LGBTQ issues and Sanatan | J Sai Deepak
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- Опубліковано 12 жов 2023
- J Sai Deepak answers a question on the LGBTQ issues and Sanatan dharma.
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J Sai Deepak, a native of undivided Andhra Pradesh, did his schooling in Hyderabad followed by a degree in Mechanical Engineering from Anna University and finally an LLB from IIT Kharagpur. Starting his career with Saikrishna & Associates, it is indeed heartening to see that he has now become an arguing counsel in the Honorable Supreme Court of India under his own banner. Over these years, he has specialized in matters concerning Civil Commercial litigation, Intellectual Property litigation, Competition Law, Indirect Taxation, Information Technology Law, Consumer Protection laws and Drug Regulatory Laws.
Unique terminology "tritiya prakruthi"❤
Our ancestors respected every ounce in this universe and nature flourished in that period
I am born Gay and Hindu. I have not found a single shloka in the shastras that declares my birth or existence as either sinful or unnatural. I do not believe my orientation is a norm or could be a norm, it is just a natural variety that will remain a minority just like all varieties are and minority variety by itself cannot be a norm. My life is exactly like everyone else, birth-family-education-work-relationship-seva-retirement-death. Just one single thing is different-my relationship will be with a person of the same sex and will come with all the same "kabhi kushi kabhi gham" elements of a heterosexual relationship. Dharma-kama-artha-moksha are the same for me as everyone else. I live in a country that allows me to marry & even have pandits who will perform my wedding, if and when I choose to. I do not need any extra rights or privileges nor my orientation be a subject of public debate nor education to children in school. If the law accords me the same right to life and protection as any other citizen, i shall not want or expect anything more. I agree with JSD on his view and India should accost the subject the way that she seems fit for the time and circumstances and not through western pressure or anything else. My country is the first country in the world to allow gays to marry by a vote-the people went to the polls and decided they want people like me to marry if we so wish and I am very blessed that way. So some Indian LGBT might think I am confortable and safe here hence my opinion but I remind them that i lived and thrived even before the law was passed. But also want to point out that there is now an LGBT/Marxist alliance(mostly TRANS-gender fluid-non binary crazies) which is so virulent that people who voted yes and were kind to LGBT before are turning against us because of the gang! So India should really be careful about this and not blame normal gay people who just want to live in peace within society just like every other person.
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Correct bro. The present Western ideology of LGBTQ is nothing but shit. The mainstream issues are sidelined and it's just encouraging insanity.
Read more. Homosexualilty is sinful.
@@p007t it you who need to read more katoowey
It's god who has made you that way, so why would he be against someone whom he created himself.
Beautifully explained by JSD bhaiyya. Such a blessing to learn from him.
Jai Mata Di 🙏
Har Har Mahadev🙏
Deepal is not anti-LGBT.
He is saying not to make it a norm.
That is not hate. That is common sense.
Yes right.. we have social destruction for this. It affects straight people also. Last few years there population became 50%more and it's not natural.
I'm not anti heterosexual, I just don't want heterosexual couples to be normalised
Exactly
why shouldnt it be normal? what kind of common sense are u talking abt ?
@@darkrai98k69Children don't know how and on what to use genitals, let them grow and find their natural way, a lot of boys sadomise each other out of curiosity even though they turned out be a straight in the future, normalising it would increase number of unnatural gays which is harmful of sustainability of human kind in a long run.
LGBTQ issues vis-a-vis Dharma, beautifully explained by JSD.💝
Jai Hind. When Bharat realizes the value of Sai Deepak and place him in a serious light, most of our problems will be solved. This is a man to be reckoned with!! God bless Sai Deepak.
That laughter from the audience is a huge comment on our society . ..our general standards..
There's hope ..Grateful for that.
We need more people like him. 😊
LGBT is not anti-Hindu. Hinduism says atma is independent of body. Being gay is property of the body, of small number of people. Some people are born different.
Purshartha
1. Arth
2. Kaam
3. Dharm
4. Moksh
That's how you are supposed to live your life.
Correct, most Hindus don't understand this. Dharma, Artha, Kama, Moksha sequence is for avatars. For Common hindu, that's not the sequence. When arjun was asked which is the best purushartha, he said Artha. When bhima was asked he said it is kama,
This man is so clear on his position 🤧so careful on his stand. He is a gem
I accept all his points.
