I felt terrible that they asked him who he thought killed his dad. The kid just lost his dad ,his mother I'm sure has told Tracy did it. What do you expect the kid to say
His son breaking down in tears and it tore me up inside. He is so young yet you can see hes trying desperately to keep it together. He seems mature beyond his years. I hope he gets all the love, support, and therapy he needs. Smh.
My dad is one of the janitorial supply witnesses. We had this episode recorded on VHS, but who knows what happened to that. Glad to finally see this episode available, after searching on and off for years!
watching this whole episode I didn't know what to believe until they showed the janitorial supply witnesses. After that, plus the evidence that they found muriatic acid in her home, I believed she did it. The ex wife had every reason to lie to make her look guilty. A janitorial supply company had no reason not to tell the truth
@@carlweiskott7623she got visibly nervous when they asked her if she rented a UHaul, she wasn’t expecting the detectives to figure it out till one of the neighbors pointed it out ….the detectives found the wheel print from where David body got left …. There is just too much evidence
@@carlweiskott7623There were too many "coincidences" before it even reached to that part that pointed to her guilt.I As soon as the police informed her of his death and she said "How did you identify the body?", it was clear as day she did it. Also: • the gun David kept in the safe at the house is suspiciously missing • the mattress on the bed he slept on was surprisingly brand new • the chords for the electric blanket he was wrapped up and burnt in was at the house laying on the floor • the cleaning items discounted with the card were all found at the house
Tracey is the world’s unluckiest person to just happen to ask a janitorial supply store how to remove blood stains a day after her husband stopped answering phone. THEN to have a woman of similar build park same vehicles as Tracey’s at a store she goes into to buy the same exact chemicals the supply store told Tracey she would need AND happens to use Tracey’s rewards card. Then all those supplies just happen to be at Tracey’s house!! Holy sh…where’s the Tylenol?
@@dianehardison2133 Napolean once said "never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake". The defense lawyer is embarrassing himself; his client is a liar. I am half-way through the video now and know (without knowing) how it will end.
The fact that she tried to blame the ex wife is beyond evil. She already took that kid's father, and then she tried to take his mom from his as well. Wow.
Tracy had motive, and reason. Not only that but she has no alibi. I agree that this woman was indeed evil. The hair in the surveillance video is consistent with Tracy and not the ex wife. The ex wife had short hair.
@@InspektoraDeFrutas better "turn 2 jesus", he's healing blind and deaf ppl because if the discount card is the only thing you "registered" in your brain... it means that you need him asap
@REPENTandTURN2Jesus they found all the cleaning supplies the woman bought with her discount card in Tracey's house. Plus, the son saw the gun in the house safe. Said his dad showed it to him. Why would he lie? She killed that man with his own gun, then disposed of it.
She only cried when she was talking about how difficult it was when she was arrested, that the monitor gave her bruises. When she was talking about David, it sounded like she hated him.
Amazing that she still said she didn't do it. The truck tyre marks, the reward card, the muriatic acid, the store assistants x 2 whom she spoke to .. Heavens give me strength!
She thought she was smart by erasing any evidence in the house, but uses a card to buy cleaning supplies to save few cents😀 I think she was so used to use that card that she completely forgot.
The fact that she really thought people would not believe it was her on the video in the store USING HER DISCOUNT CARD. Once I saw the card was used, I had no doubt she did it.
I know the defense attorneys job is to cast doubt on this client but to insinuate his 1st wife killed him is absolutely pathetic! Shame on him and shame on her for not owing what she did.
His narrative could have worked if not for the video footage of the woman in the store who used Tracy’s discount card. That woman looks nothing like the 1st wife AT ALL.
@@Userhdhd-t5l Nah, the constitution guarantees that everyone is owed a proficient defense, regardless of their perceived guilt and that guarantee is on place for a reason.
Those witnesses about cleaning products sealed her fate. They had nothing to gain and the coincidence of that same lady appearing on camera buying the same cleaning product is way too coincidental. She's guilty
The Forensic Files version shows the evidence is much clearer. 1. She rented and used the Penske truck to purchase the cleaning stuff. 2. She brought her black dog to the store (captured by the camera's footage) 3. She used her discount card 4. The Penske truck wheel print was in the location where they found David's body 5. There were 2 lexus cars parked in the same parking lot, one white color (David's car) & the other one black color (Tracey's car) and also the Penske's Truck was there. All this evidence helped the jury to decide less than 4hrs that Tracy Frame was guilty.
Not only that she claimed the lady in the video didn't look like her at all.. Yet we can all see a very strong rresemblance... So why couldn't she muster it up and say the truth which would have been, "It sure is an oddity... But I swear that is not me" oh she didn't want to go there..
I'm impressed how she got all those vehicles to that parking lot on her own. And how she lured david somewhere to shoot him where blood or bullets could never be found.
The use of her discount card to purchase muriatic acid by a woman who looks very much like her while a Penske truck she rented is in the Tom Thumb parking lot seals her fate.
I was supporting Tracy's innocence until I heard about the muriatic acid. The body shape is easily camouflaged with clothing. I'm sure her besotted swain helped.
@@irenemax3574 Same! I thought there was a chance she didn't do it...but the acid is what did it for me too. Especially since they found it in the house.
A person just needs your phone number to use a discount card at any of the grocery stores here. Honestly the person in the video didn't look like her. But when I heard the muratic acid, my doubt was gone
@@water.77 Not for any of us to say. No one is perfect. Despite his misgivings elsewhere, he clearly cared for and loved his son. Nicholas was my same age in 2007, my dad ain’t perfect either but I’m grateful to have had him. I hope wherever he is now he is doing well and cherishes his memories.
His poor son...he's the one that has lost the most, and it's just heartbreaking. You can see the deep pain in his sweet little face. How could someone be that cold, to take another person's life over something as petty as anger?! It's disgusting.
I dunno… she seems like a narcissist. If you’ve been around a lot of narcissists, you can really past their bs lies by their reactions. Her closing her eyes after her lies is pretty strong as far as body language. Not that that is always correct. But she makes it obvious. Lie detector tests are unreliable anyway but I don’t think she would pass one. If she does, it’s bc she believes her own lies.
The lie detector is pseudoscience. The guy who invented it literally said it was equivalent to a Ouija Board. There's a reason the results are not permissible in court as evidence. It's more used to gauge a person's demeanor and willingness. More of a psychological game by the cops.
Am I the only one that notices she has not once showed emotion when she was talking about her husband but started to cry when he brought up her getting arrested like what???
How wise for his son Nicholas to say, “You can’t understand that kind of person”. So much respect to Donna for carrying this tragedy with strength and grace, and being both a great Dad and Mom to Nicholas! 🙏🏼 The jury clearly understood that the circumstantial evidence was waaaay beyond a REASONABLE DOUBT. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I really didn't think there was any evidence . I think she probably did it if I was on jury there no way I can say there enough evidence to convict her
I didn't see her that way at all; some things I can't quite put my finger on which really bothered me most about her the most, but through the entire video, she seemed petty, jealous, and almost smug to me an unpleasant combination at best or am I the only one?
