The Springfield Trapdoor Rifle
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- The Springfield Trapdoor Rifle
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***Correction: Little Bighorn Battle was in Montana, not S. Dakota.****
Happy international cowboy day
Yes sir. Right off I-90 in Crow Agency, MT on the Crow Indian Reservation.
I'm sorry you got that wrong and making a correction here won't fix it. You'll have to spend time in Purgatory (Colorado) for that 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@kmorris180 Purgatory is in Colorado??? I thought it was in the Sonoran Desert! Damn. Shouldn't have taken that left turn at Albuquerque.
@@bradywells6447 Thank You!
My dad picked up a 1873 infantry trapdoor back when he was young, thinking he would use it for hunting. Got it at a pawn shop and rode with it home on the street car. Nobody batted an eye. Doubt you could do that again today. I still have it today.
I bet it's accurate.
Way less streetcars now, which imho is a shame.
He KNEW he could use it for hunting lol
I have my great grandfather's Winchester model 12 stamped 1928 when he bought it. He had that shotgun all through the depression into to 70s when my father had it. Taken so much game and still kicking. Snowshoes, fat Grey's grouse, it's all about taking care of your gun.
Don't get me about the winny 94 that my grandpa found in a basement moving into his apartment in Albany NY in 1957🤣
Thank you all for all the hard work you put into these. It literally makes me Saturday’s
Glad you enjoy it!
I had an original trapdoor carbine, a wedding gift from my wife (in 1971), but a burglar took it a couple years later. I later bought a replica that shoots very accurately. One of my favorites.
Oh wow!
Santee, *you and your comrades entertain and inform many of us, through so many diverse ways, week after week. I don't know how you do it, but I'm so grateful you do.
THANK YOU 👏🤠👏 top-notch as ALWAYS
Wow, thank you
I remember this gun well cause I learned about it from the old show Wild West Tech, faults and all it's still one of the more successful conversions in firearms history. Also, it's worth pointing out another and bigger reason for the Army not adopting a lever-action was due to, as usual, money as he guns cost a pretty penny in the day. But a very forgotten issue was ammo as Henrys of the time weren't ammo compatible so new ammo would need to be made and shipped en masse. Now imagine trying to supply outposts and forts in potentially hostile territory to complicate things further. I would recommend peeking at InRange TV for a interesting what-if idea of Henrys getting issued in a very well-thought out way, it also expands on more reasons the gun never got adopted.
Not to mention the relatively complicated mechanisms in the repeaters of the time, as opposed to the simple ones on the Springfield.
Great firearm. Action is sweet
I found one in a gun shop for $400 a few years ago. According to the serial number, I believe it was manufactured in 1973. Quite happy with the find.
So, a reproduction model. I hope you picked it up!
Cool
Should have read 1873.
Another great history lesson from Santee & Co.
Glad you enjoyed it
As a kid living on the Pine Ridge reservation, I hunted with an 1873 TD carbine that was taken from the field. My great uncle said it was from a trooper in the fight at the Greasy Grass. It had belonged to his father.
I brought in alot of game with it. Kept the range within a hundred yards, as the loads were built with an old Ideal tong tool, with cast bullets and black powder. We used 55gr. and cornmeal filler. At 12 years old, that was a good load that didn't knock me silly when fired.😲
That carbine was later given to an older cousin, as was tradition.
I hope it's still in the family.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Oh it is. Lakota pass things down within the family. My great uncle let me use the weapon to hunt as he knew I'd bring back meat. And when I got a 1903A3 Springfield in 30'06, I'd be reaching out to bringing in pronghorn antelope. Then, with a better weapon to hunt with, the trapdoor was passed down to the eldest of the cousins. It was "on loan" to me because I could shoot well and was good at hunting.
3:06 .... "Custer met defeat in South Dakota" ...... Hmmm, I'm thinking maybe the Montana Board of Tourism may want to have a word with you, Santee. Might want to wear your arrow proof vest for that meeting 😁
Yeah, already corrected that in the comments and description field. I had the wrong region in my mind when I was typing.