As a gay person, I do not disagree with anything said by this wise man. Moreover, i feel deeply saddened when i witness young homosexuals in this country who fall in the clutches of the woke agenda.
Same Here...
This woke ism is actually making it hard for conservative gays like us...
Can anyone explain this woke thing.. I'm tired of seeing the term everywhere in the LGBT videoes😑
@@santhulan a decade ago Woke term was supposed to bring marginalised people like Black People, LGBT People, Feminism etc to the front...
As time grew the concept just got out of hand and these so called woke people made it more complicated so that it just began to be an irritating thing
Like in LGBT you may have Heard guys saying I Identify as a women, I Identify as something something or vice versa
Overtly sexual Drag Shows and pride parades in front of kids which is worse by the way
And the Pronoun Think - He, She, They, Them
Everything was normal and ok
Now it's just gender, Pronouns, Identifying as
Feminists literally arguing on everything despite each and everything built and maintained around them is by Men
Vegan Culture is also in this category now
It's just that this woke thing made sense when they fought for basic rights a decade Ago and it's horrible now
This is not only irritating to straight guys but also to Conservative gays like me who just want everything back to normal and private
7:28 ....he nailed it right here
Exactly, He made the perfect point in just 1 minute and explained the problem of making norms related to this issue 🙌🏻💯
I know "where love ends and obligation begins"...🙏
Excellent points!
Excellent j sai sir
I am trans but i support LGBTQ causes and proud hindu
Striling hain ki pulling kis tarike se aapko sambodhit kiya jaye.
Aap iska uttar dijiye mujhe samajh aajayega aapka iq.
You are a shame for Hindus
bhai ne khatam kar diya ...DAMN
Jai SRI RAM!
Brilliant
One f the best JSD clips I have seen in 3 years of following him
Wow 👏🏼
Forget religion for a moment.....One simple question... if love is love, why don't you drink from the commode.
9:27 I'm vegetarian and I agree with Sir,
Stop cruelty on the animals 🙏♥️
In pre invasion era there is no ban for lgbt.It was after turkic rule and british rule The british made laws to ban lgbt and after independence the same laws continued unfortunately.
State should be completely disassociated with religion, according to his view but shiv puran says, every man has some aura of feminism mind you EVERY MAN, which we call his SHAKTI and vice versa (that feminism element might be different for different people some have high some have low) and that's where ARDHANARESHAWAR concept was emerged out, it's not western concept.
Love is a large
The .modern usage has narrowed it FCdown
Lgtv love menas sexsual satisfaction।
4:40 ❤❤❤❤
😂👍🏻
Aspirational ideal se hum kitna hi deviate kar sakte hain. Ideal should be clear-cut!
Lgbtiq is innate - it's not acquired - pride March is not glorification - it's just a fight for right and acceptance, why it's a problem if we try to glorify it. It's not a infectious disease - we need to make it norm for well being of lgbt community so that they are not discriminated, judged or harassed.
Moreover, I personally don't need hindu religion. I don't care about it's principals /values. I just want to be happy without hurting
others.
Making item number songs with very sensual lyrics and choreography or Having straight characters in almost all of Indian fiction is apparently not glorification of straight sexuality or solidifying it as a norm but a Gay/trans/bi person just existing with the same human rights as anyone is suddenly "GLORIFICATION OF LGBTQ"
LQBTQ ISSUES ARE NOT WOKEISM. LGBTQ COMUNITY IS NOT WOKE. IF WE DO NOT GIVE THE COMMUNITY A VOICE, WOKE WILL ANNEX IT111 THEN GOODBYE DHARMA
Dude he literally said we need to give them a voice.
He does not answer a simple question- is LGBTQ a sin or not?
Aiyooo..... Hey Sai, I am yr huge Fan, but don't support yr position regarding Pashubali. U just stated that u support "Pashubali" can u please explain the reason?
Pashubali is part of rituals in many regional and tribal communities. Dont just think Hinduism/Sanatan dharma as you concieve from Instagram. Here in Nepal, it is mandatory for each community shakti mandir to sacrifice a male buffalo or black goat, on the ocassion of Mahaashtami and Mahanavami. Even Ashvamedha yajna is a ritual mentioned in Rig Veda. So Pashubali is a part of Hinduism as well.
@@foxbat4596 Just b'coz it is written somewhere & being practiced by someone does not make it a sacred.
