How To Do Perfect U Turns Every time - MiniTip Mondays
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Performing perfect u turns is tricky. Performing perfect u turns every time you ride a bike is even trickier. When the variables increase your ability to react and control your bike quickly and efficiently changes everything. For adventure riding your skills have to be incredibly adaptable and allow you to do u turns on the side of an Italian hill or in the car park of Starbucks.
Hopefully this Minitip Monday lays those skills out in detail for you and makes riding a motorcycle a little easier and lot more fun. - Розваги
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lots of folks like me been riding 30+ years and still just have basic skills mainly because I'm just do daily street riding and odd day out. if you don't practice a skill and put outside outside your comfort zone you will never learn.
I went to a car park yesterday to practice a u turn. I have never done a full lock u turn. Surprisingly I felt very true wobbly, foot on the ground a lot and my hands when tired from all the tensing up.
20mins and it started to come together but lots more practice needed.
Thanks!
After almost 50 years of riding, I’m still committed to learning, developing, and polishing my riding skills and I search out videos like this one for that purpose. I’ve seen a number of these speedy hero cop type u-turn videos lately and I feel that I ‘should be able to’ do these too so I’ve become a little conflicted about the best way to do tight turns. But your video has reminded me that low speed and high speed turns have totally different approaches and skill sets, and that the slow u-turn not only has it’s place, but will work in far more circumstances. So in a way your video has kinda ‘given me permission’ to stick with how I wanna do it. So thank you. Even after riding for almost 50 years I still go to car parks to practice and refine these skills, but just as importantly I use every chance out on the road, to keep these skills as fresh as I can. Loved your precise and carefully worded video. Newbies listen up; this advice is worth gold!! Phil Akl NZ.
What an awesome comment! So I also think that the better you are this type of u-turn, the easier the full lock, 'police' style u-turn becomes.
When you're skill full with your slow speed control you can deal with making mistakes and changing parameters and so when you try a different way it's easier to figure out 🙂
Great comment, I have the same thoughts as you. Since I ride 95% of the time 2 up this is the way I also U-turn. I also practice every chance I get. The only thing not mentioned here is learning to do full lock slow speed turns, this is very helpful out on the trail when I don't want to make my pillion get off the bike.
Thank you.... you confirmed that 👌🏻🙂
I've had instructors insist that I pretty much stare into space and control my speed in a U-turn by using the rear brake. I just can't do that - not being able to see where you want to be in the next few seconds never made sense to me. While I've made the turns without falling, it's not been a great experience so I worked out to do what you suggested except I don't move my butt on the seat so I'll go and try that next ride. Thanks.
Haha you are not good enough! I dont need any practice anymore. Me > you
Many thanks for "if you muck it up it's no big deal"! U turns scare me unreasonably and the pressure to "get it right" is part of that.
Unless you are in your Mod 1 test.
I’m sold, you covered the procedure very clearly.
The biggest thing for me is mindset. Being able to keep myself calm, control my emotions, and don’t freak out. I had a 12 year break from riding and am just getting back into it. It’s like learning to ride all over again.
Yup. I think a huge part is being okay with being a beginner too. If you can find a place where enjoy it regardless of being good that's awesome.
Hey...welcome back to riding then :) Just case this next part is applicable....Don't be afraid to take baby steps on any part of slow speed parking lot drills
Motojitsu
RideLikeAPro
Space them cones out even more than these guys do ( such as the White Belt drills from Greg aka Fast Eddie in Motojitsu). They're not as easy as they make them look until you've practice them enough.
"Shut up and Practice" xD Cheers to ya.
Very important skillset. Use of both brakes, body balance, stance, good clutch feeling will make the difference in tricky maneuvers or just ease handling everywhere. I remember a path where not had a 20-24° climb in Italy around Varese. Streets were a little over 2m wide and turns had a radius a hardly more than two meter and were falling to the inside. Stopping on a turn left without putting your weight to the outside so you could decide if you make that turn in one go or stop with the foot to the outside raised part of the corner... Felt just brilliant. A thing I trained which brought me there was doing figure 8 on parking lot from lock to lock. Around two half tennis balls distance ~ 3m between them.
One of the best explanation ive watched. Good job
A tip I learned when training for my license in France is in addition to two-finger clutch control, use the other two fingers as a counter control to the two outside fingers - this increases the tactile response and the amount of tight control you get over the clutch. I would also advise against use of the front brake in any sort of turning maneuver and use the rear brake only - at least at the start as for any non-experienced rider, use of the front brake during a slow turn is way more likely to do more harm than good.
I also find the rear brake works best for me generally but for some odd reason occasionally i prefer to "play" with the front brake a little!
Using the front brake in a tight turn will cause the bike to dive. Back brake gives one ultimate control over the speed as it can be applied finely.
