15:17 Funny thing to mention: When asked if Harry's eyes being blue would be an issue, J.K. told the movie people (idr who exactly it was) that it's no problem, it's just important that later on his mother would have the same colored eyes. They casted a brown eyed girl lmao.
That’s from the 2011 conversation between her and Steve Kloves. I just finished watching that and I’m wondering if UA-cam is showing me your comment because of that… 🤖 lol
Ron in the movies is very sad to watch sometimes. In the books, it is precisely rons character that helps hermione ground herself and take action when needed, even if it is against the rules sometimes, while hermiones character helps ron think before acting in certain scenarios, and lets him grow emotionally (e.g. the topic of houseelves). That is why they match so well, but need to work on their relationship. But that makes a good, realistic relationship.
Ron was Harry's Sam in the books. The film makers didn't need to dumb down Ron to make Hermione a girl boss. She was one in the books. It just was more balanced.
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the most egregious change, the attack on the Burrow in half-blood prince. It literally had no reason to exist when they could’ve used that time to show Voldemort asking for a job at hogwarts
@@occheermommy agree, but I was thinking of one of my favorite bit of the book in contrast to my most hated scene in the movie. I don’t mind Bella being at the hogwarts battle, even though nothing suggested Voldemort wanted anyone from the Malfoy family outside of Draco to be there to kill Dumbledore. That’s another thing that pisses me off when people justify Delphine’s existence in the cursed child. People are just saying that because Helena was pregnant during filming. Even though Bellatrix was just as afraid of Voldemort as the others, even to the point of her reaction of terror at both the ministry, and in Malfoy manor when she saw Harry Ron and Hermione had the sword. As much as I loved the movies when they were coming out, I can’t enjoy them anymore because of things they cut. And that’s why I consider the play and movies to be a separate canon from the books. Because everytime I think about them, I feel like I’m bout to have an aneurism
@@tgiacin435 I’m sure my husband hates watching them with me because I’m like “in the book this happened”. I like the films to a certain point but honestly most of the time I only watch 1-3. After that the changes and cuts are too much for me too. Like all the extra “action” they added to Goblet of Fire. If u start thinking about it for half a second u realize they just released a full grown dragon on the grounds and all the adult wizards just sat there. It’s ridiculous.
@@occheermommy oh yeah, ironically with all the cuts or baffling changes, I keep forgetting that one. The original movies are fine for what they are, but even then, order of the phoenix was the more accurate of those later movies, and cutting out certain details just made so many plot holes that could’ve been explained away. I mean at least fantastic beasts didn’t break the book canon when they added the secret love child, or Naginni being a maladictas
Solid video. I enjoy the fact that you don’t use an a.i. narrator, you use a reasonable speed of speech, and don’t do the annoying UA-camr voice inflection at the end of sentences
I know right ... Harry Confronting Voldemort infront of everyone 👀. Such a badass 🔥 moment it was . And also telling everyone along with Voldemort... Who Snape actually was !!!
The whole thing of why muggles don’t go in the Leaky Cauldron is glossed over a bit in the books on Harry’s first visit. He is looking at the sign and he notices the muggles seem to walk past as though they don’t even see it. That’s because they don’t see it. It has a charm on it.
The potion being made by children is why it wasn't perfect duplication. That's how I justify it to myself. An ace wizard doing doing something the right way compared to sloppy kids doing something for the first time.
Ludo Bagman...Barty Crouch Sr's actual demise, Harry NOT feeling horcruxes if they are near, the Maze , Harry USES the invisibility cloak when checking out his original home and graveyard, And all the quiditch matches they cut...which is a lot... Are just a few extras 😊
Sorry but ludo bagman literally had no real reason for the story. As so many other things. Sure there is some nice world building. But also too much filler that never gets mentioned anywhere. Usually in fantasy everything has a meaning. But thats just not the case for HP. I like th books, but they aren't great works. Imho, the movies just elevated the story, cutting out most of the filler and especially improving on the dialogue a lot (!), which truly isnt greatly written in the books
@fritzschnitzmueller3768 Ludo was important for several reasons; The Twins lose their money AND get no winnings. Harry's generosity saves them. Ludo was accused of being a death eater..which is why Barty Crouch dislikes him ..and why Winky dislikes him. He adds to the issues of making a deal with Goblins....which is foreshadowing the Trio's deal with Griphook. And, he gets Arthur tickets in the Prime Minister's box...which leads to Harry losing his wand. So. Pretty important side character.
Voldemort's death was definitely my biggest problem. In the movie they were alone (so no witnesses) and then Voldemort disintegrates when he dies (so no body). How does everyone else know the war is over and they can stop fighting? Did they take Harry's word for it?
Rita Skeeter was crucial in the 5th book. Hermione freed her from her tiny prison in exchange for her publishing Harry’s account of the graveyard the year prior. No one believed his story before that. Of course this plot point makes no sense if we didn’t get the animagus plot in the first place🤷♂️
I love her _because_ she's such a -vile, evil, loathsome- unapologetic, sell-out 🤣 But no, we would never share a cup of tea even if my life depended on it
@@VaultLore it is surely, but they slur their words the whole time. You obviously have a higher standard of quality. Moon has very interesting topics, but sometimes I just cant stand the wishwash 😆
As far as the screaming book in the restricted section goes, as a kid I always just thought it was a random book, but as I got older I thought it might be "Magick Moste Evil", the one book in the library that references Horcruxes, the one that Tom Riddle found and later questioned Professor Slughorn about. To corroborate this theory, in HBP Chapter 18, Hermione recounts looking through the book for information, and noted that it let out a "ghostly wail". I thought this was pretty damn cool.
Ludo Bagman is my favorite cut character from Goblet of Fire. He’s the handsome, charming, slimey, cheating, bookie who steals the Weasley twins money when they won their bet about the World Cup fair and square. It’s why they accept when Harry offers them his prize money from the Triwizard Tournament. He was a fun character to read about and root against.
I loved Harry and Ginny in the books, I felt like I actually understood why Harry was falling in love with her and coming to terms with his feelings, in the movies I found myself rooting for Harry to end up with Luna. It felt a way more natural relationship and more chemistry between the actors.
I still think it still came out of nowhere a little bit but I suppose that's how it was for harry. I sort of respect Rowling for not going down the route of romanticizing it. She could have easily filled the story with melodrama if Ron disapproved or whatever. it makes the books more comfortable to read as an adult as well.
I like to believe that bc they're second years the polyjuice potion didn't 100% work hence why you hear harry and rons voices. yes hermione is a brilliant witch already but we see in HBP that she's not the best at potions and i don't think snape would've made notes on every recipe if the books available to students were 100% accurate. it probably takes more than a year and a half of magical experience to decifer the best way to make the potion. i'd like to think hermione made the potion by the book but the book is wrong or missing a particular instruction to make it perfect.
With part is either very annoying or a plot hole in my opinion; they go through all this effort in 2nd year to get the _one_ book that tells you how o make it, but then it's in the 6th year textbook. There had to have been a 6th year taking potions in CoS that they could've nicked the book from for a few minutes and copied out the recipe from or, better yet, don't put it in Advanced Potion Making (nor make it a go-to solution for many of the later books when it ought to be hard to come by), because it's a seriously OP potion yet any 16 yo potioneer should apparently be able to make. Edit: I do think the potion should either work or not, though, rather than the film's interpretation, because it changes your whole body and therefore your vocal cords which determines your voice. Hermione is exceptionally talented, a constant reminder of the injustice of pure-blood bias throughout the books, and some books, like Moste Potente Potions, might just give better instructions to a potentially deadly potion than a high school textbook, so there shouldn't be any "degree of effectivity" just because she's a 2nd year student
Been loving the content, am sure this video will be great too when i watch in completion, i love that you dont include sound clips or have unnecessary loud noises throughout the iceberg videos. These are so good to sleep to because of that so please dont ever change the format!
Every now and then, the movie gets something better over the books. Several movies, for example, toned down some of the 'argument' scenes and it benefited the story. Deathly Hallows: Part 1 has Hermione maybe mention only once that Harry shouldn't be allowed to look into Voldemort's mind and Harry tells her he's going to do it anyways and that's the end of the discussion. In the book, she keeps moaning on about it and it gets frustrating, because it's not like Harry wishes for all of this and Hermione is pre-judging something she isn't experiencing herself. I mean, yeah, she's right, but it goes into the territory of annoying that you would be satisfied if Harry just gave her a big slap right there, which I highly doubt is the intention. On the flipside, it's nice when the movie remembers it's own continuity. Like movie 5 where she mentions that she saw Harry summon a patronus, an event she wasn't present for in the book.
