. . . This is their portrayal of Hades? Hades was one of the few gods only concerned with doing his damned job! One of the few Greek Gods with an ounce of nobility to him!
They didn't want people to say they copied Disney (the original design was slimer until someone pointed out the similarities) so they made him fat. (This was said in the dvd commentary by the director herself)
Apollo was just as much an asshole as the rest of the Olympians. Here are some of his notable crimes: 1) Chasing women to the point of one asking to be turned into a tree just to get away from him. 2) Slaughtering a woman's children simply because she had a bunch of them and was proud of it. 3) Giving Midas donkey ears simply because he thought Pan was a better musician; and subsequently turning Pan into a footstool because he's a sore loser. 4) Killing the only man his sister ever loved out of petty jealousy. Granted, Apollo's not nearly as infamous as some of the other gods, but he was an utter scumbag in his own right. Hephaestus was actually pretty decent, and Hermes may have been mischievous, but he left mortals alone for the most part.
***** I give Hephaestus the benefit of the doubt because there's no recorded story of him ever hurting mortals for his own sick amusement. Aphrodite did that a lot, and Ares was the closest thing the Greek pantheon had to a "god of evil".
I wouldn't say that. Several of their misdeeds had little, if anything, to do with their specific areas of power. Zeus, for example, is also the god of justice, but he's a corrupt, adulterous rapist; Poseidon is a pedophile; Athena threw a temper tantrum simply because a mortal was better at knitting than her; Hera vented her marital frustration on her husband's victims; and the Trojan War was kicked off because Zeus was too cowardly to be the judge of a simple beauty contest, which was only held because the instigator wasn't invited to a wedding. Looking back, there are a couple more gods who weren't too bad: 1) Dionysus - His only notable action against mortals was when he turned the crew of a pirate ship into dolphins for abducting him while in a human disguise (except for one, who recognized him and treated him respectfully). Not exactly a nice thing, but not brutal, either. Aside from that, he rescued Ariadne from that island Theseus unknowingly marooned her on, made her a goddess, married her, and was faithful to her. 2) Helios - Slaughtered Odysseus's remaining crew, but they stole and ate many of his cattle, despite countless warnings against doing so. He was even pretty mello about Hercules (I think) shooting an arrow at him. His only other notable act was when he, against his better judgment, let his son take his chariot for a ride. It quickly got out of control, and despite Helios' protests, Zeus slaughtered the boy. 3) Eros - Not much of a prick himself, but his mother kept him under her thumb by paddling his ass on a daily basis and forcing him to shoot love arrows even when he didn't want to. 4) Amphitrite - Unlike Hera, she didn't torment her husband's victims and bastard children, likely because she was never all that interested in marrying Poseidon in the first place.
I love the hilarious irony. Hades baits him into talking shit about his father, even saying "I can't believe he'd put politics above his own son", just to deliberately drag in his son and force him to make a hypocrite of himself, forced to choke down his anger and let Hades have his way, or else abandon everything he was hoping to achieve.
The mischievous smile on Uncle Hades tells me that he knew all along that Ares was gonna die and he will join his tormented son as Hades's slaves. WHAT A FAMILY! 😁😁😁
Problem is that Hades isn't supposed to be a douche. He's basically true neutral on the D&D morality chart: He doesn't seek revenge, he doesn't double-cross, he doesn't make deals, and he's not cruel to others. The reason why is because given the passage of time, death will always win. Those whom he likes will be rewarded with blissful eternity in the Elysian Fields, while those he doesn't like will be punished with endless torment in Tartarus.
Furious Sherman Hades leans more toward Lawful Neutral rather than True Neutral, being such a stickler for the rules (especially regarding proper burial procedures++ and not resurrecting the dead) with only a few occasional exceptions if he deems them sufficiently reasonable. But other than that I’d have to agree. ++So much so that, in one of the many different versions of the story of Sisyphus, Hades was willing to let a guy WHO HAD JUST KIDNAPPED HIM AND HELD HIM PRISONER FOR A FULL FREAKIN’ MONTH return to the realm of the living for a couple of days so that said kidnapper could avenge the desecration of his corpse and arrange a proper funeral. Granted, the whole corpse desecration had been pre-arranged on the kidnapper’s part so that he could flee the scene as soon as he was back among the living, but Hades still got back at the little bastard in the end, either by having Hermes drag him back by force of just waiting patiently for the guy to eventually die of natural causes.
@@furioussherman7265 incorrect he doesn't decide who goes where the judges of the underworld decide how goes to one of three after lives none of which are Tartarus
brdynali meh, kinda but not in the least bit accurate, from what ive read on hades he was never portrayed as glutenous but more of just a busy asshole. There are a number of greek gods to whom this character design would suit, just not hades.
CLeach13 Dunno... perhaps with all the time that passed from antiquity hades grew bored with all of it. Also consider after thousands of years of death (Some massive such as The Black Death and the dropping of 2 Nukes) He must be FLOODED with servants to take care of EVERYTHING. I must imagine he has plenty of free time, and as such has gotten fat and lazy. Plus as a God he may be able to directly draw on the energy of all that death to create a more formidable form when he wants.
I think I know why Hades looks like Bacchus: it's Summer (or possibly Spring), and since Persephone is back on Olympus with her mother, he gets lonely, so he overeats to relieve stress. When Fall comes, he starts getting back into shape, so that by the time she returns at the start of Winter, he looks more presentable.
Hamster Lord I know. What's your point? Many films about Greek myths use Roman names Abe characteristics. Hercules is Roman, but it's the name everyone uses.