Since this is not just a matter of discrimination of particular race, it involves killing of an atman which itself is a sin, I want to know the logic (religious as well as scientific) behind it.
I know, if Sai is saying this there is defenetely something what I am missing.
And don't express yr troll mentality everywhere, Asking question is essence of Sanatan. So just chill.
@@CovidPositive It is not just "somewhere", its actually written in Samhita of RigVeda, which can be considered as the foundation of Hinduism before upanisadhs and purans arrived. And, many tribals or Janajati, who partially practice Hinduism and majorly remained unique to their way of spiritual practice, they still practice this. For example(I am from Nepal), here we practice Dusshera as Dashain(दशै). And particularly on the occasion of Asthamitithi or Kaalratri and Navami, Kalika temples around Nepal, each and every temples, there is Pashubali. Even communist regime couldn't stop this, though they have narrated Pashubali as superstitions. Nobody listens to them except few of their Karyakartas and Pro-West Medias who constantly make noise regarding this issue. FYI, most of the large media houses in Nepal are under the control of Open Society Foundation(yes same ngo founded by George Soros).
@@CovidPositive just one observation: atman can’t be killed - it is Nitya and lasts forever (dvaita/vishishta dvaita) or till it merges into paramatma (advaita - part of the Real One). So soul doesn’t die in our Dharma. You can talk about cruelty to the body of the animal
Raitas shouldnt speak
Great speaker
that is my stand as well..i don't condemn it, but i also don't condone it, i don't want to be related to or affected by it in any way, so i have a problem when you start taking out parades on the street or whatever...it may be natural, but its not normal
Sanatan dharma is not the only essence of this nation. Many Hi ndus oppose this philosophy
Its not a philosophy its natural sexuality
♾️% Right only Selfish people talk/scream : RIGHTS , MY RIGHTS..
But what about your/our Duty!?
Why we should see a vision as agenda??
I think these kind of visions should be collective..
We should not label it as western.. Eastern etc
I never seen LGBTQ in my Village. I asked my grandfather about LGBTQ he strongly condemned that. He face reaction like "asa kon ho skta hai jise same gender se pyar ho"
As a gay person i used to think the same way. However, my perception changed when i travelled to my village with grindr and blued in my phone (both of them are gay dating apps, generally used for hookups and one night stands). There were minimum gay 20 people around me within the 1 kilometre radius . The problem is homosexuals in this country are great at hiding their sexuality. They pretend to be straight and a lot of them especially in the rural landscape end up marrying straight women ruining the girl’s life.
The planet is bigger than your Village.
One who is asking question is she about to cry.........
I believe i bali but on what context ??? Does in kaliyug it is possible to find real bramhin.
So what was his point exactly? He kept moving in circle only...
यही की यह एक यौन विकृती है।
Wrong interpretation of feeling this is not normal healthy situation which can be idealistic for society or else future generation will be runined।
@@neilbajwa8689 aur, जो करना है आपने घर मे करे सड़क पर लाना मतलब ideology बनान।
और यह है एक यौन विकृत condition किसी को नहीं मानना ना माने ना सुधार ना ना सुधरे लेकिन open glorification की यह एक idealistic नॉर्मल healthy condition है ऐसा नहीं चलेगा।
आपने घर मे कुछ भी करे वन सम, टू सम, थ्री सम।
लेकिन प्राची ना करे जैसे कोई ideology की तरह।
वर्ना फ्यूचर generation मे आपने feelings को लेकर misinterpret करेंगे, उनके अंदर conflict पैदा करेगा।
जैसे अमेरिका मे यह double जम्प लेकर 7;6% abadi पर आ गए यह unusal जम्प है कोई नॉर्मल नहीं।
Gen z generation के 50% youth bacche lgtv से आपने आपको present करते है।
यह बिल्कुल एक pandora box की तरह है
For once, I disagree with JSD. I expected a more rational and logical answer from him. All he said was a more polished version of homophobia.
Just to make myself clear, I do agree there is a strong agenda to push LGBTQ+ as a norm from the west. But I fail to understand what is the problem in making it a norm. Is the standard of my religion Hindhuism so low, that it won't let me treat two people who have a different sexual orientation to mine, as two human beings?
There are various references of gender fluidity in our ancient books. Will it be said now that that is all wrong? Lord Ayyappa whose case JSD talks about all the time, is the son of Vishnu (Hari) and Shiva (Hara), and hence the name Hari-Hara Putra. There are several other examples that show how diverse amd inclusive Hindhuism is with genders.