I was just gonna ask how she was able to film this episode and wasn’t in jail yet lol. I’m glad you said she went to trial because I was worried. (Haven’t finished the episode yet)
As someone who spent several years tangled up with a psychopath....I tell you the last words spoken by his SON ARE OF PROFOUND INSIGHT....."YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND A PERSON LIKE THAT ".....(I paid hard for those lessons...). Life is a journey....
It's because they are lacking a humanity chip in their brain. Even the Bible warns of such people. They are called in the bible 'reprobate' and/or 'of a depraved mind'. In other words, they are devoid of the spark of divinity, bereft of any truth. We call them psychopaths.
Rozumiem cię w stu procentach bracie... Ja tez sowicie zapłaciłem taką lekcję czy po prostu... wiedzę... Niestety niektóre 'rany' dlugo się goją czy nawet pozostawiają na zawsze i z czasem trzeba sie nauczyć z nimi żyć...
@@godzilla928 następnym razem wpisz swoją odpowiedź w Google Tranlate i skopiuj i wklej do komentarza, abyśmy nie musieli tak ciężko pracować, aby przeczytać ?
Somebody needs to tell the old dude that people don't dislike people because they are "good looking" They disliked her because they knew what kind of evil she is. That poor child crying for his daddy breaks my heart.
you have to remember it's TX. There is a pettiness there where people do hate on others who are more successful, attractive, intelligent, etc. Not sure what drives that jealousy, but it's very prevalent there.
you are right...my brothers always thought "I was jealous of them because they are better looking than me..I set them straight. I was never jealous of that like who cares?.." people don't hate or dislike people just because of their looks for sure...
That poor boy, he loved his dad and his dad was so good to his boy! And seeing him cry and missing his dad and not understanding why? , prayers for this poor baby
Look at the purse. It looks like the same size and the square of it. Plus they need to look at her shoes in that store where she is walking out. What about the hat too. Does she own a hat like that 🤔 I thought the dentist was gay oh wow I still do 😄
She lied about being an accountant and a CPA, when she didn’t even graduate from college. She was a bookkeeper! If she lied about that, she will lie about anything. She is a liar. And she did get something, she got his house!
I am curious why 48 left out the part where Tracy was captured by CCTV cameras with her big black dog switching cars in the parking lot. I am sure she also said it wasn’t her with her black dog, like it wasn’t her with her discount card.
So the cleaners told her very specifically what it would take to clean up a crime scene, naming very unusual chemicals, and the very next day a "mystery woman" is at the store buying those exact chemicals, and using Tracy's store card...and we're supposed to believe that wasn't her?
And she says, "It doesn't even look like me." What a lie. There is very many strong resemblance.. She couldn't even muster up that truth. She is guilty for sure.. Lots more points to her guilt.
I have muriatic acid in my garage, don’t have a pool either. It’s hardly some kind of mystery compound that’s unheard of. I mean, they sell it on grocery store shelves.
Her nonverbal cues are wild. Watch her sequences again when she is questioned. Every time she lies to a question or in statement she literally closes her eyes for 1 seconds and holds them closed. At some points even nodding or shaking her head opposite to her answer subconsciously assuring herself and even telling on herself at times!!! It’s wild!!!
Its hard to fool children because they're looking when adults are not... they're very observing and perceptive. People keep discounting their wisdom because of their innocence.
Very well said 🗣️👏🏾🎯. My mother always said children are sponges 🧽 and when you think they’re not looking and listening they are. You can recall a day and time and incident and ask them what happened and they would run the whole scenario down to you. Geniuses!
Could probably have kids of his own by now , too , and I hope his life is as good as it can possibly be even though he doesn't have his father there with him
As a father of an 18 year old son that im about to watch graduate from highschool and seeing this has me bawling for this youn man grieving for his father!!!
@@ktcooki276 Oh, my…. So this wasn’t recent coverage, to say the least. Nonetheless, I hope like is treating Nicholas kindly. He’s had enough to deal with for one lifetime. ❤️
I watched her answer his questions “did you shoot him?” “Did you wrap him in the blanket?” Do you know who did?” I noticed for every no answer she closed her eyes. I think that was her tell.
Why do people say this? This is normal behavior for sociopaths, borderline personality disorder, narcissistic people, demonically possessed people, and why do you people keep assuming that everyone thinks like you?! Come on!!!
I am impressed by his kind , genuine, down to earth son! He speaks highly intelligent and is wise way beyond his years! He will excel in anything he chooses and will make an excellent father and family man one day. I pray God blesses him with a beautiful family of his own and all the success in life that he well deserves! 🙏Such a fine young man. He has had great morals & values instilled in him. I'm proud FOR his mother. What an amazing boy he is already at such a young age at that! It's a shame this ol world hardened him at such a young vulnerable age. May God bless him in all his endeavors in life and fulfill everything he will ever want or need.❤❤❤
The boy cried so much. He really loved his dad. It just goes to show you that even if the killer killed out of anger and revenge, it leaves an impact on the people who loved the guy. The family said, you took the rest of his life away from him and you took him away from us. She felt for herself though when the rest of her life was taken away from her in the form of life imprisonment.
Honestly that does look like her in the store surveillance video. She dropped off his car - she drove the rental truck & left it…… Her mistake was using her discount card! She thinks her looks can fool anybody, looks fade honey but the truth is the truth!!! Narcissism at its finest!!!! #justicefordavid
She and the boyfriend dentist did it which is why he is very supportive of her till the end. She alone couldn’t have done all that because David is 240 lbs at 5’10”. She hates her husband with disdain. There was no emotion but negativity when she talks about him. The dentist boyfriend also speaks poorly of David. Also, David told his ex wife that whatever happens to him, it’s Tracy Frame.
I honestly don't think the dentist had anything to do with this, I think sadly he is blinded by love and hopefully with her being gone, his eyes will open to the facts and he can also move on in his life.
NARCISSISTS cry because they feel VICTIMIZED or wrongly accused...they may even cry when something happens that AFFECTS their sense of SUPERIORITY and SELF-IMPORTANCE.
The only person I feel for in this whole situation is the kid. All of these adults should have made better decisions in life. This poor boy is going to hurt for the rest of his life because someone selfishly took away his Daddy. May God help this poor Boy and keep him safe.
David seemed like he was typical DFW pseudo wealthy trash. But he didn't deserve to be killed. He was a good father and it's obvious that his son will be hurt forever by this senseless tragedy. Tracy is just as trashy I know that sort all too well.
@@24get24give At home -you must have heard it once at least -father says “if you don't abide by “my” rules, you should go”, do you think he was a good father; if he were he would have looked for a good mother and wife, not just a pretty woman!!!who would ruins both lives; his and his son’s.
As a Texan who doesn't live too far from Grapevine David was living on the edge! Married men wanting to be Playboys can be a dangerous combination. RIP David BTW, The store cameras has Tracy driving off in David's Lexus leaving the moving truck in the parking lot.
I grew up on lake grapevine. First at the twin coves marina, then at the north shore yacht club. Greatest childhood ever!! Big thanks to my parents for just a great life filled with love and fun.
NARCISSISTS cry because they feel VICTIMIZED or wrongly accused...they may even cry when something happens that AFFECTS their sense of SUPERIORITY and SELF-IMPORTANCE.