Ares may be a destructive and ruthless warmongering god, but no one can say that he does not love his children. I am pretty sure he would have killed Hades for what he did to his son if he managed to defeat Wonder Woman.
That's not how Hades is generally depicted. However, as god of the Underworld, Hades/Pluto was also associated with wealth. The cornucopia is an attribute of Hades. So this appearance is not that bad afterall.
And the award for most overprotective father goes to... Not Zeus or Poseidon, but *ARES* FUCKING GOD OF WAR, DESTRUCTION, BLOODSHED, and even more BLOODSHED!
Hm.. the point is though that Ares doesn't protect his son. It makes the scene so ironic when he says "that a father would treat his son ins such a way [meaning putting politics before his son].." and does exactly the same thing 5 seconds later when Hades asks him if there is sth wrong, but of course Ares doesn't say anything cause he needs Hades' help
+Sapphire Lamb if you are talking abour perception then there is no evil in this or any world but since we are not talking about perception , he is indeed evil
This has to be one of the more interesting interpretations of Hades I have seen.. I was immediately drawn to it to the point where I had to rewatch this scene multiple times. While of course he is not a canonical Hades, neither is really any of the gods in the DCU very similar to their intended roles in the Greek pantheon. What we have here is a Hades who probably feels forgotten, left alone in the underworld to oversee the refuse of the mortal world as his two brothers cover themselves in glories and riches. He probably loathes them both, loathes them as much as he loathes most things.. and seeks any means possible to sting them. Torturing mortal or demi-god souls does after all grow tiresome after a while, and here he is given the opportunity to not only see the dismay in Ares' eyes upon noting the fate of his son... intentionally causing this confrontation with all the malicious glee evident in those expressions and the snarky tone.. but he can also deliver unto his own brother Zeus a barbed sting to his pride and to his heart... All he has to do is offer a fool the chance to damn himself after all, an act of Mercy to a long bondaged nephew with such a tragic result... Oh this mountain of flesh and intrigue probably adores it... and I adore him for this.. what a wonderful antagonist.
But Hades kingdom was one of the richest. His palace was rival only by Olympus itself, he also had Elysium which was the greek heaven so he didn't spend time tourturing people. He also had Persephone his beloved wife who loved him and his kingdom. He also was seen as an equal to the other main olympians cause why disrespect the guy who has thanatos who is literally death as a friend.
Finally someone who gets it yeah it sucks that The only redeemable olympian is always depicted as evil in The media due to atheastic similarties with satan but that doesn't make him any less a fun villain when they do it
This is just ridiculous. Hades isn't some fat idiot who wants a legion of undead slaves. He's got anger management issues and he's a bit depressed, but he's also content with his job and is probably the most sensible of the Greek Gods. He doesn't seek revenge or double-cross others, he knows that the due passage of time will always have its way and that sooner or later, anyone he doesn't like will end up on his turf. He also doesn't make deals or show outward cruelty.
I’m pretty sure I remember hades hating war since it was so straining for the underworld to deal with and having to do a lot of work with Thanatos do deal with it all
This depiction of Hades is more Dionysian I think but I guess they wanted to cater to the whole "Hades is evil/wicked" idea. Not indicative of the mythological Hades though.
Yeah I though this WAS Dionysus at first. I've never seen the lord of the underworld or any of his variations portrayed like this. Not even in Christian iconography was Satan portrayed as a glutton and sloth is one of the deadly sins. It's kinda bizarre.
It's been discussed in this comment section already but Hades usually gets a bad reputation, although this is taking it a bit far. Artistic liberty is one thing but Hades was never really so self-indulgent. He's one of the more well-behaved gods.
Ma Az i agree Hades, unlike his two brothers was never a sexual deviant, adulterer, or deadbeat dad. Although you could say he is envious, scornful, and can be accused of kidnapping. However pure evil and corrupt is a tad extreme, I would say more melancholy and vengeful.
CountKibblesNBits He is certainly not perfect but I wouldn't expect him to be. Despite being the oldest of the Olympians he has a pretty lonely existence. Confronting the solemnity of death on a daily basis would probably make most people melancholy as well. The kidnapping is one of his worst offenses, but at least he seems to have treated her well, wasn't abusive, and was faithful which is admirable considering the general behavior of his fellow gods.
Ma Az I agree, but i feel I must explain my reasoning behind judging him as vengeful. He was the eldest brother out of all of the original olympian gods, and as the eldest should have rightfully gotten the best kingdom the earth and the heavens. You can say that even though Hades agreed to the lottery, he could have still felt scornful towards zeus out of jealousy.
***** I think you got your greek mythology mixed up. Dionysus is the god of wine, party, madness, nature, and fertility. Also Hades is not the god of death for that title belongs to Thanatos. Hades is the god of the underworld. BIG DIFFERENCE.
+Plasm Spasm Dionysus is the God of excess. There are several tales and in most, they point to Hades tricking Persephone into staying with him. Ultimately, it had nothing to do with wine. Pomegranates. That's how it happened.
panda hat WTF are you talking about? Ducks will fuck anything. Male ducks, female duck, dead ducks. Yeah, ducks are necrophiliacs. Zeus also never mated for life. He went around fucking random women and leaving them knocked up with his kids. He may have been married to Hera, but he spent more time raping human women and finding ways to torture Hera's offspring than he did with Hera. The DC and Disney versions of Greek Mythology are 100% inaccurate.
Why does Aries look like a taller, more chiseled David Icke when he was in his prime? Why does this version of hades look like a Suave Jabba the Hutt instead of the curly haired semi satan of Justice League? Why does David Icke's Armor later look like a Japanese Samurai Oni?
