.45-70 Springfield Trapdoor VS Civil War Springfield Rifle Musket .58 Caliber

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  • @Anchor-Supreme
    @Anchor-Supreme 2 роки тому +47

    Love the Trapdoors. There’s just something so satisfying with shooting, popping open the door and seeing the spent round fly out.

  • @Matzah1982
    @Matzah1982 2 роки тому +6

    The .45-70 Springfield trap door carbine is my favorite firearm of all time. I love it when Mr. Hickok shoots the steel targets with the muzzle loaders and antique black powder cartridge guns and early smokeless powder cartridge guns like the bolt action Mausers and Mosin Nagants and .30-40 Krag and 1903 Springfield and .303 Enfield rifles

  • @markjohnson7030
    @markjohnson7030 2 роки тому +47

    As a soldier from 1864 I can tell you the Improvement was immense. For instance, I never had to worry about my lieutenant yelling at me for losing my Ramming Rod.. *Again.*

  • @davidbucher2086
    @davidbucher2086 2 роки тому +24

    Love it when you do the old guns

  • @AllAboutSurvival
    @AllAboutSurvival 2 роки тому +13

    These three almost look alike. One is just longer I guess so we’ll have to see how hickok shows his skills using these guns. Love it

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 2 роки тому +1

      They look alike because they all started off as the model 1842.

  • @FrednDeeDee
    @FrednDeeDee 2 роки тому +2

    We own four flintlock smoke poles and then I bought an 1873 Trapdoor, and my flintlocks are now collecting dust. I just love shooting my old Springfield Infantry Rifle that much. The old boy is going out deer hunting with me starting this coming season. My modern rifles are starting to get a little dusty as well. Only our revolvers are still getting plenty of use at the indoor range. My Sweetie Pie still shoots her flintlock and her .243 and her revolvers. I bought her and I 12-gauge single shot shotguns and we haven't fired a shot through either of them yet. It's time to get back to enjoying the shooting sports again. We both retired and spent a ton of time refurbishing the house and property and now with all that behind us we can concentrate on being retired and having fun.

  • @KoxenBols
    @KoxenBols 2 роки тому +2

    You know you chose the right hobby when you're that age and it still makes you laugh

  • @brianlykins6663
    @brianlykins6663 2 роки тому +2

    Keep a single shot rather than go to lever action. Army brass and politicians screwing over the service man from 1865 to 2022.
    Love your videos, the firearms, the history lessons and the excellent display of marksmanship.
    God bless you sir and hope to see your videos for a long time.

  • @charleswebb5797
    @charleswebb5797 2 роки тому +1

    In 1959 I bought a trap door for $20 ! I love the way it handles and shoots. The 45-70 cartridge is unique and impressive. The rifle is in my office - from time to time I get it out to just look at it.

  • @IPEsometimes
    @IPEsometimes 2 роки тому +3

    Saw a whole row of the Trapdoor rifles at a gun store just down the road, gonna have to pick one up someday since I have an ever-lasting love for those gorgeous rifles.

  • @Free-Bodge79
    @Free-Bodge79 2 роки тому +5

    Brilliant stuff. Always surprised at the speed of the old stuff . I don't know why but for some reason it always gets me. Thank you sir. You're a gentleman and a scholar 💯👊💛

  • @tonnywildweasel8138
    @tonnywildweasel8138 2 роки тому +5

    Gues you don't want to mix the ammo up :-)
    Happy cleaning! Great vid again 👍

  • @loopeyshooter503
    @loopeyshooter503 2 роки тому +1

    These history and evolution of firearms videos are a great compliment to the rest of your content. Thanks again Hickok for yet another very enjoyable video.

  • @johnmullin4136
    @johnmullin4136 2 роки тому +1

    I just saw you in a zombie movie! best ending ever haha "hopefully not one of my subscribers" Awesome cameo sir!

    • @hickok45
      @hickok45  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks.

    • @johnmullin4136
      @johnmullin4136 2 роки тому

      @@hickok45 Loved the lever gun you used in the movie, kind of a throw back to Night of the living dead and the lever gun they used in that movie.

  • @bobbyhouston5058
    @bobbyhouston5058 2 роки тому +1

    I would never shoot my Model 1816 Type II (c. 1829), so I live vicariously through your videos - thank you sir!

