Porsche 911 GT3 RS vs Corvette Z06 | Too much for the road?

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  • @CARmagazineTV
    @CARmagazineTV  Рік тому +11

    Which car gets your vote?
    For the written review, be sure to read the upcoming September issue of CAR magazine available in print, online and digital editions soon.

    • @fqeagles21
      @fqeagles21 Рік тому +5

      I think Ferrari 296 GTB should give them a run for the money

    • @dash-ryan
      @dash-ryan Рік тому +19

      Some education:
      GT3 Touring = Z06
      GT3 = Z06+Z07 Performance Pack
      GT3RS = ZR1 (coming soon)
      So, this review had the cards stacked against the Corvette right from the start.

    • @ssaini5028
      @ssaini5028 Рік тому +5

      @@dash-ryan you are forgetting about the upcoming 992 GT2

    • @jmmch3358
      @jmmch3358 Рік тому +1

      1.Porsche GT3RS
      2. Corvette Z06
      3. Porsche GT3/GT4RS

    • @VK6AB-
      @VK6AB- Рік тому +3

      @@fqeagles21 Agreed I went for a 296 GTB over the 992 GT3 RS, I couldn't see any point upgrading from my 991.2 GT3 RS. I have also driven the 992 GT3 RS hard on track and fully logged it, whilst excellent it didn't blow me away anymore than my 991.2 GT3 RS, on slow and medium average speed tracks the difference is small - high average speed tracks like Spa or the ring you gain more benefit for sure. Probably the bigger issue for me was the engine and gear box didn't move the game on. Couldn't care less about the interior, adjustable damping in cab is great. And yet overall it didn't really move me - probably because the engine and gear box didn't really move the game on. I might take a look at the 992.2 RS, we'll see.

  • @TheilliterateLibrarian
    @TheilliterateLibrarian Рік тому +94

    GM engineers specifically spent a ton of time working on the exhaust itself to perfect the sound. It’s designed to be center exit. The side exit euro spec sounds nothing like the USA spec

    • @JeepCherokeeful
      @JeepCherokeeful Рік тому

      Obviously they didn’t spend enough!

    • @TheilliterateLibrarian
      @TheilliterateLibrarian Рік тому +17

      @@JeepCherokeeful yea not the euro one cause who cares about them. All about the USA baby!!! It sounds better than a 458 over here in the usa😎

    • @americanrroyalty
      @americanrroyalty Рік тому

      @@JeepCherokeefulblame those communist in the EU

    • @NJ-jc9iq
      @NJ-jc9iq Рік тому +4

      ​@@JeepCherokeeful You can blame the stupid Euro emission regulations for that, this sounds like a completely different car in this video, plus lower HP on the euro spec.

    • @jimsteinway695
      @jimsteinway695 10 днів тому

      In Australia they say the z06 sounds like a Camry. Too bad Aussie government stinks

  • @terryforsythe8083
    @terryforsythe8083 Рік тому +141

    First, the Z06 and GT3 target different buyer expectations, and I don't think there are many people cross shopping them. The GT3 wholly is track focused, whereas the Z06 is more of a balance between daily driving and track use , and only comes with a targa top or as a convertible. Does the GT3 even offer a targa top or convertible? (If so, I have not seen one). Second, the Z06 and GT3 are in completely different price categories. The base price of the Z06 is more in line with the Carrera. Considering price, and the fact that the Carrera is closer to the Z06 in daily driving comfort, that probably would be the better comparison. But, I can't recall the last time a car magazine compared a Corvette to another car in its price category - they almost always compare the Corvette to cars costing significantly more money (1.5X, 2X, 3X, etc.). The fact that car magazines cannot find an equivalently priced car that even comes close to the Corvette in daily driveability, performance, etc., that tells you which car really is the winner.

    • @adonislimes6156
      @adonislimes6156 Рік тому +4

      Nobody is cross shopping a C8 Z06 and Carrera (theres the Z51 C8 for that). They serve different buyers markets.
      On a side note good luck getting a Z06 for anywhere close to MSRP. They are all going for $130k the second you tick any options box which puts them squarely in 911 GT3/Touring (not RS) price points to which many people are cross shopping them.
      The GT3 RS is obviously an outlier and theres nothing in the market that track focused short of a McLaren Senna so you can't objectively compare it to anything.

    • @terryforsythe8083
      @terryforsythe8083 Рік тому +14

      @@adonislimes6156
      There is a fallacy in your argument - Corvettes are not the only cars selling over MSRP. Markups on 911 GT3s are even higher than on Z06s, at least here in the U.S. Even used 2022 and 2023 GT3s are selling for almost $300k. Of course, you can get a Z06 for MSRP if you are patient enough to wait in the allocation line. The same probably can be said for the GT3.
      Moreover, most people have a budget when shopping for a new car, and do not significantly vary from that budget, certainly not enough to jump from the price of a Z06 to the price of a GT3. So, although few people may cross shop a Z06 with a Carrera, even fewer will cross shop a new Z06 with a new GT3.

    • @terryforsythe8083
      @terryforsythe8083 Рік тому +5

      @@adonislimes6156
      Also, very few people are cross shopping a Stingray with a Carrera for the same reason I noted in my previous reply. The MSRP for the base Carrera is nearly double that of the Stingray, and even a little higher than the MSRP of the Z06. Start adding in options to get a Stingray and Carerra comparably equipped, and the Carrera will be more than double the price of the Stingray. People rarely make that jump in price when buying a new car. The vast majority of people buying Carerras want a Porsche, and never give serious consideration to a Chevrolet in the first place.

    • @terryforsythe8083
      @terryforsythe8083 Рік тому

      @@adonislimes6156
      Lastly, since the question may come up, I did buy my C8 Stingray at MSRP and, yes, I did have to wait a while. The Bowling Green manufacturing plant now is at full production, so wait time on Stingrays is significantly shorter than when I purchased mine. It should get even shorter unless there is another strike by the United Auto Workers.

    • @Corvetteran88
      @Corvetteran88 Рік тому +8

      I love that corvettes are always compared to much more expensive cars! The bang for the buck is what makes me love corvettes so much. I race a c5z06 that I payed $15,000 for and it is so satisfying to beat cars that cost 50-60k more.

  • @Mr.Waffullz
    @Mr.Waffullz Рік тому +110

    Sucks everyone else doesn't get the center open exhaust like we do. Hopefully the aftermarket can fix that across the pond 😉

    • @magistrate7009
      @magistrate7009 Рік тому +29

      Yup, literally the only reason their version sounds like shit is because of compliance to euro laws. Watch speed phenoms first time drive in C8 Z06 to get an actual estimate of how the car sounds like, its glorious.

    • @aab350z
      @aab350z Рік тому +16

      So funny how crazy the law and bureaucracy has gotten. No more center pipes, and it's too loud! Lol.

    • @Mr.Waffullz
      @Mr.Waffullz Рік тому +17

      @@aab350z yeah I thought California had the most strict emissions, but Europe said hold my beer 🍺

    • @brandonchism6960
      @brandonchism6960 Рік тому +5

      1 second ago
      thanks for writing this... I was over here like why is the exhaust on the outside and not in the middle.

    • @Mr.Waffullz
      @Mr.Waffullz Рік тому +6

      @@brandonchism6960 yeah I think that slightly skewed his review of the Z06, because it sounds AMAZING unrestricted!

  • @SpencerMedia
    @SpencerMedia Рік тому +67

    Keep in mind the euro spec Z06 seems to have a different exhaust than the US spec Z06 (It looks like the base C8 Exhaust). Didn’t find the sound the same at all in comparison to the US reviews.

    • @MikesLARE
      @MikesLARE Рік тому +4

      I knew something was a bit off!

    • @saltyfloridaman7163
      @saltyfloridaman7163 Рік тому +9

      The euro Z06 loses 40hp

    • @leemiddlekauff680
      @leemiddlekauff680 6 днів тому

      Wonder if he wasn't aware of the 4 driving modes and didnt discover the performance mode.

  • @uGotGot1618
    @uGotGot1618 Рік тому +38

    Damn, those euro emissions rules really messed up the sound in the z06

    • @seattleblaze
      @seattleblaze Рік тому +5

      Plus a reduced HP in the Euro Corvette model.

    • @yimpyoi9808
      @yimpyoi9808 4 місяці тому

      and lower flow exhaust also means 40 less hp

  • @Wallstreetavarice
    @Wallstreetavarice Рік тому +264

    GT3 vs Z06 would be the fair test as those are the real rivals. The GT3 RS is a much more track oriented and expensive car than the Z06.

