LOST Was Insane During The Writers' Strike | Billiam

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  • @billiam
    @billiam  Рік тому +165

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    • @pantslesswrock
      @pantslesswrock Рік тому +8

      *Peggle Level Complete Fanfare*

    • @pantslesswrock
      @pantslesswrock Рік тому +8

      @UrbanistBlooms Trashy love is the best love
      It's still a ring he earned with his labor, right? Because they don't give sponsorships to anyone. So I don't really see a difference between getting a ring from a sponsor and buying a ring with money you got... from a sponsor.

    • @charlesdu84
      @charlesdu84 Рік тому +1

      The Hurley and Ben segment touching.

    • @0therun1t21
      @0therun1t21 Рік тому +2

      The problem with tungsten carbide id that it's hard to cut off, in an accident you may lose a finger instead of a ring but other than that it's very cool jewelry.

    • @cmasterson
      @cmasterson Рік тому +1

      Isn’t Lost similar to Waco and the Jerry Jones Cult lol Ben us Jerry Jones

  • @merzysofia
    @merzysofia 4 місяці тому +35

    you're one of the only UA-camrs to credit journalists, and not just give a shoutout to the publications, and I just want to say as a journalist myself, that we appreciate that so so so much.

  • @freewillgeorge
    @freewillgeorge Рік тому +1641

    As someone who's never seen an episode of lost, I find this ungodly fascinating. I feel like an archeologist stumbling upon a copy of an epic of a long gone civilisation XD

    • @nostalgicumbry3279
      @nostalgicumbry3279 Рік тому +78

      You need to watch it, Billiam does a good job explaining what happens, but it's still something people need to /experience/.

    • @DaveDudes
      @DaveDudes Рік тому +53

      Billiam's videos are amazing and undoubtedly the best coverage of lost ever done, but watching these videos without having actually watched through the series is just shameful. There's a reason he's devoting this much time to researching and talking about it, it is truly the best piece of media ever created, and to only watch a retrospective of it is doing both the show and yourself a massive disservice.

    • @Yun-yd1im
      @Yun-yd1im Рік тому +17

      The thing is that, after having watched these videos, some of the truly amazing moments will not be surprises now.
      I remember watching a moment from Season 2 very vividly. I bought into a character only to have their true nature shown in a single unexpected moment, and not having that as a surprise would have diminished the entire experience.

    • @Alleroc
      @Alleroc Рік тому +19

      Same, I've never seen any of it nor will I ever, but it's such an enjoyable thing to watch Billiam cover.

    • @kenna3105
      @kenna3105 Рік тому +8

      me too, i also watched the mikes mic video which was 10/10 would recommend i feel like i watched it

  • @bartvsbillgates
    @bartvsbillgates Рік тому +604

    I'd also like to point out the scene where Boone is explaining to John what a red shirt is in Star Trek. When John replies saying he must've been a piss poor captain. Thats a reference to his own character in Star Trek TNG where he was a captain that ended up being court martialed for treason. Love that line ever since I started diving down the Trek rabbit hole.

    • @jbmp1390
      @jbmp1390 Рік тому +5

      That's awesome

    • @-MrFozzy-
      @-MrFozzy- Рік тому +15

      What a catch, sir! That’s a great double foreshadowed reference

    • @wearefindingglory
      @wearefindingglory Рік тому +4

      I also love that they dressed frogut in a red shirt 😆

    • @Eamonshort1
      @Eamonshort1 10 місяців тому +11

      Mike Stoklasa, is that you?

    • @TheDreamer1980
      @TheDreamer1980 13 днів тому

      Theres an office reference too , if i recall , the girl charlie was hustlng to steal her antique collectables said her dad was buying a paper merchents in slough so im guessing someone was a big fan of the uk office

  • @MATTHEWSCHUBRING
    @MATTHEWSCHUBRING Рік тому +60

    I'm 71 so I've watched quite a lot of TV over the years. LOST was the only show which I've ever watched from start to finish --every single episode--, including buying DVDs of all the seasons. It positively hypnotized me. Thanks for reminding me of so many of those peripheral characters who'd since become LOST in my memory!

  • @ratchetxtreme6591
    @ratchetxtreme6591 Рік тому +695

    No better way to celebrate the end the 2023 writers strike than taking a look on how the strike of 07 effecting the biggest shows of that era .

    • @rayvenkman2087
      @rayvenkman2087 Рік тому +43

      While 2007 affected our favourite shows and left us distraught.
      While 2023 just made us go “Who cares?”.

    • @Choekaas
      @Choekaas Рік тому +5

      If you're interested in seeing a detailed breakdown on how the writers' strike affected Lost, you can see it in more details here: ua-cam.com/video/dNQHVadYmfQ/v-deo.htmlsi=7fX1IHxrwe4tWzIf&t=10

    • @mechanomics2649
      @mechanomics2649 Рік тому +67

      @@rayvenkman2087 Speak for yourself. A lot of people care.

    • @oo4758
      @oo4758 Рік тому +43

      ​@@rayvenkman2087who's "us" is what I wanna know??👀

    • @choosecarefully408
      @choosecarefully408 Рік тому

      @@rayvenkman2087 Nostalgia ain't what it used ta be.
      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @vincentjoisce7488
    @vincentjoisce7488 Рік тому +480

    absolutely obsessed with sayid's role in the constant. being the only one from the island having to protect desmond when he can't remember anything, his original worry about the people on the freighter, watching the dude die of time travel knowing desmond's next, having to deal with desmond just kinda passing out and waking up with new knowledge and requests, using his crazy skills to fix all the equipment even tho he doesn't know why. and the pure pain of him being in the room while desmond calls penny, knowing that there's almost no way he will ever be able to have a conversation like that with nadiya. sayid is always doing everything he can for everyone he meets, no matter how 'loosened' he himself is, making him a far superior leader than jack or even john could ever be

    • @rakino4418
      @rakino4418 Рік тому +31

      The problem with Sayid as a leader is that he's purely practical and prone to brutality.

    • @DaveDudes
      @DaveDudes Рік тому +39

      God that shits so true love Sayid man hate how they treated his character in season 6

    • @syntheticat-3
      @syntheticat-3 Рік тому +16

      Literally! Where would they be without Sayid!!

    • @brooklyn113
      @brooklyn113 Рік тому +8

      I love Sayid, he was always my fave and I was hyped when I saw the actor in Sense8.