Even the way she slipped in that domestic violence insinuation...saying 'not on a regular basis ' to the question did he ever put his hands on you. Very narcissistic. Making herself look and sound nobel and easygoing, whilst still insinuating he had put hands on her.
This woman has a tell. When she lies she shuts her eyes for longer than a blink. You can see it at every point where she would have lied. It's consistent and involuntary. She is right where she belongs. Using the discount card was absolutely reflexive. I bet it keeps her up at night wondering how she could have been that stupid.
@@digby_dooright Nope. The hips are far too large and wide to be Tracy. I would be insulted if I were Tracy. Can't be the fat ex wife in the store though either.
@@martyg2333 she also could've been slightly heavier back then. I think the interview was about 3 years later.. Or, she could've had on extra clothing to appear heavier.
Yes, her eyes tell everything! Then the discount card.... Then the woman's body on the tape, moving precisely like her, then she only could cry when she was in jail.
She’s so detached until she’s been caught and sentenced. That’s the very first sign of emotion. Because she was caught and is in prison. Not because her husband died, not because ‘someone’ murdered him, not because her stepson has lost his dad. Pretty clear who is guilty.
Yeah I’m not seeing this personally, when did she really even throw him under the bus when she easily could have? When asked if he was physically abusive she actually played it down saying shoving each other isn’t really being battered (which I agree with if they both were doing it to each other). Personally the original wife comes off as way more likely to actually do this seeing as David just happened to conveniently have a premonition that she killed him yet he only told her and no one else? Before that moment there was nothing about them keeping in touch regularly or anything that would suggest that he would confide in her and just like the defense says she would stand to benefit a lot more with him alive. The video stuff is their only kind of good evidence but still no one can say it was 100% her I’m assuming they talked to that cashier and employees there and obviously no one placed here there so that’s why that’s still speculation at all, is it crazy to suggest that it wouldn’t be hard to get ahold of her discount card if for example someone was trying to frame her? Probably not
The littlest things is what made me know she did it. Not a tear The ankle monitor gave her bruises The reward card being used The most ignorant part of this whole ordeal is that dweeb of a fiancé of hers that’s so desperate he’s fallen for a woman who wouldn’t look at him twice and he’s so desperate he doesn’t even care that he has a woman he thinks is gorgeous even if she’s in prison. Legs that wouldn’t quit… he sounds so trashy and desperate.
Ofc no tears, being with David destroyed her life and they were already separated as they had issues. What do you want, to pretend that she cares more than she did about a man she didn't have much left in common with? If you want acting watch a movie
You got it. The rest “of my life”. She’s thinking about all the parties, boats, bikinis, jewelry and suitors she’s missing out on. How dare they lock me up. 😮
Reason she talk to detectives without lawyer so she doesn’t look as if she has anything to hide and thought she can handle detectives question s Over confident Guilt never leaves u - always get caught
@@hasukeas5749 anyone speaking Ng to cops is not smart. And yes, many have gotten Away with it, by Not talking to cops, without a lawyer. There's several cases that haven't been solved, with obvious suspects. Innocent people go to jail/prison everyday because they spoke to Cops, because they had nothing to hide. But cops aren't intelligent, and all it takes is one to get tunnel vision. "You said it was 12 o'clock that you went to the bank, but it was 12:16! You're a liar and guilty!". They will "Use your Words against you".
Using the store discount card to save 19¢ is, in my opinion, absolutely hilarious and the most damning evidence that the person in the video is her, and therefore she killed him.
That and the fact that the body type was practically identical and the fact that two witnesses at the janitorial company said she was desperate to remove blood stains and then the "mystery" woman bought the very product they recommended to Tracy. What a coincidence..... not.
I love how un-smug, assured, and hopeless Tracy looked at the very end when asked about the appeal. David's first wife and son truly loved him I believe. Good job DA and jury!!! They got this one right.
Note: If a loved one tells you " If I am killed, please look at XYZ" without them attempting to stay as far as possible away from that person....... please slap some sense into them. How are you giving me a warning about your life that you are clearly ignoring? Prayers to the victim's family. Violence is never ok.
@thecatatemyhomework I don't care whether she is lying or not... it's obviously too late for him anyways. My comment was for anyone "alive" who may be experiencing what I mentioned. Neither one of us knows her truths or her lies.
Coming from someone who told my Mom, "If I go missing, blame _ _ _ _ _," I guess I just wasn't that scared. You're right, though, and I did try to leave. All told, we love our kids more than we disliked each other. (All is well now, thank heavens!)💜
@hollybeth1279 I'm glad to hear that situation is behind you. "Love" "the love of" has made, and will continue to allow us to make decisions we would not otherwise make. Like you said, you were not afraid...because, it's difficult to think someone you have shared a deep connection with would end your life. I'm sure your experiences could be life changing for someone.
his son seems like he has such a loving nature, im sure he will grow up to have all the great father his father had. all my love to this strong young man i wish him nothing but peace and safety as he grows older
Nicholas, what a son to be proud of, wow! Even at such a young age, has the head of a well grounded, intelligent man. My heart breaks for all the family. I was so relieved that justice was served. RIP David
One thing is pretty certain.Tracy absolutely loathed him.She projects contempt whenever asked talking about his persona and activities.There was no love lost there
My heart breaks for that young lad having to live without his dad ,who was murdered.l sincerely hope he finds you strength to get through this awful time,i have no doubt that his dad will be looking down on him with a big proud smile on his face.
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@@evoluna3056 Likewise I am in Europe - can't view so grateful for these old episodes on UA-cam!
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The son crying about his Dad not calling him back broke my heart 💔😢
Poor kid 😭
I felt terrible that they asked him who he thought killed his dad. The kid just lost his dad ,his mother I'm sure has told Tracy did it. What do you expect the kid to say
This was aired in 2007, so the son is about 30 now. I wonder how he's doing. He had a dad who loved him, huge loss.
So that guy was rocking that Sweet Mullet in 2007. Wow.
@@ApidaeBee lmao
I’m hoping this precious guy has gone on to have a family of his own. He had two very loving parent’s and they did a beautiful job of raising Nickolas
Yes. Said they were married in 1990, and the son was born the following year. So he's now age 32. I hope he's living a good life with people who care.
Sis they ever find the murderer?
His son breaking down in tears and it tore me up inside. He is so young yet you can see hes trying desperately to keep it together. He seems mature beyond his years. I hope he gets all the love, support, and therapy he needs. Smh.
My dad is one of the janitorial supply witnesses. We had this episode recorded on VHS, but who knows what happened to that. Glad to finally see this episode available, after searching on and off for years!
watching this whole episode I didn't know what to believe until they showed the janitorial supply witnesses. After that, plus the evidence that they found muriatic acid in her home, I believed she did it. The ex wife had every reason to lie to make her look guilty. A janitorial supply company had no reason not to tell the truth
@@carlweiskott7623 same
@@carlweiskott7623she got visibly nervous when they asked her if she rented a UHaul, she wasn’t expecting the detectives to figure it out till one of the neighbors pointed it out ….the detectives found the wheel print from where David body got left …. There is just too much evidence
Good for him for standing up for what's right
@@carlweiskott7623There were too many "coincidences" before it even reached to that part that pointed to her guilt.I As soon as the police informed her of his death and she said "How did you identify the body?", it was clear as day she did it.