I wish Hades was a bit more well shaped at least with an armor and a hood covering his face with shadow and omly seeing his red shinny eyes, but I like how Ares cares for his son. So far I know, Ares is not always the warmonger that his title represents. Yes, he does have family problems with Zeus and Athena. And also he does not like to socialize with the other gods, even with his own family. Heck, the only friends he has are 3 dark gods, one known as Eris, Goddes of Discord. But remember, Ares only has a very strong connection with only one Olympian and that his Aphrodite, Goddes of Love and his very own lover, maybe the only one who can have big chat with the God of War and even had a baby with him (I can remember the name) and I believe he is a loving warmonger father. So I do love how they showed sadness how his uncle treated his mortal son. What you think?
Funny thing. In this movie, Ares' "girlfriend" is Persephone. I guess that, later, Hades took a little "bonus" from Ares' debt. Well, Hades designe is kinda disappointing, but once you watch the movie... Dang! He is evil!
Later that same day Athena appeared to a mortal; "We have one final task of you, Kratos. Your greatest challenge awaits in Athens; where even now, my brother: Ares, lays siege, as we speak. Athens is on the verge of destruction. It is the will of Ares my great city fall. Zeus has forbidden the gods from waging war on each other. That is why it must be you, Kratos. Only a mortal trained by a god has a chance at defeating Ares. Complete this final task, and the past that consumes you will be forgiven. Have faith, Kratos, the gods do not forget those who come to their aid."
This depiction of hades really isn’t that bad. He’s also the god of wealth, which could be considered “greed” or “gluttony”. This version wasn’t an evil villain, he just relished in the lavish luxury of ruling the underworld
You are a little fool, Ares. Did you really think you could bribe the god of the underworld with a thousand servants? Hades doesn't need servants, nor does he need war to get more. He already has more servants than he knows what to do with. The dead come to him everyday. All you were promising to do was to give Hades more work.
I felt so sorry for Thrax in this movie, murdered by his own mother who never gives a fuck about him, tortured by his granduncle for a millenia and left to rotten by his father, poor boy.
He deserved it, he's the product of a rape and had no redeeming qualities which is why his mother had no love for him, not to mention he was killed as he was killing countless Amazons that were his mother's sisters
7463649pH Well being a product of a rape is not his fault in any way, also in barely two quick scenes, one of them fighting and other as slave we can't see if he had redeeming qualities or not, and Hipolita was not the best judge in this film since she has an irrational hate towards men and specially all related to Ares, Amazons were also killing and we can't say that they deserved a eternity of slavery in the Hades for that.
+xCoatlicuex I agree it wasn't his fault but I explained that was one of the reasons his mother had no love for him. Obviously it's not for us to judge what goes on. As an audience, it our job to be entertained and try to relate to the characters and the dynamic. This movie does not sympathize with Ares or his son because they are evil by nature, it's just who they are. I was merely trying to tell you why she ruthlessly killed her son according to the movie. You can't really say she has an irrational hate for men either, she interrogated Steve with the lasso loosely on his neck and after determining he was no threat to her people, she let him go back in peace with Diana to escort him back home safely. As for Ares, well, he's the God of WAR. Would you trust him or anyone that wants to let him loose?
7463649pH Well, more or less my point, the movie doesn't present the amazons as characters totally good, they are actually flawless and the irrational hate is one of their flaws, yes Hypolita doesn't kill Steve, but he is attacked incarcerated, judged, menaced, just because he is a men, only after great deliberation she decides send an ambassador to judge if the world is worthy to being in contact with the amazons, (even Diana who is one of the most open amazon perceive courtesy and jokes as attacks) amazons are, proud, aggressive and mock those who prefer the study over the fight (like Alexa), and are eager to fight and kill, being honest without all the gifts of the gods (power, youth, magic) they will be a barbaric civilization who has any development in the last thousands of years. About Ares, well in this movie (and DC universe in general) he is a villain, but actually in greek mythology he was father and protector to the amazons.
+xCoatlicuex No they aren't presented as purely 'good' but that's what makes the DC Comics great (in my opinion). They produce characters that are relatable. No one is perfect. Everyone reacts to situations differently and you can't judge unless you have been in that situation- for movies, all you can do is try and enjoy, for real life, all you can do is learn from the mistakes made. As for Ares, there are many different fables and stories in Greek mythology (some good, some bad) but we are talking about how he was depicted in this movie.
"I will wage WAR and countless humans will die!" "Buddy, I'm an eternal representation of death. Everyone goes to me in time. Really not offering me anything that I won't get anyway."
@@azazel166 Well, not in DC he's not. In DC "Thanatos" is some weird extradimensional clone of Aquaman who basically only shows up to get killed and start a war. Nothing to do with the Greek pantheon you're "um actually"ing for.
This was one of the best scenes in the movie and I really whish the movie would have spent more time on the gods and the amazons instead of Diana's godawful fucking dumb love interest I already forgot the name of. Also Im glad Hades is fat, its a different design from the macho muscle body type every other DC character has and I am glad for every break of repetition we get with superhero movies
+JoinTheHabbit I think the whole fat body suits hades, at least when he doesn't need to do stuff. Imagine how many slaves he'd have by now, chances are he hasn't move from that seat in centuries.
Why are people getting mad at DC Hades not looking like Hades of the actual Greek myths? Besides, he's a god; he can look whatever he wants. Maybe he was feeling a bit decadent.