    • @YakBat
      @YakBat Рік тому +9

      @@brooklyn113 As i spent my late childhood and entire life since, being told I looked like Naveen Andrews I was 100% looking for something, ANYTHING to hate on Sayid, when LOST premiered, but really, Naveen is a GREAT actor and Sayid is fantastic character. So yea, he became my favorite too, long before season 1 ended.

  • @allisonnicole.
    @allisonnicole. Рік тому +838

    For some odd reason that I can’t explain, I love that every Billiam video starts with him saying “…yeah…”
    It’s just so chill. 😎

    • @DeconvertedMan
      @DeconvertedMan Рік тому +17

      and the minecraft door sound effect.

    • @gobulgobbler
      @gobulgobbler Рік тому +17

      Its the vibe of when you just asked a friend a question and they realize this answer is going to take the rest of the night. A "yeaaaah" that says "alright, sit down buddy we're gonna be here a while"

    • @allisonnicole.
      @allisonnicole. Рік тому +10

      @@gobulgobblerso true. Feels like he’s just picking the conversation right back up, only with the inconvenience of having to wait a year to finish telling us.

    • @redacted6653
      @redacted6653 Рік тому +4

      it's like he's resigned to his fate like "Yeah, here I am again, where else would I be?" XD

    • @oiman2070
      @oiman2070 Рік тому

      I really hope this comes to Spotify podcasts😭😭

  • @alexbassett6967
    @alexbassett6967 Рік тому +49

    love how throughout the series billy will just lie about the really big fakeouts or plot twists right up until he gets to the twist part, to incorporate them into his recap and giving first time watchers experiencing the story thru this channel a taste of what the show was like live

  • @ravenouscadaver8
    @ravenouscadaver8 Рік тому +585

    I told my friend I watched 6 hours of LOST retrospective a couple months ago and she recommended I see a doctor.
    Instead im going to watch another 3&1/2 hours of LOST retrospective content coz I just think its neat.

    • @KoolKeithProductions
      @KoolKeithProductions Рік тому +13

      "l remember sitting at my girl's house, Wednesday nights, that's the show...
      Watchin as that plane crashed, back in twenty zero fo...
      Now we ain't together tho, ppl seem to come and go...
      But Lost is like my CONSTANT, sounds a little strange, l know...
      As a grow and change, alot of things come on that tv screen...
      But other shows don't matter tho, the island isn't done with me...
      Damn even thinking bout the end has got ya boy depressed, Lost I'm gonna miss you, got those numbers tattooed on my chest...."

    • @John-Doe-Yo
      @John-Doe-Yo Рік тому +2

      ​@@KoolKeithProductions???

    • @KoolKeithProductions
      @KoolKeithProductions Рік тому +10

      @@John-Doe-Yo
      "l remember sitting at my girl's house, Wednesday nights, that's the show...
      Watchin as that plane crashed, back in twenty zero fo...
      Now we ain't together tho, ppl seem to come and go...
      But Lost is like my CONSTANT, sounds a little strange, l know...
      As a grow and change, alot of things come on that tv screen...
      But other shows don't matter tho, the island isn't done with me...
      Damn even thinking bout the end has got ya boy depressed, Lost I'm gonna miss you, got those numbers tattooed on my chest...."

    • @DaDualityofMan
      @DaDualityofMan Рік тому +10

      Honestly, I was in shambles when I was watching the 6-hour video and got to the point where I realized that it wasn't gonna be the full retrospective, it's like "Damn, I don't want to waste this much time on this, but I'm too invested!" which is what I imagine most Lost viewers felt at the time(I was a kid so I had all the time in the world back then)

    • @KoolKeithProductions
      @KoolKeithProductions Рік тому +3

      @@DaDualityofMan 🥺

  • @LynnHermione
    @LynnHermione Рік тому +144

    I love the "who are you" because it shows the dead people are real, not an hallucination. Michael can't hallucinate a man he's never met.

    • @The_Dinosaur_Heretic
      @The_Dinosaur_Heretic 29 днів тому +2

      Well yeah, The Man in Black/smoke monster has the capacity to take the face of dead people. It’s used Christian, Yemi, and John as avatars throughout the show

  • @barleezyfbaby
    @barleezyfbaby Рік тому +1337

    I’ve been waiting so long for this one, bruh. Thank you for feeding my never ending craving for Lost content

    • @Djnightmare14
      @Djnightmare14 Рік тому +15

      This is like Christmas morning. All the way back arguing with Cody on the lost fansites, I fell like billiam really put me back into 2007

    • @gtageek86
      @gtageek86 Рік тому +4

      I don't even remember the show. Or really care for it. But Billiam has a snack for making me like His vids regardless of what they are about.

    • @Emidoki
      @Emidoki Рік тому +4

      Me too, I don't know why but I'm obsessed and it always makes my day.

    • @Altorin
      @Altorin Рік тому +2

      Omg me too

    • @Altorin
      @Altorin Рік тому +3

      ​@SB-NaFeTswe're not talking about Lost. We're talking about the third episode in this series of videos about Lost.

  • @Schemilix
    @Schemilix Рік тому +213

    So excited to watch this. I will say as a writer, something being foreshadowed doesn't mean it wasn't made up after the fact. Part of being a writer, especially if you already have one part committed and public before the next part, is knowing what you already wrote and finding ways to recontextualise it if you need the story to go a certain way. I also don't think it was made up entirely as it went along but some of the foreshadowing is bound to be recontextualising existing story beats. Which is a fine thing to do! It's one of my favourite parts of writing when I realise I left something on the table and I can pick it up later with new meaning.

    • @unoriginalusername4416
      @unoriginalusername4416 Рік тому +33

      Adventure Time was fantastic at doing this. Finn has a couple weird character traits early on, like a fear of the ocean and seeing a weird ghost lady that represents his repressed memories. But as the show continues they play off of these facts about him to determine that he was lost at sea as an infant, and that the ghost lady was a past life of his who died tragically.
      One of the weirder examples is there’s a scene in a very very early episode where Ice King claims “I didn’t steal [the crown], I made it. Made it with the magic that I stole!” Which once we get more context on his character and history as Simon seems like an inconsistency - he found the crown, and until then was unaware if magic really existed. But then way later it gets wrapped back up when we discover the crown’s actual origins - that it was made by an ancient wizard using stolen magic crystals, and part of the crown’s curse involves turning the wearer into some form of that guy, meaning that original scene gets recontextualized as Ice King was accessing those memories.

