my favorite thing about Josh in this game, is that his scheme is never to kill his friends. Just to scare them, and sort of attempting to get chris and ashley together through the trauma of his little game.
I mean... still insanely fucked up though. Making your friends choose who gets to live amongst them, watching them get shawed in half, making them genuinely believe a serial killer (who they suspect already killed their friends a year ago) is after them? I see way too many people downplaying what Josh did and it's just plain weird.
Idk anything about this game, but seeing Josh invite his friends back to the place where his sisters vanished just a year ago is super sus. If I were in their situation, I would NOT accept the invite. It just seems so shitty and tactless to do that to the memory of his sisters.
@@Marianiki2002 i aint gonna say it aint wrong. But he was still genuinely shocked to hear that jess had "died" Its why i like him as a character, despite his rotten sense of a revenge joke, and his delutions, he didn't actually want to hurt any of them.
@@raymondclifford6742 are you asking the person that wrote it or the people that liked it? I personally liked it because it reminded me of when I was younger and thought Lindsay Lohan was actually two different people in The Parent Trap which I now find hilarious because it was the same person and 7 year old me was like “oh I can tell the difference” 😂
Until Dawn truly is one of those horror games that definitely deserves to be looked back on. Glad to see Jack giving in a replay so he could find more secrets that he can catch up on. There is just something very amazing seeing someone replaying something from the past that feels very nostalgic.
It's so weird how I saw Rami in this game and thought "Oh, it's that cool pharoh from 'The Night of The Museum' that's pretty neat." And now years later, I come back to this playthrough and think "Man, Josh from 'Until Dawn' is Freddie fucking Mercury in the Bohemian Rhapsody movie." It's so crazy and bizarre how things change so much within the years going by
Fun Fact: If you said you were afraid of zombies, then eventually, Dr. Hill will get a huge wound on his head and start deteriorating like an actual zombie in all of his appearances. It's one of those small details in this game that I love.
@@goingeast budget cuts, CEO wants more money, publisher being impatient and “just release it already”. Either one or any combination of those will do that to a game.
Sean: “I don’t think I knew the last time that josh was the bad guy, I’m pretty sure I was shocked” also Sean the first time playing every time josh spoke: “josh is WEIRD I don’t like him I think he’s suspicious”
@@jacksepticeye also thankyou for replying :) I really enjoy your videos and it’s something me and my brother bond over. I hope you’re doing good, mentally and physically !!
Late to this, but people think that Hannah did recognize some of them and that’s why some of the deaths (determinant) are particularly gruesome, she’s angry and wants revenge. But characters she liked more, seem to get quicker painless deaths - such as Emily’s eyes being gouged, Jess’s jaw being ripped off - versus Sam just getting stabbed once - I’m not sure if this is actually part of the game or if it’s just fan theories
One thing I noticed that this game does completely different from its following games is that each game has that character that basically walks you through the “decision making” process but Dr. Hill ends up being a part of the story which I find very interesting. Also a much better twist than the identity of of the psychopath.
Yeee. I know I’m replying to an old comment, but there was a reason for us to talk to Dr. Hill. In Man of Medan and The Quarry it felt like “okay? Who are we, why are they talking to us like we can do anything? Is this a fourth wall break?” Like there’s zero reason for them to “guide” us. It felt more like it subtracted from the story. Here, it felt like it added because it made some sense.
i love the role of the psychiatrist. he's simultaneously talking to the player about the game, while talking to josh abt his "game" hes playing with his friends with all the "pranks" hes pulling.
Did anyone else notice how Josh’s smile vanished so fast when Sam turned way from him? It’s amazing how something barely noticeable was a huge hint that Josh had Ulterior motives inviting everyone back.
@@adailydrawingmustache4604 he was about to say “are we f**king p*??” Also when he described the part when someone said “burr” and when he went like “ahhhh” towards the beginning of the game
I would LOVE to see Sean revisit Detroit Become Human after all these years. His playthrough is still one of my favorites and I find myself rewatching it every year. A resurgence of looking back at these old, well-loved games is exciting!
I liked the basement chase scene. It's a great character moment for Josh that people tend to forget about. Josh doesn't know the "intruder" here is Chris. Despite being upset with his friends for what they did to his sisters, Josh is still a good person inside. He purposely places himself between Sam and the "intruder" as Sam is trying to get the door open. He didn't have to do that. He could've still tried to break down the door or even put Sam in the middle to save himself, but he didn't. Whether this was the direction of the dev or something the actors did on their own, it's a nice insight into Josh. He wants his friends to pay for what they did but he still cares about them or at least a few of them.
I think that is partly true. I don't know if it's cannon or where I heard it, but I think Josh has a crush/is very emotionally close to Sam so he cares very deeply for her. I think the fact that he physically punches Ashley in the face shows he doesn't think that way for all of them. But other than that I agree! I love that character moment for Josh.
and remember sam tried to “stop” the prank. i still don’t understand why he tormented chris though because he was passed out drunk with josh when the prank went down so he really had absolutely nothing to do with it
@@saramcdougald2022 Well Josh does say that Chris and Ashley need a little trauma to push themselves closer to each other, so there you go he's trying to be a wingman for his buddy. Just the way he goes about it is really messed up.
I mean uh... he DOES try his hardest to get one of them cut in half so idk if I'd say he's still a good person inside 😅😅 If he was truly a good person deep down, he would've made sure only he got "hurt" and no one died. Yknow, like "just a prank!"
The amount of similarities in the last play through 7 years ago proves that Sean is the same person (though of course matured and experienced, but still the same person). He noticed the funny faces the therapist character model makes, he noticed the voice actors saying, “brr”, he’s still afraid of heights, he loved the banana slice pillow…moments like that are fun, because it’s like the video game…some moments are destined to happen no matter what. He’s still Sean.
Fun Facts From Forensic Psychology: While statistically speaking it is true that rates of psychopathy are higher in men than in women, there are several studies that suggest this is due to classification issues. Women are more likely to be diagnosed with histrionic or borderline personality disorders, even when the same symptoms resulted in a psychopathy diagnosis in male subjects. Sexism is alive and well in the psychiatric field, even with your psychopaths. Fun things you learn when writing research papers on female serial killers.
@@gh0st_xr i mean probably, if you didn't grow up with an abusive mother or an abusive female partner most people won't think that a woman is dangerous. Cops who have dealt with female abusers often talk about how female abusers are far more open about their abusive tendencies and even seem proud of them. The was also a case a while back about a female teacher who was abusing a thirteen-year-old boy (intimately I might add) who got only six months in jail. Humanity has a duality when it comes to women, we can do no wrong because we are women, or because we are women they must go easy on us.
@@maryorosco1027 You're not wrong, tbh. I have lost count of the number of times people have given women extra sympathy and leeway for committing crimes because they pumped out a few tears and gave a sob-story. Just about any video you watch on female predators, for instance (especially if their victims are boys), will have a big ol' chunk of people in the comment section making the wildest apologetics for them, in a way they would never do if the genders were reversed.
I wonder if it has something to do with the strength difference between men and women. As most know, men are stronger on average than women, so it could lead to the assumption that women cause less damage. But really, a bat full of nails is just as dangerous in a woman's hands as a man's hands.
@@jwalster9412 yeah snakes usually only bite if they feel threatened. Whilst rats don’t need to be threatened to give you dangerous diseases and to steal all your food
"I wouldn't want this place to burn down on my watch" "Watch out for that Josh, he's a schemer." "They just need some traumatic event to push them into eachother's arms" the foreshadowing in this game is literally next level
I was watching a play through with a friend who had already seen it and when he said that stuff I IMMEDIATELY was like “he’s the bad guy he wants to kill them all look at all those double meanings!” But she told me it’s not like that? So now I’m watching to see what she could mean 🤷🏻♀️
At least for Chris, Josh wasn't targeting him for his sick revenge so much as trying to get him to finally make a move on Ashley by putting them in a harrowing situation together so that the "near death" experience would bring them closer together. As for Sam, he may be targeting her because she didn't try "hard enough" to stop Hannah and/or Beth. Or maybe because he was passed out drunk, he didn't realize that Sam didn't actually take part in the prank. Or Hell, maybe Josh had a crush on Sam, and he planned on having a "maniac" find and tie her up and then "save" her later as Josh, and she'd be so grateful to him that she'd fall for him.
"It was just a prank, Han!" No, it was her entire group of friends and the guy she has a crush on humiliating her and invading her privacy. Yikes. I hated that.
@@Yeehaw6424 doesn't negate what they did though. mike and emily both consented to it, and mike was the one to initiate it with a girl he KNOWS likes him. obvious power imbalance, esp considering he's popular too.
@@Yeehaw6424 just because she was going to do something wrong doesn’t mean everyone else didn’t do something wrong too. Yes, she was gonna sleep with her friend’s bf but that doesn’t justify what they put her through. Everyone that was in that room was in the wrong. The only difference is that she was alone in her wrong doing while everyone else teamed up against her in their wrong doing.
I loved when I had the realization that everything Josh did to Chris was him trying to be his wingman. It always confused me why he was putting him through so much when he wasn't part of the prank, but then it hit me.
