This Chevy Dealership is trying to Steal $5,000 from a Vette Customer!

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  • Опубліковано 22 лют 2024
  • This Chevy Dealership is trying to Steal $5000 from a Vette Customer!
    Ladies and gentlemen, today I will discuss a dealership in Holland, Michigan Denooyer Chevrolet, who is trying to steal $5k from their Corvette customer.
    600 E 8th St, Holland, MI 49423
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  • @BrinkofSpeed
    @BrinkofSpeed  3 місяці тому +8

    What are your thoughts on this matter?
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    • @user-iy2oz1jw2q
      @user-iy2oz1jw2q 3 місяці тому +1

      Your story shows a store in Kalamazoo Michigan which is. It affiliated with the denooyer holland store you are describing. They are not affiliated and have no common ownership please take down immediately.

    • @CiaoBellaItalianGirl
      @CiaoBellaItalianGirl 3 місяці тому +1

      You are talking about ROBERT Denooyer Chevrolet in Holland. Please correct this video, they are NOT affiliated to Denooyer Chevrolet in Kalamazoo. Correct your wrongs.

    • @m4rvinmartian
      @m4rvinmartian 3 місяці тому

      Why did you delete my comment offering him help?
      Did this actually not happen?

    • @garystevens1044
      @garystevens1044 3 місяці тому

      Just wait til the C9 ZR COMES OUT!!!

  • @Jimmerca
    @Jimmerca 3 місяці тому +90

    I would never buy a car that I had to leave a deposit on. I trust a car salesman about as much as I trust a politician.

    • @sthr2110
      @sthr2110 3 місяці тому +3

      That makes no sense IF you have it in writing that the deposit is refundable (and states when it is refundable, vs when it is not)...or...if law dictates that it is refundable, for a period of time and under which conditions. I was a dealer for years and sold many cars, while taking deposits to hold nearly all of them. There was never an issue and there was never an unhappy customer. Those who wouldn't leave deposits (because they were sure they'd be scammed), even when others were interested in the vehicles for sale, only ever missed out on the vehicles they liked and were usually unhappy about missing out on them. Many even tried to blame me for missing out, due to their unwillingness to leave deposits to hold, but that never worked because the mistakes were always theirs.

    • @fartdonkey8290
      @fartdonkey8290 3 місяці тому +1

      That's because you've never bought a new car

    • @dennisryan6370
      @dennisryan6370 3 місяці тому +3

      You have more trust than I do cuz I would trust Satan before I'd trust a Car Dealership...

    • @dc6233
      @dc6233 3 місяці тому

      I trust Big Pharma even less than politicians or salesmen of any type...

    • @wendwllhickey6426
      @wendwllhickey6426 3 місяці тому

      Never put a down payment at all Sue the person who took the money personally and a lean on the property 😂

  • @robertparsons5295
    @robertparsons5295 3 місяці тому +15

    Here’s a great dealership story.
    My salesman, who I had bought 8-10 cars from over the years in Northern Ontario, Canada called me in ‘21. He told me they had an allocation for a ‘22 C8 and, unless I ordered something freaky, they were inviting me to spec the order, without a commitment to purchase. Zero down.
    When it showed up, I was hooked, of course.
    I said to the dealer principal:”hey, I’ve bought 8-10 cars from you guys. How about a discount”.
    They gave me 500 bucks off of a ‘22 2LT red tintmist stingray. My dealer principal said: “don’t tell anyone about this. You are most certainly the only person in Canada who’s gotten a penny off MSRP for a new ‘Vette”.
    Now, that’s customer service.

    • @chillwill5080
      @chillwill5080 3 місяці тому +2

      Cool story but MSRP has been obscenely inflated to begin with. A sucker is a sucker no matter what they think they won.

    • @Dr.Bigglesworth
      @Dr.Bigglesworth 3 місяці тому

      Except you told everyone...

  • @jrgriffith5221
    @jrgriffith5221 3 місяці тому +34

    In July 2023 I had a Dealer that had a C8 listed for 89K, when I went to buy it they said they didn't sell any vette for less than 10K above MSRP. I walked. I then called Lone Star Chevrolet in Houston, and asked 2 questions of Ian Jackson the sales person. How much deposit, and how much over MSRP? I was told no deposit and nothing over MSRP. I placed my order mid Sept., and the price increase happened on Oct. 2nd, 2024. I inquired about price protection and was told I'd receive it. I paid for the car, and then picked the car up on Nov 15th at the NCM, and approx. 35 days later I received the price difference between the old pricing and the increased pricing. Ian was a pleasure to do business with, as was Lone Star Chevrolet, and I couldn't have asked for a better experience. I highly recommend Lone Star and especially Ian if you're looking to purchase a new corvette. In just the last3 months they've had several C8s fully loaded as well as several Z06s. Do NOT be afraid to walk away from a crappy dealer!