19th century militaries take a lot of flack for not going whole hog on repeating firearms ASAP. But there were a host of good reasons from their viewpoint.
The first is that they were expensive. Nations back then weren’t rich on the scale they are today. Income tax and populations that could afford it and would tolerate it didn’t exist. The US Army discarding the mountain of Civil War surplus rifles for brand new guns would’ve seemed insane.
The other reason was logistics. Most European nations at the time projected power at the edge or beyond their already expensive rail, road, and ocean transport abilities. Even with rail there were many miles that required moving supplies through mountains and desert on wagons or donkeys. Yes, an army could win a pitched battle easily with repeating arms. But they were fighting long _campaigns,_ not necessarily pitched battles. Once the ammo ran out the troops would be left with bayonets vs. much larger native armies. Enemies fighting with home advantage and much better trained and equipped for hand to hand combat.
Yeah. a lot of poor decisions due to finances. However, it's a terrificly accurate firearm.
As a political science major, I remember them saying that the biggest advancement in rifle was during the time of the pioneer times. Most of the mechanisms are still the same of similar. Very cool story Santee. 👍👍👍
Thanks, and the industrial age was quite impressive!
The biggest advancements came when someone came up with the ability to measure SMALL measurements. If you can go to 1000th of an inch, you can duplicate parts over and over. That’s what spurred the Industrial Revolution.
Now I know it's been a few years since I've done historical interpretation at the old fort Laramie, and my hearing is bad. Or is it your checking to see if I'm paying attention?? The battle at greasy grass or Little Bighorn is MONTANA. 😊
Mountain man
HAHA! It thought I typed it wrong in the narration script and didn't. However, what I recorded was S. Dakota. Maybe need to not drink while narrating...
Hey y'all, love the channel! I'd be interested in some talk on the various prairie belts that were used in the wake of the Little Big Horn battle. Keep up the good work!!
Great suggestion!
I remember hearing that the origin of the phrase 'lock, stock and barrel' came from the US military retrofitting all their older rifles, but I don't remember when this happened or what rifles they were. Does this sound familiar to anyone?
I think it just refers to the parts of those older rifles. In other words "everything"
Have a firing repro and a non firing repro and love em both especially the sights,and how substantial it feels in my hands. Have never fired enuf rounds at one time to have jaming problem that plagued troopers.
Thank You!
fun stuff
There was a "Twilight Zone" episode where a 1950s tank crew went in the battle. They died
So I hear.
The Springfield Trapdoor Rifle was actually used as late as World War 1 in a very limited capacity with the National guard
No doubt!
Glad you mentioned the failings of the copper cartridges.
Also glad to see some clips of Son of the Morning Star. I watched it when it aired. Had to negotiate a later bedtime to do it.
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Wow, Bill and Rex both look like they're good shots after all these years!
Oh yeah!
🤔I think there was a sidearm the Calvary used during the Era of the Trapdoor Springfield. If only I could remember what it was.😉
HAHA! If you only knew!
I heard that Custer had two Gatling guns that day at his disposal, but chose to leave them behind because they were too bulky, heavy, and cumbersome. Not a Sherman tank, but I'm guessing things might have just turned out differently during the battle if Custer hadn't have jilted those two sweet Ladies earlier in the day.
Also, back then the military didn't like repeating lever-action guns for another reason. They taught their soldiers to shoot from the prone position whenever it was necessary to make themselves smaller and thus harder to hit targets. That lever.... just got in the way.
They still wouldn't have helped that much
@@ArizonaGhostriders
Probably not. Would have made for a much bloodier battle though.
The Little Big Horn tank was that a reference to that Twilight Zone episode? Anyway, great episode, love the bit on the conversion. Got me thinking awhile back that the US military had a contest for a new rifle and caliber, but i can't help but think they'll just tool around with it for a decade and stick with the M4 due to production of scale for the guns and ammo. Which brings me to the idea that the US military will probably use the M4 until thry make a laser conversion kit for it.
