That's a great way of describing it. Back in the eighties, I moved from the Westside, Westlake to be exact to Shaker. My Jewish friends called the west side farmland. I laughed, but back then the east side had more diversity than the west side. I do like both sides, But
I know somebody who lives near Lutheran and they are convinced they live downtown, I said, if you lived under that bridge on the other side of the river it would be downtown. lmao.
@@RudyLib926 Ha! You are absolutely correct no it is not, but it at least seems to be more common around here in my "unscientific poll". A new out of state coworker was in town and he asked me how far away something was and I told him in minutes rather than distance. He laughed and said he asked how far, not how long to get there. He said that's not the first time he noticed someone doing the same with directions here. My uncle who grew up in CLE but lives in California said he noticed that too.
The east side of Cleveland gets a LOT more snow than the west side and I can tell you exactly where it starts - East 185th street. You can be driving with good weather heading east from downtown, then as soon as you reach East 185th street, it is white out. I saw this happen many, many times.
@@livinginnortheastohio8643 You spoke about all of a sudden coming into a wall cloud of snow and I've seen that many times driving down 90 right at E. 185th street. Either the lake shoreline makes a sudden turn in that area or there is a rise in elevation or something else is going on, but that is always where I saw that wall cloud of white out snow, just as you mention.
I remember when I first came to Northeast, Ohio many years ago, I stayed overnight in a hotel in Chagrin Falls. I didn't know at the time that I was right in the middle of the snow belt. Well my hotel room was on the very bottom floor and it had a sliding glass door that opened onto a small patio. I went to sleep that night being able to see everything out that glass door. In the morning, the whole thing was covered in snow - from bottom to top. I remember thinking, "my God what am I getting myself into!" Thank God, I learned that not all of northeast Ohio had snowfall that heavy!
@@livinginnortheastohio8643 And take it from me, you never want to have a flat tire right in Dead Man's Curve, in the middle of winter. I lived through that once and once was enough!
Great video, I literally just got homesick!!! I grew up in S. Euclid & hung out on the east side during my high school & college (Kent St) days. As far as getting downtown, I always cruised Chester in/out when I traveled there as if you drove 30-35 MPH, you'd hit all of the lights. Sneaking through the various neighborhoods was never an issue for me to get downtown, I found all of the shortcuts. When I didn't want to drive, the RTA 41 to Windermere could get me there or 34 to the Van Aken/Shaker rapid Lett in 90 when I joined the Navy, now currently living in the Virginia burbs near DC. The thing I miss most about CLE is it was a large city w/ o being so big. Trust me when I say I could get side to side in 30 minutes or less :) I've been to several of the world's largest cities over my lifetime (Singapore, LA, NYC, Chicago Tokyo, London, Paris to name a few) and we have just as much arts/culture as any of them, but they don't have the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame!! I miss the Flats of the mid/late 80s and all of bars/clubs you could catch a live performance; Blossom, Peabody's, Agora, etc. I visit the 216 often as I still have family/friends there.
Factually speaking the east side gets more rain/snow/clouds due to the geography and elevation. Especially around the Chagrin Highlands and Chardon areas.
Lifelong suburban Clevelander here...I really enjoyed your detailed look at the area! You gave some really great information--I especially enjoyed learning about how the rivalry between eastside and westside came about--and you did an excellent job presenting it. One question: do you ever show houses a little further out in the suburbs? I love my hometown of Chesterland, Ohio, which is only about a 25 minute drive from downtown Cleveland. If any of your clients are looking to work in the city but come home to a semi-rural town, a place that's also 30 minutes from Lake Erie (north) or Middlefield's Amish country (east), a place almost equidistant from many shopping and dining options in Mayfield or Mentor, a place near to several excellent parks and most importantly, a place that's a bit cheaper than Shaker Heights, Solon or Beachwood, I recommend Chesterland.
This is a great video for someone who is new to Cleveland or is planning to move to the area. AK's info is unbelievably accurate. All the major downtown venues are on the east side of the river. However I find that unless you're living in the areas just east of downtown, it is far easier to get into downtown from the westside suburbs than the eastside. Eastside neighborhoods seem to have the charm lacking in the westside. All in all, there's a place for everyone.
It’s funny because I grew up on E 33 and practically lived downtown, but you are right. The lack of highway access seems to isolate the east side suburbs more. You can only take 90 or 480 to get into downtown without driving through all the suburbs and neighborhoods, where as you are 10 minutes away from practically any freeway on the west side, even as far as Berea and Strongsville, and they all connect into the heart of downtown
I'm a recent transplant to CLE from the western US. I work on the east side. Wife works right between 71 and 77 off of 480, so pretty central. When looking for a place, I was really focused on the east side and the very eastern edge of the west side. We ended up in Strongsville, as far south and west as you can go in Cuyahoga County. Everytime I'm on the east side, I lament that we didn't move there, I love the history and the archetecture. I really wanted to move to Shaker. But the west side had more of what we wanted in a home, and the taxes are so much less than most of the east side. And the schools are still among the best in the area and still some of the highest ranked in the state. Though I'm not a fan of my 30 mile commute, easy freeway access helps and I'm really enjoying the west side. Live just off of the Mill Stream Reservation, and the Metroparks are by far the best urban parks system of anywhere I've ever lived in the US or UK.
Thanks for your input! Strongsville is a great city and so is Shaker. West side tends to be more safe and the property taxes are lower too like you said.
@@livinginnortheastohio8643 it's nice here but they really need to get tough on crime here. They don't seem to have the funding for the police to be a big tuff city force.
Cleveland native here, Westside to be precise. Living in the Middle East now for 20 years.. We have a small Ohio community here. We get together every sunday to watch the Browns and sometimes the Buckeyes. Hopefully this is the Brown's year.
I'm a life-long Clevelander and live in the Westpark neighborhood. What Alex didn't address is that What is now Cleveland proper started as two different cities: Cleveland on the east side if the Cuyahoga and Ohio City on the west. The separation is part of the underlying rivalry between east and west. Also, one reason for the limited highway access on the east side was the eastern residents' resistance to highway construction. There was a fear that more east-west highways would allow more access to the east from westsiders. Many of the comments are from "Clevelanders" who are from Greater Cleveland rather than the actual city. The term "Greater Cleveland" is used to encompass Cleveland and the inner-ring suburbs, and can include cities as different as Rocky River [higher-income whites] to East Cleveland [low-income blacks]. Often, people will say they are from Cleveland when more accurately they are from an outer-ring suburb in Cuyahoga County. Some will even take umbrage at being called a Clevelander. As far as racial makeup, Cleveland proper is 51 percent black, with most blacks living on the east side, though that is changing. Inner-ring suburbs, such as Parma are getting more blacks moving in. Cleveland has had a variety of black mayors, city council members, city council presidents, and police chiefs. Much of the crime in the city takes place in sketchy east side neighborhoods, though it is spreading west. Unlike cities such a Detroit, that fell on hard times with the loss of the auto industry, when Cleveland lost the steel industry and saw a diminution of auto part construction, it was lucky enough to fall back on the health industry, with world-class hospitals such as the Cleveland Clinic and University Hospitals.
