It is bullshit like this which is why we have fake natties. This guys is a total idiot saying taking 140mg of test a week means you are basically natural. Shows you he know jack shit about anything. He should rather read them books behind him.
@Leonard Persin Everyone is going to be different, I know someone who's on the high end of the scale at 50mg a week. Then someone else who is mid range at 200mg.
LOL. TRT is nothing like being natural even if your levels are within range. Natural levels fluctuate during the day and are influenced by stress, sleep, alcohol etc. A person doing TRT has way more area under the curve.
I’m impressed with Boston’s pharmacological knowledge. Great discussion! Always love to hear about new and improved compounds and dietary supplements! Thank you Leo, more great info bro!
In regards to Hispanics and genetics based on race.. you can’t lump al Hispanics the same as Hispanics come from all softest racial mixtures and back grounds.. victor martinez, Juan morel who are Dominicans for example have majority African ancestry mixed with Spaniard European and Indigenous Taino blood.. I would say they probably have the best of both worlds based on the racial mixture
I tried it back in 2010 milos protocol, with pharmaceutical amino acids, at his powerhouse gym in Fullerton. We even added feeding tube liquid that was Rx. It was all just intercellular water!
re: you wanting to have kids, if you have kids either you or Lucie will have to be a stay at home parent and totally look after the kids. and as you say if you want to do a lot of work/projects & need to be focused then the wife have to be fully dedicated to looking after the kids, and if the wife wants to do somethings (projects/work) then you (husband) will have to be fully with the kids and look after them and you will have to take a full break from your projects. some parents manage it while they both work but probably have grandparents look after the kids while you both work/focuses on projects. But highly recommend against putting your kid in front of a TV or iPad or iPhone for hours and hours to keep the kids occupied while you and Lucie work even if you both are at home and are on your own laptops fully focused on the work you are doing, many people do this and I think it is doing some major learning and psychological issues (long term) to the kids
is creatine monohydrate (2.5g to 5g daily, powder mixed with water) ok to take regularly? have heard it sometimes in some people can have a bad effect on their kidneys? also have to drink a lot of water daily too?
@@LeoandLongevity youtuber Stefan Freeth "Freezma" takes "10g" of creatine per day ua-cam.com/video/Djq3Zy54N1U/v-deo.htmlm8s you should leave a comment on his video
Bostin is younger, in better shape, and more knowledgeable on peds than Lenny and Genova, but I feel he is just as dillusional... like do what you love I guess, but you’ll never be a top pro, and , why tf would you beat up your body like that for a plastic trophy and a 5kg sack of whey...
The reason you ask that question, and don't know the answer, is that you aren't an athlete at any significant level. People who are have a specific personality type that drives them to do things like this. It doesn't make sense to anyone else and never will, all you can do is sit back and watch the show!
@@bigcconservativeguy2534 bostin is not an athlete at a significant level bro, the only difference between him and the average roid head gym bro at your local gym is he has a social media platform... these are just bodybuilding enthusiasts with pipe dreams and a platform.
