New Mercedes AMG GT vs The Cheapest AMG GT You Can Buy // DRAG RACE, REVIEW + LAP TIME
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- The 2024 Mercedes-AMG GT 63 Coupe ($195,000 starting in Canada, $175,900 starting in the US) is brand new and is now in its second generation. The first generation Mercedes-AMG GT S ($83,000 CAD, ~$60,000 USD) offers a powerful Biturbo V8 and a stunning road presence. This new generation offers all-wheel drive, even more power from a Biturbo V8, and a more spacious cabin with a 2+2 option. But how do they compare? And does the new one provide the same thrills as its predecessor? Thomas and James are excited to find out. We hope you enjoy the episode. And then subscribe, silly.
A huge thank you to Apex Motorcars @apex.motorcars and to Kurran @vijanvision for making their GT S available to us
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#AMG #GT #V8
Nothing can beat the sheer elegance and ferocity of the 1st gen AMG GT
The SLS can.
W204 C63 AMG...especially the coupe.
@@damilolaakanni 🥵
@@timobolka1 Meant to imply that no modern Mercedes can out do this generation of the Mercedes sports car
The sls and the slr
600+ lbs lighter and RWD has me wanting to drive the 1st gen far more.
Also, the transmission at the rear for better weight distribution.
They also changed from a 7 speed DCT to a 9 speed with wet clutch.... not even a sports car anymore nor does it drive like it.
Not to mention the price
The weight delta seems bonkers. 600 pounds is a *huge* amount to cart around with you everyday. Let's be real: 99.9% of owners will never track the car so why would you want to move all that extra weight every time to accelerate, change direction, or brake?
same. Exhaust, pipes and a tune, it will match the HP of the new GT
Damn it’s a c63s in disguise. I felt that 😂
It’s barely even a disguise. It looks almost THE SAME as the previous gen C63s Coupe… for over double the price
You've got 63 likes, i am officially obliged not to touch that like button.
Let’s keep his likes at 63
@@kjyuthey are gone now u can like too
That moment at the end was a shocker 😬
Thomas KILLED this episode. He's so genuine and amped when he really loves a car. His driving review was pure passion. I can't wait for him to get a hold of the Black Series, it will be a modern Viper ACR video (their best video, yet IMO)
You guys in America don't know how lucky you are to be able to drive without front license plates. The car looks so much nicer without them. I work for Mercedes in Stuttgart. As an employee, I can say that we are very proud of our product. But I also understand what you mean by the change in philosophy. Don't forget that the direct competitor is the Porsche 911. I guess that's why it was important to enable a good lap time. Greetings from Stuttgart. The automobile heart of Germany.
Many states require front plates in the USA, but not all.
In California it's the law to have them
California sucks. @@kyoakland
Legally we can't in most states. Just a question of "will the cops notice?"
29 states actually require it!
I got home tired from work, quickly made myself something to eat, sat down, and found a cool video to watch while eating, and then you played that sound at 0:31
Blame the sound on the video, uh-huh. A likely story.
I have a '16 GTS (same color!) that I daily drive. After owning everything from a Porsche GT4 to a GT350 to Corvettes and endless modified vehicles, it's probably my favorite. Absolute steal for the price.
I bought a Corvette and now ditching it for a 2016 AMG GTS!!
26:12 is just what other car reviewers can't replicate. The humor, personality, chemistry.
Just got 16 gts a couple months ago and it’s hard to beat what it has to offer at the current price range. Not to mention you get can so much more power out of it with a tune, love the car 🙌
I have one as well. And with a basic tune from Renntech, you are at just over 600hp. Which most likely will make it at least as quick as the current model.
Oh. And I bought and installed a new larger screen. It looks more modern, is touchscreen, has wireless android auto and CarPlay. So it brings you close to what current cars have in regards to the infotainment features.
@@brooklynnewyork5255Which screen did you get? And did you lose any options?
I picked up a 2017 GT S yesterday, with Dynamic Plus, CCB, Aerodynamics pack, Night pack, etc 😊 Absolutely awesome car! But it needs wireless Android Auto...