I can't help but feel like in Until Dawn the characters feel way more real than in the other games, like expressions and such are so much more smooth and detailed
For me it's the writing. Who they become by the end of the night makes so much more sense to me. Like Dylan was the only one who had the same kind of progression in the Quarry
As someone whose primary response is flight I definitely get why Hannah's instinct was to go outside. Sometimes that's the only place where there's no one around and you just need to breathe some outside air, even if later you regret it, like Hannah probably did when she realized she'd left without a coat. You don't always think straight in stressful situations.
In Hannah's room you can find a personality quiz that ends up saying the only way for her crush to notice her is by doing something crazy spontaneous, like getting a tattoo or running away. I think she did it assuming Mike would follow her instead of Beth.
To be fair, everyone thought he was a creep. That's why it's such a great twist, everyone thinks he the killer, to then see Josh get killed, and then have our minds blown because the whole thing was "just a prank" which ties back to the beginning of the game quite well.
The sad thing is that, iirc, Josh has undiagnosed and thus unmedicated schizophrenia (or something similar). He's not a bad person per se, just in a very unlucky situation that caused his mental health to decline to this extent.
@@charlesgonzalez1406 yeah, he got like, antidepressants, right? Which have something to do with serotonin instead of dopamine, which is one of the bigger factors in schizophrenia…
No one ever mentions that Sam was actually one of the only ones that wasn't in the room during the prank, and actually advised against it, like Sam didn't play a part in it, one of many reasons why she is the best characters in the game.
Just for the record, I'd be VERY excited for a new Detroit: Become Human series. I absolutely love that game. There are technically 85 different endings to Detroit, depending on the interactions between the mental/physical states of the 3 main characters. So many choices.
Watching Jack play this again really makes me wish that the developers would have made the choice on the cliff a little more important. Even if it was just a tone change to the notes/journal you find close to the end I feel like it would have been the icing on the cake if there was just the slightest storytelling difference between Hannah and Beth falling together or Beth dropping Hannah. Because I am willing to bet Hannah would not have felt so bad about cannibalizing Beth if she was dropped.
Well, Hannah could have taken Beth apologizing as being unable to hold onto her anymore. The average person isn't going to be able to hold onto something with one hand while carrying the full weight of another person for very long. Considering the trauma immediately after being dropped, plus waking up to find Beth dead next to her, I feel like she'd assume the best of her sister.
Honestly I would have just been happy to see one note where maybe there was just one day where Hannah saw Beth dropping her as a betrayal like the others pranking her. Even if it was a stray page to the journal in the lair I think it would have been a little more realistic. I feel like anyone in a similar position would swing back and forth between understanding the decision and loathing Beth for doing it.
There is a tone change in the journal. If Beth let’s go of the branch, Hannah apologies in her diary, if Beth drops Hannah, then Hannah doesn’t feel regret eating her
Until Dawn really is a masterpiece. The plot and the pacing were nigh on perfect, which is luckily a part of a game that will always hold up against time. I’d comment on sound but I don’t have my headset atm. The graphics will get a little old over time (ex. the type of mocap animation), but as with all of our favorite decade or more old games, it becomes their quirk that we’ve come to love about them.
Indeed. I watched _SO_ many people play this game because the story was so excellent and misleading and surprising with great scares and plenty of panic.
@@ItsLadyJadey Yeah, up until the 2010's I was still going back to play games like the original Final Fantasy VII & VIII, GTA III, etc. The graphics are obviously outdated, but I still find them really fun to play.
i had to rewatch after watching playthroughs of the quarry and still feel like none of the developers games have come close to topping it yet (they’re all cool in their own regard tho)
Looking back at this knowing everything about Josh I can’t help but really feel for him. While his gross comments about partying and Chris and Ashley could be legit, looking back they really do feel like a mask. There is a chance that he did say these kind of things before his sisters passing, but it almost seems that these comments really are just a way to distract everybody and not what he actually feels. Even if I’m wrong I can’t deny that Rami Malek is an amazing actor, and really played Josh well.
I felt awful for him when I played because it seemed to me like a trauma mask as well. I think Josh was probably always a little awkward but his sisters' disappearance and the reason he was no help that night really shattered his psyche I feel.
god Sam continues to be the best character in this game- she doesn’t pick pointless fights with anyone, she’s levelheaded, she’s a fucking badass, her first instinct upon getting up to this cold ass mountain is to take a bath, and she doesn’t have a forced romance with one of the male characters like every other girl in the game. Sam FTW.
Mike has always been my favorite because of the turnaround. At first no one likes him and he seems like a tryhard but goes full Die Hard and becomes the brave hero. Sam was always second for me just because she's consistently likeable whereas I really expected to not like Mike
@@inventsable i do also like Mike, they kinda set him up like hes gonna cheat on Jess with Emily, but that never actually happens, and he ends up being a cool (if a little stupid) guy
Can we take a moment to appreciate the editor who pulled off overlaying in-game text over Sean's camera with animations? That was a thoughtful touch for us viewers. Thank you editor.
I like how complex Josh’s character is, dealing with mental health issues before his sisters’ disappearance and adding trauma on to that with their disappearance, just puts the “prank” he did in a whole new light for me. Plus adding on the fact that he was probably really close to his sister and they were probably there for him the most when he struggled with his mental health, makes it all so much sadder. Doesn't excuse what he did but I still really feel bad for him.
Rami Malek has officially won my heart as one of the best actors, ever. Whatever role he’s put into, he really goes all out. After seeing Bohemian Rhapsody, I gained such a new level of respect for him. He portrayed Freddie Mercury so damn well. Absolutely phenomenal.
One little character thing I love in this game is at the beginning Jess is clearly close with Emily and is in on the prank because she’s “looking out for my girl Em” and then ends up with Mike a year later 💀
Rami Malek is an incredible actor. Seeing him play the crazy guy in The Pacific and this game, compared to the lovable characters in Night at the Museum and Bohemian Rhapsody is fascinating
He’s one of those actors that is given a role and he becomes one with that role. When you see him acting, he’s not Rami in that moment, he is whatever character he’s portraying. The more an actor believes that they are/can be that character, the better the outcome and Rami is absolutely phenomenal in all accords.
he was in the little things w jared leto and he was absolutely fantastic. he's been one of my favorite actors since night at the museum (😂) and it's been awesome to see him become so successful!
Oh funny how I didn't realize how American some of these references are until I watched Sean playing this. Cochise was an Apache chief during the Apache Wars, and has a very heroic and mythologized death. He's depicted quite a bit in movies, very famously in "Broken Arrow". Rami's "see for yourself, pilgrim" is meant to be a John Wayne impression. Given Josh is a cinephile, and the game uses a lot of Native American lore, Josh making references to classic Westerns is underscoring all that world building by the game.
I was JUST thinking about how I miss these kind of playthroughs, not just from this channel but overall. There's just a lack of games that are enjoyable to watch being made when back in the let's play peak games were being made with stories and styles to accommodate the trend. Naturally let's players had to change their range of content. Then everyone started getting striked and well, all things end.
I am really hoping he will do Detroit Become Human again. Watching him play that and Spider-Man helped me get into those games. I love those games and replay them a lot
Rami did such a good job portraying the Unsettling Nice Guy act. We've all seen this kind of guy in real life and thats the most scary thing about this 😭
@@mattwood1562 you got that from two words? 😂 wanna tell me my future now? Or maybe just maybe.. consider the fact we don’t all live the same lives with the same people 😱
If you ever play hide and seek with Jack all you have to do is shout, "WHAT DOESNT KILL YOU WILL MAKE YOU STRONGER!" And he will shout back, "BUT WHAT IF THEY CUT OFF
on his tangent about snakes i laughed, im from the south so theres a lot of snakes, but i moved to NY for college and i scream every time i see a rat. i am the people jack is worried about
I actually used this game as the basis of a project for my Native American Studies class, specifically about pop culture appropriation of Native American cultural elements for horror tropes. While the game still uses Native American belief systems as the background for the horror, the details of how things are used and, I think most interestingly, the depiction of the Wendigo line up pretty well with the actual folklore as opposed to the more familiar depiction of a Wendigo as a monstrous bipedal deer.
The monstrous bipedal deer may have something to do with another Native belief of skin walkers. Essentially pop culture grouping things with the same origin to create a popular/culturally appropriated monster. Just a thought though 😅😁
@@isabellmarie8381 Some tribes/cultures have different versions of the Wendigo. I remember growing up with the lumberjack stories of it. Our Wendigos were monsters that could shapeshift. The lumberjacks would say that they were caused by lumberjacks before them who had been stuck before in the woods during severe Winters and had gone through famine so severe some had eaten each other. There's legends of entire camps of lumberjacks getting decimated by Wendigos. They are only legends, but still.
@@AnonningAnon That's the legends I've heard. Once you defile the law of nature by consuming human flesh, it twists your body into something unnatural.
is it offensive to use the concept of the "pop culture wendigo (monstrous deer)" just as a monster, not a wendigo. I've always loved the monster design but i didnt realize it was incorrect. sorry for the late comment as well lol
@@prcat2003 to be honest it's a problem when they claim it to be "authentic". Yeah I'm not a native American but I'm not an American either. But I see monsters etc. being used to inspire something that yeah is different etc. but still has soul in it as not really offensive. Because if it was well... It'd be really stupid to be offended by something that has happened all over human history, y'know, cultural exchange instead of going "You're evil because that's our practice and you're not allowed to do that!"
