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EDC Fire: Zippo Butane Torch or Standard Wick??
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- Опубліковано 29 лип 2020
- EDC Fire: Zippo Butane Torch or Standard Wick??
If youre like me, you love the idea of going above and beyond bare minimum. For me, I consider the BIC lighter the Toyota Camry of the everyday carry world. Everyone has one, they work great, cheap, no complaints at all. But lets be honest here, some of us might want to upgrade from basic, bare bones and add alittle bit of flare to our pockets. Ive been a huge fan of zippos for well over 20 years. The look, feel, sound, design is just outstanding to me. However, Ive always been annoyed with one thing. In the video, I discuss the solution to that problem.
Zippo I used in this video was an all Brass, Armor version of your standard zippo lighter:
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The Zippo brand butane, dual torch insert I used in this video:
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#EDC
#ZippoLighter
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#PalmettoPrepared
I carry a butane torch on my Firehawk. Butane is excellent in cold environments especially in ice situations for melting ice of things like paddle locks,etc. And it's unmatched for fire starting speed and ability in adverse situations. That and a little inner tube..🔥🔥🔥
Thank you for the Zippo info..i didn't know they made a butane insert..i should get out more and quit being a backwoods hick lol.
Still praying for you and yours my friend.
God bless you and yours and stay safe
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Excellent point. Im in a super warm climate so it never at the forefront of my mind but in colder climates that could be what really makes the difference. And thank you my friend, I really appreciate that
They do a butane insert eith soft flame, a single jet insert and also a double jet insert. They even do a pipe insert for lighting pipes (hole on side not the top for the flame). Also they do rubber caps for normal zippos to stop fuel evaporation.
My youngest son is a big zippo fan. He found my Dad's collection of lighters that I had packed away and was hooked.
That was me as a kid. Ive always loved them
Me too fan zippo
Grandads are a bad influence. I never met mine but I remember being fascinated in his tobacco pipe mom and dad had to hide it. Now years later i want a pipe. Just something cool about old timey nick knacks
@@liamnicholls7106
Literally all I wanted in my grandpa's will was his pipes.
That smell evokes such strong memories of our time together.
Decades after he left this world, I still often smell one and am instantly transported to another place and time.
They do actually make a different butane style insert I bought last week. It's just like a regular zippo using the flint wheel to spark, and gives off a yellow flame just like a bic lighter. This one is my personal favorite.
@@juru6887zippo soft flame butane insert.
I’ve purchased all of their inserts. The butane ones are absolutely incredible! I don’t even smoke; I just love carrying a lighter with me (and a leatherman). I prefer the butane ones over the traditional wicking lighters because the lighter fluid is messy and can stain the inside of the case. And like you said, the fluid evaporates and the lighter won’t work when you need it to. But with butane this thing is next level amazing. Great video!
I love the smell of the zippo lighter‘s!
Guilty pleasure for sure 😂
This makes me want a cigarette so bad, it’s been 6 years, lol. My favorite favorite thing was to play with my Zippo, there’s something about that sound! Smart thinking Zippo 🏆 super smart upgrade.
DONT DO IT!!! It not worth it. Costs too much to smoke these days. But never quit the zippo. They rock
Palmetto Prepared lol, I won’t. 🚬
✅ I have several standard Zippo lighters... I switched a few to the butane inserts...I've found them to be quite handy for lighting damp tinder to melting silver solder for wire to wire connections and the bonus is I don't have to worry about the standard fluid leaking out into my pack or pocket.
Anthony, very good improvement on a time tested design, I got a lighter fluid burn on my leg from over filling one and putting it in my pocket years ago , great review, thanks for sharing, stay safe, God bless !
Luckily i only did that to my side table. Never in my pocket. That had to suck. Thanks Michael
I bought the butane insert a few weeks ago and its excellent in terms of quality. But I noticed that the torch flame burns the cigarette at a much higher temperature than a soft flame and the cigarette doesn't taste and feel the same. So I switched back to the standard insert. I'll keep the butane insert though for other stuff.
I carry a ferro rod in my pockets and BICs in the back pack. i was sent a small Ronson. i ave to experiment with it. Good arguments for the Zippo
I found a Ronson metal detecting a few months ago. Was very interested since it was stamped British Empire Hong Kong.
BICs rock and you can never go wrong with a ferro rod. Just a pain if everything is wet
@@HuplesCat yep thats the one
This is an old video, relatively speaking. Zippo now makes a soft flame butane insert that also uses flints for ignition.
I know because I just bought one the other day.
My only complaint with it is, like current Bic lighters, you can't adjust the flame.