    • @Pistolita221
      @Pistolita221 Рік тому +53

      literally 2x the price of the Z06 even with the Z07 package.

    • @emj2068
      @emj2068 Рік тому +15

      Agreed

    • @bobhenry6159
      @bobhenry6159 Рік тому +96

      European reviewers always do this. Afraid to compare Apples to Apples. Why? There are PLENTY of European sports cars in the 110K pound range, but they know the Vet would embarrass them, so they find a way out.

    • @markw9512
      @markw9512 Рік тому +47

      Porsche started shipping this to the Z06 comparos after the normal GT3 lost to it at the track.

    • @coreyegan6751
      @coreyegan6751 Рік тому +24

      ​@@markw9512it lost by 1/10th in Savage geese video... With 150hp less... Hardly a loss

  • @relaxing_white_noises_by_j1980
    @relaxing_white_noises_by_j1980 Рік тому +28

    Here in the states, Z06 Corvettes have a center-mounted exhaust. It's unfortunate that the cars produced for overseas markets have the same exhaust position as the Stingrays.

    • @realdeal7188
      @realdeal7188 Рік тому +1

      Yea its due to euro decibal restrictions the exhaust had to be modified for export but still the Z06 is an amazing car to say the least.

    • @relaxing_white_noises_by_j1980
      @relaxing_white_noises_by_j1980 Рік тому +1

      @@realdeal7188 I definitely agree 👍🏾

  • @Patrick-bu5vy
    @Patrick-bu5vy Рік тому +86

    The Z06 is an absolute steal relative to the Porsche. It is a monster on track too - every inch a true rival for the mighty GT3RS. Well done GM for building a car that has become an instant legend.

    • @tecumseh4095
      @tecumseh4095 Рік тому

      😂😂😂

    • @lovelehstuff
      @lovelehstuff Рік тому +15

      ​@@tecumseh4095motorsport magazine confirm it's faster so no need to laugh

    • @philippeleblond9631
      @philippeleblond9631 Рік тому +2

      A legend is not a ugly fat pig 3700lbs mid engine that we see everywhere! It's a american sports car. Let me choose every other mid engine than this design who was already old in 2020!

    • @tecumseh4095
      @tecumseh4095 Рік тому

      @@philippeleblond9631 👏 👏

    • @aaronvector4750
      @aaronvector4750 Рік тому +13

      @@philippeleblond9631 how many high revving naturally aspirated V8 cars are available today? Besides the Z06, I don't see anyone.

  • @Wrigy3
    @Wrigy3 Рік тому +27

    One small bit being forgotten here... Its that you cant get a GT3RS for under 350k USD...

    • @nuniday3675
      @nuniday3675 Рік тому +1

      i just got one for 297k

    • @Epsonblade
      @Epsonblade Рік тому +2

      Does that mean I can have a Z06 in two different colors in my garage. One for rain and one for shine...These can be picked up state side for around $125 with a few options.

    • @billymays7210
      @billymays7210 Рік тому +1

      @@Epsonblade No you can't. They are going for at or over $200k.

    • @Epsonblade
      @Epsonblade Рік тому +1

      @@billymays7210 I don't pay dealer mark up, MY DAD OWNS 7 DEALERSHIPS IN FLORIDA... SO YEAH, YEAH I CAN.

    • @billymays7210
      @billymays7210 Рік тому

      @@Epsonblade
      1) You said “these can be picked up for $125k” not “I can get these for MSRP because…”
      2) HAHAHAHAHAHAHA @ MY DADDY OWNS DEALERSHIPS SO I CAN 😂😂😂 PRICELESS! Thank you for the meme!
      3) My daddy can beat up your daddy! 😘😘😘

  • @latroyrobinson
    @latroyrobinson Рік тому +21

    If you're interested in seeing a real world head to head on track review, check out Savagegeese Z06 vs GT3 track test. Real race car driver supported by each manufacturer's support teams (test starts aprox 26min in / surprisingresult). Although that Porche is SWEET, for the money the Zo6 is an easy choice to make.

    • @rondail5675
      @rondail5675 Рік тому +1

      Exactly Correct!!

    • @Extra-dg7uv
      @Extra-dg7uv Рік тому +2

      That was the standard GT3. This is the RS. In Hagerty's test, the GT3 RS was faster than the Z06 around Willow Springs.

  • @TheStallion234
    @TheStallion234 Рік тому +7

    I mean, to each his own, but I've heard that Z06 engine, and I frankly have no idea what he's talking about. This video did it no justice, but it sounds glorious. Also, didn't realize this immediately, but the entire exhaust setup in the euro-spec car is completely different than US Z06. In the States, the Z06 has 4 central exhaust tips. I wonder if that's due to European noise regulations, and if that's the case, what a shame.

    • @TheStallion234
      @TheStallion234 Рік тому +6

      @ernestkeller186 Because a British reviewer will never give an American car the credit it deserves

  • @dash-ryan
    @dash-ryan Рік тому +43

    The Corvette is an astonishing accomplishment to this day, because it's built by a mass production car company. Porsche is dedicated to building sports cars and couldn't pull this off without selling SUVs with VW money. For GM, a general-purpose car builder, to build a flat-plane V8 super car is as astounding as Honda building the NSX, and perhaps more so because GM has been doing it non-stop for 70 years! It's just as long a legacy as Porsche.

    • @rkoon57
      @rkoon57 Рік тому +10

      Absolutely agree; well stated.

    • @TylerSmithMusic1
      @TylerSmithMusic1 Рік тому

      And pay there workers criminal wages…

    • @dash-ryan
      @dash-ryan Рік тому

      @@TylerSmithMusic1 Although I understand, GM has been teetering on bankruptcy for decades now with government bail outs and such. Unless we all are willing to pay Porsche money for GM product, I'm not sure what the answer is.

    • @TylerSmithMusic1
      @TylerSmithMusic1 Рік тому +1

      @@dash-ryan which were paid for by American tax dollars. We save the company, and get charged over price for every vehicle as they make record profits and stock buyback? Porsche is a specialty company I got that. But mass production is only impressive if you take out the fact that the people who create the vehicles you love, are worked like 2nd class citizens

    • @dash-ryan
      @dash-ryan Рік тому

      @@TylerSmithMusic1 Just wait until the market is flooded with inexpensive Chinese EVs. They will also turn huge profits because their employees are worked like 3rd class citizens, at best. My point is that although you make a good point and all employees should be given fair wages and good work conditions, how do compete in a global economy with product made for far less with cheap and inhuman labor? My only thought is for all people to change their buying habits in favor of supporting your local economy. Walmart is a perfect example of how people who don't like the way Walmart shuts down the local mom-and-pop operations when they show up, but is that Walmart's fault or the community's fault for not supporting local business? How do you convince people to take the higher road in their buying habits, when they themselves need a price break to survive? You're right, GM needs to treat it's employees better, but you also have a responsibility then to support GM with your buying dollars.

  • @davidnicholson6680
    @davidnicholson6680 Рік тому +50

    Did I miss something or was the gigantic price difference between these two cars barely mentioned? Also, Z06 production is just ramping up and the car should be easier to get soon... but almost no one will ever be able to actually buy a GT3RS.

    • @bensam3136
      @bensam3136 Рік тому +18

      literally bro and they always down play the z06 as if it’s not half the price and beats the porsches on tracks🤣🤣

    • @slats1987
      @slats1987 Рік тому +1

      Price difference....with import costs to the UK they'd be a similar price and given this is a UK review...................the C8 is going for between £100k-£140k.
      Which converting us $120k-$160k US.

    • @Cane1992
      @Cane1992 Рік тому +10

      ​@@slats1987 The Porsche starts at $241,000 😮😮😮

    • @howarddavies136
      @howarddavies136 Рік тому +9

      ​@Cane1992 plus the cost for four other Porsches you'll have to buy first before you can get on the list!

    • @papa_pt
      @papa_pt Рік тому +8

      well it's a euro review. That's why 😂

  • @camonly849
    @camonly849 Рік тому +15

    Porsche is amazing, no doubt but I could never spend twice as much for 1 or 2 seconds slower on a track. You'll never notice.

  • @Petrol_and_Cabernet
    @Petrol_and_Cabernet Рік тому +31

    Car Magazine has the most illogical pairings of cars and then makes the judgment based on random facts. There is no way that people are cross-shopping these two cars. First off, unless you have a garage full of Porsches, there is no way you can get in line to buy a new GT3 RS. Plus, let's load some luggage into each car. The GT3 RS is a track day monster, and the Z06 is simply not that.