I know I'm not alone in this camp. The book magical duels are often creative, especially high level duels like Dumbledore Vs Voldy, and it included transformations, charms, jinxes, apparitions, and magical beasts. While in the movie, magical duels are often dumbed down to shooting lasers at each other than the dragon ball style Kamehameha clashes.
38:27 Maybe the death eaters in the movies ARE apparating and disapparating. They do it in a way that they flicker in and out, making it look like they’re flying. The black smoke is just a kind of flourish, as a sort of intimidation display… or to hide the fact that they ARE apparating, and not actually flying. So a death eater apparates to a point in the sky, then flickers in and out as they drop from that apex, trailing smoke behind them as they travel.
I haven’t reread the books in ages but I vaguely remember a tank of brains in the ministry from book 5. Wish they hadn’t cut that part out, it’s a tank of brains!
Also 19:40 Lupin forgot the marauders map when rushing to the SS, so when Snape came with Wolfsbane he noticed the map and followed, I don't remember, but i think Snape took it with him.
THE WORST change for me is and always will be the fact that in the film Gellert told Voldemort that it was Dumbledore who had the Elder wand. Because why, oh why did he do it in the film! I hate it because there's NO POINT in this change. It just killed the difference between these two dark wizards.
@BlackangelKatakuri I think Emma Watson AT THE TIME of the movies was likely a pretty intelligent, nice young person. 4 years of indoctrination, however, and I doubt she could define "woman" . Sad, really.
I think the biggest change that is never ever talked about is the mirror that serious gave harry at the beginning of the order of the phoenix no one ever talks about it I mean the mirror is what made harry realize that he really was dead at the end of the book and it becomes crucial in the over all story by the end but yet it’s no where to be found till the last 2 movies and harry just magically has a piece of it with absolutely zero explanation as to why or how
The priory incataitum bit always gets me because while the connection is unique to Harry and Voldemort, meanwhile they overlook the version of the spell Barty Crouch did to see if Harry’s wand casted the dark mark
Regarding Regulus Black's story, I remember hearing that Kreacher was gonna be cut entirely, but Rowling made the director include him, saying he'll be important later.
The scene that gets my goat is the dual between Harry and Draco in chamber. No matter what spell is cast, the opponent is blasted off their feet (include Lockhart). Same effect. Tickling charm = Draco is blasted back to the floor! Also I amazed that no reactor channel comments in Prisoner, that why could Lupin read the Marauder's map as there was no background and why Lupid and Snape knew they were in the shrieking shack. Big film plot holes.
loved the video. just finished watching deathly hallows 2 and i just wanna add something to your last point, how the death of voldemort was changed in the movies. there was also one other change to the book in his scene - in the book, they fought in the great hall and they were just circling around each other while harry told voldy the truth about severus with everyone watching, essentially clearing his name. i was really disappointed that the movie brought this scene down to just a little convo between only harry and voldemort.
it would be super cool to maybe see a collab between this crator and those two brothers who do what if cenarios. can you imagine an iceberg of alternate realities like harry being in slytherin or neville being the chosen one?! if it was a collab then there wouldn't be a risk of copyright stuff and could bring new viewers to both channels.
Let's goo new fire vid for vault Also I think that Alan Richman was really good as Snape especially in the last couple of films and in Deathly Hallows pt2 when the line " For him" being removed as in my opinion that choice it shows Snape as a more caring and heroic character as he not only cared of lily but he deeply cares of Harry which adds to the tragedy of his death
Great job, homie. I'm loving your content more and more! I think Peeves and Winky the house elf are the 2 most important cut characters. They were both so integral to the story imo. What about a list of things that you personally think were "better" in the movies than in the book? We all know the books are better, but the movies DID get a few good shots in over the books. I can think of a couple specific examples but im interested in yours
Thats a good idea too! I think my next one is going to be first draft changes the JKR made, like cut plot lines that didn't make it into the books, but things the movie does better could be a good video! thanks for the support as always!
I like the scene with Dudley at the zoo better. The glass reappearing and him getting stuck. And the snake only saying thanks so Harry may not realize he could talk to snakes at that place.
Hey, a piece of advice - old video, I know : if you put images on top of a moving background (like the fields), the images will end up lower quality because the youtube compression prioritises moving elements. The animated background doesnt do much imo, so I'd focus on the images.
Dude ... Only reason Movie Ginny existed 😢 was , screenwriter couldn't go against canon ! Or else they would have just set up Harry - Hermione 😐😣😶 Damn you Movie makers...!
Not compared to Ginny no, but in my opinion it’s way worse to do Ron that dirty considering how he’s part of the main 3 and is the 2nd most mentioned character in the books after Harry, like messing up a character that’s a main one like that is a crime. Ginny is very frustrating, but to be fair she does randomly change and become a badass seemingly out of nowhere and Harry suddenly likes her. It’s not the same as a full on main character though
@@clover2739 It's fact that ... Both Ron & Ginny were butchered . But atleast Ron got few of his moments somewhere around With Ginny , they completely messed up her character arc transition which started at start of Order of Phoenix. We can see lots of moments where she was strong enough to speak up against & for Harry , against people who were disrespectful to Luna , participating in battle of ministry etc . And this was Main thing to be developed because it was Whole damn reason Harry actually fell for her . But u can see how they spoiled it & Their pair made no sense . Messing up the whole character & their whole love story is bit more than Ron's charcter ( which atleast shined in some moments) Give me one moment where Ginny was true to books . We can't 😕😔 !!!
@@Dr.MonicaNaik Ron should’ve at least gotten some moments… considering how he’s a main character who is the most mentioned after Harry. That’s my point, I’m not saying Ginny wasn’t butchered. I’m saying that it’s worse to butcher a main character as significant as Ron. Ginny is badass yes, but she’s badly written either way in my opinion and it felt like she became cool all of a sudden so Harry would see her as a love interest. I would’ve liked her to have personality I’m her movies obviously, but messing up the 2nd mentioned character when he has all that material is insane
@@clover2739 I agree with Ron part with u . Whereas I think we will he having debate about our perspectives on Ginny 😅😊 ! Because as far as I know from books she was badass from start ... Like stealing brother' brooms at Burrow, sneaking into Boys dormitory for Tom riddle diary , dealing with a soul trauma at age 11 and many more . She was always strong but couldn't bring it together infront of Harry bcoz of her childhood crush . But it's okay to have our own opinions ✌️& coexist 😊
A lot of the changes were to spell it out better for the reader. I agree that harry's death scene was one of the most suspenseful in the series but without a narrator (which would also have ruined it) the viewer would be missing context
I'm late to this, but I just had to point out that in the first scene of the first movie, McGonagall says "I've been watching them all day. They're the worst sort of muggles ..." Etc. so they did include that's she's been watching them.
I have a theory about polyjuice potion in the movies. Perhaps there is a magical perception filter involved, where those people in the know hear the original voices, but anyone unaware of its use just hears what the disguise is supposed to sound like? This would explain why Draco doesn't comment on Goyle sounding like Harry Potter in movie 2, nobody realised Moody isn't Moody in number 4, and nobody points out that Hermione doesn't sound like Bellatrix in movie 8. Whereas in movie 7, Harry knows who the 6 people using the potion are, so he (and we the viewers) hear their original voices. Just an idea!
Books are better than movies but it only depends on whether you are a person with more imagination and creativity or whether you have less of these qualities, people who enjoy movies more tend to want linear entertainment and book enjoyers tend to want complete immersion. Personally, reading a book is like watching a million versions of a movie, a story that you can visualize boundlessly whereas movies are one captured version of said story. A great movie is amazing but a great book is on another level again.
Skeeter is the one who wrote Harry’s interview about Voldemort’s return ans she is the one who wrote the book about Dumbledore’s secrets, she’s not a central character but she’s not irrelevant either.
@@VaultLoreSomething like that or St. Mungo's that looks like a closed store no one pays attention to. Maybe its a boarded off place or something like that for Muggles, we can only guess but they would not stroll into the Leaky Cauldron because they cant.
@@kirikayuumura5370I always wonder how muggles see it. And what would happen if a car Crash or something happens and a car drives right in there or something
as a movie watcher, i never understood why the twin wands was such a big deal when neither character ended up with that wand in the final battle. why emphasis it so much when it doesn't matter in the end? i'm happy to hear anyone's explanations or theories on the matter ☺
The big issue is time constraints with book to movie translations. Azkaban needed another 10-20 minutes From Goblet of Fire onwards, each book should have become 2 movies.