Kind of a joke thought experiment though.
I never saw the Twilight Zone episode. Thought I had an original gag there. Oh well!
Laser conversion might be cool!
@@ArizonaGhostriders The episode is 'The 7th is made up of Phantoms' if you ever want to track it down.
General Custer with all the single shot trapdoors we're out numbered and outgunned at the battle of the greasy grass. Most of the native Americans had repeaters like the Henry and 1866 Winchester. Those Gatling guns that Custer left behind may have helped a little. Looking forward to the video of the 1873's being fired. Great video Santee thank you for your hard work and time Sir!🤠
You're welcome!
UA-cam UNSUBBED ME FROM YOU!!!! GRRRRRR! The Springfield is my battle rifle of choice in Red Dead Redemption 2. If I need to put fools down in 1-2 shots without using Dead Eye, this rifle right here is my go to.
Always leave it to Dirty Dan to tell us what it REALLY is. 😂😂😂
HA!
I once had a oppertunity to buy a trapdoor gun for 300 € but i didn't have the proper funding & was a bad time.
I still cry.
Awww! There are more out there
I was thinking to myself "Hmmm, Santee should do a video on the 1873 Springfield rifle" Well low and behold... Thanks for the video, enjoyed it.
You're welcome!
I love the trapdoor action. It's impressive that the Italian replicas from Uberti/Pedersoli are proofed (as required by Italian law) to modern smokeless loads of .45-70. I have even heard rumors that the proof test cartridge used by Italian proofing houses is based on what we would call "Marlin loads", or 40,000 CUP pressures (vs 25,000 CUP for "trapdoor" smokeless loads that are closer to BP pressures). Either way, the modern Italian-made replicas are pretty darn durable firearms considering the age of the design. I'd love to own one someday but the cost for the Italian replicas is pretty high, $1,800 to $2,100 depending on model.
Glad they reproduce them.
Great video and history! What about doing a video on the Remington-Keen rifle bolt action with exposed hammer Rifle!?👍🏽😀❤️🇺🇸
We shall see.
The Allin conversion, as well as the Snider conversion (Brits used) and the 'trabetierre'(sp?) of the French, became obsolete by around 1870, when purpose designed breech loaders such as Remington's rolling block, the Comblain, the Peabody as well as the bolt systems of Mauser, Mannilcher, Vetterli and others. As you mentioned, the M1873 was built on all new parts, but still had that obsolete design. Why military brass resisted more modern designs is well documented in numerous other sources, suffice to say the soldier seemed far down on list of concerns.
Although essentially a dead-ended design, compared to the single shot bolt actions that readily morphed into repeaters, the Remington rolling block was likely most best of the bunch. Breech was easily opened, accesseble for simple wiping of fouling, had a larger more robust extractor and with trained soldiers, had a higher rate of fire. In fact, no one outside of US used trap door, but rolling block used by many countries in Latin American, Europe and far East. US Navy supposedly purchased many in lieu of trapdoor, as well a New York National Guard and others. In fact, rolling blocks lasted well into smokeless era with the 1902 Mexican version in 7mm Mauser and 1914 version in 8mm Lebel.
Not knocking the trap door, I like shooting them, but just putting a little trivia and perspective.
Occasionally seen are trap door Springfields with faux flint-lock parts, wood dressed to look like a Kentucky or other odd characteristics, These were likely part of the several thousand sold by movie rental shop around 40 to 50 years ago. While real history provenance uncertain the reel histoy conection s quite interesting.
Nice extra info. Yeah, they altered them a lot in Hollywood.
So it wasn't the Springfield rile that caused bullet jams, it was the copper shell casings that kept jamming, I dont recall hearing that anywhere before. Either or, if it was Gen Terry's decision not to equip solders in 1876 with repeating rifles, then I lay the blame of Custers defeat at Terry's feet.......
