These are competent and patient instructors. The kind who remember they have been there and what it was like. The main points driven home here are: 1) Look! Watch the way out, not what is in front of your wheel. 2) Do not use too much clutch, particularly on tight turns. 3) Use your brake as much as you need to 4) On a heavy bike putting a foot to the ground is counter-productive.
Those are heavy motorcycles. I practiced this for hours and hours before I got the hang of it. I bought my own cones, went to empty parking lots. But once you learn it, it gives you a lot more confidence maneuvering your motorcycle
I keep some tennis balls cut in half in my hard bags for when I land up on a ride and see an empty lot.. time for some cone work. I suck but can at least do u turns in under 3 Spots and can do the slow cone weave (12’).. May sound basic but yea these are big bikes (I ride a Road King). Physics are physics.. size of bike doesn’t change the techniques. I feel like a better rider due to this practice. And I really don’t want to be that guy duck walking thru the gas station instead of doing a u turn to get to the open pump
These instructors are awesome! They are teaching instead of grilling every time someone drops the bike. They don't panic either, they keep a cool, calm composure which is also great because the student isnt going to freak out or fret or get frustrated. Man, my class was pretty much like training with drill sergeants!
Man, I thought I was the only one that had problems with tight u-turns, but seeing these State Troopers in training inspires me to keep working at it. Thanks so much for sharing.
Daniel: Practice is necessary to master the skills of safely riding a motorcycle. But, if you practice the wrong things over and over again you are not doing yourself a favor. A two day course will teach you the correct way to maneuver the motorcycle at slow speeds. High speed skills are taught at many of the racetracks around the nation by independent contractors who have met certain qualifications to obtain an "Instructors' Permit". Jerry "Motorman" Palladino has a number of excellent free videos on UA-cam.} I've been riding motorcycles since 1959 and was a motor officer for an agency in California for about 5 years. I'm now 76 years old and still ride. Currently I have a 2017 Road Glide Ultra which is a good 300 lbs heavier than my old ElectraGlide and 400 lbs heavier than my 1960 Harley DuoGlide Police Bike.
@Comanche Umm, no they aren't. Those kids can do stunts but motor officers practice for the unexpected. It takes years of skill and practice. The knuckle head poppin a wheelie just learned a new trick and will probably be dead in five years.
@Comanche Something tells me that you're that knucklehead poppin wheelies. The average kid doesn't have experience. Riding dirt bikes since they were 6 is not real life street experience
Best training video yet. All because of the instructors not being a**holes. They do a great job of 'instructing'. What a concept. I signed up for civilian police training , gonna use their bike. Worth the extra money. Can't wait!
I've worked my way through these maneuvers in 'Ride Like A Pro' by motor officer Jerry 'Motorman' Palladino. Whether it is your own bike or someone else's, these maneuvers are tough, but necessary to be the world's safest riders. Keep up the hard work! This training has saved my life in multiple encounters with negligent drivers in cages.
There could be no worse torture than waiting in the queue and watching others struggle, knowing your turn is approaching. My heart pounds thinking about it.
I instruct new riders through their basic training in the UK,the slalom course is probably as tight as the one in the video,but our pupils are riding 125cc yamaha's not full dress Harley tourers. Full respect to anyone who can manhandle one of these round a tight obstacle course,most Harley riders in the UK struggle to control the bikes in a straight line!! Great work from the instructors.
Great instructors. Patient, never yelling. I don’t even own a motorcycle or even ridden one since I was a teen. Who knows maybe one day. Big respect. Thank you for posting
I've watched a lot of videos , and learn something from everyone , I try and practice a lot of these techniques in a parking lot because we don't have any schools near where I live , and the ones they do have about 100 miles away are really expensive . I wish to thank everyone that's making these videos for helping me be a safer and better rider , and I believe that every rider out there should be watching and practicing at least twice a week till they get it and then should keep up on training as much as possible .. God bless you all ,, and ride safe ..
This just goes to show no matter how long you've been riding, there always room for improvement. This not easy at all. The second guy has better control of the throttle then the other. That's why they go through this training. This is awesome to watch and learn from. Nice Job!
Maybe but the main problem of most instructors is that they surprise the students by shouting out instructions like 'turn your head', 'watch out' etc. Which makes students do wrong movements and fail. They should let students make the faults during maneuver without any comments. And after the maneuver is done discuss all the errors.
Learning to slip the clutch while applying the rear/front brake. I taught my honey to ride at age 54. Now 58. I am 61. She has a sportster and me a softail. We watched this video and she caught mistakes before it happened. Me riding since I am 11 but mentally I am 27. I am never growing old
Never to old to ride. My wife and I are 64, she is, over g to the second stage for her motor license this month. Looking forward to getting back in the saddle
I went through that same school with TLETA back in 2009, it was similar in terms of learning the combination of throttle, clutch, and rear brake along with head and eyes. About day 3 to day 5 it clicks, you figure out the bike, what it will do and you figure out your comfort in doing it. That exercise in the video is called the intersection and it uses about all the skills you need. Once you master that you can do about anything. Also for general rule of thumb you need a 9’ turn radius. So you should be able to do a u turn in 18’ or on a two lane road without putting down your foot or stopping. Motor Officer School is the hardest but most fun training I’ve had in law enforcement.
@@nickgee7145 thank you. I will be getting my sport bike in a few months. Have to get my gear 1st, test some bikes out (never owned one nor ridden one) and bam!
Learned a lot of tips by the instructors. Getting to know the feel of your bike. Im not a police officer but did purchase a 1997 Police FLHTPI bike last year. My goal is to listen and watch these videos to become a better rider.