49:30 I think it's entirely possible for Hermione to know the slurs in Wizarding World as she's really well-read and knows probably everything about it.
I'm probably one of the few who likes Ginny just fine in the films. It actually makes more sense for her to make the first move in the kiss scene because she knows Harry's awkward with girls and needs her to take the initiative. It's also sweet how she tells him what to do- "Take my hand," "Close your eyes," and he just dutifully obeys her without question.
You’re very wrong about Quirrell. Voldemort was already in the back of his head since the summer. It was the reason he took the teacher post trying to find the stone.
He was not attached yet though. He had subjugated quirrell before the school year, but he did not attach to his head until after quirrell failed to steal the stone. The books mention that Harry found the turban to look ridiculous, implying quirrell was not wearing it when they first met. Quirrell also shakes Harry’s hand in the books, which would have affected Voldemort if he were attached at that point.
At the end of the series, iirc, Harry repairs his original wand with the Elder wand. Then the Elder wand was reburied with Dumbledore, Harry knowing his own passing would make it's magic moot. But I definitely remember Harry fixing his wand with it, because it was an old friend.
I think Quirrell even with Voldemort, could shake hand with Harry Potter just fine. According to book, the protection is only active when the other person wants to actively harm Harry. At that point, he did not plan to do anything to him, in front of all these people.
Isn't the reason the Leaky Cauldron can't be stumbled upon by Muggles, is that it is hidden by some clever charm work which makes it nearly impossible to even see the pub if you don't already know its there? Like you have to actively be looking for it. this doesn't mean that muggles CANT find it but they would have to have previous knowledge of the pub in order to see it and walk in. This would mean that only muggles with knowledge of the wizarding world to some extent can go into these charmed buildings. I think that the Black estate also works that way, right? At least from what I remember in the books. I could be wrong, its been a hot minute since I've read the books or watched the films. But either way, I love your videos! they're so fun to watch and remind me of tons of details in the books that I've forgotten about. Plus you add tons of really interesting commentary. ( : Thanks for the videos!
Regulus and Kreacher's story is one of my favourite parts of the books and I hate that they left it out. It showed yet again how little Voldemort knew about certain kinds of magic and how his disdain for (in his eyes) inferior people or creatures got him killed in the end. Also I can tell you why some people hate the change to a raven from an eagle for Ravenclaw's crest so much. For us Revanclaws it is nearly impossible to get accurate merch because of this decision. Nearly all merch is based on the movies and has therefore the wrong colours and the wrong animal. You can't imagine the pain 😤😅 The worst change in the end where Harry walks into the forbidden forest is, that Hermione hugs Harry and Ron is standing in the background as if they are barely acquaintances.
We also see in fifth movie, of the same smoke affect just said it's white smoke for the Order of the Phoenix. And they have no brooms with them, that's why I've always thought that they basically made the Death Eaters and the Order of the Phoenix able to fly without a broom when it's not like that in the book
I actually very like how they fly, it looks awesome. Most likely, this is a very difficult magic to use, which is not everyone can master, much less use effectively. Also, almost no one used spells in this smoke form, indicating that it is even more dificult (try to concentrate on this complex magic so as not to accidentally stop being a smoke, casting spells and not slamming into a wall or something else at such high speed... crazy multitasking). Brooms are much, much more versatile and easy to use.
This might have been a slip of the tongue for you, but during the Polyjuice section of level 3 you stated that we see Mad Eye Moody in Movie 3, but that's Prisoner of Azkaban we don't see him until the Goblet of Fire in the fourth movie and book.
The passage under the tree is not the only way to go in the shack, Voldemort, Snape and Lucius Malfoy all goes in the shack during the battle of Hogwarts and they didn’t use the hidden passage.
I enjoy your videos very much, and usually we're pretty much in agreement on most things. Not everything, obviously, for example I disagree when it comes to the dueling clash effect that they got so fond of in the fourth movie. I think it adds something quite thematic and appropriate, and certainly very cool. I always thought of it as something that could happen, it's just the priori incantatem effect which comes with prerequisites. That being said, I couldn't help but roll my eyes when you talked about the m-slur situation. It seems pretty obvious to me that when people censor themselves when talking about it, it's just a fun, tongue-in-cheek way to speak about it. It's just a bit of fun, and it's not meant to be taken so seriously. You talking about how you'd rather focus on real discrimination seemed like a weirdly underhanded and unnecessary shot at people just trying to talk about their fandom, something which you of all people should be staunchly against. Again, I'm a fan of your content, don't take this the wrong way. I just felt I needed to get that off my chest.
The best part about Voldemort's death in the books is that he died like a human. The only thing Tom Riddle ever feared was death and despite going to extremes by creating horcuxes and splitting his soul into 8 pieces, he was still a human. However, the way he dies in the movie series, it felt as if, Tom Riddle had succeeded his goals and now, not only is he immortal but omnipresent as his being is spread across the world.
Voldemorts death in the book always confused me. Maybe I'm dumb but did the killing curse just splash back at him and that's what got him? Also people censoring mudblood is nutty to me. It's like in how some xmen comics have the word mutie being just as bad as the n word, but one is real and harms people, the other is just fantasy
Fun fact about the actors union Actors who make appearances and act on screen do not get paid as much as actors with speaking roals So if crabb and goyal had to act and speak in the polyjuice scene, they would have been paid more as they had yet to speak in the movie. So it was cost cutting.
You did not mentioned the one thing that made me crazy. On Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows movies, Harry has a broken mirror, and he can see Abelford from there And... That's all. We don't know where this broken mirror is from. It's just there, with Harry, for no reason. In the books, the two-way mirror was a way for Harry to be able to communicate with Sirius. Harry smashed the mirror after Sirius's death (that's why it's broken). It's not from nowhere. 😂 For the Leaky Cauldron, it's not open to Muggles anymore when Harry and Hagrid are going, so it's a safe place. Yes, it's on a muggle street, but I think it's mentioned in the books that no one else except Harry and Haggid were looking at it... I believe the book should quote something like "it was like no one else could see it". For the Quirell btw, we just need to accept the story is different in the books and in the movies. In the book, Voldemort joins his body to punish him after Gringotts. In the movie, Voldemort says, "See what I must do to survive ? Live off another" implying he needed to be there to survive, and he was always there, probably since Quirell met him. Where in the books, Voldemort only needed Quirell to "not be a shadow". I think both are ok. I even like, for once, the movie version a little better, as really it makes no sense to me that Voldy attached himself to Quirell just because he could. Must be very annoying to be hidden in there all day long, he's punishing himself more than he's punihing Quirell. I'm not really into the "green 'cause he's an horcuxe" theory. What would it mean? He would have blue / brown eyes, but then he was an Horcuxe and suddenly he has green eyes... A spell that would be the only reason why he has the same eyes as his mother. I do belive no one whould care for Harry's bleu eyes if they just had made Lily's eyes blue as well... xD As for the Marauder's map, once again, I feel like it's better in the movie. The Marauders were stupid "popular" kids/bullies, if making this map was so easy, every student would have one. Sorry, but I'm not buying it. I do believe the Death Eaters in the movies are flying. And yes, it's stupid. Once agin, if that was so easy, everyone would do it...
This has been very illuminating. Whilst I knew many of these and mostly agree with your explanation, I missed some of the tiny details because the audio description didn't include them. I once wrote a quirky fan story with the characters, as elderly rest home residents, watching themselves portrayed in the movies and some of these details would have provided great fodder. In a conversation between JKR and Screen Writer Steve Cloves, the latter admits that he didn't like Ron and wished that Harry had coupled with Hermione. This may also explain his weak writin gof Ginny's character, along with other inexpliciable changes. To me, this represents both an unforgivable lack of professional objectivity and a lack of respect for the source material. Sixth-years Fred and George in a fourth-year potions class with the trio? Really? Snape hitting the boys on the head with books? I don't think so. However, for me the most egregious and far-reaching alteration has been the radical softening of Snape’s character from self-pitying, embittered misfit to strict teacher. It’s something to which I personally could devote an entire video. This is particularly disturbing to me because I grew up under the ‘tender’ care of an authority figure who, like Snape with Harry, decided they didn’t like me. Unlike Harry, I was never given a reason and it began at the age of five and lasted 14 years instead of seven. Inexplicably, JKR herself seems to have been complicit in this change; she instructed Alan Rickman that Snape never raises his voice. This, of course, is erroneous. Snape loses his rag several times in the series; and when he loses it he really loses it. The movie also chose to leave out his more professionally questionable actions such as threatening to poison Neville’s toad and sabotaging Harry’s work. The reasons for this are never explained. Is it the adult obsession with sweetening things for children even though said children will probably enjoy the bloodier versions more than their parents? Terry Pratchett comments on this in his books. The upshot of all this is that between Alan Rickman’s masterful portrayal and the softening of Snape from an abuser to an intimidating teacher with a romantic twist, Snape has a huge fan movement all to himself - even to the extent that a group of mainly middle-aged women invented a quasi-religion around him in the early naughties. While I find the book character endlessly fascinating (the juxtaposition between apparently high IQ and very llow EQ, for instance), with my personal experience this is anathema to me. It almost feels like these people are excusing, justifying or condoning the abuse against Harry -and by extension, against me.