Much of the crime in the area does not occur in sketchy east neighborhoods. The crime in minority occupied neighborhoods is more policed and reported on but there is not a higher prevalence of it. It’s a common misconception.
@@jasmine7744 you just made a complete false statement my brother is a cop used to work in Cleveland the Eastside is much worse from 185th the outskirts of downtown is very bad for the most part minus little Italy & Bratenhall so you have no clue! That also includes (East Cleveland! Stats don’t lie!
I'm trying to move back to Cleveland. Unfortunately for Game Developers, there doesn't seem to be an industry in Cleveland for us. I grew up in Fairview Park and Avon Lake before moving to the UK in the early 00's. My Grandaddy used to run Cleveland Yacht Supply back in the day and was a real active member in the Cleveland Yacht Club.
Getting intongame dev stuff myself after working farcry5 arcade for years. There really isnt anything like that here.... I wouldnt move here especially as a game dev
Wow! Born and raised on the east side of Cleveland. Specifically growing up in the very urban Kinsman Ave. Which is right around the corner from Shaker. This video was excellent. Well put together and chock full of info. Makes me miss living there. Good stuff!
@@livinginnortheastohio8643 Glad he didn't take the property in that area. Its not good over there. 😂 Man I'm glad I came across your video. Even if I'm a bit late. I truly miss Cleveland and every thing about it. Especially places like Randall Mall that's been gone for so long. Anyway, thank you for the content. I'll be asking you what great places to eat at soon. I don't know anymore since I live elsewhere out of state.
Thank you for the elaborate video breaking down the differences that also includes some awesome history of the city. I’m an out of state investor new to the Cleveland market and just recently stumbled upon your channel. So far enjoying every bit of it. Keep up the great work!
Yep. Best thing to do is live NOWHERE IN the city if you're not a very wealthy person who has the means to live in the affluent areas, and choose, wisely, the suburbs. Avoid most of the ones on the east side. The plague is VERY real and it's creeping all the time. Trust me; I lived in Maple Heights for 25 years and finally got out, but still rent the house out. That dump gives East Cleveland a run for its money in the ghetto department - TERRIBLE roads, lots of crime, and a school system rated at or near the bottom of the state's ranking year after year after year. Garfield Heights isn't far behind either.
@@Rhtjr-je2li For now. Yes they have new development, but areas by the 480 interchanges with 82 and 91 have really built up. If they could find a way to connect Liberty to a highway, it would not be too long before it was built up as well.
The old money on the East side is also from the original Cleveland settlers. I would put it at 25% of the money that is in Shaker today is from those families. It's descendants from the families who bought the original parcels in downtown when it was surveyed out. They moved East. And they hated Ohio City trying to build up.
I live in Indy now but was born and raised in Garfield. I had some family that lived on the west side and I used to hate going to my grandparents house because it took sooooo long. A good 45 minutes and that’s with getting on the highway. Love my hometown though. I remember when shaker used to be constantly in the top ten of most beautiful cities in the country.
@@livinginnortheastohio8643 nope not Lorain but it was right before you got into Parma. I can’t remember what highway it was but they stayed right off highway. I miss my city good times. It’s a shame about East Cleveland. It used to be a nice place in the 70’s-80’s. A little bad but nothing like it is now. Tragic……….
I've lived on the Southside of Cleveland (Miles,Lee,Harvard) area for about a year. I've lived on the Westside of Cleveland (Madison,Clark,West 25th) area for about a decade or more. And I've grew up on the Eastside ( East Cleveland, 105th,St Claire) area. For solitude and convince I recommend the Westside. For proximity to blue collar jobs I recommend the Southside/ Westside. For more space and spread out living conditions where you don't want to live piled on top of your neighbors I recommend the Eastside. The houses are so tiny and closed together on the Westside.
I was born on the east side raised over there I live on the west side now and we are two different cities forsure I'm a east side kid by heart and will never change that.
Overall a very good video! I would also add if you speak Spanish all of the Hispanic neighborhoods are on the westside. Also almost all of the Islamic community is centered on the westside. There a a few private Islamic schools as well as almost all of the mosques on the westside as well as a few shopping districts/markets with halal foods. Conversely if you are Jewish, most of the schools and synagogues are centered on the eastside. Hope that helps!
Since I worked all over the Cleveland Akron Metro area and beyond, Granger Twp. in Medina County where I reside is 5-10 minutes from I-76, I-71, I-77, I-271 and the Ohio Turnpike I-80. This made commuting very convenient. Downtown Cleveland takes 25 minutes.
Fairview Park has flooding issues due to the sewers being clogged. also, the pool at the rec center has been shut down for like 3 years and it's not getting fixed because people want the sewers fixed first
I would agree. There’s not a ton of diversity in the Cleveland area in general. there are “pockets” or neighborhoods with different ethnicity groups but majority is black and white, with most people stating west is white and east is black.
Love the video but saying Shaker Heights is like Rocky River is a bit crazy.... I get you for Westlake and Solon and maaaaaaaaybe Cleveland Heights and Lakewood
I grew up on the east side. Learned to drive in South Euclid. It honestly and truly NEVER occurred to me how much of a pain in the neck it was to get to a freeway, until I moved to the west side, and had a freeway less than 5 minutes from my front door. As far as the "old money/new money", never had much of it, so, it doesn't matter to me. Honestly, the entire west/east thing isn't really that big of an issue to me at all. Cleveland is a great place to live, and it has it's pluses and minuses like everywhere else.
I grew up in glenville and very easy access to the freeway. I eventually moved to Cleveland hts and was miserable because it felt like it took ten minutes just to get to the free way. And driving on the roads was horrible because of how poorly conditioned they were When I moved to lakewood it was great. Easy access to freeways
@@livinginnortheastohio8643 The newly opened Opportunity Corridor Boulevard actually does a good job of connecting the West Side to the East Side at University Circle.