@@brooklynnewyork5255 Hey what screen did you get? I have 2016 GTS been wanting to upgrade the screen other than infotainment the interior of the car is on par if not better designed that newer 2020 plus cars
The AMG-GT was so beautifully designed, it didn't even matter that much it no longer had the 6.2 V8 like the legendary SLS. I think the new one with it's 4-seater coupé design is straying away from what the first AMG-GT was. Also: who at AMG thought it was a good idea to add that launch-control sound?
26:50
James: And this car, unlike that one, can come with a 2+2 configuration.
Thomas: Right, 'cause it's not a sports car.
James: ...
🤣🤣🤣
So a 911 apparently isn't a sports car, now. I'm all sorts of confused. My 911 is the best sports car I've driven.
@@thomprd nah, he didn't mean it that way. It was just another argument because for him the new version feels too heavy and the handling isn't as good, so it's less of a sports car than the old one.
@@thomprd you're missing the point. The body of 911 is more spacious than of Mercedes due to its ridiculously long bonnet. Therefore, there is not much space to fit the rear seat row. 1st gen was strictly a 2-seater because of that and the 2nd gen should've been a strict 2-seater as well.
@@Danteska90the handling is definitely better
As a former AMG GTS owner, I definitely feel a profound sense of sadness about the direction Mercedes has decided to go with their entire lineup of vehicles. Too digital - Mercedes now collects data on you (see Mozilla's privacy report) data that can influence the price of your insurance. Every car in the lineup has too many tech gimmicks, like expensive screens and haptic buttons that nobody likes. They're subjectively less beautiful, lines softened that otherwise defined AMG's muscle. Call me old fashioned if you'd like, but there's a beauty in analog gauges and a screen-less driving experience. Love you Mercedes, but we're over for now. xoxo
How reliable was it for you? I’ve only met one former owner (lease) and his was a disappointment 😢
I'm with you. People say my Audi interior is outdated, but that's just fine with me. I'll take my analog buttons. Even the little time I use my MMI I have to take my eyes off the road. The new cars are just one big iPad now.
@@Fabulousprofound168 Zero mechanical problems during my GTS ownership experience (2017 - 2023). One recall for the carbon fibre driveshaft. Maintenance was expensive but not obscene like a Lambo or Aston. The retraction mechanism on the cupholder cover is notoriously brittle and it was $2K to replace it.
In 20 years, which would you prefer? IMO, a rear wheel drive muscle car that can still go around a corner is going to be more desirable than a tech-heavy interior that won't age that well. And the old car looks like pure sex. The new one? Still good looking but less distinctive. I'll take the old GT any day of the week.
That's incorrect. No data is transmitted to insurance. You have to opt in and agree for that.
The first gen looks much better who agrees?
I like the new grill and wheels and taillights , but yeah otherwise older is better
This is probably the best episode of this series of new vs old. Probably because there is such a big difference between them.
More power, faster, newer
More is not always better
The old one is just a much better looking, better proportions, more of a Mercedes AMG GT
Kind like most of the new BMW's and Benzes. it's like they all hit the pinnacle right before the 2020's and now they're just cyborg rhinos on wheels
Pretty much, mercedes lost their way since dieter zetsche retired
@@chiefdenisnot at all
I personaly disagree, for me the looks are the only good thing about the new GT. It's a dumb car with a lot of the things they did with it, but i love the look and the new interior (maybe not in red). But hey, looks are really subjective, so nothing wrong with disagreement here.
Agree, the older car looks better and more of a sport car than the new one. I’ll keep saying it, I just don’t like those new chrome wagon wheel air vents on Mercedes, I think they’re so ugly!
Soooo much better than the Straight Pipes! Thomas and James are filling the Clarkson, May, and Hammond gap.
I don't know how but it's like Thomas has little more Clarkson in him and James has a little more James in him. They all have equal parts Hammond.
Yeah it's by far the superior option for car reviews.
@@samuelmidzi8240💯agreed
They're completely different categories of car reviewers, you can't compare them saying one is better over the other
I liked watching the straight pipes, but after seeing this channel I never looked back.