Wow I have a new perspective on how much work it is to be a motorcycle cop. They always seem to look so skilled now I see why. The instructors seem to really have a great temperament and positive help. Much respect.
Theres a saying I learned saying a guy with a clean bike is a good rider. A guy with a scuffed bike is a better rider. I guess the take away is you fall but you learn from your mistakes and get better. If you dont ever drop or fall off your bike, you will never know the absolute limit of yourself and the bike. **not saying go to go crash your bike at highway speeds though.**
@@hyunki0510 Better to crash/drop the bike while practicing life-saving maneuvers than to drop/crash the bike on the road, in an actual, dangerous traffic situation.
Great video. I've been riding over 50 years and it takes great skill to master maneuvers and control the bike. I have a lot of admiration for what you do and your dedication. Be safe
The skills that you learn at Police Motorcycle School will live with you to the last day you ride. you will have a edge on any biker. Be Cool and Ride Safe.
Oh the good old days. Gotta drag that rear brake. Helps keep you up right. Setting the throttle and feathering the clutch all at the same time takes a lot of practice. Thank goodness for patient instructors👍🏼
These guys need the Motor Man Jerry - best teacher for making tight turns using the Friction Zone and Don't Look Down - Snap That Head To Look Where The Bike Is Going Next Jerry The Motor Man - I've learned an awful lot from that fella - a Real Pro !
Years ago my dad was treasurer of The Tulsa Ramblers.Held their own races,etc. One guy got a cop job(good dude,good racer) so he got paid to ride his HARLEY and throw real assholes off the road!
I feel all of these men are brave motorcycle riders. I would not judge any of them. I have never even attempted this. I am very impressed and the courage each man has to keep trying. Very good video thanks for sharing. Ride Safe
There is a vid of a 16 yr old girl riding a police bike like a champ...I have this same bike..they are so well balanced very easy to ride...of coarse that's not without saying l've dumped mine a few times...Sometimes it just can't be avoided...
Muscle memory! Where you look is where you will go. Eyes to the horizon and getting your head around. Don’t put your foot down but if you do, let the motor go down and step away. These ( and many ) other things I learned during motor training and continued to train through my years as a Mary unit..loved every minute of it!!
It’s been over 25 years since my first couple of days of motor school. Wow! Seems like yesterday, but a humbling experience to say the least. You think you knew how to ride a motorcycle and you find out real quick, you didn’t. Wouldn’t trade those days for nothing and now over 2 decades later, I’m teaching it. Ride Like a Pro-NC
This is one of the best vids! I laughed sometimes but then I remembered how hard it was for me to go through the advance motorcycle safety course at Ft. Carson on my 1979 Gold Wing. This course is much harder. Kudos to all the troopers for hanging in there and getting it done!
Turning like this is harder than it looks. Two things that help me is looking where I'm turning, and using the clutch and rear brake instead of the throttle. It might be a bad habit, but I eliminate the throttle by pulsing it. I also find I'm more timid on a bike that I'm not familiar with because of the clutche's slip point being different and strange. I bet some of these riders are struggling with an unfamiliar clutch and brake.
Good instructors, good students too. The two must work in sync with one another. The student must listen and DO as instructed. This brings out the best in an instructor. As soon as you DO as instructed, the instructor has a desire to give you more to absorb/learn, you're pulling out the best in them. Good training, pivot at the waist to remain upright as you lean the bike, look to where you want to go, find that balance of throttle, clutch (slip), and rear brake application to take advantage of the gyroscopic affect within the bike's engine/wheels. Listen to the RPMs. Seeing the lines you need to take, to put the apex of a given turn where you can make best use of it helps. This is why the instructors were coaching to go wide before the lean/turn. The officer who was struggling, is still working through the understanding of using the gyroscopic affect, balance of throttle/clutch/rear brake to enable him to lean the bike at slow speed without spilling. Working throttle/rear brake while keeping the clutch slippage at the given RPM (1500 is what I heard) will help you to speed up/slow down as needed. The set-up of the bike is important as well. Slightly taller in the ass-end will lighten the feel of the bike at slow speed. Lower rear shocks (than stock) make the bike feel heavier and more sluggish at the same task Another variable an instructor has to become aware of, is whether the trainee is in need of chiropractic care (adjustment of the head in relation to the first cervical vertebra). If this is out of adjustment, the whole body tries to compensate for the out of balance state. Equilibrium can be affected. Hats off to all who participated in the making of this video.
There are two types of riders. Those that have fallen and those that will fall. I’m happen to belong to both groups. Practice makes perfect. You have to ride on the edge and occasionally you fall off.
Wow ,most police departments are happy when they have deputies that know how to read and write and don't throw a tantrum when they pullover grandma for doing 6 over. These guys have bikes without training wheels. Respect....
I could watch this for hours, awesome instructors, so patient and encouraging, that 2nd rider just nailed it every time. Those Harleys are big heavy powerful bikes, doing those tight turns are extremely difficult. I wouldn't even be able to do it on my Sportster.
this video is extremely helpful I just bought my first motorcycle and still need to learn how to ride watching this officers go thru the paces on a big bike explains a lot of what I've have to learn before I take it for a ride and go take my riding course to get my dl ps my bike is a 00 HD superglide keep posting videos like this I'm not going out riding and put myself or anyone else in danger
Nothing but respect for every one of these men. They're already doing a dangerous job as troopers. Now they're training to put themselves at even more risk...all in the name of protecting the public. My helmet is off to each of them.