    • @JJJJJVVVVVLLLLL
      @JJJJJVVVVVLLLLL Рік тому +1

      retconning

    • @Schemilix
      @Schemilix Рік тому +4

      @@JJJJJVVVVVLLLLL Yep. I assume you're trying to gotcha me but never deviating from your plan is a) unrealistic and b) not making the most of what's available to you. Half the point of the writer's strike was because the companies were trying to stop paying writers for their last minute re-writes during filming. Your ideas change and you have to retrofit existing continuity to serve a newer, better idea. Long live the retcon.

    • @Schemilix
      @Schemilix Рік тому +2

      I think a lot of the aversion to retconning is this cult of canon that people have. People are absolutely obsessed with authorial intent and canon for no reason whatsoever.

    • @JJJJJVVVVVLLLLL
      @JJJJJVVVVVLLLLL Рік тому +1

      @@Schemilix no it’s just a word

  • @ethanwentzlaff
    @ethanwentzlaff Рік тому +375

    I’ve always believed that S4 was the strongest. The season length and writing was so tight and the flash forwards allowed for both the on island and off island stories to feel so so fresh.

    • @mocranks
      @mocranks Рік тому +25

      I enjoy the tightness of S4 and how they approach storytelling. But I would have loved for more backstory on the outrig characters.

    • @Unquestionable
      @Unquestionable Рік тому +6

      Hard agree. I love they played as much into the weirdness as they could as well, with so many crazy concepts being tackled at once from the scientific to the spiritual. In hindsight it's probably the series highlight for me as the possibilities were endless but also lead to how there was going to be no way to stick the landing and satisfy all the various plot ideas being introduced. Very much a double edge sword. I personally enjoyed the later seasons compared to the earlier ones (I'm not a huge fan of some of the forced survival drama) but the whole thing was a wild and entertaining trip.

    • @julialungan4722
      @julialungan4722 Рік тому

      ​@@AnywhereMiamican you argument your opinion or do you just want to be a dick?

    • @nordicrain
      @nordicrain Рік тому +13

      @@AnywhereMiami How can you say "by far" when S6 exists? I actually like the overall ending, but the season itself isn't the greatest. 4 is a masterpiece in comparison.

    • @SirBallsDeepOfHouseManthrust
      @SirBallsDeepOfHouseManthrust Рік тому +5

      God, I always thought season four was a shitshow.

  • @toric6005
    @toric6005 Рік тому +130

    It’s so crazy to see how many actors were in like every ABC show at that time. Bunches who were in this, Once Upon a Time, Ugly Betty, Grey’s Anatomy, and Scandal.

    • @Horcrux_maker
      @Horcrux_maker Рік тому +13

      At least four actors in Lost had been in Oz as well

    • @MillennialDiligence-sx8re
      @MillennialDiligence-sx8re 4 місяці тому +5

      Jacks wife went on to be Claire on Modern Family.

    • @slickm0uth
      @slickm0uth 3 місяці тому

      There was a show I watched not that long ago, I can't remember what it was now....but there were at least 4 lost characters in the show and I couldn't believe it. 😂
      Edit: possibly Sons of Anarchy? Yes, I think so.

  • @kremesauce
    @kremesauce Рік тому +174

    They should have done a plot with Jack learning how to be a pilot and instead they focused on how he got a tattoo. He literally mentions he tried to learn how to fly. An amazing opportunity to bring Lapidus into it.

    • @DaveDudes
      @DaveDudes Рік тому +14

      Holy shit that's a great point, never thought about that.

    • @joelpetersmedia
      @joelpetersmedia Рік тому +15

      Damn it, the idea of Lapidus coming into the plotline like that makes me so annoyed it didn't happen

    • @alim.9801
      @alim.9801 10 місяців тому +7

      Damn don't make me dislike the tattoo episode more 😭

  • @conordallaway7980
    @conordallaway7980 Рік тому +198

    Jorge Garcia was honestly the GoaT in this whole show, him and Dominic Monaghan, 2 of the honeatly best actors in the whole show.

    • @AeonKnigh432
      @AeonKnigh432 10 місяців тому +12

      There's a reason Hurly was so important to the ending of the show. Both his character and his actor were just so crucial to the series

    • @marcushankins8171
      @marcushankins8171 10 місяців тому +11

      @@AeonKnigh432he was always the soul of the group. And ended up the soul of the island.

    • @alim.9801
      @alim.9801 10 місяців тому +2

      I probably relate to Hurley the most. And also those two characters together?? Some of the best chemistry i think

  • @LSZambie
    @LSZambie Рік тому +270

    23:11 what I find interesting how the idea of the show “being made up as it went along” is that we have an example of a show that didn’t evolve as choices were made; How I Met Your Mother. And in the case of that show, it’s a huge detractor. Character growth and choices made over the course of all the other seasons are undone in the last 15 minutes. It’s infuriating

    • @Unquestionable
      @Unquestionable Рік тому +31

      Yeah Lost definitely suffered from some of the lack of planning (too many interesting ideas introduced, only a handful expanded upon) but it at least transitioned toward the ending somewhat naturally. Yeah I wasn't a huge fan of the decision to mostly ignore the scientific based mysteries in favor of going hard on the spiritual stuff but at least by the finale it felt related to all the build up.

    • @TacticusPrime
      @TacticusPrime Рік тому +47

      Good point. HIMYM is a particularly egregious example because they knew the entire time that they were at most parodying a prestige serialized show. Obviously the show was a make-as-many-episodes-as-possible romcom. The flashforwards and flashbacks and everything were... jokes. They were setting up and paying off comedy bits. I think the writers ultimately got high off their own supply. They started to believe their own hype about serialization, rather than actually assess how the show had evolved over the years since the pilot.

