The weight delta seems bonkers. 600 pounds is a *huge* amount to cart around with you everyday. Let's be real: 99.9% of owners will never track the car so why would you want to move all that extra weight every time to accelerate, change direction, or brake?
I KNEW in my bones Thomas was going to fall in love with the last gen GTs. I wondered why it never got its own video, but he did admit he was sleeping on how good it was. Now I just need him to drive the GTc, GTr, and the GT Black Series in probably an Extra TH video. PLEASE!
He did say he isn't interested in those variants though, likely because it no longer becomes a good value proposition. That being said, in Australia, the old GT is still holding alot of value at over USD$120k for a low mileage example, and for a similar mileage GTR for around $40k more.
@@jlgroovetek The problem is: are you really doing the first generation of AMG GT justice if you don't cover the more performance-oriented versions of the car? This is especially the case for a car review UA-cam channel where the content skews heavily in favor of performance cars. The GT S, GT R, and GT Black Series all drive quite differently than the base model, as you would expect. It would therefore make sense to drive those models as well, so you have a clear picture of the entire lineup.
@@CaseyCollier while all faster none of those ever achieved the balance the base model did. When the original gts came out it blew everyone away. It won mt's 2015 best drivers car beating out stuff like the 981 gt4 for all the reasons Thomas explainrd. Mercedes introduced rear steer and many suspension changes on the later higher performance models. While they added performance it gave the car a disconnected feeling as the rear steer always made the rear feel like it had compliance. The car lost its amazing immediately trustworthy balance.
@@memememine1 I'm not sure that's entirely true. While the steering feel may have been lost to some degree in the later models, can you really say with 100% certainty that the GT S, GT R, and GT Black Series aren't generally well-balanced cars that give the driver confidence when throwing them into a corner? Given that I believe they are, I would have to disagree with your characterization, there. Ultimately, I think if Thomas drove those three models, he'd likely have a blast in them. Sure, having a pure experience in the original base model GT is great, and I'm not trying to diminish that experience at all. What I am saying, though, is that if you want to truly understand the capabilities of the GT platform as a whole, you'll need to drive the higher performance models. It's the same for any performance-oriented car. As a reviewer, you can't truly grasp all the intricacies and capabilities of the 911 platform without driving the higher performance models in the lineup either.
Thomas KILLED this episode. He's so genuine and amped when he really loves a car. His driving review was pure passion. I can't wait for him to get a hold of the Black Series, it will be a modern Viper ACR video (their best video, yet IMO)
You guys in America don't know how lucky you are to be able to drive without front license plates. The car looks so much nicer without them. I work for Mercedes in Stuttgart. As an employee, I can say that we are very proud of our product. But I also understand what you mean by the change in philosophy. Don't forget that the direct competitor is the Porsche 911. I guess that's why it was important to enable a good lap time. Greetings from Stuttgart. The automobile heart of Germany.
To sum it up, these are some bullet points on the new AMG GT compared to its predecessor: - They added 350 Kg (770lb), in the sports car world that's an absurd amount of added weight - They ditched the transaxle design - They ditched the dry sump system - They ditched the front-mid engine layout - They ditched hydraulic steering - They made it AWD - Oh, it now has a big iPad center screen, yay! I guess its now truer to its Gran Turismo name tag but still. It's wrong on so many levels...
@@jessicalacasse6205 even though I own a car with the 6.2L I only partly agree with you. Yes, the 6.2 is the pinnacle of AMG engines, but considering AMG had no choice bud abide by strict emission laws the 4.0 they came up with is pretty damn fantastic. It‘s very tunable and works extremely well in the GT. But yeah, SLS is of course still my dream car 😁
@@defnotatroll In this case they‘re catering to their buyers just fine with the SL don‘t they? Also, the first GT was very successful. I don‘t really understand the reasoning behind it… 🤷♂️
The best AMG GT63 review on the internet, hands down! Finally, someone mentioned how much better the old GT is compared to the new GT in terms of performance. However, it would be a much better comparison if they used the GT R versus the GT63. Both have the same turbo size, rear-wheel steering, and push 577hp. Their MSRPs are the same as well.
I have a '16 GTS (same color!) that I daily drive. After owning everything from a Porsche GT4 to a GT350 to Corvettes and endless modified vehicles, it's probably my favorite. Absolute steal for the price.
I had to stop the video at that exact point and come comment but I see you already did 😂😂😂 He just casually threw that in there and kept talking like nothing happened 😂😂😂
There's a guy near me selling an '88 SL500 in red for ~$8k and I'm so so tempted. Such a gorgeous, timeless, special looking car. Looks like it rolled out of a movie.
@@jody024 not necessarily, they go for about $7-14k in my area. It needs a fresh convertible top tho, so I guess that would be about $2k earmarked right there.
I got home tired from work, quickly made myself something to eat, sat down, and found a cool video to watch while eating, and then you played that sound at 0:31
11:10 Look at the distance between front door end and the front tires on the old model. This ridiculously long front is what gives it that road presence and super car appeal. The new one has way too normal proportions in my eyes.
Sorry to say this but BAN theater forever. No high performance vehicle should ever have fake sound. Ever. Period. Its completely embarrassing to anyone who buys these cars.
I personaly disagree, for me the looks are the only good thing about the new GT. It's a dumb car with a lot of the things they did with it, but i love the look and the new interior (maybe not in red). But hey, looks are really subjective, so nothing wrong with disagreement here.