No other game by Supermassive Games has surpassed the quality and overall experience that Until Dawn provides the players. This series is truly amazing and seeing this played in 2022 gets me all nostalgic.
One thing I absolutely loved about this game is that based on your choices with Dr. Hill, the chapter titles change. During Jack’s first play through chapter 1, the title was Memento Mori and this play through, it’s Friendship. I like that
Jack in 2022: "In 2015, I don't think that I guessed Josh was a bad person, because I remember being surprised by it when it happened." Jack in 2015 after playing 5 minutes of the game: "Josh is definitely the killer, something about him is weird."
Tbf I think he meant after he "died", ik he didn't say that and before it he 100% did predict it, but I don't think anyone expected him to have a fake body to kill so most people moved on to different theories
Jack: "If you're afraid of rats more than snakes i don't trust you as a person" Also Jack last time: "rats definitely scare me more because I've never seen a snake in real life"
There's a VR game that is a prequel to Until Dawn called The Impatient and its interesting and I love it. It's basically about you being a patient in the sanatorium when the wendigos all break out. Would love to see Jack play it
Dr Hill is worked into the story so well. Actually having those segments act as Josh's therapy sessions makes him feel like part of the world, as opposed to the Curators obsession with acting as an uninvolved observer. It felt like they didn't know how to work him into the stories, so they just didn't.
32:40 Uh, actually Jack... Chris is like, the one guy who had nothing to do with the prank that killed Hannah and Beth. He was passed out along with Josh during the whole event. Which is ironic considering how later in the game, Josh messes with Chris the most.
I've always thought that might be due to the fact he blames Chris because he blames himself for not being there. If Chris or Josh decided to Abstain, his sisters might be alive. While that sounds like a crazy idea, reminder that Josh is physically incapable of thinking properly.
@@matthewsimon6170 yea, it's explained later on that Josh is basically unable to tell right from wrong To him, the "prank" he pulled on everyone was completely justified, he legitimately believed they would see it the same way he does because he can't understand that it's morally wrong to literally traumatize his friends To be honest, it's such a sad reality that I don't think many people really catch on to, people just assume he's just evil for evils sake.
@@matthewsimon6170yeah it also probably doesn't help that Chris is likely the closest one to Josh, they seem like best friends and have known each other since 3rd grade. So Josh probably feels the worst about this painful betrayal from him (as he would probably rationalize it)
to be fair, he does that because as he tells Sam, he believes that Chris and Ashley need a traumatic event to bring them together. Still a messed-up thing to do ofc but it explains why they're targeted the way they are
The don’t move mechanic was so cool, I literally stopped breathing whenever it popped up in my playthrough. Especially the very last part of the game, it was so intense
I read an interesting theory that was the Wendigo would've never run into the group if they had all stayed at the cabin, because it rarely ventured over to that part of the mountain. So the two going to the guest cabin basically triggered everything that went down that night. I do wonder, and I know it's typical horror trope of somebody not talking causing the story, why the guy didn't mention where Hannah and Beth fell off the cliff. Would've possibly saved the one twin!
I think it’s because the police were after him before that and if not they definitely thought he was a suspect, so to have him tell the police that he knew where they fell, I’m sure that wouldn’t look the best for him. Just my theory
It could be because they fell in the cave. We know the part of the cave with Hannah's journal had wendigos in it and he was probably worried that the part they fell into had wendigos as well. He wouldn't want to risk the lives of searchers
It always bothered me that they spent hours there without the Wendigo caring about them, but in the end it's like you can't even step out of the house without being attacked. So I really like your theory!
Honestly this is a good theory because the devs said Jacob is like the Jessica of the quarry. So like you said Jessica and Mike going to the guess cabin could’ve caused everything which is like how if Jacob didn’t mess with the car the counselors could’ve left
@@iangames5337 I *think* (might be wrong) that the stuff about the police being after him was fake. IIRC the posters, newspaper, even the message on the answering machine, were all Josh’s doing. To what end? Not sure.
Fun fact: the piece being played on the piano while you're having your first session with the psychologist is "Aria da capo" by Bach. That piece is considered to be the "theme song" of Hannibal Lecter, both in the movie adaptations of the book in the early 2000s and in the 2013 series with Mads Mikkelsen. Eary and elegant, just like Hannibal.
@@annabanana2665ummm no, no it isn’t. I love the game but y’all are glazing it to fuckin Hell. The dialogue has always been cringey, it’s no better than their new games.
@@barakaafrobama6519 Kind of late, but it’s supposed to be.. the game is a play on classic horror movies where the kids are dumb as hell, there’s going to be cringey dialogue
Jack plays Until Dawn: whatever doesnt kill you makes you stronger Jack plays Man of Medan: whatever doesnt kill you makes you stronger Jack plays Little Hope: whatever doesnt kill you makes you stronger Also Jack after each of the above statement: but what if
@@cookiedoughatkinson907 At 1:29:04 just after Mike picks up the totem, you can see a Wendigo skittering really fast on the wall behind him (that's what the suspense noise at that point is for), and at 1:34:02 when he's looking through the binoculars, the jumpscare that happens at that part is a Wendigo face :P *Edit:* JackSepticEye edited a Freddy Fazbear face into the binocular part where the Wendigo is supposed to pop up, but yeah, in the unedited footage, it's a Wendigo face that he sees for a brief moment
feels so weird to be watching this now at 16 when 6 years ago i was 10 hiding under the covers every night to watch jack play this game for the first time without my parents seeing so i wouldn’t get in trouble, all this time and he’s still my favourite youtuber, crazy :,)
exact same here i was 13 when jack played this game for the first time and now here i am at 19 still enjoying watching him like nothing has ever changed
Also, I notice that the room gets super messed up after Chris jumpscares Josh. It seems to throw his entire mindset off- he was probably hallucinating when Chris spooked them 🥺
I decided to look up the pewdiepie video where he's laughing at the overdramatic character intros in dramas from India because of how Sean was reacting to the character intros in the game and ended up watching another video where Felix says towards the end "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" and I found that coincidence pretty funny.
I LOVE when Sean replays games he already played. The thing is, JACK was great, but Sean is even better. His energy is now channeled, it's appropriate and not all over the place. The one thing I feel with old play throughs is that I LOVE HIS ENERGY but it was energy for the sake of it, and now it's put into good use with good jokes and meaningful commentary. Love you always, Sean
Whoever did the remix for the line "It's just a prank, Han" is a genius! I laughed so hard when I saw and heard that. Very glad to see a return to this series and curious to see how this play through differs to the last. Much love for ya, Sean!
I just got to the part where the therapist appears for the first time, and I can’t believe I forgot how much I loved this whole “therapy” bit. How him and the room itself becomes more dark and creepy as the game progresses, as Josh’s mind rapidly deteriorates. It added more to the game and felt more essential to the story. Thank you for replaying this.
I would absolutely LOVE if Jack replayed Detroit! it’s my favorite playthrough Jack has done. I’ve been going on a binge of Jack playing supermassive games so youtube is like “you wanna watch him play Detroit for the 4th time?” And I’m like “do not tempt me! Because I will.”.
When this series came out, I’d watch it every day on my way to track meets my junior year of high school, depressed, isolated and out of shape.. now I’m a college graduate, married to a fellow gamer, manage a gym, and still watch every one of Jack’s videos. Life is weird, funny, but can be good sometimes ❤️
@@kamrynbolan9525 appreciate that, if I’ve learned one thing it’s that it does get better if you’re not afraid to accept help if you’re fortunate enough to have even one supportive person in your life
Until Dawn really is one of the most immersive games and I'm not talking about the mechanics of the game controller's motion detection or touch pad; it's everything else. You get drawn in by the atmosphere and the realism of the graphics, you want to figure out the mystery and predict which way the story will go, and you quickly become invested in these characters. Even if they start as kind of stock, the actors playing them give them life through their performances and you find yourself relating to the kids and rooting for their survival.
Jack then: "Nice ass-angle there"
Jack now: "Great ass-shot"
Also Jack: "I've changed so much over the years"
@Kavetion Nobody cares silly 10 year old comparing yourself to a legend and an angel
You should respect technoblade and not compare yourself with him
@@yusufnegm6332 L
@@angy1717 no u + ratio
Yeah he's more impressed by the ass shot
@@04Bunger07 yeah
The "whatever doesnt kill you makes you stronger" will remain in jacks vocabulary for any game this company will ever make
But like what if you got your hand cut off
@@matthewlam7650 depends, are we in a resident evil game? Or any other game that is willing to bend the laws of science and medicine for the plot?
Whatever doesn't kill you . . .
Will just keep trying . . .
@@riverstyx7251 there’s also a real world
@Kavetion I mean he's dead and he's still has better content than you
my favorite thing about Josh in this game, is that his scheme is never to kill his friends. Just to scare them, and sort of attempting to get chris and ashley together through the trauma of his little game.
and then out comes the supernatural Wendigo’s and they mess everything up. So Josh really got the bad end of the stick.