    • @user-ib6pp8bk6e
      @user-ib6pp8bk6e 3 місяці тому

      This story right here is what those other SCOMBAG Dealers NEED TO SEE! As a matter of FACT, I am going over there first thing in the morning and CANCEL my car order! AND I willbe calling Ian and going to order over there. PERIOD. We ALL need to watchout for one another. Why wouldnt the news do a story about these CROOKS....? do i really need to explain...hummm?
      Dear Dealerships, We, the general pubic are FED UP with the way you are conducting yourselves. What SHAME You have. HOW do you sleep at night when wondering how your Mothers feelings are, by YOU, ole Dealership, when YOU drag the Family Name Down to this level. You, Are ......... WE ARE DONE with the whole lot of YOU !

    • @frankkeel8410
      @frankkeel8410 3 місяці тому

      Just did a Ford deal in Glastonbury CT ,18 month wait a smooth transaction! Chevrolet dealers do not live off of repetitive business

    • @sthr2110
      @sthr2110 3 місяці тому +3

      Buyers flake WAY too often. As a new car dealer, I would never...EVER...order a vehicle for someone without them having skin in the game. Money down equals a commitment to purchase. Keeping a deposit, while not coming through for a customer, though, is another issue, entirely, and is definitely NOT ok.

  • @kraigpike
    @kraigpike 3 місяці тому +37

    We sat in the finance office at DeNooyer Chevrolet Holland 2 years ago, we were ready to sign the papers and then the pressure started. They were trying bend us over. I walked out the door. Two days later as I'm on my way to another dealership to pick up our new Yukon, Denooyer called and was falling all over themselves to make it happen. Sorry DeNooyer - Holland your dealership is a loser.

    • @BrinkofSpeed
      @BrinkofSpeed  3 місяці тому +3

      Great info, thank you for sharing this.

    • @m4rvinmartian
      @m4rvinmartian 3 місяці тому

      @@BrinkofSpeed Hey, if your friend wants to send me all the info, I can help him get through the first stages of a lawsuit. I have specialized in contract law for a couple decades. I don't currently practice, but the info is still all the same.
      I might add... I'm likely to get his money back QUICKLY, without a lawsuit.
      I am EXTREMELY compelling and persuasive.
      My nfo is in my about. I won't see a response here unless you upvote this comment.

    • @m4rvinmartian
      @m4rvinmartian 3 місяці тому

      @@BrinkofSpeed did you delete my comment?

    • @b.c4066
      @b.c4066 3 місяці тому

      Being a western michigan resident, I can vouch for the fact that Denoyer has been unscrupulous and done similar things for decades. It is in their dna, deeply entrenched in generations of the management there. Have tried similar things to various friends and family over the years. they will keep doing it. will take a lawsuit that damages them harshly to get them to change their practices.

    • @wendwllhickey6426
      @wendwllhickey6426 3 місяці тому

      They think that they are the only place that sells cars.screw dealers

  • @bettermost
    @bettermost 3 місяці тому +7

    I ran from Dnooyer last month when I tried to buy a Z06 from them. One phone call and I could smell something rotten right away.

  • @TD1223
    @TD1223 3 місяці тому +31

    I'm in the market for a C8 and I noticed a dealer right up the street in Venice Fl had the same car I was looking for. I noticed the sticker had a market adjustment of 40%. I called and offered to purchase at MSRP to which they asked if I had any leeway to which I said no and they thanked me for my time. Today I picked up the same car at another dealership for MSRP. $40K market adjustment on a $101k vehicle!!!

    • @SamC992
      @SamC992 3 місяці тому +6

      These dealers have bought up all the corvettes and camaros and have stupid mark ups. I’ll just wait until their bank makes them liquidate inventory or do a private party sale if all possible. Give it another year and things will be different they are cranking out corvettes every minute.

    • @crankychris2
      @crankychris2 3 місяці тому

      @@SamC992 Folk, be patient. There's always another deal. Look at the scammng that some Dodge dealers are doing on Demon 170.

    • @polystictus
      @polystictus 3 місяці тому

      They can ask anything they want and simply sit on the car as decoration for their showroom and get bad press for the attempt at "robbery". If some dope pays it, they are dam lucky and still have the bad press.

    • @thewizard9
      @thewizard9 3 місяці тому

      The guys have sales targets to achieve so keep negotiating 👍

    • @johnthomson8332
      @johnthomson8332 3 місяці тому

      Why would someone pay 40k over if they could get it at MSRP, sucker born every minute I guess.

  • @nealsullivan5153
    @nealsullivan5153 3 місяці тому +18

    Thanks for pointing of this dirtbag dealership. No one should buy a car from them!