Agree, the older car looks better and more of a sport car than the new one. I’ll keep saying it, I just don’t like those new chrome wagon wheel air vents on Mercedes, I think they’re so ugly!
As a former AMG GTS owner, I definitely feel a profound sense of sadness about the direction Mercedes has decided to go with their entire lineup of vehicles. Too digital - Mercedes now collects data on you (see Mozilla's privacy report) data that can influence the price of your insurance. Every car in the lineup has too many tech gimmicks, like expensive screens and haptic buttons that nobody likes. They're subjectively less beautiful, lines softened that otherwise defined AMG's muscle. Call me old fashioned if you'd like, but there's a beauty in analog gauges and a screen-less driving experience. Love you Mercedes, but we're over for now. xoxo
I'm with you. People say my Audi interior is outdated, but that's just fine with me. I'll take my analog buttons. Even the little time I use my MMI I have to take my eyes off the road. The new cars are just one big iPad now.
@@Fabulousprofound168 Zero mechanical problems during my GTS ownership experience (2017 - 2023). One recall for the carbon fibre driveshaft. Maintenance was expensive but not obscene like a Lambo or Aston. The retraction mechanism on the cupholder cover is notoriously brittle and it was $2K to replace it.
In 20 years, which would you prefer? IMO, a rear wheel drive muscle car that can still go around a corner is going to be more desirable than a tech-heavy interior that won't age that well. And the old car looks like pure sex. The new one? Still good looking but less distinctive. I'll take the old GT any day of the week.
The AMG-GT was so beautifully designed, it didn't even matter that much it no longer had the 6.2 V8 like the legendary SLS. I think the new one with it's 4-seater coupé design is straying away from what the first AMG-GT was. Also: who at AMG thought it was a good idea to add that launch-control sound?
Just got 16 gts a couple months ago and it’s hard to beat what it has to offer at the current price range. Not to mention you get can so much more power out of it with a tune, love the car 🙌
I have one as well. And with a basic tune from Renntech, you are at just over 600hp. Which most likely will make it at least as quick as the current model. Oh. And I bought and installed a new larger screen. It looks more modern, is touchscreen, has wireless android auto and CarPlay. So it brings you close to what current cars have in regards to the infotainment features.
@@brooklynnewyork5255Which screen did you get? And did you lose any options? I picked up a 2017 GT S yesterday, with Dynamic Plus, CCB, Aerodynamics pack, Night pack, etc 😊 Absolutely awesome car! But it needs wireless Android Auto...
@@brooklynnewyork5255 Hey what screen did you get? I have 2016 GTS been wanting to upgrade the screen other than infotainment the interior of the car is on par if not better designed that newer 2020 plus cars
Drove the AMG GTR through the mountain roads of Colorado and it was glorious. Blows away Ferraris, Lambos, Aston, all of them in handling with the rear wheel steering. It's truly just that or a 911 in terms of handling
I was able to drive the old AMG GT-C in 2023 and the new AMG GT Coupé 63 two weeks ago, both during 3 day trips in the Alps. Wasn’t expecting the new one to feel that agile compared to the old one. Both are really fun cars, new one is way to expensive, but more usable as a daily with kids on the backseats.
@@kamilsomczewski209I don't like carwow. The presenter is most times really "populist". He sometimes makes his presentations unnecessarily political. And not even good so. He sometimes tries to be funny but is in my eyes cringe. But I understand if you like him, mostly he's okay. I will stick to this channel
@@thomprd nah, he didn't mean it that way. It was just another argument because for him the new version feels too heavy and the handling isn't as good, so it's less of a sports car than the old one.
@@thomprd you're missing the point. The body of 911 is more spacious than of Mercedes due to its ridiculously long bonnet. Therefore, there is not much space to fit the rear seat row. 1st gen was strictly a 2-seater because of that and the 2nd gen should've been a strict 2-seater as well.
I remember when the 1st gen AMG GT came out I said that was the only Mercedes I'd craved, and it's cool that that still holds true today. The Aventador still beats in in terms of sheer theatrics and heart stopping looks, but that AMG is a nervously close second. It's so unlike anything else Mercedes makes and yet it has their DNA through and through. I love whatever mad genius concocted the concept and I love the brand even more for letting the lunatic actually build it.
The GTR Pro was the track focused and limited edition. The regular GTR was just the most powerful in the general line-up, as is this with less powerful versions available. But sure, in terms of price, they're likely way closer to each other. It still would've been interesting to see how they compare sharing the power output, but with a very different philosophy.
Or just get a M4 competition. Less than half the price, less 1000lbs, and horsepower is essentially the same so your acceleration and handling will be better.