I grew up on the east side of Cleveland moving around a lot so I’ve been in a lot of different neighborhoods and areas but I moved to Lakewood for 6 or 7 years and now I’m a west sider for the rest of my life I’m glad someone made a video about Cleveland that’s positive this is really a beautiful city that I’m proud to say I’m from, as a kid I hated it here wishing I was from a bigger city like a Chicago, LA, or NYC but now as an adult I appreciate it here more than ever. Also before I moved the the west side I heard more people saying that people on the west side were stuck up rather than the other way around and I liken the west side to being more like the south being that people seem to be more relaxed and easy going and the east to be more like a NYC everybody’s kind of into their own thing moving and going, busy and focused I don’t know if that makes sense or if anybody else feels that way but that’s my opinion. All in all I say all of this to say there’s no best side just preference all of Cleveland is great!
@@zythr9999 that was my point I grew up in a bunch of different east side Cleveland neighborhoods and lived in Lakewood for 6 or 7 years which made me appreciate the west side and now I live in Cleveland on the west side and I like it better than the east LOL
Old money moved further east when Millionaires Row was on the decline. The Severances and the Wades are largely responsible for the cultural institutions of University Circle. I was reading somewhere how the Wade family was pushing to make the botanical gardens free again. At one point they used to be.
South side is the best side! Broadview and Brecksville have top schools as well - you missed those. You missed parks access too - Cuyahoga Valley, Metroparks, Mentor Headlands, etc.
We love in chagrin falls! East side all day. West side is nice for lake activities, but east side is rolling green hills, country clubs, estates, charm and more established. Both are great easy side just is prettier to drive through. Love Cleveland all of it! Come visit!
As a Lakewood resident I don't consider our sports teams as being on the East side. They feel like more a part of downtown. I feel the same about the West Side Market and The Flats.
As for me i am pretty ok with rainy, snowy and cold weather Cleveland is featured. At the first glance it is comprehensive, full weigh mid sized, beautiful downtown.
Born in Berea, grew up (until I was 9) in West Cleveland, but spent a huge amount of time with my grandmother in East Cleveland... my mom was East side born and raised, graduated from Shaw High
Okay thank you for explaining that because I actually live in Cleveland heights so being a Cleveland I already know that's going to be like up and down the hills and since I have to go to school that way it's so much bumpiness though so thank you for explaining that
Good video, the one issue I have is the comment about the East side being stuck up. I worked for many years at the Great Lakes Mall and I worked at Great Northern Mall. The customers on the east side were much easier to deal with. The West Siders were stuck up and entitled. The irony is that my fellow Mall workers were more friendly on the west side than east. But that could come down to an us vs them mentality.
i love berea, but its a much smaller town than akron. nobody likes akron. lakewood is great too but its pretty far from akron and idk ur reason for moving
I spent my earlier years on the west side (Brooklyn Centre), but the majority of my life on the east side in (Cleveland Heights). I HATED Cleveland Heights but we moved out of my area in the late 80's because my area was very racist. I was black growing up in a white family. People in the neighborhood got upset as grew older when I would leave my yard and walk around the neighborhood. Because of this, my family moved to Cleveland Heights (a more progressive and accepting city). Cleveland Heights bordered Shaker Heights which is a very upscale city and many people in Cleveland Heights (when I lived there) were very uppedy. Cleveland Heights was not very diverse. There weren't very many asians or hispanics in Cleveland Heights, just black and white. The west side has a lot more diversity and is way more interesting. After college, I moved back to Cleveland and followed my parents (who had moved back to the west side of Cleveland). I think the west side is the better area and is undergoing a huge renassance.
In 1985 I got off the plane in Cleveland to see about a sick relative who's neighbor told me to take the red line to Windermere and get a cab to the condos on Green Road... the poor, sweet train driver wouldn't leave me by myself at the station at 0200am. After an hour NO taxi would come, so she got the CPD to give me a ride. My parent's left Cleveland in '64 a few months before I was born. Dad graduated from Cathedral Latin and Case Western. In the 1930s/40s tge family had a house on Paige Ave in East Cleveland. Several weeks ago I looked at it on Google maps and entire blocks were abandoned. The house was a 2 1/2 story Gothic... it looked like something out of the Adams Family. I understand that the City has "shot spotter" gunshot monitors and "real time crime" cameras all over the place. Enjoyed the video.
Great Video.. The divide started to lighten with the closing of the steel mills back in the day. The die hard's had to move out of their beloved city to find work leaving only the retired elder generation that died off over time. But yes, still a city divided, and us native Clevelanders still feel the pride that our city is 2 cities in 1.. We like it that way.. =D Those of us that us that are old enough to remember anyway Ha!
Cleveland is really different when it comes to East and West sides. I have lived in both sides of Cleveland. Both sides of Cleveland have good and bad things. The East side has more entertainment and rich people, the West side is more suburban.
Interesting perspective, but first of all downtown (as in the central business district) is its own thing. The West side might start at the river, but the East Side starts outside of downtown - or at the very least East of Public Square. The more desirable areas of the West Side are oriented towards the Lake and Downtown. The desirable of the East Side are oriented towards University Circle and the Chagrin River Valley. The culture on the East Side is more institutionalized, but the culture on the West Side is more bohemian and entrepreneurial. Except for University Circle and Shaker Square, I'd say the West Side has more of an urban feel. As you noted in the video there are more walkable neighborhoods and adhere to a grid street development. Lakewood is the most densely populated city in Ohio and one of the most densely populated in the country. The worst neighborhoods in Greater Cleveland are all on the East Side, and it's not limited to East Cleveland, because it includes St. Clair - Superior, Kinsman, Central, Hough, Fairfax, Slavic Village, Glenville, Mt Pleasant, Maple Heights, Euclid, etc. In the past year the Plain Dealer had an article that property values have become definitively higher on the West Side than the East Side. Price per square foot is much lower on the East Side and its not just the inner-city neighborhoods, because Rocky River for instance is more expensive than Shaker Heights. As you might have deduced - I'm a lifelong West Sider, but the reality is that in the past 30 years the West Side is more desirable.
@@queenbee3647 i went to school at solon and the only reason the school system seems awesome is because they give the students the answers to test questions to make their numbers look better
I lived in Summit county for over a decade and traveled to Cleveland to work. The problem with all the cities in NE Ohio is all the cities in NE Ohio. That part of Ohio could completely change the quality of life of the citizens by consolidating towns and reducing the ridiculous number of separate municipalities.
I lived in Westlake, right on the border with Bay Village, in the Westchester Townhouses from 2000-02, worked in Bedford Heights, and aside from Shaker Heights, there's no way in hell I'd ever live on the East Side....heading downtown from the west side, I wouldn't mind livin in the Tremont area, that was just startin to become gentrified when I enlisted in the Army and left Cleveland in '02...