I prefer this to a Bic, I weld sometimes and Bic style butane lighters have had welders forget they had the lighter in a front pocket, hot metal burned through the pants and plastic butane tank and exploded, resulting in a bad injury.
Very unlikely this will occur with the Zippo.
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Great stuff. I also love zippo but hate the kerosene fuel. I might just have to pull the trigger on this
Its really the best of both worlds. Greatness of the zippo without the liquid fuel problem. The one you showed a few months ago looks just as good though
That is cool, I used to carry zippos . Currently I carry Bic with a bunch of Gorilla tape wrapped around it. Very good for a multitude of tasks.
I did something similar for years. I used regular duct tape though. People always got amazed at how well duct tape burns when I showed them
@@PalmettoPrepared yeah, it’s definitely great for that!
Yes butane is better as it seals the gas inside and offers a clean fire, butane inserts are also much cleaner for Zippo brand lighters as it doesn't create rust on the insert or case. I just ordered Zippo Yellow flame as I don't like the high butane cost of torch. Once I get it I'll have a butane, arc, and original zippo inserts all with cases so I can use all energy sources as fuel.
Excellent video, I just ordered the Thunderbird pipe insert as I love the look of lighting my pipes with a zippo but like you mentioned not being a cigarette smoker I don't use it every day and would constantly run out of fluid if I had the standard zippo pipe insert.
Been using Zippos off and on for decades, when I saw the butane inserts I bought one. Personally I like it better than the old school lighter fluid. I smoke cigars and it gets 'em going with the quickness.
I had a matte back zippo as a teenager. I flipped it open, and the lid flipped right off. Pin fell out. Who knows when. I knew I could send it in and replaced it for free. But again. Kid. Bought another one. Say. In 2015(?) plain silver from walmart.Started using it the last few months. I bought both butane knserts. So far, I've liked the soft flame butane insert.
I got the single flame butane insert, LOVE IT!!!!
A metal clipper is my every day lighter, there's few situations in which anything else is required. I have a souffle torch and some other stuff in my backpack but the clipper is sturdy, reliable and refillable, doesn't even have to be metal, the nylon ones are good enough!
I’m looking for a butane torch where the ignition for the flame doesn’t stop working after 200 times.
Great video ... Didn't know about this new feature. I always liked that zippos fit well into the watch pocket. Being a non smoker also I think this may settle the problem of evaporation of fuel worry.
Have you ever heard of IMCO lighter probably not it is a commonwealth thing it is a auzzy made lighter - it has a better design that prevents fuel evap. better. Doesn't fit in the watch pocket as well as the zippo.
Ah Ha! So im not the only one that puts their zippo in that 5th pocket. I knew i couldnt be the only one. It fits so perfectly. Ive never heard of the IMCO, but being a nonsmoker i guess i just stick with whats familiar
@@PalmettoPrepared we have both here zippo more popular because of marketing .. I looked you can find them on Amazon. I also found this comparative video.
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@@PalmettoPrepared "5th pocket" another little difference - watchpocket because around here workmen used it for their "pocket watch" back in the day.
@@glen1arthur hey ive seen one of those before. Not common around here at all but ive seen one before. Maybe while I was deployed
I've got the single torch insert since I rarely use lighters but the only unfortunate thing is I have to have the flame turned all the way up in order for it to work. Just sucks since I go through fuel quicker. Not sure if the reason it only works on the highest setting is because of my climate but kinda annoying.
Kind of want a soft flame option on butane insert.
You Killed my father, prepare to die! 😂 we used to put a couple flints in the cotton at the bottom. Cheers!
You cant go wrong with a Princess Bride reference. Their flints last pretty long. Yall must of been goin nuts on the wheel lol
Winter is coming when you fill your liter fluid insert cut a corner of a freezer bag over the bottom of the insert you will save fluid and under
32 degrees F lighter fluid works best and windproof the plastic bag trick and repack with cotton bacon !!!
The plastic bag trick , after you fill yout insert take the corner of a frezer bag and place it over the felt pad then place it in the Zippo case this helps fuel econemy a lot or the double torch single torch yellow flame or pipe lighter yellow flame electric ark ! Mike the Zippo Fanatic 77 Outdoors told me this trick !!!
Do you find the Zippo claim of 60 lights at 5 seconds to be fairly accurate?
my big gripe with the butane inserts is that they use a plastic piece under the cam, where the regular zippo ones use a steel piece. the plastic can wear and not make as positive of a snap. it also kind of tells me that it’s more disposable than a normal zippo insert which is a shame
Good stuff , Anthony. Doing a video later. What member to we forget SHFT.