The 1st Gen AMG GT has been a dream car for me ❤️
The older I get, the more I appreciate front-engine design and usability. My DD for the last three years has been a C7 Z06 Corvette. While it is extremely usable due to massive trunk space, it is still very inconvenient. Having to take certain routes or avoid locations that cause me to scrape my nose is exhausting.
After DDing this car for years, I finally just added a Mazda CX-70 to my garage, and it's making me dislike my Z06 more and more every time I drive it.
Performance-wise, absolutely no question. The Z06 is a freaking monster. I even went for the Turbo S model of the CX-70 to keep some of that sporty feel. But it doesn't compare to the raw, on-the-bull-for-8-seconds feeling of flooring the Z06.
But that level of inconvenience surely cannot overcome the inconvenience of higher performance, mid-engine supercars.
More and more, I'm learning that cars like Lambos, Ferraris, etc. are horrible daily drivers. I'd honestly rather have a ~$80K luxury-performance sedan or SUV over a LaFerrari.
My dream garage ATM would have to be a C6 ZR1, an SLS AMG (love the AMG GT, but SLS is timeless), a Bentley Bentayga, and a Ford Raptor. Hypercars are cool to see and ridiculous to experience in a track setting. But real world? Not usable.
Pointless comment from me, but the Bentley bentayga is the ugliest car I've ever seen, genuinely amazed anyone likes them
23:43 EQewww broooo give an edior bonus for that xD
Brother eewwww
@@honza2755 what's that, brother?
For reference:
a humvee weights in around 5300lbs
the new amg is around 1000lbs less
Gross weight is actually over 5200lbs...
this comment should be pinned
Well the weight is right between a GT500 and a Hellcat sadly that's kinda the norm nowadays
For reference, the new m5 is 5368 pounds :O, take that mercedes;).
Humvee is not 5300 lbs . You may want to check that again.
I'd much rather the old GT. I've driven some of them and they are so good to drive. Not to mention they look so much cooler
Drove the AMG GTR through the mountain roads of Colorado and it was glorious. Blows away Ferraris, Lambos, Aston, all of them in handling with the rear wheel steering. It's truly just that or a 911 in terms of handling
Previous gen AMG GT is my fav car I'm so happy it finally made it in a TH vid!
Perfect way to start a work day
Absolutely.
I have had 3 cx5s for my wife. An 18 a 21 and a 24 All perfect. No issues ever. None ever driven past 80k, though. We recently added a cx30, and it had the same kind of rough drive in the first few gears as you describe in the 70. The shifting was kind of rough compared to the cx5. And that is weird because the 30 and the cx5 have the same eng and Trans. But after 1500k miles, the cx30 is shifting normal now.
GTC and GTR have not depreciated. I bought my 2019 new at a big discount, and I can sell it now, 4-5 years later, for the same price!
It would've been interesting to see it go against the old GTR instead of the GTS. Same horsepower, less weight, and even more of a stunner
That's not the predecessor of this new car tho. That's a way more expensive limited edition
But I guess not that much of a difference in price(?)
Makes no sense the GTR was a track oriented special version. This here exactly compares to the GTS
The GTR Pro was the track focused and limited edition. The regular GTR was just the most powerful in the general line-up, as is this with less powerful versions available. But sure, in terms of price, they're likely way closer to each other. It still would've been interesting to see how they compare sharing the power output, but with a very different philosophy.
@@dustinmerten9449The AMG GTR was most definitely track focused.
I don't care that it's not as quick I am absolutely enamored with that first gen AMG GT really need one in my life
the new GT looks like a FType
Lol where?
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@@DK70707honestly, I can kinda see it. Just the front end though. It’s like a mix of the first f type headlights and the facelifted grill
It does a bit
They both softened the lines and made them less aggressive looking in their most recent iterations, so I agree
you had me at the fart joke
I don't need two more seats.. my kids are grown. That carbon fiber bar could have been use to complete the half carbon bumper. The end of this video was hilarious!!! SO True!
Honestly one of, if not THE best, car show on the internet. You always seem to top your previous video. Awesome job!!
