Hello everyone! “EMPATHY IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF INTELLIGENCE.” I want to make a disclaimer that my story is not the story of others. I do NOT speak for anyone else but me. Secondly thank you Shelise & Jonathon for giving me such an important opportunity to raise awareness about extreme religious coercion & the effects of it. Most of all thank you for the kind words of encouragement & giving me the benefit of the doubt instead of trying to discredit and devalue me. Thank you again for the people who took the time to make me feel like I matter. Thank you!!!!!!!! #daughterchasya
It took a lot of courage to do this!! BTW while I think a lot of people do it for absolutely no reason, you definitely DO have a valid reason for not attending family events. BTW, when was this, in Memphis?
Chasya, your soul shined throughout this interview. I'm thankful for you sharing your story and helping us to understand your experiences. Your dog, Oh I love her!!! My dog follows me around when I have bad days.. and he loves me regardless. You are worthy of respect and finding happiness in life. Nothing was your fault and no child is responsible for the actions of adults. Adults failed you and in turn, you are breaking the cycle. ❤ You are such a beacon of light.
I love your name and I love hearing it being said. I’m a mother of 2 neurodivergent sons and I’m so sorry you went through all that you did. Every child deserves to grow up in a loving safe home with parents who accept them for who they are. I’m so glad that you’re away from it now and doing amazingly telling your story and letting people know exactly what is going on in that cult. You’re a strong and extremely intelligent woman. Thank you. ❤🦘🐋🇦🇺
As a neurodivergent woman who grew up modern orthodox this was a fascinating and powerful interview. While a lot of my upbringing was quite different, there definitely are some shared experiences. Some of the things Chasya says here weren't fully translated so I thought I would do a little glossary for those who are curious: -Yeshiva: a seminary. For boys this means grade school, often focused on intensive study of rabbinic texts. For men this means the study of rabbinic texts. Some men do it in their spare time, some are full time scholars, and some go to yeshiva specifically to get rabbinic ordination. -Rashi: Rabbi Shlomo Yitzchaki, French Jewish scholar from the 11th and 12th centuries. Wrote a very straightforward commentary on the bible that is often the first commentary taught to Jewish children. -Upsherin-a celebration after cutting a boy's hair for the first time at the age of 3. -Tosfos Yuntif/Tosfot Yomtov: Rabbi Gershon Shaul Yomtov Lipmann Heller, lived in Bohemia in the 16th and 17th centuries. Highly regarded rabbi who wrote a famous commentary on rabbinic texts. -Kapparot-the practice of waving a chicken around your head and then slaughtering it before the day of atonement. Many communities now just use money to wave around your head and then donate it to charity. Some communities never practiced it to begin with.
I had thought animal sacrifices stopped after the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem. Did the practice only continue (or restart) in certain communities?
@@nerysghemor5781 You're right, but Kapparos are different from the Temple sacrifices. Official sacrifices that were carried out in the Temple, ceased with the destruction of the Temple. Kapparos is a personal , symbolic (and gross!) gesture asking God to accept the chicken instead of the person. The waving around and what is said are the symbolic part. They're then slaughtered to be eaten, but it's not a sacrifice.
It is profoundly sad that as women, no matter what religion or culture, we are blamed for the sins of men! When does it stop?? When will it be enough??
I agree with you, Tamie. It’s sad. I don’t think it will stop, until the afterlife, though I hope I am wrong about that. In the meantime, all of us aware of this injustice, have to try to fight against it, and make people aware, that men and women are equal. By the way, I am a man.
This woman has such a good soul. She gives me chills down my spine because she talks from her heart and she was so terrified. I am at minute 22 and I am already about to cry.
Thank you so so much for this conversation, both of you..I cried through a bunch of it. Man, Chasya, I see you. The fact that you are reclaiming your voice, owning your story, and loving yourself into a place of fierce sovereignty like this, despite ALL of the horror you have experienced, is just unbelievable. Your light is so bright and no 👏 thing 👏 will ever take that away. I deeply admire your strength, heart and transformative power. Bless you.And thank you for breathing life into me and my trauma healing too - it's super hard and not everyone understands.. I cannot wait for part two. 🖤🩶🤍
My mom is retired from CPS, I pray Chasya achieves her goals. I believe she is and will make a difference. I also have ADHD (identified by my mother when I was a toddler) and OCD, anxiety, and depression. The way Chasya puts perfectionism could not be more fitting.
I grew up undiagnosed ADHD and autistic and while not in any cult her discussion of how neurodivergent people are treated are so true! Especially the masking leading to blowup and burnout! While it’s far kinder in comparison in the secular world it’s not by much in many places still! I hope she achieves her goal of social work in these homes and kids who need the intervention of someone who knows what it’s like!
I was fortunate enough to be diagnosed early (around 4-5), especially as a female, but I didn't get any treatment until adulthood. The attitude around me was largely, "You've got X problem. Sure. But I can't see why you can't act normal." It didn't help that I was twice exceptional. "You're smart, so you don't really need these accommodations."
Wow!! This woman is a true definition of bravery, courage and hope. I am also from Brooklyn and familiar with Flatbush Avenue… it’s still not the safest place. I’m so sorry you had to go through all of that trauma. 😢 I believe your story will bring so much hope and healing for others. Can’t wait to see part 2. 🙏🏽🫶🏽. Thank you sharing shalese ❤
Chasya, I could listen to you talk all day! I cant wait for episode two and hopefully more. Thank you so much for sharing your story and being vulnerable and authentic!!
@marip0sa3833 You can see her speak more on whisky no chaser ep 66 where she explicitly describes what she does online for money. See if you feel the same after that.
Holy shit!!! This was such an important interview and I can’t wait until the next one. As a neurodivergent exmo who has family on my mom’s side back to when mainstream Mormons were polygamous, I relate to a lot of this woman’s story. My mother is neurodivergent and was diagnosed a couple of years ago in her 60’s. I can’t get diagnosed for financial and insurance reasons but I’m pretty sure I have ADHD and I suspect ASD1 also. My dad has neurodivergent traits but is undiagnosed. My brother was diagnosed with ADHD as a minor. He died in his early 20’s as a direct result of addiction which stemmed from, I think, how clueless the mental health community was in the 90’s and early 2000’s. They still have a lot of work to do. I’m so glad I got to hear this story and I’ll be looking out for part 2. Thank you, Shalese for all of the work you do. I’ve gotten much insight and inspiration from the stories you platform. Love and hugs!
Thanks for sharing your story. ❤ people saying parts of her story aren’t true, it’s her experience. She’s brave for speaking out, everyone’s experience is different. She’s not saying everyone in the south is like that, it’s her experience. Heartbreaking story. 💔
I love her vibes. I can't imagine what her life was like because I haven't experienced even half of her hardships. But I would love to be her friend. Thank you for opening up and sharing.
I love this interview! Chaysa energy is contagious, the pure strength and resilience she spoke about shows through her mannerisms. Most of all to come out of this with compassion for humanity is truly inspiring. Thank you for sharing a brief part of your life. ❤
We need more than two episodes for this guest! I loved the interview, and the Linda Listen 👌 She’s so right, let’s not all suffer twice. Thank you for speaking out, and your strength is admirable 😊
Chasya, I too grew up Orthodox Jewish, and I'm about your age. Hearing your story is truly heartbreaking. Sometimes, people who are mentally unfit, use their "observance" to excuse their mental illness/ bad parenting. Your childhood, resonates with me. I am still Orthodox, and now have a large family of my own. I chose to separate the poor parenting I received, with my own relationship with Judaism and Gd. The orthodox life doesn't have to be traumatic or ugly. When practiced correctly, with love and happiness, it is truly a beautiful way of life, full of community and closeness to Gd. I will daven for you, that you can find that love in your life and have your own unique, loving relationship with Hashem. He always loves you, no matter what. Wishing you all the best.