FEB 2022. NY NY. What is entry level for rental 1 br. No car, nearby shopping, Reasonably safe to come and go at any time. Transit to downtown. Am in rent regulated apt. here at less than half market rate. Retire to Cleveland, late 2022 or into 2023? ! Any information appreciated.
When my people were in Cleveland from 1912-54 they lived on Euclid Ave, and also on Superior Ave (I don't know the Addy's). Dad graduated from Cathedral Latin in 26. I have no idea where that is either. I was up there in 88 and kept getting lost.
"They're moving east, west, north, south". Well, moving north of Cleveland would make for interesting living. I guess you could put up a ice cabin part of the year 😂
The East side is far more run down and crime infested. I came up in the South burbs of the West side, and would have never considered the East side for a second.
Cleveland architecture is either really cool or really basic… compare Cleveland heights, shaker, and east side neighborhoods to Parma, willowick, brook park
The only thing I disagree with is your last sentence. The west siders are by far more snobby because they like to lump the entire east side with East Cleveland. Other then that great video
Your just about right but I would break down east and west by food and restaurants as well. Also the Browns Stadium is considered the west side of Cleveland.
@@apispraetorium3275 I would consider west 9th to east 9th and from lake Erie down to the inner belt to be down town and neither east or west. 77 is the dividing line south of the inner belt.
@@ScottCleve33 I would definitely agree with the north and south borders of Downtown, but the east-west divide has always been the Cuyahoga River, and Playhouse Square plus CSU definitely count as Downtown Cleveland.
@@apispraetorium3275 CSU and Playhouse Square are probably more of an extension to downtown. For the most part downtown ends about East 9th. Also I wouldn't count the flats as downtown.
Born and raised in Cleveland. I always felt that the west side was in the Midwest and the East Side was East coast.
That's a great way of describing it. Back in the eighties, I moved from the Westside, Westlake to be exact to Shaker. My Jewish friends called the west side farmland. I laughed, but back then the east side had more diversity than the west side. I do like both sides, But
Continued, but the east had an old city feeling that the west lacked.
I lived in Willowick for several years and your Midwest/East Coast description is close to accurate and I would agree with it.
@@faithfulforever6331 I always felt this way, and further south in the Cleveland area is like Appalachia.
@@luisasantiagogross7201 Thanks, I always felt this way. It's not good or bad, just a perception that I had.
Cleveland is two cities that share a downtown.
I know somebody who lives near Lutheran and they are convinced they live downtown, I said, if you lived under that bridge on the other side of the river it would be downtown. lmao.
SOUTHSIDE! I love Medina County!
@@williamholloway2564 The hospital?
Two cities? Cleveland and Pittsburgh
@@corchem Medina is Medina. Not a south side of Cleveland.
You know you're from the Cleveland area when you measure distance in time.
I’m from Cleveland definitely true!
I don’t think that is exclusive to Cleveland
@@RudyLib926 Ha! You are absolutely correct no it is not, but it at least seems to be more common around here in my "unscientific poll". A new out of state coworker was in town and he asked me how far away something was and I told him in minutes rather than distance. He laughed and said he asked how far, not how long to get there. He said that's not the first time he noticed someone doing the same with directions here. My uncle who grew up in CLE but lives in California said he noticed that too.
We do it further south as well. Ten miles by car is nothing, unless it takes you 20 minutes to drive it
That's actually common in a lot of places.
The east side of Cleveland gets a LOT more snow than the west side and I can tell you exactly where it starts - East 185th street. You can be driving with good weather heading east from downtown, then as soon as you reach East 185th street, it is white out. I saw this happen many, many times.
Haha good to know! I’ll have to pay attention next time
@@livinginnortheastohio8643 You spoke about all of a sudden coming into a wall cloud of snow and I've seen that many times driving down 90 right at E. 185th street. Either the lake shoreline makes a sudden turn in that area or there is a rise in elevation or something else is going on, but that is always where I saw that wall cloud of white out snow, just as you mention.
I remember when I first came to Northeast, Ohio many years ago, I stayed overnight in a hotel in Chagrin Falls. I didn't know at the time that I was right in the middle of the snow belt. Well my hotel room was on the very bottom floor and it had a sliding glass door that opened onto a small patio. I went to sleep that night being able to see everything out that glass door. In the morning, the whole thing was covered in snow - from bottom to top. I remember thinking, "my God what am I getting myself into!" Thank God, I learned that not all of northeast Ohio had snowfall that heavy!
@@livinginnortheastohio8643 And take it from me, you never want to have a flat tire right in Dead Man's Curve, in the middle of winter. I lived through that once and once was enough!
More rain too
Great video, I literally just got homesick!!! I grew up in S. Euclid & hung out on the east side during my high school & college (Kent St) days. As far as getting downtown, I always cruised Chester in/out when I traveled there as if you drove 30-35 MPH, you'd hit all of the lights. Sneaking through the various neighborhoods was never an issue for me to get downtown, I found all of the shortcuts. When I didn't want to drive, the RTA 41 to Windermere could get me there or 34 to the Van Aken/Shaker rapid Lett in 90 when I joined the Navy, now currently living in the Virginia burbs near DC. The thing I miss most about CLE is it was a large city w/ o being so big. Trust me when I say I could get side to side in 30 minutes or less :) I've been to several of the world's largest cities over my lifetime (Singapore, LA, NYC, Chicago Tokyo, London, Paris to name a few) and we have just as much arts/culture as any of them, but they don't have the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame!! I miss the Flats of the mid/late 80s and all of bars/clubs you could catch a live performance; Blossom, Peabody's, Agora, etc. I visit the 216 often as I still have family/friends there.
Very nicely done. I'm from CLE living abroad, and this was like a nice trip home. I could tell you served in the military. Good briefing!
Thank you!!😁
Me too... A Clevelander living abroad...
It seem like the sun shines brighter on the Westside
Completely agree lol weird how that works
Less smog in the Air.
Factually speaking the east side gets more rain/snow/clouds due to the geography and elevation. Especially around the Chagrin Highlands and Chardon areas.
Lifelong suburban Clevelander here...I really enjoyed your detailed look at the area! You gave some really great information--I especially enjoyed learning about how the rivalry between eastside and westside came about--and you did an excellent job presenting it. One question: do you ever show houses a little further out in the suburbs? I love my hometown of Chesterland, Ohio, which is only about a 25 minute drive from downtown Cleveland. If any of your clients are looking to work in the city but come home to a semi-rural town, a place that's also 30 minutes from Lake Erie (north) or Middlefield's Amish country (east), a place almost equidistant from many shopping and dining options in Mayfield or Mentor, a place near to several excellent parks and most importantly, a place that's a bit cheaper than Shaker Heights, Solon or Beachwood, I recommend Chesterland.
