picking a type r as soon as my 2018 si is paid off, so in about 6 months... but just as i said when the type r first released, im not paying a penny over sticker
its grown on me. when i first saw it i hated it, but now its cool. I own an ST so i am biased towards my big brother the RS. Only thing i would change with the Type R is equal sized exhaust tips lol 3 tips is okay if they were all the same size
That your opinion is wrong and you continue to show your bias towards dumb american cars. There is NOBODY objective that knows about cars, that has driven both the RS and Type-R that has come out saying "yeah the RS is more fun". Dare you to show me someone outside the autistic RS forums that believes that and is credible/reputable car guy.
Woah Pepe, did your Corolla get cut off by an RS or something? Take it easy pal, go back to vaping in the Home Depot parking lot for a few hours until curfew.
I'd be happy to pay MSRP and nothing more. the suspension is amazing, the brakes are powerful, the gearbox is a joy to row, and the torque is delicious. It makes a great daily even though it looks like an anime haircut. Great car even if its lame in the sound department
Agreed. Hopefully, in 2019, we get different Type R variants causing the current CTR's to go down. "Anime Haircut" style turns heads everywhere you go, feels awesome.
Love days I can drive my Type R!!! 45 year old women and have been wanting one since I heard they were coming to the US. My family surprised me with it for Mother’s Day! Best, most fun driving $36,000 car out there!
This! I just picked up my Civic Type R today... Had to have one after test driving it.. just bites into the pavement almost as if it had AWD but it is FWD. It is so light and the Aero parts are surprisingly functional. The interior is also amazing and feels high quality. I still will keep my WRX STI as my daily becuase I want to keep the Type R nice, but on weekends and nice weather I will enjoy it!!
I agree. This 45 year old man loves his as well. Stylish, nice torque and power. My wife is an elementary school teacher and picky and she even loves it! Good job Honda
Having owned mine for a year, I’ve enjoyed it much more than I thought I would. It’s driving dynamics are way higher than its price would suggest and it’s special enough to make you look back at it every time you park.
"ItS JusT a CiVic" yeah and an evo is a lancer, an sti is an impreza, a focus RS is a focus, a golf r is just a golf, srt4 is just a neon... Edit: the new Sti is now not considered an Impreza at all. Wrx is a separate car.
@@samsmith4067 Removing the Impreza name from the wrx sti platform is a recent thing. Throughout all of history it has been done this way. These cars are just sports oriented versions of it's regular self. And what's the point of stating people aren't going to buy this car because it has the civic badge attached to it, when you can just look at sales numbers which tell you otherwise. This car was meant to target car enthusiasts, that know about cars and its history. If it was completely new platform with no history, it would be hard to target new customers and to try to teach them why your car is the best out of all other choices. Honda knows this, which is why they used their official Nurburgring laptime as a way to sell this car. Target market = car enthusiasts.
integra type r sold for $68k at barrett jackson the other day...... love the civic type r, will own 1 before i die for sure...... side note we should all be greatful that Type R finally made it to US and they did not detune it......
I picked up a used one at a “bargain”, relatively speaking. It is a 2017 and had 30k on it at time of purchase. It’s been rock solid with zero issues, and is an absolute blast to drive. I commute almost 80 miles five times a week, and I’m averaging about 30 mpg every day. The worst things about the car are the atrocious resolution in the back up camera and lack of tactile controls. Otherwise, this is about as perfect as you can get if you want fun, practicality, and dependability, in my opinion.
The CTR is super fun and is exactly what you want for a daily driver. Aside, from being incredibly fun on the street, you can easialy drive it to the track and drive right onto the track and still put down lap times you will be proud of. It really doesn't deserve any hate, in the end it's still a Civic but it's also the literal best Civic you could ever own.
@@sbklvr Agreed, so many people heavily modify them and only end up making them worse. The only thing I'm doing to mine is Exhaust, Mugen Steering Wheel and maybe an intake just for sound.
Pet peeves 1: NO Loose change jingling 2: NO Loose tire wrench or jack 3: NO Brake dust on rims 4: NO Dirty Floor mats 5: Never pay over MSRP! AGAIN NOTHING ROLLING AROUND EVERY TIME YOU CORNER!!! LOVE THE VIDEOS👍🆙
I wonder how these engines will hold out when people start swapping the turbo and boosting the hell out of the engine, Hondas are already roll race monsters the new type r could be a beast on the streets.
Another great review. The dealers ruin the demand for special, fantastic cars like these by putting ludicrous mark-ups on them. They probably kill half if not more potential sales by putting them into a totally different price bracket than they were intended for. It would be great if the manufacturers would prohibit them from being allowed to get the cars unless they agreed to not gouge the buyer, and the higher sales would make another generation of production more viable instead of killing it off after one meaning more great cars for us all to enjoy.
I love this car just bought one less than a month and I love it. Fast and handling real well also very comfortable to drive. If something I like and I really want it never be too expensive...For 306HP and 295 torque. 13.7 sec quarter mile @105.9 miles and 0-60 mph 5.2 seconds. I like the best about this car is that it so quiet to drive. No ones will know until you drop the gear and fly on them. Silence is always a great killer! With loud exhaust sounds = more tickets from the cops if you wanted to drive daily.