    • @XDarksoulX1129
      @XDarksoulX1129 Рік тому +7

      Why do you have to rile up the whole internet over this again. I just watch the fan made endings they're way better. Or even the official alternate

    • @aswiftshift5229
      @aswiftshift5229 Рік тому +16

      Guy just said something about a show calm down nobody's getting ruled up

    • @Dexiray
      @Dexiray Рік тому +1

      wrong

  • @ZackBurnsOG
    @ZackBurnsOG Рік тому +128

    I remember Heroes crashed during the writers strike, and it almost felt like Lost was clapping back at Heroes by tackling Time Travel when Heroes abandoned it, and made some of the most incredible stuff

    • @Silas_MN
      @Silas_MN Рік тому +15

      the first season of heroes is so good, man. so sad it crashed so hard after that

    • @ZackBurnsOG
      @ZackBurnsOG Рік тому +3

      @@Silas_MN I know right? It was so fantastic

    • @sirensongss
      @sirensongss Рік тому +2

      heroes s2 was shit before the strike happened

    • @okagron
      @okagron Рік тому +9

      @@sirensongssAnd the show remained shit after the writers strike. It's cleared the first season was a passion project, something the creator took a lot of time to fine tune to the most minute detail. And starting from season 2 it's cleared they had no clue what they were doing.

    • @ellipszilonq
      @ellipszilonq 11 місяців тому +5

      I need a Hero(es restrospective)

  • @beyondwx
    @beyondwx Рік тому +66

    Finally got through this. This is far and away my favorite installment of "Increasingly unhinged Florida Man talks about a cult TV show from 20 years ago." I just want to mention that (1) I miss the Rod Sterling bit (2) the briefcase B-plot in this installment is the best of the series. The increased production value and practical effects compared to prior installments really shines.

  • @MrZomaster1
    @MrZomaster1 Рік тому +12

    This series has become my Rome, I watch your videos on it at work over and over again. You’re commentary is amazing and being able to dissect the show like a book is so therapeutic to my ears. Thank you for spending your time on this and I hope you’re no longer burnt out 🙏

  • @weebtrashtvt6657
    @weebtrashtvt6657 Рік тому +82

    Almost 4 hours after editing! We dont say it enough Billy the lengths your go through to research your content, Thank you very much😢🎉❤

    • @SirBallsDeepOfHouseManthrust
      @SirBallsDeepOfHouseManthrust Рік тому +1

      I like the guy and it’s good entertainment, but how is watching a TV show and giving a summary of it research?

    • @shannonceleste5557
      @shannonceleste5557 Рік тому +1

      @SirBallsDeepOfHouseManthrust you clearly haven't watched his other Lost videos lmao
      Though imo we need to be giving Billiam's team their flowers also.

  • @crtchicanery9605
    @crtchicanery9605 Рік тому +37

    gotta say I was surprised and a little sad when you said part three would be covering the remainder of the show, but now that I've seen the final product, I like the direction you took. here's to three more three hour videos, cheers.

  • @GoodTimeMedia
    @GoodTimeMedia Рік тому +89

    this is my Super Bowl

  • @laurencamila9024
    @laurencamila9024 Рік тому +49

    Charlotte Staples Lewis is almost directly C.S. Lewis's name, Clive Staples Lewis, who wrote the chronicles of Narnia. I don't know enough about lost to draw any reasons for it, but I did notice it immediately

    • @Seomus
      @Seomus Рік тому +16

      She's trying to get back to "Narnia", the island, the magical place she remembers from her childhood. That's her character's motiviations.

  • @aworte3266
    @aworte3266 Рік тому +271

    Im just thinking about how convenient it was that someone packed a pregnancy test for their international flight. I know theres a lot of plot convenience but that's always stood out

    • @kuhpunkt
      @kuhpunkt Рік тому +15

      It was one of three attempts to signal the arrival of Widmore though.

    • @JDM-is-my-name
      @JDM-is-my-name Рік тому +49

      ​@karinalumen9722I have never heard of this practice, but I assume it's kind of the same (or mayhaps the exact opposite) as keeping a extra pad in case someone needs one :)
      It seems like a genuinely nice geature

    • @adminaccess9586
      @adminaccess9586 Рік тому +17

      Yeah i cant imagine anyone just having a pregnancy test in like a carry on bag 😂 like were they planning to check in an airplane bathroom?? Why? Who wants to do that in transit lol

    • @JJJJJVVVVVLLLLL
      @JJJJJVVVVVLLLLL Рік тому +16

      The airlines provide them for the stewardesses

    • @lunamax1214
      @lunamax1214 10 місяців тому +33

      So. . .when you're trying for a baby, you tend to have to track your ovulation and such in order to know when you've got the best chance at success. As such, you typically need many ovulation *and* pregnancy tests. (This is why you can find them for sale in bulk outside of medical supply stores/companies.) Given the nature of the modern world, it stands to reason in my mind that someone on that flight wanted to make sure they had at least one test with them in case their luggage got lost at the airport once they landed. (That's what I did when we were trying for our first kid and we had to travel.)

  • @Barber100Dr
    @Barber100Dr Рік тому +101

    58:33 this moment had me on the floor, the hopeful music getting cut of as everyone just gets completely BODIED by the huge wave, then there’s the quick shot of Billiam resurfacing as it smash cuts to the chapter title, it’s great I love it

  • @nathanjohnson6910
    @nathanjohnson6910 Рік тому +112

    Ah the unhappiness of my childhood is rushing back to me while watching this series. Fantastic work mate, keep it rolling.

  • @nickymo
    @nickymo Рік тому +50

    These are the definitive Lost breakdown/analyses on youtube, nothing even comes close. Really appreciate your hard work!

  • @Film-Roller
    @Film-Roller Рік тому +23

    This series you've made is pure 2000's euphoria. I love it so dearly and you should be proud of how well this is produced. It's something I can revisit as legitimately as the show LOST itself. Keepin' dis shit on in the background for a LOOOOOOOOONG time (after I watch it intently several times).

  • @kattekaren
    @kattekaren Рік тому +16

    I haven't watched any lost analysis before because I was afraid that people would just be shitting all over my favorite show. I'm so glad you're as fascinated with the show as I am. It's not perfect, for sure, but it's very close to my heart and I love it, flaws and all. Can't wait for the last video

  • @saladbarjoe
    @saladbarjoe Рік тому +56

    Thank you so much for this. Lost will always be a huge touchstone in my life. I remember having watch parties at college and hours wasted theorizing on internet forums. My long distance partner (who I'm still with) would call me after every episode 😂 it really redefined what tv could be, plenty of problems and jank AF at points, but so amazing and outside the box, nothing compares

    • @Unquestionable
      @Unquestionable Рік тому +1

      Yeah it very much was a major part of my time in college as well. Had a former friend push me hard into watching it and when I finally did ended up dragging my brother into the series too. All the online discussions were great even if they got heated. My grandfather and I would bond over theories when I would visit, sadly he passed away literally during the season 4 finale so it's a weird bittersweet memory for me.