    • @yagamikiralight8805
      @yagamikiralight8805 Рік тому +2

      People might not cross shop them but both are track toys so....

    • @joe718gt4
      @joe718gt4 Рік тому +3

      Z06 is a track car once you have the Z06 package, just not at the level the GT3 RS is. Edit: meant Z07

    • @CARmagazineTV
      @CARmagazineTV  Рік тому +6

      One man’s illogical is another man’s thought-provoking! ;)

    • @yagamikiralight8805
      @yagamikiralight8805 Рік тому

      @@CARmagazineTV Based

    • @iluvcakes19
      @iluvcakes19 Рік тому

      ​@@CARmagazineTV😂😂

  • @daniels3899
    @daniels3899 Рік тому +13

    wish they did the quad center exhaust on the z06 in europe too. Also the car sounds more muted in Euro spec how sad

    • @aab350z
      @aab350z Рік тому +3

      I'm guessing different regulations just to legalize it there? Sad they don't get the same car.
      Kinda reminds of 30 years ago, when they ruined Lambo's with EPA stuff just to be able to sell them in America.

  • @scottfowler8558
    @scottfowler8558 Рік тому +5

    The Z06 for Europe doesn't have the quad center exhaust??? That's too bad. ☹

  • @geoffclarke3796
    @geoffclarke3796 Рік тому +53

    The GT3RS get my vote but the Z06 is a brilliant car too, probably the best car America has ever produced.

    • @YusufSayed-px2xy
      @YusufSayed-px2xy Рік тому +19

      US made plenty of great cars other than the Z06 like the Chevy Camaro ZL1 1LE, 2016 Dodge Viper ACR, 2020 Shelby GT509 carbon fiber track package, C7 ZR1, and 2022 Cadillac CT5 V blackwing.

    • @Pistolita221
      @Pistolita221 Рік тому +12

      @@YusufSayed-px2xy Don't forget the Ford GT, all 3 versions are trading pretty well.

    • @tracewaybos
      @tracewaybos Рік тому +12

      Nope - that honor still belongs to the Plymouth Voyager with wood grain trim.

    • @norwegianblue2017
      @norwegianblue2017 Рік тому +1

      Now remember that this will be the next to slowest C8 Corvette of the five trims that will eventually be made available. Just imagine this car with twin turbos around 1000hp, AWD, hybrid and more carbon fiber.

    • @MrRoyck10
      @MrRoyck10 Рік тому +3

      @akhoustonyou listed all the American barges 😂

  • @danziger69
    @danziger69 Рік тому +8

    The Vette is better looking, sounds better even with the hokey Euro exhaust, performs just as well, is way more livable and half the price. You can keep the Porsche...

  • @user-dibribhsvj36d
    @user-dibribhsvj36d Рік тому +8

    Isnt GT3RS almost twice expensive than Z06? Actual cost not MSRP.

    • @Pistolita221
      @Pistolita221 Рік тому +2

      Yes, literally 2x the price, I think you can max out with options close to 400k before dealer markup, while the vette never even touches 190k before dealer mark up. Base z06 is 120kish, base GT3RS is 299,999.99.

  • @saltyfloridaman7163
    @saltyfloridaman7163 Рік тому +18

    Claims Porsche has the best engine, *forgets the Z06 has the worlds most powerful and most responsive naturally aspirated V8*

    • @Bimmer_Bill
      @Bimmer_Bill 10 місяців тому +2

      Lol they have to a qualify that as “v8”. No Supercar manufacturer makes a na v8 anymore and no the corvette does not have the highest horsepower per liter of any NA production engine,,, not close

    • @WindyCity1992
      @WindyCity1992 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@wethomas3
      Clearly said V8.
      Thats the record.
      Dont be biased

    • @Bimmer_Bill
      @Bimmer_Bill 10 місяців тому +1

      @@WindyCity1992 my point is it’s hardly a record. Not one high end car manufacturer makes a NA v8. Not Porsche, not Ferrari, not Lamborghini, not bmw, not Audi, not Mercedes. The only ones are toyota, Dodge, Chevy, and ford. So lol it’s not impressive!

    • @brianhimmelman420
      @brianhimmelman420 10 місяців тому

      hee haw

    • @WindyCity1992
      @WindyCity1992 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@wethomas3
      Doesnt matter who does what
      When it was being done nobody
      Questioned the competition did they??
      Yall aren't good at hiding the bias lol

  • @ricardopralon4763
    @ricardopralon4763 Рік тому +36

    It's very predicable that the much more expensive GT3 RS won the test, but I think it´s typically a conclusion of european biased and unfair test: first because based on price, the Z06 is also cheaper than the ordinary GT3 , the 911 that it should be compared, and in the pure performances the Z06 probably could humiliate both 911 GT3s in the most of numbers. In my opinion this Corvette CR8 Z06 is to European sports cars what the P-51 Mustang was to German fighters in the middle of last World War, a real paradigm breakdown. The P-51 had a american version of English Merlin engine , this Corvette a american copy of of a Ferrari engine. In general this GM's car has a superior engineering based on better fundamentals at a very competitive cost while the 911 is attached in its tradition and historical relevance in the sport cars world to justify its price. The fact that in the track, the Corvette Gt Am version have beaten 911 Gt am (RSR with a central engine) version so easily in the last Le Mans.

    • @jpslayermayor9293
      @jpslayermayor9293 Рік тому +7

      And yet a raced prep version of this very car beat Porsche at Le Mans by a large margin. Euro reviewers twist themselves in knots attempting somehow detract from the car to the point where they contradict each other or test convertible version head to head with its lower spec tires, suspension tune, weight etc. If this exact car were somehow coming from a new Brit marque and priced the same as the old Euros it would be celebrated as a revelation and certainly win the comparison

    • @SmokDiplodoq
      @SmokDiplodoq Рік тому

      I belive this is cynical from the so called press. That is because they seat neck deep in the ass of mighty makers like VAG striving for their ever recurring cars and events and advertising, while they gain nothing from erratic american performance cars presence and market share. @@jpslayermayor9293

    • @Steven-re3id
      @Steven-re3id Рік тому +4

      ​@@jpslayermayor9293the race-prepared version of the 911 crushed the Corvette 5 years in a row

    • @Steven-re3id
      @Steven-re3id Рік тому +3

      It is not so difficult to accept that regardless of the price, the 911 gt3/rs was always superior to the z06 of each generation including this one, and well, the Corvette here in Europe and the rest of the world costs the same or more than a 911 and you talk about the Europeans are biased when literally all their magazines like motor trend or car and driver are completely biased with foreign cars or I remind you of the c7 zr1 beating the 911 gt2 in the vir when the 911 gt2 practically destroys the Corvette on any track in the rest of the world , or comparing the lap of the c8 z06 in the VIR with a professional driver against the lap of the 992 gt3 and an amateur driver, the numbers do not lie and the 911 was always superior and the only excuse they had was the price but now with the Corvette costing the same as a Porsche, they no longer have excuses and if we talk about lemans, the 911 crushed the Corvette in the last 5 years

    • @ricardopralon4763
      @ricardopralon4763 Рік тому +5

      @@Steven-re3id Man you a masterpiece of Porsche fanboy ... The last five GT Am Pro victories in Le Mans before 2023 were 2 from Ferrari, 2 from Aston Martin ( the Brand that won more GT class races in Le Mans in this century) and only 1 from Porsche, and this year Corvette won very easily . By the way the last year that Porsche won (2020) there was no Corvette in the race neither CR8 or CR7 and the car Porsche uses in Le Mans is the RSR , a "especial" 911 with a CENTRAL ENGINE. No that car is not a real 911 with rear engine as RS GT3 or 911 R . Porsche RS GT2 was another model with turbos and it is no more in production and had almost twice the price of GT3 RS... CR8 is not the front engined CR7.... is a totally different car with CENTRAL ENGINE as RSR that Porsche use in competition ( Can you tell me why) . In fact it is a Ferrari copy with more cm3 in the engine. The trick that GT3 RS uses to be slight faster in track is its DRS, but its is only a aero trick copied from F1 that aftermarked tunners can adapt in any car and it can be very dangerous if used in the regular roads.

  • @zTheBigFishz
    @zTheBigFishz Рік тому +7

    This is a ridiculous comparison likely meant to minimize the Vette.