Hades is actually is a tough, and terrfying God. Mortals feared him, but respected him for he always acted with justice and honor. he is the oldest of 3 brothers, and perhaps the most dangerous one. a battle between Olympus and Underworld is the kind of war you cant be sure who to bet on. yet, even tho Hades knew he was cheated to rule Underworld and angry to his brothers because he cared about balance more than his pride he let go of the past and accepted his responsibilities with full seriousity. only known crime of his is the kidnaping of Persaphone. even tho some say he raped her there is nothing written about it according to original mythology. after a few fears Persaphone actually fell in love with Hades, for he was always caring and kind to her. This is not Hades. this is jabba the Hut.
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. . . This is their portrayal of Hades? Hades was one of the few gods only concerned with doing his damned job! One of the few Greek Gods with an ounce of nobility to him!
That's Hades Lord of the Damned?
He looks more like Jabba the Hutt
They didn't want people to say they copied Disney (the original design was slimer until someone pointed out the similarities) so they made him fat. (This was said in the dvd commentary by the director herself)
Apollo was just as much an asshole as the rest of the Olympians. Here are some of his notable crimes:
1) Chasing women to the point of one asking to be turned into a tree just to get away from him.
2) Slaughtering a woman's children simply because she had a bunch of them and was proud of it.
3) Giving Midas donkey ears simply because he thought Pan was a better musician; and subsequently turning Pan into a footstool because he's a sore loser.
4) Killing the only man his sister ever loved out of petty jealousy.
Granted, Apollo's not nearly as infamous as some of the other gods, but he was an utter scumbag in his own right. Hephaestus was actually pretty decent, and Hermes may have been mischievous, but he left mortals alone for the most part.
***** I give Hephaestus the benefit of the doubt because there's no recorded story of him ever hurting mortals for his own sick amusement. Aphrodite did that a lot, and Ares was the closest thing the Greek pantheon had to a "god of evil".
I wouldn't say that. Several of their misdeeds had little, if anything, to do with their specific areas of power. Zeus, for example, is also the god of justice, but he's a corrupt, adulterous rapist; Poseidon is a pedophile; Athena threw a temper tantrum simply because a mortal was better at knitting than her; Hera vented her marital frustration on her husband's victims; and the Trojan War was kicked off because Zeus was too cowardly to be the judge of a simple beauty contest, which was only held because the instigator wasn't invited to a wedding.
Looking back, there are a couple more gods who weren't too bad:
1) Dionysus - His only notable action against mortals was when he turned the crew of a pirate ship into dolphins for abducting him while in a human disguise (except for one, who recognized him and treated him respectfully). Not exactly a nice thing, but not brutal, either. Aside from that, he rescued Ariadne from that island Theseus unknowingly marooned her on, made her a goddess, married her, and was faithful to her.
2) Helios - Slaughtered Odysseus's remaining crew, but they stole and ate many of his cattle, despite countless warnings against doing so. He was even pretty mello about Hercules (I think) shooting an arrow at him. His only other notable act was when he, against his better judgment, let his son take his chariot for a ride. It quickly got out of control, and despite Helios' protests, Zeus slaughtered the boy.
3) Eros - Not much of a prick himself, but his mother kept him under her thumb by paddling his ass on a daily basis and forcing him to shoot love arrows even when he didn't want to.
4) Amphitrite - Unlike Hera, she didn't torment her husband's victims and bastard children, likely because she was never all that interested in marrying Poseidon in the first place.
The voice acting here was pretty damn good.
I love the hilarious irony. Hades baits him into talking shit about his father, even saying "I can't believe he'd put politics above his own son", just to deliberately drag in his son and force him to make a hypocrite of himself, forced to choke down his anger and let Hades have his way, or else abandon everything he was hoping to achieve.
What was even more cruel was Hades having both Father & Son as his slaves. I was hoping the last Wonder Woman movie would capitalize on that
He wanted to help his son but he had no choice but do nothing as he was in his uncle's realm where he reigned supreme even Zeus can not do a thing
Beautiful writing
He knew what he was doing
Does Hades just sit on that couch all day everyday for eternity?
Throw in some WiFi and you can sign me up as the new god of the underworld!
The mischievous smile on Uncle Hades tells me that he knew all along that Ares was gonna die and he will join his tormented son as Hades's slaves.
WHAT A FAMILY! 😁😁😁
What Delicious irony to see the God of War becoming hades's slave.
Hades: now bring me Solo and the Wookie!
Ares: I'm sorry, what?
oh, ho ho ho
Victor M gave me damn good chuckle.
Victor M *Salacious Crumb laugh*
Jabba the hutts body was made by using the shape of hades body
I can imagine that his relationship with persephone would be exactly like the one between jabba and leia ....yikes
Fun fact Ares is voiced by Doctor Octopus from Spiderman 2.
GeneralKenobi75 Alfred Molina!
ThePizzadude93 Exactly.
While Hades is voiced by Oliver Platt (Carl Anheuser from 2012)
It’s definitely dr octavius
I don't really like Hades' design, but I must admit his attitude is...entertainingly douchie.
Problem is that Hades isn't supposed to be a douche. He's basically true neutral on the D&D morality chart: He doesn't seek revenge, he doesn't double-cross, he doesn't make deals, and he's not cruel to others. The reason why is because given the passage of time, death will always win. Those whom he likes will be rewarded with blissful eternity in the Elysian Fields, while those he doesn't like will be punished with endless torment in Tartarus.
Furious Sherman Hades leans more toward Lawful Neutral rather than True Neutral, being such a stickler for the rules (especially regarding proper burial procedures++ and not resurrecting the dead) with only a few occasional exceptions if he deems them sufficiently reasonable. But other than that I’d have to agree.