12:59 Exactly. I don't know if you know the show NARUTO but it's the same as if you were to pull a tailed beast out of a Jinchuriki. The tailed beast will regenerate at a later date while the host will die.
Lastly, this iceberg proves why I'm excited for the announced HBO Reboot, because a TV series has more time to expand upon all of these side-storylines and tell a fuller story.
Personally, Ron and Ginny's changes never bothered me too much in the movies. In fact, I didn't even notice them at all. Equally, Dumbledore screaming at Harry in movie 4 also makes sense to me as he is being humiliated in front of two other schools. It would make sense you'd get mad, even at your preferred student.
I really don't get why for the most people Voldemort's book death is better. I mean his soul had been split into 7 parts, dying as just an ordinary human makes much less sense at this point than turning into ashes.
15:15 Actors wearing contacts actually looks really bad. The iris is concave and catches light on the opposite side of the light direction, and the lens refracts the light creating a unique distortion when seen from the side. This gives the eyes the depth and life we humans are used to seeing. Colored contact lenses completely blocks that as it's just a flat colored object with a fixed hole for the pupil and pupil dilation would also be obscured. It simply makes the eyes look completely dead and a bit uncanny. So glad they didn't do that.
I like the Hermione figured out Harry was a Horcrux in the movie better than the book. It makes more sense that the smart one would figure it out, but through her love for her friend, wouldn't say it.
When you were talking about the shrinking Shack with the prisoner of azkaban, Ron didn't just say that he would have to kill them too but from what I recall and I could be mistaken didn't he stand on his bad leg in front of Harry basically what they had Hermione do in the movie. And he did that while in severe pain
Half blood prince totally just irks me - I understand why they cut the muggle prime minister part out, but we really needed to see Dumbledore at the Dursleys and the true explanation as to why Harry was forced to return there every year Voldemorts mother/uncle and the true origin of the locket and ring horcruxes Appartition lessons, and the fact Harry learned to but couldn't take the test like Ron (who failed) and Hermione (who passed) due to not being 17
The cutting of Voldemorts origin angers me just as much as Harry's character being stunted. Your main villain should is as important to the story as the main character it's not an opinion it's fact.
Voldemort’s death is a really disappointing change, not just visually but thematically. Tom Riddle’s life mission was to escape his humanity, to be better and different than normal people, a superior being to muggles, something beyond a regular wizard and beyond death. His chosen name literally sounds like “flight of/from death” in French. In the end though, he is proven to be mortal, a man after all. Also, while this is more tangential, it’s important for the wizarding world that he leave a corpse. Last time he “died” he vanished for over a decade with his followers going underground only to resurface. It’s important that people see he is well and truly dead.
Ron was the voice of the wizarding world in the books .. Giving his lines to Hermione often didn't make sense, as a Muggle born. There's already one comic relief character in the early movies - Neville. Why did they need to make Ron one also? I always remember McGonagall observing the Dursleys because she's sat on the wall all day on 1 November, during term time! Why the f*** is she not teaching? 😂
I’m confused about the quirrel without his turban. why didn’t he have voldemort yet? didn’t he rob gringotts that day? I thought quirrel tried to rob gringotts for voldemort?
Voldemort was already possessing him when he tried to rob Gringotts that's why he tried to rob it. He got possessed when he was in Romania or something going through a forest. He tells everyone that but he also lies and says that it was a vampire that caused him to start acting weird or am I remembering that wrong? I totally could be remembering wrong. Also since you asked for any cut characters you forgot, Winky was a huge part of Goblet of Fire and they didn't show her at all in the movies
I believe he wasn’t actually possessed, just being influenced (he doesn’t get on the back of his head until after he fails, quirrell mentions that Voldemort had to keep a VERY close eye on him after that).
Honestly, book Ron reminds me a lot of sokka from avatar the last Airbender By default the most normal one of the main trio, with a sharp wit, and a different brand of intelligence to to other 2, allowing him to find solutions the other 2 may not have thought of Any sokka fans in the comments make your voice known
15:17 Funny thing to mention: When asked if Harry's eyes being blue would be an issue, J.K. told the movie people (idr who exactly it was) that it's no problem, it's just important that later on his mother would have the same colored eyes. They casted a brown eyed girl lmao.
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That’s from the 2011 conversation between her and Steve Kloves.
I just finished watching that and I’m wondering if UA-cam is showing me your comment because of that… 🤖 lol
They not only cast a brown-eyed girl, but shot scenes almost EXCLUSIVELY zoomed in to mere inches from her face lmao. Unmistakably deep, dark brown.
Brown eyes are so plain to look at. Not sure why they wouldn’t just listen to JKs desires… with Ron. The mother’s eyes. So much disgrace to the books
@@cxo9378 - I love my brown eyes! A lot! 🥹❤️
Ron in the movies is very sad to watch sometimes. In the books, it is precisely rons character that helps hermione ground herself and take action when needed, even if it is against the rules sometimes, while hermiones character helps ron think before acting in certain scenarios, and lets him grow emotionally (e.g. the topic of houseelves). That is why they match so well, but need to work on their relationship. But that makes a good, realistic relationship.
Yeah, movie Ron is so frustrating to watch 😂
Indeed
Ron was Harry's Sam in the books. The film makers didn't need to dumb down Ron to make Hermione a girl boss. She was one in the books. It just was more balanced.
@@erincarter1469 typical feminism agenda i guess. No other reason makes sense to me
@@erincarter1469witwicky?
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the most egregious change, the attack on the Burrow in half-blood prince. It literally had no reason to exist when they could’ve used that time to show Voldemort asking for a job at hogwarts
Or any of the other 20 things they cut from that book. They could have shown a better development of Harry and Ginny’s character instead of “shoes”
@@occheermommy agree, but I was thinking of one of my favorite bit of the book in contrast to my most hated scene in the movie. I don’t mind Bella being at the hogwarts battle, even though nothing suggested Voldemort wanted anyone from the Malfoy family outside of Draco to be there to kill Dumbledore. That’s another thing that pisses me off when people justify Delphine’s existence in the cursed child. People are just saying that because Helena was pregnant during filming. Even though Bellatrix was just as afraid of Voldemort as the others, even to the point of her reaction of terror at both the ministry, and in Malfoy manor when she saw Harry Ron and Hermione had the sword. As much as I loved the movies when they were coming out, I can’t enjoy them anymore because of things they cut. And that’s why I consider the play and movies to be a separate canon from the books. Because everytime I think about them, I feel like I’m bout to have an aneurism
@@tgiacin435 I’m sure my husband hates watching them with me because I’m like “in the book this happened”. I like the films to a certain point but honestly most of the time I only watch 1-3. After that the changes and cuts are too much for me too. Like all the extra “action” they added to Goblet of Fire. If u start thinking about it for half a second u realize they just released a full grown dragon on the grounds and all the adult wizards just sat there. It’s ridiculous.
@@occheermommy oh yeah, ironically with all the cuts or baffling changes, I keep forgetting that one. The original movies are fine for what they are, but even then, order of the phoenix was the more accurate of those later movies, and cutting out certain details just made so many plot holes that could’ve been explained away. I mean at least fantastic beasts didn’t break the book canon when they added the secret love child, or Naginni being a maladictas
I agree with you but I think that scene was pretty awesome tbf
Solid video. I enjoy the fact that you don’t use an a.i. narrator, you use a reasonable speed of speech, and don’t do the annoying UA-camr voice inflection at the end of sentences
It’s all me! Scripts and everything. Glad you enjoyed it!
The final battle between Harry and Voldermort is the change that I dislike the most. The final battle in the book is much more satisfying.
Agreed
I know right ... Harry Confronting Voldemort infront of everyone 👀. Such a badass 🔥 moment it was . And also telling everyone along with Voldemort... Who Snape actually was !!!