@The mysterious Miss X Fair point. The commute can be a pain if you don't have reliable transportation or if the weather's bad.
This is a great video for someone who is new to Cleveland or is planning to move to the area. AK's info is unbelievably accurate. All the major downtown venues are on the east side of the river. However I find that unless you're living in the areas just east of downtown, it is far easier to get into downtown from the westside suburbs than the eastside. Eastside neighborhoods seem to have the charm lacking in the westside. All in all, there's a place for everyone.
Thanks Ramon! you're the man and thanks for your input.
I agree!
It’s funny because I grew up on E 33 and practically lived downtown, but you are right. The lack of highway access seems to isolate the east side suburbs more. You can only take 90 or 480 to get into downtown without driving through all the suburbs and neighborhoods, where as you are 10 minutes away from practically any freeway on the west side, even as far as Berea and Strongsville, and they all connect into the heart of downtown
I'm a recent transplant to CLE from the western US. I work on the east side. Wife works right between 71 and 77 off of 480, so pretty central. When looking for a place, I was really focused on the east side and the very eastern edge of the west side. We ended up in Strongsville, as far south and west as you can go in Cuyahoga County. Everytime I'm on the east side, I lament that we didn't move there, I love the history and the archetecture. I really wanted to move to Shaker. But the west side had more of what we wanted in a home, and the taxes are so much less than most of the east side. And the schools are still among the best in the area and still some of the highest ranked in the state. Though I'm not a fan of my 30 mile commute, easy freeway access helps and I'm really enjoying the west side. Live just off of the Mill Stream Reservation, and the Metroparks are by far the best urban parks system of anywhere I've ever lived in the US or UK.
Thanks for your input! Strongsville is a great city and so is Shaker. West side tends to be more safe and the property taxes are lower too like you said.
from san diego CA here, i live in old brooklyn now !
@@TeamAemrica nice! How do you like old Brooklyn?!
@@livinginnortheastohio8643 it's nice here but they really need to get tough on crime here. They don't seem to have the funding for the police to be a big tuff city force.
Spot on! Raised in Shaker Heights 💕
Cleveland native here, Westside to be precise. Living in the Middle East now for 20 years.. We have a small Ohio community here. We get together every sunday to watch the Browns and sometimes the Buckeyes. Hopefully this is the Brown's year.
Hopefully this is the brown’s year 😂 if I had a dollar everytime I heard that haha but couldn’t agree more!
I'm a life-long Clevelander and live in the Westpark neighborhood. What Alex didn't address is that What is now Cleveland proper started as two different cities: Cleveland on the east side if the Cuyahoga and Ohio City on the west. The separation is part of the underlying rivalry between east and west. Also, one reason for the limited highway access on the east side was the eastern residents' resistance to highway construction. There was a fear that more east-west highways would allow more access to the east from westsiders.
Many of the comments are from "Clevelanders" who are from Greater Cleveland rather than the actual city. The term "Greater Cleveland" is used to encompass Cleveland and the inner-ring suburbs, and can include cities as different as Rocky River [higher-income whites] to East Cleveland [low-income blacks]. Often, people will say they are from Cleveland when more accurately they are from an outer-ring suburb in Cuyahoga County. Some will even take umbrage at being called a Clevelander.
As far as racial makeup, Cleveland proper is 51 percent black, with most blacks living on the east side, though that is changing. Inner-ring suburbs, such as Parma are getting more blacks moving in. Cleveland has had a variety of black mayors, city council members, city council presidents, and police chiefs. Much of the crime in the city takes place in sketchy east side neighborhoods, though it is spreading west.
Unlike cities such a Detroit, that fell on hard times with the loss of the auto industry, when Cleveland lost the steel industry and saw a diminution of auto part construction, it was lucky enough to fall back on the health industry, with world-class hospitals such as the Cleveland Clinic and University Hospitals.
well said!
You are right…If it wasn’t for Cleveland Clinic, University Hospital, and the county supported Metro Health we would be another Detroit.
Much of the crime in the area does not occur in sketchy east neighborhoods. The crime in minority occupied neighborhoods is more policed and reported on but there is not a higher prevalence of it. It’s a common misconception.
@@jasmine7744 you just made a complete false statement my brother is a cop used to work in Cleveland the Eastside is much worse from 185th the outskirts of downtown is very bad for the most part minus little Italy & Bratenhall so you have no clue! That also includes (East Cleveland! Stats don’t lie!
@@jasmine7744 it’s more policed cause it has to be!
I'm trying to move back to Cleveland. Unfortunately for Game Developers, there doesn't seem to be an industry in Cleveland for us. I grew up in Fairview Park and Avon Lake before moving to the UK in the early 00's. My Grandaddy used to run Cleveland Yacht Supply back in the day and was a real active member in the Cleveland Yacht Club.
Getting intongame dev stuff myself after working farcry5 arcade for years. There really isnt anything like that here....
I wouldnt move here especially as a game dev
I remember going to the Yacht club as a kid in the early 90's and swimming in the pool there. I forgot about that place until you mentioned it.
Wow! Born and raised on the east side of Cleveland. Specifically growing up in the very urban Kinsman Ave. Which is right around the corner from Shaker. This video was excellent. Well put together and chock full of info. Makes me miss living there. Good stuff!
I appreciate that 🙏 I just showed a property right over there this morning.
@@livinginnortheastohio8643 Hopefully not in the Kinsman area. 😅 Anyway, I think I will take a visit back to visit family once the snow clears.
@@MrRafie82 Near Kinsman, he didnt like the area so we're looking else where lol I dont blame you, tons of snow right now!
@@livinginnortheastohio8643 Glad he didn't take the property in that area. Its not good over there. 😂 Man I'm glad I came across your video. Even if I'm a bit late. I truly miss Cleveland and every thing about it. Especially places like Randall Mall that's been gone for so long. Anyway, thank you for the content. I'll be asking you what great places to eat at soon. I don't know anymore since I live elsewhere out of state.
Thank you for the elaborate video breaking down the differences that also includes some awesome history of the city. I’m an out of state investor new to the Cleveland market and just recently stumbled upon your channel. So far enjoying every bit of it. Keep up the great work!