I am Jewish living in Tel Aviv, not religious but lightly tradionational. I do understand that this is a personal story of someone living in the very extreme side of Judisiam. The story is NOT THE NORM of most Jews. The story is really very sad, and Im sorry for the pain that Chasya went through. BUT PLS NOTE: This is not the typical story of most Jewish people. There are good and bad people in every faith. Especially at the extreme end of each religion. Indeed a very abusive family and surroundings.
Her story sounds nothing like any of the Jewish traditions I have ever encountered. At a time when antisemitism is on the rise, I find it irresponsible to share stories like this one without making a concerted effort to distance these cults from other Jewish sects. Jews don’t need to face any more hatred than we already do.
Nobody thinks this is a normal Jewish experience. It was made pretty clear she grew up ultra orthodox. Antisemitism is on the rise because of Netanyahu and what Israel is doing, not because of this brave womans story 🤦♀️@@lyssasletters3232
@@lyssasletters3232I truly hope most people understand there are extremists in nearly all regions and cults. Not for a moment do, I as a humanist, believe that there are many people in the Jewish faith who would behave in those cruel and immoral ways. I think it's very important to know that this happens when religion or politics are corrupted by extremists who do not represent their faith. I don't believe in God but I do believe that the majority of people including religious people have good morals and want to help and protect others. If we know nothing about the abuse we cannot recognise and help those who might need to escape and find somewhere safe.
@@lyssasletters3232thank you for highlighting this. That is my feeling as well. The content creators will defend themselves by saying that they are critical of every other tradition but the thing is is these other Traditions are not constantly being harassed, persecuted and even killed for their faith.
Such an amazing show! Hassia you are a warrior, I can’t imagine the odds you overcame to be where you are. I cried with you and I feel your pain. I wish you only good things and happiness, you deserve the world. You are also an amazing speaker and storyteller, I can see that being your next career move. You’re just amazing.
What a beautiful soul she is. She is like a ray of sunshine. Thank you for giving her a platform to share her story. The way that her dog came to comfort her. Was so sweet and reminds me of my own dogs and their role in my life.
Thank you again for the amazing videos, thank you Chasya, thank you CtC Team. You guys are making a change, and this change will grow I can see that already.
Wow! What a story and what a wonderful and amazing woman,. I love her compassion, empathy and honesty. Listening to her made me cry. Cant wait for part two Shelise. ❤
I loved this interview thank you chasya. I can so relate to all of this. I grew up in the hassidic community in Brooklyn. The dr play is exactly what we all did on the sabbath. Many of my classmates, myself included had lesbian relationships without understanding what it was. Every single world so resonated with me. Can't wait for part 2.
This is really shocking! Many of the women who have left Haredi Judaism and publicized their stories have been lesbians. Based on your experience, is the Haredi world producing an extraordinary number of man-hating lesbians?
It’s not only Hasidic communities. I was raised in a Roman Catholic family and went to a parochial Catholic school. I endured similar abuse and humiliation and terror at home and at school. I was so scarred and traumatized, I never able to have a normal relationship with anyone through out my entire life.
A strong sense of justice is a beautiful trait of our neurodivergent community. My struggles growing up afab with AuDHD were always caused by misunderstandings. Girls didn't have these diagnoses. My brother had both and was treated accordingly. I was left to struggle. I understand now that I wasn't the problem.
While some Autistic people (particularly those of us who are highly empathetic) can feel a strong sense of justice, it’s a so-called positive stereotype that we all feel it. Just look at Elon Musk.
OK I'm 51 years old part Puerto Rican part Italian and German American born in Brooklyn New York and back when I was a little girl, I kinda went through the same only my family's catholic and unlike now anyone with autism was viewed as like a freaking abomination... I can't tell you how awful that was ... I have 3 children now and 2 that are on the spectrum... I bet back then there wasn't enough study on it so they basically got the raw end of the stick , I wanna hug you so much and encourage you to keep up the good work!!! You have my 100000 % support and hugs to your inner child ❤
As someone who grew up orthodox and surrounded by females in school and camp, I can attest that not everyone touched girls or examined girls bodies in childhood. I actually am shocked she thinks that was typical. I'm only at the pre interview clip so I can't respond to anything else yet...
I grew up on a somewhat similar community in another place. I did it with my sister, and I know in seminary girls slept with each other. It does happen. Please don't bellitle people experiences. She is here talking about her experience, I don't think she claims that her experience is how every Jewish community is or even other people in the same community
I'm not fully through the interview either, but I'm also noticing that some of her experiences are not universal experiences in the Orthodox community. I feel so much for her. She has clearly been hurt and traumatized. You can see it as she speaks and in her perception and understanding of the community and her experiences (I'd imagine the neurodivergence plays a role too). I'm in no way judging her, though I can see how much her trauma is very much alive within her. The community does fail people and it needs to do better. That being said, as she clarified in the comment section, her experience is not everyone's experiences. It sounds like her parents had a lot to do with this as well as they seemed ill equipped and in need of help. I hear where she's coming from bec I also grew up in the Orthodox community and I work with clients experiencing religious trauma now in my profession as a licensed therapist. I hope she can find healing and that she is living the life she wants for herself.
OMG. This is exactly what my mother did to my hair. The physical punishment was the same. It's beyond horrifying to know others had the same experience.😢
Thank you for having this guest on. I’m so glad she’s sharing the real deal of her experience…and that of so many others. Well not disclosing everything isn’t lying or deceitful UNLESS it is deceptive. Full, 100% honesty does not mean full disclosure. It’s case by case of where the deception line is.
I’m so sorry that Chasya had such a horrible and traumatic childhood. She is very brave to share her story. Her parting words to you, Shelise, were spot on and well deserved.
YES!! I have ADD and am autistic, and you know how sometimes you hear someone say a thing that you can feel, changing your brain, as you take it in?? I felt ripples in all directions of time and space, when Chasya said: “Masking is Death” WOW 💜⚡️ I feel so similar in many ways, in my thinking and values. I love nothing more than standing up for an underdog…even when it’s me, although that’s always harder than when it’s someone else - Chasya, I am 100% rooting for you- I am in school online to become a certified interpreter for the Deaf, bc there’s only 1 interpreter for every 50 Deaf people in the US, and also bc a huge majority of Deaf kids who are born to hearing adults suffer from neglect and rejection by their family not choosing to learn sign. Partly due to bad advice but hugely influenced by society seeing Deaf people as being Less Than. Now that I’m learning ASL (American Sign Language) I have fallen in love w/ the language bc it’s 100% visual and every single thing has to be communicated so that both communicators can picture or visualize each component of what’s being communicated. It’s a language that makes SO much sense to my neurodivergent brain, which is an excellent example of Universal Design (when you gear the levels of accommodation to support the greatest level of needs/support, many others will always also benefit. Another example is that wheelchair ramps also benefit parents/grownups pushing strollers, and people who have a prosthetic limb) Anyway, I just feel like I can relate to SO much of what you’re sharing, Chasya!! I wish we could hang out - you seem like you’d be a really good friend 💜⚡️
She is a beautiful compassionate woman and I greatly appreciate her sharing her painful story. Thank you Chasia for speaking to help others!!! God bless you!! I’m sure you are a wonderful mother!!!