The whole thing of why muggles don’t go in the Leaky Cauldron is glossed over a bit in the books on Harry’s first visit. He is looking at the sign and he notices the muggles seem to walk past as though they don’t even see it. That’s because they don’t see it. It has a charm on it.
The potion being made by children is why it wasn't perfect duplication. That's how I justify it to myself. An ace wizard doing doing something the right way compared to sloppy kids doing something for the first time.
Ludo Bagman...Barty Crouch Sr's actual demise, Harry NOT feeling horcruxes if they are near, the Maze , Harry USES the invisibility cloak when checking out his original home and graveyard,
And all the quiditch matches they cut...which is a lot...
Are just a few extras 😊
Tbh, the only cut Quidditch match I'm mad about is the World Cup match.
Sorry but ludo bagman literally had no real reason for the story. As so many other things. Sure there is some nice world building. But also too much filler that never gets mentioned anywhere. Usually in fantasy everything has a meaning. But thats just not the case for HP. I like th books, but they aren't great works. Imho, the movies just elevated the story, cutting out most of the filler and especially improving on the dialogue a lot (!), which truly isnt greatly written in the books
@fritzschnitzmueller3768 Ludo was important for several reasons;
The Twins lose their money AND get no winnings. Harry's generosity saves them.
Ludo was accused of being a death eater..which is why Barty Crouch dislikes him
..and why Winky dislikes him.
He adds to the issues of making a deal with Goblins....which is foreshadowing the Trio's deal with Griphook.
And, he gets Arthur tickets in the Prime Minister's box...which leads to Harry losing his wand.
So. Pretty important side character.
Yeah, Ron was supposed to be the one with the answers/information about the magical world. They didn’t portray him well
Voldemort's death was definitely my biggest problem. In the movie they were alone (so no witnesses) and then Voldemort disintegrates when he dies (so no body). How does everyone else know the war is over and they can stop fighting? Did they take Harry's word for it?
Rita Skeeter was crucial in the 5th book. Hermione freed her from her tiny prison in exchange for her publishing Harry’s account of the graveyard the year prior.
No one believed his story before that.
Of course this plot point makes no sense if we didn’t get the animagus plot in the first place🤷♂️
I love her _because_ she's such a -vile, evil, loathsome- unapologetic, sell-out 🤣 But no, we would never share a cup of tea even if my life depended on it
Finally a talking UA-camr that can speak clearly and doesnt slur their words constantly (e.g. Moon).
I try my best!
Lol, why are there so many
Talking for a long time is hard!
@@VaultLore it is surely, but they slur their words the whole time. You obviously have a higher standard of quality. Moon has very interesting topics, but sometimes I just cant stand the wishwash 😆
I’ll keep up the enunciation 😂
As far as the screaming book in the restricted section goes, as a kid I always just thought it was a random book, but as I got older I thought it might be "Magick Moste Evil", the one book in the library that references Horcruxes, the one that Tom Riddle found and later questioned Professor Slughorn about. To corroborate this theory, in HBP Chapter 18, Hermione recounts looking through the book for information, and noted that it let out a "ghostly wail". I thought this was pretty damn cool.
Oh that’s really cool!
Oh, my! That means Harry picked up a MAJOR clue and didn't realize it!
Ludo Bagman is my favorite cut character from Goblet of Fire. He’s the handsome, charming, slimey, cheating, bookie who steals the Weasley twins money when they won their bet about the World Cup fair and square. It’s why they accept when Harry offers them his prize money from the Triwizard Tournament. He was a fun character to read about and root against.
I read Lego Batman first and was confused for the whole comment
I loved Harry and Ginny in the books, I felt like I actually understood why Harry was falling in love with her and coming to terms with his feelings, in the movies I found myself rooting for Harry to end up with Luna. It felt a way more natural relationship and more chemistry between the actors.
The loss of the valentine's and other scenes in Chamber of Secrets really hurt the relationship in the films.
I still think it still came out of nowhere a little bit but I suppose that's how it was for harry. I sort of respect Rowling for not going down the route of romanticizing it. She could have easily filled the story with melodrama if Ron disapproved or whatever. it makes the books more comfortable to read as an adult as well.
14:29 - The Avada Kedavra curse is green. That's the connection I always made
I like to believe that bc they're second years the polyjuice potion didn't 100% work hence why you hear harry and rons voices. yes hermione is a brilliant witch already but we see in HBP that she's not the best at potions and i don't think snape would've made notes on every recipe if the books available to students were 100% accurate. it probably takes more than a year and a half of magical experience to decifer the best way to make the potion. i'd like to think hermione made the potion by the book but the book is wrong or missing a particular instruction to make it perfect.
I think the potion is also supposed to be quite difficult to make
With part is either very annoying or a plot hole in my opinion; they go through all this effort in 2nd year to get the _one_ book that tells you how o make it, but then it's in the 6th year textbook. There had to have been a 6th year taking potions in CoS that they could've nicked the book from for a few minutes and copied out the recipe from or, better yet, don't put it in Advanced Potion Making (nor make it a go-to solution for many of the later books when it ought to be hard to come by), because it's a seriously OP potion yet any 16 yo potioneer should apparently be able to make.
Edit: I do think the potion should either work or not, though, rather than the film's interpretation, because it changes your whole body and therefore your vocal cords which determines your voice. Hermione is exceptionally talented, a constant reminder of the injustice of pure-blood bias throughout the books, and some books, like Moste Potente Potions, might just give better instructions to a potentially deadly potion than a high school textbook, so there shouldn't be any "degree of effectivity" just because she's a 2nd year student
Been loving the content, am sure this video will be great too when i watch in completion, i love that you dont include sound clips or have unnecessary loud noises throughout the iceberg videos. These are so good to sleep to because of that so please dont ever change the format!
Thanks for watching!! Glad you’re liking them!
Goblet of fire's adaptation is weird mostly because the director didn't read the book with most of the staff working around it
Winky has been cut twice 😢 she was so important in book 4....
Sorry winky 😓
Every now and then, the movie gets something better over the books. Several movies, for example, toned down some of the 'argument' scenes and it benefited the story. Deathly Hallows: Part 1 has Hermione maybe mention only once that Harry shouldn't be allowed to look into Voldemort's mind and Harry tells her he's going to do it anyways and that's the end of the discussion.
In the book, she keeps moaning on about it and it gets frustrating, because it's not like Harry wishes for all of this and Hermione is pre-judging something she isn't experiencing herself. I mean, yeah, she's right, but it goes into the territory of annoying that you would be satisfied if Harry just gave her a big slap right there, which I highly doubt is the intention.
On the flipside, it's nice when the movie remembers it's own continuity. Like movie 5 where she mentions that she saw Harry summon a patronus, an event she wasn't present for in the book.
It's literally never occurred to me that the screaming book could be anything other than an alarm system.
I know I'm not alone in this camp. The book magical duels are often creative, especially high level duels like Dumbledore Vs Voldy, and it included transformations, charms, jinxes, apparitions, and magical beasts. While in the movie, magical duels are often dumbed down to shooting lasers at each other than the dragon ball style Kamehameha clashes.
Agreed, no strategy at all in the movie, just pew pew pew
To be fair, Tommy boy already looks kinda like frieza.
It's a real shame
The 4th movie kept the names of the book and the names of the characters and that's about it. If there are no movie 4 haters then I am dead
Honestly can’t stand movie 4 haha
The 4th movie is quite goofy and probably the weakest film in the series. However I just finished re reading the 4th book and I absolutely loved it
@@kjames3504 yeah the book is great, one of the reasons i hate the movie and its director so much
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Maybe the death eaters in the movies ARE apparating and disapparating.
They do it in a way that they flicker in and out, making it look like they’re flying. The black smoke is just a kind of flourish, as a sort of intimidation display… or to hide the fact that they ARE apparating, and not actually flying.
So a death eater apparates to a point in the sky, then flickers in and out as they drop from that apex, trailing smoke behind them as they travel.
I haven’t reread the books in ages but I vaguely remember a tank of brains in the ministry from book 5. Wish they hadn’t cut that part out, it’s a tank of brains!
Also 19:40 Lupin forgot the marauders map when rushing to the SS, so when Snape came with Wolfsbane he noticed the map and followed, I don't remember, but i think Snape took it with him.
No he didn't; that would be why Lupin was able to give it back to Harry before he left.
@@kyleethekelt oh, alright 👍
I have more evidence considering I have read the books now. Snape got lured to the SS by Sirius, so he does know how to get past Whillow.
