2020 Shelby GT350 R Heritage Edition and a 1987 Buick GNX | The Appraiser - Ep. 7
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- On this episode of The Appraiser, Colin checks out a just-off-the-lot 2020 Ford Shelby GT 350R Heritage Edition, as well as a hot-rodded 1987 Buck Grand National GNX that definitely isn’t as new.
Will the owner of the GT 350 regret paying over MSRP for his flat-plane crank canyon carver or will he be pleasantly surprised by the market? Will the GNX with some (relatively) serious miles and mods on it do as well as the owner hopes or will Colin be making a correction to the owner’s way of thinking? As always, Colin’s got the answers to these questions and a lot more. Join him as he digs in to arrive at a value for both cars and then shares them with the owners. Will they agree with him? Will you? Sound off in the comments section and let Colin know!
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Gnx with mileage above 6000 miles! Finally someone who bought it to drive it!
My kinda guy.
1/4 of a mile at a time 👍😎😎😎
My GNX has 110k. It gets driven a lot!
Beautiful car the best episode so far
Look at that odometer again! 63,810 miles! This one has actually been enjoyed!
Was that not a 10/10 burnout. Great control. Good Work.
tires didnt hop and pulled off the drift perfectly :D
Yeah, they don't hop because of that rear end setup, and the dude pulled one heck of an exit off lol!!!
I bet that mustang owner would have wrapped that 350 around a pole if tried to do a burnout! Colin is a champ that gnx is nice and he actually drives it!
Braking burnouts are BS.
If I'm being honest, I love the Buick GNX, probably more than the GT350R. But damn you just can't beat V8 and a manual transmission. The heritage edition really tops that car off. I do think someone will pay up for that GNX during the climate we are in right now, but I have a feeling that guy is definitely one of those "No low ballers, I know what I have" types of dudes.
That's the first vibe I got when I saw the intro. I get that feeling from the monte Carlo/ Buick owners of that time frame.
That GNX only had 60,820 miles on it when it sold back in Oct 2001. You guys wouldn't believe on how cheap it sold for. I was going to bid on it but passed. I kick myself to this day. The car had terrible paint job . It looked like it had an inch of paint on it. I know the complete story on this particular car. He obviously hasn't driven it much in the last 21 years that's for sure. GNX 503 definitely has an interesting history.
I'm 51 and was a teen in the 80s and EVERYONE knew that if an all black Buick pulled up next to your IROC or 5.0, you didn't mess with it. At all. They should have added an E and named it GENX!
51 yrs too and my sentiments exactly. Another was a Syclone or Typhoon. My buddy’s 87 GT was fast, but we backed down to those, too.
I’m 52 and remember those days well. I had a 89 TA and knew not to mess with a GN. So did all my buddies that had 5.0s. I’m lucky enough now to have a ‘86 GN.
I'm 43. I actually knew 2 different people with Grand Nationals. One was a GNX. It sat in a garage for 15 years, undriven. Those were two bad ass cars. I was just a kid, but I remeber them well.
GT350R for me. That Voodoo engine is just too good.
They sound and perform great, but they have a bad reputation for blowing up at the track. As a track instructor, I have seen it happen firsthand more than once.
@@ZeGermanHam
The Gen 2 engine fixed those issues.
@@ZeGermanHam any idea what the failure point was? Spun bearings? Head gaskets? Computer controller?
@@rhatala27 Not true. Gen 1 Voodoo has major oil consumption problems. Gen 2 Voodoo has a recall out for timing chain failure.
@@bullast2046 The gen 1 Voodoo had major oil consumption problems, and the gen 2 Voodoo has a recall out for timing chain failure. They've suffered lots of blown engines as a result of both issues.
GT350R without hesitation. That 5.2L Voodoo V8 with a 6 speed is driving nirvana. Our dealership got a regular GT350 and that thing was MEAN 🔥💀
I remember the GNX new. They were immediately lust worthy. I think they still look great and the performance is legendary.
I predicted the value of these to climb this high for the last 3 years since starting my channel. I did predict this would happen within 10 years but current world events have accelerated this significantly. They will never ever make a car like these Shelby GT350 ever!
The GNX all day everyday for me! I love that it's a driven and maintained car, and not a show queen, but he's right, at that mileage, no way it's worth $150,000!
What # do you have if I may ask?