I am sorry you had this experience My experience with kapparos is putting the chickens on baskets, not held by wings and then they went straight back into crates. Nobody killed any chickens in front of us.
I’ve never been so moved by a video as I have this one. Not that I am Jewish but everything else. I believe I am all these symptoms that Chasya talks about and in a very strange coincidence of finding this video has helped me so much ❤
Having visited Lakewood NJ... she isn't lying about the way locals hate the takeover or the segration from everyone else or the part about seeing anyone who looks like me as childcare or help... it's interesting.
It’s not just Lakewood. It pretty much happens wherever they form their communities. They become so insulated and distinctive that you pretty much know where not to go. It’s not only with Jewish communities, they’re the most prominent cause they’re worldwide but I saw it with Mormon communities in Mexico.
@@astridburke3616 As first generation immigrant everyone gets accused of this around the world, I do however believe anti-semitism is a special type of hate like its very specific.
@@OneidaGCantisemitism is propagated because of the diaspora but following migration patterns it is logical that we would form communities with people that are culturally similar to us. They just get the most hate because of antisemitism but that’s why every city has a china town or a Hispanic neighborhood we like what’s familiar. So I totally understand wanting to stick with your own.
I’ll start by saying that I’m very sorry for the abuse that chasya went through and that is extremely traumatizing. BUT I’m a religious Jew that lives in LAKEWOOD where she grew up and the things that we do as a community like kapparos with the chicken is completely exaggerated! I’ve never seen chickens dead and bloody in front of my face. They don’t wave it over your head violently. The schools don’t scare you and tell you that u need to die for your religion! They actually teach us to choose LIFE so we can be able to accomplish all the mitzvos/ commandments god has given us with love. And it could be back in the 80s they didn’t have awareness abt neurodivergent disorders. As the years go on there is so much awareness, my own son who is on the spectrum went to a school that directly helps kids like this! There is so so many therapist and social workers and institutions for kids and adults like this! She can’t say she doesn’t remember details and then go on to say things that are complete lies. I feel bad for her. I feel her pain. She clearly still has things that are not worked through. But to exaggerate and to make a whole community look bad bc of a horrific personal experience you went through is not right.
The woman being interviewed has acknowledged that she can only speak for her own experience. And it is the same for you, whether you acknowledge it or not. Maybe you expected to recognize your own experience in hers- but the people you grew up with are not even the same people. And you are not her. For myself, the community I grew up in has changed a lot over the years. It is a different place in many ways. And they'd probably feel embarrassed and indignant to hear from me how it used to be, what used to happen, what things were taught and how they were taught, what was acceptable, and what was not. Many of us grew up in awful situations and then made things better for those who were younger than us. A good community does not just happen and if you want to know how things got to be so nice for you, so you can truly appreciate what you have, all you have to do is listen to those who went before you and be open to what they have to say.
@@kirsten1339 that is why I didn’t comment on anything she said on a personal one on one level. But the things she’s bringing up as a community I can talk abt as well bc I’m not that much younger then her and we lived in same community so I’m also aware of what goes on. I would never talk abt her own singular personal things she went through bc I can never imagine going through that and have no right to comment on that but on a community level there’s shared experiences and on that I can comment on.
Let the people decide !! - Rather have these things in the open - like in the Manny Waks and Malka Leifer cases - otherwise the chances of justice are very small.
28:13 My daughter has special needs, and I always think of what a blessing it is that she was born to me, because it only makes me love her more. It makes me empathize in a different way, and I see all the things she can do rather than those that she can't (yet). Think how fortunate your siblings are for having you as a sister to protect them when your only job was to survive the torment yourself. ❤
“Special needs” is a slur. It’s unfortunate those are the words both the guest and host chose to use (as well as yourself). Disabled needs are human needs, and someone’s identity does not boil down to the specific accommodations or supports they need. “Disabled” is not a dirty word nor is it a synonym for “unable.”
Hey! I went to all girls high school. It is not true that you end up falling in love with girls because you have no choice. I’m still friends with many of these “girls”, now happily married women. Lesbianism has never even crossed my mind. What nonsense is this?
I loved this Linda Listen moment....xxxxx also from a member of the neurospicy club I love the info and the raising awareness regarding ADHD and ASD, as a vegan the chicken and cow story was difficult to hear...x amazing lady...im off to watch part 2....x
Chasya, you are an amazing and beautiful woman! I am so sorry for what you have endured! I am thankful that you are able to share your story in hopes that it will help others. You speak eloquently with love, passion, and concern. Thank you for sharing your story! I wish you all the best as you continue your healing. I am sending you positive vibes! ❤
She's very courageous in telling us her story. Though I’m sure there are some cultish behaviors in Lakewood, having spent lots of time, there, paints a very different picture from what she’s saying. I wouldn’t put a whole town under the same umbrella. I recommend you spend a day there walking into the shops, talking to the people, and you’ll get a very different picture. Every community has its bad apples and they should be called out. Making a whole community out to be a bunch of bad apples seems unfair. Furthermore, comparing the different developments to the Warsaw ghetto is a real slap in the face to the kids who starved to dieth on the streets of Warsaw.
I’m a lifelong NJ resident…. I live in Atlantic County and my in-laws are from Monmouth County. I work in Lakehurst, which isn’t far from Lakewood. Coincidentally, I was recently diagnosed with ADHD and am awaiting an autism diagnosis. Wow. Such an intense story… I can’t wait for part 2.
Hasidics have done the same in area in Montreal, Canada called Outremont . The entire neighbourhood, the schools, shops, services are Hasidic and they are not neighborly, don’t interact with non sect members AT ALL.
Orthodox communities are very insular, largely due to the fact that one needs to live within a mile of the synagogue, so they can walk there on shabbat. There are only so many houses within that 1 mile radius, so they tend to get filled by religious families and then shops and restaurants, fairly quickly. Once you get to know them, they are very nice. They just tend to be very guarded (even more so now), because they know people can see that they are Jewish and therefore often a target. Again, now even more so....
Chasya I'm so sorry that you had this horrible experience. BTW ultra orthodox go to the same doctors as non jews and non religous, so yes, we are aware of all physical and mental health possible diagnoses. I dont' think any school decades ago was looking to help neurodivergent kids, mine included. Now, all the religious schools are happy to help, they push parents to get kids evaluated and to have whichever kinds of therapy necessary.
I was thinking that. I wonder if the chassidish schools are changing. I work in a Chabad school we push for our students to get services when they need and teach the kids everyone has different strengths and weaknesses and we learn at our own pace. I wonder if non Chabad chassidish schools are following this path now too
I was just disappointed that i got here so early and the second interview was not already out xD. This womans story is so important to share and im just so thankful you are sharing it. ❤
"if you feel restricted, you're not going to feel love for anything" absolutely!! and if you are restricted from an early age, your brain doesn't make the necessary connections to start forming a self and you just kind of float through life, confused and disconnected about eveyrthing. this is my achilles heel. i coped with restriction by dissociating and numbing out from my internal and external world - no likes, no interests, no skills, no goals, no needs, no wants, no preferences, no dislikes, no strengths, no future, no passion, no reflection, no connection. empty. one of my favorite songs is pink floyds "wish you were here", and i never knew who i was yearning for until recently it dawned on me that i'm yearning for true myself/authenticity.
This was a tough listen but well worth it. Thank you so much for sharing your story, Chasya. Also, I wanted to comment specifically about a topic that came up in regards to CSA and perpetrators. There may be more proper treatments available to perpetrators (and those who have the compulsion to perpetrate) in the future by way of drugs meant to lower and inhibit testosterone. There is some interesting research/data out there already showing this to be one of the only medically effective interventions available. I hope to see more research in this area so we as a society can eliminate this mental perversion that so many in society have.