Westside: get robbed once a week
Eastside: get robbed everyday
Being from Cleveland
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Pretty much
Accurate
Yep. Best thing to do is live NOWHERE IN the city if you're not a very wealthy person who has the means to live in the affluent areas, and choose, wisely, the suburbs. Avoid most of the ones on the east side. The plague is VERY real and it's creeping all the time. Trust me; I lived in Maple Heights for 25 years and finally got out, but still rent the house out. That dump gives East Cleveland a run for its money in the ghetto department - TERRIBLE roads, lots of crime, and a school system rated at or near the bottom of the state's ranking year after year after year. Garfield Heights isn't far behind either.
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Superb! As an ex=Clevelander looking to move back for family issues, you have NAILED it! What a superb site! Thank you!
Thank you 🙏 😁
We live in Twinsburg but I would definitely go west once my son graduates. All the cool stuff is on the west side.
I agree! Super fun neighborhoods. Make sure you reach out to me once that time comes, would love to help!
Twinsburg is slowly losing its small town charm
@@Rhtjr-je2li For now. Yes they have new development, but areas by the 480 interchanges with 82 and 91 have really built up. If they could find a way to connect Liberty to a highway, it would not be too long before it was built up as well.
@@Rhtjr-je2li yeah i grew up in solon and solon turned into a busier more city like place first, but twinsburg is on its way.
Grew up on the east side, currently reside on the west side. It's like being in two different states.
Great job, young man. I learned a lot. Now I need to visit Cleveland some time and see all these neighborhoods. Thank you, sir.
I’m glad you found the video useful!!!
Be careful over on the Eastside. You get robbed, especially if you not from there.
Also Cleveland's economic restructuring & rise started well before the cavs and lebron
I agree, but I think it was a catalyst
Living in Northeast Ohio haha.
The old money on the East side is also from the original Cleveland settlers. I would put it at 25% of the money that is in Shaker today is from those families. It's descendants from the families who bought the original parcels in downtown when it was surveyed out. They moved East. And they hated Ohio City trying to build up.
As an East Sider who lives near an RTA train station I gotta it is a shame that they don’t have more train lines
I live in Indy now but was born and raised in Garfield. I had some family that lived on the west side and I used to hate going to my grandparents house because it took sooooo long. A good 45 minutes and that’s with getting on the highway. Love my hometown though. I remember when shaker used to be constantly in the top ten of most beautiful cities in the country.
Hey Brian! Wow, they must have lived in Lorain! That’s a far drive. And you’re right about Shaker, it’s very pretty.
@@livinginnortheastohio8643 nope not Lorain but it was right before you got into Parma. I can’t remember what highway it was but they stayed right off highway. I miss my city good times. It’s a shame about East Cleveland. It used to be a nice place in the 70’s-80’s. A little bad but nothing like it is now. Tragic……….
I've never watched/heard/read someone go into as much detail into CLE as you did. 😂
I know! Bout to go into even more detail. People looking to move into the land are lost and don’t know where to start looking.
I've lived on the Southside of Cleveland (Miles,Lee,Harvard) area for about a year. I've lived on the Westside of Cleveland (Madison,Clark,West 25th) area for about a decade or more. And I've grew up on the Eastside ( East Cleveland, 105th,St Claire) area. For solitude and convince I recommend the Westside. For proximity to blue collar jobs I recommend the Southside/ Westside. For more space and spread out living conditions where you don't want to live piled on top of your neighbors I recommend the Eastside. The houses are so tiny and closed together on the Westside.
7:38 I live right in the middle of that snow band lol. thinking about coming down there at some point
I was born on the east side raised over there I live on the west side now and we are two different cities forsure I'm a east side kid by heart and will never change that.
Overall a very good video! I would also add if you speak Spanish all of the Hispanic neighborhoods are on the westside. Also almost all of the Islamic community is centered on the westside. There a a few private Islamic schools as well as almost all of the mosques on the westside as well as a few shopping districts/markets with halal foods. Conversely if you are Jewish, most of the schools and synagogues are centered on the eastside. Hope that helps!
Since I worked all over the Cleveland Akron Metro area and beyond, Granger Twp. in Medina County where I reside is 5-10 minutes from I-76, I-71, I-77, I-271 and the Ohio Turnpike I-80. This made commuting very convenient. Downtown Cleveland takes 25 minutes.
Fairview Park has flooding issues due to the sewers being clogged. also, the pool at the rec center has been shut down for like 3 years and it's not getting fixed because people want the sewers fixed first
Cleveland west side is definitely new money and majority white. The two sides rarely cross over depending on where you grew up.
I would agree. There’s not a ton of diversity in the Cleveland area in general. there are “pockets” or neighborhoods with different ethnicity groups but majority is black and white, with most people stating west is white and east is black.
He didnt name any eastside area all outskirts
Love the video but saying Shaker Heights is like Rocky River is a bit crazy.... I get you for Westlake and Solon and maaaaaaaaybe Cleveland Heights and Lakewood
I grew up in Rocky River and I really liked this video.
My man! Thank you!
Yeah, I grew up in Cleveland and graduated from Shaker...not until college did I notice Eastside doesn't have enough highway access.
🎉 What a great video! Thanks for sharing!
Far East side, 23 miles east (AKA Geauga County) is very conservative.
I grew up on the east side. Learned to drive in South Euclid. It honestly and truly NEVER occurred to me how much of a pain in the neck it was to get to a freeway, until I moved to the west side, and had a freeway less than 5 minutes from my front door. As far as the "old money/new money", never had much of it, so, it doesn't matter to me. Honestly, the entire west/east thing isn't really that big of an issue to me at all. Cleveland is a great place to live, and it has it's pluses and minuses like everywhere else.
Completely agree! The highways are so convenient on the west side.
I grew up in glenville and very easy access to the freeway.
I eventually moved to Cleveland hts and was miserable because it felt like it took ten minutes just to get to the free way. And driving on the roads was horrible because of how poorly conditioned they were
When I moved to lakewood it was great. Easy access to freeways
@@livinginnortheastohio8643
The newly opened Opportunity Corridor Boulevard actually does a good job of connecting the West Side to the East Side at University Circle.
Videos are getting better and better production 👌🏾
Takes some time haha thank you!
Lakewood, Ohio City and Tremont has older architecture.
I grew up on the east side of Cleveland moving around a lot so I’ve been in a lot of different neighborhoods and areas but I moved to Lakewood for 6 or 7 years and now I’m a west sider for the rest of my life I’m glad someone made a video about Cleveland that’s positive this is really a beautiful city that I’m proud to say I’m from, as a kid I hated it here wishing I was from a bigger city like a Chicago, LA, or NYC but now as an adult I appreciate it here more than ever. Also before I moved the the west side I heard more people saying that people on the west side were stuck up rather than the other way around and I liken the west side to being more like the south being that people seem to be more relaxed and easy going and the east to be more like a NYC everybody’s kind of into their own thing moving and going, busy and focused I don’t know if that makes sense or if anybody else feels that way but that’s my opinion. All in all I say all of this to say there’s no best side just preference all of Cleveland is great!