It’s an amazing car without a doubt; that’s why I bought one - one of the few cars I’ve ever driven that always leaves a smile on my face and that I always look at when I park it and walk away
I have a DC2 GSR with a hole in the muffler and rusted cat covers. Sounds amazing and pulls amazingly awesome. 178HP naturally aspirated short gears and 37 MPG. Awesome!
7:48 As far as I've been aware, Honda decided to keep the Type R FWD in order to keep the weight down and yada yada "pure driving experience". I still would, like, totally sleep with the thang though.
Yep, they are great fun to drive:) mate traded his 2010 EVO10 in on one. About the same power standard, which the EVO was not:) About 450 horses were easily let loose! All wheel drive in the EVO which in my humble opinion is a more fun car to drive. I did a midnight run from Sydney to Melbourne in it sitting at 245 to 260 KPH for long stretches during which incredible amounts of petrol was used,lol. Think i topped out at 270 odd a few times. At that speed the EVO feels totally stable, mate was comfortable enough to go to sleep:) The Honda to me lacks personality even though its quick and very nimble, and brakes as well as the EVO. No torque steer at all, very nice, but lacks feel that the EVO had! No noise, very quiet which i dont mind. Ime not a kid who wants a "look at me" roar! The EVO on the other hand absolutely screams at 7500 revs. It really sounds incredible. Love that engine. It can be tuned up to ridiculous power levels, much higher than the 450 it had! Yet to be seen what the type R will produce as its still under warranty so no tuning:) I got pulled by the cops at 3am around Albury Wodonga on the Sydney Melbourne run. Because of trucks on the other side of the highway i was on low beam a lot. I never saw the cop car till i was nearly on him at 245KPH! The 4 wheel 12 inch Brembos pulled it down so fast as i overtook him i was down to 110 KPH,lol He pulled me over. Smoke was pouring from under the EVO from the hard stop. Cop comes up to the window, looks at me with a sort of pissed off smile and says.."You guys have been fangin this thing a bit havent you"..Priceless,lol Jeezuz i must have come up so fast in his rear view mirror,lol. No charges, thank god. If he had got me at 245 it would have been straight into the lockup,lol..Great brakes on the EVO:) havent really had a chance to test the type R yet! Sydney to Melbourne in 5 and a half hours in the EVO including petrol stops! Its normally a nine hour drive:/ Cost of the Type R in Australia, 55000$ AUD
Enjoyed your video. My bone stock 2018 CTR- no drone. Not as loud as it could be, but I can hear it. Per my wife it is much louder from outside the car. She can hear me coming up the street. Fairly quiet if you're not revving it, but that makes it easy to live with. Best car I have ever owned. A smaller turning circle and more front lip clearance is lip lift would be nice. Never mind, pneumatics add weight. That and a rear cross traffic monitor. Don't miss lane keep, etc. This is a keeper. In a world of 'luxury' 'performance' cars that cost too much, with too much weight, no manual option, sucky storage and back seat legroom, and lesser seats, the Type R stands alone. I paid $ 35K for a two year old '18 with 13K miles. Worth every dime. Two years later, now with 31,000 miles, it is worth $5,000 more than I paid for it in 2020. So yeah, it's worth it.
@AOMechMarine AOMechMarine bruh then you would fall in love with my suburban. I took out the 3rd row seats and fold down the 2nd row.... I literally have a room in my car ;)
I would pay the money. I just bought a 2018 Civic Si and it’s really really good in the mountains. I’ve owned 4 different years of the Si and the 18 is the best so far. I imagine the type r rips even harder.
Great review, David. I totally agree with you that the dealers want to mark up certain cars, which kills their appeal. I just recently bought a 2018 Focus RS. The first dealer I checked with wanted $3,000 OVER window sticker. Ridiculous! So I called the dealer that I bought my 2015 Ecoboost Mustang from and they came through. $1,200 UNDER window! So I bought it and I love driving it. Keep up the good work. I considered the Type R too, before I bought the RS.
I was going to get the type r but when I went to the Honda dealership they had this beautiful 2008 evo with 18k miles and instantly changed my mined and I don’t regret it even with less horsepower the awd is nice to have
I bought one in August. I paid 1k over sticker, waited 4 months for it to come in. I love the car for what it is, and I think at 35k it’s right on the money for what it does. My alternative is M2 Comp but that’s at 58k....
The Honda dealer associated with the set of dealers I work for has to be one of the few out there that doesn’t throw the crazy markup on the CTRs they get and they all have been sold within two weeks either at or slightly above MSRP. Sad to think of all the cool cars killed off too early because of greedy dealers.
I really love the Civic as a whole. The community may be terrible, but there's always that rare occasion that you meet a _good_ and _respectible_ Civic owner.
I got mine at sticker!! It’s really a great all around car. Power is on point. The car’s suspension is adjustable and tight. The brakes are amazing and the convenience of a 4 door and a hatch... Cmon!!
