Spotting Contamination in a Monotub
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2021
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I believe that most of the white on top is actually overlay or stroma(cobweb is much more wispy or hair like and is usually more grey than mushroom myc ). In my experience and research overlay is due to over saturated substrate, improper casing, lack of fresh air, or has a stroma variant in the genetics. As for the contamination, Trichoderma loves lots of water and lower PH. So it is easier to create an environment that doesn't support its growth than to try and block it out. Using gypsum or hydrated lime in the substrate will help to raise the PH. If you can achieve a PH of 8.5-10 the trichoderma should not be able to grow.
Excellent advice!
Thank you very much!
I've heard that hydrogen peroxide easily kills "cobweb" mold, while harmless to the mycelium. Sounds like an easy fix. Is it?
Should I spray alkaline water on substrate? Like a 9.0 ph?
To much water caused mine
Cob web mold turns black when you touch it with Metal. Cheers
Wow really?! Got to check that out next time!
And what that means
@@tzimiz77 that means you can identify it easier
Thank you for an easier way to know it's cobweb mold!!!
I also heard a mycelium won’t leave residue on a q-tip if rubbed, but contam will
Cobweb is a dark gray and you can easily tell the difference. Never seen anyone pick up a contaminated tub and have it next to their face much less open it and play with it. Good video of what not to do.
I thought maybe I needed my eyes checked, I saw no cobweb either.
THANK YOU. first time grower and i have dark gray :/
@@melissakaye3600 if you have a spot to put it outside in the shade you can loosely cover it with dirt they will still grow and not be disgusting. they will get huge.
@@melissakaye3600 if its cobweb mold it will grow faster and thinner spray contaminated areas of mushroom cake 3 times, 12-hour interval between treatments with hydrogen peroxide (Н2О2) solution 3%. It's ready to use solution from the pharmacy, don't dilute it! Then add extra air but if it doesn't disappear toss it.
What’s bad about messing around with a contaminated tub?
Thanks for the info about Trichoderma mold. I might use it in the garden plants.
This whole video is like a lesson in what not to do. Don’t run around the house w an open contaminated container. Don’t disregard the fact that your BODY will host spores and spread them everywhere else. And don’t listen to anyone wearing a doctors jacket trying to convince you he has a degree.
Don't use a motor with a dark top, and don't listen to anyone that tells you tour contams came from anywhere but your dirty spawn.
Almost like he says that in the video durrrrrr
I put my contaminated blocks outside after spotting a few green specks of mold on them. Is it safe to handle or use them if they were thrown out due to contamination?
Great stuff man thank you!!
Keeping "Funguses" in the video just got you a sub man ;)
Good info btw!
hello, I have two very important questions, I hope you can help! I have rye grain, brown rice flour, bird seed mix (linseed, sunflower seeds, millet), vermiculite. My question is, after colonizing the jars, can I not I use additional nutrients! Should I move the colonized substrate into a box and add only perlite to the bottom of the box, in the middle mycelium, last layer of vermiculite?!
I’m growing my first shrooms, got a kit that already had white mold. Shrooms are growing fine and fast. doesn’t smell faul, smells just like the shrooms you buy in a box. But there is green/blue mold growing all around the kit and stems of shrooms. Can they still be consumed? Should I throw it out?
Is dry bubble safe aswell ?
Is it possible to bruise primordia? Or am I looking at possible contam 😮💨😭
Did you hear the one (told by Dr. Judy Wood) how Madison Avenue sales promoters invented the White Coat as an official symbol of professional doctoral Authority.
I’m a nurse and I haven’t heard of Trichoderma infecting people. It looks like the same stuff that grows on a cup of coffee if you forget it in the basement. I wash those out and I don’t worry about becoming infected. 🤷🏼♀️
I had always heard (in my short growing experience) that if you had any trichaderma, then the tub needed to be disposed of. I’m glad to know that there might be a way to save the tub even if there is some contamination.
I know this video is old but my tub just started fruiting today Blue ghost shrooms everything's been healthy and looking good then I noticed a small spot of trench in the right corner small but noticeable I took a spoon and scooped it out can someone tell me what would cause this considering that the jars were perfectly healthy and the tubs was colonizing an fine then boom this 😢
Great video. Thanks for the info.
You know... It would be cool to see a video on growing trichoderma. It would be helpful for fighting fungal growth in growing mediums of other plants.