@@runeveryday1069
Easy Mr Run Everyday: place your index and third finger at the front of the clutch lever, and the fourth and pinky finger
on the inside of the clutch lever. Think of it as pulling with the index and third finger, while pushing the lever with your fourth and pinky. Is that a little clearer?
@@aloisius4188 Yes. I think I do it unconsciously.
I disagree. Ideally, one's feet will never touch the ground, but since we aren't perfect, at least on the rare occasion, a foot is going down. If that happens to be the right foot, then the ability to brake is gone.
Awesome thanks for this video. I can now u turn with a lot more confidence knowing that it can be done slowly and its ok if I don't get all the way around and need to stop and back up. Good one!!!
You made some great points and addressed all the key factors, it did seem very technical with your choice of words, maybe that is how the younger generations are wanting to hear explainations, however for me I've been riding motorized 2 wheel vehicles for about 50 years, and the reason I put that way is I started on a home built mini bike and progressed up with all different kinds of motorcycles, dirt, street, enduro, ect... I currently ride a HD Road King and a HD Sportster 1200 and the simple way I learned "slow speed" u-turns was practicing in a parking lot. Started with getting use to using the clutch with slight pressure on the rear brake, and the reason I choose the rear brake is that using the front one while going slow is more likely to #1 change the direction and degree of how far the handle bars are turn too quickly, which will cause the bike to fall over, #2, you even mentioned it in your video when you explain why you only use two fingers on the clutch, because out of fear you want to grab hold of something and if that "something" is the front brake the bike is going to fall over, so by keeping slight pressure on the rear brake allows you use the "friction zone" of the clutch to keep the bike moving. It's normally only when the bikes momentum is halted at slow speeds that you will drop the bike. So find a parking lot to practice in and start first by going in a straight line at what would be a fast walking speed 4 to 6 mph, do this by using the clutches "friction zone" and the rear brake, once you're comfortable with that use the painted car parking spaces to start practicing u-turns, most people can do a turn within 18 to 24 feet, which is approximately 2 car parking spaces without having to put a foot down, just continue to practice that a get comfortable turning the handle bars and leaning an you'll soon be able to make those turns tighter and tighter, and when you get really proficient at using the clutch and the frictions on you won't even have to use your back brake at all. Good luck to everyone and be safe and watch out for everybody because nobody's watching out for you when you are on your bike.
Thanks Mark for your thoughts. I totally agree. I'm about your age and have just ordered a Pan America in addition to my fleet consisting of a Fat Boy S and a FLHP. Regards from Switzerland.
@@ddb345for whatever the reason is people seem to want to make things more difficult than what it normally is. I have always been about the old saying KISS keep it simple stupid...lol ... hope you have many miles of safe and enjoyable riding in the future, all I wish for anyone is to be able to increase your skill at riding and make were any and all are able to enjoy this sport which I love so much......
Thank you, great video so I'll get out & start practicing
Brilliantly explained, great job.
A fine tutorial. There are always minor variations or techniques one can add to the tool box, but your offering here was quite good. I am of the opinion that there's nothing better than a few years of dirt bike riding to develop techniques that can cross over into a lifetime of safe street riding. If one is setting out to learn riding from the start, a smaller cc dual sport bike used regularly on the trails can yield excellent skills for managing maneuvers required for survival on the street. Thanks for your work here.
very nice vid and explanations. I just figured in a nice course by last year. That by standing up, I was able to turn even slower and on also a smaller circle then by sitting on the bike. Of course, with no heavy load on the bike. Keep the nice work up. Cheers from Switzerland.
U-turns are absolutely fear-situations for beginners. Nice done!
For sure they are. Thanks!
Watching videos like this make me happy I made the progression from pedal bikes, to trail and dirt bikes, before moving to street.
It gives you a better skill base for sure!
Good job. Thank you. I’ve seen a lot of Jerry Palladino vids (all high grip maneuvers) and, while they’re valid and everyone should see them, yours gives a broader perspective.
Well Done!!!....staying in the friction zone helps immeasurably
Pure gold, thanks mate.
This is just magnificent! Very well covered. I am going to try a few of the skills and build on what I already have. I am still a learner hough I have been riding for the 2 - 3 years. Thank you for a very well presented video, demonstrations and explanations. Keep it up.
I am still a learner although I have been riding for 60 years. i already been practicing this u-turn - top vid
The one or two finger clutch has always worked for me, the same for the front brake, I'm a big fan of shortie levers.
It's easy enough to lock the front with one finger, still have control of the throttle and have a solid grip on the bar, even on a 750lb Harley.
Great vid BTW, subbed.
