Ferrari that isn't a Ferrari or real Shelby Cobra? 1969 Dino vs 1966 Cobra | The Appraiser - Ep.3
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- Опубліковано 20 січ 2022
- On this episode of The Appraiser, Colin Comer appraises a Ferrari-that-isn’t-a-Ferrari-but-is-a-Ferrari 246 GT "L-Series" Dino and a legit "Narrow Hip" 427 Shelby Cobra. The Dino was bought by it's owner not so long ago for a big price-is it still worth what he paid? The Cobra was bought a long time ago and the owner recently turned down a huge profit-was it the smartest move? As always Colin has the answer to both of these questions.
Watch along as Colin digs in to arrive at a value for both cars and shares them with us-and the owners. Will they agree? Will you? Sound off in the comments section and let us know!
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I'm really dig'n this new 'Appraiser' thing...
Thank you!
Me too keep em coming!
Same
The smile on the face at the end as the Cobra drives off shows a true enthusiast of the brand. Not many cars can illicit that type of response.
If I was a collector I would absolutely love to have just 2 cars in my collection, the Class winner at the 1964 24 hour of Lemans Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe driven by Bob Bondurant and Dave Gurney #5 and the Ferrari 250 GTO driven by Lucien Bianchi and Jean Blaton #24.
You are a man with exquisite taste...
give me John Kimberly's Pontoon Fender Testarossa or Phil Hill's GTO and one of the 63 Corvette Grandsport coupes with the original all aluminum 377 CUI and 4 58 mm side draft Webbers.
Hell I won't be greedy just give me ONE... a LOLA T70 MKIIIB.
@@TheJagjr4450 Boys, you and Richard Voss know your cars ! To these, i'd add only Dan Gurneys' Eagle !
@@marcryvon Another incredible machine. Gurney Westlake Eagles - shark nose Ferrari. OR 330 P4 Ferrari? There really are so many from which to choose when you look at the sheer number of great cars built in the period, I mean diamonds.
I told my parents that if time travel were to become a reality and I unexplainedly vanish without a trace, you will find me in the mid 50's to the early 70's in or in the proximity of sports car and road racing.
Get a factory five daytona coupe and make it partly come true. And not have to worry you are driving a million dollar car.
*elicit
He tells you about the car “through his eyes” in a way that doesn’t make him sound “up himself”. Good on you Mr Appraiser. 🤙🏼great work.
I'm absolutely loving the new show. I can't wait until next week!
After watching a few of these I have to admit, this could easily be a 30 minute television show and I'd watch enthusiastically. It is a bit of a shame that it's entirely geared around valuation (yes, I know, that's Hagerty's bag) when so much joy comes from driving and enjoying these cars. The final shot of this video with the Cobra owner speeding away in his $1.5 million dollar car said it well. If you're a potential buyer it's a nice first intro to the market though.
I heard something like $ 2.1 million when he would rebuild it into factory specs. 😉
Yup. Spend 75k for 2.1mil? Done!
A few years ago Bob gave my dad a ride in this Cobra because my dad passed up buying one in 1967. Bob drove it like a new Mustang and I think my dad is still smiling. Thanks Bob!
I remember seeing a 289 Cobra and a 427 sitting on the showroom floor at Koons Ford in Seven Corners Virginia back in the '60s. The 289 priced around $4,000, the 427 around $7,200. Both cars brand new...
There are obvious video production limitations, but without putting a car on a lift and inspecting the underside for condition and parts used, I'd consider the appraisal at least 25% incomplete. Regardless, this is a fun show to watch for sure. Looking forward to the next episode.
Hi, thanks for the comment, much appreciated. Yes, what you are seeing is a 6 minute condensed version of a 2 hour plus appraisal. It is indeed the limitations of show length but I assure you I do a full and proper appraisal to all of the cars. Thanks for watching! -Colin
@@colincomer4566 I figured you were pretty thorough! Love the show.
Liking this new series. Two of my all time favorite cars.