Is it me or do modern day vehicles have unnecessarily big wheels? Personally I think 17's would look good. Stock wheels seem too big and disproportionate to me
Ive always been a Honda fan boy, owned 92 prelude with an H22, 2008 civic si, 2005 s2k, everything changed once my buddies let me drive their evos and STi's. Boost was far too appealing so I left the honda road and became a Subie dude. Honestly Ive driven in but did not personally drive the new type R, if it was AWD, I would trade the subie in for it just because I like going to the mountain in the winter and never getting stuck.. I baseline drone of my skunk2 exhaused Ap2 s2k which I made several 1600 mile single day road trips and I could feel my ears bleeding from drone after an hour, I toned it out completely with music, EVERYDAY! Anyways, Ive been a big fan of hondas attempt at a turbo vtec motor and the honda premium sound system has always been my favorite out of almost any brand vehicle. Great review as usual, I feel many of your reviews can be ever so slightly biased or one sides ONLY because you have driving so many tier 1 sports cars or extremely heavily modded Evos, Supras, GTR. Its hard to feel enormous power and then drive something with half the power and still get those butterflies while the majority of consumerist are probably grabbing a Type R while coming from a regular Si or a toyota camry haha. Great review, im not hatin at all, keep it up dudeinblue!
The exhaust are semetrical as the middle would be in half. Also the centre exhaust actually takes air back in to reduce exhaust drone, everything on the car has functional purpose :)
I have to admit the car doesn't look bad all. Is powerful but is still a foward car. Hondas has a pretty good cars like prelude and the nsx but i not feel like be a honda guy. For me subaru is my pick
I plan on getting one for a daily driver..should be fun I own a really clean 78 f150 custom that I only drive on weekends or whenever the weather is good. Nice review.
I think all new sports cars are doomed in the sense that they can’t be affordable to the younger people who wants to buy them. Like l get that cars have gone a long way, and they’re getting better and better every year, but honestly the market is leaning towards SUV’s, and Crossovers. Hatchbacks are a last ditch effort to try to offer something smaller and more “sedan” like, while any Coupe is usually expensive. Today’s Miata is expensive, The BRZ and 86 are underpowered, and cost almost the same as a used 2014 and even 2015 Mustang GT And Nissan has had the 370Z pushing on without any major improvements... It’s a rant but I hope car companies consider making more affordable fun cars, and try to get that momentum going, or just sell more SUV’s I guess....
I completely agree but what the younger generations wants and what they are willing to pay are two different things. Ultimately if they make a cheaper sports car people will talk shit about it and it will fail. It's hard to hit all the marks just right.
The car itself is fine, superb probably, I just like the other options better, I think I’d take an old evo, sti, focus Rs, probably golf, and then this civic
I’m right with you with the lack of engine note from that car. I haven’t personally listened to a muffler delete one. It I can assure you that there’s no way that it drones more than my focus rs mk2. That thing can absolutely make you poop with the drone vibrations. It also likes to wake up all of my neighbors.
Imagine how perfect this thing would be as a rwd. Why don’t they do that. I know there’s some fwd fanatics but come on, there’s no beating a manual rwd especially in a car that looks that cool.
Joseph Samsor rwd is not convenient to the general public which is why it is less common to see a rwd car in this generation of cars. Plus this car is supposed to be a track car in which awd and fwd tend to have more handling than a rwd.
What is the likelihood of a RWD Civic, there's almost no point in even mentioning it. Same goes for AWD, the Previous Type Rs have always been FWD because the Civic is FWD.
Tim Tran how is rwd inconvenient? I can’t think of a single situation where it is personally. Also plenty of rwd cars handle really well. Just look at the track edition of the new camaros (forgot the name tbh). I think cars should just be more about having fun. Who cares if fwd shaves 2 seconds off a laptime. Nobody races to be the fastest anyway, and if they do there’s classes for it. Idk I see no reason to limit a car to fwd. awd would be cool but again kinda boring. No cool burnouts, no drifting, the car’s computer does all the work, and it’s just bland. An option for it would be sick but I’d prefer rwd over it for sure.
The way i see it Honda knows its already a small sales niche but a dedicated niche nonetheless that will always attract enough buyers because the type R, the Si, etc are such well known performance trim levels so it goes both ways
I just don't get it. 2k less then a focus RS with 50 less horsepower and 50% less wheels driving... I am in a fortunate life. my family owns a Honda and a ford dealership and Ive driven both. Love the interior of the civic but i just can't contemplate the disparity between them. BTW my family dealership sold their first civic 10k over MSRP and sold about 3 RS @ sticker. Oh and i ended up buying a 14 EVO new LOL. My dad was kinda pissed for a while.
IDK man with the focus you can send 75% to the rear wheels. RWD 1000% better then FWD. What kind of conditions would FWD be a leap ahead of the advanced AWD system in the focus?
S R I'll stick with Honda I had a 2016 Focus st the engine blew 2 times Ford replaced it both times had issues start at 6k miles got a buy back on it currently have a hatchback civic will never buy another EcoBoost ford
Cons: -Gutless -Laggy throttle -Electronic stability steers you into a wall -Overpriced -Engine consumes a lot of gas when not warm -performance / economy pick one -paint sucks -resale value is shit -locked computer -no paddle shifters -weighs too much for what its supposed to be
What do you guys think of the Civic Type R?
picking a type r as soon as my 2018 si is paid off, so in about 6 months... but just as i said when the type r first released, im not paying a penny over sticker
its grown on me. when i first saw it i hated it, but now its cool. I own an ST so i am biased towards my big brother the RS. Only thing i would change with the Type R is equal sized exhaust tips lol 3 tips is okay if they were all the same size
That your opinion is wrong and you continue to show your bias towards dumb american cars. There is NOBODY objective that knows about cars, that has driven both the RS and Type-R that has come out saying "yeah the RS is more fun". Dare you to show me someone outside the autistic RS forums that believes that and is credible/reputable car guy.