    • @m4rvinmartian
      @m4rvinmartian 3 місяці тому +1

      *Why are you calling them dirtbag? You have at best... 3rd hand information. You don't have anywhere near all the facts.*
      Did you look at the part that said non-refundable? What does that mean to you?

    • @nealsullivan5153
      @nealsullivan5153 3 місяці тому

      If true, they are dirtbags.

  • @amill1563
    @amill1563 3 місяці тому +11

    I like the intro and sense of community you are creating. The greed of dealers and availability to make money via multiple avenues is crazy. Customer protection is critical and this is one way to do it.

    • @BrinkofSpeed
      @BrinkofSpeed  3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, that’s what the BOS community is all about. We want to create a fun and family oriented environment. Yep, dealers are ridiculous these days. They are out of control.

  • @rsmith7637
    @rsmith7637 3 місяці тому +5

    Back in the 80`s DeNoyer was selling cars and trucks" as is "with bad camshafts. Elhard was selling a paint and undercoating for 1k. wife had a accident and the body shop said it was never protected paint or body undercoating. When I called Elhart they told me it`s invisible. I will never buy a car in Holland again.

    • @b.c4066
      @b.c4066 3 місяці тому

      my Grandfather purchased a truck from denoyer in the late 70's. He always had dealerships install zebart undercoating, he believed in the product. Anyway, they charged him for it and did not install the product. He had to get a lawyer involved, at the time he was a uaw autoworker In a Buchanan michigan axle plant, and his friends (legal team) at the union hall made some calls. The matter was quickly resolved. But it took a call to gm corporate, and them breathing down denoyers throats. He talked about it every 4-5 years when he would buy new trucks, Denoyer are crooks, have been for a long time. seems unreal that over 45 years later they are still up to their tricks.

  • @chrisfrierson4578
    @chrisfrierson4578 3 місяці тому +6

    Thanks for speaking up and advocating for another in our community. Sounds like they need to “lawyer up” if the dealership doesn’t want to issue a refund. Just the initial litigation will cost them more than $5000 to defend. Denooyer just needs to give the money back.

  • @rivermutt642
    @rivermutt642 3 місяці тому +10

    Just looked on that dealer's site as of 02/23/2024. They have a 2024 C8 3LT Z51 HTC Stingray sitting in the showroom at MSRP. Got to wonder who they screwed someone out of that one and are now trying to sell it. Got my Z06 anniversary edition HTC at MSRP from Les Stanford in Dearborn MI last spring. The most honest volume Corvette dealer in the area.

    • @randypinchard1553
      @randypinchard1553 3 місяці тому

      I've done business with Les Stanford. Agreed, great Corvette dealership to work with.

  • @blazing9034
    @blazing9034 3 місяці тому +5

    Great video! As a car enthusiast and as a guy that buys cars every 4-6 months in Texas, I will 100% NOT be buying a car from that dealership! No need for us to deal with this level of BS.

  • @sells40
    @sells40 3 місяці тому +7

    This is DeNooyer Chevrolet in Holland, MI which IS NOT affiliated with the DeNooyer Chevrolet in Kalamazoo, MI.

    • @J67ss
      @J67ss 3 місяці тому

      Don't matter, ALL dealers are greedy scumbags

  • @redcars72
    @redcars72 3 місяці тому +8

    At this point, he's already lost unfortunately. Even if he gets his money back and moves on, the time, stress, just doesn't make it right.

  • @lamadba719
    @lamadba719 3 місяці тому +9

    Mike, My dealer called yesterday with a 2024 Zo6 , where the customer declined to pick up due medical issues. They are looking to sell a sticker. It is a Z1 Coupe in Gray with Red interior. The window sticker is $117,701. I viewed the car as it was unloading. This is the second one I've been offered. I am waiting on a Convertible. If anyone is interested the dealer is outside Atlanta Ga. I have pictures.

  • @Michael1958
    @Michael1958 3 місяці тому +3

    Thanks Mike. I live in Michigan and appreciate the heads up. DeNooyers in Holland will never get any off my business. Unfortunately this kind of thing gives all dealerships a bad reputation. I bought my 22 HTC with no hiccups from a local dealership at MSRP, from tips I received from you at B.O.S. Keep up the informative work. Great job. 😊

  • @todddenooyer9859
    @todddenooyer9859 3 місяці тому +4

    Thanks for your timely email response today. I appreciate you willingness to clarify that this was not at the DeNooyer Chevrolet Kalamazoo or DeNooyer Chevrolet Marshal dealerships in Michigan. You have a powerful voice and it must be used with proper research and information shared. It would be appropriate if you added a video to clarify which store Joe had placed the order with, Robert DeNooyer Chevrolet in Holland Mi.

  • @johnwyllis5818
    @johnwyllis5818 3 місяці тому +5

    This was at DeNooyer in Holland Michigan and not affiliated with the Kalamazoo store.