The criticisms of the new GT are interesting: It doesn’t have buttons (remember when phones had buttons? It was the 90’s) It’s AWD and purists love RWD. Except on a 911. I like the old one, and it’s cheaper (and older) I like my half the price M4/Jag/Lexus which is better than this car that I have not driven. It’s not as fast in the quarter mile as a stripped down sports car like the Vette. It’s for golf (the people buying this don’t golf. Hate to tell you, this is designed for gen X and gen X despises golf) The Vantage is better (if slower and way more expensive) If/when the screen breaks (whoever heard of a broken screen in a Mercedes?) you can’t control the climate. Well other than ‘Hey Mercedes, I’m cold’ Mostly they come down to ‘I don’t have one, so you shouldn’t either’. And yet, when you drive one, even the 55 which is mostly what is available for test drives, it’s thrilling in the real world. It growls and spits in the way that every flat 6 doesn’t. It does flatter you in the way that a rwd ‘purist’ school sports car doesn’t (I had a Z4M that when you turned a corner at speed you either needed new underwear or saw a tree then hit it. Sideways). It flatters but doesn’t take control the way a 911 does, it’s brutal not clinical. When you know MBUX the controls are deep and complex, but not frustrating the way BMW or AM are. So if you want a daily driver that is also slightly crazy on the way to Starbucks. A GT that you can use for a long weekend getaway. That growls at you like a junk yard dog that knows you, but may rip your arm off anyway. A drive that is beautiful from every angle when you are getting in and out of it (why are BMW so ugly these days?). A cockpit that is just a nice place to be. Something that eats the miles comfortably and is still quick off the line and in a lap time? Something that isn’t the obvious yet basic 911 every other bald middle aged guy round here drives. That’s what I wanted. And that’s why this is the car for me. And the 63, compared to the 55, is just more. More of all of it.
The older I get, the more I appreciate front-engine design and usability. My DD for the last three years has been a C7 Z06 Corvette. While it is extremely usable due to massive trunk space, it is still very inconvenient. Having to take certain routes or avoid locations that cause me to scrape my nose is exhausting. After DDing this car for years, I finally just added a Mazda CX-70 to my garage, and it's making me dislike my Z06 more and more every time I drive it. Performance-wise, absolutely no question. The Z06 is a freaking monster. I even went for the Turbo S model of the CX-70 to keep some of that sporty feel. But it doesn't compare to the raw, on-the-bull-for-8-seconds feeling of flooring the Z06. But that level of inconvenience surely cannot overcome the inconvenience of higher performance, mid-engine supercars. More and more, I'm learning that cars like Lambos, Ferraris, etc. are horrible daily drivers. I'd honestly rather have a ~$80K luxury-performance sedan or SUV over a LaFerrari. My dream garage ATM would have to be a C6 ZR1, an SLS AMG (love the AMG GT, but SLS is timeless), a Bentley Bentayga, and a Ford Raptor. Hypercars are cool to see and ridiculous to experience in a track setting. But real world? Not usable.
I don't need two more seats.. my kids are grown. That carbon fiber bar could have been use to complete the half carbon bumper. The end of this video was hilarious!!! SO True!
I have had 3 cx5s for my wife. An 18 a 21 and a 24 All perfect. No issues ever. None ever driven past 80k, though. We recently added a cx30, and it had the same kind of rough drive in the first few gears as you describe in the 70. The shifting was kind of rough compared to the cx5. And that is weird because the 30 and the cx5 have the same eng and Trans. But after 1500k miles, the cx30 is shifting normal now.
Peak German cars with style and performance were from 2008-2016 prove me wrong that was the sweet spot the only German brand that is still peak is Porsche btw that new Mercedes is ugly but the older one is iconic I remember driving it in Forza
@@marcelk3847 also costs twice as much and is unobtainable unless you already own a dozen of their cars, also the gt3rs is just a track toy at best and an investment for rich people at worst
@@DANGERZOMED it is not twice as much. And that's the old bac mono. They haven't tested the current one. The 24 mono is about the same price as the gt3 rs.
As always this was a great video and overall car review, kept me glued to my screen the whole time. Can’t help but notice improvements in things like cinematography and the way some of the shots are filmed, feels like a high production tv show or movie at times.
Honestly though. This car has an identity crisis, it's filling the gap of something like Continental GT; a fast luxury car, rather than pure bred racecar adapted for the road of OG GT.
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The new one has nothing to do with being an AMG GT. I hate this strategy Mercedes is doing. It's actually the successor to the SL and the GT and therefor combining them.
@@damilolaakanni Allow me to clarify his comment The new GT is basically a hard top version of the AMG SL
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@@damilolaakanni Yeah I fucked up. It's on the same platform is what I meant. It kind of literally is one with a roof. But in short. The new one is not worthy of being the successor to the GT.
Great video, as always, but wanted to give a shout-out to whoever your sound guy is... the background music during the drives was very will done! Thx Throttle House!
Really liked the camera angle you used in the lap time segment. Being able to see the track, you, and the way the car is moving around is perfect. Please make that the default view.
Had the pleasure of driving the AMG GT-S on track for a couple of laps and man…what an amazing chassis. The R8 was by benchmark so far but the behaviour and engine of that AMG…fantastic
@@damilolaakanni I know, or the Audi with 55TFSI and stuff but pretty expensive for a 4cyl. Not saying it's slow or something but at that point buy a Golf R or something
Nothing can beat the sheer elegance and ferocity of the 1st gen AMG GT
The SLS can.
W204 C63 AMG...especially the coupe.
@@damilolaakanni 🥵
@@timobolka1 Meant to imply that no modern Mercedes can out do this generation of the Mercedes sports car
The sls and the slr
600+ lbs lighter and RWD has me wanting to drive the 1st gen far more.
Also, the transmission at the rear for better weight distribution.
They also changed from a 7 speed DCT to a 9 speed with wet clutch.... not even a sports car anymore nor does it drive like it.