Woah Pepe, did your Corolla get cut off by an RS or something? Take it easy pal, go back to vaping in the Home Depot parking lot for a few hours until curfew.
Everyone's opinion is different.
And Carthrottle. They thought nearly the same thing. Both are incredibly good cars it's just preference.
I'd be happy to pay MSRP and nothing more. the suspension is amazing, the brakes are powerful, the gearbox is a joy to row, and the torque is delicious. It makes a great daily even though it looks like an anime haircut. Great car even if its lame in the sound department
Tedward “even though it looks like an anime haircut” lmfao best way to describe it ever
Agreed. Hopefully, in 2019, we get different Type R variants causing the current CTR's to go down. "Anime Haircut" style turns heads everywhere you go, feels awesome.
WyreTheWolf if you have a B16 you need to build and but a turbo on that thing man.
I guess it depends on the men
anime hair cut!!!! HAHAHA! awesome! =D
Love days I can drive my Type R!!! 45 year old women and have been wanting one since I heard they were coming to the US. My family surprised me with it for Mother’s Day! Best, most fun driving $36,000 car out there!
This! I just picked up my Civic Type R today... Had to have one after test driving it.. just bites into the pavement almost as if it had AWD but it is FWD. It is so light and the Aero parts are surprisingly functional. The interior is also amazing and feels high quality. I still will keep my WRX STI as my daily becuase I want to keep the Type R nice, but on weekends and nice weather I will enjoy it!!
I agree. This 45 year old man loves his as well. Stylish, nice torque and power. My wife is an elementary school teacher and picky and she even loves it! Good job Honda
I have a civic si, I love it. But for 36k you can buy a beautiful m3 or m4
@@learninglife319 No you can't. Maybe a 10 year old one.
Having owned mine for a year, I’ve enjoyed it much more than I thought I would. It’s driving dynamics are way higher than its price would suggest and it’s special enough to make you look back at it every time you park.
"ItS JusT a CiVic" yeah and an evo is a lancer, an sti is an impreza, a focus RS is a focus, a golf r is just a golf, srt4 is just a neon...
Edit: the new Sti is now not considered an Impreza at all. Wrx is a separate car.
Lol ya he doesn't get the type r hype I suppose. The sounds can be modified by adding different waste gates, intakes, etc. It is quiet though.
Sti is not an impreza
Monster of the East ' go on the subaru website and check lol
BucketBryce sti and wrx are no longer on the impreza platform. No longer imprezas
@@samsmith4067 Removing the Impreza name from the wrx sti platform is a recent thing. Throughout all of history it has been done this way. These cars are just sports oriented versions of it's regular self. And what's the point of stating people aren't going to buy this car because it has the civic badge attached to it, when you can just look at sales numbers which tell you otherwise. This car was meant to target car enthusiasts, that know about cars and its history. If it was completely new platform with no history, it would be hard to target new customers and to try to teach them why your car is the best out of all other choices. Honda knows this, which is why they used their official Nurburgring laptime as a way to sell this car. Target market = car enthusiasts.
integra type r sold for $68k at barrett jackson the other day......
love the civic type r, will own 1 before i die for sure......
side note we should all be greatful that Type R finally made it to US and they did not detune it......
CJ Yang inb4 some final destination shit says "Nope!"
I saw that! Crazy!
Lol.. Plz don't go dieing on me now. I was just joking.
CJ Yang only because it had low miles
58,000 was the final bid. Then add tax ,title, barret jacksons fee = 63,500. Look it up
It needs james Pumphrey screaming vetec baaaaaaaaaaaa. Not enough noise 😢
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KAAAA KAAAA KAAAA BLLLAAAAAA PLAAAA BAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Shift* BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I picked up a used one at a “bargain”, relatively speaking. It is a 2017 and had 30k on it at time of purchase. It’s been rock solid with zero issues, and is an absolute blast to drive. I commute almost 80 miles five times a week, and I’m averaging about 30 mpg every day. The worst things about the car are the atrocious resolution in the back up camera and lack of tactile controls. Otherwise, this is about as perfect as you can get if you want fun, practicality, and dependability, in my opinion.
Technically the exhaust pipes are symmetrical
Not anymore 😂
Maybe you meant bisymmetrical
he means the exaust pipes are symmetrical. the middle pipe is not an exhaust pipe.
Daniel Betancourt yes the middle pipe is straight through exhaust pipe
Daniel Betancourt even then, drawing a line down the center axes it’s still symmetrical, why do people think odd number=no symmetry
The CTR is super fun and is exactly what you want for a daily driver. Aside, from being incredibly fun on the street, you can easialy drive it to the track and drive right onto the track and still put down lap times you will be proud of. It really doesn't deserve any hate, in the end it's still a Civic but it's also the literal best Civic you could ever own.
Honda Vlogs Yes i agree 100%
I also agree 100%. Nothing in its class has such a "motorsports "feel. The Type R comes dialed in, no mods needed.
@@sbklvr Agreed, so many people heavily modify them and only end up making them worse. The only thing I'm doing to mine is Exhaust, Mugen Steering Wheel and maybe an intake just for sound.