I raise chickens and they are such misunderstood and mistreated animals. They deserve every kindness. Each one of my girls has a unique personality. One enjoys hugs and stroking her neck. I am so sorry you had to witness this. I would be scarred for life.
28:28 Your daughter's tears don't control you; you care about them. I know it might feel like you're being controlled because your parents never paid attention to your tears or your emotions. But we have children and then it's our job to model proper handling of the emotions we all experience our whole lives. Even without that proper modeling during your own childhood, in taking this dog in for your daughter, you showed that you value her opinions and feelings and prioritize them, not that you simply capitulate to "unreasonable" emotions. She will go on to know that her mother believes in her and has her back. She will realize she has a voice and she'll use it. She will grow up without the inherent and unavoidable issues that young girls like us will face as part of our "normal" lives. You are AMAZING. Your strength is admirable and your neurodivergence is beautiful. ❤
Chasya is a CAMPION. I was raised in a conservative (moderately religious) Jewish home but I have experienced many of the same abuses as Chasya. It's time to speak truth about all of this.
Chasya, I'm so sorry for your trauma. You are a beautiful person. I defended those who had mental disabilities too at school. It enraged me when they were picked on. I pray you keep healing and thriving. Your Sister in Christ, Bernie
As someone who lives in Lakewood, this is nauseating. I’m only 10 minutes in, and I can’t believe how this woman speaks. If you’ve been through something, feel free to speak your mind. But the spread lies about an entire community, especially at this time that we live in is irresponsible at the least. Lakewood is a bustling town with thousands of orthodox Jewish families, there is charity given, unbelievable organizations, and help for all those that need. There are also beautiful homes, high-end shopping and some of the largest healthcare companies are based out of here, giving thousands of woman high paying jobs. To compare this to the ghettos in Warsaw, you should be ashamed.
There were parts of the interview that made me scratch my head. I converted to Judaism, and I KNOW how many men it takes to make a minyan. I also know that Yom Kippur doesn’t lead into Rosh Hashanah. I just get this weird feeling of things not adding up.
The NDA confession triggers me. I have a good friend, who was married to an Orthodox man, who insisted that she sign an NDA before their marriage. They are no longer married. He was a narcissistic man who was a Rabbi of a congregation. And yes. He turned out to be very abusive. So sad that Chasya also went through that. 😢
I love cults to consciousness, and i think i found your podcast because of the other two ex orthodox women you interviewed. But something is very strange with this lady's story. I'm still at the very beginning of the interview, but her memory of things or things she cannot recall waves a red flag around the things she does recall. Neourodivergent can be many things, but i wonder if experiencing life through her lens might have given her an altered understanding of the world around her?
So, you’re basically suggesting that the guest is incompetent and can’t accurately remember her own childhood and the abuse she went through? Neurodivergent and incompetent are not synonyms. Do better than that. Be better than that.
I was diagnosed around that age too. The best advice a therapist gave me was stop fighting it, it went a long way in learning to accept myself. I hope you’re able to work through that hate no matter how your relationship to your ADHD changes over time.
I’m really sorry you’re hurting. I have ADD and autism and I wouldn’t trade my brain for a million dollars, no matter how frustrated I sometimes get. The very best suggestion I can offer is to focus hard, on your strengths! If you only focus on your challenge areas, you’re going to be miserable for sure- but neurotypical people never do that! In this one instance, maybe borrow a page from their playbook and focus on what you’re good at- eventually, you can use those strengths to help you through the challenge areas, or find environments where your skills are so appreciated and respected that your challenge areas will not hold you back; they’ll be accepted and accommodated. I mean it! These things are 100% possible- I’m still building the life I want, but I’ve come a really long way, and the best, the very best moments have been when I have used my strengths to help others in ways I wish that I had had help - those are moments when you can heal deep wounds in yourself - I am rooting for you!! 💜⚡️
@ahoranui You are not “low-functioning,” because your traits and support needs don’t make you less than those with different traits or support needs or less than non-disabled people. I’m very sorry the guest in this video reinforced the use of that slur, along with “special needs,” as they’re both hateful terms that don’t even have an official medical or educational meaning.
@sarahissersohn5495 Out of curiosity, is your use of the “ADD” label a choice that you made based on the label you were originally given? I only ask because the label was officially replaced by “ADHD” in 1987.
Hello everyone! “EMPATHY IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF INTELLIGENCE.” I want to make a disclaimer that my story is not the story of others. I do NOT speak for anyone else but me. Secondly thank you Shelise & Jonathon for giving me such an important opportunity to raise awareness about extreme religious coercion & the effects of it. Most of all thank you for the kind words of encouragement & giving me the benefit of the doubt instead of trying to discredit and devalue me. Thank you again for the people who took the time to make me feel like I matter. Thank you!!!!!!!! #daughterchasya
It took a lot of courage to do this!! BTW while I think a lot of people do it for absolutely no reason, you definitely DO have a valid reason for not attending family events. BTW, when was this, in Memphis?
Chasya, your soul shined throughout this interview.
I'm thankful for you sharing your story and helping us to understand your experiences.
Your dog, Oh I love her!!! My dog follows me around when I have bad days.. and he loves me regardless.
You are worthy of respect and finding happiness in life. Nothing was your fault and no child is responsible for the actions of adults.
Adults failed you and in turn, you are breaking the cycle. ❤ You are such a beacon of light.
@ AAAAH! I forgot to mention the dog! The dog is amazing and I’m not even a dog person!
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I love your name and I love hearing it being said. I’m a mother of 2 neurodivergent sons and I’m so sorry you went through all that you did. Every child deserves to grow up in a loving safe home with parents who accept them for who they are. I’m so glad that you’re away from it now and doing amazingly telling your story and letting people know exactly what is going on in that cult. You’re a strong and extremely intelligent woman. Thank you. ❤🦘🐋🇦🇺
As a neurodivergent woman who grew up modern orthodox this was a fascinating and powerful interview. While a lot of my upbringing was quite different, there definitely are some shared experiences. Some of the things Chasya says here weren't fully translated so I thought I would do a little glossary for those who are curious:
-Yeshiva: a seminary. For boys this means grade school, often focused on intensive study of rabbinic texts. For men this means the study of rabbinic texts. Some men do it in their spare time, some are full time scholars, and some go to yeshiva specifically to get rabbinic ordination.
-Rashi: Rabbi Shlomo Yitzchaki, French Jewish scholar from the 11th and 12th centuries. Wrote a very straightforward commentary on the bible that is often the first commentary taught to Jewish children.
-Upsherin-a celebration after cutting a boy's hair for the first time at the age of 3.
-Tosfos Yuntif/Tosfot Yomtov: Rabbi Gershon Shaul Yomtov Lipmann Heller, lived in Bohemia in the 16th and 17th centuries. Highly regarded rabbi who wrote a famous commentary on rabbinic texts.
-Kapparot-the practice of waving a chicken around your head and then slaughtering it before the day of atonement. Many communities now just use money to wave around your head and then donate it to charity. Some communities never practiced it to begin with.
Thank you for taking the time to explain. ❤
Gracias - from Spain.
I had thought animal sacrifices stopped after the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem. Did the practice only continue (or restart) in certain communities?
This is not considered a sacrifice. Until the temple is rebuilt, sacrifices will not be practiced.@nerysghemor5781
@@nerysghemor5781 You're right, but Kapparos are different from the Temple sacrifices. Official sacrifices that were carried out in the Temple, ceased with the destruction of the Temple.