erclsr iranians are a larger group of ethnicity made up of many different groups Persians can be considered a subset.... do a little research..... Hadi is not Persian hes Iranian... “Modern Iranian-speaking peoples include the Baloch, Gilaks, Kurds, Lurs, Mazanderanis, Ossetians, Pamiris, Pashtuns, Persians, Tajiks, the Talysh, Wakhis, Yaghnobis and Zazas” and hadi identifies as Iranian
@@mgallagher10000Hadi is Persian. You are really uneducated and dont know Hadi. Iran is literally Persia. It used to be called Persia before it was overthrown and the name was changed to Iran. Here's a direct quote by the way. "The Persians are an Iranian ethnic group that make up over half the population of Iran." Come on man
The last part of the video on genetics was quite interesting and something I’ve always noticed myself too, I don’t like generalising since it’s a touchy subject and given the current climate but I’ve noticed from a young age that many people I personally knew who weight trained in one form or another and were South Asian or even from the Arabian peninsula had less than ideal genetics for bodybuilding, although this didn’t really correlate over to strength/athleticism from what I recall. I also saw the opposite for people of West African descent too which the video touches on, and this was irrespective of drug use. On the same page I also noticed that the guys I knew who originally hailed from Egypt had excellent genetics, as you mention in the video but I mean at an amateur level amongst natural and enhanced lifters I knew. What I mean by excellent is in terms of what many would consider as being ideal bodybuilding muscle insertions and the ability to somewhat naturally maintain a low bodyfat percentage, I also noticed this in some of my friends and acquaintances who were from the Maghreb as I grew up and still live in a very multicultural area. Something else I noticed too was a lack of abdominal obesity amongst North Africans which seemed somewhat more common in people I knew who were from South Asia or from the Arabian peninsula. I believe there has also been research that shows people from both of these regions tend towards being insulin resistance which I guess explains it to some extent. Also amongst the South Asians I knew, I noticed that those from what I believe are the more ‘Indo-European’ language regions towards the north-west had a far easier time gaining muscle mass and maintaining what would be considered a ‘good physique’ in bodybuilding but again there were huge individual variances and this is all anecdotal, it’s just something I thought someone who reads this may find somewhat interesting and true in their case too.
"I don’t like generalising since it’s a touchy subject and given the current climate" Let's stop fearing the truth, we have deeply submitted to subversive beliefs and behaviors and lost our masculine principles and reason. So long as you are intelligent enough to compartmentalize making general statements of people based on data and repeated experiences versus treating individuals as if they are the generalization rather than individuals, there's nothing wrong. We are at a very dangerous crossroads in the West where we cannot even obtain new information and research on many topics that are too 'touchy'. We need to stay awake (but please not woke).
It’s such an interesting topic for sure. I’m of half anglo white and half south Asian heritage myself and I wish the topic wasn’t brought down by the PC “we’re all exactly the same” crowd. My dad is a Muslim Indian from the North and he has GREAT genetics for weightlifting. Incredibly stocky mountain man. But his father was a slight framed guy with small joints. I seem to have inherited those genetics from my grandfather, but I have no problem putting on lean muscle, like my father. Also on my Anglo side all the men were very tall and lanky/skinny farmers with great muscle density and low body fat (I’d call them wire-y). But they couldn’t tack on mass at all. My white grandfather was made fun of for sinking in the pools instead of floating. It sucks that any mention of genetic differences these days will get you pegged as a “racist”. It’s such an important topic.
Phentermine is 1 half of the drug the FDA banned fenfluramine-phentermine aka fen-phen. It is classed as an "amphetamine type" drug and works mostly for appetite suppression. It is nowhere near as effective as fen-phen on it's own but it also doesn't cause the serious heart problems that fen=phen caused which led to the FDA banning it.
Its alpha dimethyl phenethylamine adderall is alpha methyl phenethylamine .... Its said to be weaker and leaning more on the norepinephrine releasing side
@@LeoandLongevity also just want to say I appreciate all the content you have put out. I’ve binged all sorts of your videos. Currently watching your comprehensive breakdown on marijuana’s effects of the brain. Keep doing your thing man you’re killing it!
Leo love you channel and longevity I think you should watch the Netflix series with zac efron down to earth a there was episode in sardinia Italy they live up to 100s and they eat low protein high carbs diets
I think that Greg isn't on too much more anabolics than he lets on but with all of his injuries from Power Lifting etc I think he may be on a shitload of GH/Insulin/BPC-157/T4 etc etc and those alone can put massive amounts of size on you without anything beyond a small dose of Test. Food for thought anyway.
@@LeoandLongevity so you don't think it's a possible scenario to get to 170 natty, come down and maintain 185 on a low dose of gear and going to 200 on a proper cycle? or do you think that midget greg should be 270 on gear if hes on hrt now, or that he is on 3g of tren already to be +15 over his natty limit"". just wondering.