  • @kennymilton7457
    @kennymilton7457 3 місяці тому +3

    General rule of business I follow is, if they're not willing to let me drive off with a car without me giving them any money, they don't see any of my money till the vehicle is ready for delivery. Doesn't matter what it is. Even getting short changed. I'll stand there waiting for .10¢, cause I know if I was short that they probably wouldn't sell me what I was trying to buy.

  • @jeffbeaver4419
    @jeffbeaver4419 3 місяці тому +9

    I had good success with Rick Conti. Ordered a 2024 Stingray from him last September and received it in early January...at MSRP and no deposit.

    • @Texas_Clay
      @Texas_Clay 3 місяці тому +5

      I bet conti won’t sell a Z06 at MSRP

    • @jimcosgrove292
      @jimcosgrove292 3 місяці тому +1

      I bet he will he is a great salesman at a great Dealership

    • @Vette4life
      @Vette4life 3 місяці тому

      ​@@Texas_Clayhis dealership won't. But that's not Rick's call!

    • @Texas_Clay
      @Texas_Clay 3 місяці тому +2

      Well Jim, i am a betting man. I will contact Conti and put this to test.

    • @ryanyoshimura4652
      @ryanyoshimura4652 3 місяці тому

      Conti and his dealership were one of the first announcing that they were going to auction off z06 allocations to the highest over msrp. I was holding out to put my deposit with them until I heard this news. Unfortunately, that time wasted put me way back in the line of Criswell instead. Added to the list in 5/2021…..still not a peep. This launch has been a mess.

  • @BlueLineWarrior7481
    @BlueLineWarrior7481 3 місяці тому +9

    20 years ago I sued a dealership over this and they made an easy $3500 deposit turn into a cost of 45k to them...sometimes they gotta learn!!

  • @kirkdunn1379
    @kirkdunn1379 3 місяці тому +5

    bought alot of vehicles all thru pandemic up til today.....dealerships imo are all crooked to some degree, the trick is to catch them at a point where they need you more than you need them

  • @mikejautosandstuff3349
    @mikejautosandstuff3349 3 місяці тому +3

    I paid $20k over in 2021 for a c8 HTC. Just last month I bought and paid $msrp no markup no adm for a 2024 new c8 z51 mag

  • @ppeller3
    @ppeller3 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for keeping us up to date.

  • @Murminator660
    @Murminator660 3 місяці тому +2

    Same thing was happening in Canada with all dealerships. People ordered and some put deposits then when their vehicle arrived they sold to the highest bidder. 1 guy ordered a dodge diesel got his VIN signed up for the online tracking and was watching to building and shipping process. Seen it was delivered to dealer waited a day or 2 for PDI was wondering why they weren't calling him. He went down to the stealership to seen it in the delivery bay and people taking pics with it and the salesman. He inquired and they said it was sold and checked the vin and it was his and they sold to someone else. They told him they don't have a signed sales agreement from him so he might have ordered but he did not purchase yet.... but they would order him another.🤣

  • @tomdeangelo1898
    @tomdeangelo1898 3 місяці тому +1

    Mike,
    Great information to consider! Gotta always be on the lookout and do your homework prior to any major purchase!
    Thanks for your continued support of the Vette community!!

  • @DanTheMentor
    @DanTheMentor 3 місяці тому +5

    Just bought my c8 $10k off of sticker here in Dallas. It was a week of work and negotiations with 3 dealerships, but if you stay persistent and patient, the deals will come.

    • @SamC992
      @SamC992 3 місяці тому +2

      Nice great job!

    • @dave3657
      @dave3657 3 місяці тому +1

      But isn’t it a shame that you had to put in that much effort, to put money in their pocket. 😔

    • @DanTheMentor
      @DanTheMentor 3 місяці тому +1

      @@dave3657 exactly! Miss the days where they truly earned your business. There are some good salesman out there still, just have research for them unfortunately.

  • @rehabit-xd9me
    @rehabit-xd9me 3 місяці тому +8

    I tried to buy a ZO6 6 months ago. I worked out a deal. Then went to pay CASH they wouldn’t let me and told me I had to finance.

    • @cas5247
      @cas5247 3 місяці тому

      Why would you want to waist that much cash on a mass produced GM product😂 Zo6 prices are starting to go below MSRP. If you got that kind of money buy Italian or a limited 911 model and watch it increase.

    • @13salinaspride
      @13salinaspride 3 місяці тому +6

      ​@cas5247 lol I would pick a c8 z06 over a porche anyday. Porches aren't all that the zo6 is beautiful

    • @doughooks7411
      @doughooks7411 3 місяці тому +4

      @@cas5247Why would you “waist” money on a car when you could spend it on an education instead?