    • @zTheBigFishz
      @zTheBigFishz Рік тому +1

      @ernestkeller186 GT3 vs Z06 is a natural comparo, US spec for both cars. Not the RS with as you mention EU spec.

    • @zTheBigFishz
      @zTheBigFishz Рік тому +2

      @ernestkeller186 I'm agreeing with you...read my post again. GT3 vs Z06 in the US is fair. GT3RS vs Z06 in EU is not fair.

    • @zTheBigFishz
      @zTheBigFishz Рік тому

      @ernestkeller186 no problemo

  • @deek4412
    @deek4412 Рік тому +5

    It was very amusing to see this guy struggle finding weak excuses to place the Porsche ahead of the Corvette....all any sensible person can say is at less than HALF the price...the Corvette is an unbelievable example of American ingenuity...kudos GM! Oh, and one more thing..put both on a race course and see what happens...ha ha ha

    • @unclebob4964
      @unclebob4964 Рік тому

      Put them both on a race course and see what happens ?
      OK…..
      Let’s start with Le Mans…..Porsche has won it more times than ANY OTHER manufacturer on the PLANET !!!
      Chevrolet ISN’T EVEN IN THE TOP 12 !!!
      Ha Ha Ha yourself……BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA………

    • @deek4412
      @deek4412 Рік тому

      Where is Porsche in Indy racing....Chevrolet has won it more than any other manufacturer on the planet...Porsche is no where to be found...can't cut it....ha ha ha ROFLMAO@@unclebob4964

    • @deek4412
      @deek4412 Рік тому

      Yeah lets start with Le Mans...this year 8 Porsches competed against just one C8 Corvette and the Corvette took the checkered flag....8 to 1 still couldn't win...ha ha ha @@unclebob4964

    • @unclebob4964
      @unclebob4964 Рік тому

      @@deek4412 You are kidding, of course ! ? Thought this was about real cars you can buy and drive. Send me a photo of your “Indy” car cruising down Main Street.
      If your really wanting to use such a moronic argument….ok.
      Honda and Ilmor Engineering make ENGINES for identical Indy car chassis. THATS IT.
      And even then, they struggle to run for 4 hours on an 4 turn circuit !
      Porsche runs TWENTY FOUR (24) HOURS on an actual ROAD COURSE !
      ( are you starting to catch on ? )
      In the real world, Porsche has Chevrolet for breakfast……ha ha ha….KMBFAYSF.

  • @nsu300zx
    @nsu300zx Рік тому +27

    With that price difference, you can fix whatever is wrong with the Z06. I prefer the 'vette.

    • @papa_pt
      @papa_pt Рік тому +3

      Also buy a second car lol

  • @KD-cx6yi
    @KD-cx6yi Рік тому +2

    In what world are these two cars cost comparable? I just went on Autotrader and the GT3 RS is going for over $400 grand, and the ZO6 for less than $200K. Not only that, watch Harry's Garage review and you'll get an ASTONISHINGLY differently viewpoint of the GT3 on British roads. Hmmm, I wonder how there could be such a strong disparity in opinions?

  • @Leo_Vasileio
    @Leo_Vasileio Рік тому +15

    British reviewers by default will downplay the flaws of Ferrari and other manufacturers like they don’t exist but when it comes to the Corvette they always point out flaws that they make seem to be complete deal breakers or not good enough. Very bias in my opinion.

    • @Leo_Vasileio
      @Leo_Vasileio Рік тому +4

      @ernestkeller186 British car reviewers are becoming like business class reviewers, never mind all the effort and engineering that it takes to deliver the product because at the end it comes down to how dry the steak was. Absolutely silly

    • @coreyegan6751
      @coreyegan6751 Рік тому +4

      It's literally a Chevy vs a porsche... you don't think the chevy will have a few more flaws and shortcomings 😂

    • @Leo_Vasileio
      @Leo_Vasileio Рік тому +4

      @@coreyegan6751 same could be said about Ferrari and other European brands and all their flaws, crazy thing is that they don’t even bother fixing it or making improvements because of this type of bias and arrogance, but yet British reviewers seem to completely overlook that. No one said that the corvette was perfect but in terms of a sports car that has gotten a complete transformation through quite frankly brilliant engineering in the mist of intense regulations and industry trends, Chevy has done its job on the corvette and delivered with this one here. Let’s call a spade a spade and give credit where it’s rightfully due.

    • @enigmatwist6548
      @enigmatwist6548 Рік тому +2

      He said both cars are “absolutely brilliant” what more praise do you want? I’m sure there are plenty of American reviewers that prefer the Porsche too, none of which is to say that the Corvette isn’t a great car.

    • @anthonydeas2173
      @anthonydeas2173 Рік тому +3

      He's saying what he sees and experienced. Roads here in UK are pretty shitty most of the time and if the Porsche deals with them better than the Corvette that's his experience. If it was an American reviewer driving the same cars on American roads the result may have been different. He said both cars were excellent, but the 911 dealt with our roads better...

  • @_VelociDad
    @_VelociDad Рік тому +18

    The C8Z06 with £90k in the trunk should help make your decision.

  • @bumpinjeep
    @bumpinjeep Рік тому +13

    ATTENTION
    The euro spec Z06 (with the side exhausts) have a significant power and even sound deficit compared to US spec cars. I would recommend driving a US model as you get an entirely different experience.

  • @abcdLeeXY
    @abcdLeeXY Рік тому +6

    Meant for the race track but most will babysit in the garage or drive it to tea parties

  • @MegaChasevideos
    @MegaChasevideos Рік тому +3

    Only reason the Z06 sounds bad is because it has a euro spec exhaust that ruins the sound. The US one is way louder

  • @2020matrix8
    @2020matrix8 Рік тому +2

    First of all that Z06 your driving is inferior to the ones we drive over here lol….Second its obvious you know nothing about Corvettes or Z06’s.
    As for the steering wheel, it is the best thing about
    the interior except for the Competition Seats..
    Second, The button layout is very intuitive and cockpit like and nothing feels cheap. Hopefully you will get your hands on the one made for the US with the center exhaust and the extra horsepower. Seems like the sound has been compromised too accommodate that corner exit exhaust, sad. :(

  • @Marvelous0071
    @Marvelous0071 Рік тому +2

    Where was the Ford GT when people started talking about the greatest car to come out of America and then there is the ACR Viper... The Z06 is not the greatest American car. Its great value in performance

  • @markoon139
    @markoon139 Рік тому +3

    Another European picking a Porsche thats twice as expensive over American. Lost all credibility when you said the flat six was the best engine of the past decade. Swap brand logos and 99% of people are taking the 5.5 liter V8... Come on now.....

    • @CARmagazineTV
      @CARmagazineTV  Рік тому +1

      It’s a very good engine in the Corvette, but the Porsche’s flat six is still superior by a solid margin.

    • @markoon139
      @markoon139 Рік тому +2

      @@CARmagazineTV Less horsepower by a lot and sounds like a sewing machine unless you wind it to 9000.... But I get it. All the European guys have to hate American cars because that's the culture event though there's no reason the flat 6 is objectively "better"

    • @CARmagazineTV
      @CARmagazineTV  Рік тому +1

      It’s all subjective, of course. And Corvette has done a great job with the engine. But for us, and most impartial judges, the Porsche’s engine is superior.

    • @markoon139
      @markoon139 Рік тому +2

      @@CARmagazineTV So slower and less HP and more expensive makes it superior hahaha okay.

    • @gen1c8rs88
      @gen1c8rs88 Рік тому +1

      @@CARmagazineTV I can say that I wished the C8 Z06 coupe with the Z07 package without the carbon fiber wheels had better steering and brake feel, had a fixed roof(reduced weight and aesthetics), seats that hold you in more securely, weigh 1600kg(3520lbs) given it's based on a 70K C8(I would add 10K to the base price for fundamental improvements prior to C8 production), 425kg(937lbs, instead of 734lbs, 1/4 of total weight with additional wieght of driver,etc) of downforce, 60% stiffer suspension instead of 40%, 285/35r19 on 10.5's and 345/30r20 on 13's with 395mm front brake, 5.6L(115mm bore spacing 105mm bore, 80.8mm stroke), 9000rpm limit(GM engineers said a few hundred more rpms) , 700HP(650Nm) and for 180K(130K base price).
      But to the engines sound: so do you prefer the N/A flat-6 sound to the N/A FPC V8 sound or is it the Euro spec Z06 exhaust, even the US spec exhuast as well, is their a OEM N/A FPC V8 in a OEM car that is at least on equal footing with the OEM 992.1 GT3 RS ? Also if the Z06 with Z07 package had a little more engine feel/expression though the chassis would that make the Z06 with the Z07 package more interesting too ? Is a 4/4.2L flat-6 more rewarding on a public road because a 5.5/5.6L V8 with 636 to 700 HP can't be fully used/expressed on public narrow twisty roads ? The Export Z06 has 636HP or 645PS not 670HP/680PS.