@@_doomzday No I don't have one, just saying if I had to choose, it would be the GNX. As a car obsessed kid in the 80's, the Grand National captured my imagination; a car that could do sun 5 sec 0-60 and comfortably carry 4 people, that was a hell of a achievement back then!
GNX without a doubt. Not because I think it's the better car, but I have an affection for boxy 80s cars, Buicks, and it's just so strikingly unique.
I owned GNX418. I drove it like I stole it with 9,000 miles on it. GOOD FOR YOU!!! Love this car. I would buy it no questions. The only question would be the price.
I’d love to see the owner of the GT try to replicate that GNX burnout without hitting 20 people! Lol
That’s just mean.. lol
If you put the gnx wheels on the car it would be easy. You'd need a lot of rpm and a clutch dump to spin 315mm cup 2 rubber.
So you the GNX handles better than a 350 R Shelby Mustang. He did a great burnout because he REALLY knows his car !!
@@arkhsm I think the gt is a great car. Unfortunately, 90% of the people who own such cars don’t have the skills to justify owning them.
The GNX is a monster. I was Lucky enough to pick up a 2020 GT350R Heritage Edition. I’m happy with my choice. She’s a Great Car! She is the Car of my Dreams! Thanks for sharing this Comparison! 🤙🤙😎😎🐍🐍
GT350R is a good car to hold on to.
That’s a really tough choice. My first reaction is take the Mustang for many reasons including it being newer and “better” but that GNX is something special. I’d be torn no matter which one I’d finally choose.
The Mustang has half the production numbers, but is current to the crazy collector market. Many buyers of the GNX bought them and actually used them. Nearly all of the GT350R Heritage owners bought them and immediately made them garage queens.
They might follow similar trajectories in the future, considering they'll have similar rarity. However, the Mustang will suffer more with all that tech in it. The tech in the GT350 will become unobtainium far quicker than anything in the GNX.
They are both speacial
The paint ain't even close to stock color either. It's a nice GNX but not even close to 150K. I would love to see a flat plane Chevy engine. I don't care for Fords but that model is sharp:) I agree with your appraisal price for the Mustang. Even a non Ford guy like me would pop for that one:)
GNX is at peak value now. Stang will be at peak value 20-25 years from now. The Mustang's ceiling is higher. Especially considering it's "Golden Age" of combustion engines.
Collector cars never peak. They'll fluctuate, just like anything that's valuable, but the trend over time is ever increasing.
Voodoo go boom boom. Will be interesting to see how history treats it.
@@HerrPoopschitz - exactly... I would be perplexed by the comments section, considering the problems 350R owners are having with their cars, but then, assuming a lot of these are Ford guys who would pick a potato over any other car, as long as that potato had a mustang emblem on the front of it LOL.
@@rooh5825 internet bs gone wild.
@@em-rx1wy nice potato lol
I have a 2019 GT350 and it is so much fun to drive. I know it isn't worth 150k but it doesn't matter to me. I am not going to sell mine or keep it wrapped in plastic so the next owner can enjoy it. These cars are meant to be driven.
40k awesome miles on my 2016. Living the dream.
A burnout in a real GNX is an amazing thing to see. This guy delivered and made it truly epic. I must of watched that part 10x.
Great video Colin...I like that you tell it like it is and no sugarcoating it
If that GNX were a Mopar, a Mopar guy would pay $150k because as we all know, Mopar guys are crazy
And the GT350R...whoo boy...gimme one of those to rip around a road course in. That Voodoo engine plays sweet, sweet music.
Oh the GNX, all day, every day! Not even a question. It's interesting, has a cool story, is unique, and of course tons of fun. The other one is, well, just another Mustang that no one really notices unless you make it really loud, which then just makes it noticably irritating to 90% of everyone else. I've passed 21 Mustangs in this parking lot alone...
The 8300 rpm noise isn't for the people outside its for the people inside.
@@RCXDerp The 8300 rpm noise isn't for the people outside the city its for the people inside the city. And I love it!
Another irrational Mustang hater.
I don’t think you understand how special this mustang is. It’s not just another gt, it’s a different breed
@@mjbakedbeans Still, idk there are so many of em that unless you’re obsessed they don’t look that cool. Not bad, but GNX is a classic
I'd take the GT350R. It came out when I was 13 (I also happen to be sitting in one in my profile pic) and since then I have dreamed of owning one. Today is not that day since the entire car market is absolutely insane, but someday soon I hope to get my hands on one 🤞🏻. That said, I have always had a soft spot in my heart for boxy 80s cars.