  • @rickydowling2920
    @rickydowling2920 2 роки тому +6

    Great video, loved the historical info. Was fascinated to hear the copper cartridge vs brass and that it may have been one of the reasons why the 7th Cavalry met its demise at little big horn.

    • @Jason75913
      @Jason75913 2 роки тому +1

      They lost because of using inferior firearms to what the Natives were using, and the Natives both outnumbered and outmaneuvered them badly above all. Custer and his officers lacked intel on their enemies, too. The battle, and attempted retreat, was botched hard.

  • @bhoward9378
    @bhoward9378 2 роки тому +2

    Great to see these two classic models compared.

  • @Nick-iy5si
    @Nick-iy5si 2 роки тому +2

    Hickok45's daddy must have been one heck of a pistol.
    'Cause he sure made one shootin' "SON OF A GUN!"

  • @georgebottarini1788
    @georgebottarini1788 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you. I really enjoy these videos about the older rifles.

  • @SaHaRaErha
    @SaHaRaErha 2 роки тому +4

    好喜欢老爷爷的视频,祝福老爷爷身体健康,一切顺利

  • @johnriggs9016
    @johnriggs9016 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you Hickok ! I really enjoy my cva scout single shot.

  • @shamsam4
    @shamsam4 2 роки тому

    "This won't be one of our forty minute videos". I love your forty minute videos.

  • @douglascox9996
    @douglascox9996 2 роки тому +1

    Springfield Trapdoor 1873 was my very first rifle ($30). As a skinny teenager, I really had to lean into it to keep my footing against the recoil. The 50-70 Trapdoor proved the concept in combat at the Battle of the Wagon Box when a wood collecting party was hit by a much larger body of “hostiles” who were used to riding down soldiers after their first volley caused them to reload their muzzleloaders. The faster reloading Trapdoors were new to the “hostiles” and broke up their mounted charges with many casualties until they “retired from the field” to reconsider their tactics.

    • @douglascox9996
      @douglascox9996 Рік тому

      @BradynLee $30 actual in 1958, “fresh” from Bannerman’s whose warehouse was on an island in NY harbor near Liberty Island. Original surplus US Govt black powder ammo was available (later brass cases, not the early folded and rolled copper cases) at about $2.00 per 20-round box. I know, I should have bought 10 of the rifles at the time, but my total take home pay at the time was less than $200/month.

  • @jonathanhill7096
    @jonathanhill7096 2 роки тому +1

    Two of my favorite rifles. Hopefully one day I will be able to acquire one of each. Until then, thank you for sharing.

  • @tomgriffiths68
    @tomgriffiths68 2 роки тому +4

    I really like the carbine. I had a full length at one point, and it was unwieldy. Kind of like the difference between the 91/30 Nagant vs an M38 or M44.

  • @proudgermanamerican.
    @proudgermanamerican. 2 роки тому +2

    I’ve always loved the Springfield Rifle!

  • @BikeThrottleOfficial
    @BikeThrottleOfficial 2 роки тому +2

    Love watching the process involved in this sort of shooting!

  • @joedogg2112
    @joedogg2112 2 роки тому +1

    Every firearm i have bought I’ve watched your review, thanks for the info

  • @jackpinesavage9806
    @jackpinesavage9806 2 роки тому

    Hunting antelope in south Wyoming, I looked down and saw three cartridge cases in a bunch and one more off a couple inches. This was on top of a small rise on high ground with good view of prairie all around. I sent a picture to the Wyoming university and was told that they were what Hickock has there, and was most likely from a provision hunter for the railroad shooting prairie game to feed the workers. I don't know if the railroad guys would willingly eat gnarly antelope meat or he was shooting buffalo. Oddest thing was the internal primer. They were copper casing.

  • @JoeJoGEHrt
    @JoeJoGEHrt 10 місяців тому

    The Trapdoor inspired me to design the "Thunder Strom 1578" rifle in Armonic Bellum, was a Humungus skip considering the base model was the equivalent of the flinklock "Bess"...

  • @richardzacamy4605
    @richardzacamy4605 2 роки тому +1

    My Dad has both of these rifles. They shoot Great.

  • @wyattgarcia2590
    @wyattgarcia2590 2 роки тому

    The trap door is one of my favorite historic firearms due to how it came to be.