Pet peeves
1: NO Loose change jingling
2: NO Loose tire wrench or jack
3: NO Brake dust on rims
4: NO Dirty Floor mats
5: Never pay over MSRP!
AGAIN NOTHING ROLLING AROUND EVERY TIME YOU CORNER!!! LOVE THE VIDEOS👍🆙
I wonder how these engines will hold out when people start swapping the turbo and boosting the hell out of the engine, Hondas are already roll race monsters the new type r could be a beast on the streets.
They already have a problem with heat from the turbo after a few laps on the track. Not sure how every day driving is tho.
TheAcethunder32 Big front Mount intercooler and she good.
Hondas are roll racing monsters?... lol. Unless they are boosted then no
@@F82_ are they not or are they, you contradicted yourself 😴
Bailey Rodgers talked to the guy that makes mounts for has port said that people are already swapping the type r motor and doing bigger turbo setups
Got my type R new with almost ever accessories available and I got it for 49,000. It is a lot but I love it!
JdmRonnieBoii 336 yikes
Your buggin but I hope you enjoy your car
One does not live with the type r. The type r lives with you
TwoTimes 209 did yoda quote that 😂
Got a 2019 civic Si and it’s a wonderful car! For $24K it was worth every penny.
TheGunner197 I love driving my dads new si. So fun to drive
Lived with mine for about 7 months now... and I haven't regret it yet. Full stock, A/S tires on stock OEM wheels. Pure bliss.
Nitto Neo Gen tires? I'm getting a CTR but it's not going to be my main winter car so I think I will just leave the Conti's on.
Another great review. The dealers ruin the demand for special, fantastic cars like these by putting ludicrous mark-ups on them. They probably kill half if not more potential sales by putting them into a totally different price bracket than they were intended for. It would be great if the manufacturers would prohibit them from being allowed to get the cars unless they agreed to not gouge the buyer, and the higher sales would make another generation of production more viable instead of killing it off after one meaning more great cars for us all to enjoy.
I love this car just bought one less than a month and I love it. Fast and handling real well also very comfortable to drive. If something I like and I really want it never be too expensive...For 306HP and 295 torque. 13.7 sec quarter mile @105.9 miles and 0-60 mph 5.2 seconds. I like the best about this car is that it so quiet to drive. No ones will know until you drop the gear and fly on them. Silence is always a great killer! With loud exhaust sounds = more tickets from the cops if you wanted to drive daily.
They will never come out with AWD.... Europe has had the Type R for years as a FWD. AWD is just not in the Type R heritage.
They are making one with electric motors on the rear wheels.
Quetzalcoalt who said that?
@@CGM350 google it
Brian Stormes VLOGS turbo was never a Type R heritage either. Just saying - AWD could be a possibility in the future.
@Christian Mata, ok i'm a bit wrong about it, it's not made from honda or idk.
take a look ua-cam.com/video/ocYd0I1cJH4/v-deo.html
It’s an amazing car without a doubt; that’s why I bought one - one of the few cars I’ve ever driven that always leaves a smile on my face and that I always look at when I park it and walk away
Honda needs to bring back the Integra. This time awd 300+ whp, w/throwback body looks. That would be a home run.
Why the hell would they do that, you’re living in both your dreams and the past...
I've listened to all the reviews on this car, but yours was the most fun to listen to. "Here, take my car!". Thanks for the enjoyable review.
The design grew on me especially that wing.
I have a DC2 GSR with a hole in the muffler and rusted cat covers. Sounds amazing and pulls amazingly awesome. 178HP naturally aspirated short gears and 37 MPG. Awesome!
7:48 As far as I've been aware, Honda decided to keep the Type R FWD in order to keep the weight down and yada yada "pure driving experience". I still would, like, totally sleep with the thang though.
It may only have FWD but I've been beating Mustangs and Evos left and right on the track 😉
its the best fwd ever!why make it awd
@@adamhonda2227 not best one ever, cuz u never know what the future brings us, also i like the I30N more
FlyinGato go back to your channel :D
I seriously doubt you're beating Mustangs, maybe EVOs but not a modern Mustang.
Sure is =)
Yep, they are great fun to drive:) mate traded his 2010 EVO10 in on one. About the same power standard, which the EVO was not:) About 450 horses were easily let loose! All wheel drive in the EVO which in my humble opinion is a more fun car to drive. I did a midnight run from Sydney to Melbourne in it sitting at 245 to 260 KPH for long stretches during which incredible amounts of petrol was used,lol. Think i topped out at 270 odd a few times. At that speed the EVO feels totally stable, mate was comfortable enough to go to sleep:) The Honda to me lacks personality even though its quick and very nimble, and brakes as well as the EVO. No torque steer at all, very nice, but lacks feel that the EVO had! No noise, very quiet which i dont mind. Ime not a kid who wants a "look at me" roar! The EVO on the other hand absolutely screams at 7500 revs. It really sounds incredible. Love that engine. It can be tuned up to ridiculous power levels, much higher than the 450 it had! Yet to be seen what the type R will produce as its still under warranty so no tuning:) I got pulled by the cops at 3am around Albury Wodonga on the Sydney Melbourne run. Because of trucks on the other side of the highway i was on low beam a lot. I never saw the cop car till i was nearly on him at 245KPH! The 4 wheel 12 inch Brembos pulled it down so fast as i overtook him i was down to 110 KPH,lol He pulled me over. Smoke was pouring from under the EVO from the hard stop. Cop comes up to the window, looks at me with a sort of pissed off smile and says.."You guys have been fangin this thing a bit havent you"..Priceless,lol Jeezuz i must have come up so fast in his rear view mirror,lol. No charges, thank god. If he had got me at 245 it would have been straight into the lockup,lol..Great brakes on the EVO:) havent really had a chance to test the type R yet! Sydney to Melbourne in 5 and a half hours in the EVO including petrol stops! Its normally a nine hour drive:/ Cost of the Type R in Australia, 55000$ AUD
My favorite front wheel drive car. A blast on the track because it’s a manual
There is a literally a yellow type r limited at a dealership in my town for 55K. And it's used....