Not to mention the price
The weight delta seems bonkers. 600 pounds is a *huge* amount to cart around with you everyday. Let's be real: 99.9% of owners will never track the car so why would you want to move all that extra weight every time to accelerate, change direction, or brake?
same. Exhaust, pipes and a tune, it will match the HP of the new GT
I KNEW in my bones Thomas was going to fall in love with the last gen GTs. I wondered why it never got its own video, but he did admit he was sleeping on how good it was. Now I just need him to drive the GTc, GTr, and the GT Black Series in probably an Extra TH video. PLEASE!
He did say he isn't interested in those variants though, likely because it no longer becomes a good value proposition. That being said, in Australia, the old GT is still holding alot of value at over USD$120k for a low mileage example, and for a similar mileage GTR for around $40k more.
@@jlgroovetek Same thing here in Brazil. It has not gotten cheap.
@@jlgroovetek
The problem is: are you really doing the first generation of AMG GT justice if you don't cover the more performance-oriented versions of the car? This is especially the case for a car review UA-cam channel where the content skews heavily in favor of performance cars. The GT S, GT R, and GT Black Series all drive quite differently than the base model, as you would expect. It would therefore make sense to drive those models as well, so you have a clear picture of the entire lineup.
@@CaseyCollier while all faster none of those ever achieved the balance the base model did. When the original gts came out it blew everyone away. It won mt's 2015 best drivers car beating out stuff like the 981 gt4 for all the reasons Thomas explainrd. Mercedes introduced rear steer and many suspension changes on the later higher performance models. While they added performance it gave the car a disconnected feeling as the rear steer always made the rear feel like it had compliance. The car lost its amazing immediately trustworthy balance.
@@memememine1
I'm not sure that's entirely true. While the steering feel may have been lost to some degree in the later models, can you really say with 100% certainty that the GT S, GT R, and GT Black Series aren't generally well-balanced cars that give the driver confidence when throwing them into a corner? Given that I believe they are, I would have to disagree with your characterization, there. Ultimately, I think if Thomas drove those three models, he'd likely have a blast in them. Sure, having a pure experience in the original base model GT is great, and I'm not trying to diminish that experience at all. What I am saying, though, is that if you want to truly understand the capabilities of the GT platform as a whole, you'll need to drive the higher performance models. It's the same for any performance-oriented car. As a reviewer, you can't truly grasp all the intricacies and capabilities of the 911 platform without driving the higher performance models in the lineup either.
Thomas KILLED this episode. He's so genuine and amped when he really loves a car. His driving review was pure passion. I can't wait for him to get a hold of the Black Series, it will be a modern Viper ACR video (their best video, yet IMO)
You guys in America don't know how lucky you are to be able to drive without front license plates. The car looks so much nicer without them. I work for Mercedes in Stuttgart. As an employee, I can say that we are very proud of our product. But I also understand what you mean by the change in philosophy. Don't forget that the direct competitor is the Porsche 911. I guess that's why it was important to enable a good lap time. Greetings from Stuttgart. The automobile heart of Germany.
Many states require front plates in the USA, but not all.
In California it's the law to have them
California sucks. @@kyoakland
Legally we can't in most states. Just a question of "will the cops notice?"
29 states actually require it!
To sum it up, these are some bullet points on the new AMG GT compared to its predecessor:
- They added 350 Kg (770lb), in the sports car world that's an absurd amount of added weight
- They ditched the transaxle design
- They ditched the dry sump system
- They ditched the front-mid engine layout
- They ditched hydraulic steering
- They made it AWD
- Oh, it now has a big iPad center screen, yay!
I guess its now truer to its Gran Turismo name tag but still. It's wrong on so many levels...
got wrong when they dropped the 6.2 got overweight but still wanted the 6.2 fame witha a bad 4.0
@@jessicalacasse6205 even though I own a car with the 6.2L I only partly agree with you. Yes, the 6.2 is the pinnacle of AMG engines, but considering AMG had no choice bud abide by strict emission laws the 4.0 they came up with is pretty damn fantastic. It‘s very tunable and works extremely well in the GT. But yeah, SLS is of course still my dream car 😁
they did all this to cater to their buyers, apparently their buyers want big GTs and not smaller 2 seat sports cars, it is what it is
@@defnotatroll In this case they‘re catering to their buyers just fine with the SL don‘t they? Also, the first GT was very successful. I don‘t really understand the reasoning behind it… 🤷♂️
@@jessicalacasse6205the 4.0 is an awesome engine
Gosh that first gen AMG GT is so frickin beautiful that it hurts
slr is way better looking
@@andrew190enope.
shit is uglyaf wdym
It is a good looking car but for me an SLS takes the cake
@@MaxFiveGames Honestly SLS is the best looking mercedes ever made
Damn it’s a c63s in disguise. I felt that 😂
It’s barely even a disguise. It looks almost THE SAME as the previous gen C63s Coupe… for over double the price
You've got 63 likes, i am officially obliged not to touch that like button.
Let’s keep his likes at 63
@@kjyuthey are gone now u can like too
That moment at the end was a shocker 😬
The best AMG GT63 review on the internet, hands down! Finally, someone mentioned how much better the old GT is compared to the new GT in terms of performance. However, it would be a much better comparison if they used the GT R versus the GT63. Both have the same turbo size, rear-wheel steering, and push 577hp. Their MSRPs are the same as well.
Though the difference is M177 vs M178. Which is better?