Thanks Uncle Al
Jet lighter is superior for reliability........I lost mine, then found it 1 YEAR later in my car, fired right up.......Bic was dead, so was Zippo. I own a lot of lighters for cigar smoking, and Butane Jet is the only one still standing.
Nice man. Cant say im a huge fan of zippos...had too man cheap ones dump fuel in my pocket. I do like the new one though. My wife got me a usb rechargeable lighter that thing is sweet.
Its cool, use whatever works best for you. Just as long as youre always carrying some form of fire. I love the zippo, have for years. But hate the fuel problem. I just got excited there was another option
Strange that Zippo is not making a single soft flame insert on butane which looks identical to the standard insert. Personally I ordered a thunderbird vector soft flame insert with flint-wheel ignition. Would be nice if Zippo had something like this for sale.
Agreed. Once zippo puts one out, im buying it up to try.
A bic won't work when wet. Will the zippo butane?
Nice, but as a non smoker I like the function of the flame keeping to burn. This doesn't do that. You have to keep the button pressed.
I think the classic is better, you can estimate how much fuel you got left by smell and moisture in the insert. I carry a zippo and a cheap torch lighter.
And in canada a bic wont work outside in winter. A zippo is almost a must
True. Butane hates cold temps
You can use the cotton as tinder to start a fire in emergencies.
Good point
This lighter fluid evaporation issue, would indeed be a huge drawback. Otherwise its a great system ever invented
Agreed. If the fluid wouldn't evaporate, I wouldn't use any other system
I don't know if you done your Recent research but they got an insert that does both soft and torch
I do like the traditional style but it's fuel lose is my problem. I don't smoke but I want one to carry if I need one but I do like the zippo instead
Evaporate like crazzy ..i try to put rubber tire around ..it slows proces but soon fuel is gone
Love the name tag.
Such a good movie
Have both and love both
They've got the soft flame now. Just ordered one
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I’ve never had good luck with auto lighters over a match
Princess bride!👍
I do have a butane for my cigar I like
Use what your comfortable with. I just hope everyone is carrying some form of fire starter in their pocket. This thing has helped me immensely as it gets so hot so fast, things like cardboard stand no chance
Palmetto Prepared
I’ve been a welder for too long to carry any fire starting material in my pocket(s)
@@Fordgroup00 good thinkin. Im not a welder so the thought never crossed my mind
Get the thunderbird dual flame butane insert. It has both a hard and soft flame
They're is a butaine soft flame version available
Yep. Did a review on it. It works. But it's not my favorite
light it 60 times at the lowest flame setting?
actually u need to adjust setting few times while using the lighter:
1) from lowest when lighter has just been refilled and tank is close to full.
2) to the highest setting when tanks is close to empty.
and that limiter should be removed or readjusted to make lighter functional when there is less the 50% fuel left in tank.
Thank You for the video. Could we get the butane insert and replace it for regular zippo casing? Even we buy a new zippo, we need to purchase the butane insert separately? How frequent do you need to change the fint?
How you mentioned the need to refill compared to how much you use it, I don't think they were meant for non smokers lol smokers use em often so expect to refill it
would be nice if they made a bic esque insert
Wish they had a soft flame version I would buy one instantly
They do. Trust me it's not worth it
I suggest u buy light yellow insert because saves gas and doesn't oderless. It's worth it for me because I've used it
The butane lighter maintenance is easier than the original ? Did we need to recharge it only without changing anything ??
I just used the link, thanks for info.
It's so frustrating because all zippo has to do is seal their inserts at the bottom and add a tight-fitting snuffer to the lid. Rhonson does both of those things and also uses an internal hinge which is much sleeker and more stable than Zippo's external hinge but I can only find their butane versions of the improved zippo design
As I know, the most of leakage is from the wick.
Kind of sounds like racking a round into the chamber.
You know what, it kinda does
Very well done. Well written
Never knew those existed.
The vector thunderbird has been out for a few years as an insert but the zippo version just dropped at the beginning of 2020. So its relatively still pretty new. Figured i could be a Guinea pig for everyone else. So far Im pleased with it
Palmetto Prepared zippo has just a giant flint too. Think of a large wheel and flint on the zippo without the chimney.
@@ModernRefugee that I did not know. Good deal
@@ModernRefugee yep I always scavenge the flints and springs
How is the reliability on these double torch inserts?
Could be better if we're being honest. Sometimes it takes 2 clicks to light, other times it takes 5. Rarely comes on first strike unless it's hot outside
can you please tell me if they are windproof seeing as bic lighters always blow out please reply thanksss
They aren't wind proof but they would be somewhat wind resistant. They light when bics won't but can be blown out without much force
@@PalmettoPrepared thanks
you can buy a thunderbird insert soft flame
Yep. Just hoping zippo comes out with their own version sooner rather than later
I need to get a good Butane torch
Its already paid for itself having to make a quick solder repair
Hello, I'm thinking of buying, but I'm undecided between the single and the double.. What do you recommend?