I think I have a Type R and I have no regrets living with!! Brilliant example of a hot hatch that could also track as fast as real sportscars
I’ve wondered if Honda is keeping production low to keep the demand up.
I've wondered this myself. If so, it's a penny smart and dollar dumb tactic.
Well, duh. They game us. All of them do.
From what I've been told, there's only about one per dealer until it gets sold, and it doesn't stay more than a few days if a day at all.
Jacoby Jupiter this dealer had the same type r for like 2 months. People are trading them in because there a car for kids
Enjoyed your video.
My bone stock 2018 CTR- no drone. Not as loud as it could be, but I can hear it. Per my wife it is much louder from outside the car. She can hear me coming up the street. Fairly quiet if you're not revving it, but that makes it easy to live with. Best car I have ever owned. A smaller turning circle and more front lip clearance is lip lift would be nice. Never mind, pneumatics add weight. That and a rear cross traffic monitor. Don't miss lane keep, etc.
This is a keeper.
In a world of 'luxury' 'performance' cars that cost too much, with too much weight, no manual option, sucky storage and back seat legroom, and lesser seats, the Type R stands alone.
I paid $ 35K for a two year old '18 with 13K miles. Worth every dime.
Two years later, now with 31,000 miles, it is worth $5,000 more than I paid for it in 2020.
So yeah, it's worth it.
well cant wait to buy this used for 20K in 3 years.
Sameeeeee
It's either gonna be 20k or 50k. Hopefully the bubble will burst and all of us can grab a deal
You are the smartest man in the history of UA-cam! I'm right there with you!
Well used 2017's are almost 2 years old and selling for over MSRP of new, around $38k. The CTR will hold its value better than 95% of cars.
@AOMechMarine AOMechMarine bruh then you would fall in love with my suburban. I took out the 3rd row seats and fold down the 2nd row.... I literally have a room in my car ;)
I would pay the money. I just bought a 2018 Civic Si and it’s really really good in the mountains. I’ve owned 4 different years of the Si and the 18 is the best so far. I imagine the type r rips even harder.
Love it's what makes a Honda a Subaru.
MARTY MEINEKE stfu
I can’t lie that was kinda funny
Honda That last a life time =)
@@TheSirVtec talking about looks. Take it easy cowboy....
@@TheSirVtec yes because stock Subarus blow head gaskets. Idiots who live on forums blow head gaskets. Not real mechanics.
Exactly right ! Need more fun cars under 40k... Great video man! Keep it up.
Quickest car in its class. Fun little beast.
I drove my buddies type R yesterday for a photo shoot and man was it enjoyable
Honda please make a Civic Si two doors body style with the Type-R engine!
Great review, David. I totally agree with you that the dealers want to mark up certain cars, which kills their appeal. I just recently bought a 2018 Focus RS. The first dealer I checked with wanted $3,000 OVER window sticker. Ridiculous! So I called the dealer that I bought my 2015 Ecoboost Mustang from and they came through. $1,200 UNDER window! So I bought it and I love driving it. Keep up the good work. I considered the Type R too, before I bought the RS.
the design is nice but i feel like i'd outgrow it so quickly
Nice review. I had the pleasure of test driving a type r and i fell in love right away, it's such a great car in my opinion.
FINALLY A REVIEWER WHO SEES HOW I VIEW THE NEW TYPE R!!!! especially the exhaust tips lol
I was going to get the type r but when I went to the Honda dealership they had this beautiful 2008 evo with 18k miles and instantly changed my mined and I don’t regret it even with less horsepower the awd is nice to have
I love these cars so much.
Love it. Have owned mine since June of last year. It's an everyday joy when driving it!
Great review David! What’s your opinion comparison to the S2000? Sounds like your buddy has a great collection 👍
I’m getting one next month beyond excited it’s been my dream 🥹 and I’m so close to being in it everyday
I bought one in August. I paid 1k over sticker, waited 4 months for it to come in. I love the car for what it is, and I think at 35k it’s right on the money for what it does. My alternative is M2 Comp but that’s at 58k....
Good choice! It is a bargain for the performance you get
Lol how is your alternative in a completely different price pool
I was going to lease the M2 for 3 years, then buy it back at the end of lease.
@@pittwm LOLWUT
As in buy the M2 at the end of the lease at residual value.
The Honda dealer associated with the set of dealers I work for has to be one of the few out there that doesn’t throw the crazy markup on the CTRs they get and they all have been sold within two weeks either at or slightly above MSRP. Sad to think of all the cool cars killed off too early because of greedy dealers.