There are 2 kinds of riders. Those that have dropped their bike and those that will drop their bike. You are not alone. I participate with a drill team and having taken several riding courses including one like this with the Oklahoma troopers. I can ride that course (we call it the "cross") because of what they taught me. Great class right there. TN is doing it right.
I remember the first time I scraped my floor boards. Was about 1 month into riding. Scared the crap out of me. Now I scrape it through small round abouts and flying through the twisty hills. I love the sound. Probably freaks anyone else who hears it right out though
What nobody is failing to mention, is the speed that is required to pull these maneuvers off. If you ride too slow, you fall over if you ride too fast, you won’t make the turn.
What people seem to be missing is that you've GOT to have power going to that back wheel, or you'll dump it. Keep that throttle on, and use the clutch and rear brake to control the speed. It took me a while to learn that, too !!
This course is a real blast! Know how to use clutch control (friction zone) and look where you want to go (turn that head and those eyes), and the rest is a motorcycle playground. Good training video.
Some good riding in this video ... everyone can benefit from training, from folks not so comfy on a big bike to more experienced riders. I could watch videos like these all day long: I love the tippy-tappy noises of the big twins. 🎶 to my ears. Ride safe, motor officers !!
I'm a new rider practicing for my motorcycle skill test in CA. One thing I figured out by just practicing in the parking lot is that: to turn a heavy bike I need to turn with my body. First I have to look in the direction I want to turn, and then I shift my body weight by pushing with my feet and my hips, which will in turn lean the bike, the handle bar would then follow to keep the balance. If I just turn the handle bar it would be too late. In the cones swerve drill, I will have to shift my weight to stand the bike up when I to pass between the cones and then lean the other direction while turning. This is why it helps to not stare at the cone in front of you but look far down the line of cones, it gives you a better sense of your balance and how the bike is leaning. Also when turning (circle ride basically), two things affect your turn radius: your weight, and speed. If you shift your body weight outside of the circle you go wide, if you shift your weight inside the circle you go tight, if you go faster, you go wide, and if you go slower you go tighter. Therefore if you want to right faster while keeping the same turn radius you need to shift your weight more inside and lean the bike more. I found it possible to keep ride a very tight circle with clutch fully out just by manipulating the lean angle of the bike by carefully shifting my body weight around. And the clutch, throttle and rear brake just gives you more tools to control your speed.
Jerry "Motorman" Palladino shows how it's done in his "Ride like a pro" series. He makes it look so easy which I guess it is once you master it. Jerry's the best ! I want to ride like him ! I, I think, I think I'm in love with Jerry. 😨 PS, my biggest problem with this course ? I'd probably get lost in all those cones.
boy i tell you what, watching these guys makes me feel much better about my day at Ride Like a Pro. good god some of these guys look like they have never been on a bike before.
Some of them probably have never been on a motorcycle before this class. I'm a motor officer and I had a few in my class. They say that the ones that are easier to teach is the one who never ridden a bike before.
I am impressed that all of the trainees did so well handling those particular bikes. Almost all of the riders that did correctly handle of the course did leave marks on the pavement from whatever part of the bike was the lowest. Before you jump on me about that,,, remember,,, Fact: When is it NORMAL to scrape pavement(i.e. Friction, scraping chrome(expense), possibly impacting the very structure of the very FRAGILE nature of a machine that may be required to very shortly, accelerate to a high rate of speed after the frame has been compromised by ground hits. Would you trust your motorcycle to now keep you safe at over a 100MPH after you "had to" scrape the running boards, possibly stressing the frame past high speed safety tolerances. I applaud the officers that put their LIVES in place of machine deficiencies . Gentlemen, ride safe and good luck.
AND... it has crash bars. My brand new BMW has no bars just yet. Dropping it will pull another few $K out of my wallet. 768 lbs. and top heavy (ish) too.
This is some of the hardest training I ever went through. Week one, all training. Monday (week two) test day. Fail, you're out. Pass, funnest job to have. Then I went through Motor Instructor school. Same stress all over again.
Black dude was leaning into the turn and then pulling on the handlebars too much because he was already fighting the bike falling over instead of giving control inputs. I know that feeling, when you've dropped it time and time again and you start losing sight of what it should actually feel like. He had a little success there on his second to last run, they should've let him loop around and run with it. Capture the muscle memory.
i love to see that Grizzlys AhHA moment was when they told him to keep his body up. you dont learn this stuff in 4 mins of trying. keep your head and chin up, your body straight, and look where you WANT to go (not where you are going) and cover the rear brake. (you wont burn the clutch or the brakes at this speed)
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I have a BMW 1200GSA with aftermarket crash bars (that actually protect the valve covers), and so far only dropped it 3 times. Slowly. You learn how to handle certain FU's as you practice this, like, if you stall the engine in a turn, pull in the clutch QUICK, and DON'T STRAIGHTEN THE HANDLEBARS. Keep them in the turn so the momentum is still (kind of) toward the outside of the turn. You may be able to keep it on the wheels. That's what worked for me. Now, that cross (like the one in the video) is no big deal. Working on more complex patterns now. Full-lock turns, while not comfortable, are doable. The real key is - you need just enough speed to allow the bike to steer itself. Too slow is worse than too fast. The guy that kept falling was going WAY too slow.
I think the key is to start out with big circles and gradually make them smaller and smaller. Also a lot of people forget to shift their weight in those tight turns. That butt should be shifting side to side.
Basic throttle, clutch, head, look where your going exercise. Could also help to use body as counterweight in the turns.(Demands more practice thou) :)
The bikes you are riding are heavy and bulky,but,the more you ride the better you will get @ riding this kind of bike. Don't push yourselves get to-know before you push yourself too far. Good luck !
