The 4400+ is an oddball - either a throwaway AM2 or a collectible S939 CPU. Retro collectors covet Socket 939 X2s because they were the first dual cores on PC (alongside the Intel Pentium D which launched the same month), and they ran on the last mainstream platform to use DDR1. Cool if you're cataloging or curating a collection, but if you just want to play old XP games on an old PC, AM2 is more practical. One thing I love about these CPUs is the socket - AM4 coolers like the Wraith Prism work on these retro CPUs without any jank (all the way back to Socket 754), as does the RGB control software in Windows XP :D
I was looking for a skt 939 dualcore Athlon x2 cpu for my retro Agp build, fortunately I found an Athlon 64 FX60 for 11$, probably the only one for sale in my country. The 4400+ goes for 15-18$ here and it's pretty rare, like all the x2 cpus from the socket 939 era.
i think i have a 1.0 Ghz model . it was running windows 95 when i got it but the caps died . I somewhat want to fix the board to run windows 10 on that old of hardware . it just barely meets the minimum requirements.
@@handlesarefeckinstupid this was maybe early 2020 when the caps popped. it was on , wouldn't say it was usable . i really want to try though. should work if everything lines up . windows 10 on Noah's Ark
Funny enough, I wouldn't be surprised if 79 mid 2000s CPUs would be more powerful than some early supercomputers... I don't know without looking though.
@@PrograError They can build a space heater, that in addition to providing heat, will also mine $10 bitcoin for every $200 electricity used! Literally no other space heater does that!!
Agreed. Great OC cpu of all time. 3.6 on AIR. Got 4.0 on water and didn't even bother to push it harder (probably could have). It was amazing at 4.0 already. Then my water block started to scare me (condensation issue I couldn't seem to solve 100%) and I couldn't trust it to just run renders while not in the room, so I switched back to air, put a nice copper cooler on it and was very happy at a stable 3.6 for a few years. Q6600=GREAT CPU
32:38 Pretty sure the "blue can" you're talking about is CRC QD contact cleaner. I believe it has things to break up corrosion(detergents? Oleic acid similar to de-ox-it?) as opposed to the electrical cleaner you use(isopropyl and some standard petroleum distillates such as butane/pentane/hexane/naptha) which is just an evaporating solvent mixture.
I paid $200 for one of those E6750s. Ran it at 3.6GHz, undervolted, until I had to upgrade the RAM (4 double-sided DIMMs was too much for much more than 800MHz). Then, I ran it at 3.2GHz, until a storm zapped the board and CPU, forcing me to buy into Haswell.
As someone who works in PC recycling, most of our CPUs we pull out of machines that old get sold off in bulk because otherwise we wouldn't turn a profit after eBay fees and shipping.
I had a Core2Duo E6600 back then, it was the first build from scratch with my own wages and it blew my mind how fast it was coming from an Athlon Thunderbird ♥
If you wanna keep the AC on, a noise reduction plugin should easily control the consistent ac hum. it's been a while since I have been in that space but something from Isotope should be good
30:55 that stuff is also a STAPLE in automotive work. Relays, solenoids, sockets. Especially in old equipment that's sat, a quick spray of that can usually fix an issue, or at least postpone it long enough for you to go buy a proper replacement part.
I am probly your oldest sub... I was building rigs back when win 95 was all the rage (LOL)... I enjoy your honest reviews, and though I ignored your certain reviews. Got a good deal on a (new i7-11700K mated with 32Gb G skill Trident Z running at 3600Mhz.. and an XFX RX 6700 XT...Prior, I had an XFX RX 570... Horribly overworked, but made a nice secondary heat source,, in these cold Michigan winters..) I am pretty happy with how she games... On the plus side.. I put all this mess, in a Mastercooler RN600 case, (which you seem to liked) So, Yay!!,, It does what I need it to... I know, "Meh effect on the CPU"... Still I am happy, I have a gigabyte z590 ud ac MB, so Overclocking the CPU is probly A moot point, thus far, anyways.. Love your content, appreciate you (all you folks)... Keep up the good work!!
The first computer i ever used was my dad's old Athatlon 64 machine. He built it out of scraped workstation/server parts from his job pre 2005: -Athatlon 64 dual core -4gb ram -optical disk drive -Windows XP -don't remember the gpu although it was starting to show its age in my 2010s childhood, it was apparently quite the beast when it was first put together.
CPUs like these will generally work, I've gone through a few hundred 775 chips that I buy off people stripping old office PCs and bin them for OCing, usually you'll maybe find 1/50 or so be DOA...
From memory I think that all Athlon 64's were + models, as their designation was allegedly what speed a comparable Intel part would need to be running at for equivalent performance.
@@queegfivehundred8197 It took way longer to dig up the wikipedia entry for the list of Athlon 64 processors, and it really does look like they put a + after all of their model numbers. How strange.
We do medical IT work and 2020 started the Year of the Hacker with a bang. A 80+ hospital group had their network hacked and ransomware deployed. Computers going down isn't a huge thing unless environmental controls and power systems are connected. To quote The Offspring..."you gotta keep 'em separated." There's AU in those CPU.
All of those CPUs are useless today, but as collector's items I'm surprised that some aren't worth more. Some of the old dual cores like the Athlon 64 X2 and early Core 2 Duo's were pretty revolutionary in establishing modern multi-core chip design. Single-core 32-bit computing was everywhere at that time. Even after 17 years they're still practically e-waste.
So all of the oldish CPU's tend to be very cheap except for the very top CPU's compatible with the motherboard. The core 2 series was around forever and there are a handful of core 2 quads that have some value and like 1 or 2 of the duos most of the folks that had weird stuff tied to the motherboard upgraded to the top cpu about 4 or 5 years ago. Honestly for test equipment and other computer controlled equipment they can be nice to have. We had a motherboard cap go bad on a fairly expensive router at work. The router wasn't that old like 8 years which for a 4 head router industrial c&c router isn't bad. The new equivalent router was in the $850,000 range, the one we had was running windows 7, but had an old athlon dual core in it. We ended up finding a new old stock motherboard for it, that had a quad core phenom, we actually had to recalibrate a bunch of stuff because of the clock speed of the processor being different.