Awesome! thanks for inviting him back. It was a bit distressing to hear that Bostin doesn't have health insurance, though. he is more than financially successful enough to buy it. I am glad Bostin stood up to the idiot vegan evangelist. Great episode, hoping for Bostin to come back next month, too.
Both parents of Lee Priest are bodybuilders so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on genetics. The thing with Greg is he absolutely has great genes if you look at his old natty pics BUT he's not really just at 140mg--that's just when he goes off between competitions. It is a bit of a half-truth because he couldn't have got there with TRT doses alone.
@@LeoandLongevity If a healthy 20 year old male produces about 6mg of Test per day or then 42mg/week, why on earth would someone regress if they are taking a full 140mg/week? As I said b4 I think Greg is not lying about his Test intake but he's just not being honest about what else he is taking. because of all of his injuries I think he is on a pretty steady regime of GH/Insulin/BP-157 and maybe T3/T4. Done correctly all of those stacked on a 140mg/week Test base would have 0 problem maintaining his physique on his small frame. Now, can Greg stretch the truth at times or lie by omission, oh yeah and he's made some bad choices in his life that might have you questioning the veracity of any claims he makes but on paper, the protocols done correctly, he could definitely maintain at only 140mg Test per week as it's that + all of the other non anabolics that are doing the job.
I have been using a lion in a shield since before that channel existed and my NAME means lion. So I am not changing my logo because he decided he likes lions.
Bostin's Forum ▶ www.bigdaddyb.com/members/
Hearing him talk about his kid, man it's just so sad. He loved him so much.
It's sad man, you can't reverse damage and he never blamed anyone but himself.
I miss this dude so much!!!! R.I.P my brother, miss you Leo
Boston is always a great interview very honest.
“Europhic” lmfaooo it’s euphoric bro 😂💀
We should get Boston to set up a plan to get meowman on stage and you leo to be his nutritionist.
Andrew won’t anymore . He’s too worried about his plaque .
greg army
Don't do the FTTP!!!!!! AHHHH Bostin No 🤦♂️
Wow, you were right... got goose bumps reading this comment
Boston never gets out of bed for interviews!
LOL never
'When ur on 140 mg of HRT ur basically natural''. Not everyone is gifted with a brain lmao.
It is bullshit like this which is why we have fake natties. This guys is a total idiot saying taking 140mg of test a week means you are basically natural. Shows you he know jack shit about anything. He should rather read them books behind him.
140mg TRT puts my total testosterone around 700ng which is well inside the normal range for naturals
@Leonard Persin Everyone is going to be different, I know someone who's on the high end of the scale at 50mg a week. Then someone else who is mid range at 200mg.
You're right not everyone is. Unfortunately you weren't. Rip
LOL. TRT is nothing like being natural even if your levels are within range. Natural levels fluctuate during the day and are influenced by stress, sleep, alcohol etc. A person doing TRT has way more area under the curve.
Love your shows with Bostin. Get him back soon! In for follastatin experiment
U 2 guys feed off each other great, loved the content
Hope Bostin thinks about his health and longevity too.
The irony of this video series title
I’m impressed with Boston’s pharmacological knowledge. Great discussion! Always love to hear about new and improved compounds and dietary supplements! Thank you Leo, more great info bro!
This is very entertaining. Get him on more. I like the questions you ask him and im learning stuff finally.
I see you everywhere
@@moa8839 We like the same quality videos sir
In regards to Hispanics and genetics based on race.. you can’t lump al Hispanics the same as Hispanics come from all softest racial mixtures and back grounds.. victor martinez, Juan morel who are Dominicans for example have majority African ancestry mixed with Spaniard European and Indigenous Taino blood.. I would say they probably have the best of both worlds based on the racial mixture
That was a funny and interesting conversation to listen too. Thanks.
