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When I worked in an auto part store I had 2 HA’s in my store and a lady that needed her alternator replaced. It wasn’t a hard job, I could do it in about 5 minutes but as the manager on duty I wasn’t allowed by corporate policy to leave the store for anything more than testing a battery or a check engine light. My co worker wasn’t skilled enough to do the job so… the customer was really upset that he truck was broken and one of the HA guys heard me tell her I wasn’t able to help her until the other manager gets back from lunch in about 30 minutes. The HA asked me what she needed and I told him, he said he would do it for her. The woman’s eyes about bugged out of her head and she asked me if it was ok. I told her he is one of my regulars and he is good people. She said but he’s a… a…. (And pointed to him while he was picking up something off a shelf). I said yes he is and he is a good guy. Don’t believe everything you see on the news, most of them are good guys, a few are questionable and you only ever hear about the bad ones on TV. The HA took her new alternator out to her truck and had it swapped in about 5 minutes. She offered him some money, he refused and told her to donate to a children’s charity instead.
I met a HA about 25 yrs ago. Really nice guy - him and his Mrs. He would do anything to help someone - Sad that he passed 9 months ago. Heck of a person.
Years ago this club practiced a courtesy of helping people broken down on the side of the road and a member would hand you a card saying something like " I was helped by a Hell Angs today" ( something like that ). It was a really cool thing that might take place if you were broken down. They terminated this courtesy because of paranoid stupid people thinking it was some sort of a crime. ( California) The Club ( 81 ) , is very expressive about the use of their actual name or abbreviated name. Not all 1% Motorcycle Clubs are strict with the use of their name. Personally , I greatly admire and respect this club as a whole. I ride and go to events and things like that. You may rarely cross paths with this club or it's members and it might make little difference to you , but we never ever use their actual name or the abbreviation of their club name. We refer to them as The Red and White . There is a very clear list of strict rules and language that the club lays down for supporters to understand and follow and we are invited to share those guidelines ( I can't find it at the moment ) . Failure to follow these guidelines will be seen as a great disrespect to the club and you'll be uninvited and unwelcome. Again , for those of us who want to party with them , or be around or make our presence known in their environment, we follow and understand their wishes ----- clearly. Supporters have been following such rules for decades. With the advent of social media for instance . I will not use 81 by itself ( although I just did ) . It must be either Support 81 or 81 Support. I can use my name Frank 81 Support or Supporter . These rules are in place for many reasons , one main reason is to prevent men from posing as an actual member when they are not . 81SupportDesertCoachellaSupport81
Thank you, I've been going to Sturgis on and off since 1962 and NEVER had any confrontations with anyone and I've parked my scooter right next to the HA and never had anything come of it!! I've parked my bike, taken of my leather jacket, thrown it on my bike seat and come back a couple of hours later and it's still there!! Sturgis is SAFE!! Everyone there has come for fun and relaxation not to cause trouble!! It's a human zoo that you must see once in your lifetime!! Hey, I played music in the bars for 25 years and if you want to see trouble you don't need bikers believe me!! Motorcycle riders are some of the finest, nices, honest people you'll ever meet!! Thanks for the great video!! Most of the ridicule about Sturgis comes from people who've never been there!! Don't listen.....GO, it's a great experence!!!
I’ve been 9 times in 13 years. I’m 61. Took my step daughter and 2 of her friends up. They are all tall, thin and hot as hell. Told group I was going to town shopping 19 year old girl says can I go, yeah sure. She’s tattooed and 5’9”. I’m old grey beard. We got 15’ from HA shop and there girls were on her. Hey you two come on in. Stick around. We went for few. I says what do you think, she says yeah let’s go. I’m twice widowed. The kids had a blast and I think we turned a few heads.
I'm 71 years old & while I've never been a club member I have hung around with HA for years. One of my all time best friends in the world was a long time HA member. I have partied with them for years. Twice over the years I was business partners with an HA member (I owned a biker bar for 20 years & my partner was HA). I have been a Harley mechanic since the first Harley I built in 1969 (rigid Panhead chopper). I did motor work for members over the years (I build wild stroker motors & my current ride is a tweaked out 124 with nitrous oxide & a Pingel air shift). In all the years, I have never had one single problem with an HA member. I've certainly been involved in my share of scraps over the years but never against a club member. I'm respectable to everybody & I learned years ago that nobody ever got in trouble by keeping their mouth shut 😂 😂
Big facts. As someone who has/wears a backpatch that comes from another subculture and rides, I've never had a issue. The "worst" thing that's ever happened has been club members asking me what it was for. As soon as I explained what it meant, zero issues. Simple respect solves so many issues....
people die every year trying to get pictures with the bison in Yellowstone....people want something to post or tell their friends. Clubs that "advertise" invite this behavior.
Can’t speak for anyone but me , I’m not a rider , but I’ve been acquainted with a few “ bikers “ over the years , all of em were great guys, course , I didn’t try to get in their business , we swapped some tales , but I mostly listened and enjoyed my evenings .
I was a truck driver. I had a dangerous stop in downtown Cleveland Ohio. Bad neigborhood . It was about 1 am . Hells Angels saw me go through the gate. I was alone. The store was closed. So i drove around to the back door . I kept hearing them go back and forth in front of the store . I thought uh oh . I was nervous . Absolutely wrong thought. As soon as i pulled back around and locked the gate. As soon as I got back in my truck. And they knew I was ok. One kinda waved . And they were gone. I will never forget that night. And i will never forget the Hells Angels. That was 1991 . I have so much respect for those men . Thankyou .
@@TheLisaGate I bet. I used to go to some bars in Cleveland. Scranton Tavern , 71 bar. Juniors Comet on west 25. Not too many problems. Bet there are problems now. And WMMS had the best music. Not so much now . Hail to the good old days. Please be careful and take care of yourself. It is crazy all over anymore. 🌹❤️👍
@@George-zi5if thank you for the kind words. Yea. I only travel close to downtown first thing in the morning. I avoid it at all costs after 12 p.m. I listen to WMMS. It’s still decent. Thank you for being a trucker. My uncle is also a trucker. Thanks also for the kind words. Have a good one!
My experience goes like this...''Don't come around them acting all Billy Bad-A$$ Biker''. That shit won't fly. Just be respectful. Having said that, here is my encounter...15 odd years back, there was a run out in California called The Redwood Run. My first time out there (I rode alone from Kansas), I had no idea the overall layout of the place. I found a spot and set up camp. Turns out it was across from the HA's camp area. As I started pondering my choice of sites, a couple from the club wandered into my campsite. My first thought was ''Oh s**t, I F'd up''. Well, they start the conversation ''Kansas plates? Holy s**y dude, you put some miles in. Did you ride alone? What was the route you took?'' Well, as things went along in a conversation you would expect from a couple of road dogs meeting up at some stop, friends were made. As the weekend progressed, they'd swing by for a drink, some chatting, enjoy some shade, just good times. Well, as it sometimes happens, you run out of ice for your whiskey, and I made mention that I just ran out. One of the guys looked at me and said, ''I got a cooler over there, help yourself''. I was in shock and said ''Shit, I go in there and I'lll get my ass kicked''. They laughed and told me not to worry. There were enough that new of me there that I'd be fine. (He was right). I spent the next handful of years camping in the same spot. Got along with the crew pretty good. Mornings found me being invited over to their camp for breakfast, afternoons were some great conversations while hiding from the sun, and evenings brought the bands and parties. Some very enjoyable times spent with them folks. Their hospitality just blew my mind. On one of my trips out there, I had swung up thru Oregon and Washington State before heading down the coast. I'd spent the first half the day playing leap frog with a different club. A couple simple howdy's along the way at different scenic stops. We ended up at the same gas stop at one point, and finally got to chatting. Again, ''Kansas Plates?''. And the standard road questions started rolling. Next thing I knew when it was time to roll, ''Yo, Kansas, feel free to grab a spot in the pack''. Yeah, respect and just being decent can go a long way. Well, I've rambled enough.... just mind your manners and things will sort themselves out. You just might end up with some good friends/contacts down the road.