My man David threw a micro commercial in the vid lol ..in & out ..love it ..umma order some car care stuff
I really love the Civic as a whole. The community may be terrible, but there's always that rare occasion that you meet a _good_ and _respectible_ Civic owner.
David are you gonna be at Caffeine and Octane Sunday?
I got mine at sticker!! It’s really a great all around car. Power is on point. The car’s suspension is adjustable and tight. The brakes are amazing and the convenience of a 4 door and a hatch... Cmon!!
Is it me or do modern day vehicles have unnecessarily big wheels? Personally I think 17's would look good. Stock wheels seem too big and disproportionate to me
original type R had 15 inch.
Love it, the only sedan I'd buy. If you have a designated race toy, this is the best daily driver to remind you of racing, in between track days .
I understand painfully how the knob burns your hand 🤚. 100 degree weather keeps hot forever.
Ive always been a Honda fan boy, owned 92 prelude with an H22, 2008 civic si, 2005 s2k, everything changed once my buddies let me drive their evos and STi's. Boost was far too appealing so I left the honda road and became a Subie dude. Honestly Ive driven in but did not personally drive the new type R, if it was AWD, I would trade the subie in for it just because I like going to the mountain in the winter and never getting stuck.. I baseline drone of my skunk2 exhaused Ap2 s2k which I made several 1600 mile single day road trips and I could feel my ears bleeding from drone after an hour, I toned it out completely with music, EVERYDAY! Anyways, Ive been a big fan of hondas attempt at a turbo vtec motor and the honda premium sound system has always been my favorite out of almost any brand vehicle. Great review as usual, I feel many of your reviews can be ever so slightly biased or one sides ONLY because you have driving so many tier 1 sports cars or extremely heavily modded Evos, Supras, GTR. Its hard to feel enormous power and then drive something with half the power and still get those butterflies while the majority of consumerist are probably grabbing a Type R while coming from a regular Si or a toyota camry haha. Great review, im not hatin at all, keep it up dudeinblue!
If they had an awd drive Accord with the same motor I’d buy that over this
Charlie Bennici that'd be like the Taurus SHO. It would be sick!
I'm so glad you mention the headlights, they're gorgeous. I think They come on all touring model Honda's
As special as this, the Focus RS and GTR350(R) are... I'm not paying 10-15k over MSRP. Never.
The exhaust are semetrical as the middle would be in half.
Also the centre exhaust actually takes air back in to reduce exhaust drone, everything on the car has functional purpose :)
First of all, who buys this car to keep it stock? No one. There you go.
Most this car doesn't have all that much going on in the aftermarket
I would splurg. I feel like the fwd aspect is a matter of heritage. It’s a Honda Type R. It’s a miracle of Japanese engineering.
I have to admit the car doesn't look bad all. Is powerful but is still a foward car. Hondas has a pretty good cars like prelude and the nsx but i not feel like be a honda guy. For me subaru is my pick
Prelude ws one of my favorited
I plan on getting one for a daily driver..should be fun I own a really clean 78 f150 custom that I only drive on weekends or whenever the weather is good. Nice review.
the only car that i would love to have brand new... but 50k is to much
Maybe when they first came out, or because of where you live. But I see them sell for MSRP here in PA.
Fabio Viana mid 30s
Not even close to 50k..
At this point the 50k remarks are pure ignorance. They sell for MSRP or slightly above everywhere.
50k were i live, Portugal
GTI with a stage 1 tune and a rear sway bar for the win.
Could you make a video taking a drive with Pumphrey from Donut on the Civic? VTEEEC PAAAAAA or the Turbo supra? SUTUTUTUTUTU
I absolutely love the type r!! There is a guy in my neighborhood who got one recently and they look awsome in person
It's a better daily vs. a Focus RS, however the RS is a better looking car.
I bought one 4 weeks ago, love it and it’s a type R
I think all new sports cars are doomed in the sense that they can’t be affordable to the younger people who wants to buy them. Like l get that cars have gone a long way, and they’re getting better and better every year, but honestly the market is leaning towards SUV’s, and Crossovers. Hatchbacks are a last ditch effort to try to offer something smaller and more “sedan” like, while any Coupe is usually expensive. Today’s Miata is expensive, The BRZ and 86 are underpowered, and cost almost the same as a used 2014 and even 2015 Mustang GT
And Nissan has had the 370Z pushing on without any major improvements... It’s a rant but I hope car companies consider making more affordable fun cars, and try to get that momentum going, or just sell more SUV’s I guess....
I completely agree but what the younger generations wants and what they are willing to pay are two different things. Ultimately if they make a cheaper sports car people will talk shit about it and it will fail. It's hard to hit all the marks just right.
I love mine . I have a 2018 typeR . With a few bolt ons it the best car I have had and I have had a bunch
If honda ever releases an awd Type R then it’s Game Over for my bank account
Love the video! Side note, I used your wheel cleaner recently on my WRX after a track day, stuff is LEGIT my man!
I think there should be an type S version for lower price like the focus st and the golf gti.
Slid Wheel so the si?
Have u heard of the Si?
No until now. Is it available in the UK?
Honda have the Civic RS here in Australia
Civic Si is not in the league of the Focus ST of Golf GTI.
Maybe a full spec Focus ST-line. or a Golf R-line.