I mean... still insanely fucked up though. Making your friends choose who gets to live amongst them, watching them get shawed in half, making them genuinely believe a serial killer (who they suspect already killed their friends a year ago) is after them? I see way too many people downplaying what Josh did and it's just plain weird.
Marianiki2002 Strong “it’s just a prank bro🤪🤪🤪”
Idk anything about this game, but seeing Josh invite his friends back to the place where his sisters vanished just a year ago is super sus. If I were in their situation, I would NOT accept the invite. It just seems so shitty and tactless to do that to the memory of his sisters.
@@Marianiki2002 i aint gonna say it aint wrong. But he was still genuinely shocked to hear that jess had "died"
Its why i like him as a character, despite his rotten sense of a revenge joke, and his delutions, he didn't actually want to hurt any of them.
Jack : I don't think Hannah and Beth look that much alike...
Ella Lentini, who played both Hannah and Beth : And I took that personally
And they’re identical twins
Don’t you mean Ella Lentini?
Why do you all think these comments are funny?
@@williamstevens5599 yesss!!! Ty
@@raymondclifford6742 are you asking the person that wrote it or the people that liked it? I personally liked it because it reminded me of when I was younger and thought Lindsay Lohan was actually two different people in The Parent Trap which I now find hilarious because it was the same person and 7 year old me was like “oh I can tell the difference” 😂
“Maybe Detroit is another game we could play again”
Me: aggressively slamming my fists on the table “yea I mean you could it’s whatever”
Doooont tease me Jack!! Man I would love if he’d replay it!
I'm absolutely screaming
*proceeds to knock his door down* yeah man, I really hope you do it, it'd be rad
PLEASE YES! I’m currently playing it now!!
Yes!
Jack: "that was 7 years ago"
Me, who watched the series as it came out: "it's been what now"
I think I aged fifty years with Jack mentioning how long it had been since the first playthrough.
I remember waiting for each episode...
right?? i was 11 and i still watch him. i feel old :(
We're closer to 2050 than 1990 if that helps.
@@friendlyreaper9012 it really doesn't 😭
Until Dawn truly is one of those horror games that definitely deserves to be looked back on. Glad to see Jack giving in a replay so he could find more secrets that he can catch up on. There is just something very amazing seeing someone replaying something from the past that feels very nostalgic.
@YeaMan cant spell page lol, thought robots were smarter
Until dawn is truly one of the games.
I suppose that's because without Sean you wouldn't be here? least not right now. (just a thought)
This feels like The nostalgia year
@@shreyaansdas7313 Haha
It's so weird how I saw Rami in this game and thought "Oh, it's that cool pharoh from 'The Night of The Museum' that's pretty neat." And now years later, I come back to this playthrough and think "Man, Josh from 'Until Dawn' is Freddie fucking Mercury in the Bohemian Rhapsody movie." It's so crazy and bizarre how things change so much within the years going by
And a fucking bond villain 😂😂😂
And he is also in the Oppenheimer movie
and a side character in twilight
And from Mr. Robot
he’s in so much stuff
@@syra1541WHAT
Fun Fact: If you said you were afraid of zombies, then eventually, Dr. Hill will get a huge wound on his head and start deteriorating like an actual zombie in all of his appearances. It's one of those small details in this game that I love.
im pretty sure that actually occurs if u tell Dr Hill that u dont think hes real, but i could be wrong
Oh that's cool, I thought that just decided what mask a jump scare later on would be wearing, with a dummy popping up in your path
Honestly, I probably wouldn't notice that until the end when I put two and two together.
damn it i chose that option without knowing this is a zombie game 😭😭 im TERRIFIED of zombie apocalypses but i love this game and the last of us 😟
i did not understand what Ryan mean by "the most dangerous things to do in here is scaring off the squirrel" in The Quarry but now i know why
For being a 7 year old game, the graphics and character models hold up really well, and could probably compete with some 2022 releases too
It's got better graphics than Cyberfuck
@Kavetion technoblade better then you’ll ever be. So stop spamming
looking back on this and how the characters of the quarry was flesh out makes me question what happened
@@goingeast budget cuts, CEO wants more money, publisher being impatient and “just release it already”.
Either one or any combination of those will do that to a game.
@@imateakettle Don’t reply to bots. Just ignore or report.
Sean: “I don’t think I knew the last time that josh was the bad guy, I’m pretty sure I was shocked”
also Sean the first time playing every time josh spoke: “josh is WEIRD I don’t like him I think he’s suspicious”
My memory is flawless!
@@jacksepticeyevery flawless jack
@@jacksepticeye it’s okay we’ll be pointing it out along the way !!🤣
@@jacksepticeye well you were shocked at tye regal still for a different story reaosn
@@jacksepticeye also thankyou for replying :) I really enjoy your videos and it’s something me and my brother bond over. I hope you’re doing good, mentally and physically !!
Wendigo Hannah kills them all: "It was just a prank guys."
It's just a prank,Em
😂😂😂😂 god damn it I wish she could have talked in Wendigo form
Late to this, but people think that Hannah did recognize some of them and that’s why some of the deaths (determinant) are particularly gruesome, she’s angry and wants revenge. But characters she liked more, seem to get quicker painless deaths - such as Emily’s eyes being gouged, Jess’s jaw being ripped off - versus Sam just getting stabbed once - I’m not sure if this is actually part of the game or if it’s just fan theories
@@Pretty.Biology.Princess It’s very possible
One thing I noticed that this game does completely different from its following games is that each game has that character that basically walks you through the “decision making” process but Dr. Hill ends up being a part of the story which I find very interesting. Also a much better twist than the identity of of the psychopath.
Yeee. I know I’m replying to an old comment, but there was a reason for us to talk to Dr. Hill. In Man of Medan and The Quarry it felt like “okay? Who are we, why are they talking to us like we can do anything? Is this a fourth wall break?” Like there’s zero reason for them to “guide” us. It felt more like it subtracted from the story. Here, it felt like it added because it made some sense.
i love the role of the psychiatrist. he's simultaneously talking to the player about the game, while talking to josh abt his "game" hes playing with his friends with all the "pranks" hes pulling.
It's just a prank Josh!
so it the dr talking to josh
Technically what didn’t kill Hannah did make her a lot stronger
😂 this is sending me 😂
this needs more likes
so true
Glad I looked through the comments cause I was just about to say this😂
Bruh
Dear editor: putting the intro character text over Sean’s face cam was VERY very impressive and a wonderful touch thank you
Sean's editors are next-level ngl
also ik this was a year ago but the piss breaks in the spiderman 2 series were so funny 😭
Hear that Robin? You're getting praise for your work! 🥰
@@crystalsilence2559 Robin doesn't edit for Jack anymore.
@@goldwasp7222 really? I didn't know that. 😢
Did anyone else notice how Josh’s smile vanished so fast when Sam turned way from him? It’s amazing how something barely noticeable was a huge hint that Josh had Ulterior motives inviting everyone back.
What time?
1:48:29
it’s super interesting to rewatch and catch the bitterness in Josh’s tone. Rami did an amazing job
Was it her turning away or the sound in the background that made him stop smiling though
Yeah I would also not be too happy about them if my baby sisters were dead/missing because of prank they did. 😂
Jack: “it’ll be cool to see how things change”
Chris: “I found something amazing”
Jack now: “weed”
Old Jack: “weed”
Also the banana pillow
@@adailydrawingmustache4604 he was about to say “are we f**king p*??” Also when he described the part when someone said “burr” and when he went like “ahhhh” towards the beginning of the game
@@adailydrawingmustache4604 and a lot more lol
friday the 13th remake joke
@@Hellwaterva well that was a dictionary remake no one asked
Jack: "Is that a slice of banana pillow?"
Also Jack 7 years ago: "is that a slice of banana pillow?"
@AlSus Media Center مرکز ألسس go look for yourself instead of relying on others
@@someguy7448 you have anger issues bud
@@someguy7448 no need to be rude 🙄
@@someguy7448 seek help
@@someguy7448 calm down..
I love how Jack is STILL going on about the "whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger" saying
was a confusing saying during the quarry but eventually made out to be true lol
but what if they cut off my toes???
I would LOVE to see Sean revisit Detroit Become Human after all these years. His playthrough is still one of my favorites and I find myself rewatching it every year. A resurgence of looking back at these old, well-loved games is exciting!
agreed :)) he loved that game sm i’d love to see him and connor back at it again
I agree. I love his playthrough of that game.
Yes! It was so entertaining
yes!!! i just recently rewatched that series and that would be so fun!
@@JA-gb5gu yeah it’s only 4 yrs old 😅 but it’d still be fun to watch again
I liked the basement chase scene. It's a great character moment for Josh that people tend to forget about. Josh doesn't know the "intruder" here is Chris. Despite being upset with his friends for what they did to his sisters, Josh is still a good person inside. He purposely places himself between Sam and the "intruder" as Sam is trying to get the door open. He didn't have to do that. He could've still tried to break down the door or even put Sam in the middle to save himself, but he didn't. Whether this was the direction of the dev or something the actors did on their own, it's a nice insight into Josh. He wants his friends to pay for what they did but he still cares about them or at least a few of them.