  • @mbukukanyau
    @mbukukanyau Рік тому +1

    Always disappointed how European reviewers misunderstand the Corvette. The Z-06 is first and foremost a daily driver. It has all the creature comforts of your E Class. If Chevrolet Corvette were to make a track first, road car second, it would be a Z/28. Not even a ZR1 is a track car first.

  • @davidsean290
    @davidsean290 Рік тому +3

    Look I own a 992 Carrera T but to compare a Z06 to a GT3 RS and glaze over the price differences is ridiculous!

  • @mattfrench884
    @mattfrench884 Рік тому +2

    I’m always surprised when people talk negatively about the steering wheel on the Zeke Zo6 it’s identical to a laFerrari wheel 😮

  • @jerrybyrd6603
    @jerrybyrd6603 Рік тому +7

    They never talk about the HUGE price difference

    • @wilmara24
      @wilmara24 Рік тому +8

      because if they compare any european sports car for the same price the corvette will obliterate it and we can't have that can we *sarcasm. I've always felt like European auto journalists never give American cars a fair shake. This is the best performance car for the money since the nsx

    • @tecumseh4095
      @tecumseh4095 Рік тому

      @@wilmara24Nope

    • @hasangenc2922
      @hasangenc2922 Рік тому +4

      Well, sit in a 911 and sit in a Vette and you'll know where the price difference comes from.

    • @wilmara24
      @wilmara24 Рік тому +2

      @@hasangenc2922 I don’t think you can used the old interior excuse anymore. You can argue that the interior layout is not your favorite but the 3lt package is very nice. What nobody ever talks about is how the corvette sound system absolutely smacks the gt3. Some may say that doesn’t matter but it matters to me when I’m doing long road trips.

    • @Steven-re3id
      @Steven-re3id Рік тому

      well don't expect a Porsche and a Chevy to cost the same, also in the real world the Corvette is too expensive and I have seen that in some places it costs 350k

  • @Bmontepeque11
    @Bmontepeque11 Рік тому +45

    Well, yes, Porsche as we know is just mechanical perfection 🥰 but to be fair the Corvette is amazing for it's price! :)

    • @kleinbottled79
      @kleinbottled79 Рік тому

      Fairly typical of a stock Corvette to be conservative in setup and alignment. I bet once the track guys start tuning these Z06's they will really come alive. (Not to say I'm assuming it will suddenly be better than the RS, I'm not.

    • @juliusten6225
      @juliusten6225 Рік тому +10

      I take the Corvette between the two of them. No question.

    • @minigiant8998
      @minigiant8998 Рік тому +6

      @@juliusten6225 ewww

    • @MrSchn3ll
      @MrSchn3ll Рік тому +5

      Only one of them will be a classic and sold above sticker price potentially for 20+ years. The other is going to be $70k someday and will be modded with Pep Boys junk. Tough call...

    • @papa_pt
      @papa_pt Рік тому

      ​@@MrSchn3llsure thing dummie.
      Yes sir move on, nothing special about this Z06 engine 😂

  • @billshoe22191
    @billshoe22191 Рік тому +9

    Very curious how much sound the Z06 loses due to emission regulation (particulate filter) compared to the US version. Would have loved to hear more of the engine in the video

    • @saltyfloridaman7163
      @saltyfloridaman7163 Рік тому +2

      It loses 40hp, and loses 18db

    • @saltyfloridaman7163
      @saltyfloridaman7163 Рік тому +2

      @robertm.3520 they never care, they just want to give American cars their typical biased bullshit. Bet he failed to mention the fact that the euro spec Z06 also beat the GT3 RS at Magny Cours, a slow tight corner track with short straights designed to challenge braking and mechanical grip while benefitting high downforce cars on 4 turns, with a massive high speed corner that should give the GT3 RS a massive advantage over other cars since it's got nearly 900lbs more downforce than the Z06

    • @j7b890
      @j7b890 Рік тому

      ​@@saltyfloridaman7163magny cours CLUB has nothing to do with the gp track.... its a test circuit for driving classes. And the review was made by the magazine owner who is not a pro driver at all. Maybe the actual Magny Cours track laptimes with Conti the pro driver from the same magazine will follow but as of now those times have zero value. If you would eventually read the web page you would know that the magazine owner and driver by his own admission states he isnt interested in getting the best laptime but just to get a feel for the car. In Italy in Vairano the z06 with cup 2r lost against a standard gt3 and sorry but 4ruote isnt a german magazine.

  • @jmmch3358
    @jmmch3358 Рік тому +4

    Its a very stereotyped review like the ones from Jeremy Clarkson.

  • @BobGrosse
    @BobGrosse Рік тому +7

    Not much of a test to determine a winner? Why not put them both on a track to see what they're really capable of, and you may have a different opinion!

    • @Extra-dg7uv
      @Extra-dg7uv Рік тому

      The GT3 RS was faster around Willow Springs in Hagerty's test.

    • @maciejswiercz9737
      @maciejswiercz9737 10 місяців тому

      I guess if they were comparing bargains the vette would be the winner . They’re comparing apples to oranges!!!

  • @moneyshift8190
    @moneyshift8190 Рік тому +2

    Why compare the z06 to the GT3RS?! The GT4RS would have been a better comparo. Or the GT3.

  • @dallasstang2818
    @dallasstang2818 Рік тому +1

    I keep imagining Mr. Ed everytime this guy talks lol

  • @loansbyderrick
    @loansbyderrick Рік тому +5

    “An outstanding super car that goes way beyond anything that’s come out of the states before”… Second gen Ford GT/ Mkii enters the chat…

  • @shawnhossini3321
    @shawnhossini3321 Рік тому +3

    Lost all credibility when you are nitpicking at the Corvette's turn stalks (they're actually not cheap feeling) and failed to point out the cheap touches on the 911's interior and all its blandness! And the GT3's are jittery over road imperfection while the Corvette's are more refined over the same surfaces. That said, the GT3RS is going to be a touch faster on the track than the Z06 mainly due to all its aero and downforce. Both cars are absolute track beasts! The Corvette goes about it in a more refined way.

    • @CARmagazineTV
      @CARmagazineTV  Рік тому

      We stand by it - the indicator and wiper stalks are shocking! 😬😬

    • @shawnhossini3321
      @shawnhossini3321 Рік тому +2

      @@CARmagazineTV Sure, double down on your exaggeration LOL. Since you're so honest and stand by your words, please point out the cheap touches in the 911. Especially given its price points.

    • @shawnhossini3321
      @shawnhossini3321 Рік тому +2

      @@robertm.3520 Exactly!

    • @hasangenc2922
      @hasangenc2922 Рік тому

      So many triggered Americans here. They never catch the 911 😂

    • @shawnhossini3321
      @shawnhossini3321 Рік тому +1

      @@hasangenc2922 Hahaha, not American nor triggered. I'd say 80% of my cars have been German but I am not some delusional Porsche Fanboy that can't point out the cars flaws.

  • @davlphs
    @davlphs Рік тому +7

    Not one mention of price in this review. Maybe the Corvette is a little more expensive in Europe than the U.S., but I am fairly certain the GT3 is still at least 50,000 more.

    • @bench-squat-deadlift
      @bench-squat-deadlift Рік тому +1

      He mentioned the prices said the gt3rs is 200,000pounds and corvette is 110,000pounds. But you can’t really even touch one for that price at the moment.

    • @ryanjefferson6100
      @ryanjefferson6100 Рік тому

      it was mentioned bud

    • @Nord_Mann
      @Nord_Mann Рік тому

      @ernestkeller186what, do you think he should test an illegal version of the car on UK roads? Apples for apples. This Porsche is also neutered compared to it’s predecessor

    • @Cane1992
      @Cane1992 Рік тому +1

      Here in the States about a $100,000 difference. 😮

  • @zangli4525
    @zangli4525 Рік тому +1

    Z06 should be compared to GT3: they are road cars that can be taken to the tracks on weekends... GT3-RS is a race car that can be driven on the roads, so it's not in the same league, not to mention the huge price for the RS.