The new Vantage refresh seems like the better car for the money now.
Much less usable though.
I thought i recognized the old one. THANKS NEAL!!
I agree with everything, but actually the amg gt3 racecar doesn’t have the 4,0 v8 but the old 6,2 one
everytime I see a new iteration of an amg flagship sports car, i always think what a gem of a unit the SLS was.
SLS IS WAS AND FOREVER WILL BE GOATED
Understanding the point/difference of the new GT over the old one requires driving it in the rain(and we get a lot of that where I come from), the sheer usability all year round of the new one compared to the old one is staggering.
The old one really is just sooo much more special
the reason behind all of this is weight and bulkiness that this is basically a coupe version of the new sl
Sweet mother of god, that rear at 20:25 😳
It looks like the Ferrari Roma to some extent. The taillights are different, obviously, but I see the resemblance otherwise.
You need a 997.2 4s that has an even better rear.
So beautiful ❤
I love you guys, the content is very informative. Every time I watch you guys I never stop smiling.
The music from 13:46 to 15:23 harmonizes nicely with the engine revs.
I'd take the 70-ish fewer hp, 550 lbs less mass, 70% cheaper GT. Every single time. It looks good, but the 63's curb weight is insane.
Let’s be honest, weight honestly doesn’t make much of a difference with that awd system
@@fifteen8850yes it does
"James, be honest-" LMAO
Tfw just one ECU tune on the old AMG GT and it would destroy the new one in a roll save 140k for the old one plus tune and bang
Probably. A basic Renntech tune adds over 100hp.
@@brooklynnewyork5255do the same thing on the new car and it would beat an old tuned one 🤷♂️
The attention to detail, to record Thomas away from the mic so it fits david beckham standing by the door while saying "be honest". I love you guys❤
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The new one has nothing to do with being an AMG GT. I hate this strategy Mercedes is doing. It's actually the successor to the SL and the GT and therefor combining them.
Mercedes-Benz still makes the SL with a V8, so I don't understand how this replaces the SL and GT?
@@damilolaakanni
Allow me to clarify his comment
The new GT is basically a hard top version of the AMG SL
@@damilolaakanni Yeah I fucked up. It's on the same platform is what I meant. It kind of literally is one with a roof. But in short. The new one is not worthy of being the successor to the GT.
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2017-2018 amg gt c edition 50 roadster in designo graphite grey magno.. *chef's kiss*
Peak German cars with style and performance were from 2008-2016 prove me wrong that was the sweet spot the only German brand that is still peak is Porsche btw that new Mercedes is ugly but the older one is iconic I remember driving it in Forza
2000 E39 M5 might have something to say about that
2008 to 2016 ? 😭
The design is way better
The new one is beautiful, you just like hating in new cars
So much Blabla bs talk
The cinematic of throttle house and cut scenes is really top tier
Really liked the camera angle you used in the lap time segment. Being able to see the track, you, and the way the car is moving around is perfect. Please make that the default view.
Great video, as always, but wanted to give a shout-out to whoever your sound guy is... the background music during the drives was very will done! Thx Throttle House!
The new one looks gorgeous from the outside and inside 😍 , just some people like hating on all the new cars
Every time James introduces himself "And I'm James!", he reminds me of Team America... "Maaaat.... Daaammmoon".
Green hell magno AMG GTR with yellow breaks and seat belts ❤..previous gen
1st Gen AMG GT C is prob my choice.. but a used 991.1 P911 4 S would be hard to pass.
That david beckham reference was just 😂🔥
I prefer the previous model
An AMG GT vs an AMG SL is essentially what this is. Mercedes was so lazy that they literally just put a roof on the SL and said it’s the new GT. I’ve lost all respect for AMG after this and the four cylinder C Class.
A GTC or GTR would have beaten the new GT63 in the rolling start, no question!
10:56 - the gap between the rear of the front wheel arch and the leading edge of the door shouts "weight distribution!". Oh and fake vents tells you the car evolution is going the WRONG way (just ask the old C63s......)