You can say that, living in Lakewood, LOL
@@zythr9999 I said I lived in Lakewood for 6 or 7 years, lived being past tense meaning I don’t live there anymore Sir LOL
@@quinn2163 I got it LOL. it's quite a bit different living in actual Cleve neighborhoods.
@@zythr9999 that was my point I grew up in a bunch of different east side Cleveland neighborhoods and lived in Lakewood for 6 or 7 years which made me appreciate the west side and now I live in Cleveland on the west side and I like it better than the east LOL
@@quinn2163 I see. Lucky you. With a few exceptions, living in an East side Cleveland neighborhood, sucks lol
Old money moved further east when Millionaires Row was on the decline. The Severances and the Wades are largely responsible for the cultural institutions of University Circle. I was reading somewhere how the Wade family was pushing to make the botanical gardens free again. At one point they used to be.
South side is the best side! Broadview and Brecksville have top schools as well - you missed those. You missed parks access too - Cuyahoga Valley, Metroparks, Mentor Headlands, etc.
I know! I love the south side. Brecksville is one of most favorite areas. Im always golfing at Sleepy Hollow.
We love in chagrin falls! East side all day. West side is nice for lake activities, but east side is rolling green hills, country clubs, estates, charm and more established. Both are great easy side just is prettier to drive through. Love Cleveland all of it! Come visit!
As a Lakewood resident I don't consider our sports teams as being on the East side. They feel like more a part of downtown. I feel the same about the West Side Market and The Flats.
As for me i am pretty ok with rainy, snowy and cold weather Cleveland is featured. At the first glance it is comprehensive, full weigh mid sized, beautiful downtown.
Born in Berea, grew up (until I was 9) in West Cleveland, but spent a huge amount of time with my grandmother in East Cleveland... my mom was East side born and raised, graduated from Shaw High
Doing research for sci fiction stories. This video helps a lot. Thank you!
Okay thank you for explaining that because I actually live in Cleveland heights so being a Cleveland I already know that's going to be like up and down the hills and since I have to go to school that way it's so much bumpiness though so thank you for explaining that
I'm from the east side of Cleveland (E. 105th and Euclid). It ain't nothing to brag about.
Thats the hood but at the same time lots of huge homes between (E105th) St Clair, Superior, and Euclid Avenues.
Good video, the one issue I have is the comment about the East side being stuck up. I worked for many years at the Great Lakes Mall and I worked at Great Northern Mall. The customers on the east side were much easier to deal with. The West Siders were stuck up and entitled.
The irony is that my fellow Mall workers were more friendly on the west side than east. But that could come down to an us vs them mentality.
Born & raised on the east side of Cleveland!👌🏾 also I definitely recommend the west side of Cleveland as well
How does one buy a house on the north side of Cleveland?
Canada?
Thanks for the information
I am planning to relocate from LA to Ohio. My work location is Acron, could you please suggest recommended places.
Eww Akron is about 45 minutes away you may want to live in some of the outer suburbs or maybe near the school
i love berea, but its a much smaller town than akron. nobody likes akron. lakewood is great too but its pretty far from akron and idk ur reason for moving
@@sarahbamberger8735 HE JUST TOLD YOU IT'S HIS NEW WORK LOCATION 🤔🤔🤦🤦🤷
East is rough. I've been looking at homes in Cleveland. There's a hard push to buy East Cleveland but they aren't selling to me.
What do you mean they are not selling to you? As long as you’re pre approved or have cash you’re good to go
@@livinginnortheastohio8643 he doesnt want to buy cos he thinks its scary
I live on Westside N Olmstead work Eastside E. 91 and never leave home without my Glock.
I spent my earlier years on the west side (Brooklyn Centre), but the majority of my life on the east side in (Cleveland Heights). I HATED Cleveland Heights but we moved out of my area in the late 80's because my area was very racist. I was black growing up in a white family. People in the neighborhood got upset as grew older when I would leave my yard and walk around the neighborhood. Because of this, my family moved to Cleveland Heights (a more progressive and accepting city). Cleveland Heights bordered Shaker Heights which is a very upscale city and many people in Cleveland Heights (when I lived there) were very uppedy. Cleveland Heights was not very diverse. There weren't very many asians or hispanics in Cleveland Heights, just black and white. The west side has a lot more diversity and is way more interesting. After college, I moved back to Cleveland and followed my parents (who had moved back to the west side of Cleveland). I think the west side is the better area and is undergoing a huge renassance.
I appreciate hearing your story Jerry 🙏
I'm glad for you! One should live where the heart is and where people are nice!
One thing I can always laugh about is MGK says he's an Eastside Cleveland wild boy, but from Shaker
Absolutely true!! Everything is 10-15-20 min away regardless where you’re going lol we all say the same thing
In 1985 I got off the plane in Cleveland to see about a sick relative who's neighbor told me to take the red line to Windermere and get a cab to the condos on Green Road... the poor, sweet train driver wouldn't leave me by myself at the station at 0200am. After an hour NO taxi would come, so she got the CPD to give me a ride. My parent's left Cleveland in '64 a few months before I was born. Dad graduated from Cathedral Latin and Case Western. In the 1930s/40s tge family had a house on Paige Ave in East Cleveland. Several weeks ago I looked at it on Google maps and entire blocks were abandoned. The house was a 2 1/2 story Gothic... it looked like something out of the Adams Family. I understand that the City has "shot spotter" gunshot monitors and "real time crime" cameras all over the place. Enjoyed the video.
was living in east cleveland by the train station on Doan ave ,when you arrived. lol Live in Chicagoland now. Was in 8th grade 1985
@cle-chi We're in South Louisiana and it's a BIG difference. Stay safe up in Shy Town !
Born there in 53 moved out in 82 dont miss it at all, one of the best cities to move out of,,, very depressing place to live,,,,
Im sure the city has changed quite a bit over the last 40 years.
Great vid, from Orlando considering moving up there
grew up east side, live west side now. fantastic analysis on the land.
Great Video.. The divide started to lighten with the closing of the steel mills back in the day. The die hard's had to move out of their beloved city to find work leaving only the retired elder generation that died off over time. But yes, still a city divided, and us native Clevelanders still feel the pride that our city is 2 cities in 1.. We like it that way.. =D Those of us that us that are old enough to remember anyway Ha!