Not really
I have a '16 GTS (same color!) that I daily drive. After owning everything from a Porsche GT4 to a GT350 to Corvettes and endless modified vehicles, it's probably my favorite. Absolute steal for the price.
I bought a Corvette and now ditching it for a 2016 AMG GTS!!
“Plugs are for butts”
- James, June 2024 💀😭
you must be new around here
oh trust me it's older than that
@@pxlbrandon Well you know what they say- Content creation is all about consistency. In this case they’ve gone with the theme of ‘butts’ and ‘plugs’ 😂
He worked in Plugs, BDSM, and Edging. A master of his craft.
I had to stop the video at that exact point and come comment but I see you already did 😂😂😂
He just casually threw that in there and kept talking like nothing happened 😂😂😂
There's a guy near me selling an '88 SL500 in red for ~$8k and I'm so so tempted. Such a gorgeous, timeless, special looking car. Looks like it rolled out of a movie.
Do it!
Probably has technical issues, walk away.
@@jody024 Yah, that seems like 1/4 the normal price. Got to be a reason.
@@jody024 not necessarily, they go for about $7-14k in my area. It needs a fresh convertible top tho, so I guess that would be about $2k earmarked right there.
@@TheJohn8765 where are you seeing SLs of that vintage going for ~$30-40k?!
"It throttles you until you stop throttling it, kind of, I kind of like it in like a BDSM kind of way." James - June 2024. 🤣🤣
I got home tired from work, quickly made myself something to eat, sat down, and found a cool video to watch while eating, and then you played that sound at 0:31
Blame the sound on the video, uh-huh. A likely story.
The old one looks even better after 8 years... the long hood looks incredible...
I much prefer the Old Mercedes AMG GT actually
Looks so much better
Your not the only one
Have you seen it and drove it? The old gt does feel more raw but they both feel like real sports cars and the new one to me just looks better
@@shakomako8469 You're *
@@jameslaurensvn new one looks better?! Are you insane?
11:10 Look at the distance between front door end and the front tires on the old model. This ridiculously long front is what gives it that road presence and super car appeal. The new one has way too normal proportions in my eyes.
Agreed. If you chop off the front and back, in side profile the new one almost looks a bit Mustang-ish 😮
It's the same chassis they build the Aston Vantage on too... 🚽🧻
I never found the long hood aesthetically pleasing tbh
@@j.s.6080 That´s ok. But it made the car stand out. Now it looks like just another expensive and morbidly obese sportscar/GT.
@@j.s.6080I’m afraid he’s right son
26:12 is just what other car reviewers can't replicate. The humor, personality, chemistry.
This is probably the best episode of this series of new vs old. Probably because there is such a big difference between them.
Sorry to say this but BAN theater forever. No high performance vehicle should ever have fake sound. Ever. Period. Its completely embarrassing to anyone who buys these cars.
More power, faster, newer
More is not always better
The old one is just a much better looking, better proportions, more of a Mercedes AMG GT
Kind like most of the new BMW's and Benzes. it's like they all hit the pinnacle right before the 2020's and now they're just cyborg rhinos on wheels
Pretty much, mercedes lost their way since dieter zetsche retired
@@chiefdenisnot at all
I personaly disagree, for me the looks are the only good thing about the new GT. It's a dumb car with a lot of the things they did with it, but i love the look and the new interior (maybe not in red). But hey, looks are really subjective, so nothing wrong with disagreement here.
Agree, the older car looks better and more of a sport car than the new one. I’ll keep saying it, I just don’t like those new chrome wagon wheel air vents on Mercedes, I think they’re so ugly!
Soooo much better than the Straight Pipes! Thomas and James are filling the Clarkson, May, and Hammond gap.
I don't know how but it's like Thomas has little more Clarkson in him and James has a little more James in him. They all have equal parts Hammond.
Yeah it's by far the superior option for car reviews.
@@samuelmidzi8240💯agreed
They're completely different categories of car reviewers, you can't compare them saying one is better over the other
I liked watching the straight pipes, but after seeing this channel I never looked back.
As a former AMG GTS owner, I definitely feel a profound sense of sadness about the direction Mercedes has decided to go with their entire lineup of vehicles. Too digital - Mercedes now collects data on you (see Mozilla's privacy report) data that can influence the price of your insurance. Every car in the lineup has too many tech gimmicks, like expensive screens and haptic buttons that nobody likes. They're subjectively less beautiful, lines softened that otherwise defined AMG's muscle. Call me old fashioned if you'd like, but there's a beauty in analog gauges and a screen-less driving experience. Love you Mercedes, but we're over for now. xoxo
How reliable was it for you? I’ve only met one former owner (lease) and his was a disappointment 😢
I'm with you. People say my Audi interior is outdated, but that's just fine with me. I'll take my analog buttons. Even the little time I use my MMI I have to take my eyes off the road. The new cars are just one big iPad now.
@@Fabulousprofound168 Zero mechanical problems during my GTS ownership experience (2017 - 2023). One recall for the carbon fibre driveshaft. Maintenance was expensive but not obscene like a Lambo or Aston. The retraction mechanism on the cupholder cover is notoriously brittle and it was $2K to replace it.
In 20 years, which would you prefer? IMO, a rear wheel drive muscle car that can still go around a corner is going to be more desirable than a tech-heavy interior that won't age that well. And the old car looks like pure sex. The new one? Still good looking but less distinctive. I'll take the old GT any day of the week.