I think that is partly true. I don't know if it's cannon or where I heard it, but I think Josh has a crush/is very emotionally close to Sam so he cares very deeply for her. I think the fact that he physically punches Ashley in the face shows he doesn't think that way for all of them. But other than that I agree! I love that character moment for Josh.
and remember sam tried to “stop” the prank. i still don’t understand why he tormented chris though because he was passed out drunk with josh when the prank went down so he really had absolutely nothing to do with it
@@saramcdougald2022 Well Josh does say that Chris and Ashley need a little trauma to push themselves closer to each other, so there you go he's trying to be a wingman for his buddy. Just the way he goes about it is really messed up.
@@MyCabbages8 Josh only ends up punching Ashley in the face d she stabs him with the scissors-otherwise he drugs her
I mean uh... he DOES try his hardest to get one of them cut in half so idk if I'd say he's still a good person inside 😅😅 If he was truly a good person deep down, he would've made sure only he got "hurt" and no one died. Yknow, like "just a prank!"
The amount of similarities in the last play through 7 years ago proves that Sean is the same person (though of course matured and experienced, but still the same person). He noticed the funny faces the therapist character model makes, he noticed the voice actors saying, “brr”, he’s still afraid of heights, he loved the banana slice pillow…moments like that are fun, because it’s like the video game…some moments are destined to happen no matter what. He’s still Sean.
Also when Hannah and Beth were hanging off the cliff, Jack says "nice butt shot" at exactly the same time both in 2015 and 2022. It was huge deja vu.
@@HiddenLunarWings lol no way
@@HiddenLunarWings lmfao really?? hahaha
Yes and I swear everytime there's a little key moment he says ALL THE EXCACT SAME THING he just react the same
And when Chris says he found something amazing, seans reaction was ‘weed’ in both playthroughs
Fun Facts From Forensic Psychology: While statistically speaking it is true that rates of psychopathy are higher in men than in women, there are several studies that suggest this is due to classification issues. Women are more likely to be diagnosed with histrionic or borderline personality disorders, even when the same symptoms resulted in a psychopathy diagnosis in male subjects. Sexism is alive and well in the psychiatric field, even with your psychopaths. Fun things you learn when writing research papers on female serial killers.
Is it also true that it takes 7 seconds longer for people to consider women a threat?
@@gh0st_xr i mean probably, if you didn't grow up with an abusive mother or an abusive female partner most people won't think that a woman is dangerous. Cops who have dealt with female abusers often talk about how female abusers are far more open about their abusive tendencies and even seem proud of them. The was also a case a while back about a female teacher who was abusing a thirteen-year-old boy (intimately I might add) who got only six months in jail. Humanity has a duality when it comes to women, we can do no wrong because we are women, or because we are women they must go easy on us.
@@maryorosco1027 You're not wrong, tbh. I have lost count of the number of times people have given women extra sympathy and leeway for committing crimes because they pumped out a few tears and gave a sob-story. Just about any video you watch on female predators, for instance (especially if their victims are boys), will have a big ol' chunk of people in the comment section making the wildest apologetics for them, in a way they would never do if the genders were reversed.
I wonder if it has something to do with the strength difference between men and women. As most know, men are stronger on average than women, so it could lead to the assumption that women cause less damage. But really, a bat full of nails is just as dangerous in a woman's hands as a man's hands.
Read that on wikipedia huh?
Jack now: "If you're more scraed of rats than snakes I don't trust you as a person"
Jack 6 yrs ago: "I think I am more scared of rats"
Trust no one. Not even yourself.
Lowkey not the same Sean
Most snakes are fine. But when you've been around uninvited rats on your own home, it changes a person.
Snakes are scarier, because they can actually kill you. Rats, at worst, will just give you a disease or two.
@@jwalster9412 yeah snakes usually only bite if they feel threatened. Whilst rats don’t need to be threatened to give you dangerous diseases and to steal all your food
"I wouldn't want this place to burn down on my watch"
"Watch out for that Josh, he's a schemer."
"They just need some traumatic event to push them into eachother's arms"
the foreshadowing in this game is literally next level
Josh’s whole speech in his video at the beginning gives me chills because now I know what he’s planning on doing, and his words have double meanings
like when he says he wants one on one time with everyone and to make memories 😬
I was watching a play through with a friend who had already seen it and when he said that stuff I IMMEDIATELY was like “he’s the bad guy he wants to kill them all look at all those double meanings!”
But she told me it’s not like that? So now I’m watching to see what she could mean 🤷🏻♀️
It was blatantly obvious it was him because he's the only the character we don't play as in the first hour until he supposedly "dies" 😂
Finally watching this replay.
Sam and Chris weren’t responsible for The Twins, always makes me wonder why Josh didn’t spare them.
At least for Chris, Josh wasn't targeting him for his sick revenge so much as trying to get him to finally make a move on Ashley by putting them in a harrowing situation together so that the "near death" experience would bring them closer together.
As for Sam, he may be targeting her because she didn't try "hard enough" to stop Hannah and/or Beth. Or maybe because he was passed out drunk, he didn't realize that Sam didn't actually take part in the prank.
Or Hell, maybe Josh had a crush on Sam, and he planned on having a "maniac" find and tie her up and then "save" her later as Josh, and she'd be so grateful to him that she'd fall for him.
And he doesn't do much to Emily and Mike and Jessica, the actual planners of said prank
Because he’s highly unstable and people that are that unstable do unpredictable things for reasons that aren’t always logical
I heard Chris intentionally got Josh drunk so he couldn't interfere with anything during the prank, so it makes sense he'd still include him.
@@yoshidollface Well, he didn't really have a chance given the whole... Wendigo thing.
Ok but Emily saying “It was just a prank Han!” And Greg saying “FUUUUUCK IT SO MUCH” in one edit? Absolutely gorgeous.
Jack should do another run through of simulacra it would be awesome and he could try another ending
legit he said that right as i read your comment
Time stamp?
@@Memories_in_Chains 6:55
@@Wolfbarr01 thx
“It’s just a prank Han” will forever remain in my vocabulary.
any time i thought of Until Dawn prior to my heavy rewatching, the first thing i would hear in my brain was "IT'S JUST A PRANK HAN"
Right next to "This is the SAFE ROOM, EM!" and "understand the palm of my hand, bitch."
@@tychopanda oh yeah Fs… and “ what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger”
11:23
I love how Jack 7 years ago and Jack today both notices the "ass shot" LMAO
Iconic asses transcend time
I mean, it's obvious.
But it fits to the whole 90s Teenie Horror slasher setting.
"It was just a prank, Han!"
No, it was her entire group of friends and the guy she has a crush on humiliating her and invading her privacy. Yikes. I hated that.
Well, Sam and Chris didn't do anything
@@ochako_gaming true Sam is her best friend and Chris is passed out alongside with Josh
She was going to sleep with her friends boyfriend…
@@Yeehaw6424 doesn't negate what they did though. mike and emily both consented to it, and mike was the one to initiate it with a girl he KNOWS likes him. obvious power imbalance, esp considering he's popular too.
@@Yeehaw6424 just because she was going to do something wrong doesn’t mean everyone else didn’t do something wrong too. Yes, she was gonna sleep with her friend’s bf but that doesn’t justify what they put her through. Everyone that was in that room was in the wrong. The only difference is that she was alone in her wrong doing while everyone else teamed up against her in their wrong doing.
I loved when I had the realization that everything Josh did to Chris was him trying to be his wingman. It always confused me why he was putting him through so much when he wasn't part of the prank, but then it hit me.
And he keeps saying they need a traumatic event to bring them together
I can't help but feel like in Until Dawn the characters feel way more real than in the other games, like expressions and such are so much more smooth and detailed
Yes. Somehow graphics look better too. I couldn’t stand the bad lighting in the quarry
Yeah its probably bc everyone keeps trying to make their graphics look ultra realistic when it shouldnt be
For me it's the writing. Who they become by the end of the night makes so much more sense to me. Like Dylan was the only one who had the same kind of progression in the Quarry
Me too!!
Some characters and expressions were too uncanny valley in the Quarry.
@@MimiUsagichan right.
Jack 7 years ago: SEXY YOGA PANTS, YO!
Jack now: Those leggings aren't going to keep you warm in this weather.
He's getting old 😂
Finally has his priorities straight
@@tychopanda he had his priorities straight both times.
Yoga pants are sexy asf. But also horrible to wear in the cold lol.
awh man
What about fleece-lined leggings?
As someone whose primary response is flight I definitely get why Hannah's instinct was to go outside. Sometimes that's the only place where there's no one around and you just need to breathe some outside air, even if later you regret it, like Hannah probably did when she realized she'd left without a coat. You don't always think straight in stressful situations.
In Hannah's room you can find a personality quiz that ends up saying the only way for her crush to notice her is by doing something crazy spontaneous, like getting a tattoo or running away. I think she did it assuming Mike would follow her instead of Beth.
When this game came out and the line “ITS JUST A PRANK HAN”. That was the moment my name was dead to me
i love this comment im so sorry 😭😭
whats wrong han, its just a prank
Ok but Hannah Hammond sounds like such an epic fantasy kinda name
It’s just a prank *HAN*
Honestly it was funny how fast a recoiled after I heard that line again after 7 years of representing it
- sincerely, another Hannah
Jack: I don’t think I did guess in 2015 that Josh was… a bad person.
