does sound hilarious though
11:00 No, Jeremy could be shell-shocked. Mark is stuffed shell-shocked.
I was in another room when this video started and was so confused hearing you explain a weird parallel universe episode of 'Quantocking'
Clearly not a true fan. Mark and Sophie actually go to the Boondocks 😂😂
weekend in the Boondocks
Fun fact: Alan Johnson started in the 1999 classic 'The Beach' with Leonardo DiCaprio 😎🤙
Irrelevant but Big Suze is the hottest
Im pretty sure her actress married a royal.
Elena > suze
Nancy is the hottest.
I don't know the early episodes of Dobby hell yeah Nancy and big Suze hard to choose from them, i think with Suze she's more settled in what won't go to a pub in a say to get pissed enjoys watching Antiques Roadshow. Dobby would go rockin take no shit from anyone n Nancy well she is a jesus freak but fucking sexy hard to pick 1 n that's not talking elaina can't spell lol fit but a user
Elena is the hottest, Suze steals your heart, Nancy is your ideal shag and Sophie can go to hell
I watched the movie 'the beach' the Leo Di caprio one, the other day. I literally jumped up and pointed at the TV! 'That's Johnson!!!' Also I have seen him presenting some Christian hymn program. I think it was anyway. If not then this moreish crack has got a hold on me.
The script editors were the real heroes of Peep Show!
The producer at the time, who also helped out with the scripts, was Robert Popper who went on to write 'Friday Night Dinner' and contribute to 'Stath Let's Flats'. Another script editor was Ian Morris pre-Inbetweeers.
08:47 this guy is also in another show Mitchell and Web did called 'Back'
Came across that series by accident a few months ago and really enjoyed it, but they were basically playing a variation of Mark and Jez, David Mitchell's character's inner monologues were identical to Mark's
Merry Christmas
INI - Fakin Jax (instrumental) produced by Pete Rock playing in the background. Hip-hop/Peep Show Nerd alert.
i finally know who was in paris, thank you.
It sounds more like a sad drama. glad they didn't do it that way. I would have had to put on my cry-pants and got a big box of tissues, thank heck for that guys.
13:09 That’s the guy from Back!
Maybe in another region of the multiverse this was made,when one of the chief critics of the first draft broke his tooth on a biscuit and had to go to the dentist to get it crowned, leading to his non attendance at the meeting,and the vote going the other way. The resultant poor outcome then leads to the cancellation of the show ( an ever present threat) to be replaced by Jimmy Carr . Jesus.
Not Jimmy Carr!!
I wouldn't have liked this but it would be strange for peep show to actually air an episode like this! Johnson feeling suicidal is too much.
I haven't analysed it, I just think it's the funniest thing ever on tv
Jeremy’s cowboy pornography though…oh my god that would have been the peak of the entire show
11:50 "And Hans tells him not to 'spunk it up the wall,' to which Jez is shocked at. That would've been a really good joke here."
Wait, I don't get the joke at all. Why would it have been really good?
I like the characterisation of Johnson here. Way better than the cartoonishly evil Johnson of later series
Series 3 is pretty dark so I can see how this could have been considered
Interesting thing about the Toni-Johnson relationship. I think they had this in mind by the series 2 finale as in the last Toni scene, she starts talking really like Johnson and it’s a bit weird.
Oh yeah, you're right.
Where's my...lollipop?
Sounds to me like some of the debauchery of Johnson's stag got repurposed into Hans' arc in early series 9. But without the depression
There’s a comic relief sketch that I didn’t know existed until recently
I love the way he says merry
I didn't clock it was "Merry" not "Mary" until about my 20th watch.
This sounds more like Bojack Horseman. What is this? A crossover episode?
ngl im a bit dissapinted we didnt get to see jez dressed as a cowboy
Johnson and Toni in a marriage? Sounds like something that would either end in bloodbath or might actually work out really well. But I agree that the whole Jez-and-Johnson as mates thing, and the love triangle Jez-Nancy-Toni would probably have turned "Peep Show" into a slightly edgier version of "Coupling". It really worked better with Jez basically having a new love interest in every series.
Thankfully we got the excellent Quantocking in the end. The other ideas sound ghastly.
Nice choice of music! One of InI best tracks
Alan Johnson as executed is the perfect character. This would have been too early to go with the alcoholism here.
I saw an interview with paterson Joseph before and he said they were thinking of getting johnson to top himself
You're right. The first season was supposed to end with Johnson killing himself. However they thought that was too dark and scrapped it.
It's a brainer
It's a real brainer
I always thought 'Merry' was 'Mere' ie short for Meredith.
This is such a weird episode. Nothing seems right ha. Jeremy and Johnson being friends?? And Johnson’s and Toni. Wtf
why is it called sisterning on netflix?
Paranoia, Paranoia ...
Everybody’s coming to get me
Maybe these drafts could have worked. Maybe they all sounded insane before they were put to production
I could never stand Toni. Perhaps that’s the point; someone as jarring as her still seen as potentially being “the one” (as is the case with basically every woman they speak to). But I found her particularly hard to take...
Why was it called Mark and Sophie in Paris? Because Marks and Sophies was in Paris.
Who was in Paris?
I feel like some other dark comedy should use the elements of the first plot in an episode, would like to see how it would work.
not sure using picture cycles works, distracts from what you are saying, which should be taking up all my attention
Glad they decided to scrap this. This sounds too far fetched for a comedy that’s grounded in reality lol
5:36 I see what you did there..
Ah so thats who was there
So many undeveloped possibilities - exploring character interactions, spin offs, Johnson and Superhans.
Sounds like bad fan fiction to me... Toni and Johnson? Gosh
Who was in Paris
only for real bad PS geeks, I did manage over 4 minutes of it tho
In spanish please 😭
Johnson?!
ini ;)
You are the first person to have spotted it!
Sorry to say ths but - I watched all of Peep Show and I found it funny and well written BUT - It also made me feel relly depressed - Non of the characters are nice and they are all fckign each other over. They all seem desperate and lonely.
i was expecting actual peep show not a media students evaluation on a non existent episode =(
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