Also:
• the gun David kept in the safe at the house is suspiciously missing
• the mattress on the bed he slept on was surprisingly brand new
• the chords for the electric blanket he was wrapped up and burnt in was at the house laying on the floor
• the cleaning items discounted with the card were all found at the house
Tracey is the world’s unluckiest person to just happen to ask a janitorial supply store how to remove blood stains a day after her husband stopped answering phone. THEN to have a woman of similar build park same vehicles as Tracey’s at a store she goes into to buy the same exact chemicals the supply store told Tracey she would need AND happens to use Tracey’s rewards card.
Then all those supplies just happen to be at Tracey’s house!! Holy sh…where’s the Tylenol?
😆 🤣! I love your sarcasim!!!!
What I love is how the defense attorney says it is all innuendo, and they have nothing.....😄
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@dianehardison2133 Napolean once said "never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake". The defense lawyer is embarrassing himself; his client is a liar. I am half-way through the video now and know (without knowing) how it will end.
God forbid a stranger, that looks just like me, uses MY discount card, somehow, kills my wife. 😮
The fact that she tried to blame the ex wife is beyond evil. She already took that kid's father, and then she tried to take his mom from his as well. Wow.
@@InspektoraDeFrutas actually it’s pretty obvious it was Tracy.
Tracy had motive, and reason. Not only that but she has no alibi. I agree that this woman was indeed evil. The hair in the surveillance video is consistent with Tracy and not the ex wife. The ex wife had short hair.
@@heavilyartisticthe ex wife had more motive than Tracy.
@@InspektoraDeFrutas better "turn 2 jesus", he's healing blind and deaf ppl because if the discount card is the only thing you "registered" in your brain... it means that you need him asap
@REPENTandTURN2Jesus they found all the cleaning supplies the woman bought with her discount card in Tracey's house. Plus, the son saw the gun in the house safe. Said his dad showed it to him. Why would he lie? She killed that man with his own gun, then disposed of it.
Seeing the wee boy crying cause he will never see his DAD again is pure heartbreaking.. 🏴
It really is. The poor boy.
And the TV show loves it. They will exploit the heck out of that boy and his pain. They don’t care.
Seeing him cry hurt my heart. I feel so bad for him.
and all because of ... wait for it - a woman. Note to self, never, ever trust a woman.
Agreed poor kid
Her story is just as true as her lawyer's hair.
And teeth 😂😂😂
Tracey’s Lawyer looks like a Cartoon Character 😂😂😂 The hair, too perfect and those teeth are unbelievably not natural 😂😂😂
@@AyrianaPulliamI can’t get past the hair to even get to the teeth
@@jennifers8843 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
She only cried when she was talking about how difficult it was when she was arrested, that the monitor gave her bruises. When she was talking about David, it sounded like she hated him.
Good observation, agreed.
Noticed that too.
I agree
They weren't together
she is a femme fatale
Using her discount card to pick up her cleaning supplies with the Penske truck parked outside was a brilliant move by Tracy.
Amateur lol
Yes, but she saved 19 cents, so there is a bright side.
@@Matt-xv2cp lmaooo
@@Matt-xv2cp I haven't finished this yet, but hopefully she received at least 19 years for saving that $0.19
@@Matt-xv2cp and the results are in, she is definitely serving more than 19 years to save that $0.19
It is scary how she never shed a single tear drop speaking about her ex but everytime she cries she speaks only about herself!
Typical narcissistic sociopath. They care only about themselves.
A true sociopath.
If your ex is trash why would you cry.
It’s wonderful that Nicholas will remember his dad in his own way. Some children don’t get that chances.
My heart aches for David's sweet son. Seeing how much he loved and missed his Dad.
I found his FB, & he is doing extremely well ❤️
@@b294-r7q great!
He’s not sweet. He’s a bully at school. You may want to ask his colleagues from school
@@tomspeed3354 ooh 😮
@@tomspeed3354You have no evidence for that.
Amazing that she still said she didn't do it. The truck tyre marks, the reward card, the muriatic acid, the store assistants x 2 whom she spoke to .. Heavens give me strength!
She was so guilty my goodness and she kept denying it smh
She thought she was smart by erasing any evidence in the house, but uses a card to buy cleaning supplies to save few cents😀 I think she was so used to use that card that she completely forgot.
@@TheRight-handedStranger Yes she didn't realize it would identify her. She thought it was just a savings card.
She is guilty as sin
The security photo that had a body figure identical to hers.
This era was peak 48 Hours for me!! Love the older episodes ❤
good sopries and reporting, but the intro and outro "music" is annoying
I agree with you. Those journalists were much more interesting.
What era was this?
@@24get24give it's so overpowering and unnecessary.
I like the music too 🤷🏽♀️
That discount card got me. And that glorious toupee. On another note, seeing the son say he’ll never see his father again was heartbreaking :(
The fact that she really thought people would not believe it was her on the video in the store USING HER DISCOUNT CARD. Once I saw the card was used, I had no doubt she did it.
She was so guilty
Ya, the card sold it for me too. Lol
And her fiancé still believes she’s innocent 🤦🏻♀️
I'm surprised that they didn't try and blame Nicholas
If the ex wife stood to gain financially, maybe she borrowed the discount card to frame her…?
Thank you to 48 hours to always posting their episodes on UA-cam. I love the old episodes like this !
The old episodes are the best
Me, too!
Me, too! Can't find them anywhere else!
Forensic Files versions are more objective than 48 hours'versions.
23:52 - What does Steven Tyler have to do with this case?
I know the defense attorneys job is to cast doubt on this client but to insinuate his 1st wife killed him is absolutely pathetic! Shame on him and shame on her for not owing what she did.
Any lawyer who accepts to defend a criminal is a disgust. They both belong to prison.
Criminal-defense lawyers are the scurge of the profession.
His narrative could have worked if not for the video footage of the woman in the store who used Tracy’s discount card. That woman looks nothing like the 1st wife AT ALL.
@@Userhdhd-t5l Nah, the constitution guarantees that everyone is owed a proficient defense, regardless of their perceived guilt and that guarantee is on place for a reason.
@@sarahunderwood8952 read the comment and get it first. Criminal sympathizer!
She's so cold and nonchalant when she was talking about David. Gives me shivers down my back. Daauummnn!!!
The son is wise beyond his years. Bless his soul 😭💔
Amen Momma
Amen ❤
Hard won wisdom
Those witnesses about cleaning products sealed her fate. They had nothing to gain and the coincidence of that same lady appearing on camera buying the same cleaning product is way too coincidental. She's guilty
But-she saved 19 cents!
@@jerimiller5651 😂😂
Those are the two things that really sealed it for me, too.
@@jerimiller5651😂
Based off of socials, Nicholas seems to be doing better. He’s married and works as an agent for a life insurance company. Glad he’s going ok
Man I was going to look him up! Thanks for sharing.