    • @KaylaMarie_
      @KaylaMarie_ Рік тому +1

      We will never have a other lost. Im glad i got to experience it in real time

    • @okagron
      @okagron Рік тому

      Uh, what? Plenty of shows before and after that are far better than Lost. The Sopranos, Oz, Breaking Bad and many others.

    • @saladbarjoe
      @saladbarjoe Рік тому +1

      @@Unquestionable I'm really sorry you lost your Grandpa during that time, but i bet he'd be pretty proud you saw it through to the end and kept up your theorizing even to this day. {my gramps was very much the same, but for X-Files}

  • @ninaxwings
    @ninaxwings Рік тому +140

    So glad someone is doing a detailed retrospective. My 18-year-old self was so deeply offended by Alex’s death that I rewrote season 5 with her as the protagonist 😂

    • @JJJJJVVVVVLLLLL
      @JJJJJVVVVVLLLLL Рік тому +2

      how did you feel when she came back in s6?

    • @ninaxwings
      @ninaxwings Рік тому +34

      @@JJJJJVVVVVLLLLL it was nice to see her again and all but I always felt that she could have been so much more than a plot device to make the audience feel sympathy for Ben. The last thing I wanted for him was a happy ending. I wanted to see Jacob snub Ben in favor of her as the others leader (since Locke dies) in my fic, I kept her alive and sent her to live in the 70s. By the end of the story, she’s a hardened badass that’s fully integrated with my version of the a-team. There were a lot of wasted characters in lost so I rewrote it the way I wanted it to go down

    • @AgentSteffi
      @AgentSteffi 4 місяці тому +4

      ​@@ninaxwings as a teen I didn't really know fanfics were a thing (maybe a little language barrier thing), but if I had, Alex death would have been the thing that drove me to fanfiction!

    • @ninaxwings
      @ninaxwings 4 місяці тому +2

      @@AgentSteffi OMG, thank you! With the way they wrote her character I thought she was being set up to be a major player in the final seasons I think the writers missed a great opportunity with her

  • @The_Ghost_Gaming
    @The_Ghost_Gaming Рік тому +17

    Your first lost video got me hooked on the show, ended up watching it with my dad and getting him hooked as well. It's an experience I'll never forget. One of my favorite shows of all time now.

  • @graceruark1086
    @graceruark1086 Рік тому +69

    It's wild to hear you say that you've been working on this for 3 years bc that's hard to fathom but yeah so far, this series spans 12 hours, 46 minutes, and 23 seconds
    (I can only imagine how fried editing all of this must have made you, rip and thank you for your sacrifice for our entertainment)

    • @Girly_Plop
      @Girly_Plop 10 місяців тому

      I think with the latest vid, we’re at 18 or 19 hours now!!

    • @Camo1177
      @Camo1177 Місяць тому +1

      Following up that after the final part, the whole series ends up over 24 hours.

  • @Ty-ri7dy
    @Ty-ri7dy Рік тому +82

    Hell yes it was INSANE. From start to finish. I'm on my second re-watch, this time with my kids. It's amazing TV. I can't believe this show got made, and I am so glad that it did.

    • @Taj_Rahine
      @Taj_Rahine Рік тому +2

      Nice, I hope your kids are enjoying it

  • @benjaminallen3493
    @benjaminallen3493 Рік тому +16

    I can’t even tell you how excited I was when this came out. I legit jumped out my seat and ran around my couch for 5 minutes. I am more than a die hard fan of LOST, I have seen all 121 episodes 9 times, and I am so sad that hardly anyone talks about it. Thank you so much for doing this, you just earned a subscriber.

    • @kuhpunkt
      @kuhpunkt Рік тому +2

      If you need more, I got something on my channel too.

  • @Thorum
    @Thorum Рік тому +13

    WE HAVE TO GO BACK!!
    Thanks for the shoutout Billiam!

  • @philtkaswahl2124
    @philtkaswahl2124 Рік тому +91

    Imagine if this show had come out ten years later from 2014 to 2020, when sharing and overanalyzing scenes and freeze frames was not only more obsessive but was basically firmly established online practice for the fandoms of ongoing series than what had existed from the 2004 to 2010 period the show actually aired in. And even back then the sharing and speculation was already pretty feverish.

    • @Silas_MN
      @Silas_MN Рік тому +16

      tbh, that kind of obsessive fan culture goes back to Lost. without this show, that fan behavior you’re describing wouldn’t have come together the same way

    • @philtkaswahl2124
      @philtkaswahl2124 Рік тому

      @@Silas_MN Not exactly. The advent of VCRs with their (clunky when you want to stop and go back to exact points, but you got where you wanted with a little fiddling) pausing saw the rise of fan communities recording and picking out details they'd missed watching episodes of shows they liked air, and many 90s fan communities were sharing these with each other.
      They were just very obscure and niche due to how relatively few people were online then. Passed around via fan publications and fan meets, in addition to a few webpages and Usenet or other similar early discussion systems. Lost benefited from being chock full of freeze-frame detail when bandwidth had improved and distribution widespread enough for the internet to become much more mainstream, but that fan behavior existed well beforehand. They just became more obsessive and common later on.

    • @bishielurfer
      @bishielurfer Рік тому +5

      ​@@Silas_MNI disagree. That kind of stuff had already been seen, but LOST came out at a time where both media and how we used the internet were transition. I think that kind of fan obsession has always been around to some degree and would have evolved in a similar way regardless.

  • @Scootypuffxjr
    @Scootypuffxjr 11 місяців тому +4

    I remember fondly how I binged the first part of this deep dive series of yours when I was pregnant and stuck at home all day. Now I’m still watching while I’m taking care of my toddler 😆

  • @explainingpolitics
    @explainingpolitics Рік тому +7

    Desmond was my favorite character from the first time I laid eyes on him. I was 12 watching the show as it first aired - and I dont know why I liked Desmond so much, but his episode "The Constant" immediately became my favorite when it aired. His character, his story, and this episode were just so important to my experience of the show.

  • @morela58
    @morela58 Рік тому +7

    just finished watching lost (for the first time) and now im binging all of your videos. its so interesting to learn about all of the behind the scenes and also about yours perspective, cause youve loved this show for many years. its especially interesting regarding last 4 seasons because i really didnt enjoy them, yet you make me look at them from a different angle and i start to appreciate some things about them. cant wait for the last part!