What was the substance that helped with appetite control you couldn’t remember?
What is the statin you was suggesting please ? Thanks
I tried it back in 2010 milos protocol, with pharmaceutical amino acids, at his powerhouse gym in Fullerton. We even added feeding tube liquid that was Rx. It was all just intercellular water!
re: you wanting to have kids, if you have kids either you or Lucie will have to be a stay at home parent and totally look after the kids. and as you say if you want to do a lot of work/projects & need to be focused then the wife have to be fully dedicated to looking after the kids, and if the wife wants to do somethings (projects/work) then you (husband) will have to be fully with the kids and look after them and you will have to take a full break from your projects. some parents manage it while they both work but probably have grandparents look after the kids while you both work/focuses on projects. But highly recommend against putting your kid in front of a TV or iPad or iPhone for hours and hours to keep the kids occupied while you and Lucie work even if you both are at home and are on your own laptops fully focused on the work you are doing, many people do this and I think it is doing some major learning and psychological issues (long term) to the kids
is creatine monohydrate (2.5g to 5g daily, powder mixed with water) ok to take regularly? have heard it sometimes in some people can have a bad effect on their kidneys? also have to drink a lot of water daily too?
Yes, but no one needs 5g.
@@LeoandLongevity youtuber Stefan Freeth "Freezma" takes "10g" of creatine per day ua-cam.com/video/Djq3Zy54N1U/v-deo.htmlm8s you should leave a comment on his video
Link to the forum?
Bostin is younger, in better shape, and more knowledgeable on peds than Lenny and Genova, but I feel he is just as dillusional... like do what you love I guess, but you’ll never be a top pro, and , why tf would you beat up your body like that for a plastic trophy and a 5kg sack of whey...
The reason you ask that question, and don't know the answer, is that you aren't an athlete at any significant level. People who are have a specific personality type that drives them to do things like this. It doesn't make sense to anyone else and never will, all you can do is sit back and watch the show!
@@bigcconservativeguy2534 bostin is not an athlete at a significant level bro, the only difference between him and the average roid head gym bro at your local gym is he has a social media platform... these are just bodybuilding enthusiasts with pipe dreams and a platform.
But Bostin probably pulls 10,000-15,000 a month just from his coaching services alone. He makes a living from this and doesn’t have to work a day job
William Long lmao bro smh it wouldn’t be even close to that, remove a zero and MAYBE
swagKING youre a moron. I know a local coach making that much. Bostin has like 50 active clients
Hadi choopan is Persian and is a great bodybuilder
True
He’s iranian.... they literally just talked about Iranians after Persians, they clearly don’t consider them to be the same
erclsr iranians are a larger group of ethnicity made up of many different groups Persians can be considered a subset.... do a little research..... Hadi is not Persian hes Iranian... “Modern Iranian-speaking peoples include the Baloch, Gilaks, Kurds, Lurs, Mazanderanis, Ossetians, Pamiris, Pashtuns, Persians, Tajiks, the Talysh, Wakhis, Yaghnobis and Zazas” and hadi identifies as Iranian
@@mgallagher10000Hadi is Persian. You are really uneducated and dont know Hadi. Iran is literally Persia. It used to be called Persia before it was overthrown and the name was changed to Iran. Here's a direct quote by the way. "The Persians are an Iranian ethnic group that make up over half the population of Iran." Come on man
Hydrochlorothiazide is a diuretic. Hence why he lost all the water weight.
An eGFR of 90 is normal. 60-89 is stage one Renal Failure.
Phentermine is a weak stimulant that supposedly is harder on the heart than most stimulants, may cause fluid in lungs. It works though.
great podcast guys
Sad so this is the decision to start taking that fttp
The brain washing starts at 4
The last part of the video on genetics was quite interesting and something I’ve always noticed myself too, I don’t like generalising since it’s a touchy subject and given the current climate but I’ve noticed from a young age that many people I personally knew who weight trained in one form or another and were South Asian or even from the Arabian peninsula had less than ideal genetics for bodybuilding, although this didn’t really correlate over to strength/athleticism from what I recall. I also saw the opposite for people of West African descent too which the video touches on, and this was irrespective of drug use.