Great show and format. That Cobra is very special!
Yeah, without those goofy wide ankles. I hate those. The side pipes too.
This honestly was great. I have been going to auctions since I was a kid and now I am 60. I personally own a continuation Shelby Cobra (CSX 4000) model and a 69 Mach1. I own these cars because I enjoy them but also because I don't lose money on them. I will continue watching for sure.
I would offer, there is a niche for classic cars that are in driviable condition, especially when they are in the $100,000 + range. It's so nice to enjoy them without concern for the first ding or scratch. Pristine concourse cars are nice - but can't be enjoyed as cars should be...driven and enjoyed.
I discovered Colin through the pages of Road & Track.... now I can put the man into pixels!!! He knows his stuff...
I apologize for any discomfort the pixels may have caused! Lol. Thanks for the comment, and for watching!
This series is excellent. Please keep it going - I'm subbed !
God...it's on my bucket list to even RIDE in an actual Cobra, let alone drive or own one
Go for a replica, in the real sense they are better in every way and you don't have to be afraid to be millions in debt when something happens.
I'm still not sure which I'd pick between the two. Keep 'em coming, Colin! And more of the in-depth looks at cars, too!
The title of this is incomprehensible.
I’m loving these reviews. I’m learning a lot.
Love this format. What a great series.
This is live TV worthy.
That AC cobra guy looked like has gunna cry when he found out what that thing was appraised at.
Best thing about this, they both drive the cars. Have proper insurance and keep enjoying them guys!
So far the best episode
This is awesome. Could watch these all day long! Love that Dino. My dream car too.
The outcome very predictable, the car was expensive with minor details picked on.
gee, Colin Comer really knows his stuff. carry on, Sir! really enjoyed this new series!
Only 2 million? It's a good job he knocked the original owner down fifty bucks!😝
Literally clicked and typed cobra before watching. The cobra will always be the fine wine
Fun show! Put the cars on a lift next time for the appraisal. Bravo Hagerty!
GEEEEZZZ!!! I knew Cobras are very expensive these days, but wow!! I get that he has the original engine, and has owned it all these years. Amazing car and story. ....I had the chance to buy a '67 in the mid 70s with a blown engine for $2500. Yes, HUNDRED. I just didn't have the money as a kid to do the car and new engine. I also had at the time a '57 Austin Healey 100-6, my regular driver- a '64 Triumph TR4, a '67 TR4A, '61 TR3, and a horrible '68 Fiat 850Abarth. I didn't need another car that needed work. ....oh well...........
Great episode Colin...already looking forward to the next one !!!
Thanks! Me too ;)
They say beauty is the eye of the beholder. You don’t really choose what you see as beautiful... it chooses you.
That being said, I’ve never been able to understand the draw of a cobra over a Dino. They are really two different animals. The cobra is raw muscle... the Dino, sophisticated sex appeal. I guess that’s why I like the GT 40 so much. It put the two together.
Great commentary, beautiful cars
Great series of videos!
Melts the ears, heart and soul!!! That's a hell of a machine! How the hell has been able to own so long and not drive up the miles. Just amazing.
My two favorite cars of all time, awesome appraisal video.
Antiques Roadshow but for fly ass cars. Love it.
Very interesting 🤔 great video!
I'll add to the chorus of those people who would like to see the length of this video series increased to include more details of the cars being profiled, including the portion of the inspection conducted while the cars are up on a lift.
Two of the absolute most gorgeous cars ever produced.
A lot of those cobras were actually 428's cuz the 427 was in short supply. Ford had to replace a bunch of them when ppl complained.
Fascinating review. This guys knows his cars. Wow. As for this Dino, the owner enjoys loves and enjoys it. Hard to put a price on that.
I really enjoyed that.
Pretty cool like your style and I love the cars
427 AC Shelby Cobras and Ford GT40 Mk1 s have always been my two favorite vehicles, never could decide if I could only have one which one would it be
Awesome content
max props to that cobra dude
I just seen a Dino at my local DMV parking lot, same with yellow center caps.