People don't wake up one fine day and change their gender or sexual orientation, neither is it a mental disorder. They are just born different, you or me may not like them, and the thought of it may sound disgusting, but just them live their life in their own terms. As long as they don't try to shove those ideas down our throats, its not a problem at all.
He did say dignity, respect and treatment as 100% yes. Where are you bring religion as high or low here, are we comparing with each other?
@@neilbajwa8689 What is the difference?
@@neilbajwa8689 I totally agree with your comment. You have got me wrong here. I am not of the opinion that Hindhu Marriage should try to include LGBTQ+. The only point I am trying to make is that we Hindhus were progressive since the beginning of time. We shouldn't be alienating people just because they are different to us, that's what other non-progressive relgions do. If the Govt decides to create a new law of civil partnership, that should be supported.
@@neilbajwa8689 Agreed. But that "societal norm" is part of the problem. That's where we should welcome changes if it doesn't violate anyone else's life and rights.
Shall I take that Hindus are the only ones living in this country? Coz you see I am a sanatani sikh my father is a sikh and mother is a Hindu and they don’t have any problem with lgbtq community of India. We are nothing but supportive but what about the biggest minority of India ? The Muslims ? According to their religion it’s a sin! There are about 50 Muslim countries in the world and ain’t no gay, lesbians and transgender allowed there. India is still a developing nation but what about the developed countries why have they not been able to convince the 50 Muslim nations to accept lgbtq rights? And let’s say hypothetically if tomorrow Supreme Court allows the wedding and all, are you really that naive to think that there aren’t gonna be riots by the peaceful community in this country? Are lgbtq activists on India ready to take responsibility of the murders of innocent civilians? As long as there ain’t uniform civil code in India a lot of things can’t be implemented and it’s a fact.
For this particular comment at 9:22 (ua-cam.com/video/odMc2iEN8Mg/v-deo.html)
While I agree with most of Sai's views, I wish someone had the guts to challenge him on his "cow sacrifice" comment, which is really disgusting. I respect him a lot but this changed my views. I would have taken him to task if I was in the audience - no one is right all the time and this was pure ignorance or evil without giving a justification (which WILL not exist).
Please, let's stop blind beliefs in every single thing that has happened in the past and hence MUST be true today. Sometimes we need to reform our thoughts and traditions too.
i am fan of sai deepak but against him being against lgbt
he is not against LGBT!
I want to know about what sai thinks about abortion
Divorce too....if marriage is a divine institution then why divorce is legal
I am gay and proud Hindu... pls Deepak don't be AntiLGBT
We are against the intent of the whole LGBTQ community not against you individually. And no Hindu will harm you.
@@crikitikot i know no Hindu will harm me.... even RSS support us... and even i hate the western concept of LGBTQ.... but we gotta need rights like marriage... cause it use happen innour societies:/
It is not natural
@@aniruddhbahuguna5462 oh really 🤡🤡🤡
@@dev_peace_soul
Ya
Please listen to Sadguru ( talks at Christ college Bangalore) which is like landmark judgement. He has guven a lerfect soluruon.
I accept lgbtq as much human as me. But dont romanticize sexual abnormality.
Why
@@himanshukhattar8693 because on a social level, such couple are incapable of parenting a good generation.
I cnat understand 90% of what he spoke
What can I do for u if u alone r unable to understand?
What about the sanathana darma of Vishnu or Balaji in tirupathi having two wives, Sridevi and boodevi...? Balaji is paraded with two wives all across tirupathi and many temples in India and South India. So are these temples are teaching Polyamory in the name of Sanathana Darma..?
You are not mature enough.
@@bestvideos35 I am mature enough to understand polyamarous relationships, gender and sexuality. But I'm not yet mature enough to understand religious/societal hypocrisy and stigmatisation.
@@kavinanil7406 sridevi boodevi are not wives dumbo. They are shakti form they represent power. We were explained earth and it's natural diversity are feminine nature avatars are masculine nature. 🤦♂️🤦♂️God is beyond human material things
@@kavinanil7406 define God and sanatana dharma please can u?