1:40:24 This is Northwood celeron 1.7Ghz. My parents bought me a PC with this CPU in 2003, it served me for for over 5 years for studying and gaming (warcraft 3, heroes of might and magic 3). I've upgraded it to c2d e8400 in 2008, what a difference it was :O
My first pc I built I worked construction for a summer and bought a x2 4400+ with a GeForce 7900gtx. That x2 was a beast and I was the first one in my school’s computer club to have a dual core. Good times
Steve, you should try portrait mode with a high res monitor instead of an ultrawide for spreadsheets. The cool thing is that you can zoom out on whatever spreadsheet and see soooo much more stuff!
I always check out what the refurbished item would cost when buying stuff. Most of the time I find that refurbished has very light use wear, works great, comes with the same or better warranty than new, and cost half the price. I've got a refurbished Mac Air from 2018 that still runs great! I went out on a limb and bought a refurbished turtle beach headset but when it showed up it seemed brand spanking new. I got into to checking out refurbished tools with my dad back in the day cause they run half the price with the same warranty as new but quality control is 100 percent. A human has touched and tested every single piece of refurbished items. Keeps cost down and keeps some stuff out of the landfill a little bit longer.
Was watching this on my Phenom II X4 975 HTPC, almost expecting that would show up in that pile. But as you get closer to the top of the line (even for C2D, C2Q, etc.) they climb up in price exponentially on eBay and sometimes even coming at two thirds of their launch MSRP...
can i get more details on the HTPC setup? I have a Ph II X2 945BE(?) and won the four core unlock lottery, it is paired with a mugen max (a beast!) and 4x4 DDR1866. OCed it runs at 4.6GHz all core ... temp dont go ever over 40C as 45C shuts down the overclocking ... and its just laying in a shoebox ... So im curious what HTPC level i can expect ... also, i can pair it with a RX570 4GB... what are my expectation? What can i get for performance? YT FHD? Steam remote play inside LAN?
@@DeeDeeKL Sure, mine is only overclocked 100MHz over stock (to bring it on par with a 980 which would almost cost twice as much) and undervolted to 1.35v (1.375 stock) and uncore at 2400MHz and a small chipset voltage bump. The rest is an old GTX 670 2GB oc'd to 1033/1833 and 8GB of DDR-1333 CL8 1T. It does 1080p60 in YT and Twitch. Note: a quad-core PHII will struggle with AV1 at 1080p60 so do make sure you have it set to VP9 for HD in your UA-cam settings. Steam in-home streaming works perfectly with 1080p60 as well, most of the decode is on the GPU so you should have no issues with a RX570, just make sure to enable hardware decode in your Steam client.
given how thin the gold plating is, probably not. Maybe 25 cent. And retrieving that gold without a massive operation will cost more than its worth, so... You'd probably make better money harvesting copper from old power supply cables.
Regarding the first CPU that Steve picked up: I had a C2D E6600 as my first CPU. I managed to somehow overclock that thing to 3 GHz while using what I assume to be the stock heat sink after I got a new PC. It was still really slow when I did it because it was about ten years old at that time but I was impressed with its overclockability especially given that the temps were still manageable with a stock heat sink (though said heat sink was double the height of the modern stock heat sinks)... (I hope there isn’t some other "E6600" CPU from back in the day that I could have confused that with.)
My first CPU was a pentium 2 MMX @350mhz, not that I'm way older anything, I built my first PC from stuff I found in the scrap yard at 13 y.o. eventually upgraded that to a p3 coppermine at 1Ghz which enabled me to skip P4 entirely. My first build with new components used an Athlon II x2 245 and a radeon HD 4850, which was an insane jump up.
Wish I'd watched this live. Totally would've bought something from the store and if I'd gotten a CPU and it was in usable condition, I'd have totally built a rig around it.
I hope you see this! I'd like to offer some info on the AMD's you've found. It took me down memory lane. I had them when I was 12. I was delivering news papers every saturday (two routes, used all day) to buy these CPU's, and I say these because I burned a few. There were two models. Socket 939 being the ones I went with. If you had an older socket 939 motherboard that went with the Athlon 3800+ you could actually slot in these athlon x2 4200 - 4800+ and still run them, just with one core. The biggest difference was the VGA connection, where the socket AM2 variant had PCIe x16 (gen 1) and socket 939 had AGP x8. I build a 939 system, where the BIOS couldn't tell which CPU it was, but still ran on one core. I updated the BIOS and destroyed that motherboard, having to buy another. This was about the time where I had ATI X850 XT PE GPU. What was very funny was that this was about the time where Half Life 1 was the big thing, and everybody played counter-strike 1.6 using that new steam thing (If anyone remember SuperHero MOD and Warcraft mods, I was a huge part in building those mods, especially the coding). But the real funny part was that the GoldSrc engine the game ran on had no idea how to handle dual core, and if two cores were assigned to the game it would run double speed, effectively giving you speedhack in the game, also on VAC (Valve Anti Cheat) servers, and you didn't get a ban. It was patched later, but that half year of free speedhack was quite the experience for 14 year old little me. I rebuild the system various times, made my own full acrylic blue UV reactive case, and descovered overclocking, burning the 4400+ within a day, and got a new 4800+ (basically ALL my money), this time mildly overclocking it. I actually don't remember off the top of my head, but I believe socket 939 was DDR1, and AM2 was DDR2, so there were two CPU's with the same name, but vastly different. Also, I have been media and actually saw you guys in Taiwan a few times. I was there about 5 years in a row doing a danish-only media. I never spoke to any of you as you all seem extremely busy and serious when on location so didn't want to disturb you guys, just wanted to tell that story too! This media got me into XOC, having multiple phase changers, and even a cascade imported from Italy that can go down to -120. Also doing nitrogen as hobby now, and also just wanted to say that I used to really love your XOC streams. Sometimes I would be XOC'ing on same hardware as you while watching your streams in the past. I never posted anything though, just letting you know (if you see this) that you have kept a small spark alive in me as well, and still doing XOC but money is a bit tight. I used to get the hardware like you from the media part, but now I have to buy it so I won't follow and XOC same hardware anymore. Thanks for it all!