Jack in 2015: ITS JOSH HES A CREEP
To be fair, everyone thought he was a creep. That's why it's such a great twist, everyone thinks he the killer, to then see Josh get killed, and then have our minds blown because the whole thing was "just a prank" which ties back to the beginning of the game quite well.
The sad thing is that, iirc, Josh has undiagnosed and thus unmedicated schizophrenia (or something similar). He's not a bad person per se, just in a very unlucky situation that caused his mental health to decline to this extent.
@@kitrobins4469 and his therapist/actual doctor gave him the wrong medication, so he took more which made him more unhealthy
@@charlesgonzalez1406 yeah, he got like, antidepressants, right? Which have something to do with serotonin instead of dopamine, which is one of the bigger factors in schizophrenia…
@@kitrobins4469 yep, pretty much and it was hella costly at that, at the end of the day he was more of a victim than anyone else in the game
Jack saying "It's just a prank, han!" every second is so important to me
No one ever mentions that Sam was actually one of the only ones that wasn't in the room during the prank, and actually advised against it, like Sam didn't play a part in it, one of many reasons why she is the best characters in the game.
she also has no personality
Chris didn’t either tho. He was passed out on the counter
And Ashley, she was fuck knows where. It was only Mike, Jess, Emily, and Matt in the room
@@blitzvalentine363 Ashley was in the room too. She was to the right of Matt, peeking from kinda inside the closet I think.
@@lorzo2 Coulda swore she just ran off somewhere else since she was with Chris
Just for the record, I'd be VERY excited for a new Detroit: Become Human series. I absolutely love that game.
There are technically 85 different endings to Detroit, depending on the interactions between the mental/physical states of the 3 main characters. So many choices.
i was rewatching detroit when i realised he posted this and it’d be crazy to see another play through of it
Nah that 85 ending thing is bull it's like the quarry with it's 186 endings it's just a couple variations of like 3 different endings
Watching Jack play this again really makes me wish that the developers would have made the choice on the cliff a little more important. Even if it was just a tone change to the notes/journal you find close to the end I feel like it would have been the icing on the cake if there was just the slightest storytelling difference between Hannah and Beth falling together or Beth dropping Hannah. Because I am willing to bet Hannah would not have felt so bad about cannibalizing Beth if she was dropped.
Well, Hannah could have taken Beth apologizing as being unable to hold onto her anymore. The average person isn't going to be able to hold onto something with one hand while carrying the full weight of another person for very long.
Considering the trauma immediately after being dropped, plus waking up to find Beth dead next to her, I feel like she'd assume the best of her sister.
Honestly I would have just been happy to see one note where maybe there was just one day where Hannah saw Beth dropping her as a betrayal like the others pranking her. Even if it was a stray page to the journal in the lair I think it would have been a little more realistic. I feel like anyone in a similar position would swing back and forth between understanding the decision and loathing Beth for doing it.
i said the exact same thing!!
There is a tone change in the journal. If Beth let’s go of the branch, Hannah apologies in her diary, if Beth drops Hannah, then Hannah doesn’t feel regret eating her
Until Dawn really is a masterpiece. The plot and the pacing were nigh on perfect, which is luckily a part of a game that will always hold up against time. I’d comment on sound but I don’t have my headset atm. The graphics will get a little old over time (ex. the type of mocap animation), but as with all of our favorite decade or more old games, it becomes their quirk that we’ve come to love about them.
I know people who play PS1 games because of the nostalgia of that time in computer graphics. It's become a quite popular medium for indie games.
Indeed. I watched _SO_ many people play this game because the story was so excellent and misleading and surprising with great scares and plenty of panic.
@@ItsLadyJadey Yeah, up until the 2010's I was still going back to play games like the original Final Fantasy VII & VIII, GTA III, etc. The graphics are obviously outdated, but I still find them really fun to play.
@@NicolaiAAA Same here. I've watched a crap ton of people play this. I'm still doing so now, still always trying to find new playthroughs of this.
The graphics are fine. They are not like the early, crude 3D graphics we know from the Playstation, Saturn or N64.
Jack then: don't SAY brr, just shiver!
Jack now: DON'T "SAY" BRR, JUST SHIVER!
So glad Until Dawn is being talked about again. Such a great and unique horror game
YESSS
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i had to rewatch after watching playthroughs of the quarry and still feel like none of the developers games have come close to topping it yet
(they’re all cool in their own regard tho)
@@sunderedsoul6495 Framerate is 60fps on PS5. i like the controls with the fixed camera tbh.
Looking back at this knowing everything about Josh I can’t help but really feel for him. While his gross comments about partying and Chris and Ashley could be legit, looking back they really do feel like a mask. There is a chance that he did say these kind of things before his sisters passing, but it almost seems that these comments really are just a way to distract everybody and not what he actually feels.
Even if I’m wrong I can’t deny that Rami Malek is an amazing actor, and really played Josh well.
Watch Mr. Robot. You'll love Rami Malek even more!
Rami Malek is an amazing actor I literally watched Mr. Robot just because he was in it.
Edit: changed irobot to Mr robot because I am infact dumb asf.
@@ChrisTheMemeMan i, robot is the will smith movie
@@leeshapon yeah I realize that now. 😅 I'm an idiot sometimes and get things mixed up, sorry 😅
I felt awful for him when I played because it seemed to me like a trauma mask as well. I think Josh was probably always a little awkward but his sisters' disappearance and the reason he was no help that night really shattered his psyche I feel.
god Sam continues to be the best character in this game-
she doesn’t pick pointless fights with anyone, she’s levelheaded, she’s a fucking badass, her first instinct upon getting up to this cold ass mountain is to take a bath, and she doesn’t have a forced romance with one of the male characters like every other girl in the game. Sam FTW.
hell yeah i always thought that when this game launched
Which is hilarious because her actor has a tendency to play bitches
Mike has always been my favorite because of the turnaround. At first no one likes him and he seems like a tryhard but goes full Die Hard and becomes the brave hero. Sam was always second for me just because she's consistently likeable whereas I really expected to not like Mike
@@inventsable
i do also like Mike, they kinda set him up like hes gonna cheat on Jess with Emily, but that never actually happens, and he ends up being a cool (if a little stupid) guy
Sam’s a Mary Sue honestly. For pretty much the same reasons you stated, she has all these good traits, but does she have any downside? No.
Jack: "OH WOW EMILY, STRIKE A POSE, WHO IS SHE"
Jack a few seconds later, out of nowhere: "I hate cable cars."
Can we take a moment to appreciate the editor who pulled off overlaying in-game text over Sean's camera with animations? That was a thoughtful touch for us viewers. Thank you editor.
Yeah it’s pretty top notch
was hoping someone would say this
I like how complex Josh’s character is, dealing with mental health issues before his sisters’ disappearance and adding trauma on to that with their disappearance, just puts the “prank” he did in a whole new light for me. Plus adding on the fact that he was probably really close to his sister and they were probably there for him the most when he struggled with his mental health, makes it all so much sadder.
Doesn't excuse what he did but I still really feel bad for him.
Jack: "The game came out in 2015"
Me: "Yeah, that sounds right"
Jack: "...Because it happened 7 years ago..."
Me: "What the fu-"
2015 was 7 years ago... holy shit
@Every Man's Queen wdym?
@Every Man's Queen ... what do you mean ?
@Every Man's Queen lmao
@Every Man's Queen You're the one that's lost here and I hope you'll notice it eventually :p
Rami Malek has officially won my heart as one of the best actors, ever. Whatever role he’s put into, he really goes all out. After seeing Bohemian Rhapsody, I gained such a new level of respect for him. He portrayed Freddie Mercury so damn well. Absolutely phenomenal.
dont forget he’s flip mcvicker ! lol
Jack: puts Freddy jump scare in binoculars.
Me: It's just a prank Han.
it was so unexpected and that's what made it so hilarious
l have been scrolling for SO LONG to see if anyone else even acknowledged this lol
@@brodyalloway2144 me too and now im curious as to what the actual face was supposed to be
yeah i am really curious what there actually was since jack reacted to sincerly
@@pathentics the face of a wendigo up close to the telescope!
One little character thing I love in this game is at the beginning Jess is clearly close with Emily and is in on the prank because she’s “looking out for my girl Em” and then ends up with Mike a year later 💀
that could explain why em was so rude to jessica in the beginning
Which means that the prank and by extension Beth and Hannah's deaths, were completely pointless!
Rami Malek is an incredible actor. Seeing him play the crazy guy in The Pacific and this game, compared to the lovable characters in Night at the Museum and Bohemian Rhapsody is fascinating
He was in the most recent James Bond movie, and was incredible.
I never realized that was Rami Malek in Until Dawn lmao. The Pacific is an amazing show.
He’s one of those actors that is given a role and he becomes one with that role. When you see him acting, he’s not Rami in that moment, he is whatever character he’s portraying. The more an actor believes that they are/can be that character, the better the outcome and Rami is absolutely phenomenal in all accords.