Without a doubt repeating rifles has a much better advantage in a battle than single shot rifles, but back in 1800's solders was dime a dozen, weapons was expensive, therefore if Gen Terry saved the government some money, he'd have a better chance of an increased retirement pension, along with others living off or in the government, it's almost the same today, scratch my back and I'll............
The gun is just fine if you use the brass cases. The Bloomfield Gilded Metal was having head separations.
Nice! Can’t wait for the pew pew episode!
Thank You!
Custer's troops would have needed something more like belt-fed M60s and SAWs to have had arms that would made any difference. Certainly repeating Spencers would not have flipped the script - maybe buy them ten or 15 minutes longer to live.
I think a strafing from some A-10's would have worked.
Yes, but the 45-70 was used alongside the Kraig in the Span-Am war by the Buffalo Soldiers and was a hard hitting round.
No argument there. The rate of fire was the issue.
I harvested an elk with my 1873 carbine 45/70, which literally slammed that elk to the ground.
Wow!
Hey Santee, Can you use the Springfield in the fall? Kind Thanks! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
Yes. But they dont work well once they are dropped.
I never understood why not continue with Spencer carbine not to mention the Henry! Keep up amigo has always see ya down the trail
Hi Marco, amigo!!!!
Right on
@ArizonaGhostriders When I mentioned the Spencer and the Henry is in period after the Civil War because there a picture taken in 1880s in New Mexico that is plain visible soldiers of US cavellary with Hotchkiss carbines !
@@AdaM48state I amigo Adam!
If only time travel existed I’d go back and by up as many rifles for $3.40, bring ‘em back to our time and sell them. Cheap to re-enactors of course.
Yes!
Stay cool in all that heat. Next week is going to be tough here, it might hit 90. Before all you in the west start laughing, remember we see -20 at night and days not above zero. If add a swing from a winter low to 90 which is 110 to Tucson's average say 20 + 110 = 130, we are both suffering.😅
Fingers crossed I don't shrivel!
I would love to have one of these rifles but “when” you can find them they’re high dollar!… Dan, I thought it was pretty interesting.. Nut you always crack me up when that is in the video 😂 perhaps because it reminds me of me lol… 😜🇺🇸🍻
Thank You!
Such an iconic rifle. And I own a Krag Carbine rifle. And proud of it. But I'd like to have one of these rifles.
Cool!
Aww Santee, you mention tanks at the Little Bighorn and you didn't show a clip from The 7th is Made Up of Phantoms (Twilight Zone)? Though, to be fair, their tank didn't make it into the fight. A great vid as per usual. I love how you emphasize the economics behind the adoption of the Trapdoor.
Thank You!
What rifle was used in Unforgiven by Morgan Freeman? I was thinking trap door carbine, but then I remembered Eastwood had multiple shots, when he shot that first cowboy.
Spencer
Awesome video! Such a cool rifle and it definitely served its country for a while. And I always did wonder why the military didn’t adopt the Spencer rifles/carbines or the Henry rifles more than the trapdoor rifle. But your video answered that question so thanks! And for the few trapdoors that were used during the Spanish American war. Wonder how the solider who had one felt when he found out he was fighting against fellas with bolt action rifles who could fire off five rounds before having to reload. Bet he was probably not happy lol
Keep up the awesome work!
Thank You!
General Custer is addressing his men at the Little Bighorn. He says "well boys, I've got some good news and some bad news."
"The bad news is that the Lakota are camped right down the hill. Come morning, they're going to overrun us. They'll ride roughshod over our whole company and leave us all dead, then probably mutilate our corpses beyond recognition when they're done."
His lieutenant asks, "What's the good news, General?"
Custer says, "Well, we won't have to ride through Nebraska again."
HA!
4:21 I once saw a Cuban Cartoon movie called Elpido Valdes set during the spainsh american war, There was a scene where a american soldier was showing off his springfield trapdoor to a cuban mambi rebel that was looking at it. The american soldier goes "This is a rifle, ever seen one Bang!, Bang! The mambi noticing that the ameircan is trying to make him looks stupid pulls out a Mauser Model 1893 an says "That not a Fuzil, this is a Fuzil" To the surprise of the American soldier. Ican only just imagne how many times this type of happened in real life.