THE WORST change for me is and always will be the fact that in the film Gellert told Voldemort that it was Dumbledore who had the Elder wand. Because why, oh why did he do it in the film! I hate it because there's NO POINT in this change. It just killed the difference between these two dark wizards.
Hermione is a Mary Sue character in the movies, but is done very well in the books...and Book Hermione is really awesome. 😊
Absolutely she is and no offense to Emma Watson but I didn't like her in the movies at all.
@BlackangelKatakuri I think Emma Watson AT THE TIME of the movies was likely a pretty intelligent, nice young person.
4 years of indoctrination, however, and I doubt she could define "woman" .
Sad, really.
I think the biggest change that is never ever talked about is the mirror that serious gave harry at the beginning of the order of the phoenix no one ever talks about it I mean the mirror is what made harry realize that he really was dead at the end of the book and it becomes crucial in the over all story by the end but yet it’s no where to be found till the last 2 movies and harry just magically has a piece of it with absolutely zero explanation as to why or how
I watched the movies first and I was so confused 🤣
@ same though
Such an amazing and informative video!! I'd love for you to do one for the Hunger Games 🙌🏾🔥
The priory incataitum bit always gets me because while the connection is unique to Harry and Voldemort, meanwhile they overlook the version of the spell Barty Crouch did to see if Harry’s wand casted the dark mark
Yay very inconsistent and annoying at times
I feel like I’m the only one who didn’t mind Voldemorts death in the movies, lol. I get the argument for the books though!
Regarding Regulus Black's story, I remember hearing that Kreacher was gonna be cut entirely, but Rowling made the director include him, saying he'll be important later.
The scene that gets my goat is the dual between Harry and Draco in chamber. No matter what spell is cast, the opponent is blasted off their feet (include Lockhart). Same effect. Tickling charm = Draco is blasted back to the floor! Also I amazed that no reactor channel comments in Prisoner, that why could Lupin read the Marauder's map as there was no background and why Lupid and Snape knew they were in the shrieking shack. Big film plot holes.
loved the video. just finished watching deathly hallows 2 and i just wanna add something to your last point, how the death of voldemort was changed in the movies. there was also one other change to the book in his scene - in the book, they fought in the great hall and they were just circling around each other while harry told voldy the truth about severus with everyone watching, essentially clearing his name. i was really disappointed that the movie brought this scene down to just a little convo between only harry and voldemort.
Ah yeah that’s true, they really reduced it to such a tiny moment in the movies. Thanks for watching!!
Just made my morning cup of coffee excited to start this one.
Enjoy!
You make some of the best Harry Potter content
You are the best viewer!
it would be super cool to maybe see a collab between this crator and those two brothers who do what if cenarios. can you imagine an iceberg of alternate realities like harry being in slytherin or neville being the chosen one?! if it was a collab then there wouldn't be a risk of copyright stuff and could bring new viewers to both channels.
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Also I think that Alan Richman was really good as Snape especially in the last couple of films and in Deathly Hallows pt2 when the line " For him" being removed as in my opinion that choice it shows Snape as a more caring and heroic character as he not only cared of lily but he deeply cares of Harry which adds to the tragedy of his death
Yeah, I think Alan Rickman was a better snape than we got in the books. The snape we deserved.
Was that line removed? I could have sworn that it was still in the movie.
Ill be completely honest. I het what you're saying but I absolutely love the spell beam struggle. It just makes wizard duels so fun to watch 😂
I didn’t mind a lot of the changes from the book because of how minor some were in relation to the overall plot.
But Ginny was definitely done dirty.
Great job, homie. I'm loving your content more and more!
I think Peeves and Winky the house elf are the 2 most important cut characters. They were both so integral to the story imo.
What about a list of things that you personally think were "better" in the movies than in the book? We all know the books are better, but the movies DID get a few good shots in over the books. I can think of a couple specific examples but im interested in yours
Thats a good idea too! I think my next one is going to be first draft changes the JKR made, like cut plot lines that didn't make it into the books, but things the movie does better could be a good video!
thanks for the support as always!
I like the scene with Dudley at the zoo better. The glass reappearing and him getting stuck. And the snake only saying thanks so Harry may not realize he could talk to snakes at that place.
Great work! Keep doing what you're doing your channel will reach your goals and more before you know it!
Thank you!
Hey, a piece of advice - old video, I know : if you put images on top of a moving background (like the fields), the images will end up lower quality because the youtube compression prioritises moving elements. The animated background doesnt do much imo, so I'd focus on the images.
I think Lilly’s sacrifice casted a spell on Harry to protect him. That’s how I always interpreted it.
Holy crap! Moody with secretly a ferret in the third movie all along!? Moody in Prisoner of Azkaban confirmed!
Dude im loving your content so much gg m8
Thanks for watching!!
Movies did Ron dirty for sure, but not compared to Ginny
Dude ... Only reason Movie Ginny existed 😢 was , screenwriter couldn't go against canon !
Or else they would have just set up Harry - Hermione 😐😣😶
Damn you Movie makers...!
Not compared to Ginny no, but in my opinion it’s way worse to do Ron that dirty considering how he’s part of the main 3 and is the 2nd most mentioned character in the books after Harry, like messing up a character that’s a main one like that is a crime. Ginny is very frustrating, but to be fair she does randomly change and become a badass seemingly out of nowhere and Harry suddenly likes her. It’s not the same as a full on main character though
@@clover2739 It's fact that ... Both Ron & Ginny were butchered .
But atleast Ron got few of his moments somewhere around
With Ginny , they completely messed up her character arc transition which started at start of Order of Phoenix. We can see lots of moments where she was strong enough to speak up against & for Harry , against people who were disrespectful to Luna , participating in battle of ministry etc . And this was Main thing to be developed because it was Whole damn reason Harry actually fell for her . But u can see how they spoiled it & Their pair made no sense .
Messing up the whole character & their whole love story is bit more than Ron's charcter ( which atleast shined in some moments)
Give me one moment where Ginny was true to books . We can't 😕😔 !!!
@@Dr.MonicaNaik Ron should’ve at least gotten some moments… considering how he’s a main character who is the most mentioned after Harry. That’s my point, I’m not saying Ginny wasn’t butchered. I’m saying that it’s worse to butcher a main character as significant as Ron. Ginny is badass yes, but she’s badly written either way in my opinion and it felt like she became cool all of a sudden so Harry would see her as a love interest. I would’ve liked her to have personality I’m her movies obviously, but messing up the 2nd mentioned character when he has all that material is insane
@@clover2739 I agree with Ron part with u . Whereas I think we will he having debate about our perspectives on Ginny 😅😊 ! Because as far as I know from books she was badass from start ... Like stealing brother' brooms at Burrow, sneaking into Boys dormitory for Tom riddle diary , dealing with a soul trauma at age 11 and many more . She was always strong but couldn't bring it together infront of Harry bcoz of her childhood crush .
But it's okay to have our own opinions ✌️& coexist 😊
I’m gonna need a twilight video, more anime content, more everything please
Haha Idk about twilight, but maybe others
A lot of the changes were to spell it out better for the reader. I agree that harry's death scene was one of the most suspenseful in the series but without a narrator (which would also have ruined it) the viewer would be missing context
Steve Kloves is a dork with a obsessive Hermione bias and it SHOWS, it REALLY SHOWS.
Yeah. It really did show…
Well…..JKR APPROVED ALL THE CHANGES….AND HERMIONE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE “JKR”.
So it was NOT just him.
@lynnerose7891 Yeah it makes sense .
I'm late to this, but I just had to point out that in the first scene of the first movie, McGonagall says "I've been watching them all day. They're the worst sort of muggles ..." Etc. so they did include that's she's been watching them.
I have a theory about polyjuice potion in the movies.
Perhaps there is a magical perception filter involved, where those people in the know hear the original voices, but anyone unaware of its use just hears what the disguise is supposed to sound like?
This would explain why Draco doesn't comment on Goyle sounding like Harry Potter in movie 2, nobody realised Moody isn't Moody in number 4, and nobody points out that Hermione doesn't sound like Bellatrix in movie 8.
Whereas in movie 7, Harry knows who the 6 people using the potion are, so he (and we the viewers) hear their original voices. Just an idea!
Books are better than movies but it only depends on whether you are a person with more imagination and creativity or whether you have less of these qualities, people who enjoy movies more tend to want linear entertainment and book enjoyers tend to want complete immersion. Personally, reading a book is like watching a million versions of a movie, a story that you can visualize boundlessly whereas movies are one captured version of said story. A great movie is amazing but a great book is on another level again.