Mr. Robot
he was in the little things w jared leto and he was absolutely fantastic. he's been one of my favorite actors since night at the museum (😂) and it's been awesome to see him become so successful!
Oh funny how I didn't realize how American some of these references are until I watched Sean playing this. Cochise was an Apache chief during the Apache Wars, and has a very heroic and mythologized death. He's depicted quite a bit in movies, very famously in "Broken Arrow". Rami's "see for yourself, pilgrim" is meant to be a John Wayne impression. Given Josh is a cinephile, and the game uses a lot of Native American lore, Josh making references to classic Westerns is underscoring all that world building by the game.
Oh dang thanks for that context, I had no idea for years.
I was JUST thinking about how I miss these kind of playthroughs, not just from this channel but overall. There's just a lack of games that are enjoyable to watch being made when back in the let's play peak games were being made with stories and styles to accommodate the trend. Naturally let's players had to change their range of content. Then everyone started getting striked and well, all things end.
I am really hoping he will do Detroit Become Human again. Watching him play that and Spider-Man helped me get into those games. I love those games and replay them a lot
@@lilpickle7575 I think the best thing about his Spider-Man playthrough was how much he was into the game and how happy he was while playing it.
I've felt this way as well for a while now glad to see I'm not alone
Rami did such a good job portraying the Unsettling Nice Guy act. We've all seen this kind of guy in real life and thats the most scary thing about this 😭
We have?
@@boomboom1139 I should correct: Most women have run into this type of guy.
@@boomboom1139 If you can’t spot him, it might be you 😶
@@mattwood1562 you got that from two words? 😂 wanna tell me my future now? Or maybe just maybe.. consider the fact we don’t all live the same lives with the same people 😱
@@boomboom1139 Sure: Your firstborn child will be born a puppy
If you ever play hide and seek with Jack all you have to do is shout, "WHAT DOESNT KILL YOU WILL MAKE YOU STRONGER!" And he will shout back, "BUT WHAT IF THEY CUT OFF
"I'm terrified of snakes...although I've never seen one properly in real life." Of course not, Jack, you're from IRELAND.
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Well of course there's no snakes in Ireland, Saint Patrick got rid of them all.
Only thing he’s seen to be afraid of is rain.
on his tangent about snakes i laughed, im from the south so theres a lot of snakes, but i moved to NY for college and i scream every time i see a rat. i am the people jack is worried about
Saint Patrick got rid of all the snakes, that's just science
I actually used this game as the basis of a project for my Native American Studies class, specifically about pop culture appropriation of Native American cultural elements for horror tropes. While the game still uses Native American belief systems as the background for the horror, the details of how things are used and, I think most interestingly, the depiction of the Wendigo line up pretty well with the actual folklore as opposed to the more familiar depiction of a Wendigo as a monstrous bipedal deer.
The monstrous bipedal deer may have something to do with another Native belief of skin walkers. Essentially pop culture grouping things with the same origin to create a popular/culturally appropriated monster. Just a thought though 😅😁
@@isabellmarie8381 Some tribes/cultures have different versions of the Wendigo. I remember growing up with the lumberjack stories of it. Our Wendigos were monsters that could shapeshift. The lumberjacks would say that they were caused by lumberjacks before them who had been stuck before in the woods during severe Winters and had gone through famine so severe some had eaten each other. There's legends of entire camps of lumberjacks getting decimated by Wendigos. They are only legends, but still.
@@AnonningAnon That's the legends I've heard. Once you defile the law of nature by consuming human flesh, it twists your body into something unnatural.
is it offensive to use the concept of the "pop culture wendigo (monstrous deer)" just as a monster, not a wendigo. I've always loved the monster design but i didnt realize it was incorrect. sorry for the late comment as well lol
@@prcat2003 to be honest it's a problem when they claim it to be "authentic". Yeah I'm not a native American but I'm not an American either. But I see monsters etc. being used to inspire something that yeah is different etc. but still has soul in it as not really offensive. Because if it was well... It'd be really stupid to be offended by something that has happened all over human history, y'know, cultural exchange instead of going "You're evil because that's our practice and you're not allowed to do that!"
No other game by Supermassive Games has surpassed the quality and overall experience that Until Dawn provides the players. This series is truly amazing and seeing this played in 2022 gets me all nostalgic.
OH ITS YOU, WHY DO YOU GOT NO REPLIES
And yeah, Until Dawn is a pretty unique game than any other of the other games.
Periodddd
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I swear I see you everywhere.
One thing I absolutely loved about this game is that based on your choices with Dr. Hill, the chapter titles change. During Jack’s first play through chapter 1, the title was Memento Mori and this play through, it’s Friendship. I like that
Unus Annus
I never knew that
You just know that flamethrower dude is like, "Oh fucking hell, it's all them damn kids again!! I ain't got time for this!"
Jack in 2022: "In 2015, I don't think that I guessed Josh was a bad person, because I remember being surprised by it when it happened."
Jack in 2015 after playing 5 minutes of the game: "Josh is definitely the killer, something about him is weird."
HAHA I was wondering when someone would notice that😂
Tbf I think he meant after he "died", ik he didn't say that and before it he 100% did predict it, but I don't think anyone expected him to have a fake body to kill so most people moved on to different theories
Jack: "If you're afraid of rats more than snakes i don't trust you as a person"
Also Jack last time: "rats definitely scare me more because I've never seen a snake in real life"
his answers were pretty different.
I was looking for this 😂 I'm glad someone else watched to compare as well lol
And he said he's still never seen a snake in real life later in this playthrough
Trust no one, not even yourself
As a rat and snake owner for years, rats are so much faster, more unpredictable, and way more likely to bite 💀
There's a VR game that is a prequel to Until Dawn called The Impatient and its interesting and I love it. It's basically about you being a patient in the sanatorium when the wendigos all break out. Would love to see Jack play it
YES PLEASE
YES! I agree. I would love to see him play this one.
@Kavetion You can't beat a God my friend
@@Thirust he can if it's a "being alive" competition
@@ryantalley5284 is it really living if all you do is say you're better than the deceased in youtube comment sections
These friends literally took every opportunity to prank each other in the creepiest ways. It's no wonder two of them ended up dead.
1:48:30 Josh’s smile dropping off his lips so suddenly is super fucking chilling
I’ve played this game countless times and I have never noticed that before omg
It's legitimately one of my favorite bits of foreshadowing. So subtle that so many people didn't notice.
Honestly thought it was a glitch bc of how fast it was
"I don't trust you if you fear rats more than snakes"
jack in 2015 : "I think rats scare me more than snakes"
It's called self doubt. I agree with old jack tho
He picked snakes then too though
But consider this, the rat snake, the rake. And what’s more? It has knives for hands and one for a tail
"Fuuck it so muuch!" and "It was just a prank, Han" are true classics of gaming horror dialogue
LMFAO
I’m happy he referenced simulacra 😂 made me giggle
The mini-mashup made me laugh so hard i love it
Fuuuick it soooo muuuch 😫
Also I love Robin's sort of songify that mix of it was just a prank. That just made it more hilarious
Dr Hill is worked into the story so well. Actually having those segments act as Josh's therapy sessions makes him feel like part of the world, as opposed to the Curators obsession with acting as an uninvolved observer. It felt like they didn't know how to work him into the stories, so they just didn't.
so true! but the curator is cool enough that i don’t really care
@@daughterofcoldharbourWhen you have an entrance as badass as the curators all is forgiven 🤣
you have no idea how many years i’ve been quoting “ITS JUST A PRANK HANNNNN”
Jack has fëll döwñ I will rëplâce him
I’ve been started to again and was delighted to hear that being called back on the Bizarre Yet Bonafide podcast lol
Jumped out my seat when they made a similar quote in The Quarry
"It's just a prank anton!"
Not more than 7 years since the game was released 7 years ago on August 25th 2015
It's just a prank. Han
32:40 Uh, actually Jack... Chris is like, the one guy who had nothing to do with the prank that killed Hannah and Beth. He was passed out along with Josh during the whole event. Which is ironic considering how later in the game, Josh messes with Chris the most.
I've always thought that might be due to the fact he blames Chris because he blames himself for not being there. If Chris or Josh decided to Abstain, his sisters might be alive. While that sounds like a crazy idea, reminder that Josh is physically incapable of thinking properly.
@@matthewsimon6170 yea, it's explained later on that Josh is basically unable to tell right from wrong
To him, the "prank" he pulled on everyone was completely justified, he legitimately believed they would see it the same way he does because he can't understand that it's morally wrong to literally traumatize his friends
To be honest, it's such a sad reality that I don't think many people really catch on to, people just assume he's just evil for evils sake.
@@matthewsimon6170yeah it also probably doesn't help that Chris is likely the closest one to Josh, they seem like best friends and have known each other since 3rd grade. So Josh probably feels the worst about this painful betrayal from him (as he would probably rationalize it)
to be fair, he does that because as he tells Sam, he believes that Chris and Ashley need a traumatic event to bring them together. Still a messed-up thing to do ofc but it explains why they're targeted the way they are
Jack, 7 years ago: IS THAT A BANANA PILLOW? I WANT A BANANA PILLOW!