++So much so that, in one of the many different versions of the story of Sisyphus, Hades was willing to let a guy WHO HAD JUST KIDNAPPED HIM AND HELD HIM PRISONER FOR A FULL FREAKIN’ MONTH return to the realm of the living for a couple of days so that said kidnapper could avenge the desecration of his corpse and arrange a proper funeral. Granted, the whole corpse desecration had been pre-arranged on the kidnapper’s part so that he could flee the scene as soon as he was back among the living, but Hades still got back at the little bastard in the end, either by having Hermes drag him back by force of just waiting patiently for the guy to eventually die of natural causes.
@@furioussherman7265 incorrect he doesn't decide who goes where the judges of the underworld decide how goes to one of three after lives none of which are Tartarus
I actually thought it was pretty clever. god of the underworld getting fat off the death of humanity.
Attitude..hint?
DC-comics, you do realize you just replaced Hades with Dionysos?
brdynali
meh, kinda but not in the least bit accurate, from what ive read on hades he was never portrayed as glutenous but more of just a busy asshole. There are a number of greek gods to whom this character design would suit, just not hades.
CLeach13 Dunno... perhaps with all the time that passed from antiquity hades grew bored with all of it. Also consider after thousands of years of death (Some massive such as The Black Death and the dropping of 2 Nukes) He must be FLOODED with servants to take care of EVERYTHING. I must imagine he has plenty of free time, and as such has gotten fat and lazy. Plus as a God he may be able to directly draw on the energy of all that death to create a more formidable form when he wants.
They know, but when is DC ever going to be able to use Dionysos?
vincentx915 new years eve, I imagine.
RequiemPoete No I don't think he really does. I mean he rules the freaking underworld that would take up a lot of time.
I think I know why Hades looks like Bacchus: it's Summer (or possibly Spring), and since Persephone is back on Olympus with her mother, he gets lonely, so he overeats to relieve stress. When Fall comes, he starts getting back into shape, so that by the time she returns at the start of Winter, he looks more presentable.
Jackson Rushing
there are two portrayals of hades in DC universe
The DORUK Okay. What does that have to do with what I'm saying?
Jackson Rushing
I meant the hades indeed had two different appearances
Bacchus is the roman version of Dionysus. Hades is greek.
Hamster Lord I know. What's your point? Many films about Greek myths use Roman names Abe characteristics. Hercules is Roman, but it's the name everyone uses.
That's a terrible Hades. He looks more like Dionysus.
Dionysus wears a crown of grapes.
Ares may be a destructive and ruthless warmongering god, but no one can say that he does not love his children. I am pretty sure he would have killed Hades for what he did to his son if he managed to defeat Wonder Woman.
EmptyMan000 Ares would kill Ares for what Ares did to Ares's son? Well yeah I suppose....HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
rayleigh8 Sorry, I meant Hades. Though my point remains firm. Ares cares about his kids no matter what and disdains child abandonment.
Ares stands no chance against Hades.Hades is near as strong as Zeus, but when angry he puts you down quicker.
FUKU TORA Hades is actually stronger.
Everyone love their Child but that does not mean every father is compassionate.
this is just not hades, this is Dionysius
To be fair a god can appear in any form of their choice and technically he looks like Bacchus the roman answer to Dionysius
Dr Manhattan and Silver Surfer: The Matter Bosses well it's probably the summer, maybe he misses Persephone and is eating his sorrows
Why did they decide to make Hades look like a male version of Ursula?
He's a god he can appear how ever he chooses and he looks more like Bacchus the roman God of wine and debatchere
Seeing this clip again I think they were painting him as decadent and lazy. Which is odd because the mythical version is far, far different.
Frieza: Good lord! I was led to believe your species survived entirely on ambrosia and nectar! How is he so fat!?
That's not how Hades is generally depicted. However, as god of the Underworld, Hades/Pluto was also associated with wealth. The cornucopia is an attribute of Hades. So this appearance is not that bad afterall.
I've alawys wondered how would ursula from "The little mermaid" would look like if she was a human male.
No he's not that ugly
He's not that pretty either...
her design was based on a drag queen so im not sure her look would change.
Hades realy let himself go throught the millenniums
*millenia
well with no one worshiping him what else he to do
Oliver Platt deliver such an beautiful and chilly voice-over on Hades.
And the award for most overprotective father goes to... Not Zeus or Poseidon, but *ARES* FUCKING GOD OF WAR, DESTRUCTION, BLOODSHED, and even more BLOODSHED!
+Luke Fox (BAT-WING) I think it shows that there is some good in evil hearts.
Hm.. the point is though that Ares doesn't protect his son. It makes the scene so ironic when he says "that a father would treat his son ins such a way [meaning putting politics before his son].." and does exactly the same thing 5 seconds later when Hades asks him if there is sth wrong, but of course Ares doesn't say anything cause he needs Hades' help
+Fanguy YT Who says that he's 'evil'? It's merely a matter of perception....As for Hades....at first I thought it was Dionysus.
+Sapphire Lamb if you are talking abour perception then there is no evil in this or any world
but since we are not talking about perception , he is indeed evil
It's true, he is known for being overprotective of his kids. In the myth, he killed a son of Poseidon for raping his daughter
I hate this version of Hades.
@TheSapphireDragon1 LMAO
Jokester6293 cuz he’s not tall dark and handsome?
I prefer the JLU Hades. Tall, tough, imposing, devilish charm
Kyle Gmerek yes much better
He looks like a Dionyus.
This has to be one of the more interesting interpretations of Hades I have seen.. I was immediately drawn to it to the point where I had to rewatch this scene multiple times.