Open up you infested tub in garden with fan?
please!
you should do a Video on the difference between blue bruising and contamination if your humidity is to high then to low (humidistat broke) the mycelium can bruise blue and if it comes in contact with the yellow liquid produced by to much humidity or spraying it can turn the bruises a shade of green commonly confused for contamination especially for new ppl
Yeah, shaking jars can also bruise the mycelium and turn it blue, everytime i shake my spawn jars, I get a little bruising on the thicker, more concentrated mats of mycelium and have had people on shroomery tell me they where contaminated :p Nope, just psilocybe mycelium lol its... special ;)
@@sheeeitmayn4384 bro you just saved me so much heartache i shook the jars and it turn tad blue after the shake and i was like ahh dam contam but thanks for that insight
thank you so much for this comment, this reassured me
The shroomery has gone downhill, most of the useful advice is many years old. The attitude of some posters too! It's like they never considered people would read their rude comments years later! 🙄
glad I could help everyone
So I currently have a grow bag and see some greenish mold inside bags. The mushrooms are fruiting though. If I see one or 2 spots should I just throw the bag away?
When you have a grow bag that is contam, if it has established mycelium, plant it outside in some shade. It will fruit for you. Nature doesn’t care about contam, but small sealed ecosystems do.
You can spray hydroperoxide on cobweb mould, it kills the mould but not the mycelium. Don't know a good trick for eliminating trich, but you can use salt to slow it down to get atleast a decent flush.
Thank you.
Yes thats stroma may have some cobweb, He knows his shit though and is very entertaining and informative! Dude cracks me up
Cob web mold melts when you spray with 70% isopropyl also! This doesn't hurt the mycelium at all. 💕
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alcohol will kill everything. if you have mold then throw it out
!!Wrong!! Do not use alcohol
!!CORRECT!!
Use hydrogen peroxide in little amounts in infected area
I've used iso and it did what it was supposed to do. No issues at all. So instead of saying WRONG- YOU SHOULD SAY TO EACH HIS OWN @CHRISGRANT @WEBSPORESBLAHBLAHBLAH
@@januaryfoster5403 why would you use Alcohol that kills the mycelium and mold instead of hydrogen peroxide that only kills the mold and doesn't harm the mycelium at all? if you use lots of hydrated lime and use it in the dunking water mold isn't even a concern. throw out moldy ones don't fix them.
doubt you’ll respond lol but i grew mushrooms in 2 grow bags and they both have been fruiting for about a week. a few of the mushrooms have a light blueish green color on the caps but nothing on the substrate. is it contaminated?
What has happened since?
I have the same issue, what happened? can you tell me your experience?
@@DMASTERS555 I know I may be late to answer but some mushrooms have been isolated with the blueish green bruise on the umbo. If you are worried about it you can test it with a cotton swab. run the swab over the green. If it rubs of it could be contamination, but if nothing transfers to the cotton it is just bruising.
@@miscmyc4729 thanks! Unluckily it was contamination. Still could save some of my first harvest!
I think i ate some with mold but obviously nothing happens. So what could be the worst case scenario
voluem low af?
Bro is literally playing with and huffing trichoderma😂
Hey i have prepared a my mycelium composite and green mold grows on my composite in high humidity areas please me and suggest me any solution for this problem.
Try a different substrate?
Im lmao at all the damn bugs. I seen one climbing down from the tub, then at 0:55 you see another bug running up his lab jacket. Why are there so many bugs?
Maaan...my first attemp is contaminated...Is there any way of get rid of trichoderma? Great video btw
I’m watching it bec I’m on my first tub too. I think I got that crap too. I got a sealed gasket top so I’m gonna assume something got in before I shut the lid. I see no mold tho
@@russellny8086 it could be genetic as well. I have certain strains that develop this after the first flush
I don’t open mine for AT LEAST 10 days after add to bulk. Make sure you pasteurize your bulk properly too.
Guys he said it don't matter if u have that mold.
Salt kills trichoderma
all my tubs got the green mold feels bad
What are your thoughts on using n95 masks for covering the air holes? Figured it would allow airflow while keeping contaminants out, but I wasn't sure if it would restrict airflow too much.
I had used a brand new filter from an air purifier. Cut it to the square I needed it to be on my homemade monotub.
Dude those masks are not rated to stop what u think..... they're also not effective against the Rona!
trichoderma also often used by growers in soil and hydro to aid plant nutrient uptake and prevent root rot as far as i know. people attempting both plants and funghi indoors will want to avoid trichoderma (near impossible on soil) or keep the two ventures well separated...
So mushrooms growing outside the periphery of trichoderma are safe to eat? What about mushrooms that have it on them? I have a whole tub of ripe fruits I’m too nervous to harvest.