Had a athlon 64 3000 that I overclocked to 3ghz from 1.8. Most people back then though were picking up opteron 165's or 170's, since they overclocked so well, and were dual core. And yes 939 was ddr 1, and am2 was ddr2...kind in the name.
@@TPColgett biggest thing now days is delidding them since the thermal paste is dried out by now. I know back in the day I ran it without a IHS with a waterblock.
@@blubaustin1 Very good to know I didn't know if these were sauttered or not and I don't have a setup for delidding these kinds of CPU's. I do delid and liquid metal all of my 775 / 771 projects. So what's it look like for an opteron, am I talking razor blade and extreme anxiety and patience? LoL
@@TPColgett I did it with a razor blade back in the day. I heard some doing it with a piece of plastic and some with floss. Just be careful with the blade, I sliced open my thumb doing that mod.
I'd really love a retro build! Or even a retro build series. I've been thinking of building a Windows XP gaming rig, CRT monitor and all to play old games like Diablo 1/2, Oblivion, etc as a kind of nostalgia machine. I'd love to have a reference/resource and guide in how to build a high-quality and reliable gaming rig using old/rescued hardware. Thanks!
Every outlet in the wall behind Steve has different heights, sizes, none of them are aligned and some of them are crooked... 😱 Just kidding, I love that you are streaming again!
I found your channel a few months ago and have been watching ALL of your past content as I just had a total hip replacement and don't get PTO sooo,, moving on. I am A+ certified and have not built a system since AMD hit 1GHz. That being said, ALOT has changed and because of the content you put out I feel like I have "caught up" on the current tech. I built an R5 3300G with a 2080 OC edition and man I wish I had found yall before hand. I have since upgraded MOBOs and CPU/GPU thx to YOUR content I now have an entry lvl/High end system,, and am upgrading as soon as I can get back to work??!?? ATM I now have an R% 3600, 3060ti and want to go with an R7 5800x, 3080ti with a ROG Strix B550-F. AGAIN,, TYVM for your content. It especially helped with my decision on power supply's. BTW, I have an AMD keychain that has a 450MHz chip in a block of epoxy that I received from an AMD rep that came to the school I was going to in 2000. And my oldest machine was a Hewlett Packard with a 166Mhz processor!!
My first PC was a Cyrix M-II. Ran it from 72-pin 5v SIMMs to 168-pin 3.3v DIMMs. Very forward-looking future-proofed Motherboard my builder picked for me!
It's a shame you weren't wearing the same shirt you were wearing when the Taiwan footage was shot. It woulda made the Steve pointing at Steve pointing at coolers part a tiny bit more surreal.
As a kid, I remember trying to see if we could melt marshmallows in a pan faster over a Pentium Pro vs. SCSI HDD (while running defrag). Ah, the memories!
Oh wow, yeah I'll be waiting even longer for a AM5 system, I specced up a system without GPU at £720. But I was in the US travelling from SF to LA and over the Vegas, so stopped over at Microcenter in California, picked up a 5600G for $120 and 32GB of 3600 memory for $80. I'm impressed by the performance increase from a 2200G and 16GB of 2400 memory. But I'm willing to wait for the prices of AM5 systems to come down and will probably look to get an AM5 X3D with as many cores as is practical against cost and power usage. Performance per watt is always a very useful graph to have as you are pretty much telling me what the cost of doing any computational work is.
Honestly 775 socket stuff, especially if set up with a 771 Xeon can still be damn near relevant. I have one with a 1650 and 8gb DDR3 and a SATA SSD that lives in an old Shuttle XPC and is solid little light gaming and Web browsing PC!
Many many years ago, my first custom PC was a DX-2 66. From there managed to just upgrade the dx4-100 chip and the old.... OLD spider looking bios to get it to work right with a diamond stealth 4mb upgradable to 16mb, which I did and managed to get my hands on a 3dfx Voodoo 2 graphics accelerator. From there around the time the thunderbird 1ghz was released I was able to afford to go to an AMD Athlon 400 full upgrade and got my first pci graphics card with it. I think it was 16mb but I can't think of what it was. Recently had to return home and the system's still here along with an ancient SX-33 which I'm using as a stand for my modem. Times, they certainly change but I'm so tempted to get the old dos box up and running, complete with the oooold 5 1/4 inch drive. The beginnings of an obsession that has ended with a 5950x 3090 strix 128mb ram system, with looking at making a 7950X3d 4090 VR system for the lounge and another for gaming in the office. It definitely started an obsession.
Steve, I have a couple of old xeon cpu and would like a motherboard to stick them in and you mentioned a manufacturer but no idea what you said and suggestions where to look
I still have an original Intel Pentium that contains a pile of gold. It is in perfect condition. It came out of a system I built back in the late 1980s. Would I sell it? Probably not, unless the offer was beyond reality. It's part of my Legacy Collection.
Well the engineering sample appears to be an ~2002, single core Intel Pentium 4, 2.6Ghz, Northwood, 130nm, (RK80532PC064512, 80532PC064512), PPGA478, ID:0F27h, Stepping C1, S-Spec:QMT0(ES) engineering sample. Nice one!🤔
couple ideas for the new space. Get a grandfather clock built and have computer parts with the GN logo act as the fact. You could also get a claw machine for the staff and put in the surplus used ram and cpus no longer used along with GN gear in the machine..