  • @mojojojo_BB
    @mojojojo_BB Рік тому +3

    Great job comparing cars that are neither in the same category nor price range! 🙄

  • @nassermohd2317
    @nassermohd2317 Рік тому +3

    wait till zr1 come

  • @schwabit989
    @schwabit989 Рік тому +2

    Price for price, the Corvette is hard to beat.

  • @emj2068
    @emj2068 Рік тому +11

    Vette all day, especially for the price. Thank you Chevy for making other brands step their game up and offer better performance for the money.

  • @razrramon2256
    @razrramon2256 Рік тому +1

    Them toggles on the steering like tryna change traction and brake balance on gran truismo 7 MID LAP And CRASH

  • @cobrajeff96
    @cobrajeff96 Рік тому +3

    Its dangerous to drive on the wrong side of the road.

  • @MitchellPhillips
    @MitchellPhillips Рік тому +2

    I knew what the comments would be before I went to add my own.
    Most bias Z06 video yet. Not anywhere near a fair comparison due to price but the reviewer was also just generally unfair.
    That 5.5 V8 is amazing and hes complaining about it? I havent heard anyother reviewers complain about power delivery our sound. Only this propagandist.
    Guy is out to lunch.

  • @Nord_Mann
    @Nord_Mann Рік тому +2

    Too much for the road? Yes they are. Both. At least the Corvette has a boot and can take the needed overnight luggage for you and your sweetheart.

  • @anasevi9456
    @anasevi9456 Рік тому +2

    I didn't think changing exhausts would have made such a stark degradation to the sound, but that's awful. I was expecting it to not be as good, but not shockingly worse. GM direly need to address this issue for their export cars as with the power being down.

    • @raymonds7492
      @raymonds7492 9 місяців тому

      still sounds better than any turbo 6 though

  • @anotae
    @anotae Рік тому +10

    Gt3 RS? Not fair...

  • @jorgejefferson8251
    @jorgejefferson8251 Рік тому +1

    A fairer comparison would be a regular GT3. A C-8 Corvette ZL1 would be a comparison to the GT3 RS, but Chevy hasn't made it yet.

    • @Pistolita221
      @Pistolita221 Рік тому

      The Zr1 will be a competitor to the Porsche gt3rs and then Corvette is releasing a turbo S competitor with a hybrid system, similar to the holy Trinity of Yore.

  • @redtesta
    @redtesta Рік тому +1

    funny now they pushing the gt3 rs instead of the gt3 now in the comparisons . The noise it makes isn't memorable? First time i have ever heard that vs a Porsche 4.0 which i don't hear many bragging about that.

    • @markw9512
      @markw9512 Рік тому

      Yeah, after they got beaten in all track comparisons against the GT3 , all of a sudden the RS started showing up

  • @EdwinNew
    @EdwinNew Рік тому +3

    Surprise, surprise. The £200,000+ Porsche is better than the £110,000 Corvette. If you spent the price difference on performance upgrades for the Corvette, what would be the result then?

    • @Steven-re3id
      @Steven-re3id Рік тому

      that's ridiculous because it applies to any car, you can buy a cayman gts for £65,000 and with some upgrades easily beat the corvette

    • @EdwinNew
      @EdwinNew Рік тому

      @@Steven-re3id My point exactly.

  • @eckosimmons
    @eckosimmons Рік тому +1

    That man said the Z06 sound is “not memorable” 😂 like he doesn’t know it has basic stingray exhaust.

  • @SRosen95
    @SRosen95 Рік тому +9

    failing to mention that the gt3rs is almost twice the price feels like a slight misstep

    • @slats1987
      @slats1987 Рік тому +1

      It's about the same price after import costs. The base c8 in the UK is going for between $120k-160k, plus everyone knows about the US and it's dealership "markup"

  • @mattfrench884
    @mattfrench884 Рік тому

    Great SCENERIES and great video. I’m not sure what mode your in,but the exhaust sounds like it’s in tour mode. Really quite! I’ve watched about every C8 Z06 video out there. And I’ve owned my own for 3 months now. And it’s way louder in the cockpit then it sounds here. And out side as well. Cheers

  • @JulianZwemer
    @JulianZwemer Рік тому +13

    Porsche all day long 🥰🤗

    • @Cane1992
      @Cane1992 Рік тому +2

      Over $100,000 more and quite similar to the millions of other 911s on the road. No thanks.

    • @philippeleblond9631
      @philippeleblond9631 Рік тому +3

      @@Cane1992 How about your mass pruduction GM wanabe C8? 40000 unit per year, no thanks for a common failed design

    • @philippeleblond9631
      @philippeleblond9631 Рік тому

      @@robertm.3520 Like Chris Harris said, when youre inside the C8, at least you dont see the exterior of the car lolol! They are plenty of bright people who think the C8 is not pretty... Im not fanboy of anything but GM designers where unable to make a pretty mid engine! Take a look at the new Lotus Emira, she look so beautifull ...

    • @philippeleblond9631
      @philippeleblond9631 Рік тому

      @@robertm.3520 Car and driver and Motortrend already told about the weirdo design, this is sad... Huracan 2015 are so beautifull and Aventador( 2012 car ), for a 2020 mid engine car, the Chevrolet is already getting old, sad story...

    • @philippeleblond9631
      @philippeleblond9631 Рік тому

      @@robertm.3520 For your sake, I saw 4 Corvette this morning, 0 Porsche ( including all the Porsche brand )

  • @joetacchino4470
    @joetacchino4470 Рік тому +1

    Why does this Z06 car have corner exit exhausts? OPF’s make it necessary?

  • @jameswillard1
    @jameswillard1 Рік тому +3

    Nice review guys!

    • @CARmagazineTV
      @CARmagazineTV  Рік тому +1

      Thanks!

    • @gen1c8rs88
      @gen1c8rs88 Рік тому +3

      @@CARmagazineTV Should have mentioned that the Z06 in Europe has a less communicative exhaust system, instead of stating the Z06's engine is to blame.

  • @N4CR
    @N4CR Рік тому +2

    Wider tyres track more on the road, like motorbikes, that happens in any car with wide wheels.

  • @beautyisontheinside
    @beautyisontheinside Рік тому +8

    You don’t need a Porsche with racing aero to drive 60mph on a public road.
    It’s ridiculous that this guy thought he would notice a difference in settings at those speeds. He clearly wasn’t even close to the limit

    • @asphalthedgehog6580
      @asphalthedgehog6580 Рік тому +1

      I was driving around in Wales last week, and it's clear: you really do not need more than 100HP in the whole of GB, crowded with more speed cameras than inhabitants.

    • @CARmagazineTV
      @CARmagazineTV  Рік тому +5

      Might be worth rewatching! James said you won’t notice the difference at roads speeds…

    • @aab350z
      @aab350z Рік тому +1

      @@asphalthedgehog6580 It's about the badge man! It's about looking cool! Lmao.

  • @Ghanshyam00000
    @Ghanshyam00000 Рік тому +1

    Chevrolet Corvette z06 and porch 911 gt3 these both cars are beautiful

  • @Doncan0823
    @Doncan0823 Рік тому +2

    A track oriented car vs a street oriented car. Mass produced vs limited. Huge price difference. Give me the Corvette and the extra money to spend.

    • @philippeleblond9631
      @philippeleblond9631 Рік тому +2

      Give me the Porsche to get more exclusive and more prestigious car than a GM mass produced ugly mid engine design...

    • @markw9512
      @markw9512 Рік тому +1

      @@philippeleblond9631We get it, you’re into badges even if it means coming in 2nd at the track. Enjoy!

    • @philippeleblond9631
      @philippeleblond9631 Рік тому

      @@markw9512 Go live your dream with your hideous Chevrolet!

    • @philippeleblond9631
      @philippeleblond9631 Рік тому +2

      @@markw9512 less than one second in difference, we have an emotional Corvette lover here( you )! I gream about a 911 GT3, I will never dream about a fail design Chevrolet Wannabe Ferrari!