Amazing explanation with emphasis on details with a nice demonstration 💯
Very well explained, free advice, for a beginner like me is gold. Thank you
Thanks for that . Very well explained
Great reminder of basic techniques again. Many thanks.
Thanks for the tips and advice.
absolutely love the tutorial!👍🏼
You make good tutorials 👍thank you - makes me Motivation to train !
Thanks Thomas!
Excellent point at the 6-minute mark on 'counter weighing', I forgot this last summer and dumped the bike, such a crucial step and SOOOO important. Good job for mentioning it!
It as very good. Thanks for the slow motion clips also.
I'm practicing this now on my new Rebel 1100cc Honda in the manual mode and it worked for me every time. Great video. Hope to see more from you. Greetings from the US.
great video! great advice! this is a massively important skill to have regardless of what you ride! nice one!! :)
Your videos are always outstanding! They are clear, very easy to understand and the information makes sense to me. This video was no exception. I always look forward to Mini Tip Monday! Thank you!
Thanks for the kind words and for watching Deanna 🙂
Excellent, intelligent explanation and very helpful. Thanks from Australia.
bum to the outside of the saddle - brilliant! that's the key!
Thank you...this is much easier to understand...
Lell’s advice from 2:50 I believe is critical. My experience is that smooth and continuous use of power all the way through the turn is a crucial skill.
Thank you! Well done!
Great video, thank you for this.
Excellent job on this!!!!
Wow, Great Video. Excellent details; I'm a competent driver but your tips much appreciated.
Good explanation - I fully underline this procedure
I've been having problems doing u-turns on my GSA. I'll give these tips a try and see how it works out.
I went to practice just after watching this video. I only implemented his version of how to “look” when doing a U turn, as a result my U turns and figure 8s were tighter than ever before. This was on a V Star 1100.
Thank you!
So many slow-skill videos out there but you've presented the best one I can find. Fantastically explained and demonstrated, and to also show dropping the bike a couple of times demonstrates how that's part of the learning process - and it's ok! The crash bars on the GSA are there for a reason, but I still don't want to scratch them up, so I've wrapped a bit of corrugated plastic hose around the parts that rest on the ground if it goes over, now I don't care if I drop the bike when I'm practicing, I just learn from it and get to practice picking it up again! Fantastic video, thank you!
Great explanation , thanks!
This is the best tutorial I’ve seen on this subject. Thanks!
Wow, thanks!
Well presented vid mate and one of the best on the subject. Every bike riding technique is easily understood on YT but seldom replayed accurately in real life so practice, practice and more practice. The only way to gain confidence and cement muscle memory. I think a perfectly executed U turn on a big GS is a sight to behold especially with an audience waiting for you to cock it up. 10 mins in a parking lot is all you need but performed regularly. Thanks for posting....
good technique. thanks a lot!
all makes good sense. Thank you.
THANKS AWESOME TIPS
Well done, articulated and cut really well. I understood every word. Thanks for your effort. Many people will benefit from your lesson. I subscribed and look forward to your next tip. StayUpOn2 Mate. ✌️😎🇨🇱
Excellent advice!!
I liked this vid and many of your others. Thanks.
Always good to learn alternatives. Becoming familiar with your controls inputs, effects and friction points is much more important than been told not to use front brake. The both brakes work depending on situation appeals to me much more so. Thank you sir
Absolutely! Everything can work if you know why it doesn't work!
Thank you sir
It's great experience 😊
Thanks for making this video. This is exactly what I have been looking for :)
Excellent advice
This is the best U turn video I've seen. I'm sharing it! Thanks so much.
Thanks!
Great advise! Thank you very much.
That was probably the best explanation I've heard in the U turn technique...good job...
Thanks!
Well Llel, what a great instructional video. Well structured with the right amount of information and with appropriate terminology. I'm a police trained rider (now retired - yippee!) and I've got to say that any rider - novice or 'experienced' can take a lot from this footage and practice, practice and practice. Well done mate - keep up the good work.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the kind words!
Agree completely with Aunty Mary below. Probably the best explanation for how to do a U-turn I've heard.
Thanks for the tips!
Welcome!
Well explained!
I just recently started riding myself, already dropped the bike twice trying to do low speed u-turns. Your video was a solid break down of information and I believe will help me out alot in practice. Thank you for breaking it down to this level.
I hope it helps. 🙏 Don't worry about falling off from time to time. It happens 😊
Great video, many thanks! It helps a lot. 🙂
Well composed vid and great way to share those tips! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
that was awesome thanks from a learner rider. have subbed x
great video, even at 68, I am still learning the different characteristics of each bike. My teacher in 1970, (one of Stirling Moss mechanics, advised me to master riding and balancing at very slow speed, this has worked for me, balance is important, clutch slipping is also great. awesome info
Exactly.