Funny enough I saw a amg GTs today in blue , still a head turner 10 years later
I will never understand the C43 version of this,that used to mean it's a 4.3V8 not a 4cylinder
Those days are long behind us, unfortunately. When last did you see that a BMW M340i had a 4.0 engine?
@@damilolaakanni I know, or the Audi with 55TFSI and stuff but pretty expensive for a 4cyl. Not saying it's slow or something but at that point buy a Golf R or something
No, the c43 always had a v6, the e43 has had a v6 and now i6
@@dietznutz1 the w202 had a 4.3 V8
It's for people that care about looks and status and not speed
First gen AMG GT is brilliant, when I first drove this car in 2015 I was amazed by the feeling and real sound
A V shaped console with 8 buttons was brilliant.
"Plugs are for butts" favourite quote.
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I'm in love with the looks of the 1st gen to this very day...
Very nice. Next year, do a comparison between the Mercedes and the Corvette C8 Eray and ZR1
I feel you on them heavy sneezes I often give myself whiplash as well
I'll keep my 2018 AMG GT C, Thank you!
You guys are dropping BANGER after BANGER. Best car reviewers on the PLANET!!!
I drove AMG GTS in Vegas. It's definitely a fun car, but you can't drive it comfortably for an hour or more. I recommend renting one to try it out and feel the masterpiece of engineering and quality.
Loving the Gen 1 GTS!
Since the first time I saw the SLS on Top Gear, it was my dream car. At the time, it's pricing seemed amazing and I wished I could have bought one. Unfortunately I was too young to buy one and they are now priced outside of my reach. I really fell in love with the AMG GT when it came out though. It modernized the SLS and made it livable while maintaining what mattered, and at $145k US starting, the GT R felt like it would be one day something I could feasibly work to afford. 145k is the number that's been in the back of my mind throughout high school and into my time at university. Now though, the GT R's successor will be close to a quarter of a million dollars, and in all the ways that I want to appreciate the car as a mechanical engineer, it's worse. Exactly in the way Thomas explained with the old GT.
The silhouette of the new one is really nice but I think they did a better job with the lights and stuff on the SL
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I love this series yall are doing!
I think the older one looks nicer than the new one. Better rims, more to the ground..
Car & Driver (mag) clocked the first-gen gts in 2015 in 3 sec flat 0-60, faster than the GTC due to lighter weight and lower cd coefficient with less width on rear end. You want acceleration, don't get bulk (I.e. newer models).
I own the AMG GT S and just test drove the new AMG GT55. My impressions are right in line with yours!
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A AMG with a Valvetronic exhaust is one of the most amazing sounds! That’s the dream right there…
I love how they bypass all Mercedes problems and breakdowns that they have mechanically.
Bullshit Talk
I said it previously and I will say it again: I love when these two knuckleheads disagree with each other. They have such a perfect chemistry! That's why TH IS the replacement for the old Top Gear.
The AMG GT is a dream car for those who love the raw sportscar feel! Looks like you can flick a paddle and skeDADDLE cause you were MOVIN!
I prefer the older one by FAR. That SOUND!
Have to wonder what intro they will do for the new BMW M5, it now weighs more than a Tesla Model X!!
As a pice of design that new Mercedes looks fantastic. Hats off to the designers, BMW should take note…
OG AMG GT is still such a beautiful car, it will become an icon, much like vipers.
A buddy of mine had the 1st gen; monster indeed! Would love to see you guys review the Z4 MCoupe; it holds much of the same elements.
A roll on from 50 against the GTr would have been a big reveal of how much of a step back this is and that it's a 2 door version of the 4 door E class based GT.
If you have the old one or if 60k is more attainable than 200k you pick the gts. However a Porsche Excellence Quote ( we’ll paraphrase) “ if you have to pick a Porsche you pick the newest one you can afford “
Newer is more reliable/ safer and for me the back seats = family car 😊
The older model looks TEN times better.
17:55, Where is Tesla Model S Track Pack and the new Model 3 Performance?
5:35 "that all wheel drive system that could decouple the "REAR" to do all kind of crazy staff !! "
you mean it could do crazy understeers with decoupling the rear differential ?!!