    • @russkunz3949
      @russkunz3949 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@doughooks7411waste money on a car versus a education...to stay away from the WOKE BULSHIT.

    • @kryptoknight.
      @kryptoknight. 3 місяці тому

      @@doughooks7411 Or a down payment on a " howse".

  • @Mikeselchow
    @Mikeselchow 3 місяці тому +2

    I was getting the run around on my zl1, called up Bergstrom Chevrolet in Neenah Wisconsin. Got exactly what i wanted and at msrp. There are still good dealers out here. Don’t settle for shitty one just because you want a car.

  • @alt5z
    @alt5z 3 місяці тому +1

    "STEALership" isn't just a play on words.
    They are popping up in record numbers across the country and they all follow
    the same script about car prices and that they don't make money from the car sales
    but from the service dept. NO. They just make even MORE copious amounts of $$ from that.

  • @NinjaKiller1022
    @NinjaKiller1022 2 місяці тому

    I was number 5 for a Z06 allocation and I had placed $5000 down as well. I did this right before the car was unveiled. They did not deliver and I was able to get my deposit back, so I was thankful for that.

  • @williamjones7821
    @williamjones7821 3 місяці тому +2

    I won't make a non-refundable deposit, nor pay over MSRP. Proud SATURN owner here.

  • @mwsourcetube
    @mwsourcetube 3 місяці тому +3

    I just got on their website and left a message on there chat to give him his money back. Left my info, lets see if they call me back. This is BS

  • @sly7891
    @sly7891 3 місяці тому +3

    These dealerships need to STOP IT! Thankfully us customers have people like yourself and TKs Garage…Etc that use your platforms to expose these dealerships. People are tired and these dealerships have to realize that we’re not gonna just keep accepting their shady practices.

  • @kpkp2655
    @kpkp2655 3 місяці тому +1

    Just came across this channel. Chevy no better than Dodge. And subbed!

  • @rodneygreenman8107
    @rodneygreenman8107 3 місяці тому +1

    I tried to buy a C-8 with my C-7 and $40k difference.When I said I would pay in cash they would NOT take the deal.They said they could not make any money like that.Why would I take out a loan at over 8% when I can pay cash???They now have 11new C-8s and 3 used.The one I wanted has been on the lot 48 days,and still there.

  • @doughooks7411
    @doughooks7411 3 місяці тому +1

    I remember when Racer X had an issue trying to get his. I commented on his video that he was fortunate to have a platform to broadcast it where most of us don’t, so I am happy to see you posting this in your friend’s defense. Perhaps some viewers in this community can ask the dealership about this situation in a Google review to “spread the love” to some potential future customers. Great video and content, Mike! 💪🇺🇸
    Update : I looked at the Google reviews from this particular dealership, DeNooyer Chevrolet in Holland, MI. Someone named “T” wrote a review about this exact event a week ago. It was apparently answered by someone at the dealership with either a reason or an excuse for the incident. I guess it depends on who you believe.

  • @billytrujillo8661
    @billytrujillo8661 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for sharing and for being an advocate of the Corvette community!

  • @fredanddebramacdonald2445
    @fredanddebramacdonald2445 3 місяці тому

    The last car we bought was a Certified Pre-owned with extremely low mileage, and what we ran into is that the dealer wouldn’t complete the deal because they couldn’t come up with the title. We finally did get the car, but it took nearly a month to get it done. The car (a 2017 Chevy Impala) has been great and was actually worth waiting for. The dealer (Bergstrom of Wisconsin) has been extremely good in all other respects, and I would actually recommend them. As I understand it, Bergstrom was just following the law, but it was frustrating at the time. All of Bergstrom’s deals are no dicker sticker type, so everyone would get the same deal on the same car no matter what. NICE!!

  • @wethepeoplestacking3501
    @wethepeoplestacking3501 3 місяці тому +2

    Yes 100% agree with you. I think you definitely did the right thing by the community for making this video 💪🏼

  • @chrisanderson3149
    @chrisanderson3149 3 місяці тому +2

    Mike, they just want the money! Some dealerships just suck. There are good ones and bad ones. IMO the epitome of a good one is Classic Chevy in Grapevine. I’ve bought 2 cars from them.

  • @jamesfogartysr2156
    @jamesfogartysr2156 3 місяці тому +1

    NEVER NEVER NEVER PUT A DEPOSIT ON BRAND NEW CAR.

  • @robertcirilli6577
    @robertcirilli6577 3 місяці тому +1

    Some dealers are getting so many cancelations after cars arrive that they have to put conditions on ordering, IE deposit.

  • @MrLowe-on8kc
    @MrLowe-on8kc 3 місяці тому +2

    The problem probably is that people have given the dealership too much power, If people stop buying cars, what would happen with the dealership?