Ive had most of those cpu's and still do. I did a lot of overclocking and fiddling around with stuff many years ago Jayztwocents thinks he was first to think of using aircons to cool overclocking haha, he wasn't by far.. I actally have my E6600 setup mounted on my wall. Obviously i cannot post pictures here.
the materials are worth more than a dollar each. People could find use for these CPUs if they were in the right place at the right time, a lot of people have more time than money and would repurpose these and use them in broken systems and repairs. I recently repaired a computer and spent much more time and money than I should have, the next time I just bought all used parts on facebook market place and got a great deal, built a higher end PC for under 500 total more like 400, (5600x/cooler-$100) (32gb ddr4 30 dollars) (6600xt $140) or (3060ti $200) (case with power supply 500W 40$) 350 dollars for a PC that will run all games and most at high settings at playable FPS 140+
As long as your parts are compatible and you aren't wildly overpaying for them, then everything is fine and people should learn to let people enjoy picking out their components without criticism. Offer your alternatives if you want and explain why what you like may be a better option, but it isn't your money so let people buy what they like.
I would love it if you got in touch with DIY Perks (he referenced you in his latest PS5 video) and tested his 'Worlds first Slimline PS5'. It is a beautiful bit of kit tbf.
@@memediatek Fragile? It's stronger than the original due to less space, tighter tollerances and it's made of Brass/Copper not plastic. I'm not sure what you mean by 'fragile'? :)
socket 939 x2 is rare, socket 940 is common so 939 is pricy but 940 can be had for a few $. X2 was a relatively late addition to the 939 family so most systems sold back then were regular Athlon 64s. I can see some people who want to build period authentic retro builds shelling some money for one since this was the days of HL2, Doom3, UT2004, Far Cry, Rome TW, Riddick, CS:Source, Splinter Cell etc. and these are some of the best processors to get for a Windows XP retro build.
usb's are the cause of being kicked out of games with the new 3000 series gpu's so if problem persist then try unplug one of your port's like a web cam or something or switch around your stuff
The blue can is contact cleaner. Powerful but does leave a thin layer. It will blast away literally anything. Will also melt some plastics... Like Switch Pro controllers.. Dont ask..
If anyone wants to catch Steve all they have to do is make a trail of CPUs leading to a small pile of CPUs underneath a box propped up by a stick
It'd work!
"ooh, piece-o-candy" *picks up cpu*
thecputrapisworking... HAHA.. r/thecattrapisworking
lmao
This is a great comment!
5:17 "What's chat saying? ... 'LN2 the A/C'. Well, chat hasn't changed much in a year."
This is gonna be a good stream. 😆
The 4400+ is an oddball - either a throwaway AM2 or a collectible S939 CPU. Retro collectors covet Socket 939 X2s because they were the first dual cores on PC (alongside the Intel Pentium D which launched the same month), and they ran on the last mainstream platform to use DDR1. Cool if you're cataloging or curating a collection, but if you just want to play old XP games on an old PC, AM2 is more practical. One thing I love about these CPUs is the socket - AM4 coolers like the Wraith Prism work on these retro CPUs without any jank (all the way back to Socket 754), as does the RGB control software in Windows XP :D
I was looking for a skt 939 dualcore Athlon x2 cpu for my retro Agp build, fortunately I found an Athlon 64 FX60 for 11$, probably the only one for sale in my country. The 4400+ goes for 15-18$ here and it's pretty rare, like all the x2 cpus from the socket 939 era.
@@viewstar89 A 64 FX60 for 11$ is like a jackpot. Here a FX-55 is 400 € and there is only one...
That's awesome the newer coolers are backwards compatible!
SL69Z - the cpu was just known as Celeron 1,7GHz. There were no models back then, everyone was just using frequency to differentiate parts.
300A was the best
@@johnlangley7521 Yeah 300A was quite good for OC. And those weren't empty MHz back in the day, it was real performance gain.
i think i have a 1.0 Ghz model . it was running windows 95 when i got it but the caps died . I somewhat want to fix the board to run windows 10 on that old of hardware . it just barely meets the minimum requirements.
@@tobiwonkanogy2975 you were running win 95 in 2000 and after? Jeez.
@@handlesarefeckinstupid this was maybe early 2020 when the caps popped. it was on , wouldn't say it was usable . i really want to try though. should work if everything lines up . windows 10 on Noah's Ark
You can seald that dead CPUs in clear epoxy and polish them for key chain purpose
I was thinking an epoxy table top with all the CPUs in it.
Yes
@@staples4335 Wow! That'd be super cool!
I still have my first cpu as a keychain. Just make sure you sand the corners so you dont accidently castrate yourself lol
this is a thing intel has done in the past with failed dies and given to employees. i have a 65nm tukwilla kechain
With this set of CPUs, Gamers Nexus can now build the world's slowest super computer.
Funny enough, I wouldn't be surprised if 79 mid 2000s CPUs would be more powerful than some early supercomputers... I don't know without looking though.
Wait… I thought that is my rig. ?? So confusing it is.
or mine some crypto ... S..L..O..W..L..Y.....
@@PrograError They can build a space heater, that in addition to providing heat, will also mine $10 bitcoin for every $200 electricity used! Literally no other space heater does that!!
@danytoob
The legend. The champion. The Core2 Quad Q6600.
Easiest 50% overclock from 2.4 to 3.6 GHz of all times. Thanks team Blue, served well.
@Kevin L Sims P5Q-E was a budget-minded monster for it.
Agreed. Great OC cpu of all time. 3.6 on AIR. Got 4.0 on water and didn't even bother to push it harder (probably could have). It was amazing at 4.0 already. Then my water block started to scare me (condensation issue I couldn't seem to solve 100%) and I couldn't trust it to just run renders while not in the room, so I switched back to air, put a nice copper cooler on it and was very happy at a stable 3.6 for a few years. Q6600=GREAT CPU
@@occupynow99still got mine. With a UD3 board.