    • @kuhpunkt
      @kuhpunkt Рік тому

      I don't want to hijack Billiam's video to just promote my stuff, but if you want more behind the scenes stuff about the beginning, I got a video series on my channel.

  • @richardnelson26
    @richardnelson26 9 днів тому +1

    Used to wonder who would watch such a long ass vid like this until I was sick today. And this really helped the time pass by. Thanks

  • @elricmon2099
    @elricmon2099 Рік тому +28

    This is still my favourite show of all time. Nothing beats the theorycrafting between seasons. So many great memories...

  • @xSnoozi
    @xSnoozi 10 місяців тому +1

    This is probably my favourite retrospective series on UA-cam. Can't Wait for the next one!

  • @battelangel
    @battelangel Рік тому +3

    Your first 2 videos made me start watching the show again for a third time and realize that it still is an awesome show.
    I was also reminded about how my wive started watching it with me on my second time through and how she couldn't get enough of it.
    Thanks for doing this.

  • @WordsHere
    @WordsHere Рік тому +32

    I actually have a theory that the wheel wasn't frozen originally. There's not really anything to back this up, but something about the set dressing makes me think it was a place built similar to the temple by people from long ago, but maybe around the wheel which already had been there. But I somehow just don't see that happening in this weird frozen place. Instead, I wonder if the Dharma Initiative didn't freeze it in place to stop the island from moving through time and space. Like if it maybe turned entirely on its own once upon a time or at least was more easily turned. But then they got to the island and one of their first tasks was to do something to stop that wheel and their solution was to literally build a big refrigerator to freeze it. Random weird thought to throw into the comments down here.

    • @syntheticat-3
      @syntheticat-3 Рік тому +4

      It can double as a polar bear enclosure this way 👍

    • @M4ke4l
      @M4ke4l Рік тому +6

      I will assume you watched the whole show, if not then stops here as the next part is about season 5:
      It can't be that because Dharma is already well settled when they discover the existence of the wheel.
      They find out about it in the first scene of season 5 wich happens in 1977 (just before the swan incident) and we know the Dharma initiative got to the island before 1974.

  • @crimson_auror
    @crimson_auror Рік тому +103

    This show really just has that special something that makes you love all the characters and keeps you invested through all the insane twists and turns. No show has ever come close.

    • @williamhornabrook8081
      @williamhornabrook8081 Рік тому +2

      All the characters? Including Nikki and Paulo?

    • @canaldecasta
      @canaldecasta Рік тому +3

      And that is exactly why when it all goes south it hurts even more :)

    • @WeebishSwed
      @WeebishSwed Рік тому +3

      @@williamhornabrook8081 Honestly, a reference to them later on makes me love them.

    • @cl0ckw0rker
      @cl0ckw0rker Рік тому +1

      Yeah, it's called melodrama. It's a soap opera with a bunch of dumb sci-fi crap pasted over top.

    • @KoolKeithProductions
      @KoolKeithProductions Рік тому +4

      ​@@canaldecastait never "goes south"

  • @sopranophantomista
    @sopranophantomista 10 місяців тому +1

    The amount of times I've watched this just in the background of of whatever I'm doing on the computer, or, more seriously, a way to distract myself when my anxiety and panic rises. Your passion and enthusiasm and genuine want to share your excitement about this show is what makes this series so good. Thank you for all your effort and time and everything else you've put into this retrospective. I'm not even a LOST fan, but if you can keep my attention about a show I've never seen, there's gotta be something in what I'm watching that compels me to watch it again and again. So thanks.

  • @stigolumpy
    @stigolumpy Рік тому +38

    Yes Billiam! You know you can put out a 3-4 hour video on LOST because the watchers will all be people who absolutely hate themselves and have therefore watched LOST several times at least all. the. way. through!
    I count myself as one of those insane people..

    • @luc_is_here
      @luc_is_here Рік тому +4

      I haven't seen a single episode of LOST... not sure if that makes me more or less insane for watching these.

    • @orimengu
      @orimengu Рік тому +1

      ​@@luc_is_heresame it's so hard to keep up with what the hell is going on

    • @oo4758
      @oo4758 Рік тому +2

      ​@@luc_is_hereyou gotta watch Mike's mic season 1 recap then

    • @oo4758
      @oo4758 Рік тому +1

      ​@@orimenguyou too lol

    • @orimengu
      @orimengu Рік тому

      @@oo4758 already did? Also watched Billiam's recap, doesn't make it any easier to understand lmao

  • @Yuoaman
    @Yuoaman Рік тому +4

    You keep knocking these Lost videos out of the park, dude! You're really bringing me back to being a teenager and being obsessed with this show, I definitely need to give it a rewatch after your final video to see if I'm able to pick up more with my grown adult brain that my younger self just skimmed past.

  • @nattdaniel
    @nattdaniel Рік тому +9

    My mental health today is just not it, so I'm really glad you posted a new Lost video! It's a wonderful distraction from a meh day

    • @camelopardalis84
      @camelopardalis84 Рік тому +1

      Misread this as "dental health day". Hope that helps.

    • @darkninjafirefox
      @darkninjafirefox Рік тому +2

      Hope things get kinder for you, take care out there

    • @vampchic16
      @vampchic16 2 місяці тому

      I hope you're having a better day today you deserve happiness

  • @smooveayy
    @smooveayy Рік тому +4

    I literally binged both your LOST videos yesterday (for the fifth time), didn't expect this to pop up so soon. Thank you Billiam!!!

  • @AngeloNear1
    @AngeloNear1 Рік тому +23

    I don't know how Billiam continues to get me to happily watch so many hours of content about a show I've never even seen. Somehow he did it again and now I can't wait for the final part!

    • @camelopardalis84
      @camelopardalis84 Рік тому +2

      Have you considered watching the show before Billiam's last LOST video comes out?

  • @LadyNuk699
    @LadyNuk699 Рік тому +2

    I’ve been making people watch Lost at work and telling them “fun facts” from your videos. Thank you for small talk content for my job.

  • @bookimatt
    @bookimatt Рік тому +7

    THE RETURN! Welcome back and thank you for your hard work!

  • @UnidentifiedAngelfly
    @UnidentifiedAngelfly 4 місяці тому +2

    This really takes me back to those nights where my family would gather around and watch Lost. We would sit around and theorize on what was going to happen and process what had just happened. Good times

  • @tanner4280
    @tanner4280 Рік тому +9

    The underwater sequence at 1:57:49 is maybe the best underwater skit I’ve ever seen on UA-cam. You’ve outdone yourself!