Kapparos is a personal , symbolic (and gross!) gesture asking God to accept the chicken instead of the person. The waving around and what is said are the symbolic part. They're then slaughtered to be eaten, but it's not a sacrifice.
It is profoundly sad that as women, no matter what religion or culture, we are blamed for the sins of men! When does it stop?? When will it be enough??
I agree with you, Tamie. It’s sad. I don’t think it will stop, until the afterlife, though I hope I am wrong about that. In the meantime, all of us aware of this injustice, have to try to fight against it, and make people aware, that men and women are equal. By the way, I am a man.
This woman has such a good soul. She gives me chills down my spine because she talks from her heart and she was so terrified. I am at minute 22 and I am already about to cry.
No, she doesn't. She could air out her dirty laundry with a Jewish organization, not spread loshon hora on a public world-wide platform.
Omg I came to say this. The way she recalled the slaughter is chilling
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@florentinaluca777 watch her on whisky no chaser ep 66 when she talks about who she really is. You might get a different set of chills.
Find more at Whisky no chaser ep 66.
Thank you so so much for this conversation, both of you..I cried through a bunch of it. Man, Chasya, I see you. The fact that you are reclaiming your voice, owning your story, and loving yourself into a place of fierce sovereignty like this, despite ALL of the horror you have experienced, is just unbelievable. Your light is so bright and no 👏 thing 👏 will ever take that away. I deeply admire your strength, heart and transformative power. Bless you.And thank you for breathing life into me and my trauma healing too - it's super hard and not everyone understands.. I cannot wait for part two. 🖤🩶🤍
My mom is retired from CPS, I pray Chasya achieves her goals. I believe she is and will make a difference. I also have ADHD (identified by my mother when I was a toddler) and OCD, anxiety, and depression. The way Chasya puts perfectionism could not be more fitting.
Chasya, your story is both heartbreaking and beautiful the way you have come out of all of this. I can't wait for part 2!!!!
I grew up undiagnosed ADHD and autistic and while not in any cult her discussion of how neurodivergent people are treated are so true! Especially the masking leading to blowup and burnout! While it’s far kinder in comparison in the secular world it’s not by much in many places still! I hope she achieves her goal of social work in these homes and kids who need the intervention of someone who knows what it’s like!
I was fortunate enough to be diagnosed early (around 4-5), especially as a female, but I didn't get any treatment until adulthood. The attitude around me was largely, "You've got X problem. Sure. But I can't see why you can't act normal." It didn't help that I was twice exceptional. "You're smart, so you don't really need these accommodations."
Wow!! This woman is a true definition of bravery, courage and hope. I am also from Brooklyn and familiar with Flatbush Avenue… it’s still not the safest place. I’m so sorry you had to go through all of that trauma. 😢 I believe your story will bring so much hope and healing for others. Can’t wait to see part 2. 🙏🏽🫶🏽. Thank you sharing shalese ❤
Chasya, I could listen to you talk all day! I cant wait for episode two and hopefully more. Thank you so much for sharing your story and being vulnerable and authentic!!
So weird cuz I was thinking that too, she's very enchanting.
@marip0sa3833 You can see her speak more on whisky no chaser ep 66 where she explicitly describes what she does online for money. See if you feel the same after that.
Holy shit!!! This was such an important interview and I can’t wait until the next one. As a neurodivergent exmo who has family on my mom’s side back to when mainstream Mormons were polygamous, I relate to a lot of this woman’s story. My mother is neurodivergent and was diagnosed a couple of years ago in her 60’s. I can’t get diagnosed for financial and insurance reasons but I’m pretty sure I have ADHD and I suspect ASD1 also. My dad has neurodivergent traits but is undiagnosed. My brother was diagnosed with ADHD as a minor. He died in his early 20’s as a direct result of addiction which stemmed from, I think, how clueless the mental health community was in the 90’s and early 2000’s. They still have a lot of work to do.
I’m so glad I got to hear this story and I’ll be looking out for part 2. Thank you, Shalese for all of the work you do. I’ve gotten much insight and inspiration from the stories you platform.
Love and hugs!
Thanks for sharing your story. ❤ people saying parts of her story aren’t true, it’s her experience. She’s brave for speaking out, everyone’s experience is different. She’s not saying everyone in the south is like that, it’s her experience. Heartbreaking story. 💔
What a courageous lady, you are so strong and i look forward to the second part.
I love her vibes. I can't imagine what her life was like because I haven't experienced even half of her hardships. But I would love to be her friend. Thank you for opening up and sharing.
I love this interview! Chaysa energy is contagious, the pure strength and resilience she spoke about shows through her mannerisms. Most of all to come out of this with compassion for humanity is truly inspiring. Thank you for sharing a brief part of your life. ❤
She’s clearly on drugs. It’s insane that you people can’t see that.
Thank you for sharing your story you are one of many in the ultra orthodox who have been abused in this way unfortunately
We need more than two episodes for this guest! I loved the interview, and the Linda Listen 👌 She’s so right, let’s not all suffer twice. Thank you for speaking out, and your strength is admirable 😊
Chasya, I too grew up Orthodox Jewish, and I'm about your age. Hearing your story is truly heartbreaking. Sometimes, people who are mentally unfit, use their "observance" to excuse their mental illness/ bad parenting. Your childhood, resonates with me.
I am still Orthodox, and now have a large family of my own. I chose to separate the poor parenting I received, with my own relationship with Judaism and Gd. The orthodox life doesn't have to be traumatic or ugly. When practiced correctly, with love and happiness, it is truly a beautiful way of life, full of community and closeness to Gd. I will daven for you, that you can find that love in your life and have your own unique, loving relationship with Hashem. He always loves you, no matter what. Wishing you all the best.
Thank you! ❤
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Sending love to Chasya for what she has been through. Thank you for sharing your story, Chasya. I am better for having listened to it.
I am Jewish living in Tel Aviv, not religious but lightly tradionational. I do understand that this is a personal story of someone living in the very extreme side of Judisiam. The story is NOT THE NORM of most Jews. The story is really very sad, and Im sorry for the pain that Chasya went through. BUT PLS NOTE: This is not the typical story of most Jewish people. There are good and bad people in every faith. Especially at the extreme end of each religion. Indeed a very abusive family and surroundings.
Her story sounds nothing like any of the Jewish traditions I have ever encountered. At a time when antisemitism is on the rise, I find it irresponsible to share stories like this one without making a concerted effort to distance these cults from other Jewish sects. Jews don’t need to face any more hatred than we already do.
Nobody thinks this is a normal Jewish experience. It was made pretty clear she grew up ultra orthodox. Antisemitism is on the rise because of Netanyahu and what Israel is doing, not because of this brave womans story 🤦♀️@@lyssasletters3232
Notice the channel is CULTS to Conciseness.
@@lyssasletters3232I truly hope most people understand there are extremists in nearly all regions and cults. Not for a moment do, I as a humanist, believe that there are many people in the Jewish faith who would behave in those cruel and immoral ways.
I think it's very important to know that this happens when religion or politics are corrupted by extremists who do not represent their faith. I don't believe in God but I do believe that the majority of people including religious people have good morals and want to help and protect others. If we know nothing about the abuse we cannot recognise and help those who might need to escape and find somewhere safe.
@@lyssasletters3232thank you for highlighting this. That is my feeling as well. The content creators will defend themselves by saying that they are critical of every other tradition but the thing is is these other Traditions are not constantly being harassed, persecuted and even killed for their faith.
This woman has such a beautiful soul, through all her trauma and pain. She radiates kindness and sincerity. God bless her.