While of course he is not a canonical Hades, neither is really any of the gods in the DCU very similar to their intended roles in the Greek pantheon.
What we have here is a Hades who probably feels forgotten, left alone in the underworld to oversee the refuse of the mortal world as his two brothers cover themselves in glories and riches. He probably loathes them both, loathes them as much as he loathes most things.. and seeks any means possible to sting them.
Torturing mortal or demi-god souls does after all grow tiresome after a while, and here he is given the opportunity to not only see the dismay in Ares' eyes upon noting the fate of his son... intentionally causing this confrontation with all the malicious glee evident in those expressions and the snarky tone.. but he can also deliver unto his own brother Zeus a barbed sting to his pride and to his heart...
All he has to do is offer a fool the chance to damn himself after all, an act of Mercy to a long bondaged nephew with such a tragic result...
Oh this mountain of flesh and intrigue probably adores it... and I adore him for this.. what a wonderful antagonist.
Niklas Reuter Gerdrup the fuck is wrong with you?
f***ing awesome explanation. It really does make sense.
It's still not an excuse because the version of Hades from actual Greek mythology is even better character-wise.
But Hades kingdom was one of the richest. His palace was rival only by Olympus itself, he also had Elysium which was the greek heaven so he didn't spend time tourturing people. He also had Persephone his beloved wife who loved him and his kingdom. He also was seen as an equal to the other main olympians cause why disrespect the guy who has thanatos who is literally death as a friend.
Finally someone who gets it yeah it sucks that The only redeemable olympian is always depicted as evil in The media due to atheastic similarties with satan but that doesn't make him any less a fun villain when they do it
Why did Bacchus become Hades?
+Santiago Alvarez my thoughts exactly. The original animated one was way better
Bacchus is the roman version of Dionysus. Hades is greek.
Hamster Lord with Pluto his roman form
playing smite too much
Dionysus* and my thoughts exactly
I liked hades from the justice league cartoon a whole lot more
same
+Tman4312 He was awesome
agreed. much better than this Jabba the Hutt lookalike
Why is Hades fat??
1JackOFBlades1 What movie was that?
It would make more sense for that to be Dionysus rather than Hades
Why would Dionysius be ruling the underworld? On a second note the Greeks didn't depict Dionysius as being fat that was the Romans
this is supposed to be the elder and wiser greek god of the underworld? I know hades had a bad rep but this is just insulting.
Baccus ? Jabba the Hutt ? No wait, this is Hades! Damm....
Looks like Hades had a few too many big macs and chicken mcnuggets.
This when Hades meets World of Warcraft.
Hades looks more like Dionysus here......
This is just ridiculous. Hades isn't some fat idiot who wants a legion of undead slaves. He's got anger management issues and he's a bit depressed, but he's also content with his job and is probably the most sensible of the Greek Gods. He doesn't seek revenge or double-cross others, he knows that the due passage of time will always have its way and that sooner or later, anyone he doesn't like will end up on his turf. He also doesn't make deals or show outward cruelty.
I’m pretty sure I remember hades hating war since it was so straining for the underworld to deal with and having to do a lot of work with Thanatos do deal with it all
Interesting depiction, but the one in the animated show felt more fitting...
but godamn that was that cruel
This depiction of Hades is more Dionysian I think but I guess they wanted to cater to the whole "Hades is evil/wicked" idea. Not indicative of the mythological Hades though.
Yeah I though this WAS Dionysus at first. I've never seen the lord of the underworld or any of his variations portrayed like this. Not even in Christian iconography was Satan portrayed as a glutton and sloth is one of the deadly sins. It's kinda bizarre.
It's been discussed in this comment section already but Hades usually gets a bad reputation, although this is taking it a bit far. Artistic liberty is one thing but Hades was never really so self-indulgent. He's one of the more well-behaved gods.
Ma Az i agree Hades, unlike his two brothers was never a sexual deviant, adulterer, or deadbeat dad. Although you could say he is envious, scornful, and can be accused of kidnapping. However pure evil and corrupt is a tad extreme, I would say more melancholy and vengeful.
CountKibblesNBits He is certainly not perfect but I wouldn't expect him to be. Despite being the oldest of the Olympians he has a pretty lonely existence. Confronting the solemnity of death on a daily basis would probably make most people melancholy as well. The kidnapping is one of his worst offenses, but at least he seems to have treated her well, wasn't abusive, and was faithful which is admirable considering the general behavior of his fellow gods.
Ma Az I agree, but i feel I must explain my reasoning behind judging him as vengeful. He was the eldest brother out of all of the original olympian gods, and as the eldest should have rightfully gotten the best kingdom the earth and the heavens. You can say that even though Hades agreed to the lottery, he could have still felt scornful towards zeus out of jealousy.
What's Dionysus doing? Does Hades know that load is sitting in his throne?
that wasn't hades that was Bachaus god of fine wine and luxury
I actually feel bad for Ares. Like he's not even the total bad guy.
So what is he then??
War, huh, yeah
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
Nuanced.
Man Hades really let himself go
Other than his appearance (so much more like Bacchus), I like this deal-driven incarnation of Hades.
He looks more like Dionysus than Hades.
Moreira 99 yeah he even has the slave bring him grapes and Dionysus god of wine and what do you know the "grape" vine
why is hades acting like dionysus?
*****
then the title of the video is wrong.
and ares is also wrong when he implies that the dead will serve him. the dead serve hades.
+Plasm Spasm They are not the same god
***** I think you got your greek mythology mixed up. Dionysus is the god of wine, party, madness, nature, and fertility.
Also Hades is not the god of death for that title belongs to Thanatos. Hades is the god of the underworld. BIG DIFFERENCE.