On the same page I also noticed that the guys I knew who originally hailed from Egypt had excellent genetics, as you mention in the video but I mean at an amateur level amongst natural and enhanced lifters I knew. What I mean by excellent is in terms of what many would consider as being ideal bodybuilding muscle insertions and the ability to somewhat naturally maintain a low bodyfat percentage, I also noticed this in some of my friends and acquaintances who were from the Maghreb as I grew up and still live in a very multicultural area. Something else I noticed too was a lack of abdominal obesity amongst North Africans which seemed somewhat more common in people I knew who were from South Asia or from the Arabian peninsula. I believe there has also been research that shows people from both of these regions tend towards being insulin resistance which I guess explains it to some extent.
Also amongst the South Asians I knew, I noticed that those from what I believe are the more ‘Indo-European’ language regions towards the north-west had a far easier time gaining muscle mass and maintaining what would be considered a ‘good physique’ in bodybuilding but again there were huge individual variances and this is all anecdotal, it’s just something I thought someone who reads this may find somewhat interesting and true in their case too.
Accurate observations!
"I don’t like generalising since it’s a touchy subject and given the current climate"
Let's stop fearing the truth, we have deeply submitted to subversive beliefs and behaviors and lost our masculine principles and reason. So long as you are intelligent enough to compartmentalize making general statements of people based on data and repeated experiences versus treating individuals as if they are the generalization rather than individuals, there's nothing wrong. We are at a very dangerous crossroads in the West where we cannot even obtain new information and research on many topics that are too 'touchy'. We need to stay awake (but please not woke).
It’s such an interesting topic for sure. I’m of half anglo white and half south Asian heritage myself and I wish the topic wasn’t brought down by the PC “we’re all exactly the same” crowd. My dad is a Muslim Indian from the North and he has GREAT genetics for weightlifting. Incredibly stocky mountain man. But his father was a slight framed guy with small joints. I seem to have inherited those genetics from my grandfather, but I have no problem putting on lean muscle, like my father. Also on my Anglo side all the men were very tall and lanky/skinny farmers with great muscle density and low body fat (I’d call them wire-y). But they couldn’t tack on mass at all. My white grandfather was made fun of for sinking in the pools instead of floating. It sucks that any mention of genetic differences these days will get you pegged as a “racist”. It’s such an important topic.
51:30 ouch
Excellent vid
Best blood pressure medication for bodybuilders? Did you recommend LOSARTAN/HYDROCHLOROTHIAZIDE?
Go take a look at Stan Effferding's channel. He has a boatload of info about BP including protocols to keep it in check without meds.
Good stuff
RiP Bostin Loyd
i wish leo was a doctor so he could be my doc i feel like he gives a fuck and loves the sport and the science in it
How the fuck did i not find your channel until now!?!
Subed my guy!!!
🙏 glad to have you
Just so you all know Phentermine is prescribed mainly to women to help with appetite control I don't know how much of a stimulant it is like adderal
Phentermine is 1 half of the drug the FDA banned fenfluramine-phentermine aka fen-phen. It is classed as an "amphetamine type" drug and works mostly for appetite suppression. It is nowhere near as effective as fen-phen on it's own but it also doesn't cause the serious heart problems that fen=phen caused which led to the FDA banning it.
Its alpha dimethyl phenethylamine adderall is alpha methyl phenethylamine .... Its said to be weaker and leaning more on the norepinephrine releasing side
1:10:11
what was the name of the statin you suggested
Bostin Loyd is good for the algorithm
Doesn’t gear go bad after a while? If I stockpiled and used some 5 years from now wouldn’t it be degraded?