  • @MysteryMii
    @MysteryMii 9 місяців тому +2

    Kinda crazy to see Billiam explain the streaming situation for Lost as 2 months after this video came out, Disney signed a deal with Netflix to license a number of shows, including Lost, to Netflix on a non-exclusive basis (meaning that it’ll be on Netflix, Hulu/Disney+, and Freevee at the same time).

  • @wonkertot
    @wonkertot Рік тому +6

    I was in the military when you started this series and I am no longer in the military. That s*** is wild.

  • @angiekelley9038
    @angiekelley9038 5 місяців тому +1

    I'm really happy you talked about the writer's strike in detail. When I started watching Lost I was 9 years old and watching it on Netflix maybe four years after it ended. I've only ever watched Lost on streaming platforms. It's so interesting to know that the creators of Lost knew how tv consumption would change.

  • @mahatmarandy5977
    @mahatmarandy5977 Рік тому +4

    I really appreciate you explaining the mechanics and reasons for both strikes. Most people don’t get that, and it’s really important

  • @mstmompj
    @mstmompj 3 місяці тому +1

    Watching this video brought me back to the days where after new episode of the show I'd be reading Lostpedia entries, listening to Jorge Garcia's podcast, and hanging around the TWoP forum. Good times.

  • @-MrFozzy-
    @-MrFozzy- Рік тому +4

    I hope you allow yourself to feel extremely proud of the videos you’ve made for Lost. I hope you think you’ve done a great job on them. It was really, REALLY good and I loved every minute of them!

  • @buneboo
    @buneboo 9 місяців тому +1

    10/10 would love to experience the shark scene again i lost it so bad when you did the punch. i love your lost series so much

  • @emmanolan1639
    @emmanolan1639 Рік тому +7

    its been 86 years... but its worth the wait!!

  • @ninjapancake9
    @ninjapancake9 Рік тому +2

    Billiam, my guy, thank you for being one of the few retrospective channels that puts just as much, if not more, analysis into your videos as you do recapping shows. Lost was the show that ignited speculation at my family’s dinners and awakened my media literacy and analytical abilities, so this series has been incredibly nostalgic and provides new interpretations. You and Quentin are probably the only Recap channels that really feel transformative and insightful instead of a wiki audio book. Love your content and love you brother, be easy.

  • @AleZentenoBlog
    @AleZentenoBlog Рік тому +7

    I literally screamed when this showed up in my feed!!! Oddly, one of my must awaited videos and I wasn’t even a big Lost fan😅 Cheers from México!

  • @steadylemon
    @steadylemon Рік тому +3

    Thats crazy, I legit just finished watching the Lost part 2 video yesterday. Thank you papa billiam

  • @Nagarath16
    @Nagarath16 Рік тому +26

    Has it been year already? Must be time for another Billiam's Lost specials! HURRAY!
    Still loving these, because I'm one of those who missed the train when comes to Lost. I knew of it and saw some, but when I was old enough to seek for the series (as someone outside USA) - it was kinda too late to catch up everything. Now I can finally know everything what I was interested in!

    • @DaveDudes
      @DaveDudes Рік тому

      It's still very worth watching the actual show, it's super binge worthy

  • @f_mili_r
    @f_mili_r Рік тому +16

    Been looking forward to this one for a while, love to see it finally released from the shackles of copyright :) S4 is easily my favorite of the series, and still goes so hard for me upon rewatch. The latter half of the series has so much to offer when it comes to worldbuilding, setup, and payoff.
    The pair of Seasons 4 and 5 make for such a striking story told from both perspectives of the ones who left and the ones who didn’t. (S5 onward) Ji Yeon and Cabin Fever come to mind with how strongly they were contextualized by the end of season 5. Ji Yeon’s structure being a mix of flash forward/flashback hinting at Sun and Jin’s separation via time and space was wild to me. Cabin Fever’s flashbacks were a great setup for learning that John essentially created the *idea* of himself among the Others when he was flashed to the 50s, and we even see how Jack can be partially credited for pushing his legend given how he advocated for him to Richard (after Sawyer also sorta did a few years before that). Painfully ironic considering how the attitudes *end up* when they first arrive there in 2004.
    As great as the fifth season is, I’m especially excited for your take on the final season. It was a bold move for what it was, but it ended up resonating with me quite a damn lot, and spoke beautifully to the show’s themes on individual perspective and connections. Excited for the next part!

    • @billiam
      @billiam  Рік тому +3

      Its some of my favorite parts of LOST!

    • @f_mili_r
      @f_mili_r Рік тому +2

      @@billiam Right there with you! Knowing the show’s reputation but not knowing the details when I first watched it, I heard someone say that everything went downhill after S3. I was preparing myself for the worst, but it just ended up getting better and better.

  • @Janae.citizenofearth
    @Janae.citizenofearth Рік тому +24

    Billiam, you are amazing. I’ve been anticipating this video for a while now and you did not disappoint!! Thanks for being so awesome 💜

  • @xosrakateox
    @xosrakateox 6 місяців тому +1

    Even just your recap of it brought me back to the emotions of "The Constant". It really might be the best episode 😭

  • @DrewTrox
    @DrewTrox Рік тому +10

    I was hoping the ghosts were recordings of people made by the island. The electromagnetic island is like a blank tape and the longer you are there the more that gets recorded.

  • @emilyfletcher6060
    @emilyfletcher6060 5 місяців тому +1

    i WOULD LIVE FOR AN EPISODE BY EPISODE BREAKDOWN FOR THE ENTIRE SERIES! Thanks for these vids though, they're incredible! Youre so good at this!

  • @Leah-xu2fd
    @Leah-xu2fd Рік тому +13

    This was a really fantastic addition to your Lost series. I have enjoyed all of your other long videos. I am a strange person who likes 9+ hour videos so this series has been a dream. Lots of love for the effort you do for these. Lots of appreciation for all your work!
    Will you do Fringe next? It seriously is the BEST show out there on so many levels that I feel that you'd have impactful analysis of how it does Lost and X-Files with a family drama at its core justice. Do Fringe eventually is all that I am saying. Great job again!