+Plasm Spasm Dionysus is the God of excess. There are several tales and in most, they point to Hades tricking Persephone into staying with him. Ultimately, it had nothing to do with wine. Pomegranates. That's how it happened.
John Choi hades was drinking wine or maybe that's ambrosia
So this is Jabba the Hutt if he was a human?
Seriously,DC? This is NOT Hades.
Wow, Hades has been binge watching too much Netflix shows.
he wanted to help his son but knew he could not as he was in his uncles realm where he rained
Worst feelin bro
@@WZspacecowboy7 yep
The perfect fate for the son of Ares. Considering he slaughter so many amazons and who knows how many other warriors or innocents.
Hades looks and sounds like Mulan's matchmaker. 😂
0:15
Hades : You're early, nephew.
Ares : Not that I don't cherish your company, my dear uncle, but I'm afraid I'm only visiting today.
This is more like Dionysus to me than Hades.
The script almost sounds like a Shakespearean play.
vincentx915 SPEAR.
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Looks more like Dionyssus then Hades...
Hades more like jabba the hut
I knows he's the god of war and kills without hesitation but he dose love his kids so not all bad?
And Zeus is a rapist, so not all good.
Zeus is like a duck, it doesn't matter what it is, he's going to put his dick in it.
dont ducks mate for life
panda hat WTF are you talking about? Ducks will fuck anything. Male ducks, female duck, dead ducks. Yeah, ducks are necrophiliacs. Zeus also never mated for life. He went around fucking random women and leaving them knocked up with his kids. He may have been married to Hera, but he spent more time raping human women and finding ways to torture Hera's offspring than he did with Hera. The DC and Disney versions of Greek Mythology are 100% inaccurate.
clearly gods dont care of any religion greek or not i sead ducks
Since when was Hades depicted as looking like Dionysus
I love how the Abridged just straight up made this be Dionysus.
"Hmm. Hades, you look different."
~Lindsay Ellis
Why does Aries look like a taller, more chiseled David Icke when he was in his prime?
Why does this version of hades look like a Suave Jabba the Hutt instead of the curly haired semi satan of Justice League?
Why does David Icke's Armor later look like a Japanese Samurai Oni?
God of War versio of hades is still the best
This is seriously my favorite rendition of Hades. For him to be so self indulgent works beautifully.
junio. del 2024 y no me canso de verla
This Hades is more to Dionysius
I wish Hades was a bit more well shaped at least with an armor and a hood covering his face with shadow and omly seeing his red shinny eyes, but I like how Ares cares for his son. So far I know, Ares is not always the warmonger that his title represents. Yes, he does have family problems with Zeus and Athena. And also he does not like to socialize with the other gods, even with his own family. Heck, the only friends he has are 3 dark gods, one known as Eris, Goddes of Discord. But remember, Ares only has a very strong connection with only one Olympian and that his Aphrodite, Goddes of Love and his very own lover, maybe the only one who can have big chat with the God of War and even had a baby with him (I can remember the name) and I believe he is a loving warmonger father. So I do love how they showed sadness how his uncle treated his mortal son. What you think?
Funny thing. In this movie, Ares' "girlfriend" is Persephone. I guess that, later, Hades took a little "bonus" from Ares' debt.
Well, Hades designe is kinda disappointing, but once you watch the movie... Dang! He is evil!
Hades was awesome here, i get the feeling his obese looks are just a facade
Later that same day Athena appeared to a mortal;
"We have one final task of you, Kratos. Your greatest challenge awaits in Athens; where even now, my brother: Ares, lays siege, as we speak. Athens is on the verge of destruction. It is the will of Ares my great city fall. Zeus has forbidden the gods from waging war on each other. That is why it must be you, Kratos. Only a mortal trained by a god has a chance at defeating Ares.
Complete this final task, and the past that consumes you will be forgiven. Have faith, Kratos, the gods do not forget those who come to their aid."
At :24 I was already imagining Disney's Hades and was somehow hoping for that.
The power of war.....in the palm of his hands.
May it be that aquaman is some kind of poseidon because he has superpowers too
This depiction of hades really isn’t that bad. He’s also the god of wealth, which could be considered “greed” or “gluttony”. This version wasn’t an evil villain, he just relished in the lavish luxury of ruling the underworld
And he also doesn't assault every attractive mortal woman he sees, like Zeus does.
Oliver Platt as Hades & Alfred Molina as Ares,couldn't get any better than this
You are a little fool, Ares. Did you really think you could bribe the god of the underworld with a thousand servants? Hades doesn't need servants, nor does he need war to get more. He already has more servants than he knows what to do with. The dead come to him everyday. All you were promising to do was to give Hades more work.
I felt so sorry for Thrax in this movie, murdered by his own mother who never gives a fuck about him, tortured by his granduncle for a millenia and left to rotten by his father, poor boy.
He deserved it, he's the product of a rape and had no redeeming qualities which is why his mother had no love for him, not to mention he was killed as he was killing countless Amazons that were his mother's sisters
7463649pH Well being a product of a rape is not his fault in any way, also in barely two quick scenes, one of them fighting and other as slave we can't see if he had redeeming qualities or not, and Hipolita was not the best judge in this film since she has an irrational hate towards men and specially all related to Ares, Amazons were also killing and we can't say that they deserved a eternity of slavery in the Hades for that.