I don't know if it's applicable enough or at all, but what helped me get to the point of doing 18 foot figure 8 circles ( as in each circle that is connected to each other is 18 feet in diameter) is about 3 things working in harmony 1. Vision...turn that head just before you begin that lean into turning 2. proper lean 3 foot peg weight and body up right overall....counter balancing Now..number 3...might not be applicable in that..foward foot controls...well.It's pretty damn hard to implement foot peg counter balancing weight on big cruisers like these I guess. Anyways....No throttle ...no clutch..and yes MANY bikes...-= you MUST use a little throttle ( as in basically hand lock that throttle around an extra 700 to 900 rpm over idle rpms after engine has fully warmed up) in harmony-conjunction with friction zone of that clutch to maintain more than the 4mph really needed to ensure the bike DOESN'T fall over and maintains just enough lean each and every entire turn. For my bike ( cb500x 2019) ..no throttle or clutch is needed...IF i don't want to include it and if I'm not trying to beat a fast time...Just proper/enough weight counter balancing+ enough lean+ vision+turn them bar...95% to full lock if not full lock. Bret Tkacs Motojitsu RideLikeAPro .. Jerry Palladino ( former moto officer NYPD trainer) all are also great channels that can showcase proper techniques of tight u turns. ---- SafetyTN thanks for sharing this.
I'm hoping to transfer to the motor unit of my department after my mandatory stint in patrol is up. But I was told that motor officer school of one of the hardest training in a police officer's career. And I was also told that there's really no way to prepare for it. Now I'm getting nervous.
I've been riding motorcycles for 30 years and i have nowhere near this much maneuvering skill as I ought to have. I need to practice this a lot more this year. I still duck walk the bike if I'm turning around in a road.
I like it u need to know how to handle a big bike if ur going to Ride in dicey situations ..I Rode a 87 Goldwing for years could turn it around on a dime with clutch and gas ..lot of practice..good job guys .Stay safe
That's totally false but for a newbie it keeps them from crashing. Trail braking is a very important skill. A true statement is "Too much front brake when cornering, will cause a crash." Just like too much throttle. The really fast guys are definitely using all kinds of front brake because the rear brake isn't enough and will just lock up.
Impressive training. First in line waiting must have heart pounding.... Why do some, after putting the bike upright walk around the bike to the right side to mount the bike, instead of mounting it from the left, which actually in some cases was closer? Practicing both sides is great, but deliberate choosing the far side? Or is there another reason? Thanks
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These are competent and patient instructors. The kind who remember they have been there and what it was like.
The main points driven home here are:
1) Look! Watch the way out, not what is in front of your wheel.
2) Do not use too much clutch, particularly on tight turns.
3) Use your brake as much as you need to
4) On a heavy bike putting a foot to the ground is counter-productive.
Those are heavy motorcycles. I practiced this for hours and hours before I got the hang of it. I bought my own cones, went to empty parking lots. But once you learn it, it gives you a lot more confidence maneuvering your motorcycle
I keep some tennis balls cut in half in my hard bags for when I land up on a ride and see an empty lot.. time for some cone work.
I suck but can at least do u turns in under 3
Spots and can do the slow cone weave (12’)..
May sound basic but yea these are big bikes (I ride a Road King).
Physics are physics.. size of bike doesn’t change the techniques.
I feel like a better rider due to this practice.
And I really don’t want to be that guy duck walking thru the gas station instead of doing a u turn to get to the open pump
I'm working on the same thing! It's the habits and fear of dropping the bike
I have those same fears, and my bike is only about 500lb; but I know what my plans are for warm weather.
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They may be heavy but with the low center of gravity slow maneuvers are way easier than on something like a concours
Slow maneuvers are the hardest skills to learn on a motorcycle. Props to these officers for their commitments to learn. Back the blue!
These instructors are awesome! They are teaching instead of grilling every time someone drops the bike. They don't panic either, they keep a cool, calm composure which is also great because the student isnt going to freak out or fret or get frustrated. Man, my class was pretty much like training with drill sergeants!
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Man, I thought I was the only one that had problems with tight u-turns, but seeing these State Troopers in training inspires me to keep working at it. Thanks so much for sharing.
Daniel: Practice is necessary to master the skills of safely riding a motorcycle. But, if you practice the wrong things over and over again you are not doing yourself a favor. A two day course will teach you the correct way to maneuver the motorcycle at slow speeds. High speed skills are taught at many of the racetracks around the nation by independent contractors who have met certain qualifications to obtain an "Instructors' Permit". Jerry "Motorman" Palladino has a number of excellent free videos on UA-cam.} I've been riding motorcycles since 1959 and was a motor officer for an agency in California for about 5 years. I'm now 76 years old and still ride. Currently I have a 2017 Road Glide Ultra which is a good 300 lbs heavier than my old ElectraGlide and 400 lbs heavier than my 1960 Harley DuoGlide Police Bike.
Only - they aren't dropping their own $30k bike.
Daniel T Peace me too
@Comanche Umm, no they aren't. Those kids can do stunts but motor officers practice for the unexpected. It takes years of skill and practice. The knuckle head poppin a wheelie just learned a new trick and will probably be dead in five years.
@Comanche Something tells me that you're that knucklehead poppin wheelies. The average kid doesn't have experience. Riding dirt bikes since they were 6 is not real life street experience
Best training video yet. All because of the instructors not being a**holes. They do a great job of 'instructing'. What a concept. I signed up for civilian police training , gonna use their bike. Worth the extra money. Can't wait!