  • @zachbackar5389
    @zachbackar5389 3 місяці тому +1

    It's always bait and switch with these Dealerships. Especially in Florida. Always finding ways to trick you with ridiculous add on's.

  • @steves2241
    @steves2241 3 місяці тому

    Very smart to file a complaint to the State Attorney General, I have done that myself 2 times and the State Attorney General got the situation fixed for me both times, it works in most cases. When the State Attorney General contacts them they know you are serious and you are not playing around.
    I would also file a complaint with the BBB, they do not like that, and that will also help to get the $5k deposit back.

  • @thomasangelo4219
    @thomasangelo4219 3 місяці тому +2

    Had a similar issue not with that particular dealership but it's ludicrous

  • @dominickmamone6196
    @dominickmamone6196 3 місяці тому +1

    Wow! We have a Denooyer Chevrolet dealership in Albany New York. UPSTATE

  • @ryanhicks5063
    @ryanhicks5063 3 місяці тому +1

    I ordered a 24 C8 and wasn't on a list at the dealer and they jumped me over at least 50 customers waiting on a list so I know dealer's do this all the time

  • @larryroberts4984
    @larryroberts4984 3 місяці тому +1

    It's like that woth everything. I got quoted for a new architect medal shingles 24 square 65k.

  • @davew9258
    @davew9258 3 місяці тому

    There is a simple step that you must take whenever putting down a deposit in this situation and that is to stipulate a time limit for the dealership to deliver the vehicle.
    The dealership knows in advance when they will have an open allocation and predict when an order will arrive. They can even build in additional time, and if it’s not acceptable then the buyer can seek an alternative dealership to do business with. Then if the deadline comes and the car hasn’t arrived, the buyer can decide if he wants to extend the deadline, or void the contract based on the dealership breaching the terms they agreed to. And then try to negotiate a lower price if the vehicle was scheduled to arrive soon, etc.
    Time limits should always be agreed to whenever signing a contract, so they can’t hold your money hostage until the terms are in their favor.

  • @gregoryh4601
    @gregoryh4601 3 місяці тому +1

    Sir just to add most Dealerships want to Sell one Vehicle that will pay all His Employees for one Week. And how KBB prices are way off from Dealerships prices. Greedy Dealerships are end up screwing themself .

  • @Oneproblemme101
    @Oneproblemme101 3 місяці тому +1

    My local Chevy dealer just sold a 3lt for 112,000 🤯

  • @vertisjohnson219
    @vertisjohnson219 3 місяці тому +1

    Thats why i waited 28 months for my 2023 C8. Local dealership in Cali wanted 52k above MSRP, others wanted 10k above MSRP. Either way i refused to pay either it.

  • @thereissomecoolstuff
    @thereissomecoolstuff 3 місяці тому +4

    Look at the lot. There are bunches of cars now. They aren’t selling. They are trying to get every Penney they can. I had a hell of a problem with GM trying to get my $5k for keeping my Z06. GM is not my favorite customer service experience.

    • @BrinkofSpeed
      @BrinkofSpeed  3 місяці тому +2

      That sucks man, I’m glad you got it back.

  • @vollste
    @vollste 3 місяці тому

    I used to work in Holland and people always called them “Destroyer” Chevrolet.

  • @kevinkasperski3879
    @kevinkasperski3879 3 місяці тому +1

    $5000 deposit for a Stingray? That was the first mistake by the customer.......

  • @owenmccafferty9295
    @owenmccafferty9295 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for producing this video. Forewarned is forearmed. You have radified my decision to keep my 17+ year Acura TL-S with 6 speed..

  • @timothyburnside3229
    @timothyburnside3229 3 місяці тому

    Here is my recent story about bad dealership and brand practices! I have leased seven GM vehicles including four GMC trucks all on 3-year lease terms! After last lease in 2021 GM altered lease policy to only allow you to sell leased product back to GM dealer, you could not sell to car max or another brand and pocket equity! After going to three GM dealerships and getting low ball offers of 36-38000 for a Black Denali with 3.0 Duramax! They refused to discount and with terrible residual payments were over $1000.00 for new GMC truck! I found a Ford dealer out of town that also owned a GM Chevy dealership, traded it to them, got $42,000, bought Ford F 150 XLT with 18,000 miles per year for 36 months for $719.00 per month! Do not get screwed by this rule! Find a dealer with multiple brands that will pay more for your GMC brand and buy what you want with good discounts! Dealers outside of major towns will deal and pay more for trades!

  • @JaguarKwikE
    @JaguarKwikE 3 місяці тому +4

    This is a bait and switch fraud situation

  • @regsmith7604
    @regsmith7604 3 місяці тому +1

    I say sue all dealerships that try to charge over MSRP. Take their money. Have the courts go bad on them. This is the only way.

  • @kevndo
    @kevndo 3 місяці тому +1

    Gotta blame the manufacturer for allowing them to set prices.