I love watching the so called dominant clubs squirm when LE clubs do what they want and laugh at them. That's the way it should be for everyone who rides, this is America and nobody needs a group of road dictators
I may be mistaken but from what I’ve gathered from my handful of Sturgis rallies, is that during the rally there’s not much, if any, “business” conducted during that time. Everyone’s there to just have a good time.
This cracks me up. One minute he says there is nothing to worry about, then he's talking about the dominant club's territory, getting grilled by prospects, and what not to wear. This is why many people do not like the culture, or the people in it. The vast majority of bikers are good Americans, and not prone to senseless violence. No one should have to fear being approached at a gas station and intimidated because of the wrong-colored shirt.
Maybe you're just an A hole? I have personally witnessed people get beat up by "club members"' before you were born. You wouldn't say I was fragile in person. Be safe.@@ProfessionalMonkey
I had an encounter with said club at a gas station on I-90,extremely great guys and blocked the gas pumps so me and my buddy could fuel up at the same time. Told us to be safe and ride hard. I know that encounter could’ve went differently had we been wearing a cut of any kind.
I have never heard anyone express this concern at any rally ever. In fact, for the most part, 98% of bikers don’t care about MC’s anymore than they care about us……
I’m not saying I’ve been in the club scene a bunch, but the times I have been around clubs at an event they always seem to just hang out with each other and mind their own business.
Im not a big fan of the dominate club around me, but ive learned please, thank you, excuse me and sorry go along way. But usually when they roll up i roll out cause there gonna be drama
Wait ✋️ your meaning to tell me there are motorcycle clubs @ Sturgis who'd have ever thought 🤔 Keep up the good work Monk I couldn't help but, comment when I seen the notification
Made it to Sturgis one time. Rode in from Longmont, CO on an 80/80 Lowrider with my wife and a tent. We camped in City Park and had a great time. I believe that was the last year anyone was allowed to camp in City Park. Lots of beer was consumed, burnouts and catch the hotdog were popular. And there were a couple nude beauty contests conducted on top of school buses. and a few shots were fired late at night. There was no police presence in the park that I could see. It wasn't so commercialized then. I think I would not like it so much now.
Club members are just human beings and the majority of them are pretty darn good people. Just don't play stupid games with them because you just might win a stupid prize.
18 years living in Rapid City just down the road, 22 times at the rally. Best time yet from all the events across the country. Although there ARE incidents, usually happens between some members of different clubs. Limited to each other and not really involving others. Once I was doing a little extra work during the rally driving a shuttle bus to the chip. Dammn good money actually, used to make about 10k in the week and a little more. During my last trip, 2 guys did get into it and one slammed a knife into the others neck, tons of blood but I do believe he seriously was being an arsehole and while I have to say he brought it upon himself. Back in FL now, damn I Miss the black hills.
Since you live in Rapid City, maybe you can answer a question for me? I was out at Sturgis twice in '05 and '07 and have friends in Sioux Falls ans Custer. The guy in the video says the Angels are the dominant club in Sturgis. I was under the impression that the Bandidos were the dominant club in South Dakota. Is this not true?
@@briansauer6695 To be accurate I USED to live there been gone but have been back for a few rallys and holidays. Angels own property of a campground, a bar and a few more ventures. Don't forget the oldest and the official club who started it all and still roll, Jack Pine Gypsys (Gypsies?). Many clubs have presence during the rally, some have gotten into issues like shootouts and fights but not every club every year. Then Bandidos are like "another' club during the rally but at any other time of year I would say they have the biggest presence. I swear though, I rode 5 or 6 days a week and usually never even saw colors.
@@davidmount9117 Thanks for clarifying. The two times I'd been out there, I did see representation of many of the large 1%er clubs there. Never saw Mongols or Pagans there, but I don't think they were expanding like they have in the last few years since I was there.
Back in the day, had a lot of contact with The Vigilantes in Detroit which were the equal to Hells Angels in CA. Yeah, they didn't take any BS but also a great group. This was back in 70s. You did not screw them over but generally good guys. I remember once when waitressing had to pull double shift in smaller restaurant and was working when the bars let out. A group of them came in and started throwing the plastic ash trays around and breaking them. I was so tired by then I wasn't in the mood so I told their arses off! Didn't care! They laughed a bit, knocked of the nonsense and all left me great tips! They knew they were f'n around and I called them on it. Many of my best friends were bikers. You knew they had your back. Don't screw them over and you don't have problems!
Simple solution.... If you are spooked or uneasy with being surrounded by a bunch of guys wearing there cuts. Simply tell them that you are uneasy and ask them to remove their cuts. You can even help them get those heavy jackets off. I guarantee, you will never have a problem after that. Just remember to be polite.
Only time I was concerned about an MC was when a rival club showed up riding hard in the dominant club's turf. I skipped out of bike night early that day. Rode to the neighboring county and hit the bars downtown. Thirty minutes later the same MC rolled in in force. I struggled to convince my friends something was about to go down and it was time to leave. Most of the time colors were not an issue. This was different. Not long after that a certain someone on some 19th road was taken out by that same MC. Those who know, know.
@@Americanpatriot602 it's a sin? Being from Chicago, where there is actual gang activity, all i can say is this- these "clubs" act just like the gangs I see daily in chicago.
@@SixWheelsDown - and?? So what! I’ve lived in Chicago for a long time, even before these gangs were spread out here from fucking stupid California! all I’m saying is they are called an MC not MG!
Never met a better bunch men than at my local 81 184 (both on one property) officially made a hangaround last week and although it comes with ABSOLUTELY no status whatsoever they all treat me like I have good status. Through life habits I said “how ya doing brother?” to a friend there and quickly apologized and corrected. He just laughed and said he made that mistake a lot and no one’s gonna get pissed over little mistakes
Your right! Glad to see you are getting this out in open. Sturgis SD. Is a great place for all to enjoy. Also most places have no color,s and 1 percent club,s honor that!. I see why you're not a club member anymore...Dam!
I'm president of a CMA (Christian Motorcyclists Association) chapter. We attend all the big events, and you'll see us manning tables handing out cold water and goodies, wearing our vests with single backpatches (we don't have three piece/ rockers). Our organization is welcomed even in areas where there are dominant clubs because we don't step on toes, we treat everyone with respect, and we help out where we can. I've had 1%s roll up on me while I'm riding to see what was up, but they see the patch, give me two fingers down, and either blast on by, or sometimes just cruise along. Had a few ask me to bless their bikes or pray with them at a fuel stop or scenic turnout. Don't believe the hype, but don't be stupid.
This makes complete sense, because MC clubs don't want negative attention. Biker rallies have been shut down because clubs let the chain off the sprocket (Laughlin NV) and no one wants to be the reason Sturgis or Hollister or any other rally gets shuttered. The MC's are there to have a good time, like everybody else, and outstanding "club biz" dragged into the public eye harshes everyone's buzz.
Don't go looking for trouble, and trouble won't look for you. I have never had any trouble with any club members in many years or sturgis visits. Show respect, and don't have an attitude, and you will be treated the same. Hoping to have a beer with you on Saturday at the iron horse!
Liking the new vroom vroom intro. Did not know you left the organization that shall not be named. Know you were very passionate about it. Sorry to hear.
And this is why I no longer ride or wish to join anything or wish to attend any rallies. I get it, and I respect it, and I won't step on toes, but I think it's silly and don't want anything to do with it. Too many rules for people who call themselves "outlaws". And yeah, it can differ from chapter to chapter, club to club, but why bother? I got more to live for than a bike. I'm not dying over a stupid vest because someone thinks I disrespected them. More bikes means more awareness means more safety, but egos always ruin everything. But because of this, I parked my ride and run on all fours now. For those who still ride, stay up on 2.