@@JUSTFORFUN-cd5dd you define it. The santhais put everything in everything in this box. I don't know what it means. The reference to sanathana exists only in an extinct language of Sanskrit, that too, only is some annexures and annotations, they don't even have actual texts. God is a fictional superhuman parental figure created by self aware human societies to answer every phenomenon or seek protection and safety in this lonely cosmos, because there were no thoughts of rationale or reasoning or scientific temper was ever encouraged.
Hahaha.. its just an opinion of him. Totally disagree. Its about equality. What west has to do with it? India took laws from west (Britain). What are doing for it? Why he is talking like hindu gaurdian😂
West ke universities hi hai jo ish soch ko puri dunia bech rahe।
Wohi to hai jo shadow control kar rahe।
Aab samne pratksh yon bikrti ko bas maan lo normal hai ase kahe kar bech rahe।
Dev, Adi , Kinner , Yaksha so Kinner o ko dev tulya manna jata tha
Clearly he has limited his growth. Creation is a constant process. Para Shakti didn't create the universe she is creating.. It's a continuous process so don't restrict your thoughts with rigid ideas and notions
The point he made about pashu bali is technically flawed. Pashu is defined in the Upanishads not as a creature, but as a set of traits. Hence, pashu bali is about sacrificing those traits, not bludgeoning an innocent being.
@@neilbajwa8689 This is how Hinduism is going to die. People just make up shit and say it comes from the scripture and nobody will ask to see this supposed scripture and even when they do provide it, they will lie about what it means because nobody knows Sanskrit.
@@neilbajwa8689 Clearly you haven't read the Upanishads.
Its your interpretation but not final word thereis literally method of how to perform such ceremony read about ashvamedh yagya in which white horse is sacrificed performed by Shree ram
@@uday8008 Upanishads define yagya as the means to see one's soul and God, with inner rituals. Hence, yagya is not a bunch of external rituals, and certainly not about the murder of a harmless being.
@@prashantp495 Man i am. Sure you think all our ramayan and other itihasa are just stories so there is no point talking to you Vedas are start and it clearly mentions about Ashwa medh yagya about giving bali of whote horse with single stroke u should respect all the rituals u may be vegetarian or vaishnav even ram ji followed it
I stand with womens rights and childrens rights
that was a flawed question answered well.
Chickens for kfc😂😂😂😂
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He's hilarious and self-righteous..! No amount of that however will change the divine will to bring about the kind of social order / integration and awakening of the human consciousness that is already underway. Marriage is for all and can be decided by those whose lives are involved... not by others. The governments across of the globe are and will continue to agree.. as is the divine plan, not mine and certainly not yours.
Gud bro..
You understood nothing. Lol
We Sikhs and hindus have no problem but what about the biggest minority of India ? The Muslims ? Is there any Muslim country where gay/lesbian/transgender are allowed?? Do you even know what they do to lgbtq people ? India is still a third world country but has the developed countries in the world been able to convince the 50 Muslims countries to accept lgbtq right? What if Supreme Court allows the wedding and all do you think there ain’t gonna be riots in the country by the peaceful community? And if they happen and people like us get killed who are nothing but supportive of lgbtq, are the lgbtq people of India going to take full accountability of our murders? ?
then explain it to him@@maitreyeesingh5187
Prophet? Is that you??
There are more than enought Indians both domestically and in the diaspora to keep us alive for all eternity. Yo cannot assign members of the LGBTQ community to the gas chanbers with a whole lot of intelectual clap trap, Mr Deepaqk
Lgbtq issue is not some sloppy standard..It's a respected third gender..Here the speaker is looking very naive
LGBTQ is anti human civilization. Your are a clown here not speaker
Third gender? 😂 can u elobarate nature of third gender I know about nature of men and women
Beta School college mein padhaai kar lete Na To Aaj is tarike ki bevkufi ki baten nahin karte
@@optionwala23 beta if you studied real studies on how civilization are build instead woke left LGBTQ propaganda studies that would have been better son.
The definition of Third gender according to lgbtq community is very different. Few days back SC gave rights to biological third gender who we call kinnars but LGBTQ never celebrated it. So stop acting naive.
Great African leader sai dipak
African?
As in Gondwana?
Your racist joke is as boring and expired as your age "uncle"
😂 great British leader Sai dipak
Indian you say not african
Aaaj ki saba...🙏🙏 🤣😂
Another wasted andbhakt
8:42 absolutely true. That is their first line of rebuttal. By that logic, if a person is murdered we cannot speak about it because we have not experienced murder 😂