  • @kenichitamagusuku3194
    @kenichitamagusuku3194 3 місяці тому +2

    Any cost over MSRP is ripping us off in my opinion. Any deposit paid must include any interest if money is requested back.

  • @garyszewc3339
    @garyszewc3339 3 місяці тому +1

    The Dodge dealerships are getting away with it, because it's a special car, just like Ford did with the GT40. Corvettes are nothing special. My pickup cost more than a standard Corvette. I was able to order it with $1,000 down, and by the next day, I got confirmation of my order. After 3 days, I had the VIN. I paid $15,000 less than sticker. You need to choose your dealer wisely.

  • @OMEGATECH
    @OMEGATECH 3 місяці тому +1

    WoW!!! it is so unfortunate that there are so many stealerships out there!!!, I mean I know they have to do business but doing the old bait and switch or Shell Games is totally wrong and pathetic🤬

  • @ericbuttry9079
    @ericbuttry9079 3 місяці тому

    I tried to buy a new truck from them in January and they low balled me on my trade in. They offered me 10k less than other dealers and wasn’t willing to negotiate so I bought my new truck from another dealer. After I got my new truck from another dealer they called me to follow up and was upset I bought the truck somewhere else and acted like I wasted their time. So not the worst experience in the world but I won’t waste my time dealing with them when I order my C8.

  • @pho1773
    @pho1773 2 місяці тому

    To answer your question: Dealers are freaked out about customers leaving deposits at multiple dealerships, having each dealer secure an order that is tailored for them (not the next guy on the list), and then leaving them at the altar jilted when another dealer gets the car in sooner. That happens a lot if a dealer doesn’t contract and enforce that a significant deposit is non refundable. That policy has to have teeth or it will get abused into ineffectiveness.
    When it happens it puts not only the dealer in an unfair position, but everyone downstream on their list who now has to wait longer for their car. And I don’t know of any car that was a larger target for that with all the post-Covid vette flipping.
    It’s also telling that when Joe reported his transaction to the credit card company (they almost always side with their customer no matter what) the credit card company sided with the dealer…. He’d have his money now if they didn’t, so you know it’s true that theres more to this story.

  • @loganbarr853
    @loganbarr853 3 місяці тому

    Call TK’s garage!!!!! This is right up his alley. Pinkies out. Petty Jefferson time.

  • @rayjackson4547
    @rayjackson4547 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for the info, but it took a long time to get there.

  • @Temperature956
    @Temperature956 3 місяці тому +1

    bro here in mcallen texas where i live fiesta chevrolet marked up a zo6 they wanted i think $250,000 i was like wtf !!!!!!!!!!!! sad part is that it sold !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Rome__king
    @Rome__king 3 місяці тому +2

    they will definitely try, but we try to always look out for the next amen!

  • @LARRY-mn5cx
    @LARRY-mn5cx 3 місяці тому +3

    I have bought 7 cars from them if its the one in Kalamazoo including my 2022 c8 with no issues. ( i do know there is another dealership with the same name in Grand Rapids that i think is some family member i have not delt with.)

    • @BrinkofSpeed
      @BrinkofSpeed  3 місяці тому +2

      I actually misspoke, this is the one in Holland Michigan.

    • @CiaoBellaItalianGirl
      @CiaoBellaItalianGirl 3 місяці тому +1

      Please write this in the description on the video then, unfair of you to bash a dealer with the same name and no affiliation to the other dealer. Make it right, this is the dealer in HOLLAND MI!!!!!!!!!@@BrinkofSpeed

  • @leesylvester8713
    @leesylvester8713 3 місяці тому

    My father in law just ordered a new 2024 Z06 (and received it in 2 months) for $1500 under MSRP. Wisconsin dealer.

  • @rodneygreenman8107
    @rodneygreenman8107 3 місяці тому

    Thank you! I guess you just cant be honest any more.When you pay it off like you said ,how do I work the payment book when I send them the whole amount?

  • @theponycargarage1453
    @theponycargarage1453 3 місяці тому

    File suit at the most local level, small-claims if the value is within the limits of small claims in that jurisdiction.
    As soon as the dealer sees they will need to send an attorney somewhere, they will return the funds.

  • @thomasjollon3483
    @thomasjollon3483 3 місяці тому

    Ran a chevy dealership for many years,never took a deposit on any vehicle in high demand.someone would be glade to step up and buy a vehicle that the ordering person orderd.that dealer needs new management

  • @6538970
    @6538970 3 місяці тому +1

    Meanwhile people are struggling to pay bills and buy groceries

  • @garystevens1044
    @garystevens1044 3 місяці тому

    It’s not just the vette community it’s all of us CAR ENTHUSIASTS AND THE CAR CULTURE!