Such an amazing show! Hassia you are a warrior, I can’t imagine the odds you overcame to be where you are. I cried with you and I feel your pain. I wish you only good things and happiness, you deserve the world. You are also an amazing speaker and storyteller, I can see that being your next career move. You’re just amazing.
Thank you so much for sharing your story 🤍
Thank you so much for being brave and sharing your story! I'm looking forward to part 2
What a beautiful soul she is. She is like a ray of sunshine. Thank you for giving her a platform to share her story. The way that her dog came to comfort her. Was so sweet and reminds me of my own dogs and their role in my life.
Thank you again for the amazing videos, thank you Chasya, thank you CtC Team. You guys are making a change, and this change will grow I can see that already.
Wow! What a story and what a wonderful and amazing woman,. I love her compassion, empathy and honesty. Listening to her made me cry. Cant wait for part two Shelise. ❤
I loved this interview thank you chasya. I can so relate to all of this. I grew up in the hassidic community in Brooklyn. The dr play is exactly what we all did on the sabbath. Many of my classmates, myself included had lesbian relationships without understanding what it was. Every single world so resonated with me. Can't wait for part 2.
lol same 😂i was raised religious in flatbush
This is really shocking!
Many of the women who have left Haredi Judaism and publicized their stories have been lesbians.
Based on your experience, is the Haredi world producing an extraordinary number of man-hating lesbians?
Chasya! Thank you! I can't wait for part 2! 🎉
שיעור מרגש ועוצמתי. כל פעם מחדש אני מתפעל מהיכולת שלך לשלב חכמה, אמונה, ותובנות לחיים בצורה כל כך ברורה ומרשימה. תודה שאתה נותן לנו כל כך הרבה.
What a great episode! Thank you so much for sharing.
It’s not only Hasidic communities. I was raised in a Roman Catholic family and went to a parochial Catholic school. I endured similar abuse and humiliation and terror at home and at school. I was so scarred and traumatized, I never able to have a normal relationship with anyone through out my entire life.
A strong sense of justice is a beautiful trait of our neurodivergent community. My struggles growing up afab with AuDHD were always caused by misunderstandings. Girls didn't have these diagnoses. My brother had both and was treated accordingly. I was left to struggle. I understand now that I wasn't the problem.
While some Autistic people (particularly those of us who are highly empathetic) can feel a strong sense of justice, it’s a so-called positive stereotype that we all feel it. Just look at Elon Musk.
Same. Same.
Thank you for this interview, ladies! Super job! Can't wait for part 2!
Honestly, the work that you are doing is phenomenal. Can't wait for part 2.
OK I'm 51 years old part Puerto Rican part Italian and German American born in Brooklyn New York and back when I was a little girl, I kinda went through the same only my family's catholic and unlike now anyone with autism was viewed as like a freaking abomination... I can't tell you how awful that was ... I have 3 children now and 2 that are on the spectrum... I bet back then there wasn't enough study on it so they basically got the raw end of the stick , I wanna hug you so much and encourage you to keep up the good work!!! You have my 100000 % support and hugs to your inner child ❤
Chasya is so eloquent and a great advocate 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 she is a blessing
Eloquent?
As someone who grew up orthodox and surrounded by females in school and camp, I can attest that not everyone touched girls or examined girls bodies in childhood. I actually am shocked she thinks that was typical. I'm only at the pre interview clip so I can't respond to anything else yet...
I know. It's sad that she thinks this was normal. I never experienced this and don't know anyone who experienced this.
Same
I grew up on a somewhat similar community in another place. I did it with my sister, and I know in seminary girls slept with each other. It does happen. Please don't bellitle people experiences. She is here talking about her experience, I don't think she claims that her experience is how every Jewish community is or even other people in the same community
Maybe the lack of boundaries was a response to shame, neglect, fear and isolation? I m curious as well ....
I'm not fully through the interview either, but I'm also noticing that some of her experiences are not universal experiences in the Orthodox community. I feel so much for her. She has clearly been hurt and traumatized. You can see it as she speaks and in her perception and understanding of the community and her experiences (I'd imagine the neurodivergence plays a role too). I'm in no way judging her, though I can see how much her trauma is very much alive within her. The community does fail people and it needs to do better. That being said, as she clarified in the comment section, her experience is not everyone's experiences. It sounds like her parents had a lot to do with this as well as they seemed ill equipped and in need of help. I hear where she's coming from bec I also grew up in the Orthodox community and I work with clients experiencing religious trauma now in my profession as a licensed therapist. I hope she can find healing and that she is living the life she wants for herself.
Love this episode. And cliffhanger is juicy, can't wait for next part ❤
Wow what bravery to be so candid about the truth of the cult experience you went through, may your mind and heart be healed with time beautiful woman.
OMG. This is exactly what my mother did to my hair. The physical punishment was the same. It's beyond horrifying to know others had the same experience.😢
Thank you for having this guest on. I’m so glad she’s sharing the real deal of her experience…and that of so many others. Well not disclosing everything isn’t lying or deceitful UNLESS it is deceptive. Full, 100% honesty does not mean full disclosure. It’s case by case of where the deception line is.
I’m so sorry that Chasya had such a horrible and traumatic childhood. She is very brave to share her story. Her parting words to you, Shelise, were spot on and well deserved.
I could listen to you all day long..mind-blowing and spoken so profoundly. Nothing but the best for you❤
Abuse is not because of the religion, it's because of the person. Sadly abuse happens in all faiths and socio-economic backgrounds.
Ye, but the religious environment usually fosters it. It's not because of the religion, but there's a connection that should not be dismissed
@@allia94hachifunny argument. I don't recommend you sign up for a debate team.
It doesn't happen in every religious group it happens in religious groups who take everything to the absolute extreme
YES!! I have ADD and am autistic, and you know how sometimes you hear someone say a thing that you can feel, changing your brain, as you take it in??
I felt ripples in all directions of time and space, when Chasya said:
“Masking is Death”
WOW 💜⚡️
I feel so similar in many ways, in my thinking and values. I love nothing more than standing up for an underdog…even when it’s me, although that’s always harder than when it’s someone else
- Chasya, I am 100% rooting for you-
I am in school online to become a certified interpreter for the Deaf, bc there’s only 1 interpreter for every 50 Deaf people in the US, and also bc a huge majority of Deaf kids who are born to hearing adults suffer from neglect and rejection by their family not choosing to learn sign. Partly due to bad advice but hugely influenced by society seeing Deaf people as being Less Than.
Now that I’m learning ASL (American Sign Language)
I have fallen in love w/ the language bc it’s 100% visual and every single thing has to be communicated so that both communicators can picture or visualize each component of what’s being communicated. It’s a language that makes SO much sense to my neurodivergent brain, which is an excellent example of Universal Design (when you gear the levels of accommodation to support the greatest level of needs/support, many others will always also benefit. Another example is that wheelchair ramps also benefit parents/grownups pushing strollers, and people who have a prosthetic limb)
Anyway, I just feel like I can relate to SO much of what you’re sharing, Chasya!! I wish we could hang out - you seem like you’d be a really good friend
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She is so strong to share her story so publicly ❤✌️
Thank you so much for sharing your story. I hope you have an amazing life. ❤🎉
awww. the way the dog came to you and gave you a beautiful support.
She is a beautiful compassionate woman and I greatly appreciate her sharing her painful story. Thank you Chasia for speaking to help others!!! God bless you!! I’m sure you are a wonderful mother!!!
I am sorry you had this experience
My experience with kapparos is putting the chickens on baskets, not held by wings and then they went straight back into crates. Nobody killed any chickens in front of us.