HA! Maybe that did happen.
I don't think people understand just how bad the US Army was in that period from 1866-1898, especially at the height of the Indian Wars where they had ill trained soldiers who were barely taught how to use their rifles on a good day let alone in the heat of battle.
Moreover, as others have talked about. Among the many reasons the Army didn't adopt repeaters was 1. The semi-valid fear soldiers would empty their ammo way too fast and now they're miles from more ammo 2. Certain kinds of Repeaters were still fragile and if a part breaks and parts are sitting in some warehouse in St. Louis and you're up in Montana, it's a club. 3. The Army and Congress were too cheap for its own good.
You also left out that in testing the Springfield did much better at longer distances than the repeaters did.
Interesting history and progression. That will be cool when you shoot that rifle, I can't wait for that video Cheers my friend.
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I love the modern made sharps, Rollin blocks there making in pistol cartridges, wish they would make a .357 trapdoor . Cheap to shoot and better for my bad shoulders.
Ouch!
Good evening. It's Ted from San Antonio Texas. I have one of those Springfield trapdoor. Definitely a cool gun. Stay safe and cool
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Great episode Santee.
I've been to the Custer Battle Field a few times.
By the way, does the Jam in a donut count as a daily serving of fruit? I'm asking for a friend. 😁
Yes!
I have both the rifle and carbine models of the Trapdoor, but I prefer shooting my Krag. Great video, keep em' coming.
Thank You!
Great video! I knew that a lot of US rifles were captured by the native Americans ,but what I don't know is: how did they keep them supplied with ammunition?
They stole the ammo, too.
I am pretty proficient with firearms. Not a professional by any means. I sure would like to see someone get off 15 accurate shots with a trapdoor. Especially under pressure.
Me too. Remember, testing wasn't (and isn't) done on a battlefield.
Very cool old rifle Santee! Very informative video too!
Thank You!
'"The enemy's Mausers," are why we licensed the tech for the next Springfield Rifle. Nice to see you not perpetuate any of the other Springfield myths, and directly reject the one that the rifle played any role in Custer's defeat. The enemy there had the skill and the numbers.Far better generals than Custer would have failed in the same situation. You do lose a point for failing to include that Custer left Gatling guns at base, to move faster.
Thanks, but I don't actually lose a point for that because it's in my Gatling Gun video (where it belongs).
Appreciate the rest, though.
Was your comment on if a Sherman tank was available based on the Twilight zone episode?
No, I never saw that episode. Thought I had an original idea, there. HA!
If they had a Sherman tank, then Sitting Bull would just have had to sneak to it and hit the little wheel labeled "Ronson" on thr back for it to go up in blazes 🙂
Perhaps! If he spoke enough English.
I literally just bought one yesterday which is funny because it was the 150 anniversary like you said.
Awesome!
I have a trapdoor carbine, original. According to the serial number it was manufactured/issued after little big horn.
Whoah!
Now say the longer version of that rifle's name ten times ... fast. What a mouthful.
I watched another video last night, listing the top five guns used in the Wild West.
The Springfield trap door was one of them. It mentioned that the copper bullet casings could melt thus causing the gun to jam. Some of them, heck you'd of been better off with a sling shot, than all the fiddling one had to do to just to load it. That certainly would of inspired making model improvements and did so.
Interesting and accurate firearm
Hey Santee,
Can you make a video talking about break action rifles in the old west?
No, I don't know how to pronounce my name
HAAH! I'll put it on the list.