I had a friend that worked for Harley Davidson. They would go to the rallies at Sturgis. They told him being there was all cool but be aware of where you are and stay out of the Bandido's camp.
there is a well known MC in my area on the east coast, they attend most of the bike nights, they don’t f&ck with people at all, don’t act a fool and stare at them and say dumb shit, you’ll be fine 😂
You are absolutely right a certain club will ask you too remove your vest or colors as you put it ,the worst thing is to back down and do as they say it happened to me and a group I was with we explained our buisness and were left alone.
Monkey, going to Sturgis for the first time this year. Leaving on 7/30 from Dago. I thought I heard you say your old club ? If so enjoy you new chapter of life. See you up there
That's weird. Must have been just those guys. I rolled into a gas station and there was a pack of roughly 20 or so of em. I own a Honda Rebel 500. I am a new rider and chose that bike to start out on because it is lighter and easier to control for me and the price point was great incase I ever dropped the bike, was cheaper to repair. I also appreciated the riding position and height. I very obviously looked like a newbie and a couple of em strolled up and asked about my bike and why I chose it. I gave em my reasons why and they smiled and told me I had made the right choice for myself. I guess they respected the fact I did some research before buying a bike and knew exactly what I needed for my situation. They did razz me a little about my reflective vest I wore over my jacket. Something we were encouraged to do by the driving school. I laughed and agreed it did look a bit silly. They gave me some great tips, then went on their way. So my interaction with them was a very positive one.
2023 Sturgis was a blast. We went into T shirt shop and on the way out there was this big burly guy sitting in a chair receiving a neck/shoulder massage from a girl that was trying to sell a particular type of gizmo. Our eyes met and I said to him: "Does that feel as good as it looks?". He just looked at me and responded: "I'm sportin a chubster". We both just chuckled. Fast forward 45 minutes. We had parked up by the cop shop and were ready to put our purchases into our saddle bags and I look over at the house right at the foot of the police station. (The dominant club was all over this abode). Who do I see there? This big burly guy again. Our eyes met and in an instant he held up his index finger motioning just a minute, he grabbed an extra beer, headed my way, handed it to me and we started talking. We talked like we'd known one another twenty years while consuming a couple of libations. That being said, was it fun? Yes. Was it enlightening? Yes. Did I feel threatened? In no way, shape, or form. People are people, and as long as you have a commonality, there are no issues and trust me on this one, those boys know how to party.
I've been road riding since I was 14 years old. Raised in Jacksonville Florida and there was one predominant club in the area ("Sin City") and several "support clubs". I've never had any negative interactions with any of them. If you aren't "affiliated" with a club and handle yourself with respect, you can hang out with them in public areas all you want.
Been here 35 years..never heard of Sin City...Outlaws, Black Pistons, Gorillas, Locals, Iron Order, Outcast, Black Skulls, then the regular stuff like American Legion, RAs, etc ...Im also not into any of that either
I was in JAX 40 plus years ago. Never heard of Sin City MC, either. I frequented Howards G String where the Outlaws were prominent. There was a club near a bar called Manapaders on University. Heck, I got my tattoos from Eric Inksmith when he was working from his house in Brunswick GA. As for Sturges the 81 have their own set up and parking.
Another vid with great content. I am glad to see that some members of certain riding groups are riding bikes other than HD. Even a certain notable departed leader (RIP) of a well-known group owned and rode a Victory. HD, Inc ain't what it used to be. (Huge understatement)
@@perryroberts4353 Polaris owned the Victory brand; with Arlen and Cory Ness as design consultants, they put out some sweet looking rides. Then Polaris bought the Indian marque, and decided it didn't need two competing brands. Victory lost that coin toss, but if you look at the current Indian designs, they still have a lot of the Ness flavor that put Victory on the map. (Personally, my fave Indian designs were the ones out of Gilroy CA, they had the swoopy 40's art deco look of the originals.)
Great advice. The only time I've heard of shit going sideways with 'the boys' at Sturgis....was some years back when a club from ILL. came rumblin in. They don't wear a diamond, but like to act like they do. They wanted to hang out with the big dogs, get loud, act tough, blah blah. But, there's this thing called 'stealing thunder'. Some people don't like when you come into their 'backyard' and act like you live there. Without getting into details, they were invited to go resume the party elsewhere. That was the last time they went as a club. Regardless of what that patch means to you, it doesn't mean shit to them.
I'm with the CVMA (Combat Vets Motorcycle Association and we usually never have any issues with any clubs. There are times where there is a no fly zone issued so we will take our cuts off out of respect to whichever local clubs in that area.
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Every time you say three piece I think of KFC. Can I have a pic of a three piece on my cut with a patch for cole slaw and one for mashed potatoes? JK Respect!
My wife is from Sturgis South Dakota and we lived up there for about 10 years. Went to every rally from 92 well up into the 2000s on and off throughout the years. Haven't been in a while and we miss it. But one year we went into a bar and it was so packed it was standing room only. Of course the clubs cannot wear or display their colors in the bar. So these two guys that were sitting down offered my wife and I their seats and started buying us rounds. After a couple hours of drinking and talking. They had to head out they picked up their jackets and then we noticed that they were Hell's Angels. They invited us out to the club to come out and hang out and party afterwards. Of course we didn't go lol. But some of the coolest guys you ever want to meet. They look scary but they were cool. Now I will say one year a local young farmer was harassing the club while they are on the road he was in a pickup truck Well let's just say he didn't make it very far down the road on i-90 before they caught up with him! They didn't kill him but I guarantee you he showed respect from that day forward lol
I could care less about MCs. I don’t mess with them if they don’t mess with me and I’m sure most of them are the same way. I wouldn’t wear my colors anyway. No point in it.
I've been on poker runs with HA or other clubs in and around SF Bay Area and never had one bit of trouble. Live and let live with those guys and treat people with respect, and don't get mouthy or say stupid things and you'll be alright.
Same with Dallas/Fort Worth. Every toy run has a group of the dominant/support MC's showing up (and sometimes a few competing clubs). They're there for the same reasons as everyone else - to support the charity. After Waco, most MC's (and RC's) in the area know better than to flex when there's cops around, cos the cops down here do not care what your patch says, if they think you're fucking around, they will take you straight to 'find out'.
Hey Dude,whats your view on scooters/mopeds,thinking of getting one,the idea of just twisting the handle and going seems very appealing😅,greetings from Ireland
I did a camp out with the Banditos at Red Lodge, Montana once. I was prepared to be up partying all night and getting drunk and shit. Imagine my surprise when everyone in the Bandito Camp (except a few Lookouts) was in bed by 9-9:30pm. Camping with the Banditos was the best and quietest campout I have ever been on. Plus, some of those guys and gals can cook! BBQ sandwiches, steaks grilled to order, Yes, Liquor too, but nobody was hammering it. This group of Banditos is supposed to be one of the most dangerous biker groups around. Yet I saw they greeted many lone wolf riders by name and shook hands, pats on the back etc. Great group of Bikers. There were about 100 Banditos there and not a single problem that whole weekend.