  • @loboheeler
    @loboheeler 2 роки тому

    The conversion of the Springfield from percussion to cartridge was clever and significant. The 1873 models were not conversions, but new built. As far as Little Big Horn, the Indians did use some lever actions, as the speed was more close to what they were used to with bows. The US Calvary dismounted, as you could not shoot a heavy rifle from horseback.

  • @freda1078
    @freda1078 2 роки тому

    Thank you for video. I have a Springfield 1884 trapdoor with a bayonet on it. We tried using it for a duck gun with a 410 shell, the pattern was so wide they could fly through it and honk at us.

  • @3ducs
    @3ducs 2 роки тому +3

    Looks like a Springfield Model of 1861 to me, made in 1862. I have one just like it, also made in 1862.

  • @badatom5467
    @badatom5467 2 роки тому

    Out of all the guns you shoot. The trapdoor Springfield is by far my favourite

  • @biggerbehindthetrigger2814
    @biggerbehindthetrigger2814 2 роки тому +1

    I love the trapdoor carbines. I have had 2 of them.

  • @scottramsey3358
    @scottramsey3358 2 роки тому +2

    I thought that was a giant rim fire cartridge on the table, turns out it was a old copper cased 45-70 round.

  • @crypto1300
    @crypto1300 2 роки тому +1

    Aloha from Hawaii's 2A community 🤙🏾

  • @davidmcgahan5328
    @davidmcgahan5328 2 роки тому

    Love your videos on the old gun's I learn a lot from you thanks.

  • @larcombs
    @larcombs 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks again , entertaining and informative

  • @leroycaudill96
    @leroycaudill96 2 роки тому

    THANK'S HICKOK LOVE THESE OLD RIFLES.

  • @matteoorlandi856
    @matteoorlandi856 2 роки тому +1

    I have a pedersoli 1861 replica... Best rifle ever bought!

  • @Jaris84R
    @Jaris84R 2 роки тому +1

    Heth learned the advantage of non-muzzle loaders from Bufford

  • @DevUpadhyay7
    @DevUpadhyay7 2 роки тому +6

    Love u sir from india ❤❤🇮🇳

  • @MrLoewe23
    @MrLoewe23 2 роки тому +2

    Never done a request but I'd love to see a video about the Remington Model 81 Woodsmaster 🙂

  • @diazj775
    @diazj775 2 роки тому

    Love rapid fire! But the more work it is to load a gun the more fun it is to shoot. That’s my opinion and I always have good opinions… always!!!

  • @nickborgman8105
    @nickborgman8105 2 роки тому

    I have an 1873 Springfield trap door carbine. Pre Custer 45-70.

  • @timsmith9645
    @timsmith9645 2 роки тому

    Awesome rifles I would love to shoot one thanks for sharing Hickok45

  • @JzuzGarcia
    @JzuzGarcia 2 роки тому

    I'm gonna be hones, buds gun shop got me some sweet, easy ammo. Shoutout to Buds

  • @joshuajones9281
    @joshuajones9281 2 роки тому +3

    He did three shots in 29 seconds. When he had gun at the ready.

  • @tadyedejen3011
    @tadyedejen3011 2 роки тому

    Heyy hickok45 thanks for every thing to do.

  • @anaphylastiks
    @anaphylastiks 2 роки тому

    4570 trapdoor. Basically my favourite gun.

  • @kenpeek104
    @kenpeek104 2 роки тому

    Love watching this man even though he talks about us up here in Kentucky lol

  • @southernbuck101georgia2
    @southernbuck101georgia2 2 роки тому

    Mornin,Sir.
    I traded for a Trapdoor Springfield with a Bayonet and a spade attachment that mounted to the bayonet lug, when I was 11 or 12 years old.
    It was longer than I was tall at the time, but I managed to shoot it.
    Needless to say it got traded off later on.
    It wasn't quite as nice as yours, but I still would like to have it back

  • @chrisgabbert658
    @chrisgabbert658 2 роки тому

    Black powder was the thing for what 250ish years and then the cartridge and here we are today. 👍😊

  • @raymondquinn833
    @raymondquinn833 2 роки тому

    Love black powder
    I have both and have lots of fun with both

  • @randallbyrd1973
    @randallbyrd1973 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome video TY for sharing

  • @casso_4974
    @casso_4974 2 роки тому +3

    Of course he was good with the musket, we all know he fought in the civil war.