I think you might like this there’s a Smithsonian article about an old abandoned mid 1800s mine that was explored by a UA-camr and in it were seven pairs of 1880s jeans 2 of them being made by Levi’s they were in remarkably good condition since they weren’t exposed to the outside elements and they even had old candle wax stains from the candle headlamps that the miners who originally wore the jeans had used to light up the pitch black mine shafts
While completely unrelated to the topic of the video I figured you might be interested in the article as you reenact the old west time period and this could either be an interesting read or help you make a more period correct uniform for a worker who needs rugged pants like jeans or if the character you made for your living history job used jeans
Just google Levi’s jeans found in mine and it should be the article by the Smithsonian that gives some good info but other news outlets covered it I figured the Smithsonian article is a bit better being it’s made by a museum
Thanks for the info. I've never handled an original pair of Levi's...that would be neat.
You're looking more authentic all the time, kudos to your makeup artist 😉
Only when I film at work. Otherwise I don't try to look authentic.
Excellent video Santee. I used to have a Model 1888 with the ramrod bayonet. Sadly, it was stolen. I loved shooting it. I need to get another. Have a great weekend! Cheers!
Thank You!
I have a 1884 trapdoor rifle Shot 20 rounds through it 40 years ago.Maybe I'll shoot it again one day. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Santee for another great video. Even if Dirty Dan said part of it was "stupid". It was still great,
Stay safe out there, and take it easy man.
Thanks, you too!
One of the first times the Trapdoor distinguished itself in an engagement occurred just a couple miles from where I live. A little backstory: In 1866, a woodcutting party from Fort Phil Kearney (established to protect the Bozeman Trail) near present-day Story, Wyoming, was ambushed by a group of warriors who included Red Cloud. All 81 of the men under Captain Fetterman were killed. They were armed with muzzleloaders, and the Lakota and their allies were primarily armed with bows. Fast forward to the next year. A party of 26 soldiers and 6 civilians were cutting wood just a couple miles from where the Fetterman massacre occurred, when they were attacked by several hundred (estimates run to over 1,000) Lakota and affiliated tribes' warriors. The woodcutting detail pulled the boxes off the chassis of their freight wagons to act as barricades, and began returning fire on the braves. This time, however, instead of muzzleloaders, they had the new Trapdoors, and even a couple Yellow Boys. The small force of soldiers and civilians successfully held off the much larger force of attackers for six hours until they were reinforced from the fort. Only three defenders died, while the Indian losses were in the hundreds (according to a surviving Oglala Sioux who was involved). Trapdoors were a genuine game changer for a few years.
Interesting
I just saw a joke on an old reel of Rolland Martin's Laugh In that you should steal fir a bit.
You say " I've got good news and bad news. I dreamt last night that I was naked on stage. That's the good news. The bad news is that I was riding shotgun."
HAHAHA! I should!
Looking forward to seeing you shoot it!
Me too. I love a .45-70
Have a firing repro and a non firing repro and love em both especially the sights,and how substantial it feels in my hands. Have never fired enuf rounds at one time to have jaming problem that plagued troopers.
Thank You!
I'd love to see a four-way contest between the Trapdoor, the 1874 Sharps infantry rifle, the Remington M1867 and the Martini Henry .577/450 one day.
All four military single-shot Big Boys in the ring together 😁
Me to
Interesting
Add the 577 Snyder in there.
@@jackiewindham8199 five for fighting it is!
An iconic firearm for sure...it was on my bucket list to own a replica. Pedersoli makes a real nice replica and as such, the trapdoor is no longer on my list! Only oddity that I notice is the ejector on an original is much stronger than the modern replicas.
Nice
I have an original from the 1880s with the bayonet!
OooO!!
Wish they'd made a modern "boys" version in 45 colt.
Might be cool.
A few months ago I watched ol yeller after years and noticed the kid had what appeared to be a trap door. I wondered if it was one of the early conversions. I assumed but didn't know these were sold surplus like most of the military guns back then
Maybe!
Another fantastic video! Happy birthday to you and Dan. Hope yall had a fantastic day.
Thank You!
I loved this one, brother! But of course you already know that!
yes!
Have a firing repro and a non firing repro and love em both especially the sights,and how substantial it feels in my hands. Have never fired enuf rounds at one time to have jaming problem that plagued troopers.
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Too bad the post war US wasn't in a better situation with Great Britain. The Martini-Henry was far better rifle for a singleshot.