Id totally buy one, the only thing is the sound, but id straight pipe it.. put some spacers and some wheels.. lower it and boom! A piece of art!
Civic type R or focus RS??
Ben Kyriazis I would like both
Ben Kyriazis focus RS. More power, better handling. (Sounds nicee too)
@@Oraceon RS sounds nice to who? Helen Keller?
@@Oraceon better handling according to who?
@@Oraceon yea don't think the focus handles better
Nothing wrong with the civic and honestly it’s super reliable and look at the amount of room it has!
A week is hardly enough time to really get a feel for long term ownership
The new civic style is awesome. It’s so cut and defined
I would never get an AWD Civic unless it's an EF
Finally I met gentleman of class
It really is the affordable (to some extent) all around hot hatch that basically covers all bases in therms of usability and performance.
The car itself is fine, superb probably, I just like the other options better, I think I’d take an old evo, sti, focus Rs, probably golf, and then this civic
I’m right with you with the lack of engine note from that car. I haven’t personally listened to a muffler delete one. It I can assure you that there’s no way that it drones more than my focus rs mk2. That thing can absolutely make you poop with the drone vibrations. It also likes to wake up all of my neighbors.
Needs a hks legamax exhaust
I agree with you David. Dealers ruin sales with mark-ups all based on hype. Classic example of shooting yourself in the foot.
Imagine how perfect this thing would be as a rwd. Why don’t they do that. I know there’s some fwd fanatics but come on, there’s no beating a manual rwd especially in a car that looks that cool.
Awd not rwd
Rumor is of a s"3000"
Joseph Samsor rwd is not convenient to the general public which is why it is less common to see a rwd car in this generation of cars. Plus this car is supposed to be a track car in which awd and fwd tend to have more handling than a rwd.
What is the likelihood of a RWD Civic, there's almost no point in even mentioning it.
Same goes for AWD, the Previous Type Rs have always been FWD because the Civic is FWD.
Tim Tran how is rwd inconvenient? I can’t think of a single situation where it is personally. Also plenty of rwd cars handle really well. Just look at the track edition of the new camaros (forgot the name tbh). I think cars should just be more about having fun. Who cares if fwd shaves 2 seconds off a laptime. Nobody races to be the fastest anyway, and if they do there’s classes for it. Idk I see no reason to limit a car to fwd. awd would be cool but again kinda boring. No cool burnouts, no drifting, the car’s computer does all the work, and it’s just bland. An option for it would be sick but I’d prefer rwd over it for sure.
The way i see it Honda knows its already a small sales niche but a dedicated niche nonetheless that will always attract enough buyers because the type R, the Si, etc are such well known performance trim levels so it goes both ways
I just don't get it. 2k less then a focus RS with 50 less horsepower and 50% less wheels driving... I am in a fortunate life. my family owns a Honda and a ford dealership and Ive driven both. Love the interior of the civic but i just can't contemplate the disparity between them. BTW my family dealership sold their first civic 10k over MSRP and sold about 3 RS @ sticker. Oh and i ended up buying a 14 EVO new LOL. My dad was kinda pissed for a while.
honda civic is more reliable bro. And will retain its value better
Awd isn’t necessarily better. It all depends on the conditions and by that i don’t only mean the weather.
Depends on what you want.
IDK man with the focus you can send 75% to the rear wheels. RWD 1000% better then FWD. What kind of conditions would FWD be a leap ahead of the advanced AWD system in the focus?
@@KidSnatchhy The Type R has the higher trap speed. The RS weighs 350lbs more. Your right... you dont get it..
I’ve sold cars way over MSRP and it is usually returned in resale if you keep it pristine, but it cost to be first!
Your out your mind to think Honda will make a AWD Civic. 🤦🏽♂️
Rillest Works We used to say that about Honda turning to boost. Sadly times change.
My beef with this new turbo generation of the CTR is there's no drama. That's what made the old CTR's great
Sti, rs, don’t even come close
this dude is in every Honda video lmao
Great daily till it starts snowing
Rs shits on type r lol drive them both and u won't say type r is better
S R I'll stick with Honda I had a 2016 Focus st the engine blew 2 times Ford replaced it both times had issues start at 6k miles got a buy back on it currently have a hatchback civic will never buy another EcoBoost ford
maybe its the wizard not the wand
Took a CTR out to the canyons, it was very impressive!
hey David it be cool if liked this lol!
Pros:
- handling
- practical
-brembo brakes
- excellent standard transmission
- reliable
- daily driver
Cons:
- no exhaust
- it's a $40k+ civic
- controversial styling (not as bad as Lexus though)
Cons:
-Gutless
-Laggy throttle
-Electronic stability steers you into a wall
-Overpriced
-Engine consumes a lot of gas when not warm
-performance / economy pick one
-paint sucks
-resale value is shit
-locked computer
-no paddle shifters
-weighs too much for what its supposed to be
All cars should be as quiet. Save the weed eater, lawn mower, and pop rocks sounds for weed eaters, lawn mowers, and pop rocks.
Adamurquhart loud pipes save life’s
What kind of car guy doesn’t want their exhaust to sound like an AK like wtf
Nahhhh
Yummy Puddles for real, dude is wack.
Seems like a great car. I always wanted the first Integra Type R. These things seem to be freaking amazing. And I'm not a FWD guy at all...