I would take the GNX no question! Mustang might be faster and more practical but the Buick is just so much cooler. A corvette killer
Hands down the GT350R I remember those GNX Buick's sitting in dealers nobody wanted them because of the high MSRP really a 6 Cylinder automatic over a V8 manual not
even close sorry 80's Buick fans
GT 350 hands down.
I'm a Ford performance guy, however that being said . I was a young man in the 80s. I would go with the Buick just for the limited production. Either vehicle is a great investment if you get a good buy .
Both cool cars but between these two, the GNX for me. Just love square body cars. I remember my dad owning the '83 Buick Regal 5.0 limited edition. Very good memories of it.
GNX owner. I'm a Buick Guy and whether you agree with Colin or not, the facts remain that the car is far from being a $150,000 car because of all of the things Colin mentioned. It's obviously worth more to YOU, so Enjoy it!
The GNX!! What a monstrous 80s muscle car, definition of a classic now.
GNX I already have a fun manual car and I’ve always loved the grand national
GNX for me. I do agree I think the 100k is low for it.
I agree Korey!
Love the GT350, but DAAAAY'UM that GNX is gorgeous!
So this guy don’t know those Buicks worth a damn!
All spid /trunk labels for the GNX’s will have T2L. In the options list.
ASC didn’t modify the engines in any way. The turbo and intercooler was changed the EPROM in the computer was changed . The transmission shift calibration was altered slightly. The wheel welll openings was altered under the flairs. The front inner plastic wells was modified to allow the extra room for the wide 16x8 wheels .
For all Buick enthusiasts really need to check out the documentary Black Air!
That guy is exactly how I picture every single GN and GNX owner.
Whew!! That GT350R is incredible, especially the Wimbledon White cars. Great video!
I’m pretty sure he said all of them were white.
@@ellieprice363 All the Heritage Edition GT350 and GT350Rs are Wimbledon White. The 2015s were usually Oxford White.
The Buick all day long….I remember these cars when I was in high school and damn I wanted one!
I'll take the GNX for investment only, but for pure styling and driving experience the GT350 all day
I'm really enjoying this series
great job Hagerty and Colin 👍
please get some bikes in here 🤔
It's like comparing a 30 year old Audi S2 to a new RS4 in terms of performance. I'd take the GT350 easily.
GNX ALL DAY
Not everyone prefers the faster more powerful car. The comparison is legit when looking at it from an old school VS new school perspective. I'd have the GNX without hesitation.
@@broskimedula5300 For 100k? Idk, that's C6 ZR1 money. I could find several more collectors cars for the price, and definitely something that has more than just a fast 0-60 on a drag strip with sticky tires, upgraded turbo and ECU
I'm usually into the classics, but in this case it is easily the Mustang all the way.
Despite growing up the 80's the muscle cars of that era rarely gets my blood pumping and although I've learned to respect the performance and exclusivity of the GNX for its time, for me it still is an unattractive box on wheels. Also, deeply prefer a proper v8 and a manual box.
Especially when compared to the GT350 with that flatplane V8 that revs likes crazy with a unique sound aswell - plus very impressive handling.
For what it's worth
An Aussie approves that exit by the dude in the Buick.
We had the basic 3.8L Buick engine in our rear wheel drive Holden commodore VN/VP/VR 1989-1992-1994.
Great engine even naturally aspirated.
Buicks V6s carried them until they became opels.
I'd have to take the GNX. The GT350R is an amazing car but if I'm not tracking frequently any regular GT with some suspension mods would do. The GNX is much more unique these days.
The tranny is so much better in the 350 though.
@9:12 Hell everybody’s a “Buick Guy” when you’re talking about a GNX haha
The diversity of the cars featured in this series is a big part of what makes it so interesting. Looking forward to more. While his car may or may not be worth as much as he thinks it is, it's cool to see that the GNX owner has actually received some enjoyment from driving his car rather than simply parking it as an investment.