    • @markw9512
      @markw9512 Рік тому +1

      @@philippeleblond9631 more than one second difference, snowflake: here are results versus the GT3:
      Car & Driver Lightning Lap 2023:
      Lamborghini Huracan Tecnica: 2:43.9
      Porsche GT4RS: 2:40.5
      Corvette Z06: 2:38.6
      From past few Lightning Laps, same track:
      2022 Porsche GT3: 2:40.6
      2019 Porsche GT3RS: 2:41.6
      2021 Porsche Turbo S: 2:42.5
      The six fastest cars from all of Car & Driver’s Lightning Lap comparisons:
      2019 McLaren Senna: 2:34.9
      2021 Mercedes AMG-GT Black Series: 2:37.0
      2018 Porsche GT2RS Weissach: 2:37.8
      2021 McLaren 765LT: 2:38.4
      2023 Corvette Z06: 2:38.6
      2019 Corvette ZR1: 2:39.5
      Road & Track Performance Car of the Year, 2023:
      Lamborghini Huracan Tecnica: 1:23.1
      Porsche GT4RS: 1:22.7
      Corvette Z06: 1:20.6
      Motor Sport’s lap time of C8 Z06 w/Z07, with GT3 and other cars’ time shown at end:
      ua-cam.com/video/Q5aAHU4teiU/v-deo.html
      Times:
      Z06: 1:15.23
      GT3 RS, 991.2: 1:15.91
      GT3 RS, 992: 1:15.96
      Savagegeese same day/same driver/same track comparison of Z06 w/Z07 vs GT3. Corvette and GT3 manufacturer teams on hand making sure both vehicles’ setups were optimal:
      ua-cam.com/video/zUqDKZEf_FA/v-deo.html
      Times:
      Z06: 1:27.240
      GT3: 1:27.329
      Tight, short track. Pro driver said GT3 would definitely lose advantage on longer tracks and Z06’s lead would grow on them.
      Hagerty, Jason Carissa with Randy Pobst driving. Willow Springs, high speed track with 992 GT3 RS’s active aero winning the day here, near freezing track temps.
      ua-cam.com/video/mCQlLa36-0c/v-deo.html
      Times:
      ZO6: 1:24.3
      GT3 RS: 1:24.9

  • @bobhenry6159
    @bobhenry6159 Рік тому +3

    So, a 200K pound car beats one that is 90K pounds cheaper. Gee, what a revelation. lol
    European reviewers always do this instead of comparing price to price. Perhaps Porsche sponsored this nonsense?

    • @markw9512
      @markw9512 Рік тому +4

      It is interesting how, after the Z06 managed to plaster the normal GT3 in several track comparisons, the RS started showing up in its place. 😂

    • @j7b890
      @j7b890 Рік тому

      ​@@markw9512only in us... for example in vairano the z06 with cup 2rs lost against the gt3. Look at the video and tell me if the z06 was driven slowly... And no it wasnt tested by a german magazine but by 4ruote which is not pro german.

    • @markw9512
      @markw9512 Рік тому

      ​@@j7b890 Not only in US, as though that makes a difference...gaslight much?
      Motorsport Magazine (chart at end of vid shown w/times):
      ua-cam.com/video/Q5aAHU4teiU/v-deo.html
      McLaren Senna 1'14"93 (TrofeoR)
      C8 Z06 (Z07) 1'15"23 (Cup 2R)
      991.2 GT2 RS 1'15"91 (Cup 2R)
      992 GT3 RS 1'15"96 (Cup 2R)
      Ferrari 488 Pista 1'16"06 (Cup 2R)
      From fastest laps site:
      Val de Vienne lap times
      Rank Vehicle Time
      1 C8 Z06 (Z07) 1.39.07 (ua-cam.com/video/8n0bZc56CnU/v-deo.html)
      2 992 GT3 RS 1.41.60
      3 992 GT3 1.42.80
      4 M4 CSL 1.43.28
      5 GT4 RS 1.44.65
      6 992 GTS 1.46.70
      From fastest laps site:
      EuroSpeedway Lausitz:
      Rank Vehicle Time
      1 AMG GT BS 1:25.23
      2 991.2 GT2 RS 1:25.91
      3 C8 Z06 (Z07) 1:27.41
      4 Huracan STO 1:27.94
      5 Aventador SVJ 1:28.05
      ....
      12 992 Turbo S 1:29.95
      13 991.2 GT3 RS 1:30.60
      C8 Z06 sets production car record
      at Canada's Canadian Tire Motorsport Park:
      ua-cam.com/video/cBZG1ddZFf8/v-deo.html

    • @gen1c8rs88
      @gen1c8rs88 Рік тому +1

      @@j7b890 Was the C8 Z06 US spec, a coupe, with the Z07 package and with carbon fiber wheels ?

    • @j7b890
      @j7b890 Рік тому

      @@gen1c8rs88 z07 package euro spec so 645 hp but it was temp wise a perfect day it had cup 2rs and it was inline with the sto but a full second slower than the gt3. Also the driver is a pro.

  • @matl7560
    @matl7560 Рік тому +2

    Sir, this isn’t a fair comparison! Seriously the GT3 RS is my favorite car of all time and with mark-up they go for $490 to $550k (only 150 being made) then compare it to a vette. You just hate America and wanna get clicks. I think maybe come on over the pond you’d be hard pressed to get a nice welcome with that attitude.

  • @KP-xi4bj
    @KP-xi4bj Рік тому +5

    The Corvette equivalent of the GT3 RS is the C8.R, not the Z06.

    • @adamb3129
      @adamb3129 Рік тому

      The C8.R is not a production/road car, and also would be much, much faster than both a Z06 or GT3RS

    • @KP-xi4bj
      @KP-xi4bj Рік тому +5

      @@adamb3129 But GT3 RS is a race car for the streets. Z06 is not a race car. A proper comparison to the Z06 would be the regular GT3.

    • @adamb3129
      @adamb3129 Рік тому

      @@KP-xi4bj The GT3RS is still not comparable at all to a C8.R, which is an actual racecar.

    • @Pistolita221
      @Pistolita221 Рік тому

      It's comparable to the z8 ZR1 that's coming out in the near future, the Z06 competes with the GT3 not the GT3RS. Porsche doesn't even categorize them together.

    • @KP-xi4bj
      @KP-xi4bj Рік тому +3

      @@adamb3129 You're missing the point. GT3 RS is not comparable to a Z06.

  • @chrlda6857
    @chrlda6857 Рік тому +1

    Lol Americans complaining
    It's not oranges and apples
    Is full spec vs full spec
    It's not Porsche fault that the Z0Y uses cheaper materials

  • @dash-ryan
    @dash-ryan Рік тому +4

    Some education:
    GT3 Touring = Z06
    GT3 = Z06+Z07 Performance Pack
    GT3RS = ZR1 (coming soon)
    So, this review had the cards stacked against the Corvette right from the start.

  • @Brooks22n
    @Brooks22n Рік тому +2

    Jeez Are those roads NARROW ENOUGH 😂

    • @N4CR
      @N4CR Рік тому

      Normal in small, hilly and rural countries like this.

  • @tomhatch2011
    @tomhatch2011 Рік тому +16

    The Corvette's design is looking good!

    • @philippeleblond9631
      @philippeleblond9631 Рік тому +4

      No!

    • @philippeleblond9631
      @philippeleblond9631 Рік тому +1

      @@robertm.3520 I don't care about Porsche, the C8 is not pretty, that's it that's all! The C8 is like an ugly fat girl ( 3700-3800lbs for a mid engine in 2020 is unacceptable ) who is good in bed!

    • @philippeleblond9631
      @philippeleblond9631 Рік тому

      @@robertm.3520 Do you know Shmee? Again he told about the new Lotus Emira that this car look like a 250K pounds for a 80K pounds car, we will never hear that for the Corvette C8...

    • @philippeleblond9631
      @philippeleblond9631 Рік тому +1

      @@robertm.3520 Corvette fanboys and delusional owners doesn't know anymore what is a beautifull car ( give me a C7 or C6 please )!

    • @philippeleblond9631
      @philippeleblond9631 Рік тому

      @@robertm.3520 C6Z06 for life! ( LS7 )

  • @mellowsid1928
    @mellowsid1928 Рік тому +1

    This Z06 doesn't have the actual center exit US exhaust. THAT exhaust sounds like it was meant for the gods. THIS exhaust sounds like it belongs in the garbage. Watch other center exhaust Z06 videos and judge those for sound. Also, if this Z06 was under 500 miles it was probably in break in mode which makes it limited and slow. To me it never sounds like he gets it up past 6k rpm. After 500 miles it has a very linear power curve where as most flat plane crank engines make all their torque up high in the rpm range. He also should have talked about the driving modes. If he didn't have the Z06 in track mode then it also isn't a fair comparison. But still, the GT3 still would beat the Z06 on the track most of the time but it is pretty much only because of the weight difference, slightly stiffer suspension, and more down force. The Z06 would probably only win the 0-60mph race. But he is correct that as a street car the Z06 wins because it has way better ride height, more comfortable and adjustable/adapting magnetic suspension, way more features, a more plush interior, and better seats. It is probably a good idea to swap out those carbon wheels for steel on the street though. It is also hard not justify getting a Z06 because it is at least 50k less depending where you are in the world. If you wanted to spec a GT3 with some of the same features the Z06 has as standard it would add so much more money. Porsche likes to make options cost 3 to 4 times as much as Chevrolet.