Still got mine! Big ol tank will never die!😂
I had a Core2Quad QX9650 managed to get 5Ghz with air cooling paired with an Asus P5E3 PRO Workstation board. Good times.
32:38 Pretty sure the "blue can" you're talking about is CRC QD contact cleaner. I believe it has things to break up corrosion(detergents? Oleic acid similar to de-ox-it?) as opposed to the electrical cleaner you use(isopropyl and some standard petroleum distillates such as butane/pentane/hexane/naptha) which is just an evaporating solvent mixture.
CRC QD is great in the automotive industry for connector’s
I paid $200 for one of those E6750s. Ran it at 3.6GHz, undervolted, until I had to upgrade the RAM (4 double-sided DIMMs was too much for much more than 800MHz). Then, I ran it at 3.2GHz, until a storm zapped the board and CPU, forcing me to buy into Haswell.
As someone who works in PC recycling, most of our CPUs we pull out of machines that old get sold off in bulk because otherwise we wouldn't turn a profit after eBay fees and shipping.
I had a Core2Duo E6600 back then, it was the first build from scratch with my own wages and it blew my mind how fast it was coming from an Athlon Thunderbird ♥
If you wanna keep the AC on, a noise reduction plugin should easily control the consistent ac hum. it's been a while since I have been in that space but something from Isotope should be good
there's a lot of stand alone VSTs these days to help with that. Louis Rossmann uses or has used Isotope i believe
30:55 that stuff is also a STAPLE in automotive work. Relays, solenoids, sockets. Especially in old equipment that's sat, a quick spray of that can usually fix an issue, or at least postpone it long enough for you to go buy a proper replacement part.
I am probly your oldest sub... I was building rigs back when win 95 was all the rage (LOL)... I enjoy your honest reviews, and though I ignored your certain reviews. Got a good deal on a (new i7-11700K mated with 32Gb G skill Trident Z running at 3600Mhz.. and an XFX RX 6700 XT...Prior, I had an XFX RX 570... Horribly overworked, but made a nice secondary heat source,, in these cold Michigan winters..) I am pretty happy with how she games... On the plus side.. I put all this mess, in a Mastercooler RN600 case, (which you seem to liked) So, Yay!!,, It does what I need it to... I know, "Meh effect on the CPU"... Still I am happy, I have a gigabyte z590 ud ac MB, so Overclocking the CPU is probly A moot point, thus far, anyways.. Love your content, appreciate you (all you folks)... Keep up the good work!!
I honestly liked my i7-9700K/ giga aorus pro, better. Now that f***er I could OC....
The first computer i ever used was my dad's old Athatlon 64 machine.
He built it out of scraped workstation/server parts from his job pre 2005:
-Athatlon 64 dual core
-4gb ram
-optical disk drive
-Windows XP
-don't remember the gpu
although it was starting to show its age in my 2010s childhood, it was apparently quite the beast when it was first put together.
CPUs like these will generally work, I've gone through a few hundred 775 chips that I buy off people stripping old office PCs and bin them for OCing, usually you'll maybe find 1/50 or so be DOA...
From memory I think that all Athlon 64's were + models, as their designation was allegedly what speed a comparable Intel part would need to be running at for equivalent performance.
I think the + models were launched whenever Intel threatened their performance crown with the original Core products.
@@mndlessdrwer Nope, it was there with the Athlon XP five years before Core. See Anandtech's Athlon XP review for example.
@@queegfivehundred8197 It took way longer to dig up the wikipedia entry for the list of Athlon 64 processors, and it really does look like they put a + after all of their model numbers. How strange.
I still run an Anthlon actually. It's pretty good for almost no dollars!
My first PC I built from scratch was an E6300. I immediately overclocked it to 2.8ghz and ran it like that from 2006 to 2012.
Would definitely enjoy some more LN2 w Joe
We do medical IT work and 2020 started the Year of the Hacker with a bang. A 80+ hospital group had their network hacked and ransomware deployed. Computers going down isn't a huge thing unless environmental controls and power systems are connected. To quote The Offspring..."you gotta keep 'em separated." There's AU in those CPU.
With that TV you have in the background, you can now do the "back to you steve" gag to yourself. 😂👍
All of those CPUs are useless today, but as collector's items I'm surprised that some aren't worth more. Some of the old dual cores like the Athlon 64 X2 and early Core 2 Duo's were pretty revolutionary in establishing modern multi-core chip design. Single-core 32-bit computing was everywhere at that time. Even after 17 years they're still practically e-waste.
So all of the oldish CPU's tend to be very cheap except for the very top CPU's compatible with the motherboard. The core 2 series was around forever and there are a handful of core 2 quads that have some value and like 1 or 2 of the duos most of the folks that had weird stuff tied to the motherboard upgraded to the top cpu about 4 or 5 years ago.
Honestly for test equipment and other computer controlled equipment they can be nice to have. We had a motherboard cap go bad on a fairly expensive router at work. The router wasn't that old like 8 years which for a 4 head router industrial c&c router isn't bad. The new equivalent router was in the $850,000 range, the one we had was running windows 7, but had an old athlon dual core in it. We ended up finding a new old stock motherboard for it, that had a quad core phenom, we actually had to recalibrate a bunch of stuff because of the clock speed of the processor being different.
1:49:08 Steve's face made me choke on my coffee. Damn I nearly drowned laughing 😂😂
I feel like no one appreciated the "I brought my own chips" poker joke 😂
1:40:24 This is Northwood celeron 1.7Ghz. My parents bought me a PC with this CPU in 2003, it served me for for over 5 years for studying and gaming (warcraft 3, heroes of might and magic 3). I've upgraded it to c2d e8400 in 2008, what a difference it was :O
My first pc I built I worked construction for a summer and bought a x2 4400+ with a GeForce 7900gtx. That x2 was a beast and I was the first one in my school’s computer club to have a dual core. Good times
Steve, you should try portrait mode with a high res monitor instead of an ultrawide for spreadsheets. The cool thing is that you can zoom out on whatever spreadsheet and see soooo much more stuff!