Antique roadshow for cars
I am 54 and remember in my mid 20's the exotic car place up the road was flipping Dino's back then for 50k
I take the Ferrari Dino easy!! Gorgeous machine!
Wow, that Cobra price.
Definitely the Cobra but I am a bit biased. 😎
Me too but I'm smitten by Dinos as well...in a perfect world none of us would have to choose! Thanks for watching.
The Cobra guy is right, enjoy the car how he likes. The appraiser is right to, try finding another cobra with that providence, I would love to own it, beautiful. Totally correct car as is or standard, it’s genuine either way
You almost gave that cobra owner a heart attack 😅
I said it on the last video and I hope someone sees it. We need to know more about the cars on the lifts in the shop. Thank you for the content Haggerty.
Oh don't worry I see them all ;) Keep watching- lots more to come!
WOW!!!! Never thought was worth that much!!!!!!!
Dino no doubt. A professor drove one the year round in Winnipeg in the eighties. I’ve been hooked ever since but since then they’ve become loved. I think they look best in white.
Wow, that cobra 🐍. Gorgeous.
With respect to this Cobra, "Where are you gonna find another one?". Worth every penny but I wouldn't sell. I might redo my insurance though.
Wow. What a beautiful cobra
Thumbnail photos makes me wonder what a cobra with a ferrari v12 or a dino with a 427 big block would be like to drive......🤪😉😎👍
The Dino. For sure
I used to not like them but have seen them recently in Columbo and the Rockford files and they sure seemed co on those shows.
childhood dreams are by definition childish dreams
How awesome was that Cobra!
A Ferrari that isn't a Ferrari but IS a Ferrari.
This is a though choice for me. I've loved both cars since I was a child. I can't decide.
Edit: Dang, you said the same thing about the Dino in the description. lol
1976 "The Gumball Rally" 😉
Ac Cobra vs Ferrari Daytona spider
Cool👍👍
No side mirror on the Dino's driver door ??? my neighbor had a yellow Dino in his driveway back in 1972 ...it had a chrome side view mirror
I’ll take the cobra any day. At least it can still surprise newer cars. I wouldn’t pay 425k for a Dino. There’s just better Ferraris out there that will be better investments. Hagerty is doing a great job at growing this channel with new content you’d actually want to watch
Between this, Revelations with Jason Camisa, and the Redline videos, Hagerty gets a lot of my screen time.
to be fair, it isn't even a ferrari. Enzo NEVER called it a ferrari, it was never marketed or badged as one and only market speculators and salespeople called and call it ferrari to jack up the prices and resale values. The shelby has other issues, such as the continuation model actually made it drop in price by around 25% for a time, it did pick back up fairly quick, but that's the danger of "continuiation" series (same happened to AS db4 GT for instance). There's also the fact that true connoisseurs do not considered shelby badged versions to be the real thing, only the AC badged versions, though this is mainly in europe.
@@TheChill001 it was in the hands of Shelby that the Cobra became the legend that it is today. The AC cars are cool but I’d take a Shelby 427 cobra over an AC any day
@@TheChill001 "it isn't even a ferrari."
Who made the Dino then?
@@TheChill001 Were you able to find out what company made the Dino if it wasn't Ferrari?
Asking for a friend.
I could only imagine being that cobra owner, I’ve paid a whole lot less that $7,000 for a car that in no world ever would be close to 2 million dollars. That’s insane
this show should be called "Boomers discover Inflation"
Even though the Cobra has been modified from how Shelby built it, it encompasses what most people look to as the 427 features with the side pipes and hood scoop and maybe a serious collector would rather have it returned to how it was originally built the person looking to drive and enjoy it would not.
Back in the early 1980s I was offered a 74 for $9k. Broke at the time so had to pass. Who would have thought it would hit these kind of prices.
My grandpa was a car collector too, he ended up selling everything in the end because of doctors bills, just a heads up.