I'm not in a club, I've been riding for 25 plus years. My experience with the major club in Houston, is they are pretty cool dudes. I think the thing to remember is show them respect and mind your business. There is a military club here that was confronted by this club and told to take their cut off or they were going to take them off for them. The military club tried to explain to them who they were, the didn't give a dam. Therefore I don't even own a vest much less one with a patch. I've been to Sturgis, don't remeber a lot of colors being flown
I have a question on colors, cuts, or all of that. I ride sometimes with a national group called Rolling Thunder non profit supporting Veterans. We can't even refer to ourselves as a club. I wear a vest with a large back patch "SUPPORT OUR TROOPS" with the service logos, with a top rocker NAVY and a bottom rocker RETIRED. Would something like this cause any issues ? Thanks
So I got a question: I have a jacket with a niche band symbol from the 90's and simple album cover outline embroidered onto my jacket, not a patch, no band name mentioned, no other patches on the back. I know it's possible to get approached anywhere, but if I wore it to Sturgis, would a simple google search of the band get me out of the magnifying glass, and/or what else should I be concerned about?
This was a soft concern of mine. I'm just getting started riding and planned on wearing my old punk vest. It's not a rocker or anything literally just an old misfits shirt cut up and sewn onto a denim vest my grandfather gave me.
@@JustJoe_media the only thing clubs get upset about are patches with a central patch, top rocker name patch or bottom rocker territory patch. In Britain the territory patch is a side rocker. Black Label Society created a three piece patch and they did NOT like that. Motörhead had a two piece patch that was obviously a band patch and that was OK. The worst that will happen is they will make you take it off and you probably won't get it back. Don't wear anything pretending to be a 3 piece motorcycle patch and you'll be fine.
Just be a normal person, as everyone should be = no problems. Spot on the prospects and sometimes the clubs operating under a major club is the problem, but again if your just minding your own business no biggie
Fairing Exchange, hands down. Every other vendor will be 3 times the price, maybe a 10% better stereo. They will be at the Rally at Exit 55, in the vendor lot across from the giant one.
I've lived less than 30 minutes away for the last 30 years. I go up in the Black Hills and camp out, ride my dirt bike, stay away from as much of the 'posers' as I possibly can. LOL
The difference between poser and poseur- Calling someone a poseur is an insult because it insinuates that the person is a liar, a sneak, or delusional. The word poseur is derived from the French, like the words raconteur and liqueur. A poser is someone who poses, like someone who is serving as a model for an artist or someone who is being photographed.
I used to hang around older people and party. My brother had a friend we would go there and party. But this friend always had MC clubs at his house . The Drifters , Lost Souls and the Jaws of Satan. Never any problems. They all got along. They would pick on each other. But it was all in fun . Good times. I have not heard of any of them in years . Possibly patched over , I have no idea where they went . That was 48 years ago.
Shits so stupid. I was riding my 636 once minding my own business and some members of a club I won’t mention checked me because I had on a record label logo on the back of my jacket. This world sucks. Smh
We all have a dominant club in our territory and we mostly have a coalition or COC now. If you've been accepted by Coalition I'd wear your patch. Don't go being a tough guy or being disrespectful to ANYBODY because you could have a bad time. Be courteous to respectful to everyone and every club and you'll be fine
I've known as friends/coworkers, some very high level HA's in Vegas, even PeeWee gave me a couple of support stickers for my bike..I realize that is a double edge sword but it works as an anti-theft device. I work as a stagehand at the Buffalo Chip during the rally and can attest to their presence. My name is Bicycle Bob and I approved this message and come by the stage and say High!
I ride a Hayabusa and a BMW R18 Roctane. I dont ride with anybody. I dont like any of you. I dont even wave. I want nothing to do with anyone, bike rider or not. I have a cat. Thats all i need for friends. I just want to ride.
I have been watching your videos videos lately. Thank you. I went to the Harley 120 Anniversary and inadvertently found myself interacting for a very short period of time with 2 people that had 1% patches. I’m newer to riding and wouldn’t have been aware of this part of the motorcycle culture. Thanks to your video (and DemonsRow), I was calm, respectful, and found it a pleasant and again short interaction and I quickly moved on. They were both nice. We were near the food and drink area. They also seemed very respectful and were there to have a good time. Thanks for the guidance.
good advice really just be switched on, prospects! they are usually cool but opportunistic is how I would call them I have always been in a public place with them and just been cautious but respectful, here in Australia it is usually about the rebuttal of comments tactful but mostly on guard but cordial, polite and found conversations focused on bikes to be rewarding. Just my two cents, great video
Been there 6 times no issues just a bunch of people having a great time. Be safe be Courteous put two feet down at stop signs. There is a police presence everywhere. As an old saying goes if you can't handle your liquor this is bad place to find out. 😅
VA Black Hills Health Care System will have a booth at the 83rd Annual Rally this year at the Armory. If you're a Veteran that was denied benefits before, you may be eligible now for benefits. Stop by our booth to talk with a healthcare or claims specialist, and we'll see what we can do for you.
I just pinned your comment. My father was denied claims for years before we got him 100% approval due to agent orange poisoning.
Do you know roughly where the booth is? I am healing from foot surgery and must limit walking.
@@joannekasten5635 yeah 1019 main st. In the armory. When you walk in, the booth is by the bathrooms
When I worked in an auto part store I had 2 HA’s in my store and a lady that needed her alternator replaced. It wasn’t a hard job, I could do it in about 5 minutes but as the manager on duty I wasn’t allowed by corporate policy to leave the store for anything more than testing a battery or a check engine light. My co worker wasn’t skilled enough to do the job so… the customer was really upset that he truck was broken and one of the HA guys heard me tell her I wasn’t able to help her until the other manager gets back from lunch in about 30 minutes. The HA asked me what she needed and I told him, he said he would do it for her. The woman’s eyes about bugged out of her head and she asked me if it was ok. I told her he is one of my regulars and he is good people. She said but he’s a… a…. (And pointed to him while he was picking up something off a shelf). I said yes he is and he is a good guy. Don’t believe everything you see on the news, most of them are good guys, a few are questionable and you only ever hear about the bad ones on TV. The HA took her new alternator out to her truck and had it swapped in about 5 minutes. She offered him some money, he refused and told her to donate to a children’s charity instead.
I met a HA about 25 yrs ago. Really nice guy - him and his Mrs. He would do anything to help someone - Sad that he passed 9 months ago. Heck of a person.
Great story, you can’t believe the hype. The vast majority of MC members, 1% or not, are really good people.
I ride with American Legion Riders. Never had any issues with HA or any other M/C. Sometimes some will join in our charity rides.
Years ago this club practiced a courtesy of helping people broken down on the side of the road and a member would hand you a card saying something like " I was helped by a Hell Angs today" ( something like that ). It was a really cool thing that might take place if you were broken down. They terminated this courtesy because of paranoid stupid people thinking it was some sort of a crime. ( California)
The Club ( 81 ) , is very expressive about the use of their actual name or abbreviated name.
Not all 1% Motorcycle Clubs are strict with the use of their name.
Personally , I greatly admire and respect this club as a whole. I ride and go to events and things like that. You may rarely cross paths with this club or it's members and it might make little difference to you , but we never ever use their actual name or the abbreviation of their club name. We refer to them as The Red and White .
There is a very clear list of strict rules and language that the club lays down for supporters to understand and follow and we are invited to share those guidelines ( I can't find it at the moment ) . Failure to follow these guidelines will be seen as a great disrespect to the club and you'll be uninvited and unwelcome. Again , for those of us who want to party with them , or be around or make our presence known in their environment, we follow and understand their wishes ----- clearly. Supporters have been following such rules for decades.
With the advent of social media for instance . I will not use 81 by itself ( although I just did ) . It must be either Support 81 or 81 Support.
I can use my name Frank 81 Support or Supporter .
These rules are in place for many reasons , one main reason is to prevent men from posing as an actual member when they are not .
81SupportDesertCoachellaSupport81
5 minutes….bull shit!