+xCoatlicuex I agree it wasn't his fault but I explained that was one of the reasons his mother had no love for him. Obviously it's not for us to judge what goes on. As an audience, it our job to be entertained and try to relate to the characters and the dynamic. This movie does not sympathize with Ares or his son because they are evil by nature, it's just who they are. I was merely trying to tell you why she ruthlessly killed her son according to the movie. You can't really say she has an irrational hate for men either, she interrogated Steve with the lasso loosely on his neck and after determining he was no threat to her people, she let him go back in peace with Diana to escort him back home safely. As for Ares, well, he's the God of WAR. Would you trust him or anyone that wants to let him loose?
7463649pH Well, more or less my point, the movie doesn't present the amazons as characters totally good, they are actually flawless and the irrational hate is one of their flaws, yes Hypolita doesn't kill Steve, but he is attacked incarcerated, judged, menaced, just because he is a men, only after great deliberation she decides send an ambassador to judge if the world is worthy to being in contact with the amazons, (even Diana who is one of the most open amazon perceive courtesy and jokes as attacks) amazons are, proud, aggressive and mock those who prefer the study over the fight (like Alexa), and are eager to fight and kill, being honest without all the gifts of the gods (power, youth, magic) they will be a barbaric civilization who has any development in the last thousands of years. About Ares, well in this movie (and DC universe in general) he is a villain, but actually in greek mythology he was father and protector to the amazons.
+xCoatlicuex No they aren't presented as purely 'good' but that's what makes the DC Comics great (in my opinion). They produce characters that are relatable. No one is perfect. Everyone reacts to situations differently and you can't judge unless you have been in that situation- for movies, all you can do is try and enjoy, for real life, all you can do is learn from the mistakes made. As for Ares, there are many different fables and stories in Greek mythology (some good, some bad) but we are talking about how he was depicted in this movie.
Hades needs to eat a salad and hit a treadmill. Some liposuction couldn't hurt either.
+Sarin Antilles lmao I thought the damn same myself when I first saw this movie
Hades hung out with Dionysus for to many thousands of years.
I love the fact he summoned his son.
Sheesh, Hades is a one slimy bastard in this movie. Showing Ares what he has done to Thrax, knowing Ares has no choice but to stay in his good graces.
then when Ares died,he became his slave
Gotta find it amusing how the god of death seems more like Dionyssus. He's so thicc and yet so suave too. Ares is just badass either way.
"I will wage WAR and countless humans will die!"
"Buddy, I'm an eternal representation of death. Everyone goes to me in time. Really not offering me anything that I won't get anyway."
Actually that honor belongs to Thanatos(it's also how we call death in Greek even today), Hades is simply the god of the dead.
@@azazel166 Well, not in DC he's not. In DC "Thanatos" is some weird extradimensional clone of Aquaman who basically only shows up to get killed and start a war. Nothing to do with the Greek pantheon you're "um actually"ing for.
This was one of the best scenes in the movie and I really whish the movie would have spent more time on the gods and the amazons instead of Diana's godawful fucking dumb love interest I already forgot the name of. Also Im glad Hades is fat, its a different design from the macho muscle body type every other DC character has and I am glad for every break of repetition we get with superhero movies
+JoinTheHabbit I think the whole fat body suits hades, at least when he doesn't need to do stuff. Imagine how many slaves he'd have by now, chances are he hasn't move from that seat in centuries.
That Hades got to be in discuise...
in the end hades makes a slave out of him too
Everyone hating on this Hades because he's fat, but I love how shrewd and manipulative he is.
People are hating on this hades because he looks more like Dionysus then hades .
Oh Hades, what have they done to you?
I thought it was Dionysus, there’s wine and a toga
0:28
Me: Holy fuck! It's Dionysus
Hades: I'm not Dionysus, I am Hades!
Me: Oh, my apologies Jabba the Hutt
Hades: 😡
seems like they confused hades with bacchus
He probably looks better in the winter and fall
Why are people getting mad at DC Hades not looking like Hades of the actual Greek myths? Besides, he's a god; he can look whatever he wants. Maybe he was feeling a bit decadent.
This Ares looks like a little Dark Schneider from Bastard that is on Netflix.
Hades & Ares are my favorite Greek gods.
Hades looks like he dressed for an Elton John concert.
Hades can take any form he chooses
I think this is the God of the Feast. notice how he says uncle if this was Ares and Hades they would be brothers.
Zeus is Ares Dad. Zeus is Hades Brother. Ares Uncle is Hades
Worst version of hades EVER!!!
lol. this makes me wonder what they would've made poseidon look like
When Mr D decided to leave Camp Half-Blood to rule the Underworld after Hades left.
“Let’s make this quick ares, I have a Spartan to deal with later today”
Hades is actually is a tough, and terrfying God. Mortals feared him, but respected him for he always acted with justice and honor. he is the oldest of 3 brothers, and perhaps the most dangerous one. a battle between Olympus and Underworld is the kind of war you cant be sure who to bet on. yet, even tho Hades knew he was cheated to rule Underworld and angry to his brothers because he cared about balance more than his pride he let go of the past and accepted his responsibilities with full seriousity. only known crime of his is the kidnaping of Persaphone. even tho some say he raped her there is nothing written about it according to original mythology. after a few fears Persaphone actually fell in love with Hades, for he was always caring and kind to her. This is not Hades. this is jabba the Hut.
Interesting design of Hades, I never seen him illustrate in this way before.
How many pizzas did Hades eat?
700000
Ares and hades make the perfect family after all he war and hell do go good together
" good lord I was under the impression your species survived entirely on ambrocia, why is he so fat?"
First Hades exposed Ares as a hypocrit and later made him his personal slave for all eternity.
Hades: 2
Ares: 0