True, time and place for everything. Nothing like a giant bowl of popcorn and blasting movie speakers.
@@VaultLore 💯
i love reading but i'm so bad at finishing a book series 😂
Skeeter is the one who wrote Harry’s interview about Voldemort’s return ans she is the one who wrote the book about Dumbledore’s secrets, she’s not a central character but she’s not irrelevant either.
The Leaking Couldron can't be seen by Muggles, as Dumbledore mentions to Tom Riddle in the Orphanage memory in "Half Blood Prince"
So it’s a platform 9 3/4 situation
@@VaultLoreSomething like that or St. Mungo's that looks like a closed store no one pays attention to. Maybe its a boarded off place or something like that for Muggles, we can only guess but they would not stroll into the Leaky Cauldron because they cant.
@@kirikayuumura5370I always wonder how muggles see it. And what would happen if a car Crash or something happens and a car drives right in there or something
as a movie watcher, i never understood why the twin wands was such a big deal when neither character ended up with that wand in the final battle. why emphasis it so much when it doesn't matter in the end? i'm happy to hear anyone's explanations or theories on the matter ☺
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The big issue is time constraints with book to movie translations.
Azkaban needed another 10-20 minutes
From Goblet of Fire onwards, each book should have become 2 movies.
Yeah, honestly a tv series adaptation isn’t a bad idea with hbo. Fingers crossed it isn’t terrible.
@VaultVideosYT
Might try to put to much in.
49:30 I think it's entirely possible for Hermione to know the slurs in Wizarding World as she's really well-read and knows probably everything about it.
I'm probably one of the few who likes Ginny just fine in the films. It actually makes more sense for her to make the first move in the kiss scene because she knows Harry's awkward with girls and needs her to take the initiative. It's also sweet how she tells him what to do- "Take my hand," "Close your eyes," and he just dutifully obeys her without question.
You’re very wrong about Quirrell. Voldemort was already in the back of his head since the summer. It was the reason he took the teacher post trying to find the stone.
He was not attached yet though. He had subjugated quirrell before the school year, but he did not attach to his head until after quirrell failed to steal the stone.
The books mention that Harry found the turban to look ridiculous, implying quirrell was not wearing it when they first met.
Quirrell also shakes Harry’s hand in the books, which would have affected Voldemort if he were attached at that point.
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At the end of the series, iirc, Harry repairs his original wand with the Elder wand. Then the Elder wand was reburied with Dumbledore, Harry knowing his own passing would make it's magic moot.
But I definitely remember Harry fixing his wand with it, because it was an old friend.
Yeah, from what I remember he fixed his wand and then left the Elder Wand in the Headmaster's desk so "It won't ever have another master"
I think Quirrell even with Voldemort, could shake hand with Harry Potter just fine. According to book, the protection is only active when the other person wants to actively harm Harry. At that point, he did not plan to do anything to him, in front of all these people.
Isn't the reason the Leaky Cauldron can't be stumbled upon by Muggles, is that it is hidden by some clever charm work which makes it nearly impossible to even see the pub if you don't already know its there? Like you have to actively be looking for it. this doesn't mean that muggles CANT find it but they would have to have previous knowledge of the pub in order to see it and walk in. This would mean that only muggles with knowledge of the wizarding world to some extent can go into these charmed buildings. I think that the Black estate also works that way, right? At least from what I remember in the books. I could be wrong, its been a hot minute since I've read the books or watched the films. But either way, I love your videos! they're so fun to watch and remind me of tons of details in the books that I've forgotten about. Plus you add tons of really interesting commentary. ( : Thanks for the videos!
I think your right about the leaky cauldron, forgot that bit. Thanks for watching glad you’re enjoying the vids!
The one about daniel Radcliffes eyes is so simple it’s funny
And that change when Harry goes to sacrifice himself was mediocre because there wasent much they could do for internal dialogue I think
Agreed!
The plume of black smoke is appearently meant to remind people of the blitz somehow.
Regulus and Kreacher's story is one of my favourite parts of the books and I hate that they left it out. It showed yet again how little Voldemort knew about certain kinds of magic and how his disdain for (in his eyes) inferior people or creatures got him killed in the end.
Also I can tell you why some people hate the change to a raven from an eagle for Ravenclaw's crest so much. For us Revanclaws it is nearly impossible to get accurate merch because of this decision. Nearly all merch is based on the movies and has therefore the wrong colours and the wrong animal. You can't imagine the pain 😤😅
The worst change in the end where Harry walks into the forbidden forest is, that Hermione hugs Harry and Ron is standing in the background as if they are barely acquaintances.
We also see in fifth movie, of the same smoke affect just said it's white smoke for the Order of the Phoenix. And they have no brooms with them, that's why I've always thought that they basically made the Death Eaters and the Order of the Phoenix able to fly without a broom when it's not like that in the book
yeah, kinda lame in my opinion. why introduce brooms if everyone can just fly.
@@VaultLore I agree with you on that
I actually very like how they fly, it looks awesome. Most likely, this is a very difficult magic to use, which is not everyone can master, much less use effectively. Also, almost no one used spells in this smoke form, indicating that it is even more dificult (try to concentrate on this complex magic so as not to accidentally stop being a smoke, casting spells and not slamming into a wall or something else at such high speed... crazy multitasking). Brooms are much, much more versatile and easy to use.
This might have been a slip of the tongue for you, but during the Polyjuice section of level 3 you stated that we see Mad Eye Moody in Movie 3, but that's Prisoner of Azkaban we don't see him until the Goblet of Fire in the fourth movie and book.
yeah, sorry slip of the tongue, sometimes 3 and 4 blend together in my head.
@@VaultLorethat will happen to me sometimes with my numbers
The passage under the tree is not the only way to go in the shack, Voldemort, Snape and Lucius Malfoy all goes in the shack during the battle of Hogwarts and they didn’t use the hidden passage.
I enjoy your videos very much, and usually we're pretty much in agreement on most things. Not everything, obviously, for example I disagree when it comes to the dueling clash effect that they got so fond of in the fourth movie. I think it adds something quite thematic and appropriate, and certainly very cool. I always thought of it as something that could happen, it's just the priori incantatem effect which comes with prerequisites.
That being said, I couldn't help but roll my eyes when you talked about the m-slur situation. It seems pretty obvious to me that when people censor themselves when talking about it, it's just a fun, tongue-in-cheek way to speak about it. It's just a bit of fun, and it's not meant to be taken so seriously. You talking about how you'd rather focus on real discrimination seemed like a weirdly underhanded and unnecessary shot at people just trying to talk about their fandom, something which you of all people should be staunchly against.
Again, I'm a fan of your content, don't take this the wrong way. I just felt I needed to get that off my chest.
The best part about Voldemort's death in the books is that he died like a human. The only thing Tom Riddle ever feared was death and despite going to extremes by creating horcuxes and splitting his soul into 8 pieces, he was still a human. However, the way he dies in the movie series, it felt as if, Tom Riddle had succeeded his goals and now, not only is he immortal but omnipresent as his being is spread across the world.
We’re all breathing his dust in 😂
Voldemorts death in the book always confused me. Maybe I'm dumb but did the killing curse just splash back at him and that's what got him? Also people censoring mudblood is nutty to me. It's like in how some xmen comics have the word mutie being just as bad as the n word, but one is real and harms people, the other is just fantasy
Fun fact about the actors union
Actors who make appearances and act on screen do not get paid as much as actors with speaking roals
So if crabb and goyal had to act and speak in the polyjuice scene, they would have been paid more as they had yet to speak in the movie. So it was cost cutting.
39:00 nope, in the movies he does that, in the books he turned into a massive bat like thing.
42:20 that was my thought exactly, it was an alarm. To the least, it was very alarming.
You did not mentioned the one thing that made me crazy. On Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows movies, Harry has a broken mirror, and he can see Abelford from there And... That's all. We don't know where this broken mirror is from. It's just there, with Harry, for no reason.
In the books, the two-way mirror was a way for Harry to be able to communicate with Sirius. Harry smashed the mirror after Sirius's death (that's why it's broken). It's not from nowhere. 😂
For the Leaky Cauldron, it's not open to Muggles anymore when Harry and Hagrid are going, so it's a safe place. Yes, it's on a muggle street, but I think it's mentioned in the books that no one else except Harry and Haggid were looking at it... I believe the book should quote something like "it was like no one else could see it".