The SPID sticker on the trunk lid contains option code T2L. That's how you know it's a real X. Also there's a cowl tag by the driver wiper under the hood which is stamped GNX
Colin seems genuinely knowledgeable and credible and not trying to be excessively dramatic or reading a script as so many car guys on UA-cam are these days. Hagerty is shaming much of their competition with higher quality content than even the likes of Car and Driver, Motor Trend, etc. who generally now stoop to stupid click bate and stunts rather than sincere automotive journalism. Jason Cammisa is perhaps the Hagerty exception and the Hagerty version of cheap click bate who irrationally loves almost anything German and often resorts to cheap stunts or just plain wrong information.
Although there are clearly other cars I’d prefer to have, and even though it has never really been a favorite of mine personally, I have always been fascinated with the Buick Grand National. Even though you know what it is and how it came to be, it has always seemed to hold this degree of obscurity because of what it is, a really cool idea that was a bit unexpected back in the mid 80’s. Till this day it’s a car that, if I see one somewhere, I’m immediately saying out loud.. “There’s a Grand National…”. Definitely one of the coolest cars ever made.
That burn out is one of the reasons it's not worth WHAT you want it to be...abuse all shows
You call a simple burnout abuse???? Do you own a car?
I respect the guy who does a burnout more than the one who buys a GT350R and doesn’t drive it.
@@Sacapuntas69 i own a few...you..do you drive at all?
@@3v4761 Of course I do......a nice 20" BMX. Cool reflectors on the rims.
Some people just can't handle the truth. Both nice cars love the GT 350R. 🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲
Holy cow! Is that a crown Vic Cobra!! On the hanger back there?. Wow!!.
As a Ford guy I would take Buick all the way, its one of cars that is absent in my almost done "to have" list.
finally, someone enjoying a gnx.
god speed my dude,
Great episode , the old stuff is cool but happy to see you including new cars.
I’ve been a Ford guy since high school, but I would absolutely take any Grand National over a modern Mustang. Performance aside, I just think the GN is one of the last of the original low-tech muscle cars.
Love the GT350R. Not paying double the original MSRP, though. Maybe some avid collector, or an idiot might think it’s worth paying that much for, but there’s a reason why there’s tons of these still on the market - hardly anyone is stupid enough to pay these ridiculous prices. Rather try my bid at getting a BRAND NEW C8 Z06 directly from GM for much less, but with much more performance.
that guy did the baddest buick regal gnx burnout ever on utube.
GNX All Day. They only made 547 of them. Ultimate old school 80's car.
Colin, you’re a legend! Great balanced appraisal with superb knowledge. Love the burnout.
2:04 where's the hose that goes there?
Love this Series! A while back you mentioned there would be info on how to get vehicle on this series. So far I have not seen anything. Would love to have my One-Off build appraised. This looks like it takes place in Arizona? (Scottsdale Airpark) If so I am local 20 min away.
Thanks to the burnout, I’d offer the GNX guy $50,000 less
He's using the car the way it's intended to be used. Not rotting in a climate controlled garage.
@@kirbyswarpYes! Somewhere an old retired Buick engineer shed a tear of happiness for that burnout.
Love both cars. I can see the mustang grow in value for sure. I think thought that GNX is worth way more than the 100k that Colin suggested. Where is my wallet?
I agree Jordan!
It is.. probably 175-200k if it went to auction.
I think so too. If he sold at an auction where no other GN's were on the block that weekend. There is such a short supply of them it is a situation of "whatever someone will pay for it."
87 GNX or a regular old 87 GN long before a 2020 mustang. Hands down no question. It's not a issue of what some UA-cam says the value is, it's history and we'll proven over a dime a dozen mustang...
I had a 87 Buick regal t type and know very well the existing rivalry
That dime a dozen Mustang is 1 of 280. Meaning you'll likely never see one in the wild.
The perfect GNX and owner. I can almost guarantee I’ll never afford a gnx, but if I could, I’d like to think I’d prefer something similar to his. It’s usable and gorgeous, and clearly gets enjoyed regularly.
Welp. This was a dream of an episode. Thanks
Not even a damn question, The GT350 All Damn Day!!!! That car is perfection!! They finally built the Mustang I wanted to see! 🙏
Damn you say
@@martydeem404 What exactly are you saying?
I hope the R man actually drives the thing. What a crying shame to leave one of the greatest sports cars ever made untouched. Buy another one and keep in the wrapper if you have to, values sure as heck aren't ever going down on them
appraiser & barn find
best in this channel for me
Man, that's one hell of an exit. Who could stay unhappy with that sound regardless of value
By default the one with the stick is the way to go, even if the Grand National is a classic.