Blessings on his and that is a good job. hope he has a life full of love, hope and healing.
That is so good to hear. That baby crying broke my heart
Don’t be creepy. Jesus Christ. Leave the victims alone
Good to know 🙏 🙏
The Forensic Files version shows the evidence is much clearer.
1. She rented and used the Penske truck to purchase the cleaning stuff.
2. She brought her black dog to the store (captured by the camera's footage)
3. She used her discount card
4. The Penske truck wheel print was in the location where they found David's body
5. There were 2 lexus cars parked in the same parking lot, one white color (David's car) & the other one black color (Tracey's car) and also the Penske's Truck was there.
All this evidence helped the jury to decide less than 4hrs that Tracy Frame was guilty.
Thanks for the extra info. She was pretty convincing in this video.
Not only that she claimed the lady in the video didn't look like her at all.. Yet we can all see a very strong rresemblance... So why couldn't she muster it up and say the truth which would have been, "It sure is an oddity... But I swear that is not me" oh she didn't want to go there..
@@meancombat877 lol. Exactly! Big RED FLAG. narcs are very good at this type of lying.
I'm impressed how she got all those vehicles to that parking lot on her own. And how she lured david somewhere to shoot him where blood or bullets could never be found.
Wow! I'll have to look that up.
The use of her discount card to purchase muriatic acid by a woman who looks very much like her while a Penske truck she rented is in the Tom Thumb parking lot seals her fate.
I was supporting Tracy's innocence until I heard about the muriatic acid. The body shape is easily camouflaged with clothing. I'm sure her besotted swain helped.
@@irenemax3574 Same! I thought there was a chance she didn't do it...but the acid is what did it for me too. Especially since they found it in the house.
A person just needs your phone number to use a discount card at any of the grocery stores here. Honestly the person in the video didn't look like her. But when I heard the muratic acid, my doubt was gone
@@lauradavis4848 that person had the same type body like her, that's definitely her and the acid, the truck she rented oh plz. That woman was her
@@irenemax3574 Same. The very specific acid sealed the deal for me. She even asked the clerk about getting blood out. Say what?
Omg the amount of years this poor boy had to age in such a short time due to this. My heart goes out to him. 🥺
*_IKR???!!! God bless him !!!_* 💔
But he is better off- a lying dad like that totally deceived his son, didn’t prepare him and likely would’ve passed on his debt and bad habits.
@@water.77 kids are far too young to understand that. He clearly loved his father and loss is traumatic even if your loved one is flawed.
@@water.77 Not for any of us to say. No one is perfect. Despite his misgivings elsewhere, he clearly cared for and loved his son. Nicholas was my same age in 2007, my dad ain’t perfect either but I’m grateful to have had him. I hope wherever he is now he is doing well and cherishes his memories.
Poor kid is a mess and that is so sad to watch. Looks like he truly had a strong relationship with his dad. This is so sad.😢
His poor son...he's the one that has lost the most, and it's just heartbreaking. You can see the deep pain in his sweet little face. How could someone be that cold, to take another person's life over something as petty as anger?! It's disgusting.
Tracy is the type of person who will pass the lie detector. She looks so calm.
And she's pretty which always helps with everything 🙄
I dunno… she seems like a narcissist. If you’ve been around a lot of narcissists, you can really past their bs lies by their reactions. Her closing her eyes after her lies is pretty strong as far as body language. Not that that is always correct. But she makes it obvious. Lie detector tests are unreliable anyway but I don’t think she would pass one. If she does, it’s bc she believes her own lies.
The lie detector is pseudoscience. The guy who invented it literally said it was equivalent to a Ouija Board. There's a reason the results are not permissible in court as evidence. It's more used to gauge a person's demeanor and willingness. More of a psychological game by the cops.
True, but she can't pass my lie detector test 😭 her eyes and stories are all sketchy. Lmao
likely because she's innocent.
Am I the only one that notices she has not once showed emotion when she was talking about her husband but started to cry when he brought up her getting arrested like what???
Crying for herself and no one else! Heartless.
She’s a narcissist…that’s how they are. Zero accountability and no remorse for anyone else.
Yea and the first thing she said to describe her feelings towards him when they met was that he was "nice". She never truly loved him
I always look for that.
How wise for his son Nicholas to say, “You can’t understand that kind of person”. So much respect to Donna for carrying this tragedy with strength and grace, and being both a great Dad and Mom to Nicholas! 🙏🏼 The jury clearly understood that the circumstantial evidence was waaaay beyond a REASONABLE DOUBT. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I really didn't think there was any evidence . I think she probably did it if I was on jury there no way I can say there enough evidence to convict her
@@funtyes1970The cleaners had me convinced without the card, and the card had me convinced without them! Add those together and it's a no brainer!
I didn't see her that way at all; some things I can't quite put my finger on which really bothered me most about her the most, but through the entire video, she seemed petty, jealous, and almost smug to me an unpleasant combination at best or am I the only one?
I was just gonna ask how she was able to film this episode and wasn’t in jail yet lol. I’m glad you said she went to trial because I was worried. (Haven’t finished the episode yet)
@@24get24give yeah I noticed that to
“Who’d want him dead?”
“Well, the people that he owes money”
“Why wouldn’t Tracy want him dead”
“Well, he owes her money”
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Love This 😅
Bingo!!! They didn’t see how they incriminated Tracy with those statements! 😂
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A gambling debt is deadlier than a casual debt though lol, those people can get real crazy
These lawyers are pathetic. I hope his son is thriving and found healing.
As someone who spent several years tangled up with a psychopath....I tell you the last words spoken by his SON ARE OF PROFOUND INSIGHT....."YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND A PERSON LIKE THAT ".....(I paid hard for those lessons...).
Life is a journey....
It's because they are lacking a humanity chip in their brain. Even the Bible warns of such people. They are called in the bible 'reprobate' and/or 'of a depraved mind'. In other words, they are devoid of the spark of divinity, bereft of any truth. We call them psychopaths.
You are a Survivor. Glad you are here to share your experience. Thank you.
Rozumiem cię w stu procentach bracie... Ja tez sowicie zapłaciłem taką lekcję czy po prostu... wiedzę... Niestety niektóre 'rany' dlugo się goją czy nawet pozostawiają na zawsze i z czasem trzeba sie nauczyć z nimi żyć...
@@godzilla928 trying to Google translate. "I understand you 100% bro. I do too. I paid that lesson or just knowledge..."
@@godzilla928 następnym razem wpisz swoją odpowiedź w Google Tranlate i skopiuj i wklej do komentarza, abyśmy nie musieli tak ciężko pracować, aby przeczytać ?
Somebody needs to tell the old dude that people don't dislike people because they are "good looking" They disliked her because they knew what kind of evil she is. That poor child crying for his daddy breaks my heart.
you have to remember it's TX. There is a pettiness there where people do hate on others who are more successful, attractive, intelligent, etc. Not sure what drives that jealousy, but it's very prevalent there.
you are right...my brothers always thought "I was jealous of them because they are better looking than me..I set them straight. I was never jealous of that like who cares?.." people don't hate or dislike people just because of their looks for sure...