I have a load of OLD cpus. 386, 486, and some OverDrive chips, up to Pentium II.
I think the gold content is worth more than the CPU resale price.
Just high pass the audio channels at 100hz to emilante the low frequency energy and preserve the vocal. Plus you won’t sweat your ballroom out..
I always check out what the refurbished item would cost when buying stuff. Most of the time I find that refurbished has very light use wear, works great, comes with the same or better warranty than new, and cost half the price. I've got a refurbished Mac Air from 2018 that still runs great! I went out on a limb and bought a refurbished turtle beach headset but when it showed up it seemed brand spanking new. I got into to checking out refurbished tools with my dad back in the day cause they run half the price with the same warranty as new but quality control is 100 percent. A human has touched and tested every single piece of refurbished items. Keeps cost down and keeps some stuff out of the landfill a little bit longer.
Steeve starts looking at the CPUs at 10:45
I work at Intel and we recently chucked about 10k random CPU/GPU chips.
I love Athlon 64. They're perfect, they make amazing pin donors for broken Ryzen CPUs.
Was watching this on my Phenom II X4 975 HTPC, almost expecting that would show up in that pile. But as you get closer to the top of the line (even for C2D, C2Q, etc.) they climb up in price exponentially on eBay and sometimes even coming at two thirds of their launch MSRP...
can i get more details on the HTPC setup? I have a Ph II X2 945BE(?) and won the four core unlock lottery, it is paired with a mugen max (a beast!) and 4x4 DDR1866. OCed it runs at 4.6GHz all core ... temp dont go ever over 40C as 45C shuts down the overclocking ... and its just laying in a shoebox ...
So im curious what HTPC level i can expect ... also, i can pair it with a RX570 4GB... what are my expectation? What can i get for performance? YT FHD? Steam remote play inside LAN?
@@DeeDeeKL Sure, mine is only overclocked 100MHz over stock (to bring it on par with a 980 which would almost cost twice as much) and undervolted to 1.35v (1.375 stock) and uncore at 2400MHz and a small chipset voltage bump. The rest is an old GTX 670 2GB oc'd to 1033/1833 and 8GB of DDR-1333 CL8 1T. It does 1080p60 in YT and Twitch. Note: a quad-core PHII will struggle with AV1 at 1080p60 so do make sure you have it set to VP9 for HD in your UA-cam settings. Steam in-home streaming works perfectly with 1080p60 as well, most of the decode is on the GPU so you should have no issues with a RX570, just make sure to enable hardware decode in your Steam client.
@@equinoxe3d Thanks Eric!
Each CPU probably has more then $1 worth of gold in the pins.
$2 maybe sure.
But you gotta spend more than that to extract it
given how thin the gold plating is, probably not. Maybe 25 cent. And retrieving that gold without a massive operation will cost more than its worth, so... You'd probably make better money harvesting copper from old power supply cables.
Regarding the first CPU that Steve picked up: I had a C2D E6600 as my first CPU. I managed to somehow overclock that thing to 3 GHz while using what I assume to be the stock heat sink after I got a new PC. It was still really slow when I did it because it was about ten years old at that time but I was impressed with its overclockability especially given that the temps were still manageable with a stock heat sink (though said heat sink was double the height of the modern stock heat sinks)...
(I hope there isn’t some other "E6600" CPU from back in the day that I could have confused that with.)
My first CPU was a pentium 2 MMX @350mhz, not that I'm way older anything, I built my first PC from stuff I found in the scrap yard at 13 y.o. eventually upgraded that to a p3 coppermine at 1Ghz which enabled me to skip P4 entirely. My first build with new components used an Athlon II x2 245 and a radeon HD 4850, which was an insane jump up.
Wish I'd watched this live. Totally would've bought something from the store and if I'd gotten a CPU and it was in usable condition, I'd have totally built a rig around it.
Love the new shop.
Steve you should make a resin counter top with the cpu's in
Aww, I missed the live stream. Love the TV logo though! 🙂🍁
I hope you see this!
I'd like to offer some info on the AMD's you've found. It took me down memory lane. I had them when I was 12. I was delivering news papers every saturday (two routes, used all day) to buy these CPU's, and I say these because I burned a few.
There were two models. Socket 939 being the ones I went with. If you had an older socket 939 motherboard that went with the Athlon 3800+ you could actually slot in these athlon x2 4200 - 4800+ and still run them, just with one core.
The biggest difference was the VGA connection, where the socket AM2 variant had PCIe x16 (gen 1) and socket 939 had AGP x8.
I build a 939 system, where the BIOS couldn't tell which CPU it was, but still ran on one core. I updated the BIOS and destroyed that motherboard, having to buy another. This was about the time where I had ATI X850 XT PE GPU.
What was very funny was that this was about the time where Half Life 1 was the big thing, and everybody played counter-strike 1.6 using that new steam thing (If anyone remember SuperHero MOD and Warcraft mods, I was a huge part in building those mods, especially the coding). But the real funny part was that the GoldSrc engine the game ran on had no idea how to handle dual core, and if two cores were assigned to the game it would run double speed, effectively giving you speedhack in the game, also on VAC (Valve Anti Cheat) servers, and you didn't get a ban. It was patched later, but that half year of free speedhack was quite the experience for 14 year old little me.
I rebuild the system various times, made my own full acrylic blue UV reactive case, and descovered overclocking, burning the 4400+ within a day, and got a new 4800+ (basically ALL my money), this time mildly overclocking it.
I actually don't remember off the top of my head, but I believe socket 939 was DDR1, and AM2 was DDR2, so there were two CPU's with the same name, but vastly different.