  • @stardog62
    @stardog62 2 роки тому

    I have read that the trapdoor Springfield was also used by regiments of the militia in the Spanish-American War. Teddy Roosevelt's Rough Riders were the only volunteer regiment to use Krag-Jorgensens. I guess that's the kind of advantage you get when you're led by the former Secretary of the Navy

  • @michaelrubenstein8527
    @michaelrubenstein8527 2 роки тому

    Just finished reading the latest James Lee Burke and he references the trapdoor. He also obliquely references Garand thumb owie twice :)

  • @RussWenner
    @RussWenner 2 роки тому

    Hi Hickok! Will you be at the Contemporary Longrifle Association Show in Lexington, KY on August 19th & 20th? If so I hope to meet you there! It will be the first time there for me.

  • @johncusimano5164
    @johncusimano5164 2 роки тому

    Great video - any chance on making a basic care video on the trapdoor Springfield?

  • @alanw1775
    @alanw1775 2 роки тому

    But we were still using single shot trapdoors through the 1880s when other nations had adopted magazine rifles such as the kropatschek, mauser 1871/84, vetterli-vitali 1870/87, beaumont-vitali 1871/88, jarmann 1884, murata type 22, (most these were single shots adapted to magazine rifles) and even more advanced arms like the lebel 1886, gewehr 1888, schmidt-rubin 1889, mauser 1889, and lee-metford. Soon after we adopted the krag but by that point, it was outclassed by the mauser and mannlicher systems. We were behind the bell curve. This was an era of rapidly advancing small arms technology, and things were becoming obsolete fast. Ya'll know the story, the curmudgeon us military officers thought repeaters were a waste of ammo. Although there was an early repeater adopted by the us, the winchester hotchkiss, but it was withdrawn after the trapdoor was deemed superior.

  • @franka9760
    @franka9760 2 роки тому +1

    Do you have any knowledge of the formulation used in the steel in these vintage firearms? And were different steels used for different parts of the rifle? Thanks much!

  • @phoenixcd9309
    @phoenixcd9309 2 роки тому +1

    If you have any access to napoleonic era muskets/replicas can you do a video on them? I enjoy the napoleonic wars and napoleonic video games. It would be interesting

  • @anaphylastiks
    @anaphylastiks 2 роки тому

    I wait for the gems to come out.

  • @earlsworkshop
    @earlsworkshop 2 роки тому

    I love them old black powder, big bore breech loaders. My 1884 Model 45-70 Springfield Trapdoor and my Nepalese-made .577 Snider are so much fun to shoot. Even though the 45-70 cartridges are still available and you pretty much have to make your own .577 Snider cartridges both are fun to re-load and don't cost that much if you do it yourself.
    But, in all seriousness, those neighbors of yours in nearby Kentucky are in trouble. How or what do you recommend that WE, your subscribers, can do to help out those Kentuckians who have been affected by the massive flooding that has occurred over the past few days? Lots of folks have lost everything, including loved ones. Asking because you know we have your back, and even small donations of money or resources from some of your 6.9 million subscribers can make a HUGE difference. What can we do?

  • @bi0hazard921
    @bi0hazard921 2 роки тому

    Good morning everyone, happy Friday! ☀️

  • @jeffe.9904
    @jeffe.9904 2 роки тому

    Another great video Sir but, what happened to your rear Trap Door sight? 😀

  • @MrOlgrumpy
    @MrOlgrumpy 2 роки тому

    I had a trapdoor built by H & R back in the 70s in 45/70,quite fast action with a little practice,but the stock shape is not user friendly, well nose friendly. 🙃

  • @urunclecheesema9172
    @urunclecheesema9172 2 роки тому

    This guy has great aim

  • @michaelperez5822
    @michaelperez5822 2 роки тому

    I love those Coassic Gun's😨😨🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸😀😀😀😀😀U are Cool and Awesome Hitchcock

  • @meaghankelly3887
    @meaghankelly3887 2 роки тому

    I have a Springfield carbine. Family story is it s from a great great uncle. Nobody left to ask. Must find a qualified gun smith. Never considered it may be operational. Love to restore…… and fire . 💃🏽

  • @curtasmus938
    @curtasmus938 2 роки тому

    Love the date 1802

  • @saroarrony3621
    @saroarrony3621 2 роки тому

    Thank you pa it's working ❤️

  • @michaelboyce5291
    @michaelboyce5291 2 роки тому

    Hey Hickock45. I've been trying to find your online store to purchase a couple of hats, and maybe a t-shirt but I can't find a link. A mate of mine bought me a "Life is Good" hat a few years back and it's starting to look tired so I want to replace it and repay his kindness by purchasing him one also. We're from Australia, and we just love your videos. My whole gun club now watches and you're usually the main topic during the matches. If you can please let me know where I can purchase I'd be really grateful. Cheers

    • @hickok45
      @hickok45  2 роки тому

      Bud's is handling our hats and such.