Nope, they do it all the time.;You're assuming everyone has morals and ethics. They don't.
@@l-b284And Texas women are full of themselves. My husband is originally from there and has confirmed that.
They saw right through her. Just watching the video I can pickup on the coldness.
Just frigid.
The discount card at the store: nailed it. She always used the card. Couldn’t break the long time habit.
😅I agree, out of habit..she forgot amd it was the one piece of evidence that did her in!
I agree with you. As did the two guys from the cleaning place.
@@robbarron4066They had me convinced without the card, and the card had me convinced without them! Add those together and it's a no brainer!
@@robbarron4066 And they found everything in her home.
Absolutely. That was the exact moment I said “oh nah. It was her”
That poor boy, he loved his dad and his dad was so good to his boy! And seeing him cry and missing his dad and not understanding why? , prayers for this poor baby
TOO BAD THE DAD DIDNT CARE ABOUT HIS OTHER KID
"This poor baby" is currently in his 30s
Amen
🙏🙏🙏 for the boy and prayers for a long life behind bars for that murderer.
@@jimwerther doesn't mean he misses his dad any less
I’ve seen the forensic files on this case too. She’s soooo guilty, how she can still deny it is ridiculous
There is also a forensic files Episode of this ?! Oh wow!!
23:52 - What does Steven Tyler have to do with this case?
@@steveludwig4200 😂😂 I can’t unsee that now
Forensic Files did give more details for sure.
Look at the purse. It looks like the same size and the square of it. Plus they need to look at her shoes in that store where she is walking out. What about the hat too. Does she own a hat like that 🤔 I thought the dentist was gay oh wow I still do 😄
Yes, more old episodes. They are fantastically produced and your classic presenters are legends. Please put some up with Susan Spencer next.
I am glad that Erin Moriarty, and Peter Van Sant are still around. They are the last of the originals
Susan Spencer is my favorite. She always seems really engaged with the interviews. Kind of like Keith Morrison.
Tracey you deserve to be where you at !
My heart breaks into a thousand pieces seeing the pain his son is in.
Wise words from a young man. "You can't understand that type of person."
Wise words from a lost kid who been manipulated by his mum, who knows what really happened to his dad.
@freddiekersh8658
Soooo her loyalty card use to buy cleaning supplies?? Excuse that for me please
I get so excited for these when they are full episodes.
🤣🤣🤣 I get excited when I see one of these episodes that I've never seen before as I've seen just about every dateline and 48 hours there is
I look forward to them, too, because there is NO way I'm going to pay to watch them!
All these UA-camrs are great and all but there is nothing like a full length episode not covered 100x by everyone just with different deliveries!
She lied about being an accountant and a CPA, when she didn’t even graduate from college. She was a bookkeeper! If she lied about that, she will lie about anything. She is a liar.
And she did get something, she got his house!
"I put a ring on her finger" Like walking into a burning building with your eyes wide open.
Right
In a gasoline suit.
@@terr777 lol
Yep
If "pick me" were a guy
I am curious why 48 left out the part where Tracy was captured by CCTV cameras with her big black dog switching cars in the parking lot. I am sure she also said it wasn’t her with her black dog, like it wasn’t her with her discount card.
Oh yeah 😂I saw this on forensic files lol
Well, it's CBS, so she is a woman. She has to be the victim 🤦♀️
@@adddriiiisaaaa5840 Oh dayummm there’s a Forensic Files episode about this??
Nice 😎 Thank you!!
Her only regrets are that she was sloppy, she doesn’t regret taking someone life at all.
My exact sentiments 💯
That dentist is a piece of work!😂😂😂
Yeah he's a strange one
There's a sucker born every hour
@@peetti3608😂😂😂😂😂😂
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I wonder if they’re still together. 😂
What a sweet son Nicholas is, hope he is doing well in life.
"You can't understand that kind of person" from the son.... 100% true.
Yea he really summed it all up there. Wise kid. Had to grow up too fast.
So the cleaners told her very specifically what it would take to clean up a crime scene, naming very unusual chemicals, and the very next day a "mystery woman" is at the store buying those exact chemicals, and using Tracy's store card...and we're supposed to believe that wasn't her?
23:52 - What does Steven Tyler have to do with this case?
Narcissist expect to be believed.
Right. And her fiance claiming that it isn't Tracy because of the thighs LOL its clearly her based on the figure, the waist, and hair.
And she says, "It doesn't even look like me." What a lie. There is very many strong resemblance.. She couldn't even muster up that truth. She is guilty for sure.. Lots more points to her guilt.
I have muriatic acid in my garage, don’t have a pool either. It’s hardly some kind of mystery compound that’s unheard of. I mean, they sell it on grocery store shelves.
Her nonverbal cues are wild. Watch her sequences again when she is questioned. Every time she lies to a question or in statement she literally closes her eyes for 1 seconds and holds them closed. At some points even nodding or shaking her head opposite to her answer subconsciously assuring herself and even telling on herself at times!!! It’s wild!!!
So true.
Its hard to fool children because they're looking when adults are not... they're very observing and perceptive. People keep discounting their wisdom because of their innocence.
Very well said 🗣️👏🏾🎯. My mother always said children are sponges 🧽 and when you think they’re not looking and listening they are. You can recall a day and time and incident and ask them what happened and they would run the whole scenario down to you. Geniuses!
My heart goes out to that lil kid. I’m sure he’s an adult now… I hope he’s doin alright these days.
He is currently in his 30s
Could probably have kids of his own by now , too , and I hope his life is as good as it can possibly be even though he doesn't have his father there with him
Why was Lisa Hemby not in the documentary?
@@Dapo_A who is that?
@@b294-r7q the second ex wife
Imagine trying to blame the ex wife and then getting caught because you couldn't help but save 19cents
She wanted to look like a normal grocery routine lol
Forensic Files said it was 34 cents.
well this isn't forensic files
As a father of an 18 year old son that im about to watch graduate from highschool and seeing this has me bawling for this youn man grieving for his father!!!
She wanted to keep the house that David put in her name. It was a big mistake which he paid for with his life. His son lost a good father.
Wasn't the father a gambler thats why they were having financial troubles?
I don’t think he was a good father but otherwise I agree with you
@@AriKhuu I understand, I was listening to his son who spoked very loving words about his father.
If I was ever in trouble I would put everything in my children's name but that's just me 🤷♀️
@@AriKhuu I agree, drinking, gambling, cheating, prostitutes, spending money faster than he could make it.
Hope the boy can get on, such a smart, bright, and friendly child.
"The boy" is currently in his 30s
@@jimwerther hope the boy is doing well then ...
@@kamrul828
Hope so too, but he's past boyhood.
@@jimwerther why are you still talking about his “boyhood “ ?? is that important??
@@nem5136
I was just pointing out that he is many years removed from that
Seeing Nicholas nervous and crying broke my heart… I wish Nicholas a bright and successful future and much happiness throughout his life. ❤
He's 32 this year
@@ktcooki276 Oh, my…. So this wasn’t recent coverage, to say the least.
Nonetheless, I hope like is treating Nicholas kindly. He’s had enough to deal with for one lifetime. ❤️
Tracy is so clearly guilty. “It doesn’t even look like me” 🙄🙄🙄 literally looks EXACTY like her.