    • @BreMue
      @BreMue Рік тому

      Omg seconding Fringe - that and lost were my favorites

  • @Lee0018
    @Lee0018 Рік тому +4

    This series has been so captivating. Thank you for this retrospective. I was obsessed with LOST when it was out lol. I can’t wait for the next video!

  • @lastflunky
    @lastflunky Рік тому +9

    When I was a kid, I would watch random Lost episodes with my older sisters. I was a little losened on a lot of Lost's plot details but was engaged nonetheless. With little context the "Jin is dead" episode hit hard.
    Since you are looking at supplementary Lost material, can you look at Lost Parody by The Fine Bros. They deleted the videos when they became a reaction channel but it has been reuploaded. It really was The Fine Bros making fun of Lost with their large collection of action figures.

  • @xtcbeats3654
    @xtcbeats3654 10 місяців тому +1

    U better make this last lost video asap these videos r some of the best content on UA-cam great show and ur perspective makes it even better ly billiam

  • @ogromm90
    @ogromm90 Рік тому +4

    Season 4 was my favorite. Great video, it's nice having such an indepth look back at the show

  • @MxAmericanPi
    @MxAmericanPi Рік тому +1

    I have never watched Lost or any related media. I have not seen any of the other videos in this series. I am 1hr and 7 minutes in and I understand even less about the show than when I started.
    Fantastic video, 10/10 (/gen)

  • @nickfromanotherworld
    @nickfromanotherworld Рік тому +4

    I've never seen any of Lost, but I enjoy these videos so much and have watches them so many times

  • @bendrake9741
    @bendrake9741 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for helping me understand the Lil B lyric "Don't red shirt me, this is lil Berkeley" from Always Been Alone Band Freestyle.

  • @henryaggerate9669
    @henryaggerate9669 Рік тому +7

    Season 4 is my second favorite, but I think 5 is peak Lost. Beyond the cool time travel shenanigans, that season drives the theme of fate vs free will better than all the others. There’s such strong consequentialism, and cause and effect. The characters make significant decisions that have tremendous ramifications but because of the stable time loop, they are following their “destiny”. They cause The Incident, but not knowingly but through their actions, which they were always meant to do.

  • @ArtsyFoxo
    @ArtsyFoxo Рік тому +1

    I am so happy you have created these sets of videos. You are the 100% definitive source for everything regarding the show and it is always PHENOMENAL

  • @maurogrisi8469
    @maurogrisi8469 Рік тому +12

    Omg!! Had been waiting for this video for sooo long!! I love lost so much. BTW, those cephalopod sketches in the back are amazing!! One of my fav biologists and ilustrators is Ernst Haeckl 😍😍 so glad to see more people know of his work and art.

  • @DaddyGamerReviews
    @DaddyGamerReviews Рік тому +2

    Incredible, love watching people talk about their passions and this entire series of videos has been a joy to take in. Well done on this momentous achievement in content creation!

  • @Kroggnagch
    @Kroggnagch Рік тому +3

    Desmond’s and Penny’s phone call makes me cry... this show makes me cry many times... I love it.

  • @chinchilla57
    @chinchilla57 Рік тому +1

    I remember watching the constant and thinking “wow this show is getting better and better”. Love the video!

  • @thats4thebirds
    @thats4thebirds Рік тому +7

    Shouts out to the editor! They’re clearly having a lot of fun-THURSDAY!

    • @billiam
      @billiam  Рік тому +3

      We all had a lot of fun on this one!

  • @juliobernal3606
    @juliobernal3606 Рік тому +2

    I recently got into your channel, loved the first two lost videos and got super bummed that you hadn't released a third yet. I had lost hope of a third and saw this rn. I thought I was dreaming. Thank you for this.

  • @darthmaule
    @darthmaule Рік тому +5

    i love reading the parallels with Desmond and Billy Pilgrim of slaughterhouse five. "unstuck in time". not sure if it was on purpose but its a beautiful nod to Kurt Vonnegut.

    • @kuhpunkt
      @kuhpunkt Рік тому +1

      It was absolutely intentional. They even namedrop Vonnegut.

  • @MrOSUrocker
    @MrOSUrocker Рік тому +2

    Dude, the constant is so damn good. This season is one of my all time favs, just because it's where we get some heavy sci-fi advancement in the plot

  • @turntapeover5749
    @turntapeover5749 Рік тому +8

    I love that scene in the Orchid when John and Ben are in the Orchid and Ben sits down John to watch an educational video and then John tells him: "...but you're in all the metal." And Ben just gives him a sarcastic look saying "You don't say!" 😂

  • @Hubabuba258
    @Hubabuba258 Рік тому +2

    I watched your Lost videos like maybe a year ago, but recently I started watching the series for like the fifth time, this time introducing it to my girlfriend who never had the chance to watch it, so I rewatched your videos for some extra juicy facts about the show to spill. We just finished season four, it's already one of the favorite series oat and there you go... you dropped another video. You are a god man, certified deity.

  • @Dan55888
    @Dan55888 Рік тому +3

    3 and a half hours and I sat down/laid down and watched it all.
    This guy makes cinema

  • @Snarkydragon
    @Snarkydragon Рік тому +1

    Yesss, so worth the wait!
    Thank you, Billiam, for getting me to finally finish the show so I'd be ready for the review of the parts I hadn't seen, and for validating all the Lost feelings I have now that I've finished it.

  • @tollutollu
    @tollutollu Рік тому +7

    Ah yes, another lost video by billiam -- this is my shit. I've watched the others all the way through. didn't watch lost when it was airing, but did watch it through entirely about a decade ago or so, and was very obsessed for a while. This takes me back to that :)
    I love the way LOST felt early on, before a lot of the mysteries were solved. Super cool vibe, right? The hatch, the island, the monster, the others, it really gave you a feeling of being on the cusp of figuring it all out for a while.

  • @pablosonic892
    @pablosonic892 Рік тому +1

    We don't deserve you. But, I'm so glad we have you. It's like the island summoned you and willed you into existence. You are totally Scooby Dooin' the sh*t out of this masterpiece theatre of content and putting your 'dent into the universe.' Thank you, good sir.

  • @katyesyes
    @katyesyes Рік тому +11

    I like the video but something I also caught in the last video, is that there are a lot of redundancies and repetition(the writers strike gets introduced like 3 times before it gets talked about, reiterating how the flash forwards change the show, etc), I feel like the script could have been a bit tighter, even if it meant the video would have been shorter.