Probably too expensive. Remember, the military here was wiped out financially after the war. It was a suitable solution.
Never knew the origin of the story behind the trap door invention/method. Nice.
Glad you got something out of the video!
Thanks for the video. Great information as always Santee.
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Little Bighorn was like the Civil War for these things, brother against brother, sister against sister.
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Santee, did you get your permission slip signed by Mrs. Santee so you can shoot real guns and not replicas?
Not yet...
There was an episode of The Twilight zone that used the idea of a tank Warren Oates was in it. Check that out.
I heard about it. Tank loses, right?
Very good video santee that was fun
It was good seeing your AI clone getting some air time 😁
@@oregonoutback7779 lol yup
Glad you enjoyed it. I misplaced the battle of LIttle Bighorn in a neighboring state. I looked over my narration and I actually wrote "Montana" but somehow said S. Dakota and never corrected it.
I’ve got a 1865 Springfield 50-70 trapdoor rifle from my great grandfather who found it hidden up in the roof rafters of Fort Lowell in Tucson AZ in the early 1900’s. It was missing the cleaning rod and bayonet so I found originals for it. I will pass it down to my son.
That's amazing. 11BangBang (the guy shooting in blue) has one of those.
Great topic. Great episode. Thanks for sharing this info.
You're welcome
Custer had access to several Gatling Guns but he felt they would be to hard to transport
Right. Mentioned that in the Gatling Gun video.
I have an original 1873, Trapdoor in 45- 70. It still shoots like a charm almost as well as my Remington Rolling Block given the difference between the military and vernier sites. I use a 405gr bullet, lubed with tallow mix 70 grns Bp with a wad of cardboard and a thin grease wad. A wonderful old rifle
Cool
Why the cardboard wad ?
I don't use one in mine.
@@dennis56 well you can use bonded paper, I live in the South and sometimes a box is out long enough to soften. I have had problems in matches in PA, so o
The cardboard allows better compression and absorbs melted lube and protects the powder.
Hey Santee I see you have my friend Garrett roped in on this. You know their channel is doing a history thing soon on (almost) all models of the trapdoor? BTW: Little Big Horn? You mean the Battle of the Greasy Grass -Grey Pilgrim
Yeah, Greasy Grass, Little Bighorn, Custer Fight, Peji Sla Wakapa.
Known to the 7th Cavalry as, "Oh damn, this was a mistake."
@@ArizonaGhostriders I only know a little Dine` Tah. not that northern babble :) Just a dumb bilagaana Hillbilly here :)
Muita história. Muito legal.
Obrigado
Great job ,Santee , I learned a lot , Keep up the good work and stay cool ...
Thanks, will do!
I'm looking forward to that shooting video, santee . Happy International Day of the Cowboy
Thank You!
Another great video. Thank you very much. Have a blessed weekend.
Thank you! You too!
I always enjoy these videos, and I know you put a lot of hard work into them. It’s just too bad Custer’s boys didn’t have Martini-Henry rifles. On second thought, they had Custer, who divided his forces in the face of a numerically superior enemy. He was no Alexander the Great, so…
Martini-Henry rifles wouldn't have saved the day, sadly.
What was the name of that movie that you showed in the the beginning of your video?
It might have been Sargeant Rutledge. I can't remember.
Reach for the Sky, Santee !!! 💥🔫 🤠
Thank You!
I have an 1870 model of trapdoor, the 1868 model and 1870 didn’t use an old barrel but a purpose built barrel, only the 66 had the 58 barrel with the .50 sleeve brazed inside.
I have both models as well and the 1868 models made in 1869 still had the lined barrel the 1868s in 1870 have new barrels my sources are the books by Richard Homsmere and the the springfield trapdoor book 2 by Al Frasca
So many versions...
Very fun rifle, if anyone is interested do some shopping original specimens can be had for less than a repro.
Not this original!
Thank you Santee, fine episode!! Have a great week
Thanks, you too!