I've worked my way through these maneuvers in 'Ride Like A Pro' by motor officer Jerry 'Motorman' Palladino. Whether it is your own bike or someone else's, these maneuvers are tough, but necessary to be the world's safest riders. Keep up the hard work! This training has saved my life in multiple encounters with negligent drivers in cages.
There could be no worse torture than waiting in the queue and watching others struggle, knowing your turn is approaching. My heart pounds thinking about it.
Duuuuuude! It was so painful when I was being tested!!
It is such a pleasure to see that these are Lords or gods of the people not the servants of the people make mistakes and bust their ass
I instruct new riders through their basic training in the UK,the slalom course is probably as tight as the one in the video,but our pupils are riding 125cc yamaha's not full dress Harley tourers. Full respect to anyone who can manhandle one of these round a tight obstacle course,most Harley riders in the UK struggle to control the bikes in a straight line!! Great work from the instructors.
Great instructors. Patient, never yelling. I don’t even own a motorcycle or even ridden one since I was a teen. Who knows maybe one day. Big respect. Thank you for posting
I've watched a lot of videos , and learn something from everyone , I try and practice a lot of these techniques in a parking lot because we don't have any schools near where I live , and the ones they do have about 100 miles away are really expensive . I wish to thank everyone that's making these videos for helping me be a safer and better rider , and I believe that every rider out there should be watching and practicing at least twice a week till they get it and then should keep up on training as much as possible .. God bless you all ,, and ride safe ..
I think that second guy must have went to the Ride Like a Pro course with Jerry Palladino 'cause he was doing it like a badass!!
This just goes to show no matter how long you've been riding, there always room for improvement. This not easy at all. The second guy has better control of the throttle then the other. That's why they go through this training. This is awesome to watch and learn from. Nice Job!
Wow. Those instructors want people to win, that is real leadership right there.
Maybe but the main problem of most instructors is that they surprise the students by shouting out instructions like 'turn your head', 'watch out' etc. Which makes students do wrong movements and fail. They should let students make the faults during maneuver without any comments. And after the maneuver is done discuss all the errors.
What? A bag of sweets?
Learning to slip the clutch while applying the rear/front brake.
I taught my honey to ride at age 54. Now 58. I am 61. She has a sportster and me a softail. We watched this video and she caught mistakes before it happened.
Me riding since I am 11 but mentally I am 27.
I am never growing old
Never to old to ride. My wife and I are 64, she is, over g to the second stage for her motor license this month. Looking forward to getting back in the saddle
I went through that same school with TLETA back in 2009, it was similar in terms of learning the combination of throttle, clutch, and rear brake along with head and eyes. About day 3 to day 5 it clicks, you figure out the bike, what it will do and you figure out your comfort in doing it. That exercise in the video is called the intersection and it uses about all the skills you need. Once you master that you can do about anything. Also for general rule of thumb you need a 9’ turn radius. So you should be able to do a u turn in 18’ or on a two lane road without putting down your foot or stopping. Motor Officer School is the hardest but most fun training I’ve had in law enforcement.
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I plan on going to the Yonkers school many say its the best
@@charlievelez3510 It can be done.
@@nickgee7145 thank you. I will be getting my sport bike in a few months. Have to get my gear 1st, test some bikes out (never owned one nor ridden one) and bam!
I took this course when I bought a Harley, it was the best thing I did. It has saved my life more than once.
Learned a lot of tips by the instructors. Getting to know the feel of your bike. Im not a police officer but did purchase a 1997 Police FLHTPI bike last year. My goal is to listen and watch these videos to become a better rider.
Wow I have a new perspective on how much work it is to be a motorcycle cop. They always seem to look so skilled now I see why. The instructors seem to really have a great temperament and positive help. Much respect.
I think the best lesson here is that if you fall or drop the bike, pick it up, dust yourself off and try again.
What is important is that they let them fail and that is Ok.
Theres a saying I learned saying a guy with a clean bike is a good rider. A guy with a scuffed bike is a better rider. I guess the take away is you fall but you learn from your mistakes and get better. If you dont ever drop or fall off your bike, you will never know the absolute limit of yourself and the bike. **not saying go to go crash your bike at highway speeds though.**
@@hyunki0510 Better to crash/drop the bike while practicing life-saving maneuvers than to drop/crash the bike on the road, in an actual, dangerous traffic situation.
that is painful motion
nope. moral of story is if you want to evade the police, make a u turn because they'll drop bike trying to catch you
Great video. I've been riding over 50 years and it takes great skill to master maneuvers and control the bike. I have a lot of admiration for what you do and your dedication. Be safe
The skills that you learn at Police Motorcycle School will live with you to the last day you ride. you will have a edge on any biker. Be Cool and Ride Safe.
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I've seen some these cops fly thru these courses with these huge heavy bikes. Live to see them on a sports bike. Be crazy
@@QSpeedRacer Not really. Everyone has a different skill set
@@adarshkeswani2319 why did I think I heard you weren't supposed to use brakes in part of the exercise?
Oh the good old days. Gotta drag that rear brake. Helps keep you up right. Setting the throttle and feathering the clutch all at the same time takes a lot of practice. Thank goodness for patient instructors👍🏼
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These guys need the Motor Man Jerry - best teacher for making tight turns using the Friction Zone and Don't Look Down - Snap That Head To Look Where The Bike Is Going Next
Jerry The Motor Man - I've learned an awful lot from that fella - a Real Pro !
The motor man is great
Jimmers Russell I just thought I was a rider until I started watching motoman..Now I'm doing this!