Thank you, I've been going to Sturgis on and off since 1962 and NEVER had any confrontations with anyone and I've parked my scooter right next to the HA and never had anything come of it!! I've parked my bike, taken of my leather jacket, thrown it on my bike seat and come back a couple of hours later and it's still there!! Sturgis is SAFE!! Everyone there has come for fun and relaxation not to cause trouble!! It's a human zoo that you must see once in your lifetime!! Hey, I played music in the bars for 25 years and if you want to see trouble you don't need bikers believe me!! Motorcycle riders are some of the finest, nices, honest people you'll ever meet!! Thanks for the great video!! Most of the ridicule about Sturgis comes from people who've never been there!! Don't listen.....GO, it's a great experence!!!
I’ve been 9 times in 13 years. I’m 61. Took my step daughter and 2 of her friends up. They are all tall, thin and hot as hell. Told group I was going to town shopping 19 year old girl says can I go, yeah sure. She’s tattooed and 5’9”. I’m old grey beard. We got 15’ from HA shop and there girls were on her. Hey you two come on in. Stick around. We went for few. I says what do you think, she says yeah let’s go. I’m twice widowed. The kids had a blast and I think we turned a few heads.
I'm 71 years old & while I've never been a club member I have hung around with HA for years. One of my all time best friends in the world was a long time HA member. I have partied with them for years. Twice over the years I was business partners with an HA member (I owned a biker bar for 20 years & my partner was HA). I have been a Harley mechanic since the first Harley I built in 1969 (rigid Panhead chopper). I did motor work for members over the years (I build wild stroker motors & my current ride is a tweaked out 124 with nitrous oxide & a Pingel air shift). In all the years, I have never had one single problem with an HA member. I've certainly been involved in my share of scraps over the years but never against a club member. I'm respectable to everybody & I learned years ago that nobody ever got in trouble by keeping their mouth shut 😂 😂
Big facts. As someone who has/wears a backpatch that comes from another subculture and rides, I've never had a issue. The "worst" thing that's ever happened has been club members asking me what it was for. As soon as I explained what it meant, zero issues.
Simple respect solves so many issues....
Truth
The dominant club in the area was actually really friendly. Just mind your own business, and keep your nose out of theirs.
people die every year trying to get pictures with the bison in Yellowstone....people want something to post or tell their friends. Clubs that "advertise" invite this behavior.
So like a gang but with beards, bikes and a lot of leather?
Just let them sell meth to the kids and you will be fine
@@naveda08 more like a brotherhood. Something most people don't understand.
Can’t speak for anyone but me , I’m not a rider , but I’ve been acquainted with a few “ bikers “ over the years , all of em were great guys, course , I didn’t try to get in their business , we swapped some tales , but I mostly listened and enjoyed my evenings .
I was a truck driver. I had a dangerous stop in downtown Cleveland Ohio. Bad neigborhood . It was about 1 am . Hells Angels saw me go through the gate. I was alone. The store was closed. So i drove around to the back door . I kept hearing them go back and forth in front of the store . I thought uh oh . I was nervous . Absolutely wrong thought. As soon as i pulled back around and locked the gate. As soon as I got back in my truck. And they knew I was ok. One kinda waved . And they were gone. I will never forget that night. And i will never forget the Hells Angels. That was 1991 . I have so much respect for those men . Thankyou .
I live in Cleveland. You should see it now. Crazy!!
@@TheLisaGate I bet. I used to go to some bars in Cleveland. Scranton Tavern , 71 bar. Juniors Comet on west 25. Not too many problems. Bet there are problems now. And WMMS had the best music. Not so much now . Hail to the good old days. Please be careful and take care of yourself. It is crazy all over anymore. 🌹❤️👍
@@George-zi5if thank you for the kind words. Yea. I only travel close to downtown first thing in the morning. I avoid it at all costs after 12 p.m. I listen to WMMS. It’s still decent. Thank you for being a trucker. My uncle is also a trucker. Thanks also for the kind words. Have a good one!
My experience goes like this...''Don't come around them acting all Billy Bad-A$$ Biker''. That shit won't fly. Just be respectful. Having said that, here is my encounter...15 odd years back, there was a run out in California called The Redwood Run. My first time out there (I rode alone from Kansas), I had no idea the overall layout of the place. I found a spot and set up camp. Turns out it was across from the HA's camp area. As I started pondering my choice of sites, a couple from the club wandered into my campsite. My first thought was ''Oh s**t, I F'd up''. Well, they start the conversation ''Kansas plates? Holy s**y dude, you put some miles in. Did you ride alone? What was the route you took?'' Well, as things went along in a conversation you would expect from a couple of road dogs meeting up at some stop, friends were made. As the weekend progressed, they'd swing by for a drink, some chatting, enjoy some shade, just good times. Well, as it sometimes happens, you run out of ice for your whiskey, and I made mention that I just ran out. One of the guys looked at me and said, ''I got a cooler over there, help yourself''. I was in shock and said ''Shit, I go in there and I'lll get my ass kicked''. They laughed and told me not to worry. There were enough that new of me there that I'd be fine. (He was right). I spent the next handful of years camping in the same spot. Got along with the crew pretty good. Mornings found me being invited over to their camp for breakfast, afternoons were some great conversations while hiding from the sun, and evenings brought the bands and parties. Some very enjoyable times spent with them folks. Their hospitality just blew my mind. On one of my trips out there, I had swung up thru Oregon and Washington State before heading down the coast. I'd spent the first half the day playing leap frog with a different club. A couple simple howdy's along the way at different scenic stops. We ended up at the same gas stop at one point, and finally got to chatting. Again, ''Kansas Plates?''. And the standard road questions started rolling. Next thing I knew when it was time to roll, ''Yo, Kansas, feel free to grab a spot in the pack''. Yeah, respect and just being decent can go a long way. Well, I've rambled enough.... just mind your manners and things will sort themselves out. You just might end up with some good friends/contacts down the road.
Perfectly put.
I usually scroll by a long winded comment, not this time. Good story🤘
😂 nobody reading that
@@jodiehighroller9820, my sincerest apologies if more than 3 words messes up your day.
You live in a fantasy, I can bet none of that BS is true
I love watching the so called dominant clubs squirm when LE clubs do what they want and laugh at them. That's the way it should be for everyone who rides, this is America and nobody needs a group of road dictators
LE Makes who squirm.? Your a clown cop
@ROADglide.John.-hs9vy agreed.
I may be mistaken but from what I’ve gathered from my handful of Sturgis rallies, is that during the rally there’s not much, if any, “business” conducted during that time. Everyone’s there to just have a good time.
This cracks me up. One minute he says there is nothing to worry about, then he's talking about the dominant club's territory, getting grilled by prospects, and what not to wear. This is why many people do not like the culture, or the people in it. The vast majority of bikers are good Americans, and not prone to senseless violence. No one should have to fear being approached at a gas station and intimidated because of the wrong-colored shirt.
Hi… I’m the “he.” Maybe you’re just fragile?
Maybe you're just an A hole? I have personally witnessed people get beat up by "club members"' before you were born. You wouldn't say I was fragile in person. Be safe.@@ProfessionalMonkey
I had an encounter with said club at a gas station on I-90,extremely great guys and blocked the gas pumps so me and my buddy could fuel up at the same time. Told us to be safe and ride hard. I know that encounter could’ve went differently had we been wearing a cut of any kind.
I have never heard anyone express this concern at any rally ever. In fact, for the most part, 98% of bikers don’t care about MC’s anymore than they care about us……
“Nothin to…that’s a huge lizard!” LMAO. As a fellow S Florida rider, I can relate. 😂
I’ve never had issues by following three simple rules of thumb: steer clear, be respectful, and stay away from the prospects.
I’m not saying I’ve been in the club scene a bunch, but the times I have been around clubs at an event they always seem to just hang out with each other and mind their own business.
Judge says im not supposed to be seen associating with "known undesirables" so I'll stay home this time..
Im not a big fan of the dominate club around me, but ive learned please, thank you, excuse me and sorry go along way. But usually when they roll up i roll out cause there gonna be drama
That's a good way to live, it makes life easier.