For the Quirell btw, we just need to accept the story is different in the books and in the movies. In the book, Voldemort joins his body to punish him after Gringotts. In the movie, Voldemort says, "See what I must do to survive ? Live off another" implying he needed to be there to survive, and he was always there, probably since Quirell met him. Where in the books, Voldemort only needed Quirell to "not be a shadow". I think both are ok. I even like, for once, the movie version a little better, as really it makes no sense to me that Voldy attached himself to Quirell just because he could. Must be very annoying to be hidden in there all day long, he's punishing himself more than he's punihing Quirell.
I'm not really into the "green 'cause he's an horcuxe" theory. What would it mean? He would have blue / brown eyes, but then he was an Horcuxe and suddenly he has green eyes... A spell that would be the only reason why he has the same eyes as his mother. I do belive no one whould care for Harry's bleu eyes if they just had made Lily's eyes blue as well... xD
As for the Marauder's map, once again, I feel like it's better in the movie. The Marauders were stupid "popular" kids/bullies, if making this map was so easy, every student would have one. Sorry, but I'm not buying it.
I do believe the Death Eaters in the movies are flying. And yes, it's stupid. Once agin, if that was so easy, everyone would do it...
This has been very illuminating. Whilst I knew many of these and mostly agree with your explanation, I missed some of the tiny details because the audio description didn't include them. I once wrote a quirky fan story with the characters, as elderly rest home residents, watching themselves portrayed in the movies and some of these details would have provided great fodder.
In a conversation between JKR and Screen Writer Steve Cloves, the latter admits that he didn't like Ron and wished that Harry had coupled with Hermione. This may also explain his weak writin gof Ginny's character, along with other inexpliciable changes. To me, this represents both an unforgivable lack of professional objectivity and a lack of respect for the source material. Sixth-years Fred and George in a fourth-year potions class with the trio? Really? Snape hitting the boys on the head with books? I don't think so.
However, for me the most egregious and far-reaching alteration has been the radical softening of Snape’s character from self-pitying, embittered misfit to strict teacher. It’s something to which I personally could devote an entire video. This is particularly disturbing to me because I grew up under the ‘tender’ care of an authority figure who, like Snape with Harry, decided they didn’t like me. Unlike Harry, I was never given a reason and it began at the age of five and lasted 14 years instead of seven. Inexplicably, JKR herself seems to have been complicit in this change; she instructed Alan Rickman that Snape never raises his voice. This, of course, is erroneous. Snape loses his rag several times in the series; and when he loses it he really loses it. The movie also chose to leave out his more professionally questionable actions such as threatening to poison Neville’s toad and sabotaging Harry’s work. The reasons for this are never explained. Is it the adult obsession with sweetening things for children even though said children will probably enjoy the bloodier versions more than their parents? Terry Pratchett comments on this in his books. The upshot of all this is that between Alan Rickman’s masterful portrayal and the softening of Snape from an abuser to an intimidating teacher with a romantic twist, Snape has a huge fan movement all to himself - even to the extent that a group of mainly middle-aged women invented a quasi-religion around him in the early naughties. While I find the book character endlessly fascinating (the juxtaposition between apparently high IQ and very llow EQ, for instance), with my personal experience this is anathema to me. It almost feels like these people are excusing, justifying or condoning the abuse against Harry -and by extension, against me.
12:59 Exactly. I don't know if you know the show NARUTO but it's the same as if you were to pull a tailed beast out of a Jinchuriki. The tailed beast will regenerate at a later date while the host will die.
Lastly, this iceberg proves why I'm excited for the announced HBO Reboot, because a TV series has more time to expand upon all of these side-storylines and tell a fuller story.
True!
@@VaultLore If they go the same route as the Percy Jackson series, then I'm having high hopes.
Even I am excited... Every neglected & completely forgotten Characters should get Limelight they deserve
@@Dr.MonicaNaik Exactly.
I demand for the Peeves scenes to be released 😭💔
Personally, Ron and Ginny's changes never bothered me too much in the movies. In fact, I didn't even notice them at all.
Equally, Dumbledore screaming at Harry in movie 4 also makes sense to me as he is being humiliated in front of two other schools. It would make sense you'd get mad, even at your preferred student.
Yeah idk why everyone is so worked up about dumbledore yelling in the movie
@@VaultLore Yeah, he's always kind and friendly in the books, but even the nicest people do need to get their frustrations out once in a while.
Exactly
@timrob12 Well that's kind of an act.
I really don't get why for the most people Voldemort's book death is better. I mean his soul had been split into 7 parts, dying as just an ordinary human makes much less sense at this point than turning into ashes.
You forgot to mention the wand Harry did not end up with Malfoy wand in the book his own wand
15:15 Actors wearing contacts actually looks really bad. The iris is concave and catches light on the opposite side of the light direction, and the lens refracts the light creating a unique distortion when seen from the side. This gives the eyes the depth and life we humans are used to seeing.
Colored contact lenses completely blocks that as it's just a flat colored object with a fixed hole for the pupil and pupil dilation would also be obscured.
It simply makes the eyes look completely dead and a bit uncanny.
So glad they didn't do that.
I like the Hermione figured out Harry was a Horcrux in the movie better than the book. It makes more sense that the smart one would figure it out, but through her love for her friend, wouldn't say it.
Voldemort's book death was world's better than in the movie!
When you were talking about the shrinking Shack with the prisoner of azkaban, Ron didn't just say that he would have to kill them too but from what I recall and I could be mistaken didn't he stand on his bad leg in front of Harry basically what they had Hermione do in the movie. And he did that while in severe pain
All true, funny enough I think that bad leg part is part of the reason some people though Ron was dumbledore (they both have bad knees or something)
@@VaultLoreI completely forgot about that theory but I can see why some people would think that
@@VonOutlaw it's all wibbly wobbly timey wimey 😂 dumbledore (ron) gets the delumintor from dumbledore😂
Half blood prince totally just irks me - I understand why they cut the muggle prime minister part out, but we really needed to see Dumbledore at the Dursleys and the true explanation as to why Harry was forced to return there every year
Voldemorts mother/uncle and the true origin of the locket and ring horcruxes
Appartition lessons, and the fact Harry learned to but couldn't take the test like Ron (who failed) and Hermione (who passed) due to not being 17
The cutting of Voldemorts origin angers me just as much as Harry's character being stunted. Your main villain should is as important to the story as the main character it's not an opinion it's fact.
Pretty much everything to do with the final battle that was changed is the stuff that really pisses me off
Haha I don’t think you’re alone.
7 part 2 is my least liked movie in the series
Regulus Black is a case of yes Show don’t tell but tell instead of cut away
Voldemort’s death is a really disappointing change, not just visually but thematically. Tom Riddle’s life mission was to escape his humanity, to be better and different than normal people, a superior being to muggles, something beyond a regular wizard and beyond death. His chosen name literally sounds like “flight of/from death” in French. In the end though, he is proven to be mortal, a man after all. Also, while this is more tangential, it’s important for the wizarding world that he leave a corpse. Last time he “died” he vanished for over a decade with his followers going underground only to resurface. It’s important that people see he is well and truly dead.
Ron was the voice of the wizarding world in the books .. Giving his lines to Hermione often didn't make sense, as a Muggle born. There's already one comic relief character in the early movies - Neville. Why did they need to make Ron one also?
I always remember McGonagall observing the Dursleys because she's sat on the wall all day on 1 November, during term time! Why the f*** is she not teaching? 😂
Snape's portrayal.
Absolutely. Not even the same character.
I thought Quiril found Voldemort in a forest or something
I’m confused about the quirrel without his turban. why didn’t he have voldemort yet? didn’t he rob gringotts that day? I thought quirrel tried to rob gringotts for voldemort?
Voldemort was already possessing him when he tried to rob Gringotts that's why he tried to rob it. He got possessed when he was in Romania or something going through a forest. He tells everyone that but he also lies and says that it was a vampire that caused him to start acting weird or am I remembering that wrong? I totally could be remembering wrong. Also since you asked for any cut characters you forgot, Winky was a huge part of Goblet of Fire and they didn't show her at all in the movies
I believe he wasn’t actually possessed, just being influenced (he doesn’t get on the back of his head until after he fails, quirrell mentions that Voldemort had to keep a VERY close eye on him after that).
@@VaultLore okay. I do remember him saying that now.
All good, kind of a weird unspoken detail!
Honestly, book Ron reminds me a lot of sokka from avatar the last Airbender
By default the most normal one of the main trio, with a sharp wit, and a different brand of intelligence to to other 2, allowing him to find solutions the other 2 may not have thought of
Any sokka fans in the comments make your voice known
19:46 and it was Jame Potter that stopped Snape and saved his life.
Hermione was the self-insert.