I’ve never been so moved by a video as I have this one. Not that I am Jewish but everything else. I believe I am all these symptoms that Chasya talks about and in a very strange coincidence of finding this video has helped me so much ❤
I am so distraught listening to this. I wish this young brave lady every happiness and health.
This is a wow episode! Keep them coming👏
Having visited Lakewood NJ... she isn't lying about the way locals hate the takeover or the segration from everyone else or the part about seeing anyone who looks like me as childcare or help... it's interesting.
It’s not just Lakewood. It pretty much happens wherever they form their communities. They become so insulated and distinctive that you pretty much know where not to go. It’s not only with Jewish communities, they’re the most prominent cause they’re worldwide but I saw it with Mormon communities in Mexico.
@@astridburke3616 As first generation immigrant everyone gets accused of this around the world, I do however believe anti-semitism is a special type of hate like its very specific.
@@OneidaGCantisemitism is propagated because of the diaspora but following migration patterns it is logical that we would form communities with people that are culturally similar to us. They just get the most hate because of antisemitism but that’s why every city has a china town or a Hispanic neighborhood we like what’s familiar. So I totally understand wanting to stick with your own.
I never considered how an extreme religious culture impacted gentrification, it’s an intersection to explore for sure
I live 30 minutes from Lakewood. She is correct.
I’ll start by saying that I’m very sorry for the abuse that chasya went through and that is extremely traumatizing. BUT I’m a religious Jew that lives in LAKEWOOD where she grew up and the things that we do as a community like kapparos with the chicken is completely exaggerated! I’ve never seen chickens dead and bloody in front of my face. They don’t wave it over your head violently.
The schools don’t scare you and tell you that u need to die for your religion! They actually teach us to choose LIFE so we can be able to accomplish all the mitzvos/ commandments god has given us with love. And it could be back in the 80s they didn’t have awareness abt neurodivergent disorders. As the years go on there is so much awareness, my own son who is on the spectrum went to a school that directly helps kids like this! There is so so many therapist and social workers and institutions for kids and adults like this!
She can’t say she doesn’t remember details and then go on to say things that are complete lies.
I feel bad for her. I feel her pain. She clearly still has things that are not worked through. But to exaggerate and to make a whole community look bad bc of a horrific personal experience you went through is not right.
The woman being interviewed has acknowledged that she can only speak for her own experience. And it is the same for you, whether you acknowledge it or not. Maybe you expected to recognize your own experience in hers- but the people you grew up with are not even the same people. And you are not her. For myself, the community I grew up in has changed a lot over the years. It is a different place in many ways. And they'd probably feel embarrassed and indignant to hear from me how it used to be, what used to happen, what things were taught and how they were taught, what was acceptable, and what was not. Many of us grew up in awful situations and then made things better for those who were younger than us. A good community does not just happen and if you want to know how things got to be so nice for you, so you can truly appreciate what you have, all you have to do is listen to those who went before you and be open to what they have to say.
@@kirsten1339 that is why I didn’t comment on anything she said on a personal one on one level. But the things she’s bringing up as a community I can talk abt as well bc I’m not that much younger then her and we lived in same community so I’m also aware of what goes on. I would never talk abt her own singular personal things she went through bc I can never imagine going through that and have no right to comment on that but on a community level there’s shared experiences and on that I can comment on.
Let the people decide !! - Rather have these things in the open - like in the Manny Waks and Malka Leifer cases - otherwise the chances of justice are very small.
@@kirsten1339don’t waste your time, some of these people are as cultish to their own beliefs as they claim to be against. It’s all for money.
@@Mmshroomshame on you
What a lovely and powerful woman! I grew up undiagnosed in a fundamental household, it's so incredibly tough. Thank you for sharing your story.
28:13 My daughter has special needs, and I always think of what a blessing it is that she was born to me, because it only makes me love her more. It makes me empathize in a different way, and I see all the things she can do rather than those that she can't (yet). Think how fortunate your siblings are for having you as a sister to protect them when your only job was to survive the torment yourself. ❤
“Special needs” is a slur. It’s unfortunate those are the words both the guest and host chose to use (as well as yourself). Disabled needs are human needs, and someone’s identity does not boil down to the specific accommodations or supports they need. “Disabled” is not a dirty word nor is it a synonym for “unable.”
I love how free she is. This interview showed me a lot about myself. Awesome
Love the honesty and willingness to inform us, brilliant woman!
I love the REALNESS of this interview
Thank you Beautiful Brave Women!! ..... I'm invested Now, & canNOT wait till the next episode.....
Much Love, & Many Blessings to you, & Yours 💕
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Hey! I went to all girls high school. It is not true that you end up falling in love with girls because you have no choice. I’m still friends with many of these “girls”, now happily married women. Lesbianism has never even crossed my mind. What nonsense is this?
I loved this Linda Listen moment....xxxxx also from a member of the neurospicy club I love the info and the raising awareness regarding ADHD and ASD, as a vegan the chicken and cow story was difficult to hear...x amazing lady...im off to watch part 2....x
Chasya, you are an amazing and beautiful woman! I am so sorry for what you have endured! I am thankful that you are able to share your story in hopes that it will help others. You speak eloquently with love, passion, and concern. Thank you for sharing your story! I wish you all the best as you continue your healing. I am sending you positive vibes! ❤
Thank you. Your courage is inspiring.
Love Chasya! Her story is one of terror and hurt. I am happy that she has been able to get out and talk about her past. Bless you ❤️🩹🙏
She's very courageous in telling us her story. Though I’m sure there are some cultish behaviors in Lakewood, having spent lots of time, there, paints a very different picture from what she’s saying. I wouldn’t put a whole town under the same umbrella. I recommend you spend a day there walking into the shops, talking to the people, and you’ll get a very different picture. Every community has its bad apples and they should be called out. Making a whole community out to be a bunch of bad apples seems unfair. Furthermore, comparing the different developments to the Warsaw ghetto is a real slap in the face to the kids who starved to dieth on the streets of Warsaw.
Thank you so much for this interview. You are helping so many escape from this incedious religion that is damaging so many. It is very scary.
I’m a lifelong NJ resident…. I live in Atlantic County and my in-laws are from Monmouth County. I work in Lakehurst, which isn’t far from Lakewood. Coincidentally, I was recently diagnosed with ADHD and am awaiting an autism diagnosis.
Wow. Such an intense story… I can’t wait for part 2.
That was very enlightening. Thank you both,
As an audhd person the discussion of neurodivergence is music to my ears
Chasya your life and parallels to mine. Wow. So literally validating
Hasidics have done the same in area in Montreal, Canada called Outremont . The entire neighbourhood, the schools, shops, services are Hasidic and they are not neighborly, don’t interact with non sect members AT ALL.
Orthodox communities are very insular, largely due to the fact that one needs to live within a mile of the synagogue, so they can walk there on shabbat. There are only so many houses within that 1 mile radius, so they tend to get filled by religious families and then shops and restaurants, fairly quickly. Once you get to know them, they are very nice. They just tend to be very guarded (even more so now), because they know people can see that they are Jewish and therefore often a target. Again, now even more so....
They are just trying to protect what they have. If they mingle, they will assimilate and the goal is to preserve the heritage and religion
Chasya I'm so sorry that you had this horrible experience. BTW ultra orthodox go to the same doctors as non jews and non religous, so yes, we are aware of all physical and mental health possible diagnoses. I dont' think any school decades ago was looking to help neurodivergent kids, mine included. Now, all the religious schools are happy to help, they push parents to get kids evaluated and to have whichever kinds of therapy necessary.