Riding like PRO 😄
Years ago my dad was treasurer of The Tulsa Ramblers.Held their own races,etc. One guy got a cop job(good dude,good racer) so he got paid to ride his HARLEY and throw real assholes off the road!
Jimmers Russell 👍🏼👍🏼 for the Motoman!
I feel all of these men are brave motorcycle riders. I would not judge any of them. I have never even attempted this. I am very impressed and the courage each man has to keep trying. Very good video thanks for sharing. Ride Safe
There is a vid of a 16 yr old girl riding a police bike like a champ...I have this same bike..they are so well balanced very easy to ride...of coarse that's not without saying l've dumped mine a few times...Sometimes it just can't be avoided...
@@chriskowalski7038 Anyone can dump a bike. None of us want to. But learning slow speed maneuvers will always help. Ride Safe
You can learn this stuff in about 5 hours. Take a class...be the best $150 you ever spend.
I crossed the law years ago and paid the price, but man do I love all you LEOS ! thank you all for what you do day in day out.
The best part is ro be humble and accept that you drop before you master
Muscle memory! Where you look is where you will go. Eyes to the horizon and getting your head around. Don’t put your foot down but if you do, let the motor go down and step away. These ( and many ) other things I learned during motor training and continued to train through my years as a Mary unit..loved every minute of it!!
It’s been over 25 years since my first couple of days of motor school. Wow! Seems like yesterday, but a humbling experience to say the least.
You think you knew how to ride a motorcycle and you find out real quick, you didn’t.
Wouldn’t trade those days for nothing and now over 2 decades later, I’m teaching it.
Ride Like a Pro-NC
You're an inspiration sir!
This is one of the best vids! I laughed sometimes but then I remembered how hard it was for me to go through the advance motorcycle safety course at Ft. Carson on my 1979 Gold Wing. This course is much harder. Kudos to all the troopers for hanging in there and getting it done!
Turning like this is harder than it looks.
Two things that help me is looking where I'm turning, and using the clutch and rear brake instead of the throttle. It might be a bad habit, but I eliminate the throttle by pulsing it.
I also find I'm more timid on a bike that I'm not familiar with because of the clutche's slip point being different and strange. I bet some of these riders are struggling with an unfamiliar clutch and brake.
Excellent explanation. Some people say the clutch is your friend but also the rear brake stops the bike from gaining momentum .
That second guy knows what the hell hes doing.
It's motivating to see the officers who are struggling improve. The instructors are great; easy going and they talk to the students not at them.✌🏽
Good instructors, good students too. The two must work in sync with one another. The student must listen and DO as instructed. This brings out the best in an instructor. As soon as you DO as instructed, the instructor has a desire to give you more to absorb/learn, you're pulling out the best in them.
Good training, pivot at the waist to remain upright as you lean the bike, look to where you want to go, find that balance of throttle, clutch (slip), and rear brake application to take advantage of the gyroscopic affect within the bike's engine/wheels. Listen to the RPMs. Seeing the lines you need to take, to put the apex of a given turn where you can make best use of it helps. This is why the instructors were coaching to go wide before the lean/turn.
The officer who was struggling, is still working through the understanding of using the gyroscopic affect, balance of throttle/clutch/rear brake to enable him to lean the bike at slow speed without spilling. Working throttle/rear brake while keeping the clutch slippage at the given RPM (1500 is what I heard) will help you to speed up/slow down as needed.
The set-up of the bike is important as well. Slightly taller in the ass-end will lighten the feel of the bike at slow speed. Lower rear shocks (than stock) make the bike feel heavier and more sluggish at the same task
Another variable an instructor has to become aware of, is whether the trainee is in need of chiropractic care (adjustment of the head in relation to the first cervical vertebra). If this is out of adjustment, the whole body tries to compensate for the out of balance state. Equilibrium can be affected.
Hats off to all who participated in the making of this video.
Great job guys, even the ones that dropped theirs. It's all part of training and you'll definitely come out better in the end. THP!!!
There are two types of riders. Those that have fallen and those that will fall. I’m happen to belong to both groups. Practice makes perfect. You have to ride on the edge and occasionally you fall off.
I love watching these State Troopers drop their bikes. It doesn’t make feel bad when I dropped mine doing the same exercises.
Wow ,most police departments are happy when they have deputies that know how to read and write and don't throw a tantrum when they pullover grandma for doing 6 over. These guys have bikes without training wheels. Respect....
I could watch this for hours, awesome instructors, so patient and encouraging, that 2nd rider just nailed it every time. Those Harleys are big heavy powerful bikes, doing those tight turns are extremely difficult. I wouldn't even be able to do it on my Sportster.
I've got a friend who was a motorcycle officer for CHP for 14 years, man that guy can do anything on a motorcycle.
this video is extremely helpful I just bought my first motorcycle and still need to learn how to ride watching this officers go thru the paces on a big bike explains a lot of what I've have to learn before I take it for a ride and go take my riding course to get my dl ps my bike is a 00 HD superglide keep posting videos like this I'm not going out riding and put myself or anyone else in danger
Nothing but respect for every one of these men. They're already doing a dangerous job as troopers. Now they're training to put themselves at even more risk...all in the name of protecting the public. My helmet is off to each of them.
Anyone who can ride half a ton of two wheeled tractor round the space of a bathroom and stay on gets respect!
There are 2 kinds of riders. Those that have dropped their bike and those that will drop their bike. You are not alone. I participate with a drill team and having taken several riding courses including one like this with the Oklahoma troopers. I can ride that course (we call it the "cross") because of what they taught me. Great class right there. TN is doing it right.