  • @LtKaptain
    @LtKaptain 3 місяці тому +3

    Because they are car salesman!!! Crooked

    • @stebecinc
      @stebecinc 3 місяці тому

      It is not the salesperson It is the dirt bag manager. I sold GM for 36 years and a lot of managers & sales managers are really bad and dishonest

  • @GrifFungin
    @GrifFungin 3 місяці тому

    10:25
    Wrong! It’s illegal
    To keep a deposit on a car if they don’t fully deliver the car across the curb.
    This may be state specific, but in Louisiana I know that’s correct for sure.

  • @tripac3392
    @tripac3392 3 місяці тому +1

    People need to learn real simple terms like I want that in writing by the manager. And get the s*** in writing. You got to have proof. I work in the trucking industry so I get everything in writing or I don't do it

  • @DreDayKickz
    @DreDayKickz 3 місяці тому +4

    I really hate hearing these stories about dealer greed it’s crazy I’ve never paid MSRP OR OVER and I will not ever not on something that will depreciate like these cars do and as bad as I want a C8 Z06 I’ll continue to wait it out great video by the way. I’m a local photographer so if you ever wanna link let me know 🤝🏾

    • @_hashtag
      @_hashtag 3 місяці тому

      😂😂😂😂😂😂. You must have a good 🎱 plug. Waiting to get a Z06 below MSRP. Hahahahahahahajjaja

    • @DreDayKickz
      @DreDayKickz 3 місяці тому

      @@_hashtag I love a good troll

    • @_hashtag
      @_hashtag 3 місяці тому

      @@DreDayKickz below MSRP 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @mitchellkaplan613
    @mitchellkaplan613 3 місяці тому +1

    The games are ridiculous I can’t wait to tell them I will give them 25,000 under MSRP as a market adjustment

  • @joelpierce3940
    @joelpierce3940 3 місяці тому +2

    On principle I won’t pay jacked up prices for a Corvette. I will just keep my 19 ZO6. I don’t need the latest and greatest.

  • @user-rb1qm1tz1l
    @user-rb1qm1tz1l 3 місяці тому

    I believe my local dealership did the same shit moving people around on the z06 list my friend put his deposit on May 2021 I put my on June 2021 He got his Z06 and I’m still waiting🤬

  • @tomb6670
    @tomb6670 3 місяці тому +2

    They tried to screw HPO until he did a video and then all of a sudden it was a “mistake”

  • @atienooij
    @atienooij 3 місяці тому

    thanks for sharing the story

  • @Liveforfood9394
    @Liveforfood9394 3 місяці тому +1

    Those dealer ships will get a huge problem when the economy is bad!

  • @horstschoninger1265
    @horstschoninger1265 3 місяці тому

    I would call around for a dealer for sticker price. No money in front. Even when I have to wait for some weeks. There is always a dealer who sell for sticker price. For some is a little bird in the hand better than the big bird on the roof.

  • @stephenr115
    @stephenr115 3 місяці тому +1

    You get nowhere filing all that stuff, got to file a lawsuit where attorney fees could be awarded. Spinning wheels unless you do that. From one who knows. A lawyer letter often works.

  • @dd9354
    @dd9354 3 місяці тому +1

    I'd report this dealer to the Chevrolet brass.

  • @stephenlehtinen5582
    @stephenlehtinen5582 3 місяці тому +1

    I would say now the 5000 is now worth 500000 since o couldn’t make any interest

  • @the_track_enthusiast
    @the_track_enthusiast 3 місяці тому

    Don’t let dealers play you. Even paying MSRP is a rip off. You’ll be upside down from year 1. Just hold out. There is blood in the water.

  • @stephenlehtinen5582
    @stephenlehtinen5582 3 місяці тому +1

    Consumer affairs commission that company should be out of business

  • @stebecinc
    @stebecinc 3 місяці тому +3

    Denoyer of Holland used to be a good dealer. I said used to be now they are truly bad

  • @robertmyers6488
    @robertmyers6488 3 місяці тому +1

    The implied warranty of good faith and fair dealing.

  • @kalvin9861
    @kalvin9861 3 місяці тому

    Stonebriar Chevrolet has been charging over MSRP so I decided to wait for the market to calm the F down and I found my spec almost exactly the way I wanted it 3LT for 79k it was worth the wait and it was 19k under market value when I made my purchase so there’s great deals out there if you are patient and keep your eyes peeled.

  • @user-ss7et7ud4j
    @user-ss7et7ud4j 3 місяці тому

    File a case with the bbb in the township that the dealer is at. Explain the situation and let them leverage their business license to do business in that town over returning your deposit. You have to play hard ball with them

  • @JayDKB
    @JayDKB 3 місяці тому

    I hate dealerships especially chevy dealerships. My 2017 Corvette GS was a lemon and terrible repair from the dealership. I just finally had to let it go.