That's incorrect. No data is transmitted to insurance. You have to opt in and agree for that.
The AMG-GT was so beautifully designed, it didn't even matter that much it no longer had the 6.2 V8 like the legendary SLS. I think the new one with it's 4-seater coupé design is straying away from what the first AMG-GT was. Also: who at AMG thought it was a good idea to add that launch-control sound?
These are gorgeous. Either of these with a tune, exhaust, and turbos would be an absolute dream to own.
Just got 16 gts a couple months ago and it’s hard to beat what it has to offer at the current price range. Not to mention you get can so much more power out of it with a tune, love the car 🙌
I have one as well. And with a basic tune from Renntech, you are at just over 600hp. Which most likely will make it at least as quick as the current model.
Oh. And I bought and installed a new larger screen. It looks more modern, is touchscreen, has wireless android auto and CarPlay. So it brings you close to what current cars have in regards to the infotainment features.
@@brooklynnewyork5255Which screen did you get? And did you lose any options?
I picked up a 2017 GT S yesterday, with Dynamic Plus, CCB, Aerodynamics pack, Night pack, etc 😊 Absolutely awesome car! But it needs wireless Android Auto...
@@brooklynnewyork5255 Hey what screen did you get? I have 2016 GTS been wanting to upgrade the screen other than infotainment the interior of the car is on par if not better designed that newer 2020 plus cars
I'd much rather the old GT. I've driven some of them and they are so good to drive. Not to mention they look so much cooler
Drove the AMG GTR through the mountain roads of Colorado and it was glorious. Blows away Ferraris, Lambos, Aston, all of them in handling with the rear wheel steering. It's truly just that or a 911 in terms of handling
For reference:
a humvee weights in around 5300lbs
the new amg is around 1000lbs less
Gross weight is actually over 5200lbs...
this comment should be pinned
Well the weight is right between a GT500 and a Hellcat sadly that's kinda the norm nowadays
For reference, the new m5 is 5368 pounds :O, take that mercedes;).
Humvee is not 5300 lbs . You may want to check that again.
I was able to drive the old AMG GT-C in 2023 and the new AMG GT Coupé 63 two weeks ago, both during 3 day trips in the Alps. Wasn’t expecting the new one to feel that agile compared to the old one. Both are really fun cars, new one is way to expensive, but more usable as a daily with kids on the backseats.
Previous gen AMG GT is my fav car I'm so happy it finally made it in a TH vid!
I wont forget, it won 2016 drivers car of he year when it first came out over a 911 and everything else
911 more reliable?
@@teleguy5699yes they are engineered to the max expect the suv models.
The best car review channel by far 💙
Together with carwow
@@kamilsomczewski209I don't like carwow. The presenter is most times really "populist". He sometimes makes his presentations unnecessarily political. And not even good so.
He sometimes tries to be funny but is in my eyes cringe.
But I understand if you like him, mostly he's okay. I will stick to this channel
@@TheWallCladdingvery much so agreed, especially with the politics
@@chrisjvas wdym
@@TheWallCladding his personality seems so fake to me. At the end of the day hes only there to sell cars for carwow.
26:50
James: And this car, unlike that one, can come with a 2+2 configuration.
Thomas: Right, 'cause it's not a sports car.
James: ...
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So a 911 apparently isn't a sports car, now. I'm all sorts of confused. My 911 is the best sports car I've driven.
@@thomprd nah, he didn't mean it that way. It was just another argument because for him the new version feels too heavy and the handling isn't as good, so it's less of a sports car than the old one.
@@thomprd you're missing the point. The body of 911 is more spacious than of Mercedes due to its ridiculously long bonnet. Therefore, there is not much space to fit the rear seat row. 1st gen was strictly a 2-seater because of that and the 2nd gen should've been a strict 2-seater as well.
@@Danteska90the handling is definitely better
2016 amg gts was one of my favorite cars I've had
Why u get rid of it?
I remember when the 1st gen AMG GT came out I said that was the only Mercedes I'd craved, and it's cool that that still holds true today. The Aventador still beats in in terms of sheer theatrics and heart stopping looks, but that AMG is a nervously close second. It's so unlike anything else Mercedes makes and yet it has their DNA through and through. I love whatever mad genius concocted the concept and I love the brand even more for letting the lunatic actually build it.
23:43 EQewww broooo give an edior bonus for that xD
Brother eewwww
@@honza2755 what's that, brother?
Perfect way to start a work day
Absolutely.
the reason behind all of this is weight and bulkiness that this is basically a coupe version of the new sl
When Thomas was explaining how GT S drives, It felt like I am really driving it. Amazing narration Thomas!✌🏼
The first gen looks much better who agrees?
I like the new grill and wheels and taillights , but yeah otherwise older is better
I prefer old one
It would've been interesting to see it go against the old GTR instead of the GTS. Same horsepower, less weight, and even more of a stunner
That's not the predecessor of this new car tho. That's a way more expensive limited edition
But I guess not that much of a difference in price(?)
Makes no sense the GTR was a track oriented special version. This here exactly compares to the GTS
The GTR Pro was the track focused and limited edition. The regular GTR was just the most powerful in the general line-up, as is this with less powerful versions available. But sure, in terms of price, they're likely way closer to each other. It still would've been interesting to see how they compare sharing the power output, but with a very different philosophy.
@@dustinmerten9449The AMG GTR was most definitely track focused.