I prefer the dual as i use this more for general farm use. I would suppose it all depends on what you plan on using it for. The dual does everything i need it to very quickly so im partial to it
I'm going with butane baby!
Excellent choice
Hello. There isn't any information about this online - are you able to blow out the flame jets of the Zippo buthane version?
Yes you can. The flame is just as fragile as a regular zippo
But it doesn't feels like a zippo anymore
Zippo to me is the best lighter for anyone
What the heck!? Come on! This is a prepping channel so it better be two sticks you rub together for hours and die of hypothermia before you get your fire!
Good video. I like those lighters myself. There is one drawback I have had with the butane ones is if I leave it in the car by accident in the hot summer I have had it leak out the gas. So, just don't leave it in your car! ;-) This looks better made though so maybe it could handle the heat better.
I keep a firesteel in my wallet though in case of total disaster.
It always stays in my fifth pocket so hopefully thatll never happen but butane and over 120 heat dont mix. Bad juju leaving that in your car in the desert. Redundancies matter so good on you for the fire steel
The main problem of insert is the 2ys warranty vs life time..
I bought a zippo just to have Last weekend. I filled it . 1 week 3 days later it's empty so I bought the zippo torch insert
$ 14.95 for insert
$ 6.95 shipping to Texas that was kinda steep
Well said man
I like it. very cool
Thank you my friend. Makes a great quick soldering tool too lol. Ask me how i know that
@@PalmettoPrepared I have an idea of how you may know that. what did you "weld" hope all is well your way, saw the little one on here, she still doing good? still praying for y'all.
@@hardymarshfarm7843 loose wire on my blower. The switch was lose, changed out the terminal. Quick solder called it a day. Little one is doin just fine right now. Had some steps back last week but hopefully all that is behind us
If you did not use it how long days it lasts? Is it leaking the gas in time?
I cant speak to that as i do use it just not often as I dont smoke. Have gone a month between refills which is leaps and bounds better than a regular fluid zippo
l miss my zippo
I love mine. The sound, the look, just love it
Is there any way to convert it to single torch...?
Not reliably. They do make a single torch version
Non smokers........ pffft.
Lmao its always funny when a nonsmoker has a light for a smoker. Theyre always like what the eff
did you notice I posted that link.
glen1arthur negative. I will go look
glen1arthur where?
@@CorsairTrainers Reeds video on silver and gold.
here
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How long does one gas charge last?
Depends on how long you hold down the button but average as per zippo is 40-50 strikes
Depends on how long you hold down the button but average as per zippo is 40-50 strikes
Obviously
you killed my father prepare to die.....good zippo, must have....always always reminds me of my dad for sure. I can smell the butane even thinking about it. I love Zippo (I have both regular and torch) plus their hand warmers are a basic of my kits. One can buy a very good Zippo off ebay for pennies on the dollar....great video, good to touch base on things like this.
Yep, their handwarmer rocks for when im hunting. Its a must have for the trigger finger sensitivity. I was shocked how cheap Zippos were on amazon. I can only imagine how cheap they are on ebay. Figured it would be a good idea to show a good find I didnt even know existed until a few months ago. Havent seen many people talk about it so I thought id make a good Guinea pig
I smoke bud that’s it and go through a full bic every 3 days 😂
wtf only 60 times ? lol that only last me 3 days
Typical American consumer. Wow I bought something new that I didn't know I need. I keep buying stuff. I can't stop buying stuff. Out with the old thing that was the best thing that isn't anymore. Please tell me where I can buy more new stuff I don't need. I can't fill this big empty hole in my pathetic life.
Butane insert, then it's not a zippo anymore salesman. Just put the zippo in a mini zip lock bag. You can also top off the fuel a few times a week if your that worried about it. Zippo lighters are made of metal. They are tough and resilient and dependable. They have been around a long time and used by soldiers for many years. Electronic butane style lighters are prone to breaking. They have plastic parts. The electronic parts are prone to breaking. Not dependable in a survival situation in extreme weather situations either. Zippos are still around after all these years for a good reason.
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I just got of those butane inserts an it's a piece of junk from china 👎
I live in mexico and i love zippos, i refuse to buy a knockoff, i only buy the original made in america products. In mexico they cost more but theyre worth every cent i use it every single day!
Hope you are doing well Mexico looks amazing from what I have seen online hope to one day travel there and ride my bmx bike to sight see and eat the food.