Wait ✋️ your meaning to tell me there are motorcycle clubs @ Sturgis who'd have ever thought 🤔 Keep up the good work Monk I couldn't help but, comment when I seen the notification
dude that was no lizard, that was a gator
Made it to Sturgis one time. Rode in from Longmont, CO on an 80/80 Lowrider with my wife and a tent. We camped in City Park and had a great time. I believe that was the last year anyone was allowed to camp in City Park. Lots of beer was consumed, burnouts and catch the hotdog were popular. And there were a couple nude beauty contests conducted on top of school buses. and a few shots were fired late at night. There was no police presence in the park that I could see. It wasn't so commercialized then. I think I would not like it so much now.
Club members are just human beings and the majority of them are pretty darn good people. Just don't play stupid games with them because you just might win a stupid prize.
Exactly.
Play stupid games in Sturgis and You'll figure out the meaning to F$@k around and Find out real quick
That's any place.
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Oh no … it’s the Black Widows 😂😂😂 right turn Clyde!!!
Great video on club life at sturgis. I’ve never been but will be going next year.
It's better to be invisible at all times.
And this isn't due to any sort of fear factors. It's the concept of design.
Grey Man
18 years living in Rapid City just down the road, 22 times at the rally. Best time yet from all the events across the country. Although there ARE incidents, usually happens between some members of different clubs. Limited to each other and not really involving others. Once I was doing a little extra work during the rally driving a shuttle bus to the chip. Dammn good money actually, used to make about 10k in the week and a little more. During my last trip, 2 guys did get into it and one slammed a knife into the others neck, tons of blood but I do believe he seriously was being an arsehole and while I have to say he brought it upon himself. Back in FL now, damn I Miss the black hills.
Since you live in Rapid City, maybe you can answer a question for me? I was out at Sturgis twice in '05 and '07 and have friends in Sioux Falls ans Custer. The guy in the video says the Angels are the dominant club in Sturgis. I was under the impression that the Bandidos were the dominant club in South Dakota. Is this not true?
@@briansauer6695 To be accurate I USED to live there been gone but have been back for a few rallys and holidays. Angels own property of a campground, a bar and a few more ventures. Don't forget the oldest and the official club who started it all and still roll, Jack Pine Gypsys (Gypsies?). Many clubs have presence during the rally, some have gotten into issues like shootouts and fights but not every club every year. Then Bandidos are like "another' club during the rally but at any other time of year I would say they have the biggest presence. I swear though, I rode 5 or 6 days a week and usually never even saw colors.
@@davidmount9117 Thanks for clarifying. The two times I'd been out there, I did see representation of many of the large 1%er clubs there. Never saw Mongols or Pagans there, but I don't think they were expanding like they have in the last few years since I was there.
Back in the day, had a lot of contact with The Vigilantes in Detroit which were the equal to Hells Angels in CA. Yeah, they didn't take any BS but also a great group. This was back in 70s. You did not screw them over but generally good guys. I remember once when waitressing had to pull double shift in smaller restaurant and was working when the bars let out. A group of them came in and started throwing the plastic ash trays around and breaking them. I was so tired by then I wasn't in the mood so I told their arses off! Didn't care! They laughed a bit, knocked of the nonsense and all left me great tips! They knew they were f'n around and I called them on it. Many of my best friends were bikers. You knew they had your back. Don't screw them over and you don't have problems!
Simple solution.... If you are spooked or uneasy with being surrounded by a bunch of guys wearing there cuts. Simply tell them that you are uneasy and ask them to remove their cuts. You can even help them get those heavy jackets off. I guarantee, you will never have a problem after that. Just remember to be polite.
HA!!!!!! I freaking love this comment.
Hahaha- awesome!
Only time I was concerned about an MC was when a rival club showed up riding hard in the dominant club's turf. I skipped out of bike night early that day. Rode to the neighboring county and hit the bars downtown. Thirty minutes later the same MC rolled in in force. I struggled to convince my friends something was about to go down and it was time to leave. Most of the time colors were not an issue. This was different. Not long after that a certain someone on some 19th road was taken out by that same MC. Those who know, know.
sounds like a gang....
@@SixWheelsDownsin #1 , calling them a gang! No, no!!
@@Americanpatriot602 it's a sin? Being from Chicago, where there is actual gang activity, all i can say is this- these "clubs" act just like the gangs I see daily in chicago.
@@SixWheelsDown - and?? So what! I’ve lived in Chicago for a long time, even before these gangs were spread out here from fucking stupid California! all I’m saying is they are called an MC not MG!
@@SixWheelsDown right? If it walks like a gang, and talks like a gang and kills people like a gang....
Never met a better bunch men than at my local 81 184 (both on one property) officially made a hangaround last week and although it comes with ABSOLUTELY no status whatsoever they all treat me like I have good status.
Through life habits I said “how ya doing brother?” to a friend there and quickly apologized and corrected. He just laughed and said he made that mistake a lot and no one’s gonna get pissed over little mistakes
Your right! Glad to see you are getting this out in open. Sturgis SD. Is a great place for all to enjoy. Also most places have no color,s and 1 percent club,s honor that!. I see why you're not a club member anymore...Dam!
I'm president of a CMA (Christian Motorcyclists Association) chapter. We attend all the big events, and you'll see us manning tables handing out cold water and goodies, wearing our vests with single backpatches (we don't have three piece/ rockers). Our organization is welcomed even in areas where there are dominant clubs because we don't step on toes, we treat everyone with respect, and we help out where we can. I've had 1%s roll up on me while I'm riding to see what was up, but they see the patch, give me two fingers down, and either blast on by, or sometimes just cruise along. Had a few ask me to bless their bikes or pray with them at a fuel stop or scenic turnout. Don't believe the hype, but don't be stupid.
I ask my CMA President about HA have a problem with us. He said they would do anything for us if needed.
love your insight..thanks..good stuff and well presented...
This makes complete sense, because MC clubs don't want negative attention. Biker rallies have been shut down because clubs let the chain off the sprocket (Laughlin NV) and no one wants to be the reason Sturgis or Hollister or any other rally gets shuttered. The MC's are there to have a good time, like everybody else, and outstanding "club biz" dragged into the public eye harshes everyone's buzz.
When I went to prison I met a guy who was in a support club. I said a what? He got beat up!
Leave them alone....they will leave you alone!
Don't go looking for trouble, and trouble won't look for you. I have never had any trouble with any club members in many years or sturgis visits. Show respect, and don't have an attitude, and you will be treated the same. Hoping to have a beer with you on Saturday at the iron horse!
There's a lot of awesome folks that go to Sturgis and they're there to enjoy themselves just like you are... give the same respect you would want
Liking the new vroom vroom intro. Did not know you left the organization that shall not be named. Know you were very passionate about it. Sorry to hear.
It will be ok, and we might be back someday.
And this is why I no longer ride or wish to join anything or wish to attend any rallies. I get it, and I respect it, and I won't step on toes, but I think it's silly and don't want anything to do with it. Too many rules for people who call themselves "outlaws". And yeah, it can differ from chapter to chapter, club to club, but why bother? I got more to live for than a bike. I'm not dying over a stupid vest because someone thinks I disrespected them. More bikes means more awareness means more safety, but egos always ruin everything. But because of this, I parked my ride and run on all fours now. For those who still ride, stay up on 2.
You sound scared to me. Scared of something that has nothing to do with you.
@@Crazychic1117 OK. Cool opinion bro. Feel better?
I had a friend that worked for Harley Davidson. They would go to the rallies at Sturgis. They told him being there was all cool but be aware of where you are and stay out of the Bandido's camp.
Which Bandido?