That floor boards scraping is such a psych job in the beginning.LOL ! Keep up the great work
I remember the first time I scraped my floor boards. Was about 1 month into riding. Scared the crap out of me. Now I scrape it through small round abouts and flying through the twisty hills. I love the sound. Probably freaks anyone else who hears it right out though
They are all good drivers. This test shows how difficult is manoeuvring at low speeds
What nobody is failing to mention, is the speed that is required to pull these maneuvers off. If you ride too slow, you fall over if you ride too fast, you won’t make the turn.
I love the sound of scrapping foot pads.
What people seem to be missing is that you've GOT to have power going to that back wheel, or you'll dump it. Keep that throttle on, and use the clutch and rear brake to control the speed. It took me a while to learn that, too !!
This course is a real blast! Know how to use clutch control (friction zone) and look where you want to go (turn that head and those eyes), and the rest is a motorcycle playground. Good training video.
Some good riding in this video ... everyone can benefit from training, from folks not so comfy on a big bike to more experienced riders. I could watch videos like these all day long: I love the tippy-tappy noises of the big twins. 🎶 to my ears. Ride safe, motor officers !!
I love the Road King Police. It's my favorite HD.
That is a tough course. I have work to do. The good guys have really inspired me because now I know it can be done.
I'm a new rider practicing for my motorcycle skill test in CA. One thing I figured out by just practicing in the parking lot is that: to turn a heavy bike I need to turn with my body. First I have to look in the direction I want to turn, and then I shift my body weight by pushing with my feet and my hips, which will in turn lean the bike, the handle bar would then follow to keep the balance. If I just turn the handle bar it would be too late. In the cones swerve drill, I will have to shift my weight to stand the bike up when I to pass between the cones and then lean the other direction while turning. This is why it helps to not stare at the cone in front of you but look far down the line of cones, it gives you a better sense of your balance and how the bike is leaning. Also when turning (circle ride basically), two things affect your turn radius: your weight, and speed. If you shift your body weight outside of the circle you go wide, if you shift your weight inside the circle you go tight, if you go faster, you go wide, and if you go slower you go tighter. Therefore if you want to right faster while keeping the same turn radius you need to shift your weight more inside and lean the bike more. I found it possible to keep ride a very tight circle with clutch fully out just by manipulating the lean angle of the bike by carefully shifting my body weight around. And the clutch, throttle and rear brake just gives you more tools to control your speed.
"For sale.... lightly used police bikes".. lol
Never been dropped, garage kept
Jerry "Motorman" Palladino shows how it's done in his "Ride like a pro" series. He makes it look so easy which I guess it is once you master it. Jerry's the best !
I want to ride like him ! I, I think, I think I'm in love with Jerry. 😨
PS, my biggest problem with this course ? I'd probably get lost in all those cones.
boy i tell you what, watching these guys makes me feel much better about my day at Ride Like a Pro. good god some of these guys look like they have never been on a bike before.
Some of them probably have never been on a motorcycle before this class. I'm a motor officer and I had a few in my class. They say that the ones that are easier to teach is the one who never ridden a bike before.
Is there a point where they just give up on you and fail you from the class? These instructors are super patient and helpful
I am impressed that all of the trainees did so well handling those particular bikes. Almost all of the riders that did correctly handle of the course did leave marks on the pavement from whatever part of the bike was the lowest. Before you jump on me about that,,, remember,,, Fact: When is it NORMAL to scrape pavement(i.e. Friction, scraping chrome(expense), possibly impacting the very structure of the very FRAGILE nature of a machine that may be required to very shortly, accelerate to a high rate of speed after the frame has been compromised by ground hits. Would you trust your motorcycle to now keep you safe at over a 100MPH after you "had to" scrape the running boards, possibly stressing the frame past high speed safety tolerances.
I applaud the officers that put their LIVES in place of machine deficiencies . Gentlemen, ride safe and good luck.
Much easier when the bike isn’t yours
AND... it has crash bars.
My brand new BMW has no bars just yet. Dropping it will pull another few $K out of my wallet. 768 lbs. and top heavy (ish) too.
I ain't scraping mine 🤗
@@Dettdu I’m afraid of dropping mine .I got that HOTROD RED FLAKE ,SO FORGET THAT .
@@Dettdu if you ain't scraping pegs...you aint riding.
Makes you think as many dumps these guys are having, they haven't got a lor of mc experience. These maneuvers have to be learned...it isn't easy.
SUPER.
СУПЕР.
Вот что значит учеба служба и работа - профессионализм .
Все четко - приятно смотреть.
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This is some of the hardest training I ever went through. Week one, all training. Monday (week two) test day. Fail, you're out. Pass, funnest job to have. Then I went through Motor Instructor school. Same stress all over again.
Agreed. Heavy bikes. But perfectly balanced. Only variable is the Rider! These Troopers Are great!
An incredible look at how difficult this stuff really is!
OUCH!! Those are some nice bikes to scrape up. Do like they do in Florida and tape some pads on them because you know they’re going to fall over.
So many cones, I could see why some of these guys have a hard time looking where they want to go... Thanks for posting!
absolutely
The beauty of v twins, the torque that you need is all there just off idle.
Black dude was leaning into the turn and then pulling on the handlebars too much because he was already fighting the bike falling over instead of giving control inputs. I know that feeling, when you've dropped it time and time again and you start losing sight of what it should actually feel like.