I love both cars and usually would pick the older car 60’s 70’s & 80’s but the GT350R is just a masterpiece I got to have!
I’ve driven a stock GN. The way these cars rip there is no way GM wasn’t lying about the advertised horsepower.
Beautiful Buick GNX and Shelby I would love both
Hey just up front man a very nice introduction I really appreciate that!
Just to clarify things for everyone. I bought that GNX in 2000 with 60k miles for $16,500. I sold my 12k mile 1 owner GN for $18,500 to buy the GNX. I was 26 years old with $2k cash in my pocket and a GNX, what did I blow the money on??? Performance modifications!! So yes I drive it like I originally intended to when I purchased it as a dream car that I was able to afford at the time. AND…. If you don’t appreciate a good Grand National burnout then you were born obviously after the car was made in 1987 and just don’t understand them. 😁
Hey, DesertAutoSport! Fun to see you here! I've seen your cars and auctions on BaT, but never heard the story behind the GNX! $16.5k for a GNX is just mind-blowing these days! I was 17 when my old man took delivery of our GN, so I definitely appreciated the epic burnout. It's awesome to see these cars getting driven instead of just stuffed in a dark corner somewhere with 200 miles on them. Thanks for sharing the car with the world!
I love the show, All the cars that have been featured are unique in their own way, but from my own perspective, when the info or tips come on display, they tend to go away very quickly and in several ocassions the host is pointing out something unique about the car being appraised, at that point, you either read the tip or look at feature of the car, in several times I had to rewind it to get a chance to catch both.
Also, another thing that I dont like much but understand, is that in every episode, before the owner comes back, the host says the same line “I know the appraisal and I am going to call the owner”. I know it is going to happen because it has to happen, I think there is no need to explain it and show it at the same time in every appraisal (twice per episode), all the episodes.
Those are my two cents, I hope it helps, either way… great show, I still enjoy it very much and I will continue to watch it!
Gnx all the way......350r, whoopty doo. Limited edition mustang. The grand national and especially the GNX is an OG and always will be!
GNX anyday of the week!
Sorry randy , nice X but a #3 isn’t 150G but you can enjoy it .
Lol the Mustang guy looks like Bruce Meyer Jr!
Which one would I take? The GNX all day long, not even a thought about it.
what ?? this isnt even remote contest...
GT350 ALLDAY, everyday...
Of course the legendary GNX
Remembering back to the mid 90s home on leave completely smashed a friend I ran into told me he bought a gnX with some inheritance $. I didn't believe it was an actual X. So he took me to see it. It was legit can't remember the # think 236. He took me for a pretty intense cruise. Dropped me back off when he proceeded to to do a crazy burnout and launch where he lost control went over the curb hitting a guardrail and 🌳. The car was totaled 😔
The Buick guy was a jerk.
Why you say that??
Old sedan with a V6 auto vs an all-American, naturally-aspirated V8 with a manual. At first, I was shocked people would choose the Buick. On second thought, why even compare these two cars? What’s next? GMC Typhoon vs a Lamborghini?
I think the GNX owner knew what he was talking about...
Both are the coolest cars ever built.
GNX for me
Those are literally my two dream cars, how in the world both of them are here !!
I'd take the GNX, any day.
Me too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The GT350 R, hands down.
GNX
Shelby all day long
With out a doubt 👍😎
Yeah the GNX is a fun car, but not worth the $150K the owner thought, the Shelby is a $150k car all day. If the Shelby gets driven and modded it may be even more fun and faster, but that is not where the money is. I will stick with my old truck and I can rod it, I can hill climb, I can drive it in the snow and mud and it is still worth not much. LOL Thank God there are rich people that can cherish these cars.
Never close the hood of a Buick TR the way you did its easy to dimple the hood at the hinge pushing down on it. Just drop it. The car was enjoyed . Keep driving it that's what cars are built to do.
GNX hands down! That gt350 is involved In a class action lawsuit.. wayyyy too much going on under hood of gt350.. do a deep dive..
THE GNX RAN 13S BACK IN 87 AND THAT WAS REALLY FAST BACK THEN AND LOL MY STOCK 87 MUSTANG GT WHICH I STILL HAVE RAN LOW 14S AND BELIEVE OR NOT LOW 14S WAS FAST BACK IN 87.