Cut that tag out the hat 😂😂 love the channel. Watch every video
There are so many great places to ride in our country. It seems that the main event at Sturgis is meeting up with friends from all over.
there is a well known MC in my area on the east coast, they attend most of the bike nights, they don’t f&ck with people at all, don’t act a fool and stare at them and say dumb shit, you’ll be fine 😂
Didnt know you left your organization.
You left your organization 😮 thank you for all the good you've done while apart of it
Thanks. It might not be forever. With the wife's job centering on the same sort of cases it became a bit much so we stepped away.
Will be watching as I enjoy your vids. To expensive for me these days. Have a good safe rally.
You are absolutely right a certain club will ask you too remove your vest or colors as you put it ,the worst thing is to back down and do as they say it happened to me and a group I was with we explained our buisness and were left alone.
When you were a member?
Did you leave your organization?
Yep.
@@ProfessionalMonkey that must've been a tough decision. Too time consuming between work and the channel I assume?
All the years I have gone I have never had a problem wearing my Blue knights colors.
Be respectful!
Keep the rubber on the road and safe travels.
Your an LE club.
Great advice but I wanted to see the huge lizard!
Monkey, going to Sturgis for the first time this year. Leaving on 7/30 from Dago. I thought I heard you say your old club ? If so enjoy you new chapter of life. See you up there
Yes sir!
I brought my Honda chopper and they look down on u😮😮
That's weird. Must have been just those guys. I rolled into a gas station and there was a pack of roughly 20 or so of em. I own a Honda Rebel 500. I am a new rider and chose that bike to start out on because it is lighter and easier to control for me and the price point was great incase I ever dropped the bike, was cheaper to repair. I also appreciated the riding position and height. I very obviously looked like a newbie and a couple of em strolled up and asked about my bike and why I chose it. I gave em my reasons why and they smiled and told me I had made the right choice for myself. I guess they respected the fact I did some research before buying a bike and knew exactly what I needed for my situation. They did razz me a little about my reflective vest I wore over my jacket. Something we were encouraged to do by the driving school. I laughed and agreed it did look a bit silly. They gave me some great tips, then went on their way. So my interaction with them was a very positive one.
2023 Sturgis was a blast. We went into T shirt shop and on the way out there was this big burly guy sitting in a chair receiving a neck/shoulder massage from a girl that was trying to sell a particular type of gizmo. Our eyes met and I said to him: "Does that feel as good as it looks?". He just looked at me and responded: "I'm sportin a chubster". We both just chuckled. Fast forward 45 minutes. We had parked up by the cop shop and were ready to put our purchases into our saddle bags and I look over at the house right at the foot of the police station. (The dominant club was all over this abode). Who do I see there? This big burly guy again. Our eyes met and in an instant he held up his index finger motioning just a minute, he grabbed an extra beer, headed my way, handed it to me and we started talking. We talked like we'd known one another twenty years while consuming a couple of libations. That being said, was it fun? Yes. Was it enlightening? Yes. Did I feel threatened? In no way, shape, or form. People are people, and as long as you have a commonality, there are no issues and trust me on this one, those boys know how to party.
Absolutely. I have genuinely liked the vast majority of 1%ers I have met.
I've been road riding since I was 14 years old. Raised in Jacksonville Florida and there was one predominant club in the area ("Sin City") and several "support clubs".
I've never had any negative interactions with any of them. If you aren't "affiliated" with a club and handle yourself with respect, you can hang out with them in public areas all you want.
Been here 35 years..never heard of Sin City...Outlaws, Black Pistons, Gorillas, Locals, Iron Order, Outcast, Black Skulls, then the regular stuff like American Legion, RAs, etc ...Im also not into any of that either
I was in JAX 40 plus years ago. Never heard of Sin City MC, either. I frequented Howards G String where the Outlaws were prominent. There was a club near a bar called Manapaders on University. Heck, I got my tattoos from Eric Inksmith when he was working from his house in Brunswick GA. As for Sturges the 81 have their own set up and parking.
Great Video! Didn't know you left the organization that shall not be named, hope all is good.
Another vid with great content. I am glad to see that some members of certain riding groups are riding bikes other than HD. Even a certain notable departed leader (RIP) of a well-known group owned and rode a Victory. HD, Inc ain't what it used to be. (Huge understatement)
Will we ever see club members riding BMW Boxer R18s? One can wait and wonder....
victory is american made aren't they
@@perryroberts4353 What they are is out of business.
@@scarharting5577 Because Indian came back with some nice bikes
@@perryroberts4353 Polaris owned the Victory brand; with Arlen and Cory Ness as design consultants, they put out some sweet looking rides. Then Polaris bought the Indian marque, and decided it didn't need two competing brands. Victory lost that coin toss, but if you look at the current Indian designs, they still have a lot of the Ness flavor that put Victory on the map.
(Personally, my fave Indian designs were the ones out of Gilroy CA, they had the swoopy 40's art deco look of the originals.)
Great advice. The only time I've heard of shit going sideways with 'the boys' at Sturgis....was some years back when a club from ILL. came rumblin in. They don't wear a diamond, but like to act like they do. They wanted to hang out with the big dogs, get loud, act tough, blah blah. But, there's this thing called 'stealing thunder'. Some people don't like when you come into their 'backyard' and act like you live there. Without getting into details, they were invited to go resume the party elsewhere. That was the last time they went as a club. Regardless of what that patch means to you, it doesn't mean shit to them.
I remember that weren’t they from Springfield and it didn’t turn out very well for them!!!😩😩
I'm with the CVMA (Combat Vets Motorcycle Association and we usually never have any issues with any clubs. There are times where there is a no fly zone issued so we will take our cuts off out of respect to whichever local clubs in that area.
what if i have a vest that is completely without any patches on the back?
Congrats on mrs monkeys article in cycle source magazine you are doing great with the channel good to see you guys grow and get more subscribers bless you guys
Thanks so much
Every time you say three piece I think of KFC. Can I have a pic of a three piece on my cut with a patch for cole slaw and one for mashed potatoes? JK Respect!
😂😂
I’m glad I’m not alone in recognizing how unimportant all of this really is.
My wife is from Sturgis South Dakota and we lived up there for about 10 years.
Went to every rally from 92 well up into the 2000s on and off throughout the years.
Haven't been in a while and we miss it.
But one year we went into a bar and it was so packed it was standing room only.
Of course the clubs cannot wear or display their colors in the bar.
So these two guys that were sitting down offered my wife and I their seats and started buying us rounds.
After a couple hours of drinking and talking.
They had to head out they picked up their jackets and then we noticed that they were Hell's Angels.
They invited us out to the club to come out and hang out and party afterwards.
Of course we didn't go lol.
But some of the coolest guys you ever want to meet.
They look scary but they were cool.
Now I will say one year a local young farmer was harassing the club while they are on the road he was in a pickup truck Well let's just say he didn't make it very far down the road on i-90 before they caught up with him!
They didn't kill him but I guarantee you he showed respect from that day forward lol
Darn missed the premiere. See you at Sturgis!!!
Finally! I miss your videos about MC's. Good boys and girls who do a lot of great things in our "small towns"!
I could care less about MCs. I don’t mess with them if they don’t mess with me and I’m sure most of them are the same way. I wouldn’t wear my colors anyway. No point in it.
@1:05 "That's a huge lizard!" 🤣
I've been on poker runs with HA or other clubs in and around SF Bay Area and never had one bit of trouble. Live and let live with those guys and treat people with respect, and don't get mouthy or say stupid things and you'll be alright.
Same with Dallas/Fort Worth. Every toy run has a group of the dominant/support MC's showing up (and sometimes a few competing clubs). They're there for the same reasons as everyone else - to support the charity. After Waco, most MC's (and RC's) in the area know better than to flex when there's cops around, cos the cops down here do not care what your patch says, if they think you're fucking around, they will take you straight to 'find out'.