I was thinking that. I wonder if the chassidish schools are changing. I work in a Chabad school we push for our students to get services when they need and teach the kids everyone has different strengths and weaknesses and we learn at our own pace. I wonder if non Chabad chassidish schools are following this path now too
@@trexusification yes, the chasidish and litvish schools are definitely changing in this
I was just disappointed that i got here so early and the second interview was not already out xD. This womans story is so important to share and im just so thankful you are sharing it. ❤
😮oh wow 😳 lots of Bells and whistles going off... Thank you Ma'am for sharing your story
Love from Texas Milady ❤
"if you feel restricted, you're not going to feel love for anything" absolutely!! and if you are restricted from an early age, your brain doesn't make the necessary connections to start forming a self and you just kind of float through life, confused and disconnected about eveyrthing. this is my achilles heel. i coped with restriction by dissociating and numbing out from my internal and external world - no likes, no interests, no skills, no goals, no needs, no wants, no preferences, no dislikes, no strengths, no future, no passion, no reflection, no connection. empty. one of my favorite songs is pink floyds "wish you were here", and i never knew who i was yearning for until recently it dawned on me that i'm yearning for true myself/authenticity.
I really appreciate this comment.
This was a tough listen but well worth it. Thank you so much for sharing your story, Chasya. Also, I wanted to comment specifically about a topic that came up in regards to CSA and perpetrators. There may be more proper treatments available to perpetrators (and those who have the compulsion to perpetrate) in the future by way of drugs meant to lower and inhibit testosterone. There is some interesting research/data out there already showing this to be one of the only medically effective interventions available. I hope to see more research in this area so we as a society can eliminate this mental perversion that so many in society have.
She seems to have such a sweet and loving soul. I'm so sorry she had to go through all of that ❤❤❤
Would love to see a roundtable discussion with those former believers and current adherents.
I raise chickens and they are such misunderstood and mistreated animals. They deserve every kindness. Each one of my girls has a unique personality. One enjoys hugs and stroking her neck. I am so sorry you had to witness this. I would be scarred for life.
Beat my notifications to the video! Sounds like it'll be another interesting one from the title.
28:28 Your daughter's tears don't control you; you care about them. I know it might feel like you're being controlled because your parents never paid attention to your tears or your emotions. But we have children and then it's our job to model proper handling of the emotions we all experience our whole lives. Even without that proper modeling during your own childhood, in taking this dog in for your daughter, you showed that you value her opinions and feelings and prioritize them, not that you simply capitulate to "unreasonable" emotions. She will go on to know that her mother believes in her and has her back. She will realize she has a voice and she'll use it. She will grow up without the inherent and unavoidable issues that young girls like us will face as part of our "normal" lives.
You are AMAZING. Your strength is admirable and your neurodivergence is beautiful. ❤
Has Chasya written a book about her experience?? If not, she should. Her story is incredible, I'll be here for part 2!!
Chasya is a CAMPION. I was raised in a conservative (moderately religious) Jewish home but I have experienced many of the same abuses as Chasya. It's time to speak truth about all of this.
The similarities sparked so many things for me even though we didn’t have the same religious background it was so much similar and awakening for me.
She is so authentic and kind.
Thanks so much for sharing your story🙏🏼
Chasya, I'm so sorry for your trauma. You are a beautiful person. I defended those who had mental disabilities too at school. It enraged me when they were picked on. I pray you keep healing and thriving.
Your Sister in Christ,
Bernie
As someone who lives in Lakewood, this is nauseating. I’m only 10 minutes in, and I can’t believe how this woman speaks. If you’ve been through something, feel free to speak your mind. But the spread lies about an entire community, especially at this time that we live in is irresponsible at the least. Lakewood is a bustling town with thousands of orthodox Jewish families, there is charity given, unbelievable organizations, and help for all those that need. There are also beautiful homes, high-end shopping and some of the largest healthcare companies are based out of here, giving thousands of woman high paying jobs. To compare this to the ghettos in Warsaw, you should be ashamed.
Most people that live in Lakewood cannot stand this community. I live in Lakewood and was waiting for someone to write a comment like yours.
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Why?
Please explain.
Totally agree! The antisemites and otds are eating this up like its fresh outa the oven. Shameful!
33:03 this is such bs. There is soooo much therapy to get in the community
You are entitled to your opinion but can't you express it in better English and without vulgarity?
There were parts of the interview that made me
scratch my head. I converted to Judaism, and I KNOW how many men it takes to make a minyan. I also know that Yom Kippur doesn’t lead into Rosh Hashanah. I just get this weird feeling of things not adding up.
Another brainwashed person. ABUSED IS ABUSED NO MATTER WHAT!
That was moving and powerful I'm glad you are doing well I will wait for the second episode ❤️❤️❤️
The NDA confession triggers me. I have a good friend, who was married to an Orthodox man, who insisted that she sign an NDA before their marriage. They are no longer married. He was a narcissistic man who was a Rabbi of a congregation. And yes. He turned out to be very abusive. So sad that Chasya also went through that. 😢
Why do you write that your friend married an Orthodox Rabbi?
It only makes sense if she, too, was Orthodox.
NDAs aren't supposed to cover criminal behaviour, but are often used as a way to intimidate and silence victims nonetheless.
What an amazing woman ...I can't wait for part 2 !!!!! She is fantastic
I can't wait for the second part!
What a beautiful lady and a beautiful soul. This interview touched me. ❤️
I love cults to consciousness, and i think i found your podcast because of the other two ex orthodox women you interviewed.
But something is very strange with this lady's story. I'm still at the very beginning of the interview, but her memory of things or things she cannot recall waves a red flag around the things she does recall.
Neourodivergent can be many things, but i wonder if experiencing life through her lens might have given her an altered understanding of the world around her?
So, you’re basically suggesting that the guest is incompetent and can’t accurately remember her own childhood and the abuse she went through? Neurodivergent and incompetent are not synonyms. Do better than that. Be better than that.
Am a very low functioning adhd diagnosed at 40 years old. I hate it.
I was diagnosed around that age too. The best advice a therapist gave me was stop fighting it, it went a long way in learning to accept myself. I hope you’re able to work through that hate no matter how your relationship to your ADHD changes over time.
I’m really sorry you’re hurting. I have ADD and autism and I wouldn’t trade my brain for a million dollars, no matter how frustrated I sometimes get.
The very best suggestion I can offer is to focus hard, on your strengths! If you only focus on your challenge areas, you’re going to be miserable for sure- but neurotypical people never do that! In this one instance, maybe borrow a page from their playbook and focus on what you’re good at- eventually, you can use those strengths to help you through the challenge areas, or find environments where your skills are so appreciated and respected that your challenge areas will not hold you back; they’ll be accepted and accommodated.
I mean it! These things are 100% possible- I’m still building the life I want, but I’ve come a really long way, and the best, the very best moments have been when I have used my strengths to help others in ways I wish that I had had help - those are moments when you can heal deep wounds in yourself -
I am rooting for you!!
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OCD disorder ADHD 32 I understand the world is not built for us it makes it difficult
@ahoranui You are not “low-functioning,” because your traits and support needs don’t make you less than those with different traits or support needs or less than non-disabled people. I’m very sorry the guest in this video reinforced the use of that slur, along with “special needs,” as they’re both hateful terms that don’t even have an official medical or educational meaning.
@sarahissersohn5495 Out of curiosity, is your use of the “ADD” label a choice that you made based on the label you were originally given? I only ask because the label was officially replaced by “ADHD” in 1987.
What a beautiful soul. And the dog was cherry on top. ❤❤❤