It has a risk of being degraded and not sterile. But people have used 10 year old ampules successfully.
how is CJC different from MK
Leo what is your thoughts on carderine’s effect on lowering cholesterol?
So many better drugs/supplements out there without the cancer risk brother.
@@LeoandLongevity also just want to say I appreciate all the content you have put out. I’ve binged all sorts of your videos. Currently watching your comprehensive breakdown on marijuana’s effects of the brain. Keep doing your thing man you’re killing it!
Great hard on tip around 59 minute mark. Kidneyadvice 40 minutes.
sad that kid may not have any memory of daddy
selfish
Leo love you channel and longevity I think you should watch the Netflix series with zac efron down to earth a there was episode in sardinia Italy they live up to 100s and they eat low protein high carbs diets
Yes they are well known and studied by longevity researchers
Bostin is fucking hilarious man lol
Whats that statin you can take while blasting you always talk about?
Cbd helps nausea so much
It has great effects on the brain: ua-cam.com/video/ZH-VlV7WbC8/v-deo.html
Love this shit
Leo is there a website where I can just listen to the audio of your podcasts?
Apple Podcasts and Spotify have them. Please give it a rating to help us out 👍
I think that Greg isn't on too much more anabolics than he lets on but with all of his injuries from Power Lifting etc I think he may be on a shitload of GH/Insulin/BPC-157/T4 etc etc and those alone can put massive amounts of size on you without anything beyond a small dose of Test. Food for thought anyway.
This is absolutely incorrect. He is not on HRT without other androgens - he is lying.
@@LeoandLongevity so you don't think it's a possible scenario to get to 170 natty, come down and maintain 185 on a low dose of gear and going to 200 on a proper cycle? or do you think that midget greg should be 270 on gear if hes on hrt now, or that he is on 3g of tren already to be +15 over his natty limit"". just wondering.
“Europhic”
Whelp this aged poorly.
Eh I think you guys are wrong about Greg lol. 140mgs is not natural
here for Bostin
Awesome! thanks for inviting him back. It was a bit distressing to hear that Bostin doesn't have health insurance, though. he is more than financially successful enough to buy it. I am glad Bostin stood up to the idiot vegan evangelist. Great episode, hoping for Bostin to come back next month, too.
What is the name of that baby statin? 59:53
A baby statin called blblno*^*& come leo how bout putting some of this info in the show notes instead of just emailing it to yor pal.
Livalo.
Both parents of Lee Priest are bodybuilders so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on genetics. The thing with Greg is he absolutely has great genes if you look at his old natty pics BUT he's not really just at 140mg--that's just when he goes off between competitions. It is a bit of a half-truth because he couldn't have got there with TRT doses alone.
It is not a half truth. It is a lie. If anyone stays at 140 for long they will regress.
@@LeoandLongevity If a healthy 20 year old male produces about 6mg of Test per day or then 42mg/week, why on earth would someone regress if they are taking a full 140mg/week? As I said b4 I think Greg is not lying about his Test intake but he's just not being honest about what else he is taking. because of all of his injuries I think he is on a pretty steady regime of GH/Insulin/BP-157 and maybe T3/T4. Done correctly all of those stacked on a 140mg/week Test base would have 0 problem maintaining his physique on his small frame. Now, can Greg stretch the truth at times or lie by omission, oh yeah and he's made some bad choices in his life that might have you questioning the veracity of any claims he makes but on paper, the protocols done correctly, he could definitely maintain at only 140mg Test per week as it's that + all of the other non anabolics that are doing the job.
maybe this video will blow up aha
Your logo looks like valutainment
I have been using a lion in a shield since before that channel existed and my NAME means lion. So I am not changing my logo because he decided he likes lions.
@@LeoandLongevity did I say you had to change the name of your logo?
Joel Thompson the name?
@@LeoandLongevity go eat some food