Also, I have been media and actually saw you guys in Taiwan a few times. I was there about 5 years in a row doing a danish-only media. I never spoke to any of you as you all seem extremely busy and serious when on location so didn't want to disturb you guys, just wanted to tell that story too!
This media got me into XOC, having multiple phase changers, and even a cascade imported from Italy that can go down to -120. Also doing nitrogen as hobby now, and also just wanted to say that I used to really love your XOC streams. Sometimes I would be XOC'ing on same hardware as you while watching your streams in the past.
I never posted anything though, just letting you know (if you see this) that you have kept a small spark alive in me as well, and still doing XOC but money is a bit tight. I used to get the hardware like you from the media part, but now I have to buy it so I won't follow and XOC same hardware anymore.
Thanks for it all!
Had a athlon 64 3000 that I overclocked to 3ghz from 1.8. Most people back then though were picking up opteron 165's or 170's, since they overclocked so well, and were dual core. And yes 939 was ddr 1, and am2 was ddr2...kind in the name.
@@blubaustin1 I totally still have a 175 and a couple of 939 boards including a Fatal1ty edition one I really need to get onto the bench
@@TPColgett biggest thing now days is delidding them since the thermal paste is dried out by now. I know back in the day I ran it without a IHS with a waterblock.
@@blubaustin1 Very good to know I didn't know if these were sauttered or not and I don't have a setup for delidding these kinds of CPU's. I do delid and liquid metal all of my 775 / 771 projects. So what's it look like for an opteron, am I talking razor blade and extreme anxiety and patience? LoL
@@TPColgett I did it with a razor blade back in the day. I heard some doing it with a piece of plastic and some with floss. Just be careful with the blade, I sliced open my thumb doing that mod.
I'd really love a retro build! Or even a retro build series. I've been thinking of building a Windows XP gaming rig, CRT monitor and all to play old games like Diablo 1/2, Oblivion, etc as a kind of nostalgia machine. I'd love to have a reference/resource and guide in how to build a high-quality and reliable gaming rig using old/rescued hardware. Thanks!
35:57 when Steve said "c19" I heard it as "CL19" and I was like "Of course he's allergic to slow RAM"
Steve's lootboxes are cpu boxes.
Today on Gamers Nexus... Antiques Road Show.
Steve reading marketing material is the best thing ever, should be a monthly 3h+ stream of just that.
Every outlet in the wall behind Steve has different heights, sizes, none of them are aligned and some of them are crooked... 😱
Just kidding, I love that you are streaming again!
It's bad AA on Game RS Nexus, sockets are lined.
LOL... Haters.....
OCD screaming louder and louder LOL
@@thomaswebster5060 LOL... Look at this dummy taking this Tongue-in-cheek comment seriously.
As knowledgeable and dedicated as Steve and the team are...its nice to know even they have their limits. Thank you for pointing this out. I giggled.
I found your channel a few months ago and have been watching ALL of your past content as I just had a total hip replacement and don't get PTO sooo,, moving on. I am A+ certified and have not built a system since AMD hit 1GHz. That being said, ALOT has changed and because of the content you put out I feel like I have "caught up" on the current tech. I built an R5 3300G with a 2080 OC edition and man I wish I had found yall before hand. I have since upgraded MOBOs and CPU/GPU thx to YOUR content I now have an entry lvl/High end system,, and am upgrading as soon as I can get back to work??!?? ATM I now have an R% 3600, 3060ti and want to go with an R7 5800x, 3080ti with a ROG Strix B550-F. AGAIN,, TYVM for your content. It especially helped with my decision on power supply's. BTW, I have an AMD keychain that has a 450MHz chip in a block of epoxy that I received from an AMD rep that came to the school I was going to in 2000. And my oldest machine was a Hewlett Packard with a 166Mhz processor!!
I think my first scratch build was a Cyrix (Ciryx?). Always on the fringe was I.
My first PC was a Cyrix M-II. Ran it from 72-pin 5v SIMMs to 168-pin 3.3v DIMMs. Very forward-looking future-proofed Motherboard my builder picked for me!
It's a shame you weren't wearing the same shirt you were wearing when the Taiwan footage was shot. It woulda made the Steve pointing at Steve pointing at coolers part a tiny bit more surreal.
E6600 right off the top! That was the processor of the first computer I built
As a kid, I remember trying to see if we could melt marshmallows in a pan faster over a Pentium Pro vs. SCSI HDD (while running defrag). Ah, the memories!
Could you?
Ayyyy I'm also still using an FX8350! Except mine doesn't need to be under volted.
And I upgraded the gpu from a GTX960 > RX580
Oh wow, yeah I'll be waiting even longer for a AM5 system, I specced up a system without GPU at £720.
But I was in the US travelling from SF to LA and over the Vegas, so stopped over at Microcenter in California, picked up a 5600G for $120 and 32GB of 3600 memory for $80. I'm impressed by the performance increase from a 2200G and 16GB of 2400 memory. But I'm willing to wait for the prices of AM5 systems to come down and will probably look to get an AM5 X3D with as many cores as is practical against cost and power usage. Performance per watt is always a very useful graph to have as you are pretty much telling me what the cost of doing any computational work is.
This is the real reason GN had to get bigger building, to store all of Steves hoarded CPUs.
He literally has them in bags now
Honestly 775 socket stuff, especially if set up with a 771 Xeon can still be damn near relevant. I have one with a 1650 and 8gb DDR3 and a SATA SSD that lives in an old Shuttle XPC and is solid little light gaming and Web browsing PC!
Trip to Taiwan, on the bucket list 👍
a cup full of cpu´s. nice deco
Tbh kinda wish I had some of these I still have a couple AM2 systems and some old LGA775 (including one server I believe not sure if it is 775)
"This is a TV. It's very technological."
What unnatural sorcery is this?!
Good to see you live-streaming again.