It is amazing how this woman calmly lies in the face of OBVIOUS evidence that she’s the killer.
She was a pathological liar. Lying was part of her DNA 🧬🤣
She's a sociopath
I watched her answer his questions “did you shoot him?” “Did you wrap him in the blanket?” Do you know who did?” I noticed for every no answer she closed her eyes. I think that was her tell.
Why do people say this? This is normal behavior for sociopaths, borderline personality disorder, narcissistic people, demonically possessed people, and why do you people keep assuming that everyone thinks like you?! Come on!!!
@@thehollyberry7975 yes i though the same,when people lie most of the time they blink
I am impressed by his kind , genuine, down to earth son! He speaks highly intelligent and is wise way beyond his years! He will excel in anything he chooses and will make an excellent father and family man one day. I pray God blesses him with a beautiful family of his own and all the success in life that he well deserves! 🙏Such a fine young man. He has had great morals & values instilled in him. I'm proud FOR his mother. What an amazing boy he is already at such a young age at that! It's a shame this ol world hardened him at such a young vulnerable age. May God bless him in all his endeavors in life and fulfill everything he will ever want or need.❤❤❤
The boy is currently in his early 30s
@@jimwerther Yes, and all those observations and well wishes still apply. 😊
Amen🌹
I'm very impressed with the maturity of this young man.
He is 30 years now ..
The boy cried so much. He really loved his dad. It just goes to show you that even if the killer killed out of anger and revenge, it leaves an impact on the people who loved the guy. The family said, you took the rest of his life away from him and you took him away from us.
She felt for herself though when the rest of her life was taken away from her in the form of life imprisonment.
Honestly that does look like her in the store surveillance video. She dropped off his car - she drove the rental truck & left it…… Her mistake was using her discount card! She thinks her looks can fool anybody, looks fade honey but the truth is the truth!!! Narcissism at its finest!!!! #justicefordavid
She and the boyfriend dentist did it which is why he is very supportive of her till the end. She alone couldn’t have done all that because David is 240 lbs at 5’10”. She hates her husband with disdain. There was no emotion but negativity when she talks about him. The dentist boyfriend also speaks poorly of David. Also, David told his ex wife that whatever happens to him, it’s Tracy Frame.
I thought he was 6'4"?
Roger Roger he was 6’4.
I agree, those were exactly my thoughts as I was watching. The Dentist definitely played a role. She didn’t/couldn’t act on it alone
I honestly don't think the dentist had anything to do with this, I think sadly he is blinded by love and hopefully with her being gone, his eyes will open to the facts and he can also move on in his life.
@mineva Basilio sounds like you have this all wrapped up. What are they paying their police force for- they should just hire you.
Tracy's lawyer's hair just made her more guilty than she'll ever be 😂
That toupee isn't fooling anyone! 😂
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Best comment here!
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I thought the same thing
Her goofy dentist fiancé and wig wearing big dentures lawyer are cracking me up!! She had those men mesmerized
That one guy is so blinded by her beauty he has the nerve to sleep next to a murderer... people are just sick.
Yes that's true but we are people
His ex-wife showed 1,000x more emotions than Tracy did. The only time Tracy cried when she was talking about herself. Disgusting...
NARCISSISTS cry because they feel VICTIMIZED or wrongly accused...they may even cry when something happens that AFFECTS their sense of SUPERIORITY and SELF-IMPORTANCE.
Not only did she not cry, she bashed him several times
He made a mistake by leaving that woman
when you were up last night looking for 48 hrs episodes that you haven’t watched and then they post a new one this morning ! 💕💕 please post more
Donna's pain in David's loss is so emotionally heartbreaking and having to raise nick without his dad. She breaks for him.
I feel so sad and heartbroken about this clever boy. May God protect him.
"This clever boy" is currently in his 30s
The only person I feel for in this whole situation is the kid. All of these adults should have made better decisions in life. This poor boy is going to hurt for the rest of his life because someone selfishly took away his Daddy. May God help this poor Boy and keep him safe.
You don't even feel bad for the guy that was murdered? By all means, he was a great father, and even his ex-wife came forward to help & defend him.
Amin!
agreed, though wouldn't a kind "god" have done that by not killing his father in the first place?
David seemed like he was typical DFW pseudo wealthy trash. But he didn't deserve to be killed. He was a good father and it's obvious that his son will be hurt forever by this senseless tragedy.
Tracy is just as trashy I know that sort all too well.
@@24get24give At home -you must have heard it once at least -father says “if you don't abide by “my” rules, you should go”, do you think he was a good father; if he were he would have looked for a good mother and wife, not just a pretty woman!!!who would ruins both lives; his and his son’s.
As a Texan who doesn't live too far from Grapevine David was living on the edge! Married men wanting to be Playboys can be a dangerous combination.
RIP David
BTW, The store cameras has Tracy driving off in David's Lexus leaving the moving truck in the parking lot.
@marilyn what does where you live have to do with this? Many people drive a white Lexus - that proves nothing.
@Tammy Pearce perhaps she's talking about the culture of that neighborhood.
@@tammypearce7491 she live where it happened. And… it was DAVID’S white Lexus. Are you Tracy??? I can’t I:aging anyone else being so rude over this.
Yep Grapevine is Dallas folks…so you can imagine
Ok , he is a playboy that doesn't mean Tracy should have killed him .
I grew up on lake grapevine. First at the twin coves marina, then at the north shore yacht club. Greatest childhood ever!! Big thanks to my parents for just a great life filled with love and fun.
It is a great place to hang out!
Sounds nice.
I want to write a story set in that location.
EVERY TIME Tracy responds to the TV journalist with a denial, she blinks (or closes) her eyes. EVERY TIME. That’s what is referred to as a “tell”.
Omg my heart breaks for his son... I can just feel his pain. I lost my dad at 15, and it takes a piece of you when you lose a parent 😔 😢
This woman is COLD 🥶 as ICE 🧊!! Gives me chills 😮
🙌☝️
She shed one tear, and it was for herself. She’s where she belongs.
NARCISSISTS cry because they feel VICTIMIZED or wrongly accused...they may even cry when something happens that AFFECTS their sense of SUPERIORITY and SELF-IMPORTANCE.
Her sentences are so well thought out and put together. She is so cold. Like others my heart goes out to his son 😪 I hope he finds peace 🙏
I thought the same thing! 🥶 She takes “toxic” to a whole other level.
Even the way she slipped in that domestic violence insinuation...saying 'not on a regular basis ' to the question did he ever put his hands on you. Very narcissistic. Making herself look and sound nobel and easygoing, whilst still insinuating he had put hands on her.
This woman has a tell. When she lies she shuts her eyes for longer than a blink. You can see it at every point where she would have lied. It's consistent and involuntary. She is right where she belongs. Using the discount card was absolutely reflexive. I bet it keeps her up at night wondering how she could have been that stupid.
For real. And they kept saying the woman in the video didn't look like her. It looked exactly like her, lol.
@@digby_dooright Nope. The hips are far too large and wide to be Tracy. I would be insulted if I were Tracy.