The best AMG GT review. This new AMG GT is worse than before. For this price, I prefer the new Vantage and 911. Or I’d take an old first-gen AMG GT.
Or just get a M4 competition. Less than half the price, less 1000lbs, and horsepower is essentially the same so your acceleration and handling will be better.
The 1st Gen AMG GT has been a dream car for me ❤️
GTC and GTR have not depreciated. I bought my 2019 new at a big discount, and I can sell it now, 4-5 years later, for the same price!
This video helped me with a purchase decision of a 2018 GT-C. Couldn't be happier.
I'd take the 70-ish fewer hp, 550 lbs less mass, 70% cheaper GT. Every single time. It looks good, but the 63's curb weight is insane.
Let’s be honest, weight honestly doesn’t make much of a difference with that awd system
@@fifteen8850yes it does
I thought i recognized the old one. THANKS NEAL!!
No better feeling than farting away a stomachache
Mercedes: comes out with the heaviest fast GT
BMW: "hold my schnitzel"
Honestly one of, if not THE best, car show on the internet. You always seem to top your previous video. Awesome job!!
the new GT looks like a FType
Lol where?
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@@DK70707honestly, I can kinda see it. Just the front end though. It’s like a mix of the first f type headlights and the facelifted grill
It does a bit
They both softened the lines and made them less aggressive looking in their most recent iterations, so I agree
The new Vantage refresh seems like the better car for the money now.
Much less usable though.
I agree with everything, but actually the amg gt3 racecar doesn’t have the 4,0 v8 but the old 6,2 one
The attention to detail, to record Thomas away from the mic so it fits david beckham standing by the door while saying "be honest". I love you guys❤
Old body is such a classic look... love it.
The old one really is just sooo much more special
I admire how you can shit on cars without shitting on them. The critic is well disguised yet plainly obvious if you want to look for it.
Favorite types of videos from you guys!
The criticisms of the new GT are interesting:
It doesn’t have buttons (remember when phones had buttons? It was the 90’s)
It’s AWD and purists love RWD. Except on a 911.
I like the old one, and it’s cheaper (and older)
I like my half the price M4/Jag/Lexus which is better than this car that I have not driven.
It’s not as fast in the quarter mile as a stripped down sports car like the Vette.
It’s for golf (the people buying this don’t golf. Hate to tell you, this is designed for gen X and gen X despises golf)
The Vantage is better (if slower and way more expensive)
If/when the screen breaks (whoever heard of a broken screen in a Mercedes?) you can’t control the climate. Well other than ‘Hey Mercedes, I’m cold’
Mostly they come down to ‘I don’t have one, so you shouldn’t either’.
And yet, when you drive one, even the 55 which is mostly what is available for test drives, it’s thrilling in the real world. It growls and spits in the way that every flat 6 doesn’t. It does flatter you in the way that a rwd ‘purist’ school sports car doesn’t (I had a Z4M that when you turned a corner at speed you either needed new underwear or saw a tree then hit it. Sideways). It flatters but doesn’t take control the way a 911 does, it’s brutal not clinical. When you know MBUX the controls are deep and complex, but not frustrating the way BMW or AM are.
So if you want a daily driver that is also slightly crazy on the way to Starbucks. A GT that you can use for a long weekend getaway. That growls at you like a junk yard dog that knows you, but may rip your arm off anyway. A drive that is beautiful from every angle when you are getting in and out of it (why are BMW so ugly these days?). A cockpit that is just a nice place to be. Something that eats the miles comfortably and is still quick off the line and in a lap time? Something that isn’t the obvious yet basic 911 every other bald middle aged guy round here drives.
That’s what I wanted. And that’s why this is the car for me. And the 63, compared to the 55, is just more. More of all of it.
everytime I see a new iteration of an amg flagship sports car, i always think what a gem of a unit the SLS was.
SLS IS WAS AND FOREVER WILL BE GOATED
you had me at the fart joke
The older I get, the more I appreciate front-engine design and usability. My DD for the last three years has been a C7 Z06 Corvette. While it is extremely usable due to massive trunk space, it is still very inconvenient. Having to take certain routes or avoid locations that cause me to scrape my nose is exhausting.
After DDing this car for years, I finally just added a Mazda CX-70 to my garage, and it's making me dislike my Z06 more and more every time I drive it.
Performance-wise, absolutely no question. The Z06 is a freaking monster. I even went for the Turbo S model of the CX-70 to keep some of that sporty feel. But it doesn't compare to the raw, on-the-bull-for-8-seconds feeling of flooring the Z06.
But that level of inconvenience surely cannot overcome the inconvenience of higher performance, mid-engine supercars.
More and more, I'm learning that cars like Lambos, Ferraris, etc. are horrible daily drivers. I'd honestly rather have a ~$80K luxury-performance sedan or SUV over a LaFerrari.
My dream garage ATM would have to be a C6 ZR1, an SLS AMG (love the AMG GT, but SLS is timeless), a Bentley Bentayga, and a Ford Raptor. Hypercars are cool to see and ridiculous to experience in a track setting. But real world? Not usable.
Pointless comment from me, but the Bentley bentayga is the ugliest car I've ever seen, genuinely amazed anyone likes them
And the old one looks so much better too
Strongly disagree.
I don't need two more seats.. my kids are grown. That carbon fiber bar could have been use to complete the half carbon bumper. The end of this video was hilarious!!! SO True!