I just love how that guy smiled when TechJesus bought all his old cpus. lol
Many many years ago, my first custom PC was a DX-2 66. From there managed to just upgrade the dx4-100 chip and the old.... OLD spider looking bios to get it to work right with a diamond stealth 4mb upgradable to 16mb, which I did and managed to get my hands on a 3dfx Voodoo 2 graphics accelerator. From there around the time the thunderbird 1ghz was released I was able to afford to go to an AMD Athlon 400 full upgrade and got my first pci graphics card with it. I think it was 16mb but I can't think of what it was. Recently had to return home and the system's still here along with an ancient SX-33 which I'm using as a stand for my modem. Times, they certainly change but I'm so tempted to get the old dos box up and running, complete with the oooold 5 1/4 inch drive. The beginnings of an obsession that has ended with a 5950x 3090 strix 128mb ram system, with looking at making a 7950X3d 4090 VR system for the lounge and another for gaming in the office. It definitely started an obsession.
Steve, I have a couple of old xeon cpu and would like a motherboard to stick them in and you mentioned a manufacturer but no idea what you said and suggestions where to look
Thanks for the laughs thru out the stream
58:22
Glad to have the streams back.
Back in the olden days, I worked for AMD in Austin and those CPUs were probably worth more than their weight in gold. So much for holding their value.
35:20 The way you held that monitor Steve, I hope it wasn't working when you held it like that.
Oh follow up! The ones that don't work u could sign but them on ebay live for bids and donate to charity or something
I would love to see a part two where u had a few systems ready to take the cpu's and we got to play will it post.
You and the team should sign the CPUs for the lucky dip.
8:00 steveception lol
You should have a retro PC rig build off with other UA-camrs! That would be awesome!
When the very first CPU Steve picks out is the first CPU I ever had 😯
"one second, Im getting something cool" *comes back with a cold beer*
Happy to see you live streaming, sad I missed it.
I still have an original Intel Pentium that contains a pile of gold. It is in perfect condition. It came out of a system I built back in the late 1980s. Would I sell it? Probably not, unless the offer was beyond reality. It's part of my Legacy Collection.
Hey steve I need old chips, like legit. Are you going to list any by chance?
Dope free stand. Me like the sweet set Steve :) So much room for activities
Mass Airflow sensor cleaner is better at cleaning anything you don’t want to leave residue on. Since MAP sensors have to be perfect to work correctly.
Yes we can hear you Steve!!
Well the engineering sample appears to be an ~2002, single core Intel Pentium 4, 2.6Ghz, Northwood, 130nm,
(RK80532PC064512, 80532PC064512), PPGA478, ID:0F27h, Stepping C1, S-Spec:QMT0(ES) engineering sample.
Nice one!🤔
Stick them in an epoxy table and make a huge profit.
i bought the 6300 in 2008 i believe it was the first x4 cpu they came out with
I haven't started watching the replay, but will a separate summary video be posted?
couple ideas for the new space. Get a grandfather clock built and have computer parts with the GN logo act as the fact. You could also get a claw machine for the staff and put in the surplus used ram and cpus no longer used along with GN gear in the machine..
Ive had most of those cpu's and still do. I did a lot of overclocking and fiddling around with stuff many years ago Jayztwocents thinks he was first to think of using aircons to cool overclocking haha, he wasn't by far.. I actally have my E6600 setup mounted on my wall. Obviously i cannot post pictures here.
the materials are worth more than a dollar each. People could find use for these CPUs if they were in the right place at the right time, a lot of people have more time than money and would repurpose these and use them in broken systems and repairs. I recently repaired a computer and spent much more time and money than I should have, the next time I just bought all used parts on facebook market place and got a great deal, built a higher end PC for under 500 total more like 400, (5600x/cooler-$100) (32gb ddr4 30 dollars) (6600xt $140) or (3060ti $200) (case with power supply 500W 40$) 350 dollars for a PC that will run all games and most at high settings at playable FPS 140+
I am currently running Windows 11 on an i5 2500 non-k system. Works fine but is DEFINITELY showing its age now.
As long as your parts are compatible and you aren't wildly overpaying for them, then everything is fine and people should learn to let people enjoy picking out their components without criticism. Offer your alternatives if you want and explain why what you like may be a better option, but it isn't your money so let people buy what they like.
I would love it if you got in touch with DIY Perks (he referenced you in his latest PS5 video) and tested his 'Worlds first Slimline PS5'. It is a beautiful bit of kit tbf.
It'd probably break in transit with how fragile the thing is
@@memediatek Fragile? It's stronger than the original due to less space, tighter tollerances and it's made of Brass/Copper not plastic. I'm not sure what you mean by 'fragile'? :)
"Deep fried lettuce" lol That's a good name!
慶聲資訊, nice store.
Hope the pandemic pass away so I can visit there again.
I would have made a chess board with them encased in resin of course
Core 2 Duo E6750 was the CPU my first personal PC had. Athlon II X4 640 after that.
socket 939 x2 is rare, socket 940 is common so 939 is pricy but 940 can be had for a few $. X2 was a relatively late addition to the 939 family so most systems sold back then were regular Athlon 64s. I can see some people who want to build period authentic retro builds shelling some money for one since this was the days of HL2, Doom3, UT2004, Far Cry, Rome TW, Riddick, CS:Source, Splinter Cell etc. and these are some of the best processors to get for a Windows XP retro build.
usb's are the cause of being kicked out of games with the new 3000 series gpu's so if problem persist then try unplug one of your port's like a web cam or something or switch around your stuff
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**Random AM2 CPU exists in Canada **
Linus's warehouse🤣🤣
In the upcoming recession these are the kind of CPUs people will be able to afford. Please review all of them
The blue can is contact cleaner. Powerful but does leave a thin layer. It will blast away literally anything. Will also melt some plastics... Like Switch Pro controllers.. Dont ask..