  • @jordanezell5132
    @jordanezell5132 2 роки тому

    It would be cool to have a trapdoor pistol

  • @justinweaver8787
    @justinweaver8787 2 роки тому

    Love the trap door

  • @almontes4768
    @almontes4768 2 роки тому

    I saw a video of a teenager casually spray twenty bullets, while driving ... Times have changed.

  • @pastlast158
    @pastlast158 2 роки тому

    I have a request, irrelevant to this video🙂 could you review a kimber eclipse custom ii 45?
    Thanks

  • @taleb.alarefi
    @taleb.alarefi 2 роки тому +1

    I adore this rifle, how much is it? Thank you

    • @bjbeardse
      @bjbeardse 2 роки тому

      Last time I saw a trapdoor in a shop it was $2500 for a kind beat up one, 12 years ago. Gunbroker has some listed.

  • @hermannvogel9239
    @hermannvogel9239 2 роки тому

    How are you guys doing with all the rain

  • @snicklefritz4209
    @snicklefritz4209 2 роки тому

    Reminded me of the Springfield from rdr2

  • @sentero1856
    @sentero1856 2 роки тому

    what about a chapter 2 colt trooper?

  • @j.briancoleman2456
    @j.briancoleman2456 2 роки тому

    Hickok isn’t the muzzle loader a 1861 Springfield not a 1841?

    • @hickok45
      @hickok45  2 роки тому

      Yes, it's a Model 1861.

  • @AP-ib7rf
    @AP-ib7rf 2 роки тому

    hi hickok45. who is your camera person? and, is it always the same person?

  • @diazj775
    @diazj775 2 роки тому

    Where can I buy a cap pocket Carhart shirt Probably Amazon

  • @bjagfan9452
    @bjagfan9452 2 роки тому

    Beautiful rifles

  • @joshneihart6167
    @joshneihart6167 2 роки тому

    What is your most favorite rifle

  • @meiadonchakma2163
    @meiadonchakma2163 2 роки тому

    How much price sir...?

  • @moondude4379
    @moondude4379 2 роки тому

    Hey Hickok, just wondering what your opinion is on the new HR1808 bill that just passed the house.

    • @hickok45
      @hickok45  2 роки тому +3

      Just more B.S. from shallow politicians. Elections matter.

    • @grassroot011
      @grassroot011 2 роки тому

      @@hickok45 Election matter if they are legit, honest. Otherwise it's all out the window.

  • @marianopereira7978
    @marianopereira7978 2 роки тому +1

    Eu também atiro muito bem com espingarda

  • @seanbreheny9777
    @seanbreheny9777 2 роки тому

    Awesome video! I am a bit puzzled, though. You say that your musket was made in 1842 but the date on the side plate looks like 1862 and your video description says 1861. Which is it?!

    • @3ducs
      @3ducs 2 роки тому

      Grampa gittin a bit confused? '45 makes several vids at a time, I think he has a Harper's Ferry 1842 that he was shooting around the same time.

  • @undestony2669
    @undestony2669 2 роки тому

    i feel like trapdoor springfields can be used in home alone movies

  • @ugurarslan255
    @ugurarslan255 2 роки тому +2

    Nice

  • @pearldrmr55
    @pearldrmr55 2 роки тому

    I have a 75th anniversary savage arms 1895 308 if you'd be interested to shoot it.

  • @Ut005A
    @Ut005A 2 роки тому

    "Big advantage " it hits the target immediately after the trigger is pulled! Lol!

  • @Old_8_gauge
    @Old_8_gauge 2 роки тому

    I believe the army only started marksmanship practice in the 1870's. May be wrong.

  • @gerrypowell2748
    @gerrypowell2748 2 роки тому

    Perhaps cartridges if used extensively in the American civil war may have had an even larger casualty rate that what it actually had experienced😢