Ferrous oxide is rust. The magnet is measuring ferrous/iron/steel versus non-ferrous material, which could be anything. The device can also measure the thickness of paint/body filler over a steel substrate, that is the "lie detector" origin of the name.
that Dino is in my town at Hagerty 😏
Actually this one lives near Sheboygan WI…kinda close to a little 4 mile long race track that opened in 1955 😁
@@colincomer4566 there’s this exact car in my town just for showing, it’s only here for a bit
Cool narrow hip street car. Shame about the pipes and scoop, but still.
I love the Ferrari Dino 246.
Got dam i wanna be that guy with a 427 cobra wearing a shelby shirt riding in the greatest american sportscar ever built. But instead i wear chuck taylors and drive a focus. Any tips?
Woah I love cars with a passion but to look at these drivers cars as investments takes the fun away. Amazing cars though
Def like the Cobra better. It seems timeless to me. It's modern and classic at the same time. Maybe it's the lines over the rear wheels?
Interesting. Except, we are out of debt with coordinated extraction mirroring (investing), (coordinated foraging) using advanced investing tools.
The cool thing about that Cobra is that it's worth that much precisely due to its owner.
Because he bought it so cheap and took such good care of it for decades, he created a long but simple ownership history.
He should restore it to its factory condition and sell it for those two million dollars while he still can instead of being greedy and keeping it in the hopes it appreciates.
It's his and he should do whatever he likes.
Cobra
2 mil!!!!! Crazy! id have a rusted out dino any day over that blue thing. Usually driven by old guys with too many gold chains. Id go the class over the brass and have enough left over for a few more cars. Sorry to the USA muscle car lovers.
Nice murai
Back in the early 80s I almost bought a Dino, then my wife came home and told me she was with Child.... (no where to put a child seat lol) the cost was 15000 dollars.....
The owner of the Dino sure paid a lot 8 years ago. But he bought it for love. And he drives it. Major point here. He DRIVES it.
As Jay always says, those are cars, Cars were made to be driven, not becoming trailor queens, owned by doctors or lawyers as investments on over restored cars, absolutely not as they came brand new.
I deeply hate those rich guys pushing the prices out of reach for real car guys.
I'd take the Dino any day of the week. Cobra is too powerful for winding backroad driving.
Since the Dino was so beloved 😏... Now adored with design and styling praise..
While the Cobra was always .. will a Cobra.. and always will be.. from the first Bristol body to AC, too full Racer..
I sense Dino's as a Kid...
But I remember when my uncle RIP said kiddo, that's a Cobra..
Fe is iron (Ferrite), Fe02 is iron oxide I believe.
oooof hard choice but I'd have to choose the cobra
I wonder how much insurance costs on a $2M car?
Which of these 2 amazing cars do I love the best? simple when I get up in the morning n I see the Cobra i's what I love the most when I get up in the morning n I see the Dino it's the one I love the most, who can choose between the Best looking muscle car ever made n one of the most beautiful Ferraris ever made Not me sir I will be over the moon with either of them, on second thought I'll take a little Lotus Elan
I really want a replica Shelby
Two incredibly cool cars, but I have to say, with those prices a bit of a shame. As they allude to in the video, intimidating just to drive a vehicle that can lose 6 figures in value if there's an accident.
The message in this is - keep your car original.
I wonder how much an original AC cobra is worth. I mean a 1960s non shelby cobra worth? ie not a replica
it had a Center oiler?
Yes, the earlier street cars did.
Less expensive 427 than the side oiler and many later street versions had 428's because at the time 427's were in short supply.
15 years ago that Dino was a $70,000 car.
Actually in 2007 I sold a nice 246 Dino for $200k. They were $70k circa 2002 however. Hard to think that is 20 years ago- time flies!
@@colincomer4566 Yes, 200k 7 years ago sounds about right but 15 years ago was 2007 and a concours Dino went for about 130k. This car would have been sub 100k to be sure.
Wow. The Dino a condition 3? 🤔