The only thing is . Motorcycle Clubs want you to respect them . Well they need to do the same . But most members i met from a MC have been very cool
Hey Dude,whats your view on scooters/mopeds,thinking of getting one,the idea of just twisting the handle and going seems very appealing😅,greetings from Ireland
Mind is better now' Thank You' and God Bless You' and Your Family🇺🇲
I did a camp out with the Banditos at Red Lodge, Montana once. I was prepared to be up partying all night and getting drunk and shit. Imagine my surprise when everyone in the Bandito Camp (except a few Lookouts) was in bed by 9-9:30pm. Camping with the Banditos was the best and quietest campout I have ever been on. Plus, some of those guys and gals can cook! BBQ sandwiches, steaks grilled to order, Yes, Liquor too, but nobody was hammering it. This group of Banditos is supposed to be one of the most dangerous biker groups around. Yet I saw they greeted many lone wolf riders by name and shook hands, pats on the back etc. Great group of Bikers. There were about 100 Banditos there and not a single problem that whole weekend.
I'm not in a club, I've been riding for 25 plus years. My experience with the major club in Houston, is they are pretty cool dudes. I think the thing to remember is show them respect and mind your business. There is a military club here that was confronted by this club and told to take their cut off or they were going to take them off for them. The military club tried to explain to them who they were, the didn't give a dam. Therefore I don't even own a vest much less one with a patch. I've been to Sturgis, don't remeber a lot of colors being flown
I have a question on colors, cuts, or all of that. I ride sometimes with a national group called Rolling Thunder non profit supporting Veterans. We can't even refer to ourselves as a club. I wear a vest with a large back patch "SUPPORT OUR TROOPS" with the service logos, with a top rocker NAVY and a bottom rocker RETIRED. Would something like this cause any issues ? Thanks
Nobody gives veterans trouble, but just my opinion, I would find a one piece patch that you like. Any three piece patch setup is imitating a club.
I doubt it they respect vets just like every other American. Thank you for your service.🇺🇲
Sturgis is a neutral ground. No clubs are to cause trouble. Or be bar from there. State inforcement enforcement. enforcement
HOW DARE YOU NOT SHOW US THE "HUGE LIZARD"
So I got a question: I have a jacket with a niche band symbol from the 90's and simple album cover outline embroidered onto my jacket, not a patch, no band name mentioned, no other patches on the back. I know it's possible to get approached anywhere, but if I wore it to Sturgis, would a simple google search of the band get me out of the magnifying glass, and/or what else should I be concerned about?
You got no rockers and it's a band patch, shouldn't be a problem.
This was a soft concern of mine. I'm just getting started riding and planned on wearing my old punk vest. It's not a rocker or anything literally just an old misfits shirt cut up and sewn onto a denim vest my grandfather gave me.
@@JustJoe_media the only thing clubs get upset about are patches with a central patch, top rocker name patch or bottom rocker territory patch. In Britain the territory patch is a side rocker. Black Label Society created a three piece patch and they did NOT like that. Motörhead had a two piece patch that was obviously a band patch and that was OK. The worst that will happen is they will make you take it off and you probably won't get it back. Don't wear anything pretending to be a 3 piece motorcycle patch and you'll be fine.
Why risk it?Don't wear it.
What threw me off is them Hells Angels pulling up to Sturgis playing rap music lolololol. Never in my life did I think Id see such a sight
Just be a normal person, as everyone should be = no problems. Spot on the prospects and sometimes the clubs operating under a major club is the problem, but again if your just minding your own business no biggie
I've been coming here since 1976. It's been neutral and, in my mind, still is, and i need no rockers to enjoy riding its actual awesome flying alone
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My old man wants to upgrade his sound system on his bike in sturgis.
Any vendor recommendations that won’t bend us over. lol
Fairing Exchange, hands down. Every other vendor will be 3 times the price, maybe a 10% better stereo. They will be at the Rally at Exit 55, in the vendor lot across from the giant one.
@@ProfessionalMonkey thanks boss! Hope you guys have a great time this year, ride safe.
I leave them alone. Want no part of the club scene.
That's the best way to avoid issues. They really don't care about us regular folk.
I was up there last year and saw HAs in shorts and foreign made bikes. Not exactly the same organization it use to be.
I’ve never seen that.
Wonder if the black & white has problems with the red & white down on main street.. or does the black & white just avoid Sturgis?
I've lived less than 30 minutes away for the last 30 years. I go up in the Black Hills and camp out, ride my dirt bike, stay away from as much of the 'posers' as I possibly can. LOL
The difference between poser and poseur-
Calling someone a poseur is an insult because it insinuates that the person is a liar, a sneak, or delusional. The word poseur is derived from the French, like the words raconteur and liqueur. A poser is someone who poses, like someone who is serving as a model for an artist or someone who is being photographed.
Maybe that's who he is avoiding? You know those gangs of models that roam the black hills.
@@ProfessionalMonkey No doubt they are the real threat. They are always going....vogue. LOL
I dont wear anything with writing on it. I never want the t-shirt.
I used to hang around older people and party. My brother had a friend we would go there and party. But this friend always had MC clubs at his house . The Drifters , Lost Souls and the Jaws of Satan. Never any problems. They all got along. They would pick on each other. But it was all in fun . Good times. I have not heard of any of them in years . Possibly patched over , I have no idea where they went . That was 48 years ago.
Shits so stupid. I was riding my 636 once minding my own business and some members of a club I won’t mention checked me because I had on a record label logo on the back of my jacket. This world sucks. Smh
One of these days I hope to go to Sturgis.. I’m not holding my breath though.. lol
That Harley sound in the intro is sooo intoxicating.. What cam is that?!?
We all have a dominant club in our territory and we mostly have a coalition or COC now. If you've been accepted by Coalition I'd wear your patch. Don't go being a tough guy or being disrespectful to ANYBODY because you could have a bad time. Be courteous to respectful to everyone and every club and you'll be fine
I've known as friends/coworkers, some very high level HA's in Vegas, even PeeWee gave me a couple of support stickers for my bike..I realize that is a double edge sword but it works as an anti-theft device. I work as a stagehand at the Buffalo Chip during the rally and can attest to their presence. My name is Bicycle Bob and I approved this message and come by the stage and say High!
Will do!
God bless all yall bikers
I ride a Hayabusa and a BMW R18 Roctane. I dont ride with anybody. I dont like any of you. I dont even wave. I want nothing to do with anyone, bike rider or not. I have a cat. Thats all i need for friends. I just want to ride.
South Park covered this very subject. LOL.
Cool video loved the content. Will you be seeing Shadetree Surgeon and Chey. Be safe and have fun
I haven't heard any thing from them. I bet they're a bit busy to mess with someone like me.
I have been watching your videos videos lately. Thank you. I went to the Harley 120 Anniversary and inadvertently found myself interacting for a very short period of time with 2 people that had 1% patches.
I’m newer to riding and wouldn’t have been aware of this part of the motorcycle culture. Thanks to your video (and DemonsRow), I was calm, respectful, and found it a pleasant and again short interaction and I quickly moved on. They were both nice. We were near the food and drink area.
They also seemed very respectful and were there to have a good time.
Thanks for the guidance.
Guess I was wrong…always thought this was red and yellow territory?
good advice really just be switched on, prospects! they are usually cool but opportunistic is how I would call them I have always been in a public place with them and just been cautious but respectful, here in Australia it is usually about the rebuttal of comments tactful but mostly on guard but cordial, polite and found conversations focused on bikes to be rewarding. Just my two cents, great video
Been there 6 times no issues just a bunch of people having a great time. Be safe be Courteous put two feet down at stop signs. There is a police presence everywhere. As an old saying goes if you can't handle your liquor this is bad place to find out. 😅