He talked about the hills and winding roads as i was literally driving on superior in cleveland hts.
haha winding roads all throughout there.
I live on the west side, work on the east side. Found good people all around.
Cleveland is really different when it comes to East and West sides. I have lived in both sides of Cleveland. Both sides of Cleveland have good and bad things. The East side has more entertainment and rich people, the West side is more suburban.
well said James, I appreciate your input! Pros and cons to each side for sure.
Good job explaining my hometown of Cleveland, OH
Just recently moved from Florida to Chesterland and we fall in love with the area. By the way we bought a house without looking at it. 😂
The streets dude, the streets! I love watching people not from the east side trying to navigate. It’s just so funny to me.
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Interesting perspective, but first of all downtown (as in the central business district) is its own thing. The West side might start at the river, but the East Side starts outside of downtown - or at the very least East of Public Square. The more desirable areas of the West Side are oriented towards the Lake and Downtown. The desirable of the East Side are oriented towards University Circle and the Chagrin River Valley. The culture on the East Side is more institutionalized, but the culture on the West Side is more bohemian and entrepreneurial. Except for University Circle and Shaker Square, I'd say the West Side has more of an urban feel. As you noted in the video there are more walkable neighborhoods and adhere to a grid street development. Lakewood is the most densely populated city in Ohio and one of the most densely populated in the country. The worst neighborhoods in Greater Cleveland are all on the East Side, and it's not limited to East Cleveland, because it includes St. Clair - Superior, Kinsman, Central, Hough, Fairfax, Slavic Village, Glenville, Mt Pleasant, Maple Heights, Euclid, etc. In the past year the Plain Dealer had an article that property values have become definitively higher on the West Side than the East Side. Price per square foot is much lower on the East Side and its not just the inner-city neighborhoods, because Rocky River for instance is more expensive than Shaker Heights. As you might have deduced - I'm a lifelong West Sider, but the reality is that in the past 30 years the West Side is more desirable.
Thanks for including Slavic Village in the worst neighborhoods list. Why? Im being sarcastic by the way.
Born and raised on the West side. I always say you could blindfold me, drive me around, and I could tell if I was on the East side vs West side!
How is that Parma Town Mall doing after all the expressways?
they bulldozed it and put up a Wall-Mart lol
They rebuilt it into a shopping plaza
I would recommend moving to berea and middleburg heights if your moving to the west side it is a nicer looking area than Parma or brook park
Berea the best
Moved to SolonOhio, the east side and love it.
I live close by in Portage County. I HATE the Solon traffic! Your school system is supposedly awesome though.
@@queenbee3647 i went to school at solon and the only reason the school system seems awesome is because they give the students the answers to test questions to make their numbers look better
i lived in solon for 13 years
I’m from Springfield Ohio and was looking to move over there so Tnx it was helpful
I lived in Summit county for over a decade and traveled to Cleveland to work. The problem with all the cities in NE Ohio is all the cities in NE Ohio. That part of Ohio could completely change the quality of life of the citizens by consolidating towns and reducing the ridiculous number of separate municipalities.
I lived in Westlake, right on the border with Bay Village, in the Westchester Townhouses from 2000-02, worked in Bedford Heights, and aside from Shaker Heights, there's no way in hell I'd ever live on the East Side....heading downtown from the west side, I wouldn't mind livin in the Tremont area, that was just startin to become gentrified when I enlisted in the Army and left Cleveland in '02...
Solid review!
Cleveland sounds interesting. I must come one day.
Bring a gun lol
LOL 😆
East Side put Cleveland on the map!!!! S/O to all my East Siders!!
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Big utw shit😂
FEB 2022. NY NY. What is entry level for rental 1 br. No car, nearby shopping, Reasonably safe to come and go at any time. Transit to downtown. Am in rent regulated apt. here at less than half market rate. Retire to Cleveland, late 2022 or into 2023? ! Any information appreciated.
Bruh Parma & Shaker Heights ain’t Cleveland though 😂
Greater Cleveland area but not down the way
Huh....
Parma is part of Cleveland
@@benjaminwagner8141 gtfoh👉👉👉 Parma has their own Mayor & everything
When my people were in Cleveland from 1912-54 they lived on Euclid Ave, and also on Superior Ave (I don't know the Addy's). Dad graduated from Cathedral Latin in 26. I have no idea where that is either. I was up there in 88 and kept getting lost.
No Euclid reference :(
That Cuyahawga things sounds very Noo Yawkish to me. In the Youngstown area, most of pronounce the "O" in Cuyahoga.
haha you're not wrong.
Good information. Thank you!
"They're moving east, west, north, south".
Well, moving north of Cleveland would make for interesting living. I guess you could put up a ice cabin part of the year 😂
Lmao whoops! You’re not wrong 😂
The East side is far more run down and crime infested. I came up in the South burbs of the West side, and would have never considered the East side for a second.
Cleveland architecture is either really cool or really basic… compare Cleveland heights, shaker, and east side neighborhoods to Parma, willowick, brook park
I’m not from the land but E.72nd to E.105th is my people. St.Clair ave all day. Great video and thank you.
Hi Alex how are you today ? hope eveything is fine with you .Stay safe
Doing good, thank you.
What is conservative about Tremont, Ohio city, Lakewood, Rocky River?!
Rocky River is represented by a very Trumpy Republican Congressman, FWIW
ilive in eastcleveland but i can live any where
Being from Cleveland this is a Great video very spot on 👌🏽🔥
Thank you!
The only thing I disagree with is your last sentence. The west siders are by far more snobby because they like to lump the entire east side with East Cleveland.
Other then that great video
Generalizing and not entirely true across the board, I appreciate it!
Your just about right but I would break down east and west by food and restaurants as well. Also the Browns Stadium is considered the west side of Cleveland.
Nobody considers anything Downtown as east or west, it’s just Downtown.
@@apispraetorium3275 I would consider west 9th to east 9th and from lake Erie down to the inner belt to be down town and neither east or west. 77 is the dividing line south of the inner belt.
@@ScottCleve33 I would definitely agree with the north and south borders of Downtown, but the east-west divide has always been the Cuyahoga River, and Playhouse Square plus CSU definitely count as Downtown Cleveland.
@@apispraetorium3275 CSU and Playhouse Square are probably more of an extension to downtown. For the most part downtown ends about East 9th. Also I wouldn't count the flats as downtown.
Looking at multi-families in the zip codes of 44110, 44120, 44111, 44102 and 44109 are these respectable areas?
Yes, some of those areas are going to be quite expensive though. All respectable areas though.
Im close to 11,02 and 09 there good Investment
This is great. Subscribed