Jack, Today: Is that a slice of Banana pillow? I want a banana pillow
Came here looking for this comment
@@emmar1734 same
Someone get this poor man a banana pillow😂
jack in 2015: “i am scared if clowns, the joker especially”
jack in 2022: “the joker is cool”
The don’t move mechanic was so cool, I literally stopped breathing whenever it popped up in my playthrough. Especially the very last part of the game, it was so intense
Ayyyy nice pfp
@@AnEmu404 Ayyyy nice pfp
I need more games with mechanics like these!!! It's such a subtle thing that can be irritating but it's so COOL!
I read an interesting theory that was the Wendigo would've never run into the group if they had all stayed at the cabin, because it rarely ventured over to that part of the mountain.
So the two going to the guest cabin basically triggered everything that went down that night.
I do wonder, and I know it's typical horror trope of somebody not talking causing the story, why the guy didn't mention where Hannah and Beth fell off the cliff. Would've possibly saved the one twin!
I think it’s because the police were after him before that and if not they definitely thought he was a suspect, so to have him tell the police that he knew where they fell, I’m sure that wouldn’t look the best for him. Just my theory
It could be because they fell in the cave. We know the part of the cave with Hannah's journal had wendigos in it and he was probably worried that the part they fell into had wendigos as well. He wouldn't want to risk the lives of searchers
It always bothered me that they spent hours there without the Wendigo caring about them, but in the end it's like you can't even step out of the house without being attacked. So I really like your theory!
Honestly this is a good theory because the devs said Jacob is like the Jessica of the quarry. So like you said Jessica and Mike going to the guess cabin could’ve caused everything which is like how if Jacob didn’t mess with the car the counselors could’ve left
@@iangames5337 I *think* (might be wrong) that the stuff about the police being after him was fake. IIRC the posters, newspaper, even the message on the answering machine, were all Josh’s doing. To what end? Not sure.
Fun fact: the piece being played on the piano while you're having your first session with the psychologist is "Aria da capo" by Bach.
That piece is considered to be the "theme song" of Hannibal Lecter, both in the movie adaptations of the book in the early 2000s and in the 2013 series with Mads Mikkelsen.
Eary and elegant, just like Hannibal.
Is it just me or does until dawn just seem SO much more polished and well written? Maybe I’m dumb idk
im super late but I agree!! the dialogue is so much better
Nah its definitely the best one of the bunch, the others were good but never really hit as hard as until dawn
Yeah the Quarry is mid tbh and not as fleshed out or unexpected as this game
@@annabanana2665ummm no, no it isn’t. I love the game but y’all are glazing it to fuckin Hell. The dialogue has always been cringey, it’s no better than their new games.
@@barakaafrobama6519 Kind of late, but it’s supposed to be.. the game is a play on classic horror movies where the kids are dumb as hell, there’s going to be cringey dialogue
"I can't tell which ones are the twins"
On the radio: "Its been a year since TWIN sisters have gone missing"
“maybe Detroit is another game we can play again”
Me, shaking at an alarming frequency: yes I would like that a normal amount :>
Are you shaking and crying rn?
@@ItsJohnBomb oh definitely
Jack in 2015 : are those shoes? Oh no wait, that's a doll
Jack now : is that a shoe? No, that's a doll.
Some things never change
Woah XD
@Kavetion are you sure about that?
@Kavetion bro please, chill out. Stop doing that
The random fnaf jumpscare in the binoculars was so perfect
Finally someone who saw that😂
I have been scouring this comment thread cause I thought I was going crazy lol
@@kiara-janesykes7450SAME!
i screamed 😭😭 that was very much perfect tho
Jack plays Until Dawn: whatever doesnt kill you makes you stronger
Jack plays Man of Medan: whatever doesnt kill you makes you stronger
Jack plays Little Hope: whatever doesnt kill you makes you stronger
Also Jack after each of the above statement: but what if
And The Quarry.
"That would be kinda cool if you got to see the monster a little early"
All the prior Wendigo sneak peeks with Mike: *Am I a joke to you*
when?? I can never spot it lol
@@cookiedoughatkinson907 At 1:29:04 just after Mike picks up the totem, you can see a Wendigo skittering really fast on the wall behind him (that's what the suspense noise at that point is for), and at 1:34:02 when he's looking through the binoculars, the jumpscare that happens at that part is a Wendigo face :P
*Edit:* JackSepticEye edited a Freddy Fazbear face into the binocular part where the Wendigo is supposed to pop up, but yeah, in the unedited footage, it's a Wendigo face that he sees for a brief moment
@@quilaviper hilarious edit
feels so weird to be watching this now at 16 when 6 years ago i was 10 hiding under the covers every night to watch jack play this game for the first time without my parents seeing so i wouldn’t get in trouble, all this time and he’s still my favourite youtuber, crazy :,)
exact same here i was 13 when jack played this game for the first time and now here i am at 19 still enjoying watching him like nothing has ever changed
Dang has it really been 6 years? When it came out I just turned legally old enough to drink 😂
Same man, 17 now tho. Was 10 when I saw until dawn too
I was 15 and now I'm 21 and yet here :)
Wow seeing people who are my age here and who have watched sean since so long ago somehow makes me feel like i wish i knew him soon as well
Also, I notice that the room gets super messed up after Chris jumpscares Josh. It seems to throw his entire mindset off- he was probably hallucinating when Chris spooked them 🥺
Jack replaying game in 2022: I miss this game.
Jack finishing game in 2015: FUCK THIS GAME!
i love how basically everyone died in the final 20 minutes of the first playthrough lmao
@@allhailthesqloint Technically only Matt, Jess, Mike, and Sam died, but yes
@@whitefang2312 it was Ashley, Josh, Jess, Mike and Emily who died the first time.
I think “What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger” is the best running gag Jack has done so far 😂😂
This and DA MOOOOON!
I decided to look up the pewdiepie video where he's laughing at the overdramatic character intros in dramas from India because of how Sean was reacting to the character intros in the game and ended up watching another video where Felix says towards the end "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" and I found that coincidence pretty funny.
Fuck it so much from simulacra which got a cameo during Emily's it was just a prank Han song here is a pretty damn good one
@@justmolmoo7365 ahaha yes this is funny too, which game is it from!?
I LOVE when Sean replays games he already played. The thing is, JACK was great, but Sean is even better. His energy is now channeled, it's appropriate and not all over the place. The one thing I feel with old play throughs is that I LOVE HIS ENERGY but it was energy for the sake of it, and now it's put into good use with good jokes and meaningful commentary. Love you always, Sean
As soon as he said “someone might break through the window and kill ya” I immediately thought of “Break me off a piece of that Kit Kat bar” 😂😂😂
Very similar indeed but the latter is infinitely worse for all
When Jack said “you could have been hurt” I immediately went “OR WORSE. EXPELLED”
You really need to sort out your priorities
@@thomasrangeley2133 tell me you’re joking
@@mopayne9 It was there for the taking, I had to say it 😂
When she said, "You're a wizard!" my mind was instantly like *YOU'RE A WIZARD, HARRY*
@@kupkate04 I’m a what?
Whoever did the remix for the line "It's just a prank, Han" is a genius! I laughed so hard when I saw and heard that. Very glad to see a return to this series and curious to see how this play through differs to the last. Much love for ya, Sean!
it was our mad genius of a human Robin 🥰
“Fuck it so muuuuuch!”
I love the fuuuck it so much from simulacra
particularly loved the "fuuuuuhck it soo muuuch!" cameo
@Kavetion umm wrong channel bud
I just got to the part where the therapist appears for the first time, and I can’t believe I forgot how much I loved this whole “therapy” bit. How him and the room itself becomes more dark and creepy as the game progresses, as Josh’s mind rapidly deteriorates. It added more to the game and felt more essential to the story. Thank you for replaying this.
I would absolutely LOVE if Jack replayed Detroit! it’s my favorite playthrough Jack has done. I’ve been going on a binge of Jack playing supermassive games so youtube is like “you wanna watch him play Detroit for the 4th time?” And I’m like “do not tempt me! Because I will.”.
I actually wanted to see you replay Until Dawn, especially after seeing the whole Quarry series. I'm so glad you're doing this!
Jack has fëll döwñ I will rëplâce him
SAME I JUST CLICKED SO FAST
When this series came out, I’d watch it every day on my way to track meets my junior year of high school, depressed, isolated and out of shape.. now I’m a college graduate, married to a fellow gamer, manage a gym, and still watch every one of Jack’s videos.
Life is weird, funny, but can be good sometimes ❤️
Your story gives me hope. So cool to hear stuff like this
@@kamrynbolan9525 appreciate that, if I’ve learned one thing it’s that it does get better if you’re not afraid to accept help if you’re fortunate enough to have even one supportive person in your life
Until Dawn really is one of the most immersive games and I'm not talking about the mechanics of the game controller's motion detection or touch pad; it's everything else. You get drawn in by the atmosphere and the realism of the graphics, you want to figure out the mystery and predict which way the story will go, and you quickly become invested in these characters. Even if they start as kind of stock, the actors playing them give them life through their performances and you find yourself relating to the kids and rooting for their survival.
Overlaying the character descriptions over the facecam was a very nice touch and really shows how the channel has grown over the years