I have had 3 cx5s for my wife. An 18 a 21 and a 24 All perfect. No issues ever. None ever driven past 80k, though. We recently added a cx30, and it had the same kind of rough drive in the first few gears as you describe in the 70. The shifting was kind of rough compared to the cx5. And that is weird because the 30 and the cx5 have the same eng and Trans. But after 1500k miles, the cx30 is shifting normal now.
Peak German cars with style and performance were from 2008-2016 prove me wrong that was the sweet spot the only German brand that is still peak is Porsche btw that new Mercedes is ugly but the older one is iconic I remember driving it in Forza
2000 E39 M5 might have something to say about that
2008 to 2016 ? 😭
The design is way better
The new one is beautiful, you just like hating in new cars
So much Blabla bs talk
Tfw just one ECU tune on the old AMG GT and it would destroy the new one in a roll save 140k for the old one plus tune and bang
Probably. A basic Renntech tune adds over 100hp.
@@brooklynnewyork5255do the same thing on the new car and it would beat an old tuned one 🤷♂️
Epic opening!…..to a great comparison review! 👍👍
Really enjoying these comparisons between new and old!
The cinematic of throttle house and cut scenes is really top tier
"James, be honest-" LMAO
Wow the GT3 RS casually snacking a race car on slicks 😂
GT3 RS is a 300k race car with an interior and semislicks, honestly not really surprising
@@DANGERZOMED and yet its a car with AC, Radio and a roof against a 550kg tracktoy
@@marcelk3847 also costs twice as much and is unobtainable unless you already own a dozen of their cars, also the gt3rs is just a track toy at best and an investment for rich people at worst
@@DANGERZOMED it is not twice as much. And that's the old bac mono. They haven't tested the current one. The 24 mono is about the same price as the gt3 rs.
What part of the video are you referencing?
Sweet mother of god, that rear at 20:25 😳
It looks like the Ferrari Roma to some extent. The taillights are different, obviously, but I see the resemblance otherwise.
You need a 997.2 4s that has an even better rear.
So beautiful ❤
Guys, the production is on another level: picture, sound, script. It’s a pleasure to watch and listen. Great work❤
As always this was a great video and overall car review, kept me glued to my screen the whole time. Can’t help but notice improvements in things like cinematography and the way some of the shots are filmed, feels like a high production tv show or movie at times.
2017-2018 amg gt c edition 50 roadster in designo graphite grey magno.. *chef's kiss*
"the all new amg gt.....just buy a 911"😂
Honestly though. This car has an identity crisis, it's filling the gap of something like Continental GT; a fast luxury car, rather than pure bred racecar adapted for the road of OG GT.
The new one has nothing to do with being an AMG GT. I hate this strategy Mercedes is doing. It's actually the successor to the SL and the GT and therefor combining them.
Mercedes-Benz still makes the SL with a V8, so I don't understand how this replaces the SL and GT?
@@damilolaakanni
Allow me to clarify his comment
The new GT is basically a hard top version of the AMG SL
@@damilolaakanni Yeah I fucked up. It's on the same platform is what I meant. It kind of literally is one with a roof. But in short. The new one is not worthy of being the successor to the GT.
For what it's worth, a $2,000 ECU tune took my 16gts from 503 to 625hp. It's such a great platform.
The new car fits the GT moniker better, but I wish AMG had room for a more dedicated sports car like the first-gen GT.
Great video, as always, but wanted to give a shout-out to whoever your sound guy is... the background music during the drives was very will done! Thx Throttle House!
Another Banger From Throttle House!
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5:53 can easily mistake it for an Aston Martin
I don't care that it's not as quick I am absolutely enamored with that first gen AMG GT really need one in my life
Really liked the camera angle you used in the lap time segment. Being able to see the track, you, and the way the car is moving around is perfect. Please make that the default view.
The stare at 31:14 actually made me laugh out loud
James looked like he saw a demon escape out of Thomas’ sneeze
I haven't laughed that hard over a simple fart joke since I was in Middle School!
Thank you very much guys! Now I'm searching for a 2016 AMG GTS !!!
Had the pleasure of driving the AMG GT-S on track for a couple of laps and man…what an amazing chassis. The R8 was by benchmark so far but the behaviour and engine of that AMG…fantastic
Green hell magno AMG GTR with yellow breaks and seat belts ❤..previous gen
I prefer the previous model
‘We all know plugs are buts’ ffs😂😂
Congrats on about to hit 3 million subscribers. Well deserved fellas. 🎉
They could honestly make a top gear type production
Didn’t realize that the AMG had such a gassy exhaust until that intro.
Every time James introduces himself "And I'm James!", he reminds me of Team America... "Maaaat.... Daaammmoon".
I will never understand the C43 version of this,that used to mean it's a 4.3V8 not a 4cylinder
Those days are long behind us, unfortunately. When last did you see that a BMW M340i had a 4.0 engine?
@@damilolaakanni I know, or the Audi with 55TFSI and stuff but pretty expensive for a 4cyl. Not saying it's slow or something but at that point buy a Golf R or something
No, the c43 always had a v6, the e43 has had a v6 and now i6
@@dietznutz1 the w202 had a 4.3 V8
It's for people that care about looks and status and not speed
I love you guys, the content is very informative. Every time I watch you guys I never stop smiling.
First gen AMG GT is brilliant, when I first drove this car in 2015 I was amazed by the feeling and real sound