He had a little success there on his second to last run, they should've let him loop around and run with it. Capture the muscle memory.
i love to see that Grizzlys AhHA moment was when they told him to keep his body up. you dont learn this stuff in 4 mins of trying. keep your head and chin up, your body straight, and look where you WANT to go (not where you are going) and cover the rear brake. (you wont burn the clutch or the brakes at this speed)
Great course and instructors. I hope there’s training like this out there we can join.
Precisa muito treino e confiança....para executar esses obstáculos. Parabéns a todos pela perseverança...más poucos conseguem !!! Abs brother 😎🏍🏍🏍
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We usually only see the result of the training. This shows how difficult it is! This also shows the the mental toughness to keep at it .
I have a BMW 1200GSA with aftermarket crash bars (that actually protect the valve covers), and so far only dropped it 3 times. Slowly.
You learn how to handle certain FU's as you practice this, like, if you stall the engine in a turn, pull in the clutch QUICK, and DON'T STRAIGHTEN THE HANDLEBARS. Keep them in the turn so the momentum is still (kind of) toward the outside of the turn. You may be able to keep it on the wheels. That's what worked for me. Now, that cross (like the one in the video) is no big deal. Working on more complex patterns now. Full-lock turns, while not comfortable, are doable.
The real key is - you need just enough speed to allow the bike to steer itself. Too slow is worse than too fast. The guy that kept falling was going WAY too slow.
Tax payer here. Careful with my bike rookies.
lower gear helps work the clutch and look for the point that you need to go..good instructors
Lean it but stay up right. Look where you are going.
Thank you!
You sir are AWESOME instructors!!! Salute!
Wow, American Instructors are totally professional, Thank you for sharing this video.
I think the key is to start out with big circles and gradually make them smaller and smaller. Also a lot of people forget to shift their weight in those tight turns. That butt should be shifting side to side.
Basic throttle, clutch, head, look where your going exercise. Could also help to use body as counterweight in the turns.(Demands more practice thou) :)
My man Grizzly is a beast on this course...feathering the throttle real slick
I have been practicing lately so with this video and their instructions it's very helpful.
The bikes you are riding are heavy and bulky,but,the more you ride the better you will get @ riding this kind of bike. Don't push yourselves get to-know before you push yourself too far. Good luck !
I learnt so much just watching these guys
I don't know if it's applicable enough or at all, but what helped me get to the point of doing 18 foot figure 8 circles ( as in each circle that is connected to each other is 18 feet in diameter) is about 3 things working in harmony
1. Vision...turn that head just before you begin that lean into turning
2. proper lean
3 foot peg weight and body up right overall....counter balancing
Now..number 3...might not be applicable in that..foward foot controls...well.It's pretty damn hard to implement foot peg counter balancing weight on big cruisers like these I guess.
Anyways....No throttle ...no clutch..and yes MANY bikes...-= you MUST use a little throttle ( as in basically hand lock that throttle around an extra 700 to 900 rpm over idle rpms after engine has fully warmed up) in harmony-conjunction with friction zone of that clutch to maintain more than the 4mph really needed to ensure the bike DOESN'T fall over and maintains just enough lean each and every entire turn.
For my bike ( cb500x 2019) ..no throttle or clutch is needed...IF i don't want to include it and if I'm not trying to beat a fast time...Just proper/enough weight counter balancing+ enough lean+ vision+turn them bar...95% to full lock if not full lock.
Bret Tkacs
Motojitsu
RideLikeAPro .. Jerry Palladino ( former moto officer NYPD trainer)
all are also great channels that can showcase proper techniques of tight u turns.
---- SafetyTN thanks for sharing this.
The same reason there should not be semi-truck driving schools...case in point. Some people are just not cut out for certain activities.
Setting incapable people up for dangerous if not fatal future circumstances.
May I use some scenes from this video in one of my youtube videos? I'll be sure to link to this video.
Thanks in advance
Jerry Motorman Palladino
I'm hoping to transfer to the motor unit of my department after my mandatory stint in patrol is up. But I was told that motor officer school of one of the hardest training in a police officer's career. And I was also told that there's really no way to prepare for it. Now I'm getting nervous.
The men waiting their turn must be trembling with fear 😅😁😂
The officer after the African-American officer is the best, very fluid in his turns!
How heavy is the bikes they train with
Excellent instructors, thanks for sharing.
Great teachers and these cops are good riders to maneuver these large, heavy bikes.
It takes time, I never tried this on a big bike ,would love to someday.. Some makes this look easy and i know it is not,, Great job guys
I've been riding motorcycles for 30 years and i have nowhere near this much maneuvering skill as I ought to have. I need to practice this a lot more this year. I still duck walk the bike if I'm turning around in a road.
I like it u need to know how to handle a big bike if ur going to Ride in dicey situations ..I Rode a 87 Goldwing for years could turn it around on a dime with clutch and gas ..lot of practice..good job guys .Stay safe
“Application of Front brakes when the front wheel is not straight”: Biggest receipe for a crash!
That's totally false but for a newbie it keeps them from crashing. Trail braking is a very important skill.
A true statement is "Too much front brake when cornering, will cause a crash." Just like too much throttle. The really fast guys are definitely using all kinds of front brake because the rear brake isn't enough and will just lock up.
Impressive training. First in line waiting must have heart pounding....
Why do some, after putting the bike upright walk around the bike to the right side to mount the bike, instead of mounting it from the left, which actually in some cases was closer? Practicing both sides is great, but deliberate choosing the far side? Or is there another reason? Thanks
@jamesbarrett918 Nice! Great list. Thanks for sharing. Learning all the time
God bless these Troopers, keep them safe!
It just takes time and a lot of drops before it kicks in. 😁 Be safe guys.
Cool! But why rider take a sit on bike from right side not from left?