Can't be the fat ex wife in the store though either.
Wow, so I wasn't the only one who picked that up. That's really interesting. Everyone has tells, and that is part of hers.
@@martyg2333 she also could've been slightly heavier back then. I think the interview was about 3 years later.. Or, she could've had on extra clothing to appear heavier.
Yes, her eyes tell everything! Then the discount card.... Then the woman's body on the tape, moving precisely like her, then she only could cry when she was in jail.
She’s so detached until she’s been caught and sentenced. That’s the very first sign of emotion. Because she was caught and is in prison. Not because her husband died, not because ‘someone’ murdered him, not because her stepson has lost his dad.
Pretty clear who is guilty.
Maybe because he was abusive and that's why she was so detached.His first wife was abused but she just can't say it.
@@praxym9293 I didn’t get that from watching this- so I wasn’t aware. That could explain the lack of emotion.
Yeah I’m not seeing this personally, when did she really even throw him under the bus when she easily could have? When asked if he was physically abusive she actually played it down saying shoving each other isn’t really being battered (which I agree with if they both were doing it to each other). Personally the original wife comes off as way more likely to actually do this seeing as David just happened to conveniently have a premonition that she killed him yet he only told her and no one else? Before that moment there was nothing about them keeping in touch regularly or anything that would suggest that he would confide in her and just like the defense says she would stand to benefit a lot more with him alive. The video stuff is their only kind of good evidence but still no one can say it was 100% her I’m assuming they talked to that cashier and employees there and obviously no one placed here there so that’s why that’s still speculation at all, is it crazy to suggest that it wouldn’t be hard to get ahold of her discount card if for example someone was trying to frame her? Probably not
I don't see enough evidence. No one else was questioned. Something is not right about this case.
@@colenexoxo8939 I think the evidence is sufficient considering she had cleaned up with stuff after consulting bout them.
Don't know if she killed David, but she is one cold blooded woman.
That woman is guilty! She used her own savings card at the checkout counter. That was her in the video. How could she deny this?
Right!! Her story is as believable as her attorney’s hair!!
She's used to getting over on folks because of her "looks"
Edit: changed looks to "looks"
@@sparklingwiggle22 😂
@@z_edWhat looks
@@z_ed Looks, lmao. She's definitely below avg. looking. Actually on the homely side w/o makeup.
Poor Nicholas. My heart breaks for him. This is pure evil
Her lawyers hair made me lol. Also, she shouldn't have used her discount card to save 19 cents lol. She may have gotten away with it.
...and false teeth, lol
Correct 😂
She probably thinks about this all the time in jail
The hair AND the teeth!! LMAO
@@ameliashostak4764 Just one more crime in this story
The littlest things is what made me know she did it.
Not a tear
The ankle monitor gave her bruises
The reward card being used
The most ignorant part of this whole ordeal is that dweeb of a fiancé of hers that’s so desperate he’s fallen for a woman who wouldn’t look at him twice and he’s so desperate he doesn’t even care that he has a woman he thinks is gorgeous even if she’s in prison. Legs that wouldn’t quit… he sounds so trashy and desperate.
@heavenzvoice
Agree with your post 100%! Especially what you posted about the fiancee!
And he has a mullet.
Good show! You’re right.
Ofc no tears, being with David destroyed her life and they were already separated as they had issues. What do you want, to pretend that she cares more than she did about a man she didn't have much left in common with? If you want acting watch a movie
@@catalina5382it tells a lot shot you who you identify with
She never cried until the end, about herself.
you're right, Lexi. that does make you think...
You got it. The rest “of my life”. She’s thinking about all the parties, boats, bikinis, jewelry and suitors she’s missing out on. How dare they lock me up. 😮
One Big Mistake was talking to police, WITHOUT A LAWYER!!
No, I think using a discount card.
Reason she talk to detectives without lawyer so she doesn’t look as if she has anything to hide and thought she can handle detectives question s
Over confident
Guilt never leaves u - always get caught
@@hasukeas5749 anyone speaking Ng to cops is not smart. And yes, many have gotten Away with it, by Not talking to cops, without a lawyer. There's several cases that haven't been solved, with obvious suspects.
Innocent people go to jail/prison everyday because they spoke to Cops, because they had nothing to hide. But cops aren't intelligent, and all it takes is one to get tunnel vision. "You said it was 12 o'clock that you went to the bank, but it was 12:16! You're a liar and guilty!". They will "Use your Words against you".
@@eaxu8046 Yep, that too.
Lawyer up!
Using the store discount card to save 19¢ is, in my opinion, absolutely hilarious and the most damning evidence that the person in the video is her, and therefore she killed him.
That and the fact that the body type was practically identical and the fact that two witnesses at the janitorial company said she was desperate to remove blood stains and then the "mystery" woman bought the very product they recommended to Tracy. What a coincidence..... not.
I love how un-smug, assured, and hopeless Tracy looked at the very end when asked about the appeal. David's first wife and son truly loved him I believe. Good job DA and jury!!! They got this one right.
Thank you 48hours for putting this full episode on
Note: If a loved one tells you " If I am killed, please look at XYZ" without them attempting to stay as far as possible away from that person....... please slap some sense into them. How are you giving me a warning about your life that you are clearly ignoring? Prayers to the victim's family. Violence is never ok.
The ex-wife might be lying about that statement
@thecatatemyhomework I don't care whether she is lying or not... it's obviously too late for him anyways. My comment was for anyone "alive" who may be experiencing what I mentioned. Neither one of us knows her truths or her lies.
@@thecatatemyhomework You both make great points!
Coming from someone who told my Mom, "If I go missing, blame _ _ _ _ _," I guess I just wasn't that scared. You're right, though, and I did try to leave. All told, we love our kids more than we disliked each other. (All is well now, thank heavens!)💜
@hollybeth1279 I'm glad to hear that situation is behind you. "Love" "the love of" has made, and will continue to allow us to make decisions we would not otherwise make. Like you said, you were not afraid...because, it's difficult to think someone you have shared a deep connection with would end your life. I'm sure your experiences could be life changing for someone.
his son seems like he has such a loving nature, im sure he will grow up to have all the great father his father had. all my love to this strong young man i wish him nothing but peace and safety as he grows older
I hope he finds peace poor kid
He is currently in his 30s
@@jimwerther oh, duh. well i hope he is doing well wherever he is.
That lawyers toupee is epic!😂
Nicholas, what a son to be proud of, wow! Even at such a young age, has the head of a well grounded, intelligent man. My heart breaks for all the family. I was so relieved that justice was served. RIP David
I'm thinking his sons name is Nicholas
@@sally3024-h4c Oh no of course it is!! Oh I feel terrible, how did I have that name in my head?! Thanks for pointing out!!
@@sally3024-h4c Thanks again
One thing is pretty certain.Tracy absolutely loathed him.She projects contempt whenever asked talking about his persona and activities.There was no love lost there
The guy describing lake drama and picadillos he's funny. I bet he knows everyone's gossip. 😅
My heart breaks for that young lad having to live without his dad ,who was murdered.l sincerely hope he finds you strength to get through this awful time,i have no doubt that his dad will be looking down on him with a big proud smile on his face.