Pictures are needed... blueish green bruising can occur on mycelium and on fruits for multiple reasons. Green isn't always trich
He said u could eat the trichoderma if mistaken?
Yeah he said bacteria growth on mushroom like if u kept lid closed for a month. But trichoderma ground alongside plants and fungi
He said if it's growing on the shrooms it's a no ..
If it's growing on the substrate
it's a yes
What if you open it befor colonization just for bit to see the progress will it effect it?
No. They are pretty durable
How did it turn out?
I'm still getting that green mold without even opening the tub
put 1.5 tsp of hydrated lime per quart of substrate. i use 2 per and don't even pasturize it.
Perhaps the substrate was not properly pasteurized as well since the bugs? Or they crawled in after the fact?
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Can I just scoop it away? What do we do?
Pretty sure it's called surgery I'm watching a two hour video on UA-cam which is hard to find if you just look up mushroom monotub and have to put psychedelic in it- from Oregon. He said you can sometimes just cut it out of your box but you have to be extremely cautious and sanitary when you do it
@@thaterasound It's better to just start over. It can be successful, but you're only slowing the trichoderma from taking over by cutting or removing it. If you have other grows going on you want to isolate that specific one away so it doesn't infect anything else.
It will spread like wildfire if you expose trich to air and try to fruit other tubs. If you're fruiting a lot of tubs burry it outside in a flower pot if it's still warm where you live. That gets it away from your other tubs and sometimes it will naturally fruit outside in the flower pot. It's be best win win if you're planning on cultivating other tubs
No it won’t work take ur lose and don’t open it in ur house mold also have spores and they will go into the air in ur room. Just take it outside and get rid of it
He said trichoderma is harmless?
BRO WHY ARE YOU OPENING TRICODERM IN YOUR LAB
I have some orange spots in my monotub has anyone ever had this issue?
It usually depends on the type of mushroom you are growing, you could get some different colors depending on wich spore you used before.
You should google if it's ok
what was it?
Not sure really I tossed it. I probably have more problems with contamination than anyone and it's crazy because I go far and beyond to have a sterile environment and practices. Idk
@@mikehancho1613 do you use hydrated lime in the substrate? it's necessary.
@@mikehancho1613 do you sterilize the substrate? if you do that then contamination is inevitable. you need to pasteurize it or use lots of lime. use less water than you think.
"ya not gonna die"
Breathing Trichoderma is really bad.
You don't want to eat trichoderma but you can like why
fuck, i used some shitty tape that wasn't wide enough and a little gap was all it took for trich to find it's way in my last monotub (i've tossed 4 already), it was 98% colonized, damn. this is a HARD hobby, well... at least i know now.
Definitely not a hobby for the impatient, keep at it and you are bound to succeed!
hydrogen peroxide will kill the trich but not harm the mycelium
grains were dirty. you can almost certainly fruit inside a dumpster and it will not contam
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I think if your gonna use cotton balls use smaller holes!
It is synthetic polyfill. Cotton definitely won't work! Polyfill is the stuff usually used to stuff toy animals.
@@squirlmy Ok
but still smaller holes. To much room for gaps!
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Sorry my english are not the best, on min 2:45 you say trichoderma and ? are safe for humans. You list two contaminations.
Cobweb mold
Putting black around a tub is outdated. Make sure to compress your substrate to remove air pockets
True, I made this video like 4 years ago 😅
Doesnt look like cobweb dude
i was always told breathing in trichoderma is nasty and could get you sick. Cobweb mold not as much
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@@pvmchrisy how sanitary are you
Polyfill is outdated and basically useless, wasteful and bulky. I don't ever want to use it again unless I'm sewing a pillow or stuffed animal. Micropore tape or synthetic filter disks are far superior to Polyfill
holy shit 400 bucks for a crash course and then holds the conatm container with trichoderma next to his face bruh
not even mentioning opening the container inside the room
Trichodermia spores aren’t dangerous you inhale them everyday homie. But he didn’t have any actual example of cobweb mold.
Never listen to a person who says "funguses" 👌🏼
Trich eats more that fungus, trich literally jumps off dirty, uncolonised spawn. If you have trich, you have bad spawn. This dude is clueless. You can breath as much as you want on a mono if you have clean spawn.
I’ve noticed a few spots on my tub are bumping up but they are also changing color I can’t tell if it’s bruising or trich do pins usually bruise the substrate?
Not generally but it can be because the substrate is a bit dehydrated