The body position was like a light turning on. Many thanks. 👍🏻👊🏻
Really nice video thanks
Yes, thanks for the informative tutorial. It was very helpful.
I would add these tips: practice, practice, practice, and practice left & right handed turns equally.
Happy Trails
I've only just reached my full bike licence and have only been riding my Honda CBR600 for a few months. This video is absolutely first class tuition on a subject that seems taboo amongst a good number of experienced riders, especially sports bike riders. I don't understand why because I think this is a critical skill to have. Thankyou for a terrific vid and clear instruction. 😀👍✌️
Glad it helped!
Beautiful place, gorgeous motorbike and very good and helpful explanation!!
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching!
Good video! Thank you 😊
Brilliant, I'm a learner and this tutorial is just what I needed.
Glad it was helpful!
Llel thanks for this video I have practice it till I I master I master it truly the safest way to do it a great skill to have .I practice almost every day .thanks .
Well said. Excellent, as always.
Thanks Brad. Appreciated 🙂
This is the first u-turn/sharp turn video I've come across that accepts the fact that not all roads are spotless. Every other ones shows a person practicing on a super clean parking lot or road. I live in a state where it snows a lot and I have not found an empty parking lot that doesn't have sand all over it, even in the summer time.
Thanks fella.
I'll go practice. 😊
Nice control.
Excellent tutorial, cheers !
Glad it was helpful!
Covered all the bases. Great job!
Thank you! Cheers!
Excellent stuff. I’m not bad at this, but there’s still a lot to learn in here and stuff to go practice. One thing I’d add is that for road use there’s a critical observation stage which you don’t really cover. Yes, you assess the terrain and where you’ll be turning, but before that you need to assess other traffic and hazards. Trying to check if there’s something coming up behind as you start the turn is hard and wrecks all that careful vision placement you stress. If you try to look over a shoulder at the commencement of a turn it can throw the whole thing. Need to get that done before and choose a place where it’s safe and you have time to do the turn as you need to, not being rushed because another vehicle appears unexpectedly etc. Other example…If you’re turning, is a pedestrian going to step off pavement in front of you causing you to brake? They haven’t seen, anticipated you turning or are just, well, you know, a 2021 pedestrian.
great explanation - thanks a lot 👍
No problem. Thanks for watching!
Liel,,, this is an excellent video,, the best video for u-turn i hae seen,,,thank you,,, you explain in deep details,,,and not boring,,,and i like your humility,,,I will watch more of your videos,,, take care !
Thank you for the excellent video. Detailed but concise. Excellent use of graphics. Nice aerial view to better show the big picture perspective. Outstanding pedagogy.
Thank you!
Yet another great video. I've found using a little rear brake to be useful but not always necessary.
Agreed
I am missing one very convenient and often overlooked technique. Next to using the clutch + throttle to control the bike at slow speeds, add some rear brake. What this does is keep the rear chain in tension, making the power delivery much much smoother, plus being able to give even finer control of the bike's speed.
what if you have a shaft drive?
@@andywiggens1069 Shaft drives (and the gearbox) have backlash as well, but its probably orders of magnitude smaller than a chain.
I have no experience with shaft drive, but you can probably try it out, and see if it helps. At the very least it gives you another input to control and modulate the speed.
@@tHaH4x0r no worries brother.....I have 54 years of 2 wheels under me....I'm just a smart ass old fart...BUt once you try shaft drive you'll never want to go back to chain drive....especially if your putting in some long miles.
Absolutely fanastic..thank you.
You're welcome!
Great advice. This will save lives! Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
really appreciated the way you explained. super the tip about body position:-)
Glad it was helpful!
great video and wonderful reminders practice practice
Thanks Dolly!
I love this video now understand clutch or break how you properly manipulate. As first time rider or beginners some time we are able to use the clutch but understanding how it works.
On this video ilike exact this details the video . This video most detail I watched
one of the best things is to preload the motor while using the friction zone, slightly drag your rear brake, which will make you more stable and you should be able to drag peg almost under 10mps and over 5MPH for U-Turns.
I'm shocked he doesn't focus on using the rear brake so you can lean more while in the U-turn
good video overall!
Firstly I was surprised at the whole tutorial. Don't people learn this in driving school? I was taught clutch (and rear brake) control for confident tight turns when I got my license in Japan. Now I ride a bigger bike with an automatic clutch, the rear brake is absolutely essential for proper control at slow speeds.
Heck yes. Drag that rear brake to increase the power input control. And counter balance HARD to push that bike over and tighten the turn angle👍
Not much of a school in the US really.
Very clear, very concise well done
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for helping us all oit's all out 40 years of riding on the road it's odd it's a challenge to ride off road now
Exquisite video 🤌🏾
Excellent explanation, will practise myself.
You can do it!
Good stuff.👍