  • @rcrr
    @rcrr Рік тому +4

    With ADM, the Porsche costs as much as 3 or 4 of those Corvettes

  • @Kirkorr123
    @Kirkorr123 10 місяців тому +1

    Has this guy ever heard of the Ford GT. I lost respect for him when he said that the US had never made a car like the zo6 before.

  • @yo32ride
    @yo32ride Рік тому +4

    0 to 100mph in 10.6😂😂 the gt3 is around 7 to 100 mph

    • @dr69296
      @dr69296 Рік тому +3

      Z06/z07 package is 6.0 to 100 with out the z07 package is quicker. The z06 is a 10.30 to 10.50 1/4 at 132 mph. 10.6 to 100 is absolutely not true. That z06 will destroy the aGT3 in a straight line.

    • @yo32ride
      @yo32ride Рік тому

      @@robertm.3520 why am I a clown

    • @yo32ride
      @yo32ride Рік тому

      The figures were for the porsche the road tester said the gt3 does 0.100 in 10.6 hence the 🤣🤣

    • @yo32ride
      @yo32ride Рік тому

      Both great cars but I'd prefer a gt2 rs over the gt3 rs 👍

  • @cylentone
    @cylentone Рік тому +2

    The GT3 RS is a pure track car, the Z06 an all-rounder. Nice surrounding to review them both, but impossible to compare. Maybe a "normal" GT3 would have been the better choice in characteristics, not necessarily price-wise. If the focus is on winding country roads, maybe even the GT3 Touring.

    • @billymays7210
      @billymays7210 Рік тому

      Well said. Unlike most of the fanboyz commenting from both sides.

    • @billymays7210
      @billymays7210 10 місяців тому

      @@brianhimmelman420 AWD turbo with a back seat… you’re gonna get a TON of views with that video 😂

    • @billymays7210
      @billymays7210 10 місяців тому

      @@brianhimmelman420 Um, I didn’t…. I was agreeing with the OP, ya know, the one you replied to? 😂 And that’s the best Chevy could do with their steering and an NA motor… the ZR1 will be faster, but will probably be even more “numb” once they bolt on the turbos… that’s why people pay more $ for a Porsche, the way it feels vs the raw numbers.
      Are you being sarcastic comparing a turbo AWD sporty GT with a back seat to an NA 2 seat 2WD sports car “tuned for the track”?

  • @spaceweasel
    @spaceweasel 9 місяців тому +3

    Snotty Euros!

  • @nahum1986
    @nahum1986 2 місяці тому +1

    For the Price is unbattable, even with Z07 carbon fiber package (common carbon wheels, and all that stuff for that price?!) for me a better comparison is more like between GTR r35 Nismo, but isn't even close

  • @VK6AB-
    @VK6AB- Рік тому +3

    This is a tricky one, as someone who owns a 991.2 GT3 RS, the new 992 GT3 and 992 GT3 RS didn't do it for me - the 991.2 GT3 RS is so good its quicker than the 992 GT3 and only marginally slower round a track than the 992 GT3 RS (so much so it comes down to the driver and type of tires each car is wearing - moreover, Randy Pobst was quicker round Big Willow in a 991.2 GT3 RS than in a 992 GT3 RS - thats how real world close they are). The engine and gear box are all variants of that found in the 991.2 GT3 and to be frank on public roads there isn't much to choose between the 991.2 GT3, 991.2 GT3 RS, 992 GT3, 992 GT3 RS or 718 GT4 RS. On to the Corvette, what GM did here with the C8 06-07 is remarkable, a credit to them for taking the risk and building it - no matter what the critics say its a stupendous car at an amazing price point in the US. Credit where credit is due. Would I take it over my 991.2 GT3 RS, no, but I fully acknowledge its capability and breadth of use. Now heres a thought, you can get more enjoyment out of a 3.4L NA 981 GTS with 340HP (and PTV) on B and C roads than you can with a super car or GT3 RS.

  • @corystansbury
    @corystansbury Рік тому +1

    Those GPFs sure do suck all the life (and 40 HP) from the Z06. Very sad :(

  • @izuaff04
    @izuaff04 Рік тому +8

    corvette all day...

  • @tedzehnder961
    @tedzehnder961 2 місяці тому

    In the USA we might drive more hours per trip so the corvette makes for a more tolerable and enjoyable experience.If you want to increase your adrenaline level in short order it`ll do that too. The Corvette Z06 has a split personality that some people like.

  • @andresmattos7541
    @andresmattos7541 Рік тому +5

    DECENTLY PRICED VS STUPIDLY OVERPRICED.

  • @amac8487
    @amac8487 Рік тому +2

    I’m pretty sure Ford bought the Ferrari engine and benchmarked the GT350s Voodoo engine; which is also a flat plane crank

  • @Doguelife
    @Doguelife Рік тому

    ⁠I said this on another comment. These ppl who say it’s priced for the everyday man I’m sure is true..in the USA. In the uk the news is the z06 is coming with RHD to our shores and price tag around £130-£140,000. What the yanks need to understand is we can get a Ferrari 458..or 488GTB or a Lamborghini aventador lp700. A Porsche gt3 991. For £150,000 you can get a 992 turbo s. Just take a look on uk autotrader. Not to mention over here a mclaren 720s are going for as low as £130k! I do like the corvette thou. Looks awesome I’m a fan hands down well done Chevy 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @edwardclark2653
    @edwardclark2653 Рік тому +3

    Both of these race cars are extraordinary! The engineering edge definitely goes to the Porsche, but the cost differential justifies it. When I viewed Harris skillfully drive this, Porsche. I craved to manually shift during his driving exhibition!

    • @markw9512
      @markw9512 Рік тому

      He just drove a C8Z51 for the first time and loved it, said its handling was on a par with Porsche.

    • @haraldaeschbach4167
      @haraldaeschbach4167 8 місяців тому

      Z ist besser!

  • @AngelLopez-hc2df
    @AngelLopez-hc2df Рік тому +2

    LT 6 in a Camaro would be America's 250 GTO.
    ❤ Toyota Corolla GR❤

  • @kinosgarage
    @kinosgarage Рік тому +3

    Corvette fans will call the Z06 a “supercar killer” until it’s matched with a proper super car.
    I’d suggest editing the title: “GT3RS vs Z06”
    Also, let’s stop comparing GM’s sports car to real track focused cars like the RS.

    • @iluvcakes19
      @iluvcakes19 Рік тому +3

      So the normal GT3 is a fraud?

    • @kinosgarage
      @kinosgarage Рік тому +1

      @@iluvcakes19 is this ALL you gathered from my comment? It is not a fraud, though it’s not as mighty and capable as the RS. Both GT cars, when not driven to 10/10 or fully tracked, aren’t really that quick on the street. The Z06 (Z07 package) should be able to overtake the GT3.

    • @iluvcakes19
      @iluvcakes19 Рік тому +3

      @@kinosgarage that's the level the Z06 competes at (GT3). It's not even billed as a full on, out and out, sports cars like the RS is. It's a high level, highly trackable GT car-- and yes, it's a supercar.

    • @N4CR
      @N4CR Рік тому +1

      @@kinosgarage Z06 will get it on the straights and maybe lower speed corners, on exit too with the weight balance.

    • @kinosgarage
      @kinosgarage Рік тому

      @@N4CR I take it you've owned and driven both cars?

  • @TheJPHarvey
    @TheJPHarvey Рік тому +1

    6:33 who on earth thought that camera sequence through? looks awful

  • @JulianZwemer
    @JulianZwemer Рік тому +3

    Porsche = Perfection

  • @garynichols9965
    @garynichols9965 Рік тому

    What kind of Z06 has exhaust pipes on each side and not on the center

  • @Howdy762
    @Howdy762 Рік тому +1

    (UGH CAPS IM NOT FIXING)
    YOU SAY THE ENGINE DOESNT SOUND GOOD BUT DONT MENTION THAT THE eURO SPEC HAS OUTBOARD QUAD EXHAUST THATS NOT ANYWHERE NEAR AS GOOD